January 17, 2012 
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January 17, 2012 [00:02:19] *** Licenser has joined #openindiana[00:07:16] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[00:08:16] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[00:14:24] *** ech0b1nary has quit IRC[00:16:03] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[00:19:18] *** kenon has quit IRC[00:19:50] <gentoofan> I just found "Copyright (c) 2000 Microsoft Corp." at position 0xD5D478 on a disk that has Open Indiana installed. I also found what looks like the NT bootloader at position 0x10000. Does anyone know what they are doing there?[00:20:50] *** Shep_Book has quit IRC[00:21:14] <gentoofan> Also, does anyone understand how Open Indiana gets GRUB to work? I am trying to figure it out.[00:21:49] *** brougham has quit IRC[00:25:07] <tomww> the first 443 bytes, then teh partition which is marked "active" .. thats how it works[00:25:21] *** brougham has joined #openindiana[00:25:59] *** wiseen has joined #openindiana[00:26:21] <gentoofan> tomww: I take it that it writes the stage2 bootloader in the active partition. Do you know exactly where it has room for that?[00:27:57] <tomww> every partition used by UFS or ZFS has enough free blocks at the beginning, but I have no numbers where stage2 resides.[00:28:50] <Triskelios> at the very beginning of the partition, just as the boot block portion of the MBR is at the first cylinder[00:28:59] <tomww> the stuff you found might be on a differen non-active partition *or* it is in a place where in an earlier incarnation the window stuff was and the ZFS stuff does'nt overwrite this particular area[00:29:18] <Triskelios> the same stage2 can be used in the MBR[00:29:21] <gentoofan> tomww: The thing is that this is a VM that had a disk that was zero filled prior to installation.[00:29:50] *** brougham has quit IRC[00:30:01] <gentoofan> Triskelios: This is strange. I am trying to use illumos grub to boot Linux off ZFS, but it keeps complaining that it cannot find a file at the commandline. I took a look at the disk layout to try to get some clues.[00:30:31] *** Savis has quit IRC[00:30:45] <Triskelios> sorry, stage1 is the boot block[00:30:49] <Triskelios> stage2 lives on a filesystem[00:31:00] <tomww> illumos grub can read-only-read ZFS, so it can access the linux ramdisk/initrd.[00:31:48] <gentoofan> From the instructions that I read involving installgrub, I was under the impression that stage2 was being installed right after the MBR. I tried both stage1_5 and stage2 and I seem to have gotten the furthest with stage2.[00:32:19] <Triskelios> gentoofan: no. there is no space except for stage1. stage1 has stage2's CHS or LBA address hardcoded[00:32:28] <tomww> probably there is code in grub which tries to verify that the zfs filesystem seen it the correct one matching the bootenvironmen name (just an idea, not verified)[00:33:26] <gentoofan> Triskelios: I somehow managed to get stage1 to load stage2. I know because I installed stage1 using dd and then stage1_5 right behind the MBR. When booting, I saw a message saying "GRUB". Then I tried again using stage2 after the MBR and I got the GRUB command prompt. The documentation indicates that this can work.[00:34:02] <gentoofan> I have 6 disks and two partitions. One partition is a 64MB ZFS volume mirrored across the disks and the other uses raidz2. The bootable flag is on the first partition on each disk. I am trying to get GRUB to read the filesystem from the first partition, but every indication shows that it is failing. :/[00:34:38] <DrLou_> ZFS/pool experts (speaking of mirrored rpools) - may I run something by you?[00:34:46] <Triskelios> gentoofan: you may overwrite valid data if you insert stage2 in the VBR[00:35:00] <gentoofan> Triskelios: The VBR?[00:35:14] <DrLou_> I've (again) got checksum errors appearing at the pool level, propagating to both members of the mirror...[00:35:17] <Triskelios> the beginning of the partition[00:35:20] <gentoofan> I put the first partition at sector 2048. There should be no data between the MBR and the first partition.[00:35:30] <gentoofan> Stage2 is less than 200KB.[00:35:35] <DrLou_> how terrified should I be?[00:35:55] <tomww> pointing to a partition is in the ZFS case not enough, the zfs filesystem is specified explicitly with boot-fs=rpool/<zfs_filesystem_number>[00:36:02] <tomww> only then cou can load a ramdisk or kernel[00:36:24] <gentoofan> tomww: Wait... does the bootfs explicitly need to be set to a valid? I thought it was true/false.[00:36:30] <gentoofan> s/valid/value/[00:36:50] <tomww> you can have thousands of filesystems in rpool, which one should it choose?[00:36:59] <gentoofan> There is only a single filesystem in it. :/[00:37:00] *** brougham has joined #openindiana[00:37:24] <gentoofan> I will take another look at it and try again. Thanks.[00:37:35] <tomww> bootfs without the -[00:37:48] <Triskelios> gentoofan: the offset of the beginning of the partition doesn't matter... 200K is very potentially overwriting an uberblock or VTOC label if you're using one[00:37:56] <tomww> you need to specify anyways the number of that filesystem[00:38:03] <tomww> not the name[00:38:07] <Triskelios> gentoofan: that's the whole point of multistaging GRUB. only the VBR is safe to use[00:38:38] *** jfire has left #openindiana[00:38:44] <tomww> the number of that filesystem can be read with zdb I think[00:40:02] <tomww> e.g. /usr/sbin/zdb -d rpool/ROOT/linuxboot[00:40:11] <tomww> you see "ID" with a number[00:40:48] <tomww> I have ID 419[00:41:09] *** brougham has quit IRC[00:42:15] <wiseen> anyone here knows enough about ZFS DMU API ? AFAIK DMU implements finegrained locking - would it be possible to use it locking/transaction mechanism to develop a key/value store directly on top of DMU from user-space ?[00:42:37] <DrLou_> gang: any thoughts on my checksum errors on rpool question?