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[04:01:16] <LeftWing> so, has anybody noticed large amounts of kernel memory being eaten while having VirtualBox installed? (i.e. even with no VMs running)
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[04:02:37] <ajkno> the only thing I've noticed with VirtualBox is if I run them, my battery life dies, assumingly because nothing goes to sleep
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[04:04:14] <ajkno> but that's under Windows, so nevermind
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[04:46:13] <POloser> does OI support LSI SAS 2308 controllers? man mps_sas says about 2008 and 2108 chips
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[05:21:51] <limgad> hi, I have a question about the sshd configuration under openindiana. Any1 willing to spare a minute?
[05:25:27] <limgad> I want to disable the password prompt during the connection, but the PasswordAuthentication option doesn't seem to do the trick.
[05:25:54] <limgad> Is the UsePAM option supported?
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[05:41:55] <limgad> aha... it seems that KbdInteractiveAuthentication is not really depricated
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[06:08:54] <papertigers> cfgadm only sees c6 which is my intel card and all of its disks. However its not seeing c5 which is the onboard controller. Anyway to see that? Want to add a disk and configure it without rebooting
[06:14:38] <madwizard> Coffee
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[08:24:40] <RoyK> papertigers: devfsadm
[08:25:06] <RoyK> that is, if the OS doesn't see the onboard controller, perhaps it might not be supported...
[08:31:12] <Guest17387> limgad, try KbdInteractiveAuthentication no
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[08:32:04] <limgad> Guest17387: yeah, I did, and it worked. Thx
[08:32:11] <Wraithhh> limgad, ah, you did already
[08:32:45] <limgad> yeah
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[09:22:36] <raichoo> hi folks
[09:25:54] <Okona> hi raichoo
[09:40:11] <raichoo> hi Okona
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[10:10:32] <madwizard> Coffee
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[11:13:58] <|AbsyntH|> what does the " parity group count" stand for? in a hp 410 raid controller?
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[11:37:57] <tsoome> parity group is term for group of disk(s) which are working with common "parity". for mirror its pair 1+1, for 5 disk raid5 its 4D+1P disk group. and so on. the term is there because the need to distinguish those groups from whole raid config - you can have raid50 consisting of 2 parity groups for example.
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[12:24:12] <|AbsyntH|> tnx tsoome ;) .... lunch time brb
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[13:14:43] <heldus> anyone knows how to get time-slider working in the server-version of OI? the service fails to start with the error "not allowed to own the service due to security policies in the configuration file"
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[13:41:28] <heldus> dbus needed to be restarted.
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[15:02:13] <Krazypoloc> Anybody know how to show smart status of a drive?
[15:02:25] <Wraithhh> Krazypoloc, smartctl will help you
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[15:03:59] <Krazypoloc> I've tried that
[15:04:06] <Krazypoloc> Not sure what to point it to
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[15:26:53] <patdk-wk> to your drive
[15:27:08] <patdk-wk> normally -d sat,12 /dev/rdsk/c.......
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[15:59:22] <patdk-wk> hmm, I wonder what it is in my lun that compresses down to like nothing
[15:59:40] <patdk-wk> 800gig lun, that is 80% filled, zfs send with gzip was 130gigs
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[16:07:43] <Krazypoloc> Huh
[16:07:56] <Krazypoloc> Tried "smartctl -d sat,12 /dev/rdsk/c2t50014EE656CC65C0d0"
[16:08:00] <Krazypoloc> No errors
[16:08:06] <Krazypoloc> But also no results
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[16:33:28] <DrLou> Krazypoloc: Your BIOS have smart interface options enabled?
[16:34:21] <TPickle> can anyone tell me if it makes a difference to run oem qlogic cards vs qlogic branded cards? e.g. is an ibm or dell qle2562 going to be supported by os/oi the same as a vanilla qlogic card?
[16:36:15] <patdk-wk> Krazypoloc, what do you mean by results? you wanted the -a option? I mean, you have to read the manual
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[16:50:39] <Krazypoloc> Thanks guys
[16:50:54] <Krazypoloc> "smartctl -ad sat /dev/rdsk/c2t50014EE656CC65C0d0" did the trick
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[17:08:11] <floogy> http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Upgrading+OpenIndiana Service Temporarily Unavailable, I want to install the newst security upgrades and hope for a fix for https://www.illumos.org/issues/1071
[17:08:50] <floogy> But I don't know how to achieve this.
