January 28, 2012 
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January 28, 2012 [00:00:13] *** Licenser has joined #openindiana[00:12:15] *** Botanic has quit IRC[00:53:13] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[00:53:13] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[00:55:28] *** Bdragon has quit IRC[00:58:48] *** ismell has quit IRC[00:59:35] *** ismell has joined #openindiana[01:00:21] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[01:03:54] *** ismell has quit IRC[01:06:41] <holoway> hi guys - random solaris question[01:07:04] *** ismell has joined #openindiana[01:07:55] <holoway> is there a way to link against earlier versions of libc? my problem is that I have a build that works for the latest patch level of solaris 10, but not on older patch revisions[01:07:59] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[01:08:04] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[01:10:07] <richlowe> You should be able to use a linker mapfile to explicitly not link to newer versions.[01:10:19] <richlowe> I don't remember how, but the linker and libraries guide tells you.[01:11:05] <holoway> richlowe: thanks![01:11:23] <richlowe> I'm not sure that's a foolproof way to work on releases older than the one you're building on though.[01:11:52] *** ismell has quit IRC[01:12:20] <richlowe> holoway: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/817-1984/chapter5-87360/index.html is the bit of the guide I meant.[01:12:35] *** ismell has joined #openindiana[01:13:04] <richlowe> I vaguely recall it not logically following the version ancestry, so you may have to explicitly list all prior versions, too (and libc's versioning is a mess)[01:13:05] <holoway> richlowe: but I'm not crazy - the compatibility is only assured if you were built on earlier patchlevels[01:14:56] <richlowe> I'm not actually sure how versioning, etc, in patches works.[01:15:13] <richlowe> my expectation would be "badly", but that's more a tendency toward bitterness than any kind of evidence supporting it.[01:15:21] <holoway> hehehe[01:15:29] <holoway> my expectation was that it would probably work just fine[01:15:40] <holoway> but it's being met with resistance by reality[01:32:21] *** ismell has quit IRC[01:37:04] *** ismell has joined #openindiana[01:42:35] *** _404_Error_ has joined #openindiana[01:45:03] <alanc> I thought the linker automatically picked the smallest version number that contained all the symbols you called[01:45:31] <holoway> alanc: that seems reasonable[01:48:00] <richlowe> alanc: mapfile via LD_OPTIONS should stop, for eg, autoconf finding newer symbols to call.[02:09:27] *** wilsonkk has quit IRC[02:22:49] *** wilsonkk has joined #openindiana[02:34:49] *** feizhou__ has quit IRC[02:36:16] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[02:45:49] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[02:47:45] *** feizhou__ has joined #openindiana[02:53:01] *** ira has joined #openindiana[02:58:54] *** merzo has quit IRC[02:59:00] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[02:59:27] *** raichoo has quit IRC[03:02:02] *** kenon has quit IRC[03:21:33] *** noahmehl has quit IRC[03:22:27] *** noahmehl has joined #openindiana[03:34:17] *** Shep_Book has quit IRC[03:51:17] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[03:54:50] *** Licenser_ has joined #openindiana[03:54:54] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[03:56:19] *** Licenser has quit IRC[03:56:19] *** Licenser_ is now known as Licenser[04:06:09] *** APTX has quit IRC[04:11:08] *** Seony has quit IRC[04:15:45] *** APTX has joined #openindiana[04:25:23] *** gea has quit IRC[04:57:06] *** DanaG has joined #openindiana[04:57:40] <DanaG> hmm, I'm thinking of giving OpenIndiana another try, now that I have a hard drive to run it from (rather than a USB flash drive).