January 12, 2012 
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January 12, 2012 [00:00:04] *** heldus has joined #openindiana[00:00:55] <patdk-lap> noahmehl, sure, why wouldn't it be?[00:03:13] <noahmehl> well, I don't assume that hardware would be supported in illumos kernel[00:03:27] <noahmehl> i know that lsi2008 is[00:03:41] <noahmehl> but there's not HCT with LSI SAS2116[00:04:37] <analog_> patdk-lap: we spoke earlier this morning, how do SSDs performance wise scale on raidz, is it as terrible as you mentioned with a 8 hdd raidz1 iops = 1 single disk worth of iops or?[00:04:39] <feizhou_> LSI probably has a driver...that would leave the boot host[00:06:50] <patdk-lap> noahmehl, that is cause they are the same[00:07:10] <patdk-lap> raidz doesn't scale[00:07:23] <patdk-lap> it doesn't matter what kind of disks you use, you only get the iops of a single disk[00:07:38] <patdk-lap> if the disk is ssd's, then you get the iops of 1 ssd[00:07:47] <patdk-lap> if it's sas drive, you get the speed of one sas drive[00:10:02] *** DocHoliday has joined #openindiana[00:17:13] *** analap_ has joined #openindiana[00:23:57] <noahmehl> patdk-lap: you're saying that the operating system interfaces with both controllers the same way[00:27:07] *** tsukasa has quit IRC[00:28:19] *** tsukasa has joined #openindiana[00:28:19] *** tsukasa has joined #openindiana[00:29:16] <patdk-lap> noahmehl, they all use the mpt_sas2 driver[00:39:38] *** sergiosanche has quit IRC[00:39:39] *** CoilDomain has joined #openindiana[00:44:11] *** gea has quit IRC[00:46:04] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[00:48:22] *** sponix has joined #openindiana[00:48:23] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[01:04:31] *** Botanic_ has quit IRC[01:08:16] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[01:08:16] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[01:10:18] *** Zenos has quit IRC[01:10:57] *** Mech0z_ has quit IRC[01:13:29] *** LizardKing has quit IRC[01:15:30] *** girafe has quit IRC[01:17:32] *** Licenser has quit IRC[01:18:05] *** Mech0z has joined #openindiana[01:22:40] *** Mech0z has quit IRC[01:26:59] *** Botanic has quit IRC[01:28:32] *** CoilDomain has quit IRC[01:29:24] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[01:30:26] *** randw has quit IRC[01:34:37] *** randw has joined #openindiana[01:37:26] *** gweiss has joined #openindiana[01:49:29] *** LizardKing has joined #openindiana[01:53:29] *** laogrymt has quit IRC[01:55:45] *** Edgeman has quit IRC[02:00:51] *** randw has quit IRC[02:01:37] *** randw has joined #openindiana[02:01:59] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[02:02:12] *** Edgeman has joined #openindiana[02:07:11] *** Edgeman has quit IRC[02:12:04] *** randw has quit IRC[02:13:48] *** thirdwhl has joined #openindiana[02:14:09] *** analap_ has quit IRC[02:16:07] <thirdwhl> hi all, is there an archive of the old bugs.opensolaris.org database? I asked in #opensolaris but nobody answered[02:19:47] *** sebasp has joined #openindiana[02:23:15] *** Edgeman has joined #openindiana[02:24:53] <McBofh> thirdwhl: try the wayback machine / internet archive[02:28:26] *** monta-`_ has joined #openindiana[02:29:05] *** monta-` has quit IRC[02:29:12] <thirdwhl> McBofh, already did, the bugs I was looking for weren't showing... yet I went to one just now and it was there. weird.[02:30:33] <thirdwhl> ... and yet another is not. weirder.[02:36:56] *** Botanic_ has joined #openindiana[02:36:56] *** Botanic has quit IRC[02:38:27] <alanc> bugs.opensolaris.org never had all the bug data - just for the subsets of Solaris marked as cleared for publication, and not including any security bugs or bugs marked as having confidential data in[02:44:06] <thirdwhl> even that would have been enough - to see that my issue was documented and has been fixed in a certain release[02:45:01] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[02:46:35] <thirdwhl> ok, would turning off ACPI cause performance issues, or just mean that you'd have to walk over to the thing to turn it off?