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[17:11:40] <floogy> I got these errors in messages: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/539318/
[17:13:24] <Tenzer> floogy: The wiki is up again now
[17:13:34] <floogy> Thx
[17:15:03] <floogy> Is the administration of opensolaris 10 somewhat similar to openindiana 151?
[17:15:41] <Tenzer> Are you talking about Solaris 10 or OpenSolaris?
[17:15:54] <Tenzer> OpenSolaris and OpenIndiana are very simliar, Solaris 10 not so much
[17:17:37] <floogy> Where are the main differences between sol10 and osol/oi11?
[17:18:24] <bdha> IPS. Boot Environments. Crossbow. Sparse zones vs ipkg zones.
[17:18:40] <bdha> Jumpstart vs Automated Installer.
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[17:18:58] <Tenzer> ZFS features - depending on which version of Solaris 10 you compare against
[17:19:32] <Tenzer> Also on OpenSolaris/OpenIndiana the default userspace uses GNU utilities
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[17:20:52] <floogy> Ok, but aside frome IPS and GNU tools the main administration tools are similar, if one not using new features like crossbow etc.?
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[17:21:13] <bdha> It's still Solaris.
[17:21:30] <bdha> Live Upgrade vs IPS upgrade is the biggest difference, probably, from an admin perspective.
[17:21:38] <bdha> Jumpstart vs AI if you do network installs.
[17:21:42] <Tenzer> Services are managed the same way, the network configuration is done the same way (if you disable NWAM)
[17:21:59] <bdha> Tenzer: Well, ipadm.
[17:22:22] <Tenzer> bdha: I have never gotten used to use that :P
[17:22:22] <floogy> Thank you. i'm getting a picture.
[17:22:59] <floogy> So, I'll update by using the IPS for security fixes and Installations?
[17:24:30] <bdha> Tenzer: Nor I.
[17:25:09] <floogy> will this suffice, or is that only for upgrades between releases? pfexec pkg image-update -nv
[17:26:07] <floogy> Ok trying that dryrun now
[17:26:23] <floogy> No updates available for this image.
[17:26:29] <floogy> ?
[17:26:47] <tomww> wha tis the current publisher? pkg publisher
[17:26:59] <Tenzer> floogy: What version of OpenIndiana are you on? oi_151a?
[17:27:08] <floogy> http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/
[17:27:23] <floogy> SunOS openindiana 5.11 oi_151a i86pc i386 i86pc
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[17:28:15] <floogy> I have to go now, sorry. see you later.
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[17:46:17] <myrkraverk> Hmm, where do I find a torrent client? Isn't there one I can install with pkg? Or maybe several?
[17:47:16] <Tenzer> myrkraverk: I'm pretty sure Transmission is in the repositories
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[17:50:02] <myrkraverk> Thanks, I'm installing pkg:/sfe.openindiana.org/desktop/torrent/transmission at 2 dot 22-0.151.1 - I hope that's the right one.
[17:50:20] <Tenzer> It looks like it to me
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[17:59:10] <KermitTheFragger> hi all
[17:59:20] <Tenzer> 'ello
[17:59:49] <KermitTheFragger> quick question; Say I package something, what would be the right directory to put all the stuff under ? '/usr/local' ? '/usr/sfw' ?
[18:00:25] <Tenzer> It depends on if you want to make the package public available or just use it for yourself
[18:00:51] <Tenzer> If it's the latter, then you can use whatever suits you. I personally prefer to put my own installed software under /opt
[18:02:04] <KermitTheFragger> well I could make it public, once im a bit more confident with packaging IPS stuff and won't become the laughing stock of the openindiana community ;-)
[18:02:23] <KermitTheFragger> so for public use, what would be the right place ?
[18:03:32] <Tenzer> There are some guidelines on the wiki if you want the package added to the official repositories, on this page and some of the subpages: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Building+with+oi-build
[18:04:20] <Tenzer> If you want to set up your own repository to host things on, it might be better to create your own prefix under /usr, ie. /usr/kermit where you install your software under, making it easier for other people to distinguish where are certain file comes from
[18:06:09] <KermitTheFragger> thanks, that was the info i was looking for
[18:16:38] <Hurri> Woo, nice. SSHDroid panicked my TP.
