January 18, 2012 
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Do you know if Richlowe's patches enable GCC to produce a working stage 2 binary?[03:07:43] <alanc> I have no idea[03:08:24] <alanc> I doubt anyone in the world but you has ever tried to build illumos GRUB on a Linux system[03:09:06] *** Licenser_ has joined #openindiana[03:10:44] *** Licenser has quit IRC[03:10:45] *** Licenser_ is now known as Licenser[03:12:44] <WebDawg> gentoofan, ask the makers.[03:14:14] <gentoofan> WebDawg: I have mostly been asking questions in Illumos. I asked a question earlier here about how Open Indiana was built because I found that the GRUB binaries used in Open Indiana enabled my Gentoo system to boot, yet the ones I built on Gentoo wouldn't. After a brief chat, I stepped out. Upon returning, I saw that a few people had highlighted me in the channel with more responses, so I was responding to that.[03:14:57] <gentoofan> To be clear, my questions have mostly been in the #illumos channel, not Illumos itself.[03:17:47] <WebDawg> gentoofan, I am there.[03:18:13] <gentoofan> WebDawg: So am I. :)[03:18:52] <alanc> and rich is everywhere[03:20:04] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[03:29:37] *** Neddie has quit IRC[03:30:07] *** CME has quit IRC[03:31:44] *** ira has joined #openindiana[03:33:05] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[03:33:31] *** randw_ has quit IRC[03:33:56] *** Mech0z has quit IRC[03:40:31] *** CME has joined #openindiana[03:41:33] *** POloser has joined #openindiana[03:58:40] *** grover has joined #openindiana[03:59:42] <grover> hi, trying to download http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/151a/oi-dev-151a-x86.iso and getting "550 failed to change directory", help?[04:04:29] *** n2deep has quit IRC[04:06:06] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[04:06:28] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[04:07:18] *** Shep_Book has quit IRC[04:10:35] * WebDawg http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/sopa-strike/[04:14:51] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[04:16:12] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[04:20:21] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[04:22:46] *** kenon has quit IRC[04:23:48] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[04:24:16] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[04:42:24] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[04:43:45] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[04:50:30] *** kshannon has quit IRC[04:50:41] *** kshannon has joined #openindiana[05:01:14] *** DrLou has quit IRC[05:01:46] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #openindiana[05:07:48] *** analog_ has left #openindiana[05:08:12] *** ira has quit IRC[05:18:30] *** Botanic has quit IRC[05:37:29] *** tuf has quit IRC[05:38:04] *** tuf8 has joined #openindiana[05:42:32] *** bradend has quit IRC[05:48:01] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[05:48:01] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[05:52:13] *** bradend has joined #openindiana[06:04:44] *** n2deep has quit IRC[06:06:35] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[06:25:05] <madwizard> Coffee[06:28:24] *** kenon has quit IRC[06:35:14] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[06:35:27] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[06:40:34] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[06:48:18] <herzen> madwizard: you're lucky. you can read Wikipedia articles in your language.[06:48:44] <madwizard> Yup[06:49:11] <madwizard> And I can have coffee in any language[06:49:51] <herzen> coffee is best had in Italian (not that I speak Italian).[07:06:58] *** _wilsonkk_ has quit IRC[07:18:57] *** _wilsonkk_ has joined #openindiana[07:21:34] *** descipher has joined #openindiana[07:23:19] *** descipher_ has quit IRC[07:32:20] *** ocherno has joined #openindiana[07:51:30] *** dvx has joined #openindiana[07:58:19] *** ocherno has quit IRC[08:04:08] *** n2deep has quit IRC[08:06:07] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[08:07:13] *** bradend1 has joined #openindiana[08:07:41] *** RobbieCrash has quit IRC[08:14:33] <richlowe> read wookieepedia articles on the same topics, they likely exist.