[00:44:24] *** LizardKing has quit IRC[00:45:05] <patdk-wk> drlou, you are running ecc memory + cpu right?[00:45:09] <Triskelios> wiseen: #illumos - but there are no direct userspace interfaces in existence[00:45:43] <DrLou_> patdk-wk: No - (and had a feeling someone would be heading there... )[00:46:00] <patdk-wk> that was the issue for me, atleast[00:46:06] <wiseen> Triskelios, i was under the impression that zfs CLI tools use DMU from userspace ?[00:46:07] <patdk-wk> had bad ram stick[00:46:22] <DrLou_> Thing is, how to diagnose definitvely...?[00:46:30] <patdk-wk> reboot into ram checker[00:46:36] <DrLou_> I know memtest - but mem often checks out OK.[00:46:44] <Triskelios> wiseen: no[00:47:00] *** ruse39 has quit IRC[00:47:04] *** jollyd has joined #openindiana[00:47:08] <DrLou_> is there a preferred stress test? (you can imagine, I'm 'into' diagnostics...![00:47:23] *** ruse39 has joined #openindiana[00:47:37] <Triskelios> wiseen: you can run all of ZFS in userspace for testing though[00:48:24] <DrLou_> patdk-wk: sorry, you're referring to memtest, or another tool?[00:48:30] *** DeviceZer0 has joined #openindiana[00:48:38] *** ianh has quit IRC[00:48:39] <patdk-wk> basically memtest[00:48:40] <wiseen> Triskelios, yeah but it would totally defeat the point of using ZFS DMU layer - ideally I would be able to start different processes that would operate on same zpool and use finegrained locking to access blocks[00:48:43] <gentoofan> Triskelios: I had to step out. Anyway, I created my pools using the DOS partitions. Was that wrong?[00:48:51] <wiseen> from what I've seen in the API it should be possible[00:49:27] <wiseen> but only if I can use it in user space process[00:49:41] *** j0nas has quit IRC[00:49:46] *** j0nas has joined #openindiana[00:50:12] *** ruse39 has quit IRC[00:50:14] <DrLou_> patdk-wk: will check it - were your memory problems intermittent, or 'all at once - and permanent'?[00:50:55] <patdk-wk> I was having like a few bad checksums a day[00:51:06] <patdk-wk> memtest says, holy hell, how did anything work[00:51:46] <gentoofan> I see what I did... I put the files under the mount point and they went in the wrong pool. :/[00:52:00] <DrLou_> Yeah, this is why we're having such a heck of a time with this.[00:52:28] <DrLou_> Haven't seen an error in months. Earlier errors chalked up to a (proven) bad CPU.[00:52:40] <DrLou_> memory consistently checks out OK when we test![00:52:47] <patdk-wk> hmm[00:52:57] <DrLou_> Yet, here I am again...[00:53:14] <patdk-wk> only other thing would be bad motherboard I would think[00:53:16] <DrLou_> do you see anything useful in fmadm when this happens?[00:53:18] <patdk-wk> or drive hba[00:53:28] <patdk-wk> been too long ago[00:54:04] <patdk-wk> I think pcie lanes have correction on them, I should check[00:54:05] <DrLou_> brandy-ass new mobo. And the controller is managing several drives - with only the rpool affected (2 drives)[00:54:14] <patdk-wk> I know intel server cpu lines have error correction[00:54:40] <DrLou_> Oh yes - not the 2600K, though[00:54:41] <patdk-wk> sata cables have detection for corruption[00:55:11] <patdk-wk> found bad sata cable via smartctl[00:58:36] *** LizardKing has joined #openindiana[00:59:22] *** brougham has joined #openindiana[01:00:49] <DrLou_> patdk-wk: really? (you don't mean just now??!!) - should check into this; had installed smartctl some time ago.[01:01:18] <DrLou_> (don't think we're having drive issues per se, though, for some reason)[01:02:00] <DrLou_> Would be odd, right? We're seeing (eg) 6 errors at the controller line, and 12 in each of the mirror, and children lines.[01:02:05] <patdk-wk> no, the drive will record if you have cable issues, atleast from computer -> drive[01:02:25] <patdk-wk> kind of odd if both drives have bad cables[01:02:29] <patdk-wk> but dunno what to say[01:02:59] <DrLou_> that's what I mean. really odd if that symmetrical, and simultaneous. Or are my inferences wrong?[01:03:24] *** brougham has quit IRC[01:03:45] <DrLou_> Tks for the input, though. will check smartctl.[01:05:16] *** randw has joined #openindiana[01:15:53] *** randw has quit IRC[01:18:11] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[01:26:56] *** randw has joined #openindiana[01:31:06] *** brougham has joined #openindiana[01:31:22] *** SH0x has joined #openindiana[01:49:31] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[01:51:50] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[01:52:13] *** jollyd has quit IRC[02:03:26] *** brougham has quit IRC[02:14:32] *** Mech0z has quit IRC[02:16:33] *** [noc] has quit IRC[02:19:06] <DrLou_> fwiw patdk-wk - others? - need minimum v4.20 of Memtest86+ for SandyBridge...[02:20:02] *** brougham has joined #openindiana[02:21:42] *** [noc] has joined #openindiana[02:40:37] *** randw has quit IRC[02:42:58] *** dajhorn has quit IRC[02:59:01] *** dajhorn has joined #openindiana[03:08:50] *** vinicius has joined #openindiana[03:10:25] <vinicius> hello, What is the version of smb on 151a?[03:11:57] <gwr> samba 3.5.5[03:12:04] <gwr> if that's what you meant.[03:14:02] *** Licenser_ has joined #openindiana[03:14:30] <vinicius> thanks. but I'm looking for the version of the SMB (Server Message Block). My application need at least SMB 2.1.[03:15:03] <gwr> not there yet in the native SMB.[03:15:13] <gwr> and not there in the shipped version of Samba.[03:15:25] <gwr> You'll need to build a later samba.[03:15:40] <gwr> Just curious, why does your application need SMB 2.1?[03:15:46] *** Licenser has quit IRC[03:15:46] *** Licenser_ is now known as Licenser[03:18:33] <vinicius> i'm joining a storage in a domain server. And the windows team told me that a pre-requisit is use SMB 2.1[03:18:50] <gwr> baloney[03:20:31] <vinicius> sure? i know that insert the storage on a domain is easy, but i have no experience using the storage on a domain.