January 24, 2012 
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January 24, 2012 [00:01:45] <descipher> There is a port of chromium out there. It was targeting solaris11 but should work on OI[00:02:13] <alanc> the one I remember was being offered by someone who was charging for it, not sure a free port was ever made available[00:03:19] <descipher> http://chromium.hybridsource.org/notes[00:04:26] <richlowe> The ultimate answer is "Use a desktop OS on your desktop"[00:04:53] *** kenon has quit IRC[00:04:55] <richlowe> though I do miss having any reason to give alanc hell.[00:06:01] <alanc> I'm sure you can still find some[00:06:11] <joffe> i guess, but i wanna be different and special richlowe[00:06:39] <descipher> Yep, why poke yourself in the eye. Browsers are not good to run on a server OS. Poke poke[00:06:48] <joffe> *shows off pink toe rings*[00:06:48] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[00:06:51] <alanc> that reminds me, I have a userland fix to integrate[00:07:04] <joffe> i like poking myself in the eye.[00:07:22] <joffe> i dont need something that works ideally, i just want to play around with something different.[00:07:35] <joffe> besides i have 2008.11 still running on a NAS type thing[00:07:42] <joffe> maybe time to get ready to renovate that one[00:08:06] <alanc> that's the wonder of working on X11 & graphics drivers, you get to not only hurt your own eyes, but everyone else's too![00:08:31] <alanc> especially the font software[00:09:16] <richlowe> The client/server model, and asynchrony, also makes it a bear to debug when anything complicated goes wrong.[00:11:06] <richlowe> "put a breakpoint in _XError, call XSynchronize from gdb"[00:12:12] <floogy> Hi, got problems with the upgrade. My usb pen is full: OSError: [Errno 28] No space left on device: '/var/pkg/tmpfL7CmB'[00:12:55] <floogy> I upgraded in a new BE. What can I do? Delete that BE and also another one and retry?[00:13:57] <floogy> Or should I rollback or something special?[00:14:03] <Damjanek> I'd suggest "get more free space".[00:14:49] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[00:15:06] <floogy> And then? retry? Will that resolve the error at that particular stage?[00:15:47] <Damjanek> remove old snapshots and stuff.[00:16:05] <Damjanek> You're installing OI on pendrive?[00:18:48] *** danders5 has quit IRC[00:19:51] *** hajma has quit IRC[00:20:14] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[00:21:25] <floogy> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/539533/ I guess I have to reduce the swap space..[00:22:02] <richlowe> zfs list would be more demonstrative[00:23:15] *** hajma has quit IRC[00:23:15] *** brougham has quit IRC[00:23:45] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[00:24:22] *** brougham has joined #openindiana[00:24:32] <floogy> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/539535/ I want to move the swap to the zpool. How can I do that?[00:24:54] <richlowe> swap is on the zpool[00:25:26] <richlowe> if you mean "The other zpool", remove swap, delete rpool1/swap, zfs create -V2.6G Tank/swap, edit /etc/vfstab, swapadd[00:26:03] <richlowe> "remove swap" would be swap -d <device in vfstab>[00:26:09] <floogy> so rpool and zpool is the same thing?[00:28:26] <Damjanek> rpool is root zpool[00:31:07] <[noc]> richlowe: thanks for the help the other day, OI has been rocksolid since :D[00:31:15] <richlowe> awesome :)[00:41:41] *** swa_work has quit IRC[00:50:42] <floogy> I got some space freed. Can I now reissue simply the formerly failed command pfexec pkg update --be-name OI_151.1.1_prestable ?[00:53:05] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[00:54:38] <floogy> I'll destroyed that BE and retry with the same command.[00:55:18] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[01:06:52] *** man_u_ has joined #openindiana[01:07:33] *** xenol_ has joined #openindiana[01:08:22] <Patrickdk> hmm, with scrub only uses a single cpu?[01:09:05] *** odyi` has joined #openindiana[01:09:46] *** odyi has quit IRC[01:09:47] *** xenol has quit IRC[01:09:47] *** Woodstock has quit IRC[01:09:47] *** Woodstock has joined #openindiana[01:09:47] *** man_u has quit IRC[01:09:47] *** man_u_ is now known as man_u[01:10:04] *** odyi` is now known as odyi[01:10:44] *** odyi has quit IRC[01:10:44] *** odyi has joined #openindiana[01:12:48] *** cpny_ has joined #openindiana[01:13:39] <richlowe> given the effort gone to to make scrub not starve anything legit of I/O, I'm not sure any kind of increased parallelism would be good?