[04:58:04] <DanaG> But, I have a few questions. One question: how the heck do you pass parameters to kernel modules?[04:58:36] <DanaG> Example: on Linux, I need "options ipmi_si type=kcs addrs=0xca2 ..." to get the ipmi driver to load, since the BIOS declares the wrong address for the IPMI device.[05:01:40] *** d_k has quit IRC[05:19:05] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[05:21:53] *** kenon has quit IRC[05:22:30] <DanaG> oh, and the other question: does the bge still suck terribly, or is it now at least reasonably?[05:22:35] <DanaG> reasonable, rather.[05:29:09] <DanaG> http://picpaste.com/fail-N1WdpRqV.jpg[05:29:23] <DanaG> got that when I tried to boot the installed-under-VM drive on the host, natively.[05:35:03] <DanaG> I see, I need to reimport the root pool.[05:38:56] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[05:40:33] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[05:48:45] <Botanic> DanaG, what bge you talking about i know of at least 3 :)[05:52:35] <DanaG> Botanic: More specifically, the hardware is Broadcom 5723.[05:52:48] <Botanic> broadcom problems were mostly fixed[05:52:50] <Botanic> afaik[05:52:59] <DanaG> Last time I tried OpenIndiana, with bge and booted from USB flash drive, it was way way way way slower than Ubuntu on same hardware (including flash drive).[05:53:08] <Botanic> was that pre 151?[05:53:15] <Botanic> there was a bug in 148?[05:53:16] <DanaG> It was a couple of months ago.[05:53:34] <DanaG> Probably like October or November?[05:53:38] <Botanic> thats very unspecific[05:53:41] <Botanic> the network was slow?[05:54:10] <DanaG> No, more like any disk operation to the flash drive happened at a glacial pace.[05:54:28] <DanaG> Made it feel like a 10-year-old computer.[05:54:41] <Botanic> id say prolly just a bad driver for that flash drive then[05:54:51] <Botanic> ive had no issues with standard drives[05:55:00] <DanaG> For the moment, this new attempt will still be usb, but with a platter drive.[05:55:14] <DanaG> Oh, and the reason I switched away from booting from flash drive: the flash drive itself started crashing.[05:55:38] <Botanic> never used OI on flash drives[05:55:52] <Botanic> it works well from OCZ ssd's and standard hard drives[05:56:17] <Botanic> could be a usb issue[06:05:03] <alanc> I seem to remember the bge performance loss being fixed by undoing the bad change for write caching in drivers[06:05:12] *** jrapdx has joined #openindiana[06:05:26] <Patrickdk> openindiana isn't optimized to be put on usb flash[06:05:36] <Patrickdk> now, ubuntu, they do optimize it[06:06:19] <Patrickdk> and the next issue is, usb support is almost non-existant, the fact it works at all, is amazing :)[06:07:06] <_Tenchi_> i seem to recall lots of discussion last year leading up to the consensus that opensolaris and illumos deratives were notoriously slow running off of USB flash drives[06:07:19] <_Tenchi_> not just booting off of usb flash drives, but running off of them[06:08:38] <Patrickdk> I thought, running it off usb, was just pure evil[06:08:47] <Patrickdk> booting off it is painful enough[06:09:59] <alanc> https://www.illumos.org/issues/1402 is the bug I was thinking of[06:11:28] <richlowe> Yeah, that sucked.[06:11:41] <richlowe> and use via usb _sometimes_ sucks[06:29:48] *** ira has quit IRC[06:47:41] *** RobbieCrash has joined #openindiana[06:49:25] *** gb_away has quit IRC[06:54:37] *** flyz_ has joined #openindiana[06:57:18] *** flyz has quit IRC[07:25:44] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[07:28:26] *** kenon has quit IRC[07:31:45] *** DanaG has quit IRC[07:47:11] *** Bdragon28 has joined #openindiana[07:57:35] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[08:00:53] *** pjama has quit IRC[08:01:07] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[08:02:17] *** OMV-User has quit IRC[08:04:10] *** pjama has joined #openindiana[08:09:40] *** DanaG has joined #openindiana[08:09:50] <DanaG> Ooookay, so, my bge driver seems to be entirely missing.