[03:25:08] <vinicius> maybe because they are using windows 7 or 2008 R2[03:26:25] <vinicius> ok so doens't matter the version, if the storage is an openiniana 151a the samba should be ok e functional[03:29:56] <patdk-lap> hmm, smb 2.1 is only in win7 and win2008r2[03:30:39] *** POloser has joined #openindiana[03:30:48] <vinicius> im not sure. I got it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Message_Block[03:31:40] <patdk-lap> I don't see anything in 2.1 that wouldn't work with 2.0[03:31:47] <patdk-lap> atleast from a server side[03:31:54] <patdk-lap> now if your a smb client, that would be different[03:33:18] <vinicius> i will be a smb server[03:34:01] <gwr> All current SMB clients will happily talk SMB 1[03:34:18] <gwr> Win 7 etc. will talk SMB2.x if negotiated.[03:34:37] <patdk-lap> gwr, but that could be disabled, via gpo[03:34:48] <patdk-lap> but they can't enforce 2.1 and disable 2.0[03:34:49] <gwr> which gpo?[03:35:00] <richlowe> I'm presuming not the post office.[03:35:04] <gwr> and why on earth would one do that?[03:36:09] <[noc]> newb zfs question, if I turn on dedup and the performance is not what I expected can I turn it off again?[03:36:15] <[noc]> or do I have to rebuild?[03:36:53] *** j0nas has quit IRC[03:36:58] *** j0nas has joined #openindiana[03:38:20] <vinicius> so doesnt matter the client, if my storage is a smb server, using openindiana_151a, the samba will be ok and functional?[03:38:37] <gwr> try it :)[03:38:49] <gwr> doesn't cost you much to try it[03:40:01] <vinicius> sure! i will try. Thanks for your help[03:41:27] *** vinicius has left #openindiana[03:43:35] *** enmand has quit IRC[03:44:02] <WebDawg> where is ethtool?[03:44:28] *** dajhorn has quit IRC[03:47:01] <gentoofan> I am using Illumos GRUB to boot Linux off 6 disks that have a DOS-style MBR with a mirrored zpool and a zraid2 zpool. It mostly works, but for some reason, GRUB isn't seeing its own conf file, so I need to manually tell GRUB how to boot the system each time. Does anyone know what might be wrong?[03:48:30] <gentoofan> I am hoping that I did something wrong. If I am doing things right, this will be the 4th bug I have had to patch. :/[03:49:40] <WebDawg> How do I search for a package?[03:50:27] <gentoofan> Nevermind. I just looked at the GRUB code. There is a comment explaining what I did wrong.[03:50:37] <gentoofan> Well, I just found the comment now.[03:53:24] *** Norrin has joined #openindiana[03:55:02] *** _404_Error_ has joined #openindiana[04:00:34] *** n2deep has quit IRC[04:01:49] <WebDawg> nice[04:01:51] <WebDawg> ethtool[04:01:56] <WebDawg> is not in the userland[04:02:00] <WebDawg> I needed another util[04:02:01] <WebDawg> peace[04:02:30] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[04:12:32] *** somedumgai has joined #openindiana[04:16:45] *** analog_ has left #openindiana[04:17:43] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[04:18:38] *** Norrin has left #openindiana[04:27:10] *** somedumgai has quit IRC[04:27:32] <Aethrs> How do I persuade oi to run a ftp server? :)[04:30:55] <Aethrs> Ahh.. svcadm enable ftp .. 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IRC[12:36:51] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[12:36:54] *** Warod has joined #openindiana[12:37:22] *** pothos has quit IRC[12:37:22] *** timclassic has quit IRC[12:37:28] *** pothos_ is now known as pothos[12:37:42] *** timclassic has joined #openindiana[12:37:54] *** doug_ndndn has quit IRC[12:37:54] *** WebDawg has quit IRC[12:38:11] *** DeviceZer0 has joined #openindiana[12:39:01] *** alcir has quit IRC[12:40:02] *** jvolkman has quit IRC[12:40:17] *** Whoopsie has joined #openindiana[12:40:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Whoopsie[12:40:33] *** WebDawg has joined #openindiana[12:40:48] *** doug_ndndn has joined #openindiana[12:42:49] *** jvolkman has joined #openindiana[12:43:22] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[12:45:39] *** Worsoe has joined #openindiana[12:48:23] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[12:48:56] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[12:50:13] <ironmunk> anyone have any experience of nfs + kerberos + ad + mac ?[12:51:27] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[12:52:56] <tsoome> make sure your hosts have HOST/ (and NFS/ ) principals.[12:53:20] <tsoome> uh, or in lower case:D[12:53:46] *** feizhou__ has joined #openindiana[12:56:56] *** feizhou_ has quit IRC[12:57:35] <ironmunk> I have it working with linux after some messing about with etypes[12:57:56] <ironmunk> but mac seems to want to use des3-cbc-sha1 and i've no idea how to make it use something else[12:58:55] <tsoome> not sure you even can if the osx is ancient[12:59:47] <tsoome> but you can tell AD kerberos to generate des3 keys as well afaik.[13:00:02] <tsoome> at least it used to be possible[13:00:34] <Agnar> tsoome: are you the new active-directory-representative here? ;)[13:00:36] <ironmunk> it's not even listed in the configurable encryption types in AD[13:01:03] <tsoome> Agnar: i was facing it when i did play with solaris + samba and AD;)[13:01:04] <ironmunk> where I enabled the des-cbc-md5/crc[13:02:03] <tsoome> but i really dont remember the details like exact etypes - have to google around some;)[13:02:04] <ironmunk> tempted to try doing manual krb + ldap setup on the macs rather than their AD configuration thing[13:02:13] <ironmunk> it seems to be new to Lion[13:02:21] <ironmunk> painful![13:02:46] <tsoome> what tool is it?[13:02:56] <Agnar> tsoome: ah :)[13:03:55] <ironmunk> just their network thing[13:04:01] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[13:05:07] <tsoome> heh[13:05:11] <tsoome> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3189202[13:07:01] <tsoome> some posts near the end of the thread may be useful[13:07:37] <tsoome> comments about krb5.conf and its syntax changes[13:07:42] <ironmunk> yeah, i've had a look through it. No firm solutions[13:08:53] <ironmunk> ill keep playing, cheers tsoome[13:09:10] <tsoome> its upgrade to lion or fresh install?