January 26, 2012 
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January 26, 2012 [00:05:37] *** Mech0z has quit IRC[00:06:38] *** russiane39 has joined #openindiana[00:06:56] *** horsi has quit IRC[00:15:26] *** smrt has quit IRC[00:15:45] *** smrt has joined #openindiana[00:19:01] *** Zenos has quit IRC[00:19:56] *** ekix has quit IRC[00:20:58] *** Zenos has joined #openindiana[00:22:30] *** ekix has joined #openindiana[00:27:03] *** bradend has quit IRC[00:29:06] *** bradend has joined #openindiana[00:35:37] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[00:46:49] *** movement has quit IRC[00:46:49] *** ChanServ has quit IRC[00:52:13] *** joes_ has quit IRC[00:52:26] *** joes_ has joined #openindiana[00:58:44] *** ChanServ has joined #openindiana[00:58:44] *** pratchett.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ[00:59:57] *** spanglywires has quit IRC[01:03:10] *** laogrymt has quit IRC[01:04:44] *** laogrymt_ has joined #openindiana[01:10:05] *** movement has joined #openindiana[01:18:01] *** dajhorn has joined #openindiana[01:28:06] *** allanblack_ has joined #openindiana[01:28:06] *** allanblack has quit IRC[01:31:16] *** laogrymt_ has quit IRC[01:51:42] *** herzen has quit IRC[01:58:01] *** CME has quit IRC[02:01:46] *** CME has joined #openindiana[02:04:51] *** jed1 has joined #openindiana[02:05:32] <jed1> hi.[02:06:14] <jed1> first, I'm probably retarded, so, if I need to just go RTFM, please let me know (but PLEASE point me to the right place).[02:08:17] <jed1> I'm attempting to install openindiana 151a on a systems with a 3ware 9650SE card. the drivers for opensolaris that I downloaded from the lsi website (apparently LSI bought 3ware while I was taking a nap) only include i386/tw and amd64/tw files, and not much else of any help. how do I make the installer (text based for the server version) do something with these files?[02:08:54] *** n2deep has quit IRC[02:10:03] <jed1> I've gone to the shell and scp'd them to the system, but the installer doesn't seem to recognize them when I enter in the path for them in the additional drivers dialog.[02:10:47] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[02:11:42] *** MrSambo has joined #openindiana[02:13:48] <MrSambo> Hi all...is there any way to create another vnic from within an exclusive IP zone?[02:16:32] <MrSambo> I'd like to run a Vbox VM bridged to 3 different interfaces created within the zone if possible[02:18:50] <MrSambo> and it's fine if I have to create some type of NAT device in the zone to accomplish this over the zone's Net0[02:19:12] <MrSambo> if possible...[02:28:08] *** ruse39 has joined #openindiana[02:35:49] *** horsi has joined #openindiana[02:38:34] *** bongo has quit IRC[02:46:03] *** _404_Error_ has joined #openindiana[03:00:45] *** ajkn has quit IRC[03:06:01] *** n2deep has quit IRC[03:07:49] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[03:09:52] *** xenol has quit IRC[03:10:41] *** wilsonkk has quit IRC[03:12:46] *** ajkno has joined #openindiana[03:16:17] *** xenol has joined #openindiana[03:21:06] *** POloser has joined #openindiana[03:22:52] *** wilsonkk has joined #openindiana[03:29:13] *** ikarius has quit IRC[03:30:17] *** TomJ has quit IRC[03:45:06] <jed1> anyone there?[03:46:52] *** xenol has quit IRC[03:46:58] <MrSambo> no[03:47:11] <jed1> didn't think so.[03:47:57] <jed1> anyone have tips for making the device driver utility actually see the drivers for a 3ware card that I've copied to the system? (This is during installation, not on an already running system).[03:48:00] *** niner has joined #openindiana[03:49:13] <MrSambo> seems like if it's compatible, in the right place, with the right permissions...[03:49:32] <jed1> one might think.[03:49:59] <MrSambo> is this in OI?[03:50:05] <jed1> yes[03:50:18] <MrSambo> all bets are off then[03:50:24] <jed1> LOL[03:50:51] *** xenol has joined #openindiana[03:51:43] <MrSambo> you wouldn't know about creating extra vnics in a zone would you?[03:52:13] <jed1> no, I can't even get OI installed.[03:52:45] <MrSambo> server or graphical?[03:52:50] <jed1> server[03:52:58] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[03:53:31] <MrSambo> is the 3ware card related to anything in the HCL?[03:53:42] <jed1> can't add the drivers from shell because /kernel/drv is ro (and full), and doesn't seem to like it when I try to remount[03:54:18] <jed1> yes, supposedly it works, and people can run it, but I'm apparently too dumb to figure out how to actually install it.