[08:14:36] <richlowe> those folks document _everything_[08:15:33] *** axisys has quit IRC[08:15:50] <richlowe> "Unidentified swamp planet", etc.[08:16:53] *** bradend has quit IRC[08:16:53] *** esbjerg has quit IRC[08:16:53] *** Crypticfortune has quit IRC[08:16:54] *** xdnny_ has quit IRC[08:16:54] *** OMV-User has quit IRC[08:17:56] *** esbjerg has joined #openindiana[08:17:57] *** Crypticfortune has joined #openindiana[08:17:57] *** xdnny_ has joined #openindiana[08:17:57] *** OMV-User has joined #openindiana[08:19:32] <Agnar> hehe[08:21:13] <Agnar> The article you requested (Yellow Coffe Cup) does not exist. - sorry lblume even wookipedia does not know anything about your cup ;)[08:26:04] *** Licenser has quit IRC[08:29:15] *** axisys has joined #openindiana[08:30:35] <madwizard> :)[08:39:04] <Agnar> good morning madwizard ;)[08:41:30] *** Worsoe has joined #openindiana[08:41:32] <madwizard> :)[08:43:20] *** n2deep has quit IRC[08:44:19] <Garo__> are the linux based zones still supported in OI?[08:45:20] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[08:45:23] <Garo__> I might have a software which is available only as Linux x86 binary, so I'm thinking if I could run it inside a linux zone. I did that trick with OpenSolaris a few years ago, but the linux zones aren't supported any more with Solaris 11, but I don't know about OI[08:48:27] <Agnar> Garo__: pkg search lx[08:50:06] *** tsoome has quit IRC[08:50:19] *** n2deep_ has joined #openindiana[08:51:08] *** n2deep has quit IRC[08:51:11] <Garo__> Agnar: thanks! I had already forgot the "lx" name for that feature[08:51:27] <Agnar> garo: you're welcome[08:52:29] *** kenon has quit IRC[08:55:19] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[08:56:58] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[09:01:30] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[09:17:18] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[09:28:28] *** kenon has quit IRC[09:30:43] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[09:34:42] *** LeftWing has quit IRC[09:34:50] *** LeftWing has joined #openindiana[09:50:23] *** flyz has joined #openindiana[09:51:53] *** Gugge has quit IRC[09:53:34] *** Gugge has joined #openindiana[09:55:44] *** ironmunk has quit IRC[10:03:07] *** tsoome has quit IRC[10:05:19] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[10:05:53] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[10:09:04] *** Licenser has joined #openindiana[10:09:51] *** ironmunk has joined #openindiana[10:17:26] *** Licenser has quit IRC[10:17:54] *** Licenser has joined #openindiana[10:26:14] <lblume> madwizard: Enjoy that fresh morning coffee in that yellow coffee cup advertising a Beijing gym. Enjoy it... It might not last....[10:28:43] *** Whoopsie has joined #openindiana[10:28:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Whoopsie[10:30:18] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[10:50:53] *** Tenzer has joined #openindiana[10:59:09] *** LeftWing has quit IRC[10:59:11] *** LeftWing__ has joined #openindiana[11:02:10] *** alcir has joined #openindiana[11:08:29] *** Botanic has quit IRC[11:15:58] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[11:15:58] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[11:19:46] *** jw_urodoc_de has joined #openindiana[11:23:03] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[11:23:44] *** wickedwonka has quit IRC[11:24:56] *** master_of_master has joined #openindiana[11:26:38] *** n2deep_ has quit IRC[11:28:27] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[11:30:07] <Garo__> Agnar: would you happen to know how I can obtain GLIBC_2.3.4 into my linux zone? Seems that at least yum can't find any package repositories[11:34:32] *** Wilbs has joined #openindiana[11:42:02] <madwizard> lblume: I enjoy my coffee in my steel cup. I lasts[11:44:21] *** floogy has joined #openindiana[11:45:47] <floogy> Hi, I got my oi joined to the ad and can connect and copy to the cifs and afpd share. But I have to manage users manually in the config files I guess.