[13:09:49] <Agnar> overall krb5 seems to be a mess on osx these days...[13:10:16] <tsoome> as they wrote, mit got replaced by heimdal[13:10:54] <Agnar> ok, i meant krb5 as "a kerberos client service" not as the software "krb5" ;)[13:11:00] <tsoome> i guess the most mess is related to mixed config[13:11:56] <tsoome> as you can see from that forum, some are suggesting to remove krb5.conf, some are suggesting to use it and so on …..[13:13:09] *** Licenser has quit IRC[13:13:22] <tsoome> my own real experience is from SL where we did set up OSX server with podcast service and xgrid, which was using OSX directory service and kerberos. never attempted to mix it with AD.[13:14:37] *** jollyd has joined #openindiana[13:14:42] <tsoome> in that setup we had the only "trick" was to generate host principals on "domain" join, you had to press some button in that configuration window (whatever it was called).[13:15:19] *** Wilbs has joined #openindiana[13:15:22] <tsoome> plain join did not generate kerberos keys for host and therefore kerberos was not really usable:)[13:18:11] <ironmunk> yeah[13:18:25] <ironmunk> it's put host/cifs etc into a keytab[13:18:34] <tsoome> yep[13:18:48] <ironmunk> but seems to ignore any krb5.conf I create which specifies the etypes[13:19:01] <ironmunk> and always uses des3-cbc-sha1[13:19:41] <ironmunk> why not let people configure it, such a pain[13:19:54] <tsoome> check that pwcaligari's post?[13:20:43] <ironmunk> yeah he can't get it working tho[13:21:18] <ironmunk> also not sure how many of those people are using AD or some other KDC[13:21:43] <tsoome> yes, but he hints about setting etypes there anyhow.[13:22:18] <tsoome> also davidbr post seems to be reasonable.[13:22:25] <ironmunk> yeah, seems to ignored, I've checked with wireshark is it just tries the same every time :([13:23:03] <tsoome> "As for the configuration, both /etc/krb5.conf and /Library/Preferences/edu.mit.Kerberos seem to be valid, but ensure that you only have ONE present."[13:23:13] <ironmunk> yeah maybe I should try and manual kerberos + ldap config[13:28:15] *** analog_ has joined #openindiana[13:36:16] *** POloser has left #openindiana[13:41:48] <madwizard> Coffee[13:45:16] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[13:49:15] *** tsoome has quit IRC[13:50:49] *** rame has quit IRC[13:51:12] *** alcir has joined #openindiana[13:57:23] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[13:58:12] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[13:58:43] <lblume> madwizard: Somebody stole my coffee cup. You happen to be the prime suspect. Do you have an alibi?[13:58:45] *** kenon has quit IRC[13:59:05] *** keremet has left #openindiana[14:00:29] <madwizard> lblume: Yes, I don't[14:01:14] <madwizard> lblume: Of sure, but I don't understand the question.[14:01:18] <madwizard> My name is From:[14:01:23] <madwizard> Could you repeat?[14:05:50] *** rame has joined #openindiana[14:09:50] <madwizard> I think I got him off my back[14:09:52] <madwizard> Coffee[14:10:34] *** analog_ has left #openindiana[14:12:47] *** APTX has quit IRC[14:13:02] *** APTX has joined #openindiana[14:13:24] *** Vutral has quit IRC[14:15:56] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[14:16:01] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[14:18:42] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[14:18:44] *** movement has quit IRC[14:22:04] *** analog_ has joined #openindiana[14:29:15] *** Vutral has joined #openindiana[14:30:50] <lblume> madwizard: I'm watching you. Every cup you drink. I'm sure at some point you'll make a mistake, and use my cup. And I'll be there.[14:35:27] <madwizard> :)[14:36:54] <Agnar> lblume: set up a short dtrace on your cup and watch for user != you :)[14:39:15] <madwizard> Every sip youuutaaaaaake. Every cuup you maaaaakeee. Every something something, I'll be watching youuuuuuu[14:39:27] <lblume> madwizard: I hate you ;-)[14:39:37] <madwizard> lblume: I love you too[14:39:39] <madwizard> :)[14:41:22] *** Licenser has joined #openindiana[14:41:51] <madwizard> lblume: So, when are you coming to Szczecin?[14:41:56] *** dvx has quit IRC[14:42:20] <lblume> I'll follow Agnar's advice and dtrace you![14:42:52] <madwizard> I'm like a black hole. You can only find me following the riot around.[14:42:54] <madwizard> Oh, pardon[14:42:59] <madwizard> Afro-American Hole[14:44:05] <Agnar> lblume: better would be just set a mutex on the cup...but that would reduce the fun :)[14:44:35] *** rame has quit IRC[14:44:49] <lblume> I miss my cup![14:46:02] <madwizard> I think my mission in this company is done. Insanity level in the room has just reached new level[14:46:02] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[14:46:19] <madwizard> lblume: How did she look like?[14:48:38] <lblume> Yellow cup with an advertisement for a Beijing gym on it, with a cartoon drawing of a girl.[14:49:06] <Agnar> very strange cup :)[14:50:25] <madwizard> lblume: I think we can do something about the girl, but she won't be drawn[14:51:49] <lblume> Agnar: What do you consider a normal cup?