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[00:04:03] <DontKnwMuch_> cpupm disable in power.conf seems not to do anything. Do I have to reboot? svcadm disabling and then enabling, but still in powertop CPU gets frequency changed
[00:13:27] <muppetdeamon> ok everyone one last question, freenas 8.0.1 with sdd cache booting of usb or oi 151 without cache drive server has 8GB of ram
[00:14:57] <Triskelios> DontKnwMuch: pmconfig
[00:16:49] <Triskelios> muppetdeamon: if you're considering FreeNAS you might as well use NexentaStor
[00:18:03] <muppetdeamon> can nexenastor run of a usbdrive
[00:18:27] <Triskelios> yes, but probably not very well
[00:19:30] <muppetdeamon> but i thought napp-it > nexenstor
[00:20:09] <muppetdeamon> or is that not the case
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[00:20:21] <Triskelios> lol no
[00:20:41] <muppetdeamon> lol
[00:20:42] <richlowe> not that Trisk's biased...
[00:21:03] <muppetdeamon> so trisk what is your setup
[00:22:13] <muppetdeamon> what version of zfs comes with the latest nexenstor
[00:22:39] <Triskelios> pool version 28. I work at Nexenta...
[00:23:46] <muppetdeamon> can i install nexenta from a usb drive
[00:23:53] <DontKnwMuch_> ok, I read the man for pmconfig... but I still do think that my settings in power.conf do not "catch"
[00:26:09] <muppetdeamon> do you have a direct link for the download
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[00:26:36] <muppetdeamon> found it
[00:27:08] <Triskelios> muppetdeamon: don't think there are USB installer images, sorry
[00:27:39] <muppetdeamon> site seems slow to download
[00:27:49] <muppetdeamon> is there an alternative download link
[00:29:09] <muppetdeamon> ok downloading via filezilla
[00:29:44] <muppetdeamon> why nexenta over napp-it
[00:30:46] <DontKnwMuch_> napp-i is just a web-gui(?) for OI, nexenta is completely *more or less different
[00:30:47] <muppetdeamon> can i use iscsi on the community edition
[00:31:31] <muppetdeamon> yippie, found a guide to install sabnzbd on nexenta
[00:31:51] <muppetdeamon> :-)
[00:33:13] <muppetdeamon> what is nms component nmc component and nmv component
[00:34:48]
<DontKnwMuch_> https://www.illumos.org/issues/423 - this is the problem I am having, hotkernel hangs OI completely, just as described in the last post on the link, but setting cpupm enable poll-mode or cpupm disable does nothing.. even after reboot... or I am having a different problem witht he same simptoms
[00:35:14] <muppetdeamon> where do i download the plugins
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[00:43:15] <Triskelios> muppetdeamon: NMS is the management software... you only need to add plugins for some specific features (most plugins are sold commercially)
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[00:44:55] <muppetdeamon> i would be wanting to use the dd client, bonnie benchmark and iperf and ntop ones, would these be free
[00:45:05] <Triskelios> DontKnwMuch_: the lockups would suggest something more seriously wrong with these systems
[00:46:41] <Triskelios> muppetdeamon: I don't know what the "dd client" is, the others are free (and listed on the web site)
[00:46:54] <muppetdeamon> cool
[00:47:12] <muppetdeamon> so why would one install napp-it on nexenta
[00:49:38] <Triskelios> for comparison? probably not a good idea to have it messing with the system at the same time as NMS..