[01:14:22] <richlowe> also, would it really help, given we either read as fast as we can, or deliberately don't read as fast as we can to give someone else a chance?[01:14:35] *** JT-EC_ has joined #openindiana[01:15:02] <[noc]> newb question.. if I want to check for updates in the server version do I run 'pkg update' ? It always says there aren't any which I guess could be true but I'd think that after a couple months there might be SOMETHING updated[01:15:10] <Patrickdk> heh, well my harddrives are 80% idle :)[01:15:20] *** HyperJohnGraham_ has joined #openindiana[01:15:28] <Patrickdk> noc, running oi151? no updates[01:15:34] <[noc]> k thanks[01:15:37] <[noc]> just wanted to make sure[01:15:44] *** noahmehl has quit IRC[01:15:48] *** master_o1_master has joined #openindiana[01:15:50] <[noc]> so pkg update is correct though rgiht?[01:15:58] *** GHAI_ has joined #openindiana[01:16:06] *** axisys_ has joined #openindiana[01:16:17] *** cpny has quit IRC[01:16:17] *** HyperJohnGraham has quit IRC[01:16:17] *** JT-EC has quit IRC[01:16:17] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[01:16:17] *** axisys has quit IRC[01:16:17] *** GHAI has quit IRC[01:16:48] *** HyperJohnGraham_ is now known as HyperJohnGraham[01:21:48] *** Woodstock has quit IRC[01:21:48] *** Woodstock has joined #openindiana[01:23:41] *** [Guy] has joined #openindiana[01:26:28] *** PiotrSikora has quit IRC[01:26:28] *** Guy- has quit IRC[01:26:29] *** [Guy] is now known as Guy-[01:27:50] *** PiotrSikora has joined #openindiana[01:33:15] *** joffe has quit IRC[01:38:58] *** brougham has quit IRC[01:40:20] *** brougham has joined #openindiana[01:40:33] <floogy> why didn't appear the last bash commands in the history of the upgraded BE?[01:42:20] *** init3 has quit IRC[01:42:24] <floogy> Is this due to the use of reboot instead of init 6, and I will also not be able to find them in the old BE?[01:42:51] <Triskelios> is your home dir on its own filesystem?[01:42:55] *** noahmehl has joined #openindiana[01:43:13] <nahamu> reboot probably kills the running shell ungracefully.[01:43:41] <nahamu> wait, ignore that statement[01:44:11] <floogy> nahanu, that is what I thought. Triskelios, no it's on rpool1.[01:44:29] <floogy> nahamu, why?[01:44:35] <nahamu> are we talking about root or a different user?[01:44:44] <floogy> yes root[01:45:00] <richlowe> in this instance, where it is on rpool1 matters.[01:45:04] <richlowe> oh, because it's on the root fs[01:45:10] <richlowe> so it's cloned as part of the BE[01:45:14] <richlowe> and the BE was cloned before the last N commands.[01:45:36] <nahamu> and probably before root's shell wrote out an updated history file[01:46:13] *** init3 has joined #openindiana[01:46:16] <nahamu> everything from that entire shell session should be missing from the new BE. I'd be curious if the old BE has that shell history.[01:47:47] <floogy> nahamu, I guess it's gone, also on the other BE, due to ungraceful exit of the shell, or exit after cloning.[01:48:50] <floogy> Can I mount that BE to have a look?[01:48:58] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[01:49:39] *** MfldElton has joined #openindiana[01:50:29] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[01:50:47] <floogy> beadm list shows that they are really old, it's a pitty.[01:52:09] *** kenon has quit IRC[01:57:17] <floogy> Would init 6 save .bash_history rather then reboot? Or got they the same behaviour? I think like richlowe said, the history was saved after finishing the snapshot.. So it was saved to the older BE, and that was changed since the beadm list snapshot time? Will reboot to the old BE and see... Don't understand that BE/Snapshot thing yet.[01:58:49] <_Tenchi_> cant you mount the other BE without rebooting?[02:01:01] <floogy> I think yes, but I don't know how...[02:02:30] <_Tenchi_> beadm mount <mountpoint> :)[02:03:06] <_Tenchi_> unless im overlooking something, you should just be able to mount the BE if it's not currently active[02:05:35] <floogy> _Tenchi_, I already rebooted. The history keeps the state of 3rd of january, like the other does. I got a backup of the history of the 18th of january, though.