[11:47:16] <floogy> the afpd writes /2eDS_Store and .DS_Store, ist that /2eDS_Store (:2eDS_Store under Windows) as expected?[11:51:39] *** auronandace has quit IRC[11:51:47] *** Mech0z has joined #openindiana[11:52:39] *** R_Lex has quit IRC[11:53:55] <floogy> ok, got it. I have to use options:usedots in AppleVolumes.default http://serverfault.com/questions/98259/how-can-i-get-rid-of-hide-2eds-store-files-on-my-linux-netatalk-server[12:04:34] *** heldus has quit IRC[12:09:52] *** johest has joined #openindiana[12:09:52] *** johest has quit IRC[12:09:52] *** johest has joined #openindiana[12:13:15] *** auronandace has joined #openindiana[12:17:03] *** TomJ has joined #openindiana[12:17:17] *** jw_urodoc_de has quit IRC[12:22:08] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[12:22:09] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[12:22:12] *** auronandace has quit IRC[12:26:55] *** auronandace has joined #openindiana[12:28:01] *** LeftWing__ is now known as LeftWing[12:36:19] *** heldus has joined #openindiana[12:49:19] <floogy> The :2eDS_Store were created due to an typo in AppleVolumes.default, which leads into omit the interpretation of the line with that needet option:usedots. I deleted the created :2eDS_Store files this way:[12:49:33] <floogy> find /Tank/cifs1/Test/ -name '\:2eDS_Store' -exec ad rm {} \;[12:52:19] <Tenzer> What's the "ad" part after -exec for?[12:54:55] <tsoome> ad is netatalk command[12:55:53] <Tenzer> Ah, I have never used that :P[12:58:41] *** jollyd has joined #openindiana[13:00:36] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[13:09:52] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[13:10:59] *** jollyd has quit IRC[13:13:16] *** POloser has left #openindiana[13:23:50] *** kimc has quit IRC[13:24:44] *** kimc has joined #openindiana[13:25:10] *** Wilbs has quit IRC[13:29:51] *** jMCg has quit IRC[13:33:28] *** jollyd has joined #openindiana[13:34:00] *** jMCg has joined #openindiana[13:35:22] *** ira has joined #openindiana[13:37:39] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[13:37:44] *** jollyd has quit IRC[13:40:07] *** kenon has quit IRC[13:42:20] *** kohju_ has quit IRC[13:43:23] *** rame has quit IRC[13:44:57] *** rame has joined #openindiana[13:47:07] *** kohju_ has joined #openindiana[13:54:54] *** enmand has quit IRC[13:56:20] *** feizhou_ has joined #openindiana[13:59:50] *** feizhou__ has quit IRC[14:02:48] *** feizhou_ is now known as feizhou[14:04:02] *** n2deep has quit IRC[14:06:35] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[14:06:39] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[14:06:49] *** feizhou is now known as freetown[14:10:01] *** gerard13 has quit IRC[14:10:28] *** gerard13 has joined #openindiana[14:17:58] *** Zenos has joined #openindiana[14:21:01] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[14:21:45] *** randw has joined #openindiana[14:23:45] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[14:28:37] *** jkoshy has joined #openindiana[14:37:45] <jkoshy> The links to the MD5 checksums on the Download page seem to be broken[14:37:53] <jkoshy> E.g.- http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/151a/oi-dev-151a-text-x86.iso.md5[14:39:10] <Tenzer> jkoshy: It works fine for me[14:39:17] <Tenzer> I tried all four DLC mirrors[14:40:24] <Tenzer> Do you get any error message, or what happens on your side?[14:43:08] <Tenzer> jkoshy: Are you talking about the links on http://dlc.openindiana.org/ ?[14:44:43] <Meths> http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/151a/oi-dev-151a-x86.usb.md5[14:44:55] <Meths> Tenzer: What do you get for that from all mirrors?[14:45:42] *** tsoome_ has joined #openindiana[14:45:46] *** tsoome has quit IRC[14:45:47] *** tsoome_ is now known as tsoome[14:48:23] <jkoshy> Tenzer: Sorry, browser snafu on my side; I'm able to use 'wget' to get the file.