[03:54:46] <jed1> I suppose I could install on another drive, on the built-in sata controllers, but I'd really prefer not to.[03:54:54] <MrSambo> are you sure you have to add it the way you are attempting?[03:54:57] <jed1> since this is just a test/proof of concept.[03:55:18] <jed1> I'm sure that it isn't recognized, so I've got to add something if I want it to work[03:55:28] <jed1> but I'm not sure what the correct method is, no[03:56:35] <MrSambo> OK, OI boots off the hdd or something other than the .iso, but doesn't recogognize card & you can't add driver to the installed system - right?[03:56:54] <jed1> no[03:57:02] <jed1> OI boots off the iso[03:57:11] *** Licenser_ has joined #openindiana[03:57:12] *** niner has quit IRC[03:57:36] <MrSambo> but but nic not recognized?[03:58:24] <jed1> installer says "no drives". the install additional drivers dialog sees the 3ware card, but won't accept anything I do to tell it which drivers to use (clearly I'm doing something incorrect, or using the wrong drivers, or SOMETHING, but I can't figure out what).[03:58:36] *** Licenser has quit IRC[03:58:36] *** Licenser_ is now known as Licenser[03:58:56] <jed1> the NIC is fine, it is the 3ware controller card that isn't recognized.[04:00:40] <mercutio2> use a lsi controller?[04:00:54] <jed1> LOL.[04:01:02] <jed1> LSI bought 3ware.[04:01:07] <jed1> so technically...[04:01:21] <mercutio2> lsi controllers are supported better though[04:01:29] <mercutio2> i don't know much about 3ware[04:02:10] <MrSambo> K, i thought it was a nic instead of a controller...[04:02:56] <jed1> an alternate solution would be to use a different operating system. or just buy something already built. but this is hardware is what I've got, and I'd *like* to learn if openindiana is something I should invest any time in. I've probably already invested too much fumbling around with this, but I hate to give up.[04:04:49] <jed1> anyway, thanks for the time. I've gtg. have a good evening/day/morning (depending on where you happen to be).[04:04:52] <mercutio2> well do a search on forums[04:04:55] <MrSambo> Try the graphical installer - you probably don't need the training wheels, but It might make things easier until you can/can't get this driver issue bucked out[04:05:12] *** jed1 has left #openindiana[04:07:24] <MrSambo> Hi all...is there any way to create another vnic from within an exclusive IP zone?[04:33:11] *** enmand has quit IRC[04:37:23] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[04:46:01] *** ikarius has joined #openindiana[04:50:14] *** enmand has quit IRC[05:01:06] *** gb_away has quit IRC[05:40:00] <MrSambo> anyone home?[05:41:02] *** Shep_Book has quit IRC[05:42:30] <MrSambo> Does anyone here still use OpenIndiana?[06:10:08] *** heldus has quit IRC[06:11:36] *** gb_away has joined #openindiana[06:12:57] <WebDawg> MrSambo, yes.[06:13:02] <WebDawg> MrSambo, What else is there?[06:14:04] *** heldus has joined #openindiana[06:15:41] *** keremet has joined #openindiana[06:22:24] *** ianj has quit IRC[06:23:02] *** DrLou has joined #openindiana[06:23:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrLou[06:28:34] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[06:31:24] *** kenon has quit IRC[06:31:25] *** ianj has joined #openindiana[06:33:08] *** joshie has quit IRC[07:00:08] <MrSambo> Gosh, i don't know![07:06:26] *** MrSambo has left #openindiana[07:16:03] <horsi> anyone know where to start debugging random system crashes?[07:18:43] *** geoff_ has quit IRC[07:21:08] *** flyz has joined #openindiana[07:28:38] *** ianj has quit IRC[07:44:29] *** jedi4ever has quit IRC[07:45:26] *** flyz has quit IRC[07:48:17] *** jw_urodoc2 has joined #openindiana[07:48:56] *** joes_ has left #openindiana[07:53:33] *** geoff_ has joined #openindiana[07:55:23] *** Botanic has quit IRC[07:55:33] <RoyK> horsi: I'd start with running a memory test[08:06:28] *** ianj has joined #openindiana[08:12:20] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[08:14:43] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[08:23:26] *** jedi4ever has joined #openindiana[08:25:38] *** n2deep has quit IRC[08:27:42] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[08:27:55] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[08:30:22] *** kenon has quit IRC[08:36:34] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[08:36:34] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[08:45:54] *** HyperJohnGraham has quit