[02:06:04] *** brougham has quit IRC[02:06:11] <_Tenchi_> sorry i havent been following the whole conversation, came in kinda late[02:06:32] *** jw_urodoc has quit IRC[02:06:37] *** brougham has joined #openindiana[02:06:48] <floogy> Anyway I'll try to mount that BE, just to see how that goes...[02:07:10] *** jw_urodoc has joined #openindiana[02:07:38] *** n2deep_ has quit IRC[02:08:48] *** pjama has quit IRC[02:09:02] *** ismell has quit IRC[02:09:34] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[02:13:23] *** enmand has quit IRC[02:15:28] *** Shep_Book has quit IRC[02:15:33] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[02:16:08] *** ismell has joined #openindiana[02:17:02] <floogy> Hm, why is in the older BE /export/home/ empty, and in /root only .bashrc and profile?[02:18:13] <floogy> But when I reboot into that BE these directories are not empty?[02:18:48] <Triskelios> because /export/home is usually a separate filesystem[02:18:54] <Triskelios> not part of the BE[02:20:09] <floogy> Triskelios, thank you for that explanation, yes /root ist the same. It's only /export/home, that is affected.[02:21:55] *** ismell has quit IRC[02:22:04] <floogy> Triskelios, So I have to manage snapshots for /export separately.[02:22:35] <Triskelios> well, naturally software upgrades shouldn't affect your data[02:22:51] <floogy> Yes, that makes sense.[02:23:07] *** ismell has joined #openindiana[02:23:57] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[02:25:59] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[02:27:36] <floogy> So, that I miss my last commands in bash history is due to reboot. init 6 works, because it appeares like exit or logout in .bash_history, but I can't find reboot.[02:30:31] *** kimc has joined #openindiana[02:30:31] *** kimc has quit IRC[02:30:31] *** kimc has joined #openindiana[02:35:37] *** Orii has joined #openindiana[02:36:56] *** ismell has quit IRC[02:40:07] *** ismell has joined #openindiana[02:49:11] *** brougham has quit IRC[02:55:10] *** Orii has quit IRC[02:56:24] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[02:56:28] *** brougham has joined #openindiana[03:02:31] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[03:08:05] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[03:10:56] *** kenon has quit IRC[03:12:13] *** Patrickdk has quit IRC[03:14:08] *** Patrickdk has joined #openindiana[03:29:39] *** POloser has joined #openindiana[03:32:05] <Patrickdk> hmm, I can't get vlans to work[03:32:17] <Patrickdk> I have e1000g0 and e1000g0vl4[03:32:35] <Patrickdk> but everything keeps using the vlan4 port, instead of the default vlan (1)[03:38:08] <Patrickdk> heh, stupid me :)[03:46:43] *** akelling has joined #openindiana[03:51:37] <Patrickdk> hmm, I wonder if the nic on this motherboard just sucks or what[03:51:51] <Patrickdk> installed a new nic, that does jumboframes, cause I thought that was my speed issue[03:52:00] <Patrickdk> but it goes twice as fast, even without jumbo frames[03:55:17] <MrWGW> anyone using kvm?[03:55:22] <MrWGW> I'm curious how well it runs[03:56:55] <bdha> Pretty well.[03:57:15] <bdha> There were a couple gotchas at first, but it's evening out quite well.[03:57:38] <bdha> Disk I/O isn't great, but that's kind of expected.[03:57:50] <bdha> (for some value of not great that's still better than, say, EBS)[03:58:10] <bdha> (not an apples to apples comparison obviously)[04:01:02] <MrWGW> was that ported over from SmartOS?[04:01:12] <MrWGW> I'd personally rather use openindiana vs. smartos since I prefer IPS[04:01:18] <MrWGW> and also SmartOS is a pain to initially install[04:01:27] <MrWGW> but their vmadm tool looked sexeh[04:01:36] <richlowe> kvm is there, vm* aren't.[04:01:52] <richlowe> and smartos is not even somewhat difficult to install initially, it's just that the initial install is not entirely useful.[04:01:53] <bdha> SmartOS isn't meant to be installed.[04:01:57] <richlowe> it also doesn't _preclude_ the use of IPS[04:02:03] *** xtort- has quit IRC[04:02:08] <richlowe> my local copy supports ipkg zones in a way that's theoretically evil, but suits me.