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[03:54:13] <Orii> i have crossed  the final frontier and installed openindiana on my laptop
[03:54:30] <Orii> i did it because i love you all
[03:55:46] <_Tenchi_> now you shall learn what they mean by "tough love"
[03:56:22] <Orii> nah our relationship is like where i love you but you dont love me....yet
[03:56:55] <Orii> playing hard to get :P
[03:57:41] <Orii> when is gcc going to update? and python? and firefox?
[03:57:43] <Orii> :3
[03:58:06] <Orii> im patient but if its more than a year then we may have some problems :P
[03:58:44] <Orii> gcc the most important
[04:04:13] <richlowe> use the SFE gcc
[04:04:44] <Orii> eh?
[04:07:40] <Orii> SFE=SAFE?
[04:07:50] <Orii> while SFE==SAFE:
[04:07:59] <Orii>     print "safe?"
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[04:17:43] <Patrickdk> hmm
[04:17:53] <Patrickdk> doing my first zfs recv :) should be fun, 3tb :)
[04:19:06] <Orii> :D
[04:19:10] <Orii> sounds fun
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[04:22:35] <azcore> re
[04:22:50] <azcore> is there a way to upgrade from oi_151a to solaris 11?
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[04:31:16] <Orii> where there is a will there is a way. but you may have to wait until the person dies and there is always the chance you are not in the will
[04:31:19] * Orii shrugs
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[04:34:27] <azcore> i have set repository to http://pkg.oracle.com/solaris/release/ and tried pkg update -nv
[04:34:43] <azcore> but it seems that many packages will be deleted
[04:35:09] <azcore> and i feel that system will be unusable after that
[04:35:10] <richlowe> No, you can't switch between OI and solaris without re-installing.
[04:35:16] <richlowe> in either direction
[04:35:54] <azcore> richlowe: hm, what about that post then - http://unixben.com/2010/11/upgrading-openindiana-to-oracle-solaris-11-express/
[04:36:00] <azcore> is that no longer a case?
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[04:36:43] <azcore> can i at least have both openindiana and solaris 11 in same rpool?
[04:37:35] <azcore> I have weird system panics with openindiana every now and then
[04:37:51] <azcore> so I want to try solaris 11
[04:39:21] <Orii> what makes them weird?
[04:40:12] <azcore> Orii: by weird I mean that i don't know causes of these panics - may be it is problem with my hardware
[04:40:26] <azcore> but then again - maybe not
[04:40:59] <azcore> when there is only 2g ram in my box - there is no panics
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[04:42:21] <azcore> but after i add another 2g ram (i've tried several dimm's so i don't think there is trouble with memory) systems panics every day
[04:43:02] <azcore> I used this box with the same memory to run vmware esxi and there was no crashes
[04:44:25] <Orii> could just be the os getting used the the computer. for some reason no one knows what im talking about but when i put a new os on a computer it will act funny and fuck up for a day or two then its all better :P
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[04:45:02] <azcore> Orii it working as home nas several months already
[04:45:22] <azcore> Orii so I don't think panics will stop
[04:46:00] <azcore> is there a way to install sol11 in same zpool as oi without destroying pool data?
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[04:50:47] <Orii> azcore: it would suck if it was hardware. dont forget openindiana is still testing
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[11:27:34] <RoyK> hi all. any idea what might cause this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/812883/
[11:41:36] <Okona> pkg.opensolaris.org does not exist any more -> use pkg.openindiana.org/legacy instead
[11:43:54] <RoyK> hm.. what was that syntax... "pkg set-publisher pkg.openindiana.org/legacy" or something?
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[12:46:15] <matsim> Hey, just as reminder for those coming to FOSDEM in 2 Weeks, don't forget the illumos meetup: http://www.meetup.com/illumos-User-Group/events/48503172/
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[15:21:34] <raichoo> hi folks
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[16:04:10] <phsoftnet> hi everyone, i am running Solaris 11, and found out the flash plugin is not working with this http://chromium.hybridsource.org/notes
[16:04:39] <phsoftnet> from that page, i understand that it should be working.  has anyone made chrome work with flash?