[14:55:33] <Agnar> lblume: hm. white, 10-15cm hight, logo of $it-company with a silly slogan on it[14:55:57] <Licenser> Agnar we have a funny yellow violet wave on ours but no sloager[14:56:26] <Agnar> Licenser: interesting colour-mix :)[14:56:59] <Licenser> it actually has some apeal[14:57:02] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[14:57:17] <Agnar> (I use the cup of my thermos flesk - which is black ;)[14:57:53] <Licenser> not bad[14:58:02] <Licenser> I have some glass cups at home, very neat to look at[14:58:39] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[14:59:00] *** bens1 has quit IRC[14:59:05] <lblume> Well, ok, I was being non-conformist. I don't want to bring a Sun cup back at work. Pathetic![14:59:46] *** alcir has quit IRC[14:59:52] <madwizard> My cup is steel[15:00:25] <Agnar> my sun cup is also at home...at work it would get "lost" aka stolen by someone ,)[15:00:38] <lblume> Mine got "lost"![15:00:52] <Licenser> http://www.mono.de/typo3temp/pics/ba4eb3ae65.jpg[15:00:54] <madwizard> This is why my cup is made of steel. And soldered to the table. :)[15:00:58] <lblume> But I am looking at you, madwizard O_O[15:01:23] <madwizard> You cup was made of steel?[15:01:33] <Hurri> And his fists![15:01:50] <madwizard> lblume: If no steel, it wouldn't survive my coffee[15:01:59] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[15:02:02] <Agnar> chuck norris has no cup. he holds the hot coffee directly in his hands.[15:02:29] <sensille> .o( coffee through a drinking straw... )[15:03:38] <madwizard> sensille: Been there, done that[15:04:04] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[15:04:22] <sensille> at least it cools quickly when soldered to the table...[15:05:01] <lblume> sensille: He actually tried, but the straw bent instead of getting inside the coffee. When he added water to help, the straw just melted with a fizz.[15:05:04] <Licenser> madwizard after you stole the last guys steel coffee cup?[15:05:06] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[15:05:52] *** Worsoe has joined #openindiana[15:05:53] *** raichoo has quit IRC[15:06:04] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[15:07:16] <madwizard> Licenser: I refuse to comment on that.[15:07:36] <Licenser> smart move madwizard smart move, you could become head of state here in germany with that attitude ;)[15:08:03] <madwizard> Although it made pretty doog container for the beans. I have to keep 'em in a cup on my desk, otherwise I wouldn't have a snack during the day[15:08:23] <madwizard> Not sure why, but there is a fence at coffee machine[15:08:37] <madwizard> s/doog/good/[15:09:12] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[15:09:35] <madwizard> lblume: Do you have any pictire of your "lost" property?[15:10:44] *** alcir has joined #openindiana[15:12:00] <madwizard> I tried to google it, but "[15:12:13] <madwizard> I tried to google it, but " Yellow cup with an advertisement for a Beijing gym on it, with a cartoon drawing of a girl." does not provide any sensible results[15:14:55] <lblume> madwizard: Your clearance is not high enough to have access to a picture of it.[15:16:55] *** auronandace has joined #openindiana[15:19:59] *** CoilDomain has joined #openindiana[15:20:19] *** alcir has quit IRC[15:21:48] *** ekix has quit IRC[15:26:14] <madwizard> lblume: Cup or the girl?[15:27:30] <lblume> Cup.[15:28:29] *** _wilsonkk_ has quit IRC[15:28:40] <jamon> seriously, wow fellas, that was an entertaining backlog[15:29:35] <Agnar> jamon: always at your service :)[15:30:24] <madwizard> :)[15:30:25] <jamon> though now i have the police looping in my head, thanks there madwizard[15:30:27] <madwizard> jamon: Coffee?[15:30:31] <madwizard> jamon: I have a free cup to pass[15:31:02] <jamon> i think the cyberpolice might be watching if i took it from you madwizard, going to.. use my own.[15:33:41] <Licenser> jamon but madwizard's cup is a nice one ask lblume[15:36:02] <lblume> Yes. Very.[15:36:51] <jamon> i'm gonna stick with my prized mozilla cup. from my cold dead hands and all that[15:37:41] <jamon> i 'acquired' it from a colleague, so i'll fit in just fine around here[15:38:02] <Agnar> hehe[15:38:29] <madwizard> lblume: you want a steel one?[15:38:43] <Licenser> teehee[15:38:58] <Licenser> madwizard as far as I understood he HA(D/S) a steel one :P[15:38:59] *** ruse39 has quit IRC[15:39:03] *** ruse39 has joined #openindiana[15:41:09] *** _wilsonkk_ has joined #openindiana[15:41:47] <lblume> madwizard: I have to go. But I'LL BE WATCHING YOU.[15:42:59] * Licenser just waits to see lblume sneaking up behind madwizard with a big baseball bat[15:44:07] <madwizard> kheeheeee[15:44:20] <madwizard> So, who wants to buy a yellow cup with an advertisement for a Beijing gym on it, with a cartoon drawing of a girl?[15:44:45] <jamon> is it bad if i actually tried searching for an image of that?[15:45:17] <madwizard> jamon: 15:12 <@madwizard> I tried to google it, but " Yellow cup with an advertisement for a Beijing gym on it, with a cartoon drawing of a girl." does not provide any sensible results[15:45:21] <madwizard> :)[15:45:50] *** kart_ has quit IRC[15:46:13] * jamon starts to slowly rock back and forth in a corner[15:46:16] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[15:47:38] <Licenser> jamon wait 15 minutes look at madwizards ebay account and you will find an image of the cup :P[15:48:04] <madwizard> :)[15:49:12] <Licenser> madwizard - the first chup-cleptomaniac ever reported in history[15:53:49] *** BurnerGR has quit IRC[16:01:14] <madwizard> Licenser: No comment :)[16:01:26] <Licenser> again, a very wise move[16:02:45] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[16:03:26] <Agnar> gone...hunting for yellow cups![16:07:10] *** russiane39 has quit IRC[16:17:19] *** raichoo has quit IRC[16:20:08] *** DrLou has joined #openindiana[16:20:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrLou[16:21:24] *** tsoome has quit IRC[16:26:33] *** Roadblock_RVA has joined #openindiana[16:28:21] *** floogy has joined #openindiana[16:29:08] *** Shep_Book has joined #openindiana[16:30:00] *** Licenser has quit IRC[16:30:11] *** enmand has quit IRC[16:31:57] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[16:33:29] *** jw_urodoc has quit IRC[16:34:02] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[16:34:09] *** Licenser has joined #openindiana[16:34:40] <Tenzer> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/01/16/building-the-next-generation-file-system-for-windows-refs.aspx - "As you read this, let’s not forget that NTFS is by far the industry’s leading technology for file systems on PCs." *cough* bullshit *cough*[16:40:00] <Licenser> yea it's true didn't you noticed how BSD and OS X all addapted (at least partially) to NTFS? And now the discussion was in the linux worlds when they figured it they couldn't have ntfs for license reasons?