[04:02:14] <bdha> richlowe: haha.[04:02:22] <bdha> richlowe: You should document that.[04:03:07] <richlowe> the evil makes it not entirely worth documenting, it's in effect a full-root joyent brand.[04:03:17] <richlowe> it's just more convenient to give it a new name, overall.[04:03:21] <richlowe> (for vmadm reasons)[04:03:43] <richlowe> it just happens that the image it clones is a minimal, very minorly custom, OI install.[04:03:52] <MrWGW> richlowe: could the vmadm tools be installed on openindiana?[04:03:59] <MrWGW> I should think so since its presumably binary compatible with smartos[04:04:01] <richlowe> I think they could, but the people who've tried have failed.[04:04:12] <richlowe> binary shouldn't matter, it's all javascript.[04:04:36] <MrWGW> so I already have a working openindiana install[04:04:41] <bdha> richlowe: Saying that to someone who doesn't know about node would probably blow their mind.[04:04:45] <MrWGW> could I setup a smartos image on it and boot into it?[04:04:59] <MrWGW> bdha: I'm familiar with node.js[04:05:13] <MrWGW> I'm a bit baffled as to why vmadm wouldn't work on openindiana in that case[04:05:34] <bdha> I'm trying to think why it would fail.[04:05:41] <bdha> You'd need /usbkey/config... but what else?[04:06:01] <MrWGW> btw do any of you use ldoms?[04:06:14] <MrWGW> I was struck by how similiar smartos looked to a hardened sparc solaris install running ldoms[04:06:45] *** xtort- has joined #openindiana[04:07:26] <bdha> MrWGW: Someone at rm's talk at SCALE made the same comparison.[04:07:40] <bdha> rm's response was "I've never actually gotten to use SPARC." :)[04:08:47] <bdha> richlowe: If you created a new zone type for ipkg... that's actually kind of a useful thing.[04:08:53] <bdha> richlowe: Do BEs work?[04:09:22] <bdha> richlowe: We could distribute the base image ("dataset") and bug John into incorporating the brand.[04:09:31] <bdha> It would be cool.[04:09:57] <bdha> At least tell me what you've done. I want to play with it. :)[04:10:07] *** _wilsonkk_ has quit IRC[04:10:11] <MrWGW> bdha: that was me actually amusingly neough[04:10:18] <bdha> MrWGW: Well, then. :)[04:10:22] * bdha was only watching the stream.[04:10:55] <richlowe> bdha: can't make BE's for ipkg zones work without making our beadm know about zones in general.[04:11:00] <richlowe> which nobody has.[04:11:03] <bdha> One of the hypothetical cool uses of LDOMs was having a dedicated firewall on the box... ie, running OpenBSD on a dedicated NIC.[04:11:16] <bdha> I've been thinking about that for SmartOS, so I could have something like EC2's security groups.[04:11:29] <bdha> (which a bunch of VNIC/VLAN and iptables magic, I think)[04:11:55] <bdha> richlowe: For some reason I thought the IPS gate was still open.[04:11:59] <richlowe> bdha: it is.[04:12:02] <bdha> beadm isn't in IPS?[04:12:03] <richlowe> bdha: beadm is in ON[04:12:05] <bdha> oh.[04:12:09] <bdha> ah, well.[04:12:14] <bdha> I still think it'd be a useful brand.[04:12:39] <richlowe> I haven't had cause to discover what IPS does about the inability to have BEs[04:12:45] <richlowe> it should be smart, but anecdotally, it may not be[04:12:53] <richlowe> does what I need, though.[04:13:02] <richlowe> and saves me from caring about the pkgsrc weirdness.[04:13:04] <richlowe> more importantly[04:13:07] <MrWGW> I'm chatting to you form an openbsd ldom btw[04:13:17] <bdha> :P[04:13:27] <bdha> richlowe: Yes, that's why I am interested...[04:13:27] <MrWGW> no really[04:13:40] <MrWGW> OpenBSD IRC-1.EQ.LAX-01.wgwilkins.net 4.7 GENERIC.MP#287 sparc64[04:13:49] <bdha> richlowe: Throw up the brand directory on dev.joyent?[04:13:53] <MrWGW> its in Equinix too for added pwnage[04:13:54] <bdha> MrWGW: Nice.[04:14:00] <richlowe> bdha: sec.[04:14:05] <richlowe> bdha: it really is _dead_ simple[04:14:15] <richlowe> you could have done it by now :)[04:14:33] <richlowe> ... except for that bit where I split it between trees[04:15:26] <bdha> Is that a euphemism?[04:15:38] <bdha> It honestly hadn't occurred to me.[04:15:47] <bdha> Can you put the dataset up too for extra me-lazy?[04:16:05] <richlowe> if I don't suck, that bit shouldn't be necessary.[04:16:11] <richlowe> I'd rather learn whether I suck :)[04:16:23] <bdha> Huh. 