[08:09:54] <DanaG> Or at least, it's not loaded.[08:10:11] <DanaG> er[08:10:20] <DanaG> nevermind... looks like I misinterpreted "modload"[08:10:59] *** OMV-User has joined #openindiana[08:11:08] <DanaG> SIOCGLIFINDEX for bge0: no such file or directory[08:11:11] <DanaG> r[08:11:12] <DanaG> er[08:11:15] <DanaG> no such device or address[08:12:23] <DanaG> yet, dmesg mentions a bge0.[08:13:01] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[08:14:43] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[08:14:43] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[08:20:44] <DanaG> ah, had to "touch /reconfigure"[08:20:45] <DanaG> http://tazlambert.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/basic-networking-in-solaris-10/[08:25:56] *** DanaG has quit IRC[08:26:26] *** pjama has quit IRC[08:28:23] *** pjama has joined #openindiana[08:34:16] *** pjama has quit IRC[08:37:47] *** pjama has joined #openindiana[08:42:29] *** Seony has joined #openindiana[08:49:22] *** floogy has quit IRC[08:59:19] *** jw_urodoc has quit IRC[09:33:55] *** floogy has joined #openindiana[09:38:54] *** floogy has quit IRC[09:41:33] *** easy-iPad has joined #openindiana[09:56:42] *** easy-iPad has quit IRC[10:14:04] *** gea has 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#openindiana[17:44:32] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[17:47:39] *** wilsonkk has quit IRC[17:48:21] *** hajma has quit IRC[17:50:46] *** tsukasa has quit IRC[17:51:33] *** spanglywires has joined #openindiana[17:56:06] *** tsukasa has joined #openindiana[17:56:07] *** tsukasa has joined #openindiana[17:56:53] *** monta-` has quit IRC[18:00:33] *** tsukasa has quit IRC[18:00:36] *** merzo has quit IRC[18:00:40] *** wilsonkk has joined #openindiana[18:02:09] *** tsukasa has joined #openindiana[18:02:10] *** tsukasa has joined #openindiana[18:07:55] *** kovert has quit IRC[18:17:18] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[18:17:26] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[18:18:47] <raichoo> hi folks[18:19:17] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[18:22:52] *** tsukasa has quit IRC[18:26:07] *** tsukasa has joined #openindiana[18:26:08] *** tsukasa has joined #openindiana[18:27:13] *** easy-iPad has joined #openindiana[18:32:38] *** kovert has joined #openindiana[18:42:44] *** Jago has quit IRC[18:47:35] *** easy-iPad has quit IRC[18:47:52] *** Jago has joined #openindiana[18:49:05] *** Licenser has quit IRC[18:56:39] *** jurikm has joined #openindiana[18:59:56] *** enmand has quit IRC[19:02:26] <floogy> Hi again, I got issues to setup rsyncd. I guess it's due to the lack of execution permission bit on the method/rsyncd[19:02:48] <floogy> openindiana svc.startd[10]: [ID 652011 daemon.warning] svc:/network/rsyncd:default: Method "/lib/svc/method/rsyncd start" failed with exit status 126.[19:03:22] <floogy> Must it have exe permission, as I think?[19:03:26] *** codestr0m has left #openindiana[19:05:23] <floogy> svcs svc:/network/rsyncd:default[19:05:37] <floogy> maintenance 18:50:15 svc:/network/rsyncd:default[19:06:50] *** Transformer has joined #openindiana[19:07:37] <floogy> yes, seems to be the culprit /sbin/sh[1]: exec: /lib/svc/method/rsyncd: cannot execute [Permission denied][19:07:49] *** DanaG has joined #openindiana[19:08:22] <Meths> Yeah, all files in that dir should be +x[19:08:41] <DanaG> hmm, so, apparently I didn't realize that the stupid Linux zfs scripts kept repeatedly importing the pool even after I'd manually exported it (in preparation for mounting in the VM guest). So, now I get an assertion failure when I try to zpool import... both on OpenIndiana and Linux. VERIFY3(0 == dmu_bonus_hold(os, object, dl, &dl->dl_buf)) failed (0 == 5)[19:08:41] <DanaG> I can see all the directories and snapshots at the zfs grub, but that doesn't help me much if grub can't do "cp" So anyway, what kind of recovery utilities are there, when the pool can't be imported?