[02:48:26] *** Andrew1 has quit IRC[02:50:54] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[02:50:59] <analog_> thirdwhl: there are over 3 methods to shutdown a pc.[02:51:33] <alanc> turning off ACPI could cause lots of issues, it's used for all sorts of system configuration and BIOS support[02:51:56] <thirdwhl> su root -c 'poweroff', power button, pull the power cable, power cycle the building...[02:52:33] <thirdwhl> alanc, I figured as much. so should probably upgrade from eon 0.60.0 to 1.0 beta which is based on openindiana[02:52:59] <alanc> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/3561.html - "You'd think it'd be easy to reboot a PC, wouldn't you?"[02:53:38] <analog_> alanc: exactly the document i had in mind[02:58:28] <thirdwhl> ok, looks like wesunsolve.net has a mirror of the old bugs db, or what it could get.[03:01:52] *** Jago has quit IRC[03:01:58] *** Jago has joined #openindiana[03:02:07] *** ivan` has quit IRC[03:07:36] *** ivan` has joined #openindiana[03:11:41] *** Andrew1 has joined #openindiana[03:18:03] *** floogy__ has quit IRC[03:19:30] *** Edgeman has quit IRC[03:20:29] *** thirdwhl has quit IRC[03:23:58] *** Edgeman has joined #openindiana[03:30:37] *** POloser has joined #openindiana[03:55:13] *** gb_away has quit IRC[03:57:43] *** herzen has quit IRC[04:05:44] *** gb_away has joined #openindiana[04:07:22] *** raijin has quit IRC[04:10:23] *** raijin has joined #openindiana[04:10:57] *** keremet has quit IRC[04:14:57] *** jwk404 has quit IRC[04:15:10] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[04:15:38] *** Botanic_ has quit IRC[04:17:21] *** keremet has joined #openindiana[04:19:56] *** herzen has joined #openindiana[04:30:37] *** eryc has quit IRC[04:31:07] *** DocHoliday has left #openindiana[04:31:08] *** eryc has joined #openindiana[04:31:35] *** DocHoliday has joined #openindiana[04:35:58] *** eryc has quit IRC[04:36:19] *** eryc has joined #openindiana[04:36:53] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[04:36:53] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[04:38:46] *** Nietzsche has joined #openindiana[04:39:12] *** Nietzsche is now known as Guest81542[04:40:05] *** PlasticLawnDaemo has quit IRC[04:40:51] *** enmand has quit IRC[04:41:16] *** PlasticLawnDaemo has joined #openindiana[04:43:46] *** Guest81542 has quit IRC[04:49:42] *** Botanic has quit IRC[04:53:40] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[04:53:40] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[05:01:42] *** init3 has quit IRC[05:04:27] *** xenol has quit IRC[05:04:32] *** xenol has joined #openindiana[05:13:25] *** RobbieCrash has quit IRC[05:14:09] *** RobbieCrash has joined #openindiana[05:24:00] *** xenol has quit IRC[05:24:13] *** xenol has joined #openindiana[05:27:10] *** init3 has joined #openindiana[05:36:55] *** PlasticLawnDaemo has quit IRC[05:37:46] *** DrLou_ has quit IRC[05:39:35] *** flyz_ has quit IRC[05:39:38] *** CVLTCMK0 has joined #openindiana[05:40:31] *** analog_ has left #openindiana[05:42:34] *** Essobi has joined #openindiana[05:43:11] <Essobi> I have this T1000... Can I netboot install OpenIndiana to it?[05:44:43] <alanc> if the SPARC version was finished you could, but I thought that was still a work in progress[05:45:47] <Essobi> Awww.[05:46:01] *** PlasticLawnDaemo has joined #openindiana[05:46:55] *** flyz has joined #openindiana[06:05:58] *** Essobi has left #openindiana[06:09:43] *** Guy- has quit IRC[06:17:01] *** Guy- has joined #openindiana[06:25:33] *** keremet has left #openindiana[06:30:40] *** keremet has joined #openindiana[07:25:34] <madwizard> Kawusia[07:45:07] *** sergiosanche has joined #openindiana[07:47:18] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[07:47:33] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[07:50:31] *** sergiosanche has quit IRC[08:02:24] *** EFree has joined #openindiana[08:04:28] *** EFree has quit IRC[08:11:09] *** heldus has quit IRC[08:27:34] *** kart_ has quit IRC[08:28:07] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[08:35:27] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[08:40:28] *** Mech0z