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[01:20:01] <Patrickdk> kdavyd, tsoome: http://www.mail-archive.com/zfs-discuss at opensolaris dot org/msg35190.html
[01:20:07] <Patrickdk> that is a much much simpler way :)
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[01:20:53] <tsoome> cool:)
[01:22:06] <Patrickdk> still, not very fast though
[01:22:06] <kdavyd> That works too, but isn't as l33t
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[02:10:55] <DanaG> say, is it normal for /etc/nsswitch.conf to be empty?
[02:11:03] <DanaG> I can "dig" for names, but yet, I can't ping by names.
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[02:13:49] <alanc> no
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[02:15:49] <DanaG> alanc: would you mind pastebin'ing your nsswitch.conf?
[02:16:07] <DanaG> or wait... maybe I can restore it from a zfs snapshot.
[02:16:36] <alanc> mine looks mostly like /etc/nsswitch.nis - though I bet yours is closer to /etc/nsswitch.dns
[02:16:53] <alanc> lots of samples in /etc/nsswitch.* to choose from
[02:17:11] <alanc> and of course, if nwam is active, then it generates them on the fly
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[02:17:50] <DanaG> ah, nwam should've been active, but seems to be broken.
[02:18:16] <DanaG> At least, when I rebooted, I had no network connectivity. Had to use my Remote Access Card to log in out-of-band.
[02:19:22] <DanaG> oh, wait, it's not enabled...
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[02:20:15] <DanaG> nwamadm told me that.
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[02:23:35] <DanaG> now, how would I go about making nfs bind to only one interface?
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[06:22:21] <DanaG> say, how do I persistently give my user "vbox" read-write access to /dev/rdsk/c2t3... and c2t5... ?
[06:22:27] <DanaG> Just doing chmod isn't persistent.
[06:26:13] <ocherno> DanaG: why vbox needs access to raw disk?
[06:26:24] <DanaG> For a rawdisk VM, of course.
[06:26:33] <DanaG> Running a VM that's installed on a separate drive.
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[06:27:53] <ocherno> so you are exposing raw disk from host to the guest?
[06:28:05] <DanaG> Yeah.
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[06:30:37] <ocherno> in my case, /dev/rdsk/* are just links to the physical dev with 777 permissions
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[06:31:00] <DanaG> well, I've also tried following the links, and that didn't help.
[06:31:15] <DanaG> It'll be effective until I reboot, but then goes back to being owned by ME, of all users.
[06:31:22] <DanaG> Not root, but the user "dana". Beats me why.
[06:31:42] <DanaG> or rather, one of the targets becomes owned by root:sys, the other by dana:staff
[06:32:25] <Triskelios> because the console user has access to removable devices
[06:34:17] <DanaG> Does it expose the AHCI ports as removable? And why does that apply to only port 5, but not port 3?
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[06:38:40] <Triskelios> DanaG: it applies to devices, not ports
[06:40:56] <DanaG> How very odd, I tweaked it to be 664 for root:sys, and added vbox to "sys".
[06:41:19] <DanaG> So now, port 3 is 664 root:sys, but port 5 is 644, root:root.
[06:41:36] <Triskelios> it's not a port!
[06:42:08] <Triskelios> if you plugged that device into any other port it would have the same permissions
[06:42:30] <DanaG> Oh, does it use UUIDs? Drive serial numbers?
[06:42:44] <Triskelios> no, just their reported attributes
[06:42:48] <DanaG> If I plug the drive from "target 5" into port 3... won't it then be "target 3"?
[06:42:56] <Triskelios> if they contain removable media, or are portable
[06:43:52] <DanaG> Well, it's AHCI SATA, which seems to map linearly to ports. Like, target 0 in OI is Port 1 in BIOS, and target 5 in OI is port 6 in BIOS.
[06:44:18] <Triskelios> DanaG: there is a _disk_ after the target
[06:44:21] <DanaG> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 52 2012-01-29 10:06 c2t3d0s9 -> ../../devices/pci@0,0/pci103c,1609@11/disk@3,0:j,raw
[06:44:21] <DanaG> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 52 2012-01-30 00:41 c2t5d0p0 -> ../../devices/pci@0,0/pci103c,1609@11/disk@5,0:q,raw
[06:44:28] <Triskelios> we address disks, not targets
[06:45:06] <DanaG> What is the "target"? Some fictitious entity? Or perhaps the "host" end of the channel?