[16:40:50] <JT-EC> In terms of PCs they're probably just missing BEs.[16:41:47] <Licenser> BEs?[16:41:53] <Tenzer> Boot Environments[16:41:56] <Licenser> ah[16:42:31] <Licenser> well they are likley the widest spread one but that does not make it 'industry leading technology' just an 'industry dominating technology'[16:46:48] *** randw has joined #openindiana[16:48:29] <floogy> Hi, whats the meaning of FRU in Sense Key: Unit Attention ASC: 0x29 (<vendor unique code 0x29>), ASCQ: 0x1, FRU: 0x0[16:48:33] <|woody|> well know they get zfs/brtfs feature yeah :)[16:49:05] <floogy> Got that FRU: 0x0 sth. to do with http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19087-01/cp2160.brd/816-5772-11/fruid.html[16:50:02] <Tenzer> floogy: FRU normally is short for "Field Replaceable Unit"[16:50:25] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[16:50:44] *** noahmehl has quit IRC[16:50:56] <Tenzer> So in this case it propably could refer to an ID for a piece of hardware in the machine, which is easy to replace[16:51:13] <floogy> But what is that (I read that meaning of the FRU abbreviation)[16:51:28] <Licenser> |woody| seems ZFS/BRTFS was harder too copy then other things :P[16:51:40] <floogy> Ooops, thank you. So the x0 is a part of the computer?[16:52:14] <Tenzer> If you have an Sun/Oracle server, it would probably refer to an ID of a hardware part in the machine, which the customer is able to replace himself, so the vendor don't have to send out a technician[16:52:54] <Tenzer> I don't think it works correctly when it reports "0x0" back, it can probably be seen as being the same as "null" in many programming languages[16:53:07] *** kenon has quit IRC[16:53:09] <floogy> If it's external it returns zero? 0x0?[16:53:39] <floogy> It's an error of our tapelibrary[16:54:12] <floogy> It seems that it was not ready after POR, or so.[16:55:02] <floogy> Asc stands for Additional Sense Code[16:55:03] <floogy> Ascq stands for Additional Sense Code[16:55:15] <floogy> Qualifier[16:57:41] <floogy> So the Sense key gives the Category of the SCSI error, the ASC some more Information and the ASCQ even more/deeper info, while the FRU gives the part ID (Sun FRU ID), right?[17:01:47] <floogy> Tenzer 0x0 for every field says it works correctly, No error?[17:07:42] *** flyz has joined #openindiana[17:07:53] <floogy> Ok, I found something: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_Code_Qualifier[17:08:52] <floogy> and http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19105-01/storedge.6320/817-5918-10/817-5918-10.pdf[17:10:51] <floogy> So we got only three scsi errors on the tapelibrary, these are:[17:11:14] <floogy> Sense Key: Unit Attention ASC: 0x29 (<vendor unique code 0x29>), ASCQ: 0x1, FRU: 0x0 -> Unit Attention 6 29 01 Unit Attention - POR occurred[17:11:53] <floogy> Sense Key: Media Error ASC: 0x14 (recorded entity not found), ASCQ: 0x0, FRU: 0x0 -> 14/00 DTL WRO BK RECORDED ENTITY NOT FOUND[17:12:24] <floogy> Sense Key: Media Error ASC: 0xc (write error), ASCQ: 0x0, FRU: 0x0 -> 0C/00 T R WRITE ERROR[17:13:26] <floogy> So, the two last errors are only Media related, or could it be also due to a faulty tape drive?[17:13:57] <floogy> Because sometimes the driver crahes then and must be reloaded.[17:15:45] <floogy> If I unload the driver, switch off the tapelib, plug off the cables from the drive, wait, plug the drive back in, switch on the tapelib and reload the drivers it might work for a couple of weeks or month flawlessy.[17:15:46] *** cpny_ has quit IRC[17:16:02] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[17:16:58] *** russiane39 has joined #openindiana[17:16:58] <floogy> When it loads an error media/tape it might break the driver again, or only report the media error in /var/adm/messages..[17:17:17] <Tenzer> floogy: I have no idea how the FRU works in your situation, the above I wrote was simply my best guess at why it's there[17:17:32] *** jw_urodoc has joined #openindiana[17:17:43] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[17:18:48] <floogy> Tenzer, as I understand 0x0 stands for no error. But I'm not sure if one can define the culprit from these sense key errors.[17:20:42] <floogy> The funny thing is, that the errors returned after two weeks of the exchange of the drive unit. Therefor it might be the controler, but probe all scsi at the ok prompt gives no errors.[17:22:14] *** Mech0z has quit IRC[17:23:09] *** Tenzer has quit IRC[17:23:29] <floogy> The exchange was a yeare ago, and we missed to prolonge the support/warranty. That's one year ago. The support will now make a cost estimate for a new drive, but I'm still not sure if the drive or the scsi controller may be the culprit.[17:23:54] *** Wilbs has quit IRC[17:24:37] <floogy> So, I guess it's impossible to say from where those errors came?