[14:49:23] *** dvx has quit IRC[14:49:30] *** tsoome_ has joined #openindiana[14:50:08] *** tsoome has quit IRC[14:50:08] *** tsoome_ is now known as tsoome[14:50:17] <Tenzer> jkoshy: Okay :)[14:50:21] <Meths> Weird, Tenzer, ignore me.[14:50:49] <Meths> Firefox seems to do weird things with files, one sha1 it just shows me, the other it asks if I want to download...[14:51:40] <Tenzer> Meths: The geodns setup returns IP addresses of two of the DLC mirrors at random, your requests may go to different mirrors, which handle the files differently :/[14:52:12] <Tenzer> Ideally the mirrors should handle the checksum files the same way, but no work has gone into that for now[14:53:03] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[14:55:58] *** flyz has quit IRC[14:56:31] *** CoilDomain has joined #openindiana[14:56:33] <patdk-wk> how odd[14:56:45] *** flyz has joined #openindiana[14:56:50] <patdk-wk> setup a e1000g nic, added vlan[14:56:52] <patdk-wk> and it works[14:57:07] <patdk-wk> except for ipv6, the ipv6 non-vlan is going out the vlan port[14:58:18] <tomww> sure that not the whole interface is now on that vlan?[14:58:26] <patdk-wk> yep, ip4 works fine[15:00:27] <Alasdairrr> Tenzer: we should have an Apache VirtualHost config we mandate[15:00:32] <Alasdairrr> which sets mime types and stuff[15:00:32] <patdk-wk> hmm, might be a ip6 routing table issue[15:01:52] <patdk-wk> http://pastebin.com/ubPJy3Pv[15:02:02] *** movement has quit IRC[15:02:17] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[15:02:29] <patdk-wk> in tcpdump on my router, I get the source of IP6 2001:470:e0b8:1:230:48ff:fe8a:967e, coming in over vlan4[15:03:42] <Tenzer> Alasdairrr: It's probably easier to send a .htaccess file around to the mirrors which sets the settings for the DLC part of the server only[15:04:25] <Alasdairrr> Tenzer: good idea[15:05:05] <Tenzer> Alasdairrr: I can look into it one of the next days, if you don't want to spend time on it[15:05:27] <Alasdairrr> that'd be neat[15:05:33] <Tenzer> We can just start of with setting the mime types, and assure directly listing is enabled[15:05:43] <Alasdairrr> *nods*[15:06:08] <Tenzer> Later a bit of styling on the directory listing could come, perhaps inspired by the German mirror: http://dlc-1.de.openindiana.org/isos/[15:06:55] <Alasdairrr> yeah i love that[15:11:10] *** descipher has quit IRC[15:11:36] *** descipher has joined #openindiana[15:18:56] *** ira has joined #openindiana[15:26:29] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[15:26:29] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[15:41:12] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[15:46:21] *** tsoome_ has joined #openindiana[15:47:47] *** jollyd has joined #openindiana[15:47:50] *** tsoome has quit IRC[15:47:50] *** tsoome_ is now known as tsoome[15:55:00] *** tsoome_ has joined #openindiana[15:55:19] *** tsoome__ has joined #openindiana[15:55:19] *** tsoome_ has quit IRC[15:58:26] *** tsoome has quit IRC[15:58:26] *** tsoome__ is now known as tsoome[16:03:53] *** Wilbs has joined #openindiana[16:04:48] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[16:04:53] *** n2deep has quit IRC[16:05:33] *** DrLou_ has joined #openindiana[16:05:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrLou_[16:05:35] *** tsoome has quit IRC[16:06:46] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[16:08:29] <floogy> Tenzer, regarding that netatalk ad command. It is for updating the CNID database and .AppleDouble files according the file actions.[16:09:50] <floogy> I got issues with LDAP/netatalk. I'm not sure how that afp_ldap.conf in my situation might work.