January 3, 2012 
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January 3, 2012 [00:00:40] *** yakov has quit IRC[00:03:00] *** herzen has joined #openindiana[00:07:00] <floogy> Hi, I read something about an svm fork of the kvm implementation of openindiana here:http://wiki.openindiana.org/display/oi/Using+KVM?focusedCommentId=17629186#comment-17629186[00:07:24] <floogy> Does someone know something about that?[00:07:48] <Triskelios> floogy: LeftWing, on #illumos is mostly responsible for it[00:08:19] <floogy> Does it work yet?[00:09:00] <Triskelios> yes[00:10:11] <floogy> Oh, that's good news, thx for the hint. Just because it would be handy, do you have a link or sth. similar?[00:10:58] <floogy> e.g. is ther a git hub or sth. else?[00:11:05] *** hajma has quit IRC[00:11:07] <Triskelios> https://github.com/jclulow/illumos-kvm/[00:11:34] <floogy> wow, thank you![00:14:13] <Triskelios> if you look at the graph, someone did a re-merge of with with the later joyent changes[00:16:18] *** [1]kimc has joined #openindiana[00:16:59] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[00:17:05] <floogy> Do you think it will go into thestable release?[00:18:32] *** kimc has quit IRC[00:18:32] *** [1]kimc is now known as kimc[00:20:21] <floogy> s/will go into/will make it into/[00:31:39] *** yakov has joined #openindiana[00:35:14] *** c2n2 has joined #openindiana[00:35:56] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[01:09:34] *** ruse39 has quit IRC[01:11:20] *** c2n2 has quit IRC[01:18:24] *** laogrymt has joined #openindiana[01:20:00] *** Botanic has quit IRC[01:23:38] *** gb_away has quit IRC[01:33:31] *** enmand has quit IRC[01:55:17] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[01:58:03] *** twistor has joined #openindiana[02:06:51] *** Henkis has quit IRC[02:08:05] *** _wilsonkk_ has quit IRC[02:43:38] *** yakov has quit IRC[02:44:52] *** laogrymt has quit IRC[02:58:32] *** PiotrSikora has quit IRC[02:59:33] *** PiotrSikora has joined #openindiana[02:59:58] *** gb_away has joined #openindiana[03:03:26] *** c2n2 has joined #openindiana[03:15:47] *** ruse39 has joined #openindiana[03:16:11] *** Neddie has joined #openindiana[03:21:25] *** synegy34 has quit IRC[03:23:22] *** synegy34 has joined #openindiana[03:24:11] *** synegy34 has joined #openindiana[03:38:16] *** floogy has quit IRC[03:57:05] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[04:04:15] *** Norrin has joined #openindiana[04:07:05] *** NorrinRadd has quit IRC[04:07:40] *** foos has joined #openindiana[04:15:37] *** DocHoliday has left #openindiana[04:17:57] *** Neddie_ has joined #openindiana[04:20:25] *** kd has joined #openindiana[04:20:33] *** Neddie has quit IRC[04:28:34] *** twistor has quit IRC[04:33:02] *** Neddie_ is now known as Neddie[04:34:34] <kshannon> perl6: mirror(Mu, Mu);[04:34:46] <kshannon> Oops, wrong channel.[04:38:34] *** virtualdirt has joined #openindiana[04:48:25] *** d_k has quit IRC[04:50:05] *** syoyo has joined #openindiana[04:57:54] <virtualdirt> hi all[04:59:02] *** bradend2 has quit IRC[04:59:05] *** d_k has joined #openindiana[04:59:41] *** bradend has joined #openindiana[05:03:43] *** kfritz has quit IRC[05:11:19] *** syoyo has quit IRC[05:12:45] *** tsoome1 has joined #openindiana[05:12:45] *** tsoome has quit IRC[05:12:46] *** tsoome1 is now known as tsoome[05:19:46] *** Orii_ has joined #openindiana[05:19:57] *** Orii has quit IRC[05:20:04] *** Orii_ is now known as Orii[05:58:48] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[05:58:48] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[06:00:09] *** Botanic_ has joined #openindiana[06:04:10] *** Botanic has quit IRC[06:22:48] *** licenser has joined #openindiana[06:26:31] *** licenser has quit IRC[06:28:15] *** foos has quit IRC[06:47:09] *** cpny has joined #openindiana[06:49:22] *** cpny_ has quit IRC[06:50:14] *** cpny has quit IRC[07:17:59] *** jedi4ever has joined #openindiana[07:18:30] *** jedi4ever has quit IRC[07:19:09] *** jedi4ever has joined #openindiana[07:25:29] *** Orii has quit IRC[07:28:47] *** licenser has joined #openindiana[07:52:24] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[07:53:27] *** johest has joined #openindiana[07:53:28] *** johest has quit IRC[07:53:28] *** johest has joined #openindiana[08:00:54] *** MerlinDMC has joined #openindiana[08:02:17] *** ianj has quit IRC[08:03:03] *** ianj has joined #openindiana[08:04:49] *** licenser has quit IRC[08:06:59] *** myrkraverk has quit IRC[08:07:05] *** licenser has joined #openindiana[08:08:34] *** freetown2 has joined #openindiana[08:09:49] *** Worsoe has joined #openindiana[08:18:21] *** moriett has joined #openindiana[08:22:24] <Garo_> Wraithh: I blogged my installation procedure here if you're interested: http://www.juhonkoti.net/2012/01/02/building-a-85tb-cheap-storage-server-with-solaris-openindiana[08:26:56] *** c2n2 has quit IRC[08:28:34] <Neddie> that's great[08:28:53] *** Zenos has joined #openindiana[08:37:43] *** DeviceZer0 has quit IRC[08:42:23] <gentoofan> LeftWing: Does OpenIndiana's KVM implementation support PCI-E passthrough?[08:45:33] <gentoofan> Also, I sort of got things working on Linux, but I had to change from a network attached tuner to an internal one. My original attempts at this failed, but thankfully, someone updated the KVM documentation and I was able to use that to get the PCI-E passthrough to work. Linux is still dropping packets on me, but it isn't so bad now that the television recordings won't be corrupted. I will also probably virtualize OpenIndiana so I can play ...