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[06:46:05] <Triskelios> it maps to the latter, it's a way to differentiate channels on the same controller
[06:46:17] <DanaG> ah.
[06:46:34] <DanaG> Reminds me of when I tried two PATA drives on a supposedly single-device PATA-to-USB bridge.
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[06:46:36] <Triskelios> a SCSI endpoint is a single target
[06:46:54] <DanaG> Showed up as two LUNs on one USB mass storage device in Linux... but Windows never comprehended the second LUN.
[06:48:25] <DanaG> ah, I'd edited "ahci" in /etc/minor_perm, but now I'm trying "sd".
[06:49:03] <Triskelios> uh, you probably want logindevperm if the device is owned by you
[06:49:07] <Triskelios> at least, currently
[06:49:29] <DanaG> The "vbox" user is running headlessly.
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[06:49:52] <DanaG> I wish somebody would make a headless vbox that spawns a real X server, so you can vRDE and get 3D.
[06:50:00] <DanaG> Or rather, some script that starts it on an X server.
[06:50:46] <Triskelios> you can create an X session that just runs vbox pretty easily...
[06:51:04] <DanaG> I'll need to disable my remote access card and get back my radeon, though.
[06:51:37] <DanaG> okay, so after editing sd, disk@3 is still rw-rw---- root sys, but disk@5 is r-------- root:root
[06:51:39] <Triskelios> anyway, logindevperm overrides the default ownership for devices that would be considered useful for a local user (removable storage devices, USB devices, and audio)
[06:53:39] <DanaG> hmm, so is that why my USB sound card is giving the headless "vbox" access denied?
[06:54:31] <Triskelios> probably
[06:55:18] <DanaG> /dev/vt/console_user 0400 /dev/removable-media/rdsk/* # removable media -- includes c2t5, but not c2t3, that must be what's going on.
[06:56:03] <DanaG> so I just have to figure out what a headless user is logging in as.
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[06:56:25] <Triskelios> er, just drop that from logindevperm
[06:56:57] <Triskelios> unless you want another user to try fighting with vbox over devices
[06:57:25] <Triskelios> a headless user is not a local login
[06:59:56] <DanaG> what's weird is that after reboot, nobody's logged in... so nobody should be claiming it.
[07:00:02] <DanaG> Unless gdm runs as root, or such.....
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[07:04:45] <DanaG> edited logindevperm... no change.
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[07:12:40] <DanaG> ah, autologin as vbox... that's a damn good idea.
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[08:01:37] <Garo_> Hi. I'm exporting a tank from openindiana 151a into a debian linux via nfs. For some reason all files and directories have some kind of big integer as their owners and groups, like "-rw-r--r-- 1 4294967294 4294967294 0 Jan 25 16:05 foo". Any idea what's wrong?
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[08:16:00] <ocherno> solaris user that does not exist on Linux.... why don't you use rsync?
[08:16:13] <ocherno> NFS is not the best option for migration...
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[08:23:33] <Garo_> I'm sorry. I meant by "exporting" that I share a directory from my openindiana host into the linux host for general usage (plain and simple nfs)
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[08:27:35] <Agnar> Garo_: the usernames and uids don't match between nfs server and client
[08:30:08] <Garo_> ok. so I first found about that I would need to enable NEED_IDMAPD=yes on my linux side. This changed the 4294967294 into nobody, which is a progress. I only need that the permissions, owners and groups would work at the linux side and I don't care how they're shown at the openindiana side. Do I still have to create and match all the linux users and groups onto the openindiana side?
[08:30:33] <Garo_> then I found out something about setting /etc/defaultdomain, but the blog didn't actually tell what that would do
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[08:34:49] <tsoome> defaultdomain does not matter for nfs in regarding to domain; only domain name in resolv.conf or /etc/default/nfs
[08:35:29] <tsoome> and if you dont use kerberos, you still need usernames and uid/gid to be in sync
[08:36:12] <ocherno> I use LDAP for Linux and solaris to manage user ID, and much more ...