IRC[08:48:21] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[08:48:28] *** wORSOE has joined #openindiana[08:51:38] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[08:53:33] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[08:55:51] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[08:59:56] *** Botanic has quit IRC[09:09:35] <floogy> I noticed, that su - gives me a PATH=/usr/gnu/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin and the su subshell PATH=/usr/sbin:/usr/bin . So which ls in the subshell gives /usr/bin/ls[09:10:02] <floogy> and for su - /usr/gnu/bin/ls[09:15:38] *** synegy34 has quit IRC[09:16:03] <RoyK> the path thing is tricky, especially when it comes to chmod, ls and a few others, since gnu ls doesn't understand ZFS ACLs, but then, solaris df and friends aren't really very userfriendly compared to the ones from GNU[09:16:22] *** hajma_ has joined #openindiana[09:18:04] *** _404_Error_ has quit IRC[09:20:03] <tsoome> user friendly df?[09:21:16] *** LizardKing has quit IRC[09:21:19] <RoyK> du, perhaps[09:21:26] <RoyK> things like --apparent-size are nice[09:21:47] <RoyK> I thought of some flags df didn't have earlier, but forget about that[09:22:43] <RoyK> tsoome: anyway - there's a few good reason alasdair chose to put /usr/gnu/bin before /usr/bin in path[09:23:05] <tsoome> thats ages old discussion[09:23:23] <tsoome> and there is *no* good reason[09:23:41] <tsoome> except the one to please linux crowd[09:24:08] *** kenon has quit IRC[09:24:41] *** n2deep has quit IRC[09:24:56] <tsoome> the good reason would be if gnu tools would be fixed to properly support the os, but that has never been done[09:26:03] *** alcir has joined #openindiana[09:26:14] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[09:26:17] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[09:26:19] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[09:31:01] <floogy> Also I noticed, that I copied the .profile of a staff user to /root, and changed the PS1 to red color. That way I copied the export PATH line from the user. But I changed the order then, but set shows still the old PATH after exit the su - and relogin su - I don't understand that, because the PS1 color from that .profile works in the su - Shell.[09:32:07] *** n2deep has quit IRC[09:34:09] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[09:36:53] <floogy> err: I only put /usr/sbin:/sbin before /usr/gnu/bin, but not /usr/bin :P[09:39:31] <tsoome> there is also .bash*[09:39:40] <tsoome> that may rewrite your path[09:41:41] *** LizardKing has joined #openindiana[09:45:46] <floogy> No, that was my typo, that put gnu in front of /usr/bin, but yes, there is also /root/.bashrc, but without PATH (only PS1).[09:46:32] <floogy> I'm still curious where comes the PS1 of the su subshell from. I want also turn it into red.[09:47:34] <tsoome> su is using your environment, su - is supposed to simulate full login.[09:47:43] <floogy> There is nothing in /etc/profile, and under /etc/bash there is no bashrc[09:48:41] <floogy> Ah, so it don't uses the PS1 from environment, because the user changed to root, I guess.[09:49:35] <tsoome> you mean, just plain su without - ?[09:50:25] *** spanglywires has joined #openindiana[09:50:51] <floogy> yes, that returns username@openindiana:~# only[09:51:45] <floogy> [2012-01-26, 09:50] username@openindiana:~$ in yellow for username and red for root (su -)[09:53:34] <floogy> Ah, I guess ~/.profile PS1 is overwritten by the PS1 in /home/username/.bashrc[09:53:37] <tsoome> plain su does not read any .profile etc, its just sets euid/egid. so whatever value your PS1 was set on login, the same value is used.[09:55:22] <floogy> Yes, that's it. I forgot to edit PS1 in ~/.bashrc too[09:56:37] <tsoome> tbh, the best way is to set reasonable values in global init files and drop those user ones.[09:56:43] <floogy> Now it works su (only) shows username@openindiana in red now, and the time in front of the prompt [2012-01-26, 09:54][09:57:31] <floogy> su - shows instead of username root (also in red). So now I'm fine with that.[09:58:02] <tsoome> :)[09:59:02] <floogy> Is that as expected to see PS1 defined in both .profile and .bashrc, or did I mangled it up?[10:01:00] <tsoome> just one file is enough. the sun engineer who did set those files in /etc/skel in opensolaris (where OI did inherit that all) was just not thinking at all - and never done any real system admin work.