[08:45:39] <gentoofan> ... with it. KVM supports nested virtualization, so I would be able to do experiments with the AMD KVM support in OpenIndiana inside a virtual machine.[08:46:30] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[08:50:38] <gentoofan> At the moment, I would prefer to be using ZRAID2 with zvols instead of RAID 6 with LVM logical volumes, so I might still switch to OpenIndiana. I think that ZRAID2 would give me superior data integrity guarentees and performance to what RAID6 gives me.[08:51:15] <Agnar> gentoofan: at least ZFS gives you a always stable filesystem[08:51:39] <Agnar> which is actually more important than the raid technology behind it :)[08:51:59] <gentoofan> Agnar: I am thinking of trying both the ZFS On Linux kernel module and OpenIndiana in parallel in virtual machines to see how well it works for myself.[08:52:46] <gentoofan> I really don't like how Linux does things though. Data integrity and reliability take a back seat to getting functionality. :/[08:54:29] <gentoofan> Also, I have read about the technology behind ZRAID. It should be able to transparently detect and correct bit flips that occurred as a result of a cosmic ray hitting the drive's memory before its microcontroller executed its internal parity calculation prior to writing it to the disk.[08:54:33] <Agnar> gentoofan: I'm sure you'll find your way.[08:54:55] <gentoofan> That and it doesn't have the RAID 5/6 write hole. :)[09:00:55] <Agnar> you never have a fsck...[09:01:32] <Agnar> and you are loving that fact when you ever had a 28TB filesystem (backup mediaserver buffer disk) to fsck...[09:05:42] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[09:07:35] *** Botanic_ has quit IRC[09:14:06] <gentoofan> Agnar: That is also neat, although I don't fsck very frequently as it is.[09:14:17] *** alcir has joined #openindiana[09:15:14] <Agnar> gentoofan: you will, if your box crashes :)[09:16:55] <gentoofan> Does ZRAID support scrubbing?[09:19:00] <Agnar> all zpools support scrubbing of course[09:20:54] <gentoofan> Cool. OpenIndiana keeps looking better and better. :)[09:23:20] *** smrt has quit IRC[09:23:38] *** smrt has joined #openindiana[09:26:08] <Agnar> gentoofan: btw, you know that you can test all zfs features in a smart and easy way by creating a pool on files?[09:26:25] *** baitisj has quit IRC[09:26:59] *** den_sk has joined #openindiana[09:27:03] <Agnar> gentoofan: for i in 0 1 2 3 4; do mkfile 100m poolfile$i; done; zpool create testraid raidz `pwd`/poolfile*; done[09:27:04] <gentoofan> I didn't.[09:27:26] <Agnar> you just need (for that "script") 500mb free disk space[09:27:49] <Agnar> you can create raidz, raidz2, mirrors, stripes, whatever-you-like that way :)[09:28:08] <Agnar> it's not fast, but good way to play around :)[09:28:23] <Agnar> you can also use usb-sticks btw...or floppy disks if you like ,)[09:28:32] <gentoofan> I see what you mean now. You are using the files as block devices.[09:28:47] <Agnar> yes[09:29:27] <gentoofan> Wow, that is really short. Doing the equivalent with Linux software RAID and LVM wouldn't comfortably fit on a line.[09:29:39] <Agnar> zfs rocks, eh? ;)[09:30:32] <gentoofan> Yes, it is awesome. I should tell the UNIX administrator in my department that he should look into replacing our hardware RAID 5 controllers with ZFS. He loves Solaris, so I am sure he would do it if he realized the potential.[09:31:33] <gentoofan> I am actually speaking to you from irssi running inside of screen on a Solaris 10 machine into which I logged into using SSH.[09:33:01] <gentoofan> That was probably one too many prepositions, but the setup is really awesome. :)[09:36:44] <gentoofan> I said that because I'm a CS graduate student. I only have the ability to do things on my own time that require root privileges on systems that I own.[09:36:54] <gentoofan> s/said/say/[09:37:39] <Agnar> SunOS toy 5.11 oi_150 sun4v sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-T200[09:37:45] <Agnar> this is my local box ,)[09:38:34] <gentoofan> I am currently on a sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-1500 Solaris[09:38:48] <Agnar> look a the "oi_150" :)[09:38:59] <gentoofan> OpenIndiana?[09:39:10] <Agnar> sure...but not a complete build :)[09:39:17] <gentoofan> Oh cool. You have OpenIndiana running on that.[09:39:19] <Agnar> i'm using development repositories[09:39:48] <Agnar> well, it's more a OpenSolaris 134 with a OI 147,148 and 150 bits ;)[09:40:01] <gentoofan> The oldest system on which I have access is this: SunOS sparky 5.9 Generic_122300-60 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-V440[09:40:27] <gentoofan> Agnar: I take it that you installed the 150 kernel.[09:40:28] <Agnar> not so old actually[09:40:44] <gentoofan> What do you consider old?[09:41:11] <Agnar> we still have a solaris 2.6 sparc station 10 running as a offset-printing unit :)[09:41:20] <gentoofan> Wow.[09:41:21] <Agnar> that's what i consider old :)[09:41:44] <Agnar> and nobody wants to touch it, because all fear to break it ;)[09:41:59] <gentoofan> lol[09:42:12] <gentoofan> The OS is EOL. I would probably lock it down very heavily if I were you.[09:42:18] <gentoofan> No rlogin. :P[09:42:47] *** gotwf has joined #openindiana[09:43:12] <Agnar> gentoofan: oh, we have ssh on it...and it's not really reachable from outside the office[09:43:33] *** gotwf has quit IRC[09:43:33] <Agnar> and if someone get's on it, he maybe use a 100kEUR printer to print porn or so ,)[09:43:42] <Agnar> the box can't really do anything else ,)[09:44:39] <gentoofan> I imagine that it could run irssi inside of screen.