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[17:56:48] <RoyK> a daily wtf http://paste.ubuntu.com/813278/
[18:07:41] <Patrickdk> heh
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[18:10:57] <Patrickdk> seems like zfs send/revc hates snapshot renaming
[18:13:45] <Wraithh> Patrickdk, oh, I hadn't had any problems
[18:13:53] <Wraithh> I always renamed them at both ends though
[18:14:11] <Wraithh> *haven't
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[18:16:14] <tomww> the internal organisation is always numbers of filesystems or snapshots, so if you change the name, I can't see what that
[18:16:32] <Patrickdk> wraithh, ya, I'm only renaming them at one end
[18:16:35] <tomww> schould be of any problem, given the case that you don't rename whilst a zfs send is active
[18:16:39] <Patrickdk> I was hoping it would be carried through
[18:17:10] <Patrickdk> tomww, well, I duplicated the way netapp does snapshots
[18:17:12] <Wraithh> I suppose you could rename it at the other end during the transfer and then name it back if you like
[18:17:20] <Patrickdk> so, I am getting duplicate snapshot exists
[18:17:41] <Patrickdk> I make a nightly.0, then tomorrow I rename that to nightly.1 and make a new nightly.0
[18:17:55] <Wraithh> netapp can also support the other naming scheme :)
[18:18:14] <Patrickdk> dunno about that, but my applicates where made to support it this way :)
[18:18:20] <sommerfeld> RoyK: svcadm refresh the service for the new values to become visible.
[18:18:28] <Patrickdk> I need to make changes I guess
[18:18:39] <Patrickdk> but as the dumps I have currently do it that way :(
[18:18:59] <Patrickdk> I spend 3 weeks transfering that dump of 2tb from the datacenter to home, so I could restore it
[18:18:59] <Wraithh> Patrickdk, Yeah, I suppose you would have to implement snapshot rotation in both ends if you do it like that
[18:20:13] <sommerfeld> Patrickdk: never underestimate the bandwidth of a backpack full of sata drives.
[18:20:46] <Patrickdk> sommerfeld, never underestimate the 24hour round trip to the datacenter, drive time, gas, food, ...
[18:21:55] <Wraithh> A boxful of sata drives also has pretty good bandwidth on fedex :)
[18:22:29] <Patrickdk> a box full of sata drives need a computer to put them into, someone to connect it, and someone to install and remove + ship them
[18:23:29] <Patrickdk> it's only 50gigs of changed data per week
[18:23:35] <Patrickdk> so the only issue was the initial sync
[18:23:37] <Wraithh> Patrickdk, if you don't need the rotated snapshots on the other end, you could just use a different set of snapshots for send/recv
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[18:24:06] <Patrickdk> na, I wanted the snapshots in sync
[18:24:15] <Patrickdk> why the rename didn't care over suprised me
[18:24:48] <Patrickdk> I guess I could have each side make it's own snapshots
[18:24:58] <Patrickdk> and just do zfs sends from now on without sending snapshots
[18:25:08] <Patrickdk> but have to solve this issue first of the ones I already did
[18:25:48] <Patrickdk> well, I guess solving the issue isn't too hard, just manual
[18:25:59] <Patrickdk> rename them based on timestamp
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[18:37:36] <myrkraverk> Wasn't there a way to add guides in gimp by clicking and dragging on the rulers?  Every time I do that my gimp hangs - and I just end up kill -9 it.
[18:37:54] <myrkraverk> Are any of you willing to test if that works on your gimp?  I think I'm just using stock OI gimp.
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[18:43:48] <RoyK> sommerfeld: right.. thanks :)
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[18:57:36] <merzo> Have a problem with language switching in OI_151.1.1
[18:58:12] <merzo> default IIMF doesn't work because doesn't see engine
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[18:58:25] <merzo> Now I'm trying to use iBus
[18:58:51] <merzo> Does anybody have experience with this framework?
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[22:25:39] <RoyK> evening
[22:25:45] <RoyK> any idea about this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/813584/
[22:26:20] <RoyK> or even http://paste.ubuntu.com/813585/ - I have no such device named c10d0
[22:26:30] <RoyK> still shows up with iostat, though
[22:31:12] <Patrickdk> not even a dvd drive?
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[22:51:00] <tsoome> prtconf -v will tell about your devices
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[23:03:27] <RoyK> the dvd rom, apparently
[23:03:47] <Patrickdk> damn, that magic ball works sometimes
[23:04:01] <RoyK> magic?
[23:04:09] <Patrickdk> crystal?
[23:04:44] <Patrickdk> I said it was a dvd over 30min ago :)
[23:06:40] <RoyK> oh
[23:06:45] <RoyK> :)
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