January 20, 2012 
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January 20, 2012 [00:07:45] *** enmand has quit IRC[00:10:23] *** n2deep has quit IRC[00:12:20] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[00:12:28] <DrLou> hey RoyK: you still there? been a long time...[00:12:39] <DrLou> Q on zpools, since you da man?[00:14:44] *** [gorgo] has quit IRC[00:14:44] *** wigyori has quit IRC[00:14:51] *** [gorgo] has joined #openindiana[00:17:13] *** n2deep has quit IRC[00:17:36] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[00:31:26] *** Transformer has joined #openindiana[00:32:05] *** Transformer has quit IRC[00:32:45] *** xenol has quit IRC[00:48:50] *** xenol has joined #openindiana[01:03:10] *** easye has quit IRC[01:03:21] *** easye has joined #openindiana[01:09:41] *** [1]kimc has joined #openindiana[01:11:14] *** kimc has quit IRC[01:11:14] *** [1]kimc is now known as kimc[01:19:00] *** _404_Error_ has joined #openindiana[01:20:03] *** analog_ has joined #openindiana[01:20:08] *** analog_ has left #openindiana[01:23:51] *** Mech0z has quit IRC[01:26:47] *** willie has quit IRC[01:29:32] *** Tempt has quit IRC[01:30:08] *** kimc has quit IRC[01:33:20] *** Tempt has joined #openindiana[01:42:50] *** movement has joined #openindiana[02:09:30] *** wiseen has joined #openindiana[02:12:39] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[02:41:04] <freetown2> any recommendations for an ldap server on OI?[02:41:12] <freetown2> aside from openldap that is[02:43:55] <Triskelios> OpenDS/OpenDJ, or 389 Directory Server. OpenLDAP is a piece of crap[02:44:30] <freetown2> so it is still opends/opendj...what's 389 Directory Server?[02:45:02] <freetown2> oh the Fedora DS...[02:47:32] *** n2deep has quit IRC[02:49:15] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[02:59:31] *** Tempt has quit IRC[03:00:09] *** Tempt has joined #openindiana[03:05:05] *** Botanic has quit IRC[03:05:59] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[03:06:36] *** Licenser_ has joined #openindiana[03:07:49] *** Licenser has quit IRC[03:07:49] *** Licenser_ is now known as Licenser[03:10:46] *** enmand has quit IRC[03:12:44] *** krystal has quit IRC[03:23:38] *** blu has quit IRC[03:25:23] *** krystal has joined #openindiana[03:34:24] *** krystal has quit IRC[03:34:53] *** POloser has joined #openindiana[03:46:45] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[03:46:45] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[04:03:58] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[04:06:17] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[04:07:46] *** russiane39 has quit IRC[04:12:12] *** russiane39 has joined #openindiana[04:16:28] *** niner has joined #openindiana[04:18:16] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[04:25:31] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[04:27:53] *** kenon has quit IRC[04:29:53] *** niner has quit IRC[04:57:34] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[05:01:28] *** Shep_Book has quit IRC[05:02:24] *** blu has joined #openindiana[05:02:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o blu[05:04:54] *** bLuCiFeR has joined #openindiana[05:11:46] *** blu is now known as blu_[05:11:55] *** bLuCiFeR is now known as blu[05:12:00] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o blu[05:13:07] *** Latent22 has quit IRC[05:18:07] *** blu_ has quit IRC[05:36:29] *** cpny has quit IRC[05:39:04] *** cpny has joined #openindiana[05:44:44] *** jw_urodoc has quit IRC[05:45:14] *** jw_urodoc has joined #openindiana[05:45:38] *** n2deep has quit IRC[05:47:42] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[06:10:05] *** _wilsonkk_ has quit IRC[06:11:00] <madwizard> Coffee[06:17:55] *** kimc has joined #openindiana[06:22:34] *** _wilsonkk_ has joined #openindiana[06:26:11] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[06:26:43] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[06:35:27] *** descipher_ has joined #openindiana[06:37:25] *** descipher has quit IRC[06:38:52] *** descipher_ is now known as descipher[06:42:29] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[06:45:08] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[06:55:12] *** raijin is now known as sunvigilance[06:55:16] *** LizardKing has quit IRC[06:55:19] *** sunvigilance is now known as subvigilance[06:55:43] *** LizardKing has joined #openindiana[06:56:06] *** gwr has quit IRC[07:08:41] *** subvigilance is now known as darth_raijin[07:13:40] *** sergiosanche has joined #openindiana[07:20:38] *** sergiosanche has quit IRC[07:21:31] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[07:24:55] *** kenon has quit IRC[07:29:51] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[07:30:55] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[07:30:55] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[07:35:15] *** echelog-2 has joined #openindiana[07:53:02] *** hajma has quit IRC[08:13:45] *** dvx has joined #openindiana[08:41:42] *** Botanic has quit IRC[08:42:41] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[08:46:59] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[08:50:33] *** kart_ has quit IRC[08:56:03] <Garo__> I'm trying to run the zilstat.ksh, but I get a weird error "in predicate: zl_dmu_pool is not a member of struct devinfo_audit". The script has worked on the system before, but for some unknown reason to me, it doesn't work anymore and googling didn't find any usefull answers. Any ideas?[08:59:22] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[08:59:35] *** anikin has joined #openindiana[09:00:30] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[09:19:59] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[09:20:47] *** Mech0z has joined #openindiana[09:27:06] *** wiseen has quit IRC[09:29:17] *** Micr0mega has joined #openindiana[09:30:59] *** freetown2 has quit IRC[09:39:39] *** tsoome_ has joined #openindiana[09:39:56] *** Vutral has quit IRC[09:40:19] *** bgeek has joined #openindiana[09:40:19] *** bgeek has joined #openindiana[09:41:10] *** tsoome has quit IRC[09:41:10] *** tsoome_ is now known as tsoome[09:46:41] *** alcir has joined #openindiana[09:49:18] *** tsoome_ has joined #openindiana[09:50:17] *** bens1 has quit IRC[09:51:01] *** alcir has quit IRC[09:51:55] *** tsoome has quit IRC[09:51:55] *** tsoome_ is now known as tsoome[09:53:57] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[10:10:40] *** tsoome has quit IRC[10:24:35] *** Tenzer has joined #openindiana[10:24:41] *** jw_urodoc has quit 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joined #openindiana[16:32:02] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[16:33:18] *** sergiosanche has quit IRC[16:34:17] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[16:34:17] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[16:46:29] *** anikin has quit IRC[16:46:54] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[16:50:56] *** rame has joined #openindiana[16:51:20] *** raichoo has quit IRC[16:56:50] *** kart__ has joined #openindiana[16:56:55] *** wickedwonka has quit IRC[16:59:54] *** kart_ has quit IRC[17:02:20] *** Tenzer has quit IRC[17:03:25] *** kart__ is now known as kart_[17:06:39] *** RoyK has joined #openindiana[17:18:29] *** piukeman has quit IRC[17:18:54] *** willie has joined #openindiana[17:21:31] <willie> I have openindiana running in a KVM on a 32Gb storage area. So far I have rpool1 occupying 4.3G of that. How can I make new virtual disks within that 32Gb storage area? sorry if this is such a n00b Q but googling shows no obvious answer[17:21:46] *** mavritivs has joined #openindiana[17:22:17] <nahamu> willie: you need to have partitioned the "drive"[17:22:19] <willie> I want to experiment with ZFS and then install racle on the newly created space[17:23:41] <nahamu> zfs virtual devices are composed of one or more "physical devices" which can be whole disks or disk partitions[17:24:32] <nahamu> if you gave OI the full 32GB "drive", then it probably did some minimal partitioning that took over the whole "drive"[17:24:33] <willie> yes but Im not sure how to tell openindiana that the remaider of the 32G is to be allocated and then formatted[17:24:53] <nahamu> At install time you'd have to set up custom partitioning.