[09:46:03] <Agnar> gentoofan: yes, but the box is not allowed to communicate to outside the network (except ssh-tunnels and stuff), so any bad guy would use one of the way faster modern boxes, he already had to hack to get there :)[09:51:54] *** spanglywires has joined #openindiana[09:57:22] *** licenser has quit IRC[09:59:12] <gentoofan> Agnar: That is probably for the best.[10:00:25] *** licenser has joined #openindiana[10:05:48] *** Whoopsie has joined #openindiana[10:05:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Whoopsie[10:16:54] *** arrowdodger has joined #openindiana[10:22:30] *** tsoome has quit IRC[10:22:57] *** muv has joined #openindiana[10:23:13] *** DeviceZer0 has joined #openindiana[10:25:52] *** muv has left #openindiana[10:28:55] *** kforbz has joined #openindiana[10:49:08] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[10:51:59] *** Tenzer has joined #openindiana[11:00:28] *** darth_raijin is now known as darth_P_I_M_P[11:02:17] *** darth_P_I_M_P is now known as darth_raijin[11:08:45] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[11:19:24] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[11:22:51] *** master_of_master has joined #openindiana[11:25:18] *** darth_raijin is now known as antehelion[11:26:36] *** antehelion is now known as raininja[11:27:59] *** heldus has quit IRC[11:35:29] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[11:42:18] *** raininja is now known as darth_raijin[11:45:26] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[11:49:01] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[11:52:28] *** sponix has quit IRC[11:54:00] *** heldus has joined #openindiana[11:58:40] *** sponix has joined #openindiana[12:02:15] *** alcir has quit IRC[12:03:41] *** alcir has joined #openindiana[12:08:25] *** Neddie has quit IRC[12:20:54] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[12:24:32] *** kart_ has quit IRC[12:24:44] *** den_sk has left #openindiana[12:37:21] *** kd has quit IRC[12:43:29] *** licenser has quit IRC[13:05:10] *** jedi4ever has quit IRC[13:07:48] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[13:25:16] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[13:27:06] *** gentoofan has quit IRC[13:29:41] *** MerlinDM has joined #openindiana[13:31:49] *** MerlinDMC has quit IRC[13:36:56] *** BurnerGR has joined #openindiana[13:45:29] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[13:48:54] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[13:54:07] *** enmand has quit IRC[14:00:28] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[14:00:52] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[14:08:13] *** enmand has joined #openindiana[14:14:31] *** rbanffy has joined #openindiana[14:21:55] *** licenser has joined #openindiana[14:22:46] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[14:25:34] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[14:30:48] *** sponix has quit IRC[14:36:38] *** laogrymt__ has joined #openindiana[14:37:46] *** rbanffy has quit IRC[14:39:24] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[14:45:51] <arrowdodger> What's root password in OI Live CD?[14:48:45] <Tenzer> arrowdodger: There aren't any. Use 'sudo'[14:49:04] <Tenzer> You can possibly also just enter 'su -' and then get a root prompt, I can't remember[14:51:24] <arrowdodger> Tenzer: I've booted Live USB and tried to set up network. It asks for a password[14:52:15] <Tenzer> arrowdodger: You can probably set one by using 'sudo passwd root'[14:52:48] <arrowdodger> Right. Thanks.[14:53:04] *** disharmony has joined #openindiana[14:53:06] <disharmony> Hi[14:53:10] <Tenzer> Hello[14:53:31] *** sponix has joined #openindiana[14:54:18] <disharmony> I am trying to migrate from snv134 to oi151a, and actually I was looking for a place to get saslauthd for postfix. Perhaps anyone an idea? I used to use csw on osol134 before[14:54:56] <patdk-wk> saslauthd would be part of cyrus-sasl[14:54:57] <arrowdodger> How do i manually set DNS servers to use?[14:55:19] <Tenzer> arrowdodger: You specify them inside /etc/resolv.conf as "nameserver <ip address>"[14:55:42] <disharmony> patdk-wk: I know, but I am afraid there is no cyrus-sasl IPS package; or do you perhaps know a publisher who does provide cyrus-sasl ?[14:55:49] <Tenzer> arrowdodger: And then you would probably want to run "cp /etc/nsswitch.dns /etc/nsswitch.conf" in order for the system to use DNS at all[14:56:43] <arrowdodger> Ok, thanks. I thought, there would be a GUI thing.[14:56:59] <Tenzer> arrowdodger: There might be, I don't know. I only use OI for servers :)[14:57:07] <arrowdodger> Ah, i see.[14:57:32] <Tenzer> disharmony: There is a dovecot package which pops up when I search for cyrus at http://pkg.openindiana.org/sfe/[14:57:34] <lblume> Shhhhh, talking about guis to Solaris people is like talking about cli to Windows people. Anathema![14:57:42] <Tenzer> ;)[14:58:39] <disharmony> Tenzer: Hmm I have dovecot installed from sfe.. but I'm missing saslauthd :'([14:58:41] <patdk-wk> disharmony, I see no saslauthd package, are you sure postfix is even compiled to support cyrus-sasl? and not just only dovecot[14:58:52] <patdk-wk> dovecot doesn't use saslauthd[14:58:54] <lblume> Solaris' philosophy is "Simple things must be complicated, difficult things must be easy"[14:59:19] <disharmony> I want to use it form smtps authtentication[14:59:35] <patdk-wk> well, use dovecot then[15:00:04] *** rbanffy has joined #openindiana[15:00:04] <patdk-wk> dovecot is hundreds of times easier to configure auth for than cyrus-sasl[15:00:29] *** laogrymt__ has quit IRC[15:00:56] <disharmony> patdk-wk: ok, i'll dig into that; thanks[15:01:11] <patdk-wk> if you have questions, both dovecot and postfix websites explain how to do it[15:03:24] <arrowdodger> Hmm, something is wrong.