[16:11:19] <Tenzer> floogy: Okay. It just looked a bit odd to me, since the complete find command would have worked just fine if you left out the "ad" part :)[16:11:48] *** n2deep_ has joined #openindiana[16:13:39] <floogy> afpd[4100] {ldap.c:181} (E:Default): ldap: ldap_search_st failed: No such object, retrycount: 0 if I use kerberos notation for ldap_auth_dn, and {ldap.c:163} (E:Default): ldap: ldap_bind failed: ldap_auth_dn: 'cn=Administrator,dc=hwgdom,dc=local', ldap_auth_pw: 'Administrator', ldap_auth_method: '128' if I use cn=Administrator,dc=domain,dc=org[16:14:23] *** n2deep has quit IRC[16:15:09] *** Shep_Book has joined #openindiana[16:15:40] <floogy> Tenzer, yes that works fine, but the CNID database is not updated and Mac OsX then might find those non existant files or somting else odd.[16:16:32] *** ripratm has joined #openindiana[16:17:42] <floogy> Therefor I'm not sure if it will work well to share the same volume at the same time by smbd/cifs and netatalk/afp to different users.[16:20:08] <floogy> I thought, that ldap_auth_pw might be the password for authentify the client to the LDAP server, but the man page gives the same explanation for ldap_auth_dn: Distinguished Name of the user for simple bind.[16:21:07] *** analog_ has joined #openindiana[16:21:08] <floogy> I'm also not sure if the ldap_server is now localhost or srv-dom.mydom.local... :P[16:22:53] <floogy> Anyway it doesnb't work either with ldap_auth_pw 123456mypassword (for Administrator of AD) nor with ath_method none.[16:23:35] <floogy> s/ath_method/ldap_auth_method/[16:25:26] *** raichoo has quit IRC[16:27:35] *** Licenser has quit IRC[16:27:36] *** synegy34 has joined #openindiana[16:29:25] *** rame has quit IRC[16:30:44] *** kovert has quit IRC[16:39:52] *** kart_ has quit IRC[16:40:59] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[16:46:43] *** APTX has quit IRC[16:48:18] *** SH0x has quit IRC[16:48:37] *** mikaeld has quit IRC[16:49:54] *** APTX has joined #openindiana[16:50:56] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[16:52:20] *** kart__ has joined #openindiana[16:52:42] *** Wilbs has quit IRC[16:52:44] *** jkoshy has quit IRC[16:53:18] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[16:54:30] *** kart_ has quit IRC[16:54:35] *** jkoshy has joined #openindiana[16:55:23] *** Licenser has joined #openindiana[17:00:56] *** kovert has joined #openindiana[17:06:34] *** Licenser has quit IRC[17:09:07] *** laogrymt has joined #openindiana[17:09:27] *** Licenser has joined #openindiana[17:11:05] *** gb_away has joined #openindiana[17:19:10] <disharmony> is it correct zfs user properties are _always_ inherited by child datasets? And is this by design? It would be quite usefull to have zfs user properties per dataset instead of always recursive[17:22:26] *** laogrymt has quit IRC[17:23:58] *** alcir has quit IRC[17:27:38] *** melliott has quit IRC[17:35:13] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[17:35:58] *** jkoshy has left #openindiana[17:39:34] <doug_ndndn> hi all, having to replace a failed disk in fcal, zpool status shows this: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/536795/ ... is this normal?[17:40:37] <doug_ndndn> its seems way too long - and im confused by the 's0/o'[17:43:47] <tsoome> its notation its using for old device[17:44:07] <tsoome> that one is normal, however, too many errors is not good sign.[17:44:30] <tsoome> are those real IO errors or checksum errors?[17:44:42] <doug_ndndn> no idea[17:45:01] <tsoome> iostat -En and dmesg[17:45:28] <tsoome> if those are IO errors, your log should have quite many messages about those[17:48:22] <doug_ndndn> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/536799/ # this is in dmesg at the moment i issued zpool replace ...[17:50:30] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[17:54:20] <tsoome> so, those are the checksum errors.[17:55:20] <tsoome> you are replacing the disk with itself?[17:55:36] <doug_ndndn> well, a new disk in its slot[17:56:27] <tsoome> hm, thats interesting…[17:56:55] <tsoome> what can you try is to zpool detach broken disk and then zpool attach.[17:57:12] <doug_ndndn> i was going to ask exactly that - cheers[17:57:46] <tsoome> replace should do as well tbh[17:58:54] <tsoome> still its interesting it got only 2.71M resilvered and failed with checksum errors[17:59:02] <doug_ndndn> ok its detached,[17:59:15] <doug_ndndn> mirror DEGRADED 0 0 0[17:59:15] <doug_ndndn> c5t500508B3009407F1d13 ONLINE 0 0 0[17:59:15] <doug_ndndn> c5t500508B3009407F1d14 FAULTED 0 0 0 corrupted data[18:00:03] <doug_ndndn> next step is: zpool attach dpool ...d13 ...d14 ?