[10:02:18] <tsoome> IMO all you need to have in /etc/skel is commented out examples for case when user feels he needs to build its own env, all defaults should be in globals.[10:02:19] <floogy> I set up yesterday a zfs nfs share on the same folder as the cifs/afp share to connect from sol9 to the oi NAS. But I get permission denied when I try to create a folder in the mounted share.[10:03:08] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[10:03:30] <tsoome> you did not get the permission denied, the user you were using got it;) i assume you were working as root?[10:04:16] <tsoome> man share_nfs and read about anon and root= options;)[10:04:32] <floogy> tsoome, did I understand you right, that one shouldn't use .bashrc and .profile in skel, but instead /etc/profile, and let define .bashrc and .profile the user himself?[10:06:04] <tsoome> well, i give you simple example, i have manages system with 12000 users. sometimes i had to add some new software package and it did create new path to be added into PATH.[10:06:29] *** kenon has quit IRC[10:06:30] <tsoome> 99.999% of those users had no idea at all what is .profile or PATH and so on[10:06:43] <floogy> tsoome, yes, but I did set in sol9 root=clientmachine : {root@SunFireV240}: grep nfs /etc/vfstab[10:06:43] <floogy> openindiana.mydom.local:/Tank/cifs1 - /mnt/oi nfs rw,noquota,root=clientmachine,root=clientmachine no -[10:07:12] <floogy> Or is that wrong at all, or at least must be set on the NAS :P[10:07:31] <tsoome> and no, i wasnt interested on editing manually 12000 .profiles myself ;)[10:08:02] <tsoome> which host is your file server and which host is the client;)[10:08:25] <floogy> tsoome, but that's what skel is for, isn't it?[10:09:26] <tsoome> skel is for files you wanna put into user home, yes. but you need to make sure the content of those files is the correct one.[10:09:32] *** Aengus has quit IRC[10:09:44] <floogy> yes, that's for sure.[10:10:19] <tsoome> mount options for nfs client are in man mount_nfs[10:10:37] <tsoome> there are no root= option for mount.[10:10:42] <tsoome> there is not*[10:10:47] <tsoome> grr[10:10:55] <tsoome> (sorry i cant type:D)[10:11:20] <Agnar> good morning mr. active directory ;)[10:11:28] <tsoome> rofl[10:11:34] <tsoome> /slap Agnar[10:11:42] <Agnar> *duck&cover* :)[10:12:02] <tsoome> anyhow, its time to get disconnected:P[10:12:04] *** tsoome has quit IRC[10:12:12] <floogy> Agnar, You forgot to hide.[10:12:51] <Agnar> one cannot hide from tsoome, one can just try to protect himself ,)[10:13:45] <floogy> That must be true according to my impression.[10:21:42] *** Onno has joined #openindiana[10:22:48] *** Onno has quit IRC[10:24:46] *** Onno has joined #openindiana[10:25:23] *** laogrymt has joined #openindiana[10:26:06] *** robinsmidsrod has quit IRC[10:30:20] <floogy> man mount_nfs|grep root finds nothing[10:32:41] *** robinsmidsrod has joined #openindiana[10:34:36] *** robinsmidsrod has quit IRC[10:34:37] <Agnar> floogy: why should it? root= is just a server option for the shares[10:35:15] *** kshannon has quit IRC[10:35:18] *** robinsmidsrod has joined #openindiana[10:36:10] *** kshannon has joined #openindiana[10:36:26] <Agnar> floogy: maybe mount_nfs silently ignores invalid options, but root= is just a options for share (in /etc/dfs/dfstab or zfs sharenfs) to tell the server that uid0 from this client will be threated as local uid0 and NOT be remapped to nobody as the default is.[10:37:27] <Agnar> usually it's not a good idea to enable the root= option if you have nfs clients that allow root-access to other people than the admins from the nfs server[10:38:25] *** easy-iPad has joined #openindiana[10:39:28] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[10:40:01] <floogy> Ah, ok, so it must be configured in /etc/dfs/dfstab on clientside (sol9)?[10:40:30] <Agnar> no[10:40:34] <floogy> I tried it also with one user, but I get permission denied too[10:40:39] <Agnar> root= is just a server-option[10:40:58] <Agnar> and dfstab is the table on the nfs-server that specifies the shares[10:41:16] <Agnar> floogy: what are you trying to do with this option?[10:41:36] <floogy> So it was completely pointless and stupid to put that option into sol9 (client) vfstab.[10:42:17] <floogy> I noticed, that I can not create a folder in the nfs share on client side.[10:42:51] <tsoome> floogy: bingo;)[10:44:09] <floogy> tsoome, yes I know...[10:44:15] <Agnar> floogy: yes. just try to understand: is it really useful to set security-permissions for a SERVER on each CLIENT?