[15:05:54] *** randw has joined #openindiana[15:06:35] *** gentoofan has joined #openindiana[15:07:37] *** Neddie has joined #openindiana[15:07:53] *** Ownage has joined #openindiana[15:08:27] <Ownage> hey, I'm wondering about ACLs. I set a bunch last night on a directory, and this morning they are changed back to default.. why is that?[15:09:39] <Ownage> and is there a way to prevent that? there are no admins on this box, its just here at my house. no cron jobs or anything else weird. It's a zfs mountpoint[15:11:27] * patdk-wk loves random acl's[15:11:30] <arrowdodger> Ok, i get it. My network card isn't working with OI. What should i do?[15:11:47] <lblume> ... buy a $5 card that does work?[15:12:07] <patdk-wk> what network card is it?[15:13:14] *** laogrymt__ has joined #openindiana[15:13:23] <arrowdodger> Not sure. How do i check it?[15:13:36] <arrowdodger> It's iprb0 driver.[15:13:41] <arrowdodger> iprb, i mean.[15:14:42] <patdk-wk> those are some old nic's[15:15:07] *** licenser has quit IRC[15:16:14] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[15:19:34] *** nvez has quit IRC[15:20:06] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[15:20:06] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[15:20:52] <arrowdodger> Well, it works. But awfully slow. ~50 bytes/sec.[15:21:36] <patdk-wk> I should have two of those nics at home actually[15:21:47] <patdk-wk> though I branded them as windows only, in case of emergancy[15:22:06] <patdk-wk> finding windows drivers is hard enough, aren't included in xp or win7[15:22:49] <patdk-wk> think they came out in the win98 age[15:23:14] <arrowdodger> This is bad. It seems, i should try FreeBSD instead OI. What a pity.[15:23:48] <arrowdodger> Ah, it's Intel 82562EZ.[15:25:09] <tsoome> 50bytes/sec?![15:25:17] <arrowdodger> Yup.[15:25:24] <tsoome> no errors?[15:25:28] *** nvez has quit IRC[15:25:59] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[15:25:59] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[15:26:09] <tsoome> autonegotiation confusion war between card and switch?[15:27:26] <disharmony> patdk-wk: switching to dovecot sasl works like a charm! thanks for the idea![15:27:38] *** bens1 has quit IRC[15:28:01] <arrowdodger> I've googled this: http://bugga.net/2005/09/28/solaris-10-x86-getting-intel-82562ez-asus-p5gd1-working/[15:28:13] <Agnar> arrowdodger: as tsoome says...try to set switchport and nic to fixed 100/fdx and disable autoneg.[15:28:39] <arrowdodger> But i can't do shutdown since i've booted from Live image and my changes will be lost.[15:29:18] <Agnar> arrowdodger: why shutdown? ndd -set /dev/iprb ...[15:29:52] *** nvez has quit IRC[15:30:07] <Agnar> sorry[15:30:14] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[15:30:14] <Agnar> dladm set-linkprop[15:30:24] <Agnar> it seems i'm a bit oldschool ,)[15:30:25] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[15:30:25] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[15:31:04] <arrowdodger> Agnar: I was speaking about that link. As for your advice - i'm complete noob with Solaris, so i have no idea how to do what you said.[15:32:32] *** randw has quit IRC[15:33:50] *** randw has joined #openindiana[15:34:47] *** Carmivore has quit IRC[15:36:24] *** nvez has quit IRC[15:36:54] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[15:37:00] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[15:38:56] <Agnar> arrowdodger: can you set the switch-port to a fixed setting for speed and duplex?[15:39:14] <arrowdodger> Only if you give me commands how to do that.[15:39:45] *** nvez has quit IRC[15:39:49] *** Neddie has quit IRC[15:40:17] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[15:40:17] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[15:40:32] <Agnar> arrowdodger: the switchport is not configurable from the client. You have to do it on the switch. What switch are you using?[15:40:58] <arrowdodger> Ah, switch. It's not switch, but a router DIR-320.[15:41:26] <Agnar> arrowdodger: can you configure your router-port?[15:41:37] <arrowdodger> I doubt it.[15:42:01] *** nvez has quit IRC[15:42:15] <Agnar> arrowdodger: ok. then, let's try if it works with just setting the NIC to the fixed settings[15:42:25] <arrowdodger> >WAN PORT SPEED[15:42:26] <arrowdodger> This?[15:42:36] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[15:42:36] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[15:42:54] <Agnar> arrowdodger: no, LAN PORT - WAN port is usually your uplink...[15:43:03] <arrowdodger> Oops, right.[15:43:05] *** Carmivore has joined #openindiana[15:44:20] <arrowdodger> Hmm. There is no such option for LAN. Maybe, it's affecting everything. Let me try to set it to 100.[15:44:47] <Agnar> arrowdodger: dladm set-linkprop -p adv_10hdx_cap=0,adv_10fdx_cap=0,adv_100hdx_cap=0,en_10hdx_cap=0,en_10fdx_cap=0,en_100hdx_cap,adv_100fdx_cap=1,en_100fdx_cap=1 iprb0[15:45:01] <Agnar> arrowdodger: do not set the WAN port setting...[15:45:08] <arrowdodger> Okay, okay.[15:45:15] <arrowdodger> Let's type this thing.