has joined #openindiana[08:57:47] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[08:58:35] *** Worsoe has joined #openindiana[09:00:07] *** Mech0z has quit IRC[09:01:07] *** CVLTCMK0 has quit IRC[09:03:36] *** Botanic has quit IRC[09:07:38] *** RobbieCrash has quit IRC[09:07:52] *** merzo has joined #openindiana[09:10:11] *** wickedwonka has joined #openindiana[09:10:45] *** BurnerGR has joined #openindiana[09:11:04] *** CVLTCMK0 has joined #openindiana[09:14:41] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[09:17:11] *** bradend has quit IRC[09:17:30] <lblume> madwizard: ♨[09:19:15] *** kimc has quit IRC[09:20:54] <madwizard> lblume: http://www.flickr.com/photos/trochej/5706643470/in/photostream[09:25:09] *** CVLTCMK0 has quit IRC[09:25:40] *** hajma_ has joined #openindiana[09:31:53] *** Worsoe has joined #openindiana[09:32:15] <lblume> :-D[09:40:12] *** bens1 has quit IRC[09:51:10] *** bradend has joined #openindiana[09:51:33] *** |wilsonkk| has joined #openindiana[09:53:18] *** reddi has quit IRC[09:53:41] *** Licenser has joined #openindiana[09:54:41] *** wilsonkk has quit IRC[10:29:01] *** tsoome has quit IRC[10:32:05] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[10:35:51] *** Tenzer has joined #openindiana[10:54:43] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[11:06:15] *** PlasticLawnDaemo has quit IRC[11:06:39] *** PlasticLawnDaemo has joined #openindiana[11:22:16] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[11:24:25] *** master_of_master has joined #openindiana[11:42:51] *** Whoopsie has joined #openindiana[11:42:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Whoopsie[11:55:42] *** reddi has joined #openindiana[12:06:56] *** APTX has quit IRC[12:30:33] *** Whoopsie has quit IRC[12:38:21] *** dvx has joined #openindiana[12:39:03] *** laogrymt_ has joined #openindiana[12:48:34] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[12:49:54] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[12:54:22] *** Whoopsie has joined #openindiana[12:54:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Whoopsie[13:07:46] *** CVLTCMK0 has joined #openindiana[13:08:03] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[13:08:38] <mikaeld> da endrer du i så fall 3 til 2[13:08:46] <mikaeld> og skal du escape $ i $HOST ?[13:08:51] <mikaeld> argh[13:09:34] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[13:14:08] *** enmand has quit IRC[13:14:57] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[13:15:12] *** Edgeman has quit IRC[13:16:26] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[13:16:54] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[13:17:08] <Worsoe> mikaeld: tror ikke der er så mange andre end tenzer og mig som forstår dansk herinde :)[13:18:45] *** Edgeman has joined #openindiana[13:18:57] <mikaeld> he he (dog var det norsk)[13:19:28] <Worsoe> same same :)[13:19:37] <mikaeld> jepp :)[13:21:21] <Worsoe> med undtagelse af jeres dobbeltkonsonanter :)[13:22:12] *** POloser has left #openindiana[13:24:05] <madwizard> Czy czas, żebym się włączył do dyskusji?[13:25:00] <Worsoe> ??? :)[13:25:51] <Agnar> Achtung! Kontrolle! </cliche-german>[13:27:28] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[13:27:52] <madwizard> Мы хотим, чтобы в наших собственных[13:28:04] <madwizard> Coffee anyone?[13:28:22] <Worsoe> Coffee, i'm in[13:28:52] <Agnar> tea. got already :)[13:30:06] <Worsoe> Agnar: Don't want to pollute my body :)[13:32:15] <Agnar> Worsoe: hehehe[13:33:15] <Agnar> hmm...recursive mutex_enter in emlxs driver. *searches bug database*[13:36:06] <Agnar> ah. patched in U10 :)[13:58:16] *** keremet has left #openindiana[13:58:22] *** n2deep_ has joined #openindiana[13:59:52] *** hajma_ has quit IRC[14:01:38] *** n2deep has quit IRC[14:07:20] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[14:12:15] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[14:15:28] *** spanglywires has joined #openindiana[14:15:41] *** datadigger has quit IRC[14:20:03] *** kart_ has quit