[17:25:44] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[17:27:05] *** rame has joined #openindiana[17:27:58] *** jw_urodoc_de has joined #openindiana[17:28:27] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[17:28:47][17:29:04] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[17:32:16] *** rame has quit IRC[17:34:27] *** kenon has quit IRC[17:36:01] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[17:38:01] *** cypromis_ is now known as cypromis[17:41:21] *** randw has quit IRC[17:44:24] *** kenon has quit IRC[17:46:07] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[17:46:22] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[17:48:43] *** raichoo_ has joined #openindiana[17:50:56] *** raichoo has quit IRC[17:55:09] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[17:57:00] *** hajma has quit IRC[17:58:24] *** kart_ has quit IRC[17:58:31] *** Wilbs has joined #openindiana[18:00:38] *** kenon has quit IRC[18:02:19] *** raichoo_ is now known as raichoo[18:02:34] *** elgar has joined #openindiana[18:02:46] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[18:03:47] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[18:05:06] <deraps> rolonge the support/warranty. That's one year ago. The support will now make a cost estimate for a new drive, but I'm still not sure if the drive or the scsi controller may be the culprit.[18:05:34] <deraps> 08:22 >>> Wilbs [~Matt at host86-178-189-67 dot range86-178.btcentralplus.rolonge the support/warranty. That's one year ago. The support will now make a cost estimate for a new drive, but I'm still not sure if the drive or the scsi controller[18:05:38] <deraps> may be the culprit.[18:06:09] *** rame has joined #openindiana[18:12:18] <DrLou> OK, some ZFS expertise/advice needed...[18:13:03] <DrLou> have been scrubbing a root pool, which shows one of our (old) snapshots is corrupted. OK, so - deleted that snap.[18:13:40] <DrLou> Now, are seeing 'Permament errors' message, but with this designator: <0x160bd>:<0x78007>[18:14:00] <DrLou> and Checksum errors - again - at the rpool level.[18:14:22] <DrLou> Scrub again, give up, have a drink - what?[18:14:51] <DrLou> (Memory has tested out perfect - and same controller is handling 4 other drives with no problems)[18:20:10] <DrLou> uh-oh, crickets...[18:21:46] *** APTX has quit IRC[18:22:37] *** APTX has joined #openindiana[18:25:12] *** ironmunk has quit IRC[18:30:38] *** bgeek has joined #openindiana[18:30:38] *** bgeek has joined #openindiana[18:37:28] *** _404_Error_ has quit IRC[18:37:30] *** alanc has joined #openindiana[18:37:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[18:37:55] *** Whoopsie has quit IRC[18:38:10] *** ironmunk has joined #openindiana[18:38:38] *** kenon has quit IRC[18:39:53] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[18:40:33] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[18:48:19] *** Tenzer has joined #openindiana[18:54:40] *** jw_urodoc_de has left #openindiana[18:54:52] *** Roadblock_RVA has quit IRC[18:58:25] *** ironmunk has quit IRC[18:59:08] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[18:59:51] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[19:01:27] <madwizard> Coffee[19:03:23] *** randw has joined #openindiana[19:03:57] *** APTX has quit IRC[19:04:55] <raichoo> madwizard: Club Mate[19:06:08] *** APTX has joined #openindiana[19:07:11] <gentoofan> Does OpenIndiana build GRUB using GCC or Sun Studio?[19:07:30] <Triskelios> I believe gcc[19:08:05] <gentoofan> Triskelios: Which version? 3.4.6?[19:08:15] <Triskelios> yes[19:08:50] *** girafe has joined #openindiana[19:08:54] <Triskelios> er, 3.4.3[19:09:06] <Triskelios> the regular Sun patched version[19:11:11] <gentoofan> Thanks. That gives me an a basis to explore why the binaries from Open Indiana boot Linux perfectly while binaries I compile using the Gentoo Linux toolchain with Illumos source tree I patched to permit compilation don't work. I imagine this will affect Illumos if they try to upgrade to a newer version of GCC too, although that would need to be tested.[19:12:07] *** heldus has quit IRC[19:13:24] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[19:16:44] *** kenon has quit IRC[19:18:38] <herzen> gentoofan: upgrading to a newer version of gcc does not imply using it to build everything.[19:19:46] *** gotwf has joined #openindiana[19:24:09] *** ironmunk has joined #openindiana[19:24:39] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[19:25:26] <alanc> building illumos with newer gcc requires using the gcc 4.4 branch to which richlowe ported the necessary patches[19:27:17] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[19:36:33] *** floogy has quit IRC[19:39:00] *** heldus has joined #openindiana[19:39:48] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[19:40:04] *** Wilbs has quit IRC[19:42:42] *** kenon has quit IRC[19:48:47] *** Wilbs has joined #openindiana[20:00:04] *** kart_ has quit IRC[20:02:19] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[20:05:47] *** n2deep_ has quit IRC[20:07:26] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[20:10:43] <RobbieCrash> Why would a drive that has been added to a pool as cache drop out at reboot? When the system comes back up, other drives taht are on that controller add properly, and the disk always shows up with the same name. It's an SSD, so it's not a delayed spinup issue or anything. It works properly the entire time the system is up.[20:12:14] *** n2deep has quit IRC[20:12:29] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[20:13:42] *** ekix has joined #openindiana[20:14:30] *** kart_ has quit IRC[20:23:54] *** Wilbs has quit IRC[20:27:25] *** JonS_ has joined #openindiana[20:28:16] *** herzen has quit IRC[20:29:47] <JonS_> I want to make my own live ISO,e.g.oi_151a_cust (I have no problem building illumos-gate) I only use gcc can this be done ?[20:30:01] *** herzen has joined #openindiana[20:32:26] <Triskelios> RobbieCrash: it's not the root pool, is it?[20:33:08] <Triskelios> JonS_: yes, you can combine the existing repo plus your build repo with distro-constructor[20:36:12] <JonS_> :Triskelios - so the http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Distribution+Constructor which is for oi_148b will work for oi_151a ?