[19:09:19] <Meths> floogy: I'm struggling to find a package that delivers that file though. Where did you get it from?[19:11:57] <floogy> Meth, http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/rsync+daemon+service+on+OpenIndiana or https://www.illumos.org/issues/1853[19:13:08] <Meths> Ah, cool, hadn't seen that.[19:14:32] <floogy> hm, it still doesnt work, same error messages. -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2651 Dez 4 12:18 /lib/svc/method/rsyncd (output of ls -l /lib/svc/method/rsyncd)[19:16:21] <floogy> /sbin/sh[1]: exec: /lib/svc/method/rsyncd: cannot execute [Permission denied][19:16:21] <floogy> Method "start" exited with status 126. ][19:17:08] <floogy> It's beyond me..[19:18:01] <Meths> ownership looks wrong. root:bin not root:root[19:19:59] <floogy> Ah, thx, will try that.[19:21:41] <floogy> No, that didn[19:21:47] <floogy> 't help[19:22:45] <Meths> Are you disabling and enabling after making the changes or clearing?[19:23:12] <floogy> No, only enabled from maintenance[19:23:52] <Meths> try svcadm clear rsyncd[19:24:12] <floogy> Meths, thanks, disabling was necessary[19:24:21] <Meths> Cool[19:24:58] <floogy> Did you get yours running too?[19:25:10] <Meths> Nope, wasn't trying.[19:26:49] <floogy> Meths, is rsyncd only for delivering files?[19:27:49] <floogy> Didn't used it, only locally or on network mounts.[19:27:52] *** Licenser has joined #openindiana[19:37:30] <floogy> Is it in any case rsync source user@target:/path/to/target I don't want to delete something in source ;)[19:43:56] <floogy> Ok, the man page is really obvious.[19:44:13] <Patrickdk> rsyncd is optional[19:44:31] <Patrickdk> it is only needed if you want to do remote copy, and not use ssh or something else[19:45:46] <floogy> Yes I know, that's optional, but I think it would maybe support xattr and acl better, don't know though.[19:46:22] <Patrickdk> no[19:46:36] <Patrickdk> rsync over ssh, launchs rsync on each side, so it would be no different[19:47:28] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[19:47:34] *** Botanic has quit IRC[19:47:34] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[19:47:41] <floogy> ok, so if the netfilesystem doesn't limitate things, there will be no difference.[19:49:42] <floogy> It is somewhat slow on the first run, right?[19:50:27] <floogy> I want to transfer 2,8 TiB, I think that will take 70-80h[19:55:06] *** gea has joined #openindiana[20:08:21] *** merzo has joined #openindiana[20:10:27] *** ira has joined #openindiana[20:24:43] *** jrapdx has quit IRC[20:47:11] *** jurikm has left #openindiana[20:47:23] *** spanglywires has left #openindiana[20:51:08] <DanaG> hmm, so apparently assertion-failure pool panics even Solaris 11.[20:52:56] *** d_k has joined #openindiana[20:54:31] <DanaG> so, how the heck do you recover data from a pool that panics on import?[20:55:07] <DanaG> oh yeah, and compared to Linux, I feel _completely_ lost when trying to find darn near anything in OI.[20:55:46] <DanaG> For example: how the heck do you pass module parameters? I'd need to do the equivalent of:[20:55:59] <DanaG> options ipmi_si addrs=0xca2 type=kcs ...[20:56:27] *** gea_ has joined #openindiana[20:59:38] *** gea has quit IRC[20:59:52] *** gea_ is now known as gea[21:02:24] *** ira has quit IRC[21:07:50] <Patrickdk> hmm, modules have config files[21:07:53] <Patrickdk> edit it :)[21:08:11] <Patrickdk> and oi doesn't have a ipmi module[21:09:04] *** d_k has quit IRC[21:09:16] <DanaG> ah, then how is ipmievd supposed to get its events?