[10:44:45] <Agnar> especially if you have clients that are not operated by the server admins?[10:44:49] *** Seony has joined #openindiana[10:45:15] <tsoome> the thing with nfs is that if server is not restricting anything, then client can mount with more restricted options, like, if server is sharing with RW, the client can force mount with RO. but cthe client cant force more open options - if server is sharing RO, the client cant mount RW.[10:45:32] <Agnar> for that reason you have to export the share on the SERVER with the correct root= option. log in to the nfs server, if zfs to zfs get sharenfs path/to/my/fs and set there the correct root= option[10:45:48] <tsoome> same with authentication methods, same is with root squash (mapping root to nobody)[10:45:49] <floogy> Yes, that's true. I get more and more confused, because I don't get the picture and overview.[10:46:49] <tsoome> second thing an admin needs to think trough is that if you really need to access that share as root.[10:47:16] <floogy> Tank/cifs1 sharenfs on local[10:47:31] <floogy> So I have to set that option, ok.[10:47:56] *** Tenzer_ has joined #openindiana[10:47:58] *** Licenser has quit IRC[10:48:22] <Agnar> floogy: see the man-page for share_nfs for the correct options[10:48:39] <Agnar> floogy: these options are the same for zfs set sharenfs...[10:48:41] <floogy> tsoome, no, that must probably not be the case, but I also tried it as a user[10:49:07] <tsoome> for user your UID/GID must match[10:49:30] <tsoome> solaris 9 does only nfsv3 and it needs username/uid/gid syncking.[10:49:30] *** Tenzer_ has quit IRC[10:49:44] <floogy> tsoome, ok, so that may doesn't fit.[10:51:16] <tsoome> with nfs there is 2 bits related with users, the request authentication, and actual file access check. nfsv3/2 are using *only* uid/gid for access checks. nfsv4 is using usernames, but thats not the case with your s9[10:52:40] <tsoome> authentication defaults to uid (auth_sys or its alias auth_unix), but an be kerberos, in that case the kerberos principals are used instead of uid (and crypto), but in nfsv2 and v3 the actual file access checks are still based on uid/gid only.[10:54:30] <tsoome> and that means your users and their attributes must be in sync across clients and servers - and thats why larger serups are using ldap today (and nis [in past])[10:56:01] <tsoome> setups*[10:56:53] <floogy> Hm, I think that's beyond me at the moment. :([10:57:22] <tsoome> in you have just 1 server and few clients, you can manage that sync manually just fine[10:57:34] <tsoome> no need to overcomplicate things[10:57:41] <floogy> So I have to setup kerberos authentification and ldap on the sol9 client?[10:57:59] <tsoome> no, you dont have to if you dont need[10:58:37] <tsoome> just make sure the same users are defined in both client and server passwd file and their uid/gid are the same[10:59:16] *** Whoopsie has joined #openindiana[10:59:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Whoopsie[11:01:01] *** ironmunk has quit IRC[11:07:30] <floogy> Ok, here's the background: I set up an oi NAS for storage images, mostly for me only, but I want to have the possibility to give access (smb/cifs) for all users in AD. We got a sol9 fileserver with HELIOS ether/pcshare (cifs/afp). All AD users are local installed, most of them got their home directories under /usr (don't know why) the newer ones I created under /export/home/<user>. We got two IFT raids, and a backup d2d sync software,[11:07:30] <floogy> that syncs one raid to the other. the mirror is dead because of a) psu or/and b) raid controller. Now I want to figure out if I can use the NAS over nfs for the sol9. Because the filedb of our backup software was on the defect raid. And I need space to recover it from tapes, or from the disks of the dead raid. We want to buy a bigger raid to exchange the defect one, but I don't know much about server hardware. Also I want to learn an[11:07:31] <floogy> d see what one/I can do with oi on that HP proliant microserver.[11:08:54] <tsoome> sure you can, but you dont need to reshare things from s9 box at all.[11:09:24] <tsoome> because OI can do cifs just fine and afp can be added from netatalk[11:09:53] <tsoome> OI has 2 cifs implementations - in kernel one and samba.[11:10:34] <tsoome> and both can use AD[11:11:27] <floogy> Yes, that cifs/afp works now somewhat, but I got issues to join the domain from time to time. My skills don't yet suffice, and I get easily confused.