January 9, 2012 
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January 9, 2012 [00:03:37] *** CoilDomain has quit IRC[00:09:05] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[00:09:38] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[00:30:12] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[00:42:13] *** DrLou_ has quit IRC[01:02:39] *** CVLTCMK0 has quit IRC[01:08:39] *** CVLTCMK0 has joined #openindiana[01:10:36] *** Silikon has quit IRC[01:11:11] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[01:11:11] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[01:12:47] *** Botanic__ has joined #openindiana[01:13:15] *** Botanic_ has quit IRC[01:16:20] *** Botanic has quit IRC[01:26:17] *** Edgeman has quit IRC[01:31:42] *** Edgeman has joined #openindiana[01:31:52] *** Mech0z_ has joined #openindiana[01:33:44] *** Mech0z has quit IRC[01:39:43] *** monta-`_ has quit IRC[01:41:47] *** herzen has quit IRC[01:42:02] *** movement has quit IRC[01:45:37] *** herzen has joined #openindiana[01:47:50] *** monta-` has joined #openindiana[01:48:17] *** yakov__ has quit IRC[01:54:23] *** movement has joined #openindiana[01:59:09] *** sponix has quit IRC[02:06:10] <gentoofan> Are you guys able to boot off raidz2?[02:06:34] <freetown2> yes[02:08:06] <gentoofan> Is there documentation describing how that works available anywhere?[02:08:42] <freetown2> oops[02:08:53] <freetown2> sorry read that wrong[02:09:03] <freetown2> not any raidz[02:09:09] <freetown2> only mirrors[02:09:17] <gentoofan> Darn. I need to do more patching then. :([02:10:36] <gentoofan> One of the FreeBSD people seem to have patched a bootloader to provide RAIDZ support. I assume it is the FreeBSD bootloader. Do you know if there would be any licensing issues if I tried to adapt that to Illumos GRUB: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2008-December/005498.html[02:11:28] <gentoofan> freetown2: Thanks for the information.[02:17:25] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[02:20:29] *** kenon_ has quit IRC[02:30:41] *** Mech0z_ has quit IRC[02:36:48] *** kenon_ has joined #openindiana[02:39:01] *** kenon has quit IRC[02:40:56] <fiyawerx> with the latest versions of OI, do you still need to do special things like creating your zpool on another system to get ashift of 12 for 4k sector drives?[02:44:53] *** licenser has quit IRC[03:16:39] *** niner has joined #openindiana[03:17:51] *** crsd has left #openindiana[03:23:17] *** doug_ndndn has quit IRC[03:38:22] *** doug_ndndn has joined #openindiana[03:40:21] *** niner has quit IRC[03:48:28] *** enmand has quit IRC[03:54:06] <myrkraverk> Hmm, I'm trying to debug PL/Java with dbx. I haven't done than I think since using Solaris 11X. Is it possibly something in OI is preventing me from switching to Java with jon?[03:54:13] <myrkraverk> (dbx) jon[03:54:13] <myrkraverk> jon: not found[03:54:21] <myrkraverk> Is what I get. And I don't know what is "not found."[03:54:29] *** mercutio has quit IRC[03:54:56] <myrkraverk> Debugging "plain old java programs" with dbx works.[03:58:15] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[04:01:24] <myrkraverk> Ah, it seems I've not set the debugging variables correctly for the JVM or something.[04:07:57] *** gb_away has quit IRC[04:08:59] *** gb_away has joined #openindiana[04:14:27] *** doug_ndndn has quit IRC[04:17:22] *** doug_ndndn has joined #openindiana[04:24:05] *** kart_ has quit IRC[04:24:48] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[04:27:44] *** wickedwonka has quit IRC[04:31:34] <myrkraverk> And now documented here: http://my.opera.com/myrkraverk/blog/2010/12/11/debugging-pl-java-with-dbx#comment79469672[04:48:01] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[05:03:40] *** wickedwonka has joined #openindiana[05:12:42] *** wickedwonka has quit IRC[05:13:05] *** wickedwonka has joined #openindiana[05:34:34] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[05:35:02] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[05:45:18] *** 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never heard anyone discuss something called "openillinois" before[23:33:16] <gusto> however, i now found the website at least[23:33:39] <gusto> and there is a channel #illumos too[23:33:40] <gusto> cool[23:35:48] *** ruse39 has quit IRC[23:40:50] <gusto> btw. does someone have openindiana installed on GPT partition table?[23:42:03] <gusto> i am lately totally astonished by that GPT, i installed freebsd9 and linux all on a gpt partition table disk, but have not tried opensolaris yet[23:42:11] <gusto> i mean openindiana[23:52:51] *** gusto has quit IRC[23:54:41] *** dajhorn has joined #openindiana[23:55:43] <lennard> now how am I to tell him 'yes'?[23:56:05] <lennard> or rather, 'sortof'[23:56:13] <tsoome> sortof?[23:57:06] *** gusto has joined #openindiana[23:57:14] <lennard> well, it wasnt as much an installation as much as it was a virtual installation, a send/receive, and some grub2 magic which was installed from a linux also elsewhere in the GPT[23:57:44] <lennard> but, its entirely on a GPT and it used to boot untill I managed to zpool add instead of zpool attach[23:59:06] <gusto> ??[23:59:22] <gusto> what did that zpool add command to it?[23:59:30] *** kenon has joined #openindiana[23:59:41] <lennard> it made it something not a mirror[23:59:48] <lennard> so after that it wouldnt boot from it ;)