[21:09:49] <Patrickdk> no idea what ipmievd is[21:10:23] <Patrickdk> but the only solaris ipmi driver, was closed source[21:13:30] <DanaG> ipmi event daemon.[21:13:40] <DanaG> Retrieves ipmi events, and sticks them in the system log.[21:14:01] <Patrickdk> don't see that in OI at all[21:15:02] <Patrickdk> oh, there is your solution, read the man page[21:15:06] <Patrickdk> lanplus :)[21:15:18] <Patrickdk> no kernel driver needed, just have to get ipmi info over the network[21:17:25] <DanaG> The only problem: the Microserver remote access card is a piece of crap.[21:17:30] <DanaG> Sometimes doesn't respond over the network.[21:17:36] <DanaG> Sometimes doesn't respond inband.[21:17:46] <DanaG> And both of those "sometimes"... sometimes overlap.[21:25:07] <DanaG> hmm, so if a pool panics on import, is it truly impossible to recover?[21:25:24] <DanaG> I don't want to spend a bunch of hours attempting something that is, indeed, truly impossible.[21:25:55] *** jw_urodoc has joined #openindiana[21:28:30] *** ironmunk has quit IRC[21:33:49] <DanaG> well whaddaya know, the ipmi card just died.[21:38:41] *** init3 has quit IRC[21:49:36] *** init3 has joined #openindiana[21:51:41] *** Vutral has quit IRC[22:04:36] <DanaG> every time I've tried OpenIndiana, I've felt completely lost.[22:06:25] <Wraithhh> DanaG, there's an option to avoid the panic with a pretty good probablity[22:06:35] <Wraithhh> but you'll probably still want to rebuild your pool[22:06:57] *** glowfox has joined #openindiana[22:07:18] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[22:08:01] <DanaG> yeah, just being able to "cp" to somewhere will be enough.[22:09:45] <DanaG> here's the exact panic:[22:09:45] <DanaG> VERIFY3(0 == dmu_bonus_hold(os, object, dl, &dl->dl_buf)) failed (0 == 5)[22:09:47] <Wraithhh> http://pastebin.com/RvuszSWw[22:09:51] <Wraithhh> you can try that[22:09:55] <Wraithhh> before the import[22:11:06] *** ira has joined #openindiana[22:14:20] <DanaG> Thanks. I'll try that.[22:14:23] <DanaG> http://blogs.oracle.com/middleview/entry/recovering_from_a_zfs_disaster[22:15:12] <DanaG> What does that do, anyway?[22:16:36] <Wraithhh> it turns the error in mount into a non-fatal one[22:17:05] <DanaG> Cool. I'll have to try that in the VM, and scp everything to something on the host.[22:17:06] <Wraithhh> you might want to boot from a livecd or take some other approach to avoid it importing automatically[22:17:22] <Wraithhh> and probably the import -o readonly=on is a good idea[22:17:42] <DanaG> ah, it's not just "-o readonly"? Interesting.[22:17:44] <Wraithhh> DanaG, which oi version were you running? 151?[22:18:22] <DanaG> The panic is when I tried with anything -- ZFSonLinux, whatever OI was downloadable yesterday, and even Solaris 11.[22:19:45] *** Licenser has quit IRC[22:20:34] *** Licenser has joined #openindiana[22:25:57] <DanaG> okay, same panic even with aok.[22:30:44] *** axisys_ has quit IRC[22:30:54] <DanaG> hmm, not sure if it's due to me hacking at the module, or due to passing a more correct "readonly=on" instead of "ro" to zpool... but now the Linux module isn't panicing.[22:31:26] *** axisys has joined #openindiana[22:31:36] <DanaG> cannot import "mypool": I/O error. Destroy and recreate the pool from a backup source.[22:31:48] *** axisys has joined #openindiana[22:33:51] <DanaG> how odd... one of the drives is actually missing.[22:39:20] <DanaG> ioctl(4, 0x5a02, 0x7fffe8a614c0) = -1 EIO (Input/output error)[22:39:20] <DanaG> w[22:44:01] <DanaG> okay, the drive missing has nothing to do with it... I restarted the server and the drive is back, but still gives IO error or panic.[22:47:06] *** ikarius has joined #openindiana[22:54:31] *** APTX has quit IRC[22:56:02] *** APTX has joined #openindiana[22:58:32] <DanaG> Yeah, it's way dead. I think I'll give up now.