IRC[14:20:21] *** datadigger has joined #openindiana[14:20:58] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[14:33:52] *** randw has joined #openindiana[14:34:27] *** dvx has quit IRC[14:46:20] *** miine has joined #openindiana[14:47:15] *** R_Lex has joined #openindiana[14:47:38] *** APTX has joined #openindiana[14:50:35] *** DrLou_ has joined #openindiana[14:50:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrLou_[14:54:04] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[14:57:46] *** CoilDomain has joined #openindiana[14:59:21] *** laogrymt_ has quit IRC[15:00:21] *** Zenos has joined #openindiana[15:00:21] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[15:01:47] *** laogrymt_ has joined #openindiana[15:02:25] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[15:02:29] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[15:19:23] *** Botanic_ has joined #openindiana[15:23:08] *** Botanic has quit IRC[15:23:21] *** Botanic__ has joined #openindiana[15:25:44] *** Botanic_ has quit IRC[15:26:05] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[15:29:14] *** Botanic__ has quit IRC[15:35:04] *** elgar has joined #openindiana[15:37:05] *** Licenser has quit IRC[15:45:44] <Gugge> is there any "lockf" like programs for openindiana?[15:52:18] <Warod> hoi, any idea why OI replaces randomly my /etc/nsswitch.conf with bad version?[15:52:57] <Gugge> do you use nwam?[15:53:52] <feizhou_> eh? oi still not ready for the desktop in that sense?[15:54:37] * feizhou_ has not used nwam even when he had indy on his desktop[15:55:08] <feizhou_> 2008.05 that is[15:56:02] <Woodstock> nwam used to work ok before oracle broke it in early 2010 :)[15:58:37] *** bens1 has quit IRC[16:02:00] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[16:04:11] *** elgar has quit IRC[16:07:18] *** randw has quit IRC[16:10:23] *** elgar has joined #openindiana[16:15:38] <Warod> Gugge: damn good point[16:17:25] *** monta-`_ has quit IRC[16:17:50] *** monta-` has joined #openindiana[16:19:22] *** elgar has quit IRC[16:27:21] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[16:28:07] *** elgar has joined #openindiana[16:33:54] *** tsoome has quit IRC[16:40:22] *** monta-` has quit IRC[16:51:18] *** wickedwonka has quit IRC[16:51:58] *** wickedwonka has joined #openindiana[16:54:07] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #openindiana[16:55:19] *** monta-` has joined #openindiana[16:58:12] *** jwk404 has joined #openindiana[17:00:16] *** Krazypoloc has joined #openindiana[17:00:27] <Krazypoloc> Getting this message on the console[17:00:33] <Krazypoloc> "comstar reduced copy disabled due to small zvol blocksize"[17:01:42] <Krazypoloc> Could that explain my terrible iSCSI performance and iscsi locking up completely when performing actions on the esx server that is using the iSCSI as a datastore?[17:04:38] *** Lumb_ is now known as Lumb[17:08:22] *** dajhorn has joined #openindiana[17:19:19] *** enmand has quit IRC[17:20:23] <patdk-wk> what blocksize you using?[17:24:57] <patdk-wk> looks like it errors if zvol blocksize < MMU page size[17:25:12] <patdk-wk> and mmu pagesize looks like defaulting to 4k[17:26:55] <Warod> hmh.. why does my OI151 wait for ldap client before launching sshd?[17:26:59] <Warod> Is there a way around it?[17:27:35] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[17:28:55] *** mfernest has joined #openindiana[17:30:05] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[17:31:36] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[17:33:58] *** Botanic_ has joined #openindiana[17:35:06] *** Licenser has joined #openindiana[17:37:21] *** Botanic has quit IRC[17:39:29] *** Tenzer has quit IRC[17:39:43] *** |wilsonkk| has quit IRC[17:39:44] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[17:47:15] *** laogrymt_ has quit IRC[17:48:54] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[17:56:10] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[17:59:35] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[18:04:09] *** enmand has quit IRC[18:13:16] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[18:18:57] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[18:19:06] <Warod> hoi[18:19:19] <Warod> How do I make SSH start before ldap/client ?