[17:26:29] *** alcir has quit IRC[17:27:33] *** konradb has left #openindiana[17:27:39] <willie> sorry I only gave OI the 4.3Gb of that 32Gb to start with[17:28:43] *** mavritivs has left #openindiana[17:30:36] <willie> maybe I should wipe and start again and give OI the full 32GB to start with[17:32:23] *** kenon has quit IRC[17:35:51] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[17:36:04] *** Sloar has quit IRC[17:36:30] *** Sloar has joined #openindiana[17:38:27] *** JonS___ has joined #openindiana[17:41:26] *** piukeman has joined #openindiana[17:47:47] <auronandace> is there any plans to get rid of the 8 character username limit in the graphical installer?[17:50:24] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[17:54:56] *** Micr0mega has left #openindiana[17:56:10] *** randw has quit IRC[17:59:02] <willie> Im making a new install of OI in another 30GB KVM storage area - I can chhose a 4.4GB partition for Solaris, using F5 to change type on any of the other slots lets me change to Extended but the installer won't let me make any other type of partition even in the logical area. If I accept this and install, would I be able to create other partitions later form within OI? Ideally Id like a 4.4Gb Solaris "system" partition say 8-10GB[18:00:12] <willie> IF this works then Id want to clone this and play with ZFS across severl OI installations. I have ~100GB tp play with.[18:03:40] <auronandace> as far as i know you can only install to primary partitions[18:03:46] <auronandace> same with the bsds[18:05:36] *** Whoopsie has quit IRC[18:05:37] *** kenon has quit IRC[18:05:57] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[18:06:07] <willie> OK that makes sense but how do I set up other partitions for the rest of my plan? Sorry if this is a n00b question. ssh-ing into my KVM server, Im getting issues with "less" so reading man pages is difficult[18:06:23] *** jMCg has quit IRC[18:06:27] <auronandace> use a partition manager like gparted[18:07:02] <willie> yes but this is inside a KVM storage area[18:07:30] <willie> or should I try to use gparted from within OI - if that is even possible[18:07:31] *** piukeman has quit IRC[18:07:58] <auronandace> i don't know much about kvm storage areas[18:08:09] *** jMCg has joined #openindiana[18:08:51] <Triskelios> willie: use at most one partition[18:09:05] <willie> of 30 GB?[18:09:37] <willie> and use slices of that?[18:09:56] <willie> deally Id like a 4.4Gb Solaris "system" partition say 8-10GB for /home and the rest for Oracle installation and storage[18:09:58] <Triskelios> no![18:10:07] <willie> OK I wont!![18:10:10] <Triskelios> ZFS makes partitioning obsolete[18:10:16] <willie> ah[18:11:58] <willie> So one big 30Gb and let ZFS take care of it - will I be able to "mirror" my ZFS areas across multiple OI installations? analagous to having and LVM VG that encompasses PVs on different physical disks?