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keys file if you are not using it.[12:43:22] <tsoome> for kerberos, check if your domain in resolv.conf is the same as used in kerberos service setup.[12:43:47] *** ironmunk has joined #openindiana[12:44:21] <tsoome> if not, fix either resolv.conf or krb5.conf (define realm and/or servers manually - default is to discover by using dns domain)[12:47:57] <floogy> Thank you. I'll look into it. Another Question: I use a windows application called Console2 with cygwin/bash. I'm connected through ssh to oi and I go issues with clearing and scrolling the console output. sometimes old lines are mixing with the new ones and clear doesn't help really only for a few lines. That's disturbing.[12:48:46] *** jedi4ever has quit IRC[12:49:30] *** jedi4ever has joined #openindiana[12:49:34] <tsoome> try putty and see if it's behaving ok. if it is, then your console2 is just buggy....[12:50:19] <floogy> Then I have to scroll back to the ground and clear again to get rid of old lines. The curser doesn't jump at the end of the scrollbar/console If I press enter. It sticks somewhere in the middle between the older lines. That way older lines and new lines are no longer readable.[12:50:47] <floogy> tsoomy, thank you. I'll try that too.[12:52:32] *** jedi4ever has quit IRC[12:52:58] *** jedi4ever has joined #openindiana[12:57:51] *** |ntz| has quit IRC[12:59:07] *** jedi4ever has quit IRC[12:59:34] *** jedi4ever has joined #openindiana[13:02:17] <floogy> tsoomy DNS lookup of the two dc works: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/539876/[13:04:20] <floogy> brb, out to lunch[13:05:34] *** darth_raijin is now known as killchill[13:05:46] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[13:06:11] *** killchill is now known as darth_raijin[13:06:58] *** darth_raijin is now known as killchill[13:09:38] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[13:10:06] *** jedi4ever has quit IRC[13:10:59] *** kenon has quit IRC[13:11:14] *** jedi4ever has joined #openindiana[13:15:45] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[13:19:57] *** |ntz| has joined #openindiana[13:20:09] *** hajma_ has joined #openindiana[13:27:24] *** |ntz| has quit IRC[13:29:34] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[13:29:41] *** POloser has left #openindiana[13:30:55] *** laogrymt has joined #openindiana[13:31:49] *** jMCg has quit IRC[13:32:31] *** jMCg has joined #openindiana[13:32:33] *** jMCg has joined #openindiana[13:37:16] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[13:37:59] *** Licenser has quit IRC[13:45:46] *** Licenser has joined #openindiana[13:51:49] *** [1]kimc has joined #openindiana[13:53:59] *** kimc has quit IRC[13:53:59] *** [1]kimc is now known as kimc[13:55:46] *** keremet has left #openindiana[14:01:31] *** jedi4ever has quit IRC[14:07:52] *** Wilbs has joined #openindiana[14:07:56] <floogy> tsoome, Hi, here is my /etc/resolv.conf http://paste.pocoo.org/show/539912/[14:08:04] *** SH0x has quit IRC[14:10:02] *** SH0x has joined #openindiana[14:10:17] <floogy> /etc/krb5/krb5.conf http://paste.pocoo.org/show/539914/[14:10:49] <floogy> Ooops, s/HWG/MY/[14:15:27] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[14:15:56] *** jw_urodoc_ has joined #openindiana[14:18:21] <tsoome> btw, domain should always be before search, in your case it doesnt matter, since you have just 1 domain in search anyhow[14:19:50] <tsoome> can you get tickets from your kerberos?[14:23:48] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[14:25:02] *** [1]kimc has joined #openindiana[14:26:23] *** kimc has quit IRC[14:26:23] *** [1]kimc is now known as kimc[14:26:27] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[14:30:54] *** dvx has quit IRC[14:45:33] *** LadySerena has joined #openindiana[14:51:54] *** CoilDomain has joined #openindiana[14:52:16] *** Wilbs has quit IRC[14:55:36] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[14:58:18] <floogy> tsoome, yes I think: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/539943/[14:58:45] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[14:59:19] <tsoome> yep.