[20:36:58] <JonS_> :Triskelios I assume that I will need specific modes to my xml file, and adjust one to my file://...illumos-gate[20:37:58] <JonS_> :Triskelio "mods" not "modes" is there a oi_151a "slim_cd_x86.xml" template or is it the same[20:39:00] <Triskelios> JonS_: should be in the standard location but may point to /stable. you may have to set up an HTTP depot because part of the install takes place in a chroot[20:41:48] <JonS_> Triskelios: thanks I will try to muddle through the wiki (as above), last question is an HTTP depot is just some sort of HTTP access to say my illumos build in /code3/illumos-gate[20:42:21] <Triskelios> no, it's the pkg server service[20:42:24] <Triskelios> look it up[20:42:32] <JonS_> Triskelios: thanks[20:44:08] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[20:46:42] *** noahmehl has joined #openindiana[20:47:07] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[20:52:52] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[20:55:34] *** kenon has quit IRC[21:09:13] *** jMCg has quit IRC[21:11:05] *** n2deep_ has joined #openindiana[21:12:42] *** jMCg has joined #openindiana[21:13:51] *** n2deep has quit IRC[21:17:12] *** Wilbs has joined #openindiana[21:23:01] <Garo__> I updated my /etc/resolv.conf with my new dns address. "host google.com" finds the dns record for google, but for example wget can't find any hosts (failed: node name or service name not known.) Do I have to do something else than just edit the resolv.conf?[21:24:22] <Tenzer> Garo__: cp /etc/nsswitch.dns /etc/nsswitch.conf[21:24:26] <alanc> nsswitch.conf needs to have "dns" on the hosts line[21:24:48] <Tenzer> nsswitch.conf is used to define how host lookups are performed, and you need to tell it you want to use DNS[21:24:54] *** girafe has quit IRC[21:25:21] <Garo__> thanks, that worked[21:28:17] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[21:28:56] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[21:29:50] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[21:30:31] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[21:33:36] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[21:38:19] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[21:39:06] *** ironmunk has quit IRC[21:40:11] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[21:44:42] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[21:45:10] *** koollman has quit IRC[21:45:11] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[21:46:16] *** ironmunk has joined #openindiana[21:46:34] *** koollman has joined #openindiana[21:47:26] *** Wilbs has quit IRC[21:51:25] <richlowe> herzen: did I miss your argument?[21:51:32] <richlowe> alanc: and the ipnodes line[21:51:45] <richlowe> though I do wonder, often, if there's any good reason to not assume ipnodes and hosts to be equal unless specified, and delete the stock 'ipnodes'[21:52:31] <tomww> the tool for testin name resolve is: getent hosts www.google.com[21:52:53] <tomww> this uses the right software stack and is not pure dns[21:53:09] <tomww> asked directly[21:55:29] *** n2deep has joined #openindiana[21:55:58] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[21:56:58] <richlowe> and ipnodes[21:57:00] <richlowe> (dammit)[21:57:10] <richlowe> they really are separate tables, different library calls use different ones[21:57:37] <richlowe> unless someone can show otherwise, I remain convinced by my memory of the ability to fix one and not the other, and thus have _some_ things use DNS[21:57:50] *** n2deep_ has quit IRC[21:57:58] <tomww> old releases had them separate[22:01:04] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[22:01:32] <richlowe> Don't confuse the 'files' source of their data, and the use of the tables.[22:01:58] <richlowe> if that got fixed also, I'm happier than happy[22:02:10] <richlowe> (and we really should make ipnodes be assumed == to hosts in nsswitch, unless told otherwise)[22:10:39] <papertigers> richlowe: why is there an ipnodes? what is it actually used for[22:12:57] <richlowe> getipnode*[22:13:29] <richlowe> recollection is that getipnode* would search both tables, ipnodes first, others would only search hosts.[22:17:00] <herzen> richlowe: I didn't ping you because you were marked away. sorry.[22:19:02] <richlowe> herzen: Hey, no problem, I _was_ away :)[22:19:41] <richlowe> I spent last night writing a whole bunch of code that, it turns out, rm already wrote.[22:19:45] <richlowe> and that, more so, I'd actually used last week[22:19:46] <richlowe> go me[22:20:09] <herzen> lol[22:22:26] *** pothos_ has joined #openindiana[22:22:45] <RoyK> any idea how I can increase the limit, default at 80%, where OI starts deleting daily/frequent snaps?[22:22:59] <richlowe> it's a property on the services[22:23:08] <richlowe> there's also a thingy in the gui, but it may not actually work[22:23:12] <richlowe> (as so often with time-slider)[22:23:48] <RoyK> do you remember the property name?[22:23:51] <richlowe> I think last time I looked at it, the only thing tim and I agreed on is that setting it to '100' is as likely to be terrible as good[22:24:20] *** pothos has quit IRC[22:24:49] <richlowe> zpool/critical-level integer 90[22:24:49] <richlowe> zpool/emergency-level integer 95[22:24:54] <richlowe> on the time-slider service[22:25:08] <richlowe> there's a warning-level, too[22:25:29] <richlowe> it's possible that remedial-cleanup false means "don't ever delete just to make space"[22:25:37] *** pothos_ has quit IRC[22:25:54] *** pothos has joined #openindiana[22:26:21] <richlowe> but I have distinct recollections that I only looked at this because it appeared to be having no effect.[22:28:38] *** pothos has quit IRC[22:28:55] *** pothos has joined #openindiana[22:31:30] *** pothos has quit IRC[22:31:48] *** pothos has joined #openindiana[22:32:30] *** flyz has quit IRC[22:34:16] *** pothos has quit IRC[22:34:36] *** pothos has joined #openindiana[22:36:11] <RobbieCrash> I've got a dual Broadcom Gb NIC, I cannot set the MTU above 1500. 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