[11:11:52] <tsoome> ah, i see[11:11:58] <floogy> e.g. I configured mydom.local, but domainname gives mydom.com[11:12:37] <floogy> sol9 doesn't support afp or cifs mounting, afaik.[11:12:49] <tsoome> set correct domain in /etc/defaultdomain[11:12:52] *** spanglywires has quit IRC[11:12:56] <floogy> Therefor I tried to mount it over nfs[11:13:24] <tsoome> yes, but you can share nfs for unix, same share with cifs to windows, and so on[11:14:29] <tsoome> that s9 host is/was basically serving cifs/afp?[11:14:39] <floogy> Yes, that's what I'm trying, or did you mean can't?[11:14:55] <tsoome> you can.[11:15:00] <floogy> s9 serves cifs/afp through HELIOS[11:15:38] <tsoome> for nfs you need to make sure the same users who are in s9 systems are in nfs server as well, and thats it[11:16:10] <tsoome> and if needed, enable root access[11:16:54] <floogy> tsoome, that's also a question for AD. Do I need to manually create all users in AD on the oi NAS to make AD integration work?[11:17:13] <tsoome> thats an good question;)[11:17:44] <tsoome> have you checked man ad[11:18:24] <floogy> But I got one user in AD, OI and s9, but that user get's also permission denied. I guess it's due to different UID/GIDs[11:18:33] <floogy> is it?[11:19:06] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[11:19:06] *** TomJ has joined #openindiana[11:19:18] <tsoome> the AD does not have unix uids by default.[11:19:33] <tsoome> so you can exclude AD from that list for moment[11:20:11] <tsoome> therefore just do grep username /etc/passwd in s9 and nas and make sure they have exact same attributes:)[11:20:17] <floogy> afaik, ad is like dt in HELIOS (dtools) it's only for inform the afp server to write the appropriate meta information to the netatalk db, I guess.[11:20:28] *** Licenser has joined #openindiana[11:20:51] <floogy> For fast searching and resource forks, I guess.[11:21:01] <tsoome> navent seen helios myself, cant comment on that. but for NFS only unix users matter.[11:21:16] *** spanglywires has joined #openindiana[11:21:28] <floogy> Yes, that's for true.[11:21:34] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[11:21:41] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[11:22:35] <floogy> There is idmap to map windows to unix users. netatalk also don't support windows AD, and works with unix users and groups I think.[11:22:55] <tsoome> but for OI AD instgration, there are several options - one is to create local users, just making sure the username is the same as in AD.[11:23:27] <tsoome> you can have local passwords for those users or set up pam to use kerberos (from AD) instead.[11:23:34] <Agnar> sorry, but AFP + AD on Unix sounds like trying to serve kosher vegetarian swine-steak[11:23:51] <tsoome> :D[11:23:54] *** Seony has quit IRC[11:23:58] <floogy> But I think there must be an automatic user management that creates the users and groups from AD/Ldap and maps them automagically, but I can't find it :([11:24:01] <Damjanek> Does anyone have an idea, how to change chassis serial number in Sun Fire X4270?[11:24:10] <Damjanek> Or does it require escalation mode?[11:24:14] <Agnar> wouldn't it be easier to mount the filer via nfs on a mac, and serve AFP from there? ;)[11:24:15] <Damjanek> s/Or/And/[11:24:31] <tsoome> Damjanek: it does require it yes[11:24:39] <Damjanek> Damn.[11:24:50] <tsoome> you need to open service call.[11:25:18] <tsoome> floogy: yes there is actually. im not sure how well it will work tho.[11:25:18] <Damjanek> My warranty for those servers expired some time ago.[11:25:20] *** master_of_master has joined #openindiana[11:25:40] <Damjanek> And forgot to take care of that, when it was still valid.[11:26:14] <tsoome> the AD has something called like unix schema, which will add uid/gid/home etc attributes into AD, and solaris ldap bits can use those.[11:26:16] <floogy> Agnar, in our IT Department everything is probably better then the situation we're in.[11:27:12] <tsoome> but it also means the AD user manager needs to fill those attributes with correct values[11:29:17] *** easy-iPad has quit IRC[11:29:21] <floogy> We're running 'unmaintained' servers :P the management should subscibe at long last a support contract.[11:30:06] <tsoome> anyhow, did you managed to fix the uid/gid and can access your nfs share now?:P[11:30:27] <floogy> tadaa, yes AD is relatively unmaintained too. :([11:30:33] *** easy-iPad has joined #openindiana[11:32:19] *** Seony has joined #openindiana[11:32:19] <floogy> tsoome, so these unix uid/gid should be maintained in windows AD to get windows/cifs and unix/nfs/afp working well together?