[15:45:19] <Agnar> arrowdodger: or we'll see you ping timeout ,)[15:45:55] <Agnar> ah damn[15:46:06] <Agnar> i forgot you can't set adv_[15:46:32] <Agnar> arrowdodger: dladm set-linkprop -p en_10hdx_cap=0,en_10fdx_cap=0,en_100hdx_cap,en_100fdx_cap=1 iprb0[15:46:37] <Agnar> this one should be right[15:46:48] <arrowdodger> Ok, that's even shorter.[15:47:37] <Agnar> and...by the way...what does dladm show-phys iprb0 say?[15:47:44] <arrowdodger> Did you miss =1 for en_100hdx_cap?[15:48:14] <Agnar> no, but a =0 for en_100hdx_cap - sorry[15:49:10] <arrowdodger> It says 100 full[15:49:18] <patdk-wk> what does your switch say?[15:49:35] <arrowdodger> Dunno.[15:49:37] <Agnar> and now try again if your performance is better.[15:49:38] <patdk-wk> normally when you force one side, doesn't the other side, if on auto, go to 10half?[15:50:07] <Agnar> patdk-wk: not generally - if autoneg is broken, it will select "something" :)[15:50:13] <arrowdodger> Agnar: Nope, everything is same.[15:50:25] <Agnar> we have that here with intel NICs and cisco switches...[15:50:52] <patdk-wk> mine always neg half duplex, and I thought 10mbit on failed auto[15:50:56] <Agnar> arrowdodger: you could try to get a switch with fixed port settings or get another NIC[15:51:23] <patdk-wk> you can *have* my realtek's[15:52:07] <tsoome> those old 100Mbit cards can have broken autoneg. and in general, if you wanna switch off autoneg, you have to do it on both ends.[15:53:10] *** arrowdodger has quit IRC[15:53:49] <Agnar>[15:53:49] <Agnar> .[15:54:08] <Agnar> sorry.[15:56:35] *** nvez has quit IRC[15:57:08] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[15:57:08] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[15:58:32] *** arrowdodger has joined #openindiana[16:01:13] <arrowdodger> Still, take a look at http://bugga.net/2005/09/28/solaris-10-x86-getting-intel-82562ez-asus-p5gd1-working/[16:01:33] <arrowdodger> There is no iprb "8086,1064" line in OI's /etc/driver_aliases[16:01:47] <tsoome> that does not mean anything for you[16:01:47] <arrowdodger> Can this fix something?[16:01:50] <arrowdodger> Okay.[16:01:57] <arrowdodger> How unfortunate ):[16:02:25] <tsoome> the thing is, it will only add "support" for card in which chip does have PCI-ID "8086,1064"[16:02:32] <Agnar> arrowdodger: this would only help if the driver iprb is not loaded (so you can't see an iprb0)[16:02:46] <arrowdodger> I see.[16:03:09] <Agnar> arrowdodger: so. get a managable switch and a good NIC :)[16:03:11] <tsoome> basically there is database for every hw driver, telling to which pci-id to attach[16:03:38] <arrowdodger> Agnar: "and"? Not "or"?[16:04:24] <tsoome> i would start from nic (supposing that router you have, is not too old;)[16:06:26] <Ownage> am I crazy about the acl question?[16:07:16] <Agnar> arrowdodger: and :)[16:08:10] <Agnar> Ownage: ACLs...with setfacl? or with chmod?[16:08:17] <Ownage> chmod[16:09:03] <arrowdodger> Okay, thanks evryone for help.[16:09:21] <Ownage> the real quest here is "just" to have zfs share via nfs and smb, and allow for domain users and domain access control, which seems to be a different process than what I'm familiar with, coming from linux[16:10:53] <Agnar> Ownage: hm. ls -lv shows they are gone?[16:11:20] <Ownage> that's led me down a somewhat long path, which most recently has me setitng acls. I set them the other day, last night noticed they had changed. then set them again, this morning they are changed again[16:11:33] <Ownage> yeah I've been doing /bin/ls -vd /data/shows[16:11:57] <Agnar> Ownage: and "shows" cannot be deleted/modified by users?[16:12:00] *** moriett has quit IRC[16:12:25] <Ownage> there are no users at all, this is not in production, it's sitting around waiting for me to figure this all out[16:12:31] <Agnar> (so they could kill ACLs by re-creating the directory)[16:12:53] <Agnar> Ownage: is a backup-tool running?[16:12:53] *** nvez_ has joined #openindiana[16:13:19] <Ownage> I have a snapshot 'job' going through nappit I believe[16:14:09] <Agnar> Ownage: hm. since ACL's should not discard by themselfes, I'd go for dtrace and get the guy who modifies the ACL[16:15:12] *** tsoome has quit IRC[16:15:43] <Ownage> thanks that's what I feared[16:16:02] *** nvez has quit IRC[16:16:03] <Ownage> is there any kind of acl locking concept? like immutable for acls?[16:16:44] *** Shep_Book has joined #openindiana[16:19:07] *** alanc has joined #openindiana[16:19:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[16:19:17] <lblume> ACLs cannot "disappear". The Unix permissions are ACLs. Means they're modified by something, which I've never seen happen by itself.[16:20:18] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[16:20:20] <Ownage> all of those don't answer the question[16:20:23] *** nvez_ has quit IRC[16:20:34] <Agnar> lblume: exact. but dtrace will show them[16:20:43] <Ownage> I know the basics of ACLs, was just wondering if there happened to be some kind of protection for changes like that[16:20:44] <Agnar> (when they are modified)[16:20:47] <lblume> Ownage: There's no immutiability.[16:20:54] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[16:20:54] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[16:21:04] <Ownage> thanks. unfortunately for me I've never used anything more powerful than strace[16:22:16] <lblume> If you want to protect them, change the owner of the files, and be careful with the ACL to change ACL, I think it's change_xattr.