[18:00:24] <tsoome> if its detached, then it shouldnt have mirror;)[18:00:30] <doug_ndndn> hmm[18:00:35] <tsoome> zpool status should list only d13[18:00:42] <Licenser> stop the corruption! And quick don't tell the police[18:00:57] <doug_ndndn> ok - will try another detach[18:01:28] <tsoome> well, the first one did clear up replace;)[18:02:19] *** mikaeld has joined #openindiana[18:02:40] <doug_ndndn> mirror ONLINE 0 0 0[18:02:41] <doug_ndndn> c5t500508B3009407F1d13 ONLINE 0 0 0[18:02:41] <doug_ndndn> c5t500508B3009407F1d14 ONLINE 0 0 0 2.26M resilvered[18:02:42] <doug_ndndn> super[18:02:48] <doug_ndndn> that looks much better[18:02:58] <doug_ndndn> cheers![18:03:16] <doug_ndndn> really confused by the initial 'replace' not working[18:04:20] <tsoome> once its done resilvering, you may run scrub for an check[18:04:49] <tsoome> before replace, did you offline old disk?[18:06:44] <doug_ndndn> no - what i read suggested replace was enough[18:06:46] <doug_ndndn> :/[18:06:55] <tsoome> ah, that explains.[18:08:33] *** jw_urodoc has quit IRC[18:08:43] <tsoome> the procedure is, zpool offline the broken disk, then cfgadm -c unconfigure to announce IO stack that this disk should be removed from IO stack, then replace physical disk (online if your hardware supports hotplug), cfgadm -c configure (if needed) and zpool replace.[18:09:37] <doug_ndndn> duly noted[18:09:39] <patdk-wk> tsoome, is there a way to do it with a spare disk?[18:09:41] <tsoome> if the hardware does not allow hotswap, then cfgadm unconfigure is not needed since you poweroff the system anyhow[18:10:00] <tsoome> spare disk is "special" one[18:10:01] <patdk-wk> like, I want to change out some drives on a raidz, but don't want to disk killing a drive[18:10:26] <tsoome> if you have spare defined, it will be used automatically[18:10:38] <patdk-wk> not to force[18:10:44] <patdk-wk> only on failure[18:11:37] <patdk-wk> I want to swap out a *good* drive[18:11:45] <lennard> I think you use zpool replace for that[18:12:09] <tsoome> ah, yes, zpool offline old disk and so on[18:12:38] <DrLou_> tsoome: on this zfs discussion - Think I gotta follow your advice from yesterday - but scared![18:12:57] <tsoome> :D did you got it sorted?[18:13:09] *** Tenzer has quit IRC[18:13:42] <lennard> I managed to break a intel sasuc8i bios :([18:13:52] <lennard> now it saus 'mpt bios fault 0dh'![18:13:55] <lennard> says*[18:14:07] <lennard> but I'll probably be fine when I put the old bios back in :)[18:15:54] <tsoome> patdk-wk: such replaces are pretty normal if you wanna replace all disks in pool with larger one to get more space without adding new vdevs.[18:16:25] <patdk-wk> yep[18:16:33] <patdk-wk> but I wanted to do it witohut offlining the first disk[18:16:57] <DrLou_> tsoome: no, not yet sorted - but can't find any other way forward.[18:17:16] <DrLou_> am a bit terrified to pull and format an rpool drive, though.[18:17:32] *** Nitial has quit IRC[18:17:50] <tsoome> well, you actually have several options DrLou_[18:18:27] <tsoome> one thing is detach one disk, so you will have your rpool with single disk and "uninitialised" second disk[18:18:39] <tsoome> another option is to use zpool split[18:18:53] <tsoome> in that case you have 2 identicl pools[18:18:58] <tsoome> +a[18:19:18] *** blu has quit IRC[18:19:20] *** Nitial has joined #openindiana[18:19:25] <tsoome> the good side is that you can play around with new pool you got from split[18:19:47] <tsoome> scrub, export/import etc[18:20:08] *** n2deep_ has quit IRC[18:20:42] <tsoome> which is even better if you can move that disk into another (healthy) system[18:21:30] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[18:22:52] *** girafe has joined #openindiana[18:23:17] <tsoome> also to get an copy of rpool, beadm is good way because it will create bootable system on second disk, while preserving old BE