[08:36:42] <tsoome> if you have ldap, then the users are sorted
[08:36:44] <ocherno> I think you need to start idmap on Linux to map uid correctly with NFS
[08:37:29] <ocherno> (at least, I had to do it on Ubuntu )
[08:38:28] <Garo_> I have just two servers, the openindiana working as file server and a linux nfs client and no ldap or any other way to sync users. And frankly, I'd hope that I don't have to build any ldap or kerberos for this simple case. I might be able to go along with just exporting the nfs shares as nobody,nobody
[08:39:20] <Garo_> ocherno: yes, I had to do that and now the files on the nfs exports are shown as owned by nobody
[08:39:27] <Garo_> so that's a progress :)
[08:41:24] <ocherno> ok, so go back to solaris and change uid/gid to match Linux users
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[08:48:40] <madwizard> Coffee
[08:49:22] <Garo_> ok, I matched manually the users and their uids on both servers, but files still show as nobody. Is there something else I need to do to get this working?
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[08:50:43] <tsoome> you are copying as root? did you share it with root= option?
[08:51:04] <tsoome> man share_nfs
[08:54:27] <Garo_> tsoome: thanks, that was it. I indeed tried to touch files as root, which resulted the file owner to be nobody. When I tried as a normal user the owner seems to match the actual user
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[09:01:40] <Garo_> also thanks for ocherno and Agnar :)
[09:03:05] <ocherno> u welcome
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[10:23:07] <floogy_> Hi, I can no longer join the ad and mount the cifs share
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[10:34:04] <floogy_> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/543989/
[10:35:02] <floogy_> /var/krb5/principal :No such file or directory
[10:35:12] <floogy_> Should it be created manually?
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[11:44:43] <floogy_> ocherno, do you know a good tutorial for LDAP user/group synchronisation between openindiana and Active Directory, and the AD/CIFS and kerberos stuff. Once I managed to join successfully the AD in our network, but as I'm a newbie and no IT professional I didn't knew why it happened that I successfuly joined the domain. And now I can not reproduce that, and got issues to join that AD.
[11:49:05] <tsoome> in theory the steps are simple: make sure your time is in sync; create kerberos config so you can acquire tickets (kinit can get your ticket), and then join the domain….
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[12:13:19] <floogy_> So, it might be a time sync issue between oi and AD, I guess. But I don't know how to solve that.
[12:13:47] <floogy_> tsoome, did you read my last paste?
[12:14:04] <tsoome> yes, and i was wondering about kadmind
[12:14:20] <tsoome> because you shouldnt need that one unless you wanna create your own realm.
[12:15:33] <floogy_> Ok, so that might happened too, because I didn't oversee the whole thing, and set uzp a kerberos realm (don't know though) but wanted to join an existing AD
[12:17:15] <tsoome> for realm access you should not really need more than default_realm in [libdefaults] section and domainname = REALMNAME mapping in [domain_realm]
[12:17:38] <floogy_> So I need only LDAP, kerberos clients, to serve from oi to the AD the CIFS/shares and sync the users?
[12:17:45] <tsoome> those last 2 are real names, like yourdomain = YOURREALMNAME
[12:18:19] <tsoome> forget ldap at all for time being
[12:19:22] <tsoome> with this simple setup i can use kinit just fine to get my own ticket.
[12:19:48] <tsoome> but i havent done the AD join part after that, so I cant comment on that
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[12:28:54] <floogy_> So, like this: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/544037/
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[12:30:24] <floogy_> klist gives this output: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/544038/
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[12:38:01] <floogy_> smbadm list gives this http://paste.pocoo.org/show/544041/
[12:39:02] <floogy_> It seems that oi joined the AD, but I don't get the cifs share mounted from windows
[12:40:30] <floogy_> It asks for a user in MYDOM and the appropriate password, but that's all. The login returns with wron user or password, but the user exists in AD and locally on oi with that password.
[12:42:06] <floogy_> Maybe I need idmap add -d winuser:MYDOM\user1 unixuser:user1 ?
[12:42:52] <floogy_> I have add -d winuser:user1 at mydom dot local unixuser:user1
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[13:22:13] <tsoome> yes, your kerberos connection seems to be just fine.