[11:32:36] <tsoome> no, its just one option.[11:32:56] <tsoome> you can have local users instead and that should do just fine as well.[11:33:12] <tsoome> *if* you have all needed users defined.[11:33:13] <floogy> Yes, one can also manage both manually, or what option do you measn?[11:33:29] <floogy> yes[11:37:07] <floogy> In s9 I got floogy:x:539:503: under oi I got floogy:x:103:10. How can I change that in oi, to fit that to s9?[11:37:36] *** ironmunk has joined #openindiana[11:38:09] *** n2deep has quit IRC[11:38:34] <floogy> on s9 we got 91 lines in /etc/passwd[11:39:25] *** heldus has quit IRC[11:41:55] *** easy-iPad has quit IRC[11:48:56] <floogy> I guess I have to change also the UID/GID of some files the user already created, with chmod, when altering UID/GID by usermod?[11:49:17] <floogy> s/chmod/chown/[11:56:10] *** hajma_ has quit IRC[11:57:25] *** hajma_ has joined #openindiana[12:00:37] *** heldus has joined #openindiana[12:01:32] *** ajkno has quit IRC[12:05:49] <tsoome> yes indeed[12:06:29] <floogy> groupadd -g 503 macusers && usermod -g 503 -u 539 floogy[12:06:38] <tsoome> and you dont need to copy over system users;)[12:07:14] *** ajkno has joined #openindiana[12:08:24] <floogy> Ooops the whole files in /Tank got the older UID/GID. So I have to change them all?[12:08:53] <floogy> system users?[12:11:54] <floogy> tsoome -u 539 is a system user?[12:12:07] *** darth_raijin is now known as denkijin[12:12:54] <tsoome> no[12:13:14] <tsoome> uids 0-100 and gids 0-100 are reserved for system users[12:13:54] <floogy> Sorry, I didn't understand that I don't need to copy over system user.[12:14:22] <floogy> Ah, ok, yes. I will try to avoid that :D[12:14:22] <tsoome> basically you server is used by "normal" users and maybe by root.[12:17:09] *** _404_Error_ has joined #openindiana[12:28:59] *** raichoo has quit IRC[12:31:03] *** Seony has quit IRC[12:34:16] <floogy> zfs get sharenfs /Tank/cifs1 gives Tank/cifs1 sharenfs on local, but I ran zfs unshare -a[12:35:51] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[12:36:19] *** laogrymt has quit IRC[12:37:19] *** laogrymt__ has joined #openindiana[12:38:51] <floogy> Finally I could create a directory by a user on that nfs share.[12:43:39] *** jw_urodoc2 has quit IRC[12:48:02] *** jw_urodoc2 has joined #openindiana[12:51:51] *** TomJ_ has joined #openindiana[12:52:35] *** TomJ has quit IRC[12:52:37] *** TomJ_ has quit IRC[12:52:37] *** TomJ_ has joined #openindiana[13:04:06] <tsoome> gratz;)[13:05:09] *** laogrymt__ has quit IRC[13:15:47] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[13:15:51] *** JStoker has quit IRC[13:17:42] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[13:17:42] *** bgeek has quit IRC[13:17:42] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[13:17:42] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[13:27:29] *** Licenser_ has joined #openindiana[13:28:30] *** Licenser has quit IRC[13:28:31] *** Licenser_ is now known as Licenser[13:30:48] *** bgeek has joined #openindiana[13:30:48] *** bgeek has joined #openindiana[13:32:33] *** JStoker has joined #openindiana[13:37:30] *** POloser has left #openindiana[13:48:03] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[13:50:52] *** kenon has quit IRC[13:50:57] *** joshie has joined #openindiana[13:55:39] *** keremet has left #openindiana[13:58:09] *** jMCg has quit IRC[14:01:15] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[14:03:05] *** jMCg has joined #openindiana[14:04:28] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[14:09:06] *** Wilbs has joined #openindiana[14:12:56] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[14:17:03] *** enmand_ has joined #openindiana[14:17:10] *** denkijin is now known as darth_raijin[14:17:17] *** enmand has quit IRC[14:26:51] *** enmand_ has quit IRC[14:50:58] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[14:50:58] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[14:54:27] *** CoilDomain has joined #openindiana[15:04:58] *** ira has joined #openindiana[15:05:03] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[15:14:03] <Wraithhh> How do I get a backtrace or something else useful from /rpool/dump?