on original rpool, also beadm will do file based copy and is not depending on snapshot[18:24:38] *** blu has joined #openindiana[18:24:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o blu[18:27:57] <DrLou_> tsoome: back, sorry - 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seeing a problem compiling C++ code with -m32 vs -m64. In 64 bit, bad_alloc is not thrown/caught & I get a segfault. https://gist.github.com/1635174[21:04:12] *** [1]kimc has joined #openindiana[21:05:59] *** kimc has quit IRC[21:05:59] *** [1]kimc is now known as kimc[21:14:30] *** cpny has joined #openindiana[21:14:40] *** heldus has joined #openindiana[21:22:19] <justinsb> Actually, it looks like it's not specific to bad_alloc: https://gist.github.com/1635304[21:33:40] *** feizhou_ has joined #openindiana[21:34:35] *** wickedwonka has joined #openindiana[21:37:10] *** freetown has quit IRC[21:39:57] *** jollyd has joined #openindiana[21:44:40] *** enmand has quit IRC[21:45:43] *** raichoo has quit IRC[21:48:10] *** girafe has quit IRC[22:03:15] *** bens1 has quit IRC[22:05:09] *** n2deep_ has quit IRC[22:07:13] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[22:07:20] *** JonS_ has joined #openindiana[22:07:25] <JonS_> Help building a new oi_151a live ISO via distro_const, but include my nightly build of illumos-gate, I can supply access, details at http://www.pastie.org/3209659[22:08:35] <JonS_> I don't know how to setup svc:/application/pkg/server or modify my new_slim_cd_x86.xml to include my illumos-gate[22:08:38] *** jollyd has quit IRC[22:13:39] <JonS_> I guess I will post in #illumos[22:13:45] *** JonS_ has left #openindiana[22:21:03] *** jollyd has joined #openindiana[22:35:44] *** feizhou_ has quit IRC[22:48:30] *** feizhou_ has joined #openindiana[22:49:14] *** _wilsonkk_ has quit IRC[22:53:08] *** kenon has quit IRC[22:55:01] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[23:02:19] *** _wilsonkk_ has joined #openindiana[23:06:25] *** gregburd has quit IRC[23:12:48] *** Tenzer has quit IRC[23:17:16] *** ira has joined #openindiana[23:17:34] *** Alasdairrr has quit IRC[23:17:42] *** todd2 has joined #openindiana[23:18:18] *** Alasdairrr has joined #openindiana[23:18:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alasdairrr[23:22:30] <todd2> hi. i'm running openindiana on a server my company is using. it seems the form system admin we used did a bad job of setting up the partition, and i have minimal knowledge of ZFS. I installed pkgutil to manage packages, but it seems space is depleted to where its installing packages. i'd basically like to re-organize the partition properly. Anyone available and have the expertise to pm to facilitate this? I would greatly appre[23:22:37] *** ira has quit IRC[23:22:38] <todd2> former*[23:26:30] *** girafe has joined #openindiana[23:32:53] <patdk-wk> heh? normally you don't use partitions[23:35:11] *** McBofh has quit IRC[23:36:21] <todd2> okay, probably just using the wrong terminology then. how could i give a filesystem more space? expand how much of whatever disk space it occupies?[23:36:38] *** gregburd has joined #openindiana[23:37:07] <todd2> and how do the storage devices map to the actual zfs file systems.. is there a command to see that?[23:38:04] <lblume> the rpool where the packages probably live will use partitions,that might be too small[23:38:15] <bdha> todd2: ZFS is pooled storage. Datasets are like "volumes" in LVM.[23:38:30] <bdha> todd2: zpool status -v will show you how your pools are constructed (the underlying hard drives).[23:38:41] <bdha> zpool list will show you pool usage (before parity).[23:38:52] <bdha> And zfs list will show you dataset usage.[23:39:15] <bdha> zfs get all <dataset> will show you the attributes associated with a given dataset.[23:39:20] <bdha> ie, if compression is enabled, or if a quota is set on it.[23:41:06] <todd2> okay, thanks.. that's extremely helpful.. two things: if a dataset has no more space available, is there a way to give it excess space from another one? and how can i fix a pool that's been marked degraded?