[16:22:44] <lblume> Naaah, sorry, there's one called write_acl[16:23:23] <lblume> But it only amounts to hiding the real issue,[16:24:36] *** MerlinDM has quit IRC[16:24:58] *** licenser has joined #openindiana[16:25:23] *** nvez has quit IRC[16:25:57] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[16:25:57] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[16:26:52] <Agnar> Ownage: i'm about leaving office, but basically if you find out with syscall is used to change ACLs (I think it *should* be chmod(2)), it's more or less a dtrace -qs 'syscall::chmod:entry { if(copyinstr(arg1)=="/data/show") { printf("%Y Proc: %s[%d] issued chmod",walltimestamp, execname, pid)}' (typed without testing)[16:27:06] <Agnar> so..bye bye[16:27:21] <Ownage> bye thanks![16:30:11] *** laogrymt__ has quit IRC[16:30:45] *** nvez has quit IRC[16:31:15] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[16:31:15] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[16:35:10] *** disharmony has quit IRC[16:35:20] *** nvez has quit IRC[16:35:51] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[16:35:51] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[16:37:26] *** feizhou__ has joined #openindiana[16:40:36] *** feizhou_ has quit IRC[16:42:08] *** nvez has quit IRC[16:42:39] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[16:42:39] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[16:42:41] *** kforbz has quit IRC[16:48:13] *** laogrymt__ has joined #openindiana[16:48:37] *** hajma has quit IRC[16:55:33] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[16:55:34] *** nvez has quit IRC[16:56:04] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[16:56:04] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:00:29] *** nvez has quit IRC[17:00:32] *** patdk-wk has quit IRC[17:00:59] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:00:59] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:01:47] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[17:03:29] *** voidcoder has quit IRC[17:06:50] *** patdk-wk has joined #openindiana[17:08:22] *** nvez has quit IRC[17:08:54] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:08:54] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:09:41] *** voidcoder has joined #openindiana[17:13:32] *** nvez has quit IRC[17:14:02] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:14:02] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:14:38] *** jwk404 has joined #openindiana[17:14:54] <spanglywires> arrowdodger: tyan s2882 by anychance?[17:15:11] <spanglywires> arrowdodger: I'm having a fight with an iprb0 too[17:15:26] <arrowdodger> Eh? I didn't get what are you asking.[17:16:03] <spanglywires> your iprb0 issue - is it on a Tyan board that uses it for IPMI as well ?[17:16:21] <patdk-wk> he said it was asus p5gd1[17:16:27] <spanglywires> ah[17:16:30] <spanglywires> nevermind then[17:16:37] <arrowdodger> Not sure. Nope, that's not ASUS too.[17:16:40] <spanglywires> mines something different then[17:17:00] <arrowdodger> spanglywires: What's your symptomes?[17:17:09] <spanglywires> just doesn't work[17:17:22] <spanglywires> it responds for remote IPMI[17:17:28] <spanglywires> but doesn't work as a NIC[17:17:45] <spanglywires> I've had it working but re-installed recently and its not having it[17:18:33] <arrowdodger> Yes, it's different from mine.[17:18:33] *** nvez has quit IRC[17:18:42] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[17:19:07] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:19:07] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:19:39] *** alcir has quit IRC[17:20:15] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[17:21:37] *** movement_ has quit IRC[17:21:41] <spanglywires> i *think* its decided the nic and ipmi have the same mac address again… one to write up for the blog when I've got some time[17:24:55] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[17:26:12] *** nvez has quit IRC[17:26:45] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:26:45] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:29:45] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[17:32:19] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[17:33:03] *** raichoo has quit IRC[17:36:29] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[17:36:35] *** Tenzer has quit IRC[17:37:04] *** nvez has quit IRC[17:37:38] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:37:38] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:41:32] *** nvez has quit IRC[17:42:03] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:42:03] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:43:59] <raichoo> hi everyone[17:44:05] *** _404_Error_ has quit IRC[17:46:18] *** nvez has quit IRC[17:46:53] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:47:00] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[17:49:08] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[17:49:08] *** myrkraverk has joined #openindiana[17:50:19] <Okona> hi raichoo[18:05:56] *** nvez has quit IRC[18:06:29] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[18:06:29] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[18:08:29] *** nvez has quit IRC[18:09:01] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[18:09:01] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[18:10:29] *** arrowdodger has quit IRC[18:13:19] *** ripratm has joined #openindiana[18:13:45] <raichoo> hey Okona[18:14:36] <raichoo> It's awefully quiet in here and #oi-dev :/[18:14:39] *** EisNerd has quit IRC[18:17:19] <Okona> not always[18:18:04] <Okona> I'd say, most of the time, people do talk quite a lot here.