[14:59:24] <floogy> Regarding console2 and cygwin scrollback buffer behaviour I found this: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.cygwin/128704[14:59:48] <floogy> And https://sourceforge.net/projects/console/forums/forum/143117/topic/4949383 and https://sourceforge.net/projects/console/forums/forum/143117/topic/4389253[14:59:57] <floogy> putty works fine.[15:06:55] *** DrLou_ has joined #openindiana[15:06:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrLou_[15:07:02] <floogy> tsoome, does it matter that the second dc 192.168.70.5 got no DNS? It's not in the resolve.conf[15:08:27] <tsoome> resolv.conf only lists dns servers you are using[15:08:46] <tsoome> it has nothing to do with fact if the names are resolvable or not.[15:09:29] <floogy> So it may be a missconfigured AD dc?[15:10:11] <Agnar> (without knowing the real problem, but according to the rfc's a DNS server must be able to resolve himself via DNS. So A and PTR record must fit)[15:10:54] *** jedi4ever has joined #openindiana[15:12:15] <floogy> Yes, indeed, dig shows, that the dc with the DNS could not be found with it's hostname[15:12:38] *** Infin1ty has joined #openindiana[15:12:55] <Infin1ty> anyone knows if the Intel NetEffect NE020 are compatible with oi_151? is it possible to use RDMA with those?[15:15:17] <Infin1ty> I'm upgrading the network and servers that use my zfs server (only nfs), and have to choose new adapters for them, i saw the neteffect also have rdma, could not find much info regarding opensolaris/openindiana with those[15:15:21] <Infin1ty> only linux :([15:15:24] <floogy> Agnar, err typo. It can resolve itself. really disturbing these cluttererd terminals[15:15:48] <Agnar> floogy: ok, then I'll remain quiet :)[15:18:29] <floogy> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/539955/[15:36:34] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[15:39:17] *** kenon has quit IRC[15:39:39] *** elgar has joined #openindiana[15:42:04] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[15:42:05] *** patdk-wk has quit IRC[15:42:54] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[15:43:47] <floogy> If I try to synchronize oi with the dc I get ntpdate[7328]: no server suitable for synchronization found[15:47:28] <tsoome> what server is on ntp.conf ?[15:47:46] <tsoome> getent hosts servername[15:48:35] *** calmh- has quit IRC[15:48:50] *** calmh has joined #openindiana[15:48:56] <tsoome> also note the nslookup/host/dig will work directly with libresolv, to test name resolver for apps, there is getent command.[15:50:06] *** patdk-wk has joined #openindiana[15:51:31] <tsoome> in short, check if your nsswitch.conf does have dns and if needed, pkill nscd (or svcadm if you like that better)[15:52:21] *** kart_ has quit IRC[15:56:10] <floogy> in /etc/inet/ntp.conf there are servers of ntp.org, but not the dc. e.g. server pool.ntp.org[15:56:21] *** tsoome has quit IRC[15:57:47] *** alanc has joined #openindiana[15:57:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[15:59:02] <floogy> nsswitch.conf: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/539981/[15:59:23] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[16:00:57] *** Wilbs has joined #openindiana[16:00:59] *** jedi4ever has quit IRC[16:04:22] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[16:06:15] *** Wilbs has quit IRC[16:09:30] *** Shep_Book has joined #openindiana[16:13:38] *** kenon has quit IRC[16:15:37] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[16:15:57] *** killchill is now known as darth_raijin[16:18:19] *** Shep_Book has quit IRC[16:18:43] *** TomJ has quit IRC[16:20:32] *** Shep_Book has joined #openindiana[16:41:07] <floogy> I want to add oi as an additional storage to the AD. 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tried to install SUNWswmt along with some otherSUNW packages to satisfy dependencies for oracle 11g but I am told SUNWswmt is not in the current catalog - any hints for a n00b?[20:30:18] <willie> oi_151a i86pc running in KVM on Centos[20:31:38] <Tenzer> willie: What is the SUNWswmt package supposed to contain?[20:32:01] <willie> wish I knew...