[00:50:52] <muppetdeamon> if i have two nexenta boxes can i do basic replication between the two or can that only be done with the enterprise edition
[00:51:17] <muppetdeamon> did not think it would be a good idea
[00:52:54] <Triskelios> community edition does replication
[00:53:04] <muppetdeamon> awesome
[00:54:12] <Triskelios> think there's still a 18T limit though
[00:54:59] <muppetdeamon> must i would have in six months wil be 12TB
[00:55:08] <muppetdeamon> 4x3TB
[00:56:19] <gea> napp-it does not run on NexentaStor but only NexentaCore
[00:57:55] <gea> it does not make sense and does not work due to Nexenta mounting pools under /volumes while all others do under /
[00:57:57] <gea> and because Nexentastore disables root account per default
[00:59:13] <muppetdeamon> can i do an apt-get update to update packages or is it not a good idea todo
[01:00:40] <gea> i have just updated my NexentaCore box with apt-get update + apt-get upgtade to the newest version from today supporting pool V 28
[01:01:13] <muppetdeamon> cool, why do you choose to use the core version
[01:01:40] <gea> Stor is comercial and i do napp-it
[01:03:41] <gea> (do not need support or the ha or other plugins)
[01:04:30] <gea> but had buyed several Nexentastor licences in the past
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[01:06:27] <muppetdeamon> so you have it on storage over 18TB
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[01:07:26] <gea> NexentaCore has no limits not in capacity and not in use (NexentaStor is storage use only)
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[01:10:18] <Triskelios> aside from the capacity limit you can use NexentaStor the same way as the core platform, as long as you're not buying support for NexentaStor
[01:12:21] <gea> only in theory. If you try to login as root you may loose support - if you know how get root premission
[01:12:23] <gea> and the repository is different, you have to select the core rep to selct some add-ons
[01:13:00] <muppetdeamon> i would be using the community edition
[01:13:34] <gea> they are identical beside support and comercial plugins
[01:13:39] <muppetdeamon> however will test core and community in vmware
[01:14:20] <gea> thay will both run fine in vmware, use ESXi
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[01:14:59] <gea> add vmware tools via apt-get vmware-tools not the ESXi included tools
[01:15:16] <muppetdeamon> ok will do
[01:20:14] <muppetdeamon> so i assume that community edition 3.0.5 is core 3.0.1
[01:21:50] <gea> NexntaStor is based on NexentaCore
[01:21:52] <gea> Sometimes Stor is newer but mostly Core is soething like a beta stage for Stor
[01:21:54] <gea> like today. I suppose its 3.1 what you get today with Core
[01:23:10] <gea> (New version available but not officially anounced, only published in nexenta.org forum by anther user)
[01:23:46] <muppetdeamon> so where do i download or can it only be apt-get update at the min
[01:24:29] <gea> download 3.01 and do a apt-get update and then a apt-clone upgrade for the newset version
[01:25:11] <Triskelios> NexentaStor is still at 3.0.5 for now, if you update NCP you get 3.1
[01:25:52] <muppetdeamon> but core i do not get same interface as with store
[01:26:03] <muppetdeamon> or can you add interface to core
[01:26:09] <gea> Core is CLI only
[01:26:21] <muppetdeamon> hence the nappit for it
[01:26:31] <gea> indeed
[01:27:10] <muppetdeamon> with regards to napp-it do you do all your user and group config through the napp-it interface
[01:27:26] <gea> yes
[01:28:01] <muppetdeamon> also with napp-it can you set group ownership for folders through the interface or must this be done via windows
[01:28:17] <muppetdeamon> zfs folders i mean
[01:28:53] <muppetdeamon> so when will 3.0.5 become 3.1
[01:30:38] <gea> with napp-it you can set basic/trivial acl
[01:30:40] <gea> komplex acl, you have to do with Windows but i'm developing a ACL extension to do it from napp-it
[01:30:56] <muppetdeamon> cool
[01:31:38] <muppetdeamon> so Triskelios says stor > napp-it, gea say napp-it > stor
[01:32:50] <gea> what do you mean with > better?