[13:23:03] <tsoome> and smbadm seems to confirm you are connected to domain
[13:29:03] <Warod> I've never got OI working as domain member properly by hand... just find adjoin.sh script. :P
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[15:19:35] <floogy_> Warod,tsoome, ocherno, thanks, but I still don't know why I could not mount it. Hm, maybe I'll kill and restart explorer
[15:22:01] <floogy_> the network password is wrong (but that's not true) Maybe it has got something to do with MYDOM\user1 is not mapped to user1?
[15:22:20] <tsoome> you should be able to see idmap mapping list
[15:22:45] <tsoome> ig you have not applied any local rules, it should generate 1-1 mapping for existing users
[15:22:47] <Warod> floogy_: user accounts are from domain too?
[15:22:58] <tsoome> s/ig/if/
[15:24:21] <floogy_> yes, but I simply don't know what's a valid configuration. The win7 Explorer shows above the input field MYDOM\user1, so is it necessary to idmap MYDOM\user1 to user1. I don't know that.
[15:24:59] <Warod> floogy_: can you see the user1 with ldap ?
[15:25:01] <Warod> from the OI
[15:25:09] <Warod> can you see the user1 with getent passwd user1 ?
[15:25:53] <floogy_> Warod, no, because I don't know hoew to manage that. I can ldaplist user1 and it gives something, buit I have put them into oi as local users as well due to my problems to access shares
[15:26:05] <Warod> ah
[15:26:18] <Warod> do you want to do it like that or have them directly from AD?
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[15:29:20] <Warod> floogy_: Do you have "Microsoft Identity Management for UNIX" added to your Active Directory role on the AD?
[15:29:57] <Warod> floogy_: if you want to have unix compatible schema on the LDAP, you'll have to add that to the AD role on the server.
[15:30:50] <Warod> it'll give your AD user preferences new tab in which you can set the UID, Group and login shell etc for UNIX use.
[15:31:56] <Warod> Then you propably should add ldap to /etc/nsswitch.conf for passwd and group
[15:33:06] <floogy_> Warod, I gave up AD, but as I see I can lists smbadm list MYDOM and the appropriate GUID. But if possible I prefer to use AD Integration.
[15:33:44] <Warod> floogy_: well, if you don't have AD, then you can idmap the users manually or by more generic rule.
[15:33:46] <floogy_> Warod, yes I think it's maybe due to the lack of "Microsoft Identity Management for UNIX" in our AD, don't know.
[15:34:14] <floogy_> Also I had issues to set the AD dc as a NTP
[15:34:38] <Warod> floogy_: I've used general NTP for all systems
[15:34:51] <Warod> only windows clients sync from AD
[15:35:02] <Warod> AD syncs from global NTP pool
[15:35:42] <floogy_> as general, do you mean a ntp pool from the net? Is it also ok to usee different ntp pools on win AD and on oi?
[15:36:17] <floogy_> Yes I guess. So it's also ok.
[15:37:08] <floogy_> Sometimes it seems, that oi gets out of sync openindiana ntpd[276]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice] frequency error -512 PPM exceeds tolerance 500 PPM
[15:38:57] <Warod> well, I've noticed they sometimes drift some 1/10 of a second or so
[15:39:00] <floogy_> # ggrep -E 'ldap' /etc/nsswitch.conf
[15:39:00] <floogy_> passwd: files ldap
[15:39:01] <floogy_> group: files ldap
[15:39:08] <Warod> seems legit
[15:39:22] <Warod> how about getent passwd user1 ?
[15:39:33] <floogy_> Yes it's there
[15:39:54] <Warod> show me your idmap list
[15:40:38] <floogy_> ~# getent passwd user1
[15:40:38] <floogy_> user1:x:539:503:User1 floogy:/home/user1:/bin/false
[15:41:52] <floogy_> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/544120/
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[15:44:14] <floogy_> I wrote a script that parses passwd etc. and adds appropriate users on oi as on s9, but I would like more some official automagical user synchronization over LDAP/AD;)
[15:45:09] <Warod> well, then you need to add that thing on AD role
[15:45:20] <Warod> and set UIDs and GIDs on the AD siee
[15:45:22] <Warod> side*
[15:45:25] <floogy_> Warod, do you think it's due to the lack of MS ID Managment for UNIX?
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[15:46:45] <floogy_> Ah, yes, so it lacks the permissions to join, because in AD is no role for the OI NAS defined?