[18:20:53] *** EisNerd has joined #openindiana[18:21:18] *** nvez has quit IRC[18:21:51] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[18:22:01] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[18:24:48] <raichoo> Okona: I assume that some still suffer from an extented New Year's Eve hangover :3[18:24:50] <tomww> spanglywires: maybe solaris probes the net if the own IP / MAC addres sis already assigned on another machine and if the probe gets a response, solaris thinks the ip config is invalid?[18:29:03] *** nvez has quit IRC[18:29:36] *** nvez has joined #openindiana[18:31:04] *** nvez has quit IRC[18:34:58] *** girafe has joined #openindiana[18:38:18] <spanglywires> tomww: makes sense[18:39:13] <spanglywires> tomww: trouble is the BMC config utility needs some form of linux[18:40:17] <tomww> someone wrote down a workaround for a german hoster for dedicated servers, they have a neworking setup that triggers the problem[18:42:54] <tomww> only I can't find that link to the article[18:52:04] <Gibheer> how can i say mail and mailx, that all mails should be forwarded to my working smtp server? I already setup a mailhost in dns and in /etc/hosts, but it ignores the entries and tries 127.0.0.1, where no server is running[18:54:57] *** sdi has joined #openindiana[18:55:01] *** Nathan_ has joined #openindiana[18:55:27] *** Nathan_ is now known as Guest92061[18:56:28] *** keremet has joined #openindiana[18:57:05] <tomww> what does "getent hosts mailhost" return?[18:58:16] <Gibheer> 192.168.23.13 mailhost.test.lan mailhost[18:58:26] *** Ownage has quit IRC[18:58:36] <Gibheer> that's the ip of my mailserver[18:59:45] <Gibheer> if i delete the entry in /etc/hosts i get the following[18:59:52] <Gibheer> 192.168.23.13 mailp1.prod.lan mailhost.prod.lan[19:00:36] <tomww> looks good (first paste)[19:01:19] <tomww> http://www.clausconrad.com/blog/configuring-sendmail-on-solaris-10-to-use-a-smart-host[19:01:43] <tomww> this guide (not tested here) looks like doing the right thing.[19:01:56] <tomww> modifying the source files and recreate the sendmail.cf[19:02:18] <tomww> if you edit sendmail.cf directly you might end up with the next update in the default config (overwritten)[19:02:49] <tomww> the *.mc files are preserved with patch or OS updates (normally)[19:03:02] <Gibheer> okay[19:03:09] *** Whoopsie has quit IRC[19:03:24] <tsoome> read /etc/mail/cf/README ;)[19:04:09] *** EisNerd has quit IRC[19:04:50] *** EisNerd has joined #openindiana[19:05:04] <tomww> for testing you could try sendmail -bt[19:05:05] <Gibheer> the hole thing?! I'm afraid of it ;)[19:05:23] <tomww> well, that is the stable way to do it[19:05:39] <Gibheer> i try with the link first[19:06:02] *** girafe2 has joined #openindiana[19:06:16] <tomww> you define the macro, solaris follows your order[19:06:48] <Gibheer> the config seems so cryptic[19:07:08] <tomww> yes, that is from the past[19:07:35] <tomww> super-powerfull macro language. *cough*[19:08:19] *** girafe has quit IRC[19:08:40] *** johest_ has joined #openindiana[19:08:40] *** johest_ has joined #openindiana[19:08:41] <tomww> in former times you qualified as hero if you mastered sendmail macro programming (those stuff expanding to the sendmail rules, what you see on that link is only defining values as input to the macros)[19:09:15] *** Botanic has quit IRC[19:09:17] *** phsoftnet has joined #openindiana[19:09:36] <phsoftnet> hey all - the ips.homeunix.com publisher is down - any alternative way to install gstreamer-ffmpeg ?[19:09:46] <Gibheer> but that language looks like you would have to study it for years[19:09:49] *** kart_ has quit IRC[19:10:49] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[19:11:00] <tomww> Gibheer: everyone here is happy to not having to edit those macros.[19:11:04] *** Guest92061 has quit IRC[19:11:24] *** Guest92061 has joined #openindiana[19:12:39] <Gibheer> tomww: and how does the linux guys make it work? there has to be a way around this hell o.O[19:13:29] <xenol> Gibheer: they use postfix[19:13:47] <tomww> what kind of administration does a linux gui? errm guy ? :)[19:13:58] <patdk-wk> most people haven't touched sendmail.cf macro's in a decade or more[19:14:07] <patdk-wk> they have used the m4 compiler to make it[19:14:15] <tomww> yes, I myself always disable sendmail and install SFEpostfix[19:14:42] <Gibheer> and that works out of the box?[19:14:55] <patdk-wk> after you add in the sfe package depo[19:15:01] <Gibheer> i mean, everything is better than to remember what to edit[19:15:12] <Gibheer> that i have[19:15:47] <patdk-wk> the quick and dirty sendmail.cf way, is to just find the line that starts with DS, and add your relayhost after it[19:15:54] <patdk-wk> DSrelay.example.org[19:19:17] <matsim> patdk-wk: Is there a possibility to have postfix or exim in OI?[19:20:33] <patdk-wk> that was just covered[19:21:15] <herzen> postfix is in oi-sfe.[19:21:38] <matsim> aha, ok, so no need anymore to compile from SFE?[19:21:39] <tomww> hey, herzen has a scanner if the repo is named on the channel, then he gets a ring :)[19:21:59] <tomww> matsim: yes, since a while[19:22:12] <matsim> ok, I missed that, sorry[19:22:23] <tomww> for S11 there is a fresh binary repo as well, still to grow and fine-tune[19:22:44] <herzen> tomww: :)[19:23:00] <tomww> matsim: you probably shouldn't wat movies on Windo OS, use OI for it. then you can stay in this chat 24h.[19:23:23] <tomww> just guessed[19:26:10] * matsim is more regularly using Debian and less daily-work on oi, that's why I missed[19:26:36] <tomww> :)[19:27:55] *** kart_ has quit IRC[19:33:44] <Gibheer> tomww: the mistake was, that i sendmail was not started -.