[18:20:53] *** PiotrSikora has quit IRC[18:20:57] <Warod> currently sshd depends on ldap/client and ldap cannot connect to LDAP server until vbox kicks up afterwards.. so it's pointless to sit there waiting. :P[18:22:03] *** Hurri has joined #openindiana[18:22:46] *** PiotrSikora has joined #openindiana[18:23:22] *** hajma has quit IRC[18:23:41] *** merzo has quit IRC[18:54:47] *** dajhorn has quit IRC[18:55:43] *** Tenzer has joined #openindiana[18:56:20] *** sdi has joined #openindiana[19:00:39] *** Whoopsie has quit IRC[19:06:45] *** wiseen has joined #openindiana[19:10:40] *** dajhorn has joined #openindiana[19:11:28] *** Botanic_ has quit IRC[19:24:29] *** kart_ has quit IRC[19:35:19] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[19:35:30] *** merzo has joined #openindiana[19:36:53] *** merzo has quit IRC[19:37:45] *** kenon has quit IRC[19:38:45] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[19:38:45] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[19:41:55] *** merzo has joined #openindiana[19:50:02] *** girafe has joined #openindiana[19:51:13] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[19:53:59] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[19:54:21] *** analog_ has joined #openindiana[19:59:03] <Gugge> why cant i login with ssh keys to a user created with "useradd -m user", but it works fine to the user created by the installer[20:00:21] *** elgar has quit IRC[20:06:34] <Tenzer> Gugge: Is there set a password for the user you have created?[20:07:01] <Tenzer> The user is locked by default, until a password is set, or you have run "passwd -d <username>" which deletes any password and unlocks the user account[20:08:16] <Gugge> yes, i can login with the password just fine[20:08:45] <Tenzer> You can check the status of a user by running "passwd -s <username>". If it says "LK" the account is locked, "NP" means no password and "PS" means a password is set[20:08:54] <Gugge> but even though i put my public key in .ssh/authorized_keys it asks for my pass[20:09:01] <Gugge> sec[20:09:51] <Tenzer> It could sound more like you need to set up file permissions properly then, sshd is pretty strict about this[20:10:31] <Gugge> the permissions on .ssh and authorized_keys are the same for the user created by the installer, and my new user[20:10:50] <Tenzer> What are the permissions set for the .ssh folder? It should be 700[20:11:10] <Gugge> it is, and passwd -s says PS[20:11:31] <Tenzer> The passwd stuff doesn't matter if you can log in using a password[20:11:58] <Gugge> the new user cant su to root either, how do i see/set roles on a user?[20:12:58] <Tenzer> You can see roles with the "ppriv" command (as far as I remember), you can add/remove roles with usermod[20:14:22] <Gugge> "roles <user>" it seems, and the user added by the installer had the "root" role[20:14:32] <Gugge> enabling that made su work, but not the ssh key :)[20:15:06] *** Norrin has left #openindiana[20:16:50] <Tenzer> Ehm, I don't think that gives the user you have created root permissions. In a stock OpenIndiana installation you either have to use "sudo" or "su" to root in order to gain root permissions[20:17:10] <Gugge> yes, and the role "root" enabled me to use "su"[20:17:43] <Tenzer> Oh, okay. I just always use sudo :)[20:18:24] <Gugge> this user does not need to be able to use su though, so i removed the root role again :[20:18:34] <Gugge> now i just need to figure out what else is different on the two users ...[20:19:35] <Tenzer> You also have made sure the correct user owns the .ssh folder and authorized_keys file?