[18:15:39] <JonS___> I am playing with "distro_const" http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Distribution+Constructor , can anyone post a custom "slim_cd_x86.xml" so I can look at the difference between the default "slim_cd_x86.xml" and figure out how add consolidations. This is so I can understand the syntax. See http://www.pastie.org/3209659 and http://www.pastie.org/3210389, FYI in IRC on Jan. 19, 2012 richlowe let me know I messed up my first attempt[18:15:42] <Triskelios> I'm not entirely understanding that analogy or what it has to do with "installations"[18:16:45] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[18:17:34] *** hajma has quit IRC[18:17:38] *** Botanic has quit IRC[18:18:01] <willie> Im still trying to get my head around ZFS - time for more reading or time to clear off a 160Gb SATA and dual-boot so Im hitting the hardware directly instead of having KVM in the way until I know better[18:18:36] *** gregburd has quit IRC[18:19:25] <Hurri> What does a KVM storage area look like to the guest OS? Just a disk?[18:19:32] <Hurri> <--- Hasn't played with KVM at all.[18:19:40] <willie> yes - a physical disk[18:20:12] <willie> but one you cant get to directly with gparted or friends[18:20:14] <Hurri> Okay, so for the guest OS, it (as far as it knows) has a 30G disk attached?[18:20:22] <willie> yep[18:21:30] <Hurri> I'm surprised the installer didn't consume the entire disk for ZFS, then.[18:21:53] <Hurri> Whe you say 4.3G for ZFS, is that the pool size, or just the amount in use?[18:22:00] <willie> well Im reinstalling and told OI to use all 30GB[18:22:27] <willie> 4.3Gb is the recommended size in the installer[18:23:01] <Triskelios> recommended *minimum*[18:23:37] <willie> I thought 2Gb was minimum (text install)[18:23:38] <Hurri> It's been forever since I did a full install. But on Solaris 10 I just gave it the entire disk. I believe it just asked to do so.[18:26:33] <Hurri> I'm also watching the "Oracle University" presentation on their to-come support interface.[18:26:44] <Hurri> I think it might be liquifying my brains.[18:27:25] <Hurri> EXTREMELY boring. And the speaker is *not* a person really suited for public speaking.[18:27:35] *** movement has quit IRC[18:27:43] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[18:28:48] <willie> frustrated by not being able to cut'n paste out of the KVM to stick this in a pastebin so you guys can see what Im about[18:28:57] <willie> but thanks anyway :-)[18:30:05] <Hurri> Basically, ZFS just operates with the idea of storage pools. The hardware that makes up that storage pool is largely irrelevant. That way you divide that pool up is likewise a strictly conceptual affair.[18:30:18] <Hurri> Which is why "partitions" go away.[18:30:45] *** kenon has quit IRC[18:31:07] <Hurri> But for PC BIOS compatibility reasons ZFS needs to operate inside fdisk partitions, and of course your fdisk partition may not stretch across the entire physical disk.[18:31:20] <willie> can I tell ZFS to use directories as pools? /home/willie/data1 home/willie/data2 etc?[18:31:54] <Hurri> No, because those aren't devices.[18:31:57] <Hurri> But![18:32:18] <Hurri> You can create a *file*, use lofiadm to map that into a device, and use that.[18:32:26] *** jurikm has joined #openindiana[18:32:42] <willie> man lofiadm is my next stop[18:32:49] <Hurri> For example: mkfile 1g /home/fake_disk[18:32:54] <Hurri> lofiadm -a /home/fake_disk[18:33:07] <Hurri> zpool create testpool /dev/lofi/1[18:33:34] <willie> excellent[18:33:58] <Hurri> You can get crazy with that, too.[18:34:04] <willie> Hurri: your beer account is +1 here. You may collect in Glasgow Scotland :-)[18:34:17] <Hurri> Like create fake_disk1, fake_disk2, and then zpool create testpool mirror /dev/lofi/1 /dev/lofi/2[18:34:43] <Hurri> Keep in mind that that zpool won't reappear after you reboot, though.[18:34:56] <willie> how do I make it persistent?[18:35:20] <Triskelios> you don't. why would you do that?[18:36:03] <Hurri> This wouldn't be suitable for persistent storage. It's a way of teaching yourself ZFS.