[15:46:51] <Warod> floogy_: well, that's the only way you can get the users from AD to UNIX LDAP
[15:47:13] <Warod> umm, you can join, but there's no UNIX comprehensible scema on the AD...
[15:48:03] <floogy_> Ah, ok so it seems, that I comletely missed that until now. The only thing I did was to put it into the AD DNS
[15:48:47] <floogy_> I'm also not familiar with AD. So that also put me into trouble.
[15:49:06] <Warod> yeah
[15:49:51] <floogy_> Ok, I joined into the AD, but the user1 in AD is not similar to the user1 I added to oi, right?
[15:50:11] <floogy_> I have to map it properly with idmap, yes?
[15:50:31] <floogy_> s/it/him/
[15:50:39] <Warod> if you have the AD role there, it's the same user on both of the systems
[15:50:48] <Warod> and you'll only need a generic idmap or no idmap at all
[15:50:55] <Warod> generic like:
[15:50:58] <Warod> add winname:* at yourdomain dot tld unixuser:*
[15:51:02] <Warod> and the same for group
[15:51:56] <floogy_> And then it will map "automagically" by ldap/ad, if it got a valid AD role?
[15:52:23] <floogy_> But it will not auto add the users to oi?
[15:53:04] <floogy_> Warod, can you recommend some readings for that?
[15:53:21] <Warod> well, after that the users *are* the same on OI
[15:53:38] <Warod> as they come from LDAP
[15:54:13] <Warod> I'm not 100% sure if you actually need that stuff for only the cifs share... but that's how I got it working.
[15:54:46] <floogy_> Warod, so LDAP not only offers informations on users and groups, it also provides a mechanism to get them as unix users in oi?
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[16:04:59] <floogy_> Warod, thank you for your help. I'll see if I can find the rest myself. Strange is, that I once already joined the AD with oi and mounted an oi CIFS share by the win7 box that also joined that AD succesfully.
[16:06:15] <floogy_> So maybe the MS ID Managment for UNIX is not necessary for mounting the cifs share.
[16:06:48] <floogy_> Exists this also in german language? http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19082-01/820-2429/820-2429.pdf
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[21:04:17] <infowarrior> Hi everyone, I'm new to the community and rather pleased by what I've experienced with Open Indiana so far. Everything just works! If I want to get deeper under the hood, what is a good resource to reference?
[21:05:04] <Warod> Need to go deeper? You should watch Inception. ;)
[21:05:11] <tsoome> openindiana.org, oracle docs site
[21:05:46] <tsoome> last one is a bit ooff already because of changes in s11, but still will mostly apply
[21:08:37] <infowarrior> haha, haven't seen that in a while, I might just do that. Tsoome: That was going to be my next question, if Oracle decides to hold back on source updates, will this OS keep chugging on?
[21:09:13] <tsoome> cant tell, because im not developing neither;)
[21:09:46] <tsoome> hopefully at some point of time i will have more time….
[21:10:36] <infowarrior> Need more time? Maybe you should go a level deeper :P
[21:11:12] <tsoome> :D
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[23:33:23] <ianj> is the February 2010 patched version of Sun Studio for the OI CBE no longer available?
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[23:38:04] <alanc> not from Oracle
[23:38:20] <alanc> and I don't think it was under a license which allowed redistribution
[23:39:39] <ianj> I assumed it wouldn't be available outside of Sun/Oracle, so when all the links from third-party sites got redirected to a generic Oracle page directing users to the "Software Delivery Cloud," I was a bit concerned.
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[23:41:19] <ianj> I got lucky and found a copy I had saved. I'll be sure not to lose it.
[23:42:04] <alanc> make backups
[23:42:09] <ianj> indeed.
[23:42:22] <alanc> or help test rich's gcc builds so you can learn to live without
[23:42:40] <alanc> because really, that's the only path with a viable future for illumos/OI
[23:42:45] <ianj> clearlty
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[23:42:50] <ianj> s/clearlty/clearly
[23:42:58] <alanc> (well, gcc, clang or similar open source chain)
[23:43:26] <ianj> the particular specs I'm building today shouldn't even require Sun Studio, but I want to set up the CBE according to the traditional procedures
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