[20:19:53] <Gugge> yep, i logged in with the password and created the folder and file as the user itself[20:21:36] *** bens1 has quit IRC[20:23:39] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[20:27:18] *** bens1 has quit IRC[20:29:06] *** girafe has quit IRC[20:43:47] *** wilsonkk has joined #openindiana[20:47:55] *** wickedwonka has quit IRC[20:48:18] *** wickedwonka has joined #openindiana[20:52:14] *** wickedwonka has quit IRC[20:52:31] *** wickedwonka has joined #openindiana[20:54:34] *** wickedwonka has quit IRC[20:54:55] *** wickedwonka has joined #openindiana[20:54:59] *** jw_urodoc has joined #openindiana[20:59:05] *** wickedwonka has quit IRC[20:59:22] *** wickedwonka has joined #openindiana[21:00:14] *** wickedwonka has quit IRC[21:04:44] <analog_> http://tiny.cc/wz6vy request for comment on zfs config.[21:06:07] *** worsoe has joined #openindiana[21:06:47] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[21:07:15] <Alasdairrr> analog_: looks good[21:07:56] <Alasdairrr> good choice in SAS HBA[21:08:04] *** reddi has quit IRC[21:08:27] <Alasdairrr> analog_: those SSDs for use as L2ARC or ZIL?[21:09:42] <analog_> none. just as mirror[21:10:17] <analog_> it's what someone suggested yesterday on this channel.[21:10:33] <Alasdairrr> mirror for what? boot?[21:10:51] <nahamu> Alasdairrr: scroll down on the page[21:10:57] <nahamu> usage is described[21:11:01] <Alasdairrr> ETOOMUCHREADING[21:11:08] <analog_> remote boot and vm boot disks[21:11:13] <Alasdairrr> okie dokie[21:11:22] <analog_> boot disks arent listed, isnt that interesting.[21:11:57] <analog_> also, haven't decided on, the 'big' pool is going to do spindown, ill use the the ssd and smaller one for daily usage and sync to 'archive' weekly i think.[21:12:17] *** reddi has joined #openindiana[21:22:59] <analog_> Alasdairrr: i was wondering if one or two quadcores would be 'required'[21:23:10] <analog_> i was wondering how much it would affect performance[21:23:22] <Alasdairrr> depends how important performance is![21:23:24] <analog_> because it saves 400euros[21:23:34] <Alasdairrr> you could try it with one, and add another if needed[21:23:37] <Alasdairrr> you're probably fine with just one[21:23:43] <analog_> but what about matched pairs then?[21:23:46] <Alasdairrr> two would be needed if you're doing 10GigE etc[21:23:46] <analog_> is that still a thing[21:23:58] <analog_> hm, well i planned for IB[21:23:58] <Alasdairrr> if you have one CPU then the system can only support half of it's maximum[21:24:08] <analog_> besides the ZFS operation ?[21:24:15] <analog_> or including[21:24:48] <Alasdairrr> ZFS itself isn't massively CPU intensive, it's usually a combination of things that gets the system busy, like lots of clients doing lots of iops and lots of bandwidth[21:25:03] <Alasdairrr> You could go with cheaper E5504 CPUs[21:25:06] <Alasdairrr> We're using those[21:25:17] <analog_> okay, but is it a possibility to get matched pairs with time in between purchase ?[21:25:32] <Alasdairrr> Intel chips are compatible at a model number[21:25:34] <analog_> it was the alternative, but it's actually planned for soho use, so[21:25:46] <Alasdairrr> So as long as you buy another L5506 or whatever you get, it'll be fine[21:26:07] <analog_> okay, improvement over few years ago[21:26:16] <analog_> where you need to match 5 letter/number codes[21:26:50] <Alasdairrr> maybe i've just been lucky[21:26:59] <analog_> ill start with one then and take my chances[21:27:42] <analog_> also, i was wondering, is the mixture of controllers in volumes/zpools hurtful ? and how much troughput can i expect from those controllers[21:27:57] *** wickedwonka has joined #openindiana[21:28:07] <Alasdairrr> it's irrelevent these days[21:28:09] <analog_> i saw iometer benches with the lsi and 8 intel x25-e with over 1gbyte[21:28:16] <analog_> even for the ssds?[21:28:22] <Alasdairrr> you'll be limited by IOPs not throughput[21:28:26] <analog_> okay.[21:28:47] <analog_> best solution is to distribute load for extra iops then ?[21:28:49] <Alasdairrr> real world scenarios are very different to artificial "straight line performance" tests which try to max out bandwidth[21:29:21] <Alasdairrr> I honestly don't think you'd see a difference, with PCIe 9211-8i controllers, if you benchmark it one way, then benchmark it another, you'll notice no difference[21:29:29] <analog_> hm okay.