[18:36:04] <tsoome> first thing is, you dont need to use lofi at all for such case[18:36:36] <Hurri> I was trying to remember if it was necessary, so I went for the safe bet. :)[18:37:18] <willie> aw naw ! this is why I gave up on Perl! I didnt like the idea that There IS More THan One Way To DoIt[18:37:37] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[18:37:37] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[18:37:38] <tsoome> willie: then you are using wrong OS[18:37:43] *** kart_ has quit IRC[18:37:51] <tsoome> the whole unix is around that idea....[18:37:57] <willie> OK my new OI install is ready - going to play[18:38:05] *** piukeman has joined #openindiana[18:38:29] <willie> tsoome: yes but it makes it easier to learn for the hard of thinking like me[18:38:37] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[18:38:50] <willie> I was only joking about Perl - but I still prefer python[18:38:52] <Hurri> Aha, okay. Yeah, zpool will take a (full) pathname as a device. I forgot about that.[18:39:06] <Hurri> So zpool create testpool mirror /home/file1 /home/file2[18:39:20] <Hurri> Shows you how long it's been since I've messed around with that.[18:39:22] <tsoome> and if you create your files in /dev/dsk (which you shouldnt!) ....[18:39:37] <tsoome> ;)[18:39:54] * tsoome is giving out bad ideas today;)[18:40:03] <Hurri> I also blame Oracle University.[18:40:09] <Hurri> It's drained my will to think[18:40:17] <tsoome> *that* you can blame for anything.[18:41:00] <tsoome> I so like how corporation like oracle cant afford decent systems for its "university"[18:41:03] <Hurri> I just wanted to see what the new MOS is going to look like.[18:41:18] <Hurri> I'm not going to say the new MOS will be worse than the old, because I'm not sure that's actually possible.[18:41:34] <Hurri> Not without warping physical reality.[18:41:46] <tsoome> unfortunately they are "fixing" only html MOS, not that stupid flash...[18:42:09] <Hurri> That's good enough for me. If the HTML version works I don't need to touch the Flash version.[18:42:13] *** girafe has joined #openindiana[18:42:22] <tsoome> i have the same hope:D[18:42:44] <Hurri> As it is, sometimes I need to have both versions open, because feature#1 will be broke in Flash and feature#2 is broke in HTML.[18:43:57] <Hurri> And that Oracle Mobile app... WTF?[18:44:24] *** krystal has quit IRC[18:44:42] <Hurri> I downloaded it with some hope, got worried when I saw the low rating and... it's just a browser interface to oracle.mobi? Srsly?[18:44:58] <tsoome> :D[18:45:14] <tsoome> im glad i havent yet wasted my time on it then…. :D[18:45:22] *** gregburd has joined #openindiana[18:56:40] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[18:57:15] *** krystal has joined #openindiana[19:03:24] *** krystal has quit IRC[19:03:53] *** linux00002 has quit IRC[19:04:29] *** linux00002 has joined #openindiana[19:04:59] *** jw_urodoc has quit IRC[19:05:25] *** jw_urodoc has joined #openindiana[19:13:54] *** krystal has joined #openindiana[19:20:05] *** descipher has quit IRC[19:20:10] *** jurikm has left #openindiana[19:20:21] *** kart_ has quit IRC[19:21:52] *** madona has joined #openindiana[19:21:59] *** descipher has joined #openindiana[19:22:10] <madona> hi[19:22:55] *** madona has quit IRC[19:26:48] <heldus> the text based server installer is nice, just wished it would also have static ip network configuration in it, that would make it perfect :)[19:37:06] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[19:41:08] *** descipher_ has joined #openindiana[19:42:17] *** descipher has quit IRC[19:42:19] *** descipher_ is now known as descipher[19:43:03] *** Tenzer has joined #openindiana[19:44:58] *** girafe has quit IRC[19:45:14] *** tsoome_ has joined #openindiana[19:47:01] *** tsoome has quit IRC[19:47:01] *** tsoome_ is now known as tsoome[19:49:14] *** paperino has joined #openindiana[19:49:21] <paperino> hello all![19:49:41] <paperino> shooting a question.[19:50:10] <paperino> I have a ZFS pool created with Nexenta. I import it in OI151, create the users, set the permissions properly, etc.