[23:41:33] <bdha> Datasets by default share the space of the entire pool. If there is a quota on the pool, you can change the quota with "zfs set quota=whatever <dataset>".[23:41:40] <bdha> A degraded pool means a disk is dead or unavail.[23:41:42] *** feizhou__ has joined #openindiana[23:41:45] <bdha> You need to replace the disk.[23:41:47] <tsoome> if dataset has no more space, it can happen on 2 cases - either you have quota on it or your pool is full[23:41:49] <bdha> You should read the zpool and zfs man pages.[23:42:00] <bdha> Further, the ZFS Admin Guide on oracle.com.[23:42:56] <todd2> okay, will do. can i just de-activate that disk that failed for the time-being so the rest of the pool isn't affected?[23:43:32] <tsoome> zpool offline[23:43:34] <todd2> ill go do more reading now though either way.. thanks a lot[23:43:55] <bdha> todd2: Can you nopaste zpool status -v?[23:44:03] <bdha> (ie dpaste.com or pastebin.com)[23:44:49] *** patdk-lap has quit IRC[23:44:49] *** Patrickdk has quit IRC[23:45:11] *** feizhou_ has quit IRC[23:45:40] <todd2> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=zVBKQELC[23:45:49] *** patdk-lap has joined #openindiana[23:46:28] *** Patrickdk has joined #openindiana[23:47:10] <tsoome> ah your rpool is full….[23:47:21] <bdha> todd2: Yup.[23:47:28] <bdha> todd2: Your tank pool can sustain one more disk failure.[23:47:33] <bdha> todd2: And then it will be Dead.[23:49:04] <todd2> that's frightening.. well, how can i give the rpool more space from the tank pool?[23:49:23] <todd2> and what should i do besides fix that disk to fix the tank pool and prevent that from happening?[23:49:49] *** McBofh has joined #openindiana[23:50:53] <bdha> todd2: Just replace the disk. With RAIDZ2 you can sustain two disks failures, so you'll likely be fine. But you should definitely replace it.[23:51:06] <bdha> todd2: In terms of freeing up space... you should just go figure out what is eating all your space in rpool.[23:51:16] <bdha> You could also move ~ivan to tank.[23:51:34] <tsoome> thats too small to help anything[23:51:49] <tsoome> you have 15GB used by / fs, its probably pkg cache[23:51:55] <bdha> Or BEs.[23:51:57] <bdha> beadm list?[23:52:23] <todd2> can i move the / fs to tank?[23:52:27] <tsoome> no[23:52:30] <todd2> okay.[23:53:52] <tsoome> you can pkg set-property flush-content-cache-on-success True, but for that you need to free some space first[23:54:27] <tsoome> probably easiest is to destroy old (non-current) be[23:54:39] <tsoome> check beadm list and destroy inactive one[23:55:11] <lennard> now I'm no expert so I wouldnt know how to, but couldnt you reduce the swap to recover some space for rpool?[23:55:15] <tsoome> that zfs list suggests you have openindiana and pre_napp-it-0.6i_update_12.11[23:55:25] <tsoome> thats possible as well[23:56:26] <todd2> and how would i go about doing that, if you don't mind giving details on how to shift some space from swap to rpool[23:56:38] <tsoome> swap -d /dev/zvol/dsk/rpool/swap, then you can zfs destroy rpool/swap[23:56:48] <todd2> BE Active Mountpoint Space Policy Created[23:56:48] <todd2> openindiana NR / 15.3G static 2011-12-06 16:40[23:56:48] <todd2> pre_napp-it-0.6i_update_12.11 - - 38.0K static 2011-12-11 07:07[23:56:52] *** noahmehl has left #openindiana[23:57:06] *** CoilDomain has quit IRC[23:57:25] <bdha> welp.[23:57:30] <todd2> root@tehran:/# swap -d /dev/zvol/dsk/rpool/swap[23:57:30] <todd2> /dev/zvol/dsk/rpool/swap: Not enough space[23:57:35] <tsoome> ah[23:57:37] <bdha> You could also remove the dump device.[23:57:54] <todd2> zfs destroy rpool/dump ?[23:57:54] <tsoome> your ram is too small - you need to free some[23:58:36] <bdha> todd2: Are you sure someone hasn't just dropped a bunch of movies you can go clean up? :)[23:59:20] <tsoome> you can start with beadm destroy pre_napp-it-0.6i_update_12.11, it will release a bit, maybe not too much every bit helps[23:59:28] <tsoome> but*[23:59:57] <todd2> I stopped mysqld, and that allowed me to run that swap -d command you gave earlier