[21:29:41] <Alasdairrr> the statistical deviation between performance tests themselves will exceed the performance difference between different layouts[21:29:48] <analog_> okay.[21:29:49] <Alasdairrr> IMHO obviously, if you care you probably want to test[21:29:52] <analog_> good to know[21:29:58] *** wickedwonka has quit IRC[21:30:10] <Alasdairrr> but when it comes to random read/write workloads, disks are a lot slower than PCIe busses, even SSDs[21:30:19] <analog_> it's something more and more is happening with alot of computery related performance indicators[21:31:02] *** sdi has quit IRC[21:31:36] <analog_> more hw is more efficient than that sweetspot configuration.[21:32:13] *** melliott has quit IRC[21:32:19] <Alasdairrr> the commodity hardware of today can completely outperform $1M+ SANs of only a few years ago[21:32:24] <Alasdairrr> for a 100th of the cost[21:33:31] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[21:33:34] <Alasdairrr> http://137.254.16.27/bmc/entry/fishworks_now_it_can_be[21:33:35] <Alasdairrr> a good read[21:34:41] <analog_> if you have more good readings, do link. these kinds of articles are interesting. (pm)[21:36:06] *** kenon has quit IRC[21:36:10] *** spanglywires has quit IRC[21:40:06] *** wickedwonka has joined #openindiana[21:43:12] *** melliott has joined #openindiana[21:43:56] *** flyz has quit IRC[21:50:37] *** PlasticLawnDaemo is now known as PLD[21:54:08] <Patrickdk> you haven't had to have matched set cpu's since the p3's[21:59:13] *** wickedwonka has quit IRC[21:59:25] <adama> you didn't need matched cpus with p3s either[22:00:46] <Patrickdk> sure you did[22:01:06] <Patrickdk> cause I have a whole pile of p3 1.4ghz here, and they only boot if they are the same[22:01:16] <adama> untrue[22:01:20] <_Tenchi_> heh, been misreading p3 as ps3[22:01:33] <_Tenchi_> and was thinking "damn these guys are hacking cpus on the ps3... that's hardcore"[22:02:03] <adama> perhaps your particular chipset enforces matched steppings[22:02:04] <_Tenchi_> but no, you're discussing obsolete cpus from the olden days[22:02:05] <adama> not all of them did[22:02:17] <adama> certainly the BX didn't[22:02:35] <adama> running unmatched CPUs was quite common on the BP6[22:02:35] <Patrickdk> didn't think the bx chipset did dual cpu at all[22:02:39] <adama> it did[22:02:58] <adama> but it wasn't overpri^wenterprise[22:03:27] <adama> so there were only a handful of dual boards[22:03:30] <Patrickdk> I used the HE-SL chipset[22:03:31] <adama> i had one in about 1998[22:03:38] <adama> that wasn't even intel[22:03:50] <adama> it was those other guys who came along fairly later[22:04:07] <Patrickdk> are you talking about the dual celeron things?[22:04:12] <adama> serverworks[22:04:14] <adama> they're the ones[22:04:29] <adama> the bp6 was intended as a celeron board, yeah[22:04:36] <Patrickdk> ServerWorks ServerSet III HE-SL[22:04:37] <adama> as they were the only cpus for that socket at the time of launch[22:04:41] <Patrickdk> that is the chipset on my boards[22:04:45] <adama> but it would take p3s too[22:04:56] <adama> it'd take coppermines[22:05:07] <Patrickdk> these would only take coppermines nothing else[22:05:09] <adama> and tualatin[22:05:14] <adama> well[22:05:17] <Patrickdk> p3 1.0 to 1.4ghz[22:05:22] <adama> sounds like laziness no the part of serverworks[22:05:24] <adama> like i said[22:05:29] <adama> overpri^wenterprise[22:05:35] <adama> usually inflexible slightly shit kit[22:05:38] <Patrickdk> must install resisterpack if you didn't install 2 cpu's[22:05:51] <adama> massively superceded by much cheaper consumer kit 3 days after launch[22:05:57] <adama> yeah, i remember those boards[22:06:46] <Patrickdk> dunno, seems to work good[22:06:50] <Patrickdk> still running strong :)[22:06:56] *** enmand has quit IRC[22:07:06] <Patrickdk> have 4 of them in productions still[22:07:08] <adama> heh[22:07:18] <adama> my fileserver here is a 1ghz p3 on a bx board[22:07:31] <adama> sadly coppermine not tualatin :([22:08:01] <Patrickdk> mine is a dual E5630 :)[22:08:15] <Patrickdk> 96gig ram[22:08:30] <Patrickdk> sadly, that