[19:50:33] <paperino> but I have an authentication issue when using the shares from Windows[19:51:17] <paperino> any troubleshooting suggestions? If I enable guest everything works since there is no authentication going on.[19:51:23] <Triskelios> smrt: explain cifs[19:51:23] <smrt> File sharing protocol commonly used on Windows. OpenSolaris includes two cifs servers, one builtin to the kernel, and the samba userspace daemon. (See also: cifs server, samba)[19:51:28] <Triskelios> smrt: explain cifs server[19:51:28] <smrt> OpenSolaris has a new CIFS (Windows file sharing in SMB) server in the kernel. Good resources for it include http://dlc.sun.com/osol/docs/content/SSMBAG/troubleshooting.html and http://wiki.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/CIFS_Service_Troubleshooting . The CIFS provides better performance and easier administration for CIFS than Samba but Samba provides other SMB services (See also: samba)[19:52:34] <paperino> Triskelios, both links are dead. :([19:52:53] <Triskelios> fortunately, google exists[19:54:27] <Triskelios> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19082-01/820-2429/smbservertasks/index.html[19:55:33] *** girafe has joined #openindiana[19:58:52] <paperino> thx, I couldn't find much myself.[20:07:38] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[20:09:36] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[20:11:05] *** easy-iPad has joined #openindiana[20:14:38] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[20:16:08] *** kenon has quit IRC[20:21:29] *** easy-iPad has quit IRC[20:42:41] *** Zenos has quit IRC[20:46:16] <willie> smrt: explain zfs[20:46:17] <smrt> ZFS is the groundbreakingly awesome new copy-on-write filesystem from Sun. It self-heals, uses storage pools, implements software RAID, has built-in compression, does snapshots, and has native backup tools. It is included in recent Solaris and OpenSolaris versions. See http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/ (See also: zfs boot faq, zfs best practices, arc, arc summary, zilstat) (Also, /msg smrt search zfs) No, it doesn't slice, dice, or julie[20:46:42] <willie> cool bot! :-)[20:47:14] *** linux00002 has quit IRC[20:47:49] <willie> smrt: explain arc[20:47:49] <smrt> Architecture Review Committee. A committee of engineers assembled to review and approve (or not) software architecture. Architectural issues generally include interface dependencies and user interface presentation. (Not to be confused with: zfs arc)[20:48:02] <willie> smrt: explain zfs arc[20:48:02] <smrt> The ZFS Adaptive Replacement Cache. Usually, the operating system is very good about keeping the ARC in check. (See also: zfs, zfs best practices, zfs evil tuning guide, arc summary)[20:48:19] *** linux00002 has joined #openindiana[20:48:37] <willie> I'd like to take this bot away somewhaer quiet and cuddle it[20:49:00] <willie> smrt: explain zfs best practice[20:49:00] <smrt> Um. I seem to not know anything about zfs best practice...[20:49:06] <willie> smrt: explain zfs best practices[20:49:06] <smrt> http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide[20:49:35] <willie> OK the rest of you can have your channel back for a bit[20:50:13] <nahamu> willie: I think you can /msg questions to smrt too[20:54:24] <willie> cool[20:55:14] *** enmand has quit IRC[20:59:08] *** paperino has quit IRC[20:59:10] *** _paperino has joined #openindiana[20:59:49] *** rubencic has joined #openindiana[21:00:20] *** rubencic has left #openindiana[21:00:42] *** melliott has quit IRC[21:01:43] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[21:06:16] *** melliott has joined #openindiana[21:07:28] *** Sloar has quit IRC[21:10:59] *** linux00002 has quit IRC[21:12:50] *** linux00002 has joined #openindiana[21:18:41] *** Darkproger has quit IRC[21:19:19] *** melliott has quit IRC[21:20:33] *** Darkproger has joined #openindiana[21:29:42] *** Darkproger has quit IRC[21:31:41] *** easy-iPad has joined #openindiana[21:36:07] <RoyK> vinyl or cd which sounds better??