[01:32:52] <gea> they are for different use scenarois and both have features the other does not have
[01:32:59] <muppetdeamon> yes
[01:33:37] <muppetdeamon> do you have an example,
[01:35:33] <muppetdeamon> i am looking to use mine to do the following, sabnzbd (newsgroup downloader, will require this to run at boot), Windows file share and backup for client pcs, ISCSI for ESXIv5
[01:36:13] <muppetdeamon> then 6 months or now have another server to backup the one now
[01:36:30] <gea> Stor has support with SLA, suported hardware bundels by vendors, ha and VM plugins
[01:36:32] <gea> napp-it runs on more platforms, has no limits, is open to modify and open for other applications than storage
[01:37:13] <gea> your use case may be possible with both
[01:38:30] <muppetdeamon> i assume both will provide info on disk failures via the gui
[01:38:47] <gea> yes and per mail
[01:40:35] <muppetdeamon> so for my usage both will be good enoguh
[01:40:55] <gea> its yours to try
[01:41:08] <muppetdeamon> i will test both
[01:43:46] <gea> Store CE is ready to use after registration
[01:43:48] <gea> with Core you need to install napp-it and setup the appliance after installation of Core via wget -O - www.napp-it.org/mappit | perl
[01:43:51] <gea> and optionally amp and AFF if you have macs with the amp and afp installer
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[01:45:33] <gea> (afp installer from today support OSX Lion)
[01:49:04] <muppetdeamon> just the kernel is solaris
[01:49:24] <muppetdeamon> so in vmware i would need to use colaris template
[01:49:30] <dkeav> gea: btw, thank you for napp-it
[01:49:57] <gea> thanks also
[01:50:41] <gea> yes you need to select Solaris 10 64bit in VMware
[01:51:31] <gea> do not iuse more than 2 vcpu
[01:54:09] <gea> and use e 1000 vnic
[01:54:11] <gea> the new vmware vmxnet3 virtual network driver is not yet supported in Nexenta
[02:01:04] <muppetdeamon> on a server could would it be advisable to usbstick for logs
[02:01:14] <muppetdeamon> on server hardware
[02:01:44] <dkeav> no
[02:01:51] <gea> on new ssd liks usb3 sticks, yes otherwise no
[02:02:38] <dkeav> and i assume you meant intent logs, not system logging
[02:02:47] <dkeav> in either case i would probably say no
[02:03:34] <gea> if you mean zil or arc (read or write cache SSD) definitly no
[02:06:46] <gea> ok 2 am, time for bed..
[02:07:27] <dkeav> night
[02:08:22] <muppetdeamon> good night, thanks for the help
[02:08:30] <muppetdeamon> got them both installed now
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[02:28:51] <brandini> listening to the Illumos Meetup right now
[02:28:53] <brandini> pretty interesting
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[03:05:15] <dkeav> cliff notes?
[03:05:34] <brandini> not really
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[03:21:28] <brandini> wow, no sun4u in solaris 11
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[03:24:01] <alanc> except for M-series
[03:24:10] <brandini> oh right
[03:24:32] * brandini takes a serious look at illumos and illumos-live
[03:25:04] <alanc> look and see how few people care about hardware that old, since I still don't think either has been built on sparc
[03:25:41] <alanc> really, anyone who thought they could run the 2011 OS release on their 1998 Ultra 10 was delusional
[03:27:14] <alanc> the people with 2007 Sun Fires may be a little more surprised
[03:27:25] <brandini> t1000's too right?
[03:27:37] <alanc> T-series are sun4v, not sun4u
[03:27:47] <alanc> not affected at all by the EOF
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[03:28:51] <brandini> I've been seeing them pop up on ebay for cheap!
[03:29:43] <brandini> so my e450 is EOL?!?!?! :)
[03:30:42] <alanc> it will happily run Solaris 10, or even S11 Express, until it can no longer spin up any of its fans
[03:31:11] <dkeav> heh
[03:31:18] * dkeav pets his ultra80
[03:31:34] <alanc> if that day is years away, your hearing may be perrmenantely damaged if you spent too much time near said array of fans
[03:31:47] <brandini> what???
[03:31:53] <dkeav> huh?
[03:32:14] <dkeav> i wore ear plugs when i worked in a DC
[03:32:27] <dkeav> the hum was just too deafening
[03:32:34] * alanc had an E250 at home for a couple years - could totally tell when it was turned off from the huge noise decrease in the apartment
[03:33:09] <alanc> actually, I still have an E250 at home, it's just served as an end table for the last 7 or 8 years instead of a computer
[03:33:16] <brandini> :)
[03:33:37] <brandini> After watching these illumos meetup videos I'm getting really interested
[03:33:59] <ianj> whatwere the highlights?