-[19:34:35] <tomww> ok :)[19:35:10] *** Tenzer has joined #openindiana[19:35:15] *** heldus has quit IRC[19:41:26] *** jurikm has joined #openindiana[19:42:57] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[19:42:57] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[19:47:34] *** Guest92061 has quit IRC[19:59:47] *** randw has quit IRC[20:04:55] *** gregburd has quit IRC[20:06:31] *** randw has joined #openindiana[20:07:56] *** LizardKing has quit IRC[20:17:33] *** heldus has joined #openindiana[20:23:25] *** gotwf has joined #openindiana[20:31:41] *** phsoftnet has quit IRC[20:34:41] *** disharmony has joined #openindiana[20:34:44] <disharmony> Hi[20:36:19] <Okona> hi[20:36:44] <disharmony> I reinstalled snv134 with oi151a, but it seems command's "wait" before they do anything. examples are zlogin or svcs -xv. I did a truss on svcs -xv and it seems to spend ~4 seconds on a lot of door_call()'s (somewhere to /?/volatile/svc or so).[20:37:34] <disharmony> I suspected DNS in the first place because DNS issues are known for introducing delays, but im not sure this is dns related[20:38:59] <disharmony> like ":w" in vi on a very small file (main.cf for postfix) takes 5 seconds before it starts to actually write[20:39:25] <tomww> what is in /etc/nsswitch.conf ? if that was changed, you could try first with the default one, no external name / user / group resoulutions[20:39:30] *** LizardKing has joined #openindiana[20:39:37] <tomww> nfs involved?[20:39:45] <disharmony> I used nsswitch.dns as nsswithch.conf (copied it over)[20:39:47] <disharmony> no nfs involved[20:39:54] <disharmony> it is in a zone though[20:40:02] <disharmony> lemme try it outside a zone[20:40:34] <disharmony> outside the zone (same file/filesystem), same effect[20:40:59] <disharmony> while: echo a >> main.cf is bloody fast[20:41:08] <tsoome> do pkill nscd.[20:41:12] <disharmony> it seems some command's are affected[20:41:21] *** kfritz has joined #openindiana[20:41:28] <disharmony> tsoome: pkill or svcadm disable ?[20:41:44] <Tenzer> disharmony: The echo command is not syncronous, you should probably so "echo a >> main.cf; sync" to get a better idea[20:41:50] <tsoome> svcadm restart, but it doesnt matter, pkill is fastest[20:42:21] <disharmony> ok; did that; it restarted (new pids), but still same issue[20:42:30] <tsoome> you have resolv.conf ?:P[20:43:06] <disharmony> aha I got something I think[20:43:23] <disharmony> when I copy this file to /tmp or to another pool, it is fast[20:43:35] <disharmony> when I copy it to somewhere else, but on the same pool, it is slow[20:43:42] <disharmony> I didnt upgrade my pool yet (=22)[20:43:43] *** gregburd has joined #openindiana[20:44:04] <Tenzer> Check "zpool status" or do a scrub, could sound like a bad drive[20:44:54] <disharmony> zpool is healty, and I can do a scrub; but when this machine was running snv134 I had a scrub scheduled every week so not suspecting a bad drive[20:45:02] <disharmony> I can do a zpool upgrade[20:45:14] <tomww> I meant to put back the no-dns-config nsswitch.conf and see if the delay is gone[20:46:15] <disharmony> tomww: no, delay still there[20:46:32] <disharmony> but the same file on /tmp or on another pool is fast[20:50:12] <tomww> what about contents in PATH or a dead symlink in $HOME ? (I'm away now)[20:51:07] <tomww> in the end you might try the dtrace toolkit and measure times spend in calls[20:51:08] <disharmony> PATH is just 3 dir's and $HOME is nearly empty (and no symlinks)[20:51:24] <disharmony> tomww: yeah that's probably the best way to go[21:02:16] *** Zenos has quit IRC[21:04:33] *** girafe2 has quit IRC[21:05:18] <Okona> so, switched fileserver from S11ex to OI[21:06:32] <disharmony> Hmm interesting[21:06:43] <disharmony> SYSCALL TIME (ns)[21:06:51] <disharmony> pollsys 317470686[21:06:51] <disharmony> fdsync 3927524507[21:07:20] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #openindiana[21:07:21] <disharmony> pollsys and especially fdsync are extremely high for saving a very small file with vim[21:14:53] <disharmony> Ahhh fixed it![21:15:42] <disharmony> damn, that I didn't think of that earlier... prior to the reinstall I made a backup of some data to the other pool, which almost filled the pool up; freeing up space solved the issue[21:17:43] *** spanglywires has quit IRC[21:33:39] *** bens1 has quit IRC[21:35:13] *** randw has quit IRC[21:36:52] *** johest_ has quit IRC[21:36:57] *** keremet has left #openindiana[21:40:25] *** Orii has joined #openindiana[21:43:26] *** Orii has joined #openindiana[21:54:32] *** randw has joined #openindiana[22:04:29] *** Carmivore has quit IRC[22:08:54] *** lblume has quit IRC[22:09:55] *** enmand has quit IRC[22:11:07] *** lblume has joined #openindiana[22:12:48] *** Carmivore has joined #openindiana[22:13:24] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[22:20:30] *** DocHoliday has joined #openindiana[22:31:18] *** bens1 has quit IRC[23:11:29] *** lennard has quit IRC[23:13:57] *** jurikm has quit IRC[23:15:06] *** thistle has quit IRC[23:15:30] *** thistle has joined #openindiana[23:15:49] *** johest_ has joined #openindiana[23:15:49] *** johest_ has quit IRC[23:15:49] *** johest_ has joined #openindiana[23:15:51] *** johest has quit IRC[23:23:43] *** Guest92061 has joined #openindiana[23:27:48] *** Tenzer has quit IRC[23:36:06] *** rbanffy has quit IRC[23:40:44] *** movement has joined #openindiana[23:41:01] *** gotwf has quit IRC[23:49:49] *** laogrymt__ has quit IRC[23:52:39] *** Guest92061 has quit IRC[23:53:00] *** Guest92061 has joined #openindiana