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5dCMz4gKLI[21:37:24] *** krystal has quit IRC[21:37:41] *** krystal has joined #openindiana[21:40:52] <Aethrs> If there's a video on that(with digital sound) it's kind of sad.[21:42:21] *** easy-iPad has quit IRC[21:42:37] *** easy-iPad has joined #openindiana[21:45:48] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #openindiana[21:49:09] *** Latent22 has joined #openindiana[21:49:31] *** melliott has joined #openindiana[21:53:31] *** _wilsonkk_ has quit IRC[21:56:21] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[21:58:39] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[22:06:05] *** _wilsonkk_ has joined #openindiana[22:11:59] *** easy-iPad has quit IRC[22:23:50] *** APTX has quit IRC[22:25:06] *** melliott has quit IRC[22:26:53] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[22:29:26] *** melliott has joined #openindiana[22:33:08] *** pothos_ has joined #openindiana[22:34:17] *** pothos has quit IRC[22:34:38] *** linux00002 has quit IRC[22:34:50] *** linux00002 has joined #openindiana[22:36:09] *** pothos_ has quit IRC[22:36:25] *** pothos has joined #openindiana[22:39:04] *** pothos has quit IRC[22:39:23] *** pothos has joined #openindiana[22:49:38] <RoyK> hrmf[22:49:41] <RoyK> anyone around?[22:50:09] <Wraithh> nope[22:50:29] <sensille> .[22:50:33] <alanc> all gone[22:50:39] <RoyK> i have a rather bad performance issue on this box - it's got a couple of rather fullish VDEVs, but performance is worse than I'd ever imagined...[22:50:57] <sensille> >96% full?[22:51:11] <RoyK> two VDEVs are >96% full[22:51:19] <RoyK> one 90ish[22:51:21] <RoyK> one less[22:51:31] <RoyK> running 148[22:51:37] <sensille> at 96%, the allocation strategy changes[22:51:50] <sensille> and I've seen that nightmare once[22:51:50] <RoyK> but this is 99% read[22:51:58] <RoyK> so really, it shouldn't be that bad[22:52:22] <sensille> yeah, it was write, dropping to about 0.001% of normal performance[22:52:24] <RoyK> I thought that was at 96% _pool_ fill[22:52:49] <sensille> maybe[22:52:57] <sensille> haven't read the code too closely[22:53:32] *** APTX has joined #openindiana[22:54:30] *** bens1 has quit IRC[22:54:36] <RoyK> seems #1051 has a fix[22:54:41] <sensille> so are the disks busy?[22:55:57] <RoyK> not really http://paste.ubuntu.com/811226/[22:56:09] <RoyK> that's iostat 60 6[22:56:51] <RoyK> pool layout http://paste.ubuntu.com/811227/[23:00:16] <sensille> cpu?[23:00:28] <sensille> busy in kernel?[23:02:11] <RoyK> cpuload is ~15% - looks spread out nicely over the cores - mpstat output follows[23:03:15] <RoyK> this system has worked well for rather a long time, but then, the VDEVs haven't been that full[23:03:18] <RoyK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/811228/[23:03:35] <RoyK> the mirror with c14t21d0 and c14t22d0 is the SLOG[23:06:00] <sensille> #1051 looks at least plausible[23:08:23] <sensille> but again that's for writing[23:09:20] <sensille> on the other hand, you have some write load on the pool[23:15:33] <RoyK> I do, but it's not really a lot[23:16:45] <sensille> can you block the writes for a minute, to see if reads go up?[23:18:03] *** Tenzer has quit IRC[23:24:13] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[23:25:05] *** _404_Error_ has quit IRC[23:27:19] *** kenon has quit IRC[23:29:14] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[23:29:43] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[23:34:25] *** TBFOOL has joined #openindiana[23:36:11] *** TBCOOL has quit IRC[23:39:02] *** Darkproger has joined #openindiana[23:41:07] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[23:43:53] *** kenon has quit IRC[23:44:54] *** Latent22 has quit IRC[23:53:31] *** enmand has joined #openindiana