[20:32:56] <willie> libmawt.so is what oracle installer complained about not seeing[20:33:32] <willie> http://handsonoracle.com/?p=22 is what I followed to try to resolve the problem[20:33:48] <Tenzer> http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/info/0/SUNWswmt%400.5.11%2C5.11-0.130%3A20091219T035316Z - Hmm, not really a whole lot of information there[20:34:31] * willie looks[20:34:49] * willie agrees :-([20:36:54] <Meths> You should be able to install that and it should work its way through SUNWpkgcmds to package/svr4[20:37:57] <Tenzer> It seems like it just want to install a whole lot of consolidations when I do a 'pkg install -nv SUNWswmt'[20:38:33] <Tenzer> Oh, wait. It probably wouldn't[20:38:59] <Tenzer> It could be because of a debug version of PKG running on the machine I just check on[20:40:18] *** raichoo has quit IRC[20:41:58] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[20:49:14] *** papertigers has joined #openindiana[20:49:27] <RoyK> wtf! my nexsan vendor tells me "nexsan systems are based on zfs" - wouldn't it be rather curious to base something on zfs and then have no relation to illumos?[20:49:49] <Hurri> Not really.[20:49:56] <Hurri> They might be using a FreeBSD base, for example.[20:50:09] <xenol> or linux (though that vendor would be crazy)[20:53:59] <RoyK> guess I'll have to unplug those drives and check what's on them if I can have a test system - I don't trust those guys...[20:54:53] *** jurikm has joined #openindiana[21:12:21] *** ThothCrimson has quit IRC[21:12:58] <patdk-wk> heh[21:16:08] *** descipher has quit IRC[21:17:33] *** jurikm has left #openindiana[21:21:02] *** flyz has quit IRC[21:27:48] *** kimc has joined #openindiana[21:27:48] *** kimc has quit IRC[21:27:48] *** kimc has joined #openindiana[22:00:30] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[22:00:45] *** McBofh has quit IRC[22:03:21] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[22:07:55] *** raichoo has quit IRC[22:08:52] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[22:10:09] *** kforbz has quit IRC[22:10:51] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[22:10:58] *** girafe has joined #openindiana[22:12:08] *** enmand_ has quit IRC[22:17:55] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[22:21:08] *** kenon has quit IRC[22:23:07] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[22:25:00] *** swa_work has joined #openindiana[22:25:38] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[22:27:34] *** Suse has joined #openindiana[22:29:35] <Suse> I have a problem, why I can not start Nwan manager or PackageManager through root?[22:29:43] <Suse> Solaris noob here[22:30:58] <Suse> anyone?[22:31:55] <swa_work> root is a role[22:32:00] <Hurri> I think a few more details than that are needed.[22:32:37] <Hurri> Errors? Nothing happens? Does the computer crash and catch fire? :)[22:33:12] <Suse> insert the password and when it seems to work, not really working. Not receive any error message.[22:33:48] <Triskelios> Suse: try setting a new password for the root user; it may be expired[22:34:52] <Hurri> I'm a bit busy, so don't message me directly. Ask in the open channel and someone else can probably answer before I have a chance to do so.[22:35:11] <Suse> worked[22:35:31] <Suse> It's weird, I swear I put the root password in the installer.[22:35:32] <Suse> :-\[22:35:48] <willie> what worked? setting a new pwd? other n00bs would like to learn too :-)[22:36:07] <Suse> putting root pass[22:36:14] *** raichoo has quit IRC[22:36:15] <willie> OK thx[22:36:29] *** swa_work has quit IRC[22:36:59] <alanc> the installer doesn't ask for a root password, it asks for a initial user to create and their password, and then sets roots password to be the same thing[22:37:16] <alanc> but root's password is set expired, and a bug in 151 caused the gui tools to not handle that properly[22:39:05] *** bens1 has quit IRC[22:39:06] <willie> ah I escaped that by doing a text install and then later installing X gnome etc otherwise I'd have been caught out with that too[22:39:47] <richlowe> Meths: you probably want an illumos rebuild with dan's ldap fix[22:40:28] <Meths> richlowe: 1668?[22:40:36] <willie> anybody got a clue how I get hold of this SUNWswmt pkg so I can hopefully complete an oracle install?[22:40:42] <richlowe> Meths: yes.[22:41:07] <Meths> willie: Which publishers do you have, you should just be able to install it.