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[20:39:11] <linux00002> What does a * next to service status mean? 'svcs nfs/server' shows online*
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[20:39:51] <Meths> It's changing state, it hasn't achieved online yet.
[20:40:39] <linux00002> I restarted it 20 mins ago, and it seems to be stuck in that state
[20:40:43] <linux00002> the log doesn't say much
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[20:41:01] <linux00002> this is the last entry
[20:41:02] <linux00002> Executing stop method ("/lib/svc/method/nfs-server stop 105")
[20:41:12] <bdrewery> my NFS was crashing too recently
[20:41:19] <bdrewery> I just cleared the state and enabled and it came back up
[20:41:30] <linux00002> how do i clear state?
[20:43:33] <linux00002> ah i can't even disable it, its just stuck in online*
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[20:51:49] <linux00002> yea, it's seem to be stuck in online* state
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[20:54:07] <descipher> svcs -l nfs/server
[21:02:09] <descipher> online* means it's in transition - look for deps
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[21:13:34] <Tenzer> descipher: It's probably not dependencies when he's trying to stop it :)
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[23:00:56] <richlowe> any of you folks use NIS?
[23:01:07] <richlowe> there's a really obvious bug introduced more than a year ago that nobody has mentioned
[23:01:11] <richlowe> so I'm puzzled by it not being mentioned.
[23:02:41] <floogy> Tenzer, are you online? What do you think about my oi_151a update try? pfexec pkg image-update -nv gives No updates available for this image. publisher is http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/ I installed that oi one or two weeks ago.
[23:03:42] <floogy> richlowe, is there already a bug filed?
[23:04:45] <Tenzer> floogy: As it is now, there aren't really put out regular updates to OpenIndiana repositories. It has basically been new builds which have been made instead, which updates the kernel and core userland at once
[23:06:04] <Tenzer> floogy: You did experince some soft of bug which should be fixed in newer versions, right?
[23:06:08] <Tenzer> experience *
[23:06:12] <floogy> Ah, ok. It's due to the bug #1071 , that I want to update. http://paste.pocoo.org/show/539318/
[23:06:38] <Tenzer> You could try updating to this build then, it was released 1-2 weeks ago: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/oi_151a_prestable0+Release+Notes
[23:06:43] * alanc uses NIS, but not on OI
[23:08:23] <floogy> Isn't NIS outdated due to it's successor NIS+ ? Not that I know something about that ;)
[23:09:09] <RoyK> NIS is outdated due to its successor LDAP
[23:09:19] <alanc> Sun EOL'ed NIS+, continues using & supporting NIS
[23:09:53] <alanc> NIS+ never got wide enough adoption to truly succeed NIS
[23:10:00] <richlowe> alanc: I think you have fixed the bug.
[23:10:04] <floogy> Tenzer, so I have to change the publisher to that release and try to upgrade into a new BE?
[23:10:04] <richlowe> and it's the NIS+ EOL that _is_ the bug.
[23:10:14] <Tenzer> floogy: Correct
[23:10:14] <richlowe> they removed the binary that's required for ypserv -d to actually do anything.
[23:10:46] <richlowe> so I can only assume folks are either using nis, but with dns listed as a hosts/ipnodes source, or not using nis
[23:11:30] <alanc> oh, you mean like 6943663 dns forwarding in NIS needs to work even after nisplus removal ?
[23:12:25] <floogy> RoyK, so osol, oi and sol11 are using actually LDAP as directory server?
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[23:12:36] <alanc> and really, who doesn't use dns for hosts?
[23:12:53] <alanc> floogy: they offer the choice of NIS or LDAP, it depends on how you configure them
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[23:20:23] <floogy> And they kicked the formerly successor NIS+? NIS+ wasn't developed sufficient, and then they dropped it?
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[23:38:46] <richlowe> NIS+ was an overcomplicated piece of shit.
[23:38:48] <richlowe> and nobody used it
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[23:40:58] <alanc> NIS+ was given nearly 20 years before being killed off, it's not like it was a quick death
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[23:41:27] <alanc> pretty much every OS but Sun chose LDAP instead
[23:41:39] <alanc> so Sun eventually followed
[23:42:10] <alanc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIS%2B
[23:42:31] <richlowe> or, in this case, %Not-2B
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[23:57:17] <joffe> stupid question - did anyone ever port chrome\chromium to solaris\oi?
[23:57:40] <descipher> All together now .. NIS is a piece of sh...t RIP
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