[15:14:11] <Wraithhh> (after a crash that is)[15:14:44] *** monta-` has joined #openindiana[15:21:01] *** Botanic has quit IRC[15:21:20] <sensille> savecire[15:21:26] <sensille> *savecore[15:21:57] <sensille> and then you should have files under /var/crash[15:22:13] *** Wilbs has quit IRC[15:22:16] <sensille> which you can load into mdb[15:27:03] <Wraithhh> savecore: bad magic number 0[15:27:04] <Wraithhh> hmm[15:28:37] <sensille> do you have crashdumps under /var/crash?[15:28:55] <sensille> savecore should be part of the regular boot procedure anyway[15:29:05] <Wraithhh> /var/crash doesn't seem to exist[15:29:32] <Wraithhh> the dumpadm service shows as online though[15:29:44] <sensille> if not, have a look at the console messages if the save procedure bailed out with an error[15:31:14] <Wraithhh> nothing in the log at least[15:32:02] *** Shep_Book has joined #openindiana[15:32:05] <Wraithhh> Do I need to enable the dumps somehow or should they be on by default?[15:32:20] <sensille> console log or syslog?[15:32:55] <floogy> How can I see the network throughput?[15:33:35] *** alcir has quit IRC[15:33:48] <Tenzer> Wraithhh: Try to run "dumpadm" and check that savecore is enabled[15:34:12] <Wraithhh> Savecore enabled: no[15:35:48] <Tenzer> You can enable it with "dumpadm -y", I think[15:36:22] <Wraithhh> looks better now[15:36:29] <Wraithhh> so now just wait for the next crash? 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I'm building jdk6 now and had to patch one .c file for it to compile. That surprised me a lot.[22:05:33] <myrkraverk> Is the OI JDK in any way different from the one available at java.net ?[22:06:41] <Triskelios> I think saablover did some work on OpenJDK but never integrated it[22:07:12] <myrkraverk> Aww.[22:07:54] <myrkraverk> One thing I came across earlier is that it seems impossible to dtrace java code in OI - not even with sun java.[22:08:14] <myrkraverk> I never got around to file a report - I should do that this weekend at the latest.[22:08:37] <Triskelios> we *should* be shipping OpenJDK, but we aren't[22:10:01] *** enmand has quit IRC[22:10:20] <myrkraverk> Ah.[22:11:15] <myrkraverk> Well, I'm currently building openjdk 6 now - I wanted a debug build. I might as well report patches to the mailing list - or somewhere appropriate.[22:11:28] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[22:11:48] <floogy> Hi, will zfs sharenfs log to /var/adm/messages by default?[22:12:04] *** jw_urodoc has quit IRC[22:12:54] <floogy> Because the sync software gives write error on target (that's the oi nfs server).[22:13:39] <floogy> grep nfs finds nothing[22:13:51] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[22:15:22] <MrSambo> Hello...Use question: Is is possible to create another crossbow nic from within an OI_151 exclusive IP zone? Bridges?[22:15:32] <floogy> ggrep -r nfs /var/adm/|grep -v afp gives also nothing...[22:21:20] <MrSambo> Is this the Dev forum? Am I in the wrong place?[22:27:04] *** pothos_ has joined #openindiana[22:27:27] *** MrSambo has left #openindiana[22:28:40] <Triskelios> you can't create interfaces inside a non-global zone[22:29:15] *** pothos has quit IRC[22:30:18] *** pothos_ has quit IRC[22:30:37] *** pothos has joined #openindiana[22:33:17] *** pothos has quit IRC[22:33:36] *** pothos has joined #openindiana[22:37:38] *** raichoo has quit IRC[22:51:25] <myrkraverk> What tool is it that does network/wifi detection in gnome? I want to get rid of gnome (it interferes with the keybindings I want to use in emacs).[22:51:56] <myrkraverk> Can I use something like fvwm and still have that wifi/network detection tool running?[22:52:34] *** elgar has quit IRC[22:52:34] <Triskelios> /usr/lib/nwam-manager[22:54:19] <floogy> Hi, our sync software only writes empty files with zero bytes and GID -rw-rw-rw- 1 525 macusers 0 Jan 1 1970 e-mail-liste.doc[22:55:05] <floogy> Is this due to the lack of the right users and groups on the nfs server?[22:55:29] <floogy> But: drwxrwsrwx 3 root root 4 Apr 26 2005 Network Trash Folder[22:58:01] *** Seony has quit IRC[23:08:49] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[23:12:01] *** kenon has quit IRC[23:13:37] *** spanglywires_ has quit IRC[23:22:51] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[23:25:21] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[23:33:38] *** gea has joined #openindiana[23:44:51] *** russiane39 has quit IRC[23:46:02] *** StyleWarz is now known as fbettag[23:46:03] *** russiane39 has joined #openindiana[23:55:19] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[23:56:06] *** CoilDomain has quit IRC[23:57:57] *** kenon has quit IRC