[22:41:38] <willie> just openindiana[22:41:56] <Triskelios> willie: as Tenzer pointed out, it's in /legacy[22:42:13] <willie> sorry I misunderstood - thank you[22:42:23] <willie> and Tenzer too :-)[22:42:24] <alanc> should be pretty useless though, since the SVR4 patch tools from it were EOL'ed and the zip software moved to a new package[22:42:57] <willie> OK so who recently has installed 11gR2 to openindiana?[22:43:11] <willie> and were there missing dependencies?[22:44:32] * alanc isn't quite sure why you'd accept Oracle's database but reject Oracle's OS - installing MySQL or PostgreSQL on openindiana would make much more sense than oracle[22:44:43] <willie> unzip worked OK for me to initially uncompress the two large zip files. My hassles started when I tried to run database/runInstaller[22:45:21] <willie> because openindiana is free for no money and I amm poor until I learn enough oracle to get employed[22:46:11] <Hurri> Oracle Solaris is free so long as it's not production.[22:46:26] <Hurri> You can use it for training and they won't have you killed.[22:46:33] <alanc> and Oracle Database is not free if it is in production[22:47:00] <willie> I can work MySQL reasonably well and POstgreSQL slightly but I have zero Oracle experience and very little Oracle. Got knocked back for a job recently because of lack of Oracle/Solaris knowledge[22:47:51] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[22:47:59] <willie> So I should not waste time on OI but go download from Oracle?[22:48:40] <Hurri> Knowing OI/Illumos is a good breadth of knowledge that'll do you good, but from a purely "job me" aspect Solaris 10/11 is probably where you want to go.[22:49:00] <willie> by Oracle's OS do you mean OEL?[22:49:12] <Hurri> No, Oracle Solaris. :)[22:49:28] <willie> well the "job me" aspect pays the bills but I want breadth as well[22:49:55] <willie> OK thank you - off to look on the Oracle site[22:50:00] <Hurri> So keep the OI VM around, and you can compare and contrast them.[22:50:11] *** Suse has left #openindiana[22:50:14] <willie> yes indeed[22:54:28] <nikolam> Hurri, it is not quite nice thing luring people to Oracle, since Oracle's Solaris is pretty much dead end at the moment. It has ZFS version compatible only with itself Atm.[22:55:16] <nikolam> I would much more prefer to have windows, Oracle Solaris VM's around, also knowing there is KVM in Openindiana from Illumos now, and that is not part of Oracle's version[22:55:31] <Hurri> Yes, but he's trying to learn Oracle DB specifically.[22:55:45] <nikolam> I think it is ok to say OS Certification is currently Oracle-binded.[22:56:05] <nikolam> Hurri, So, let it eun in VM. All of Oracle.[22:56:16] <Hurri> That's what he's doing. :)[22:57:09] <nikolam> Keep OI willie .[22:57:34] <alanc> dead end for you perhaps, but for people looking for jobs, there's a million Solaris jobs for every job asking for someone who knows OI[22:58:14] <nikolam> alanc, of course. In one sense dead end. But in much other senses, clearly not a dead end of course.[22:58:18] *** jedi4ever has quit IRC[22:59:10] <nikolam> In a sense of not being neck tied to a Oracle.[22:59:31] <Hurri> Learning Solaris does not blind you to Illumos or vise versa.[23:00:14] <Hurri> And a person going for an Oracle DB job isn't going to get anywhere saying they don't know Solaris but they'll switch you to Illumos to set you free.[23:00:19] <nikolam> Hurri, Learning Openindiana, does not blind you to use closed Solaris, yes.[23:00:55] <Hurri> Now, if they said they know Solaris *and* OI and there'll be chain-cutting, that's a win.[23:01:48] <nikolam> Of course. Certification is on Solaris side. But I would not count of paying for all Oracle license fees around me.[23:01:59] *** girafe has quit IRC[23:02:37] <Hurri> I think a person going for an Oracle DB job can be reasonably certain the employer has or will pay such fees.[23:03:08] <nikolam> Hurri, I think person going to Oracle should be going to Oracle. :P[23:04:07] <nikolam> I would rather not be the one to impose unneeded license fees to my employer.[23:04:59] <Hurri> Again, a person applying for an Oracle job is going to a place where Oracle is *already in use*.[23:05:45] <Hurri> So nobody is imposing anything on anybody.[23:06:15] <nikolam> Maybe that is why they won't hire him. 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