is for my home system[22:09:40] <adama> seems pointless[22:10:03] <Patrickdk> not really[22:10:21] <Patrickdk> 30 or 40 vm's I need to run on it[22:19:20] *** richlowe has quit IRC[22:25:27] *** girafe has joined #openindiana[22:29:27] <patdk-lap> hmm, no clamav on sfe :([22:29:55][22:30:03] <patdk-lap> :)[22:30:23] <patdk-lap> thinking I will do it the way I normally do, over nfs[22:30:27] <patdk-lap> probably safer anyways, to keep load down[22:30:30] <tomww> herzen: ping :-) patdk-lap would love to see clamav in the binary repo :)[22:30:47] <patdk-lap> heh, I could easily compile it myself :)[22:30:51] <patdk-lap> not scared[22:33:49] <tomww> you know what you might have a good use for might be as well welcomed by al lot others, thats the driving force behind SFE :)[22:34:20] <patdk-lap> well, I know all the email stuff is in it :)[22:34:23] <patdk-lap> so I thought it might be[22:34:29] <patdk-lap> you know, can't have email without spam/virus[22:34:36] *** wigyori has joined #openindiana[22:35:26] *** richlowe has joined #openindiana[22:35:57] <herzen> tomww: actually, I don't know why clamav isn't in the repo.[22:36:37] <herzen> is diagnostic/clamav a good name for it? I couldn't think of anything better.[22:39:51] *** TomJ has joined #openindiana[22:40:02] <Gugge> anyone know what is needed to be able to login with an ssh key. ~/.ssh/authorized_keys have the key, .ssh is 700, authorized_keys is 600, the user has a password[22:40:25] <Gugge> it works on the user created by the installer, but not the user i created with useradd[22:41:54] *** wickedwonka has joined #openindiana[22:47:12] <tomww> herzen: lol[22:47:13] <tomww> :)[22:47:39] <patdk-lap> diagnostic?[22:47:49] <patdk-lap> isn't it normally under, security[22:49:29] *** wickedwonka has quit IRC[22:54:10] *** [gorgo] has joined #openindiana[22:54:55] *** Tenzer has quit IRC[22:58:37] <[gorgo]> hello. got a zpool on sol11 which got locked up because of the disk was disconnected for a while (couple of days). even zpool status locks up. any way to solve this without reboot?[23:00:10] <herzen> patdk-lap: didn't know about that one. I'll use "security/" then. thanks.[23:04:18] *** xmikus01 has joined #openindiana[23:07:48] <herzen> hm, the spec itself uses "antivirus/clamav", but there aren't any other packages that use that prefix.[23:08:22] <herzen> so I'll use "security", unless anyone has objections.[23:14:48] <patdk-lap> I was just thinking where freebsd has it[23:16:51] <herzen> freeBSD has hierarchical package names?[23:17:13] <patdk-lap> ever since I used it[23:17:43] <Gugge> not the package names, the port names/dirs are though[23:17:49] <patdk-lap> ya[23:18:50] <herzen> right. it's under the category "security". :-)[23:22:59] <tomww> is there maybe a list of most commonly used categories on the net? so to mostly just follow that...[23:23:39] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[23:24:13] * patdk-lap shoves it under, tools[23:24:14] <herzen> I just try to go with the prefixes that S11 already uses.[23:25:21] <tomww> that should have the higest priority, right. not necessarily saying that those categories are always the best choice .)[23:26:00] <herzen> patdk-lap: there are no packages that come up if you do "pkg list -a tools/*".[23:26:09] <patdk-lap> :([23:26:45] <patdk-lap> freebsd's lang and devel always confused me[23:27:01] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[23:27:27] <herzen> tomww: yes, for example I don't like that wxwidgets goes under library/graphics instead of library/desktop.[23:28:07] <herzen> gtk2 goes under library/desktop.[23:31:54] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[23:33:36] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[23:33:38] *** worsoe has quit IRC[23:41:34] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[23:44:35] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[23:46:04] *** xmikus01 has quit IRC[23:46:37] *** bens1 has quit IRC[23:49:35] <herzen> OK, security/clamav has been added to oi-sfe.[23:52:37] *** CoilDomain has quit IRC