[23:01:41] *** synegy34 has joined #openindiana[23:01:52] *** ikarius has quit IRC[23:01:54] *** Darkproger has quit IRC[23:02:09] *** Darkproger has joined #openindiana[23:05:50] *** datadigger has quit IRC[23:07:35] *** glowfox has quit IRC[23:20:40] *** datadigger has joined #openindiana[23:31:08] <DanaG> so, now I just have to decide whether to do zfsonlinux, or run the zfs in a VM.[23:31:24] <DanaG> I don't much like OI as host, because I'm absolutely lost in it.[23:31:48] <raichoo> Did you take a look at smartos?[23:34:31] <DanaG> Never heard of it, actually.[23:34:46] <raichoo> It's another distribution of illumos :)[23:34:53] <DanaG> Here's what I use my server for:[23:35:08] <raichoo> I actually like OI a lot.[23:35:10] <DanaG> torrents, mostly. ZNC irc-bouncer. File server. Sometimes UPnP server.[23:35:39] <raichoo> What was it that made you feel lost?[23:35:49] <DanaG> I can't find anything, such as the kernel modules.[23:36:16] <raichoo> Well, that's just a matter of learning. But why would you want that in the first place?[23:36:18] <DanaG> And when I booted the VM native, it gave me weird messages like bge0 "doesn't exist" despite it showing up in dmesg.[23:36:21] <raichoo> modules lie in /kernel[23:36:33] <raichoo> you can look at the loaded ones with modinfo[23:36:54] <DanaG> It seemed like /kernel had only a bare minimum of modules. Like, nothing to indicate there was a USB sound card driver.[23:37:03] <DanaG> And nothing matching the string "ipmi"[23:37:49] <DanaG> And it was a pain trying to find applications to do darn near anything -- example, no "deluge" torrent client.[23:38:00] <DanaG> But I can always run that in a VM, after all.[23:38:29] <raichoo> DanaG: OI is still young. Grab a broom and help a little :)[23:39:12] <DanaG> I also didn't see anything indicating it would look for correctable ecc errors. Linux has the amd64_edac module.[23:39:22] <raichoo> I compile a lot of stuff myself atm. I see a lot of value in the system, that's why I can live with some "problems".[23:40:24] <DanaG> hmm, maybe I should try SmartOS.[23:40:33] <raichoo> Give it a shot.[23:40:41] <Triskelios> I ported Deluge years ago in SFE, but Transmission is much better maintained\[23:41:16] <Triskelios> I didn't think ECC reporting needed a special driver on AMD64[23:42:30] <raichoo> What's mc-amd about? Sounds like something like it.[23:43:07] <raichoo> I'm not running OI on ECC hardware so I never wasted a thought about it.[23:44:07] <Triskelios> yeah, mc-amd covers ECC[23:44:18] <raichoo> thought so[23:47:13] <DanaG> cool. I just thought the lack of logged messages a bit weird.[23:47:48] <raichoo> You can boot up in verbose mode if you want to see what's happening.[23:49:21] <Triskelios> most of those messages are printed to syslog anyway[23:52:34] <DanaG> I think I'll leave 40 gigs free for ubuntu btrfs, in case I change my mind later.[23:53:07] <Triskelios> haha, btrfs[23:53:33] <Triskelios> (sorry, I've gotten a _lot_ of information about it lately)[23:53:36] <raichoo> *snicker*[23:53:45] <raichoo> Triskelios: come on, spill :D[23:53:58] <raichoo> I'm all game for some laughs :D[23:54:13] <sommerfeld> dirt, rumors and innuendo?[23:55:14] <DanaG> well, my current ubuntu install, I moved from the zfs root to a separate, single ext4 drive.[23:55:32] <DanaG> Maybe I'll just set the new pair as mdadm, for now.[23:55:42] <DanaG> Stupid priorities... build a file system, but no fscking.... fsck.[23:57:04] <RobbieCrash> Can someone point me to where I need to look to find out why my zfs cache drive becomes unavailable at every reboot? After each reboot I need to remove and then add it, which happens without issue. The drive is on the same controller as my main system drive, but it always fails to reattach at reboot.[23:57:57] <Triskelios> RobbieCrash: which pool is the cache for?[23:59:55] <DanaG> oh, and how do I make sure the partitions I'll be creating are aligned for an advanced-format drive?