[03:34:14] <dkeav> alanc: hah yea, i have several old sun boxes at home that are sitting in the garage sleeping, waiting for orders
[03:34:23] <ianj> alanc: I have an E420R running mostly as a package server. it is pretty okay although pkg commands take a while to run.
[03:34:45] <brandini> ianj: it's the group of folks who are involved, their ambition, their view on stuff
[03:34:59] <ianj> a 250 though... those are tough.
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[03:45:46] <markj> nexenta can it be installed from usb? if not indiana 151 or freebsd
[03:45:52] <markj> freenas
[03:49:30] <dkeav> freebsd/freenas can be for sure
[03:49:42] <dkeav> i think oi can be, dunno about nexenta
[03:49:59] <dkeav> yes oi can be, duurr thats how i installed it on a microserver
[03:50:33] <markj> i have a microserver with 4x1TB 16GB ssd
[03:51:13] <markj> freenas would have ssd has cache oi would have ssd as os drive
[03:51:27] <markj> how do you install gcc4 on oi
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[04:05:44] <herzen> hm, he left 2 minutes after asking. some people are just not very patient
[04:06:01] <dkeav> but its my money, and i want it now
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[06:16:19] <Hexi2> I have a 3TB drive, I partitioned 100GB of it as a Solaris2 partition and installed to that as my zfs rpool, how can I now use the rest of the drive for a new zfs pool?
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[06:16:59] <Hexi2> in format, I can fdisk a 2nd partition to it, but it seems only one can be active at a time
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[08:41:21] <nettezzaumana> servus
[08:41:48] <nettezzaumana> is useful to report or even fix things in zfs for linux ?
[08:45:25] <lennard> I don't see why not?
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[08:51:53] <Botanic> if like RHEL picked up ZFS it would take off like a freight train
[08:52:18] <Botanic> rather then there crappy software raid they have atm :)
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[08:53:09] <lennard> mdraid isnt all that crappy
[08:53:15] <lennard> its no zfs, of course :P
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[12:29:28] <DontKnwMuch> how can I see current network traffic in mb/s ? kstat -p does show some stuff....is there a nicstat pck?
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[12:49:34] <nettezzaumana> DontKnwMuch: read netstat manual ;)
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[12:53:25] <nettezzaumana> also dladm should do so
[12:54:31] <tsoome> dlstat
[12:55:08] <nettezzaumana> tsoome: don't know, don't have .. is it in oi base ?
[12:55:31] <DontKnwMuch> oh.. :) dlstat is nice !
[12:55:57] <nettezzaumana> can i get it for s10 ?
[12:56:06] <scarcry> no manpage yet unfort
[12:56:34] <tsoome> nettezzaumana: ofc not;)
[12:57:54] <scarcry> seems dlstat can't output in bits/s (oi_151)
[12:58:49] <nettezzaumana> tsoome: ^^ about `is it in oi base' :? `can i get it for s10'
[12:58:52] <nettezzaumana> :)
[12:59:25] <tsoome> can't tell about oi, i have s11
[12:59:40] <nettezzaumana> so it is in s11 tsoome .. so i can get it for s10
[12:59:42] <nettezzaumana> good
[13:00:07] <tsoome> you also can't get zfs for s9
[13:00:25] <nettezzaumana> this should work
[13:01:02] <nettezzaumana> tsoome: i belive that some home hobbyist could achieve that for s9 ;)
[13:01:13] <nettezzaumana> only what you need is s10 kernel
[13:01:27] <nettezzaumana> s/s10/s10+/
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[13:02:03] <nettezzaumana> i'm achieveing at the moment zfs root for my linux distro
[13:02:13] <nettezzaumana> ain't so hard
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[13:06:49] <DontKnwMuch> High CPU usage in kernel, dtrace for kernel locks the sistem (which is very bad to be mild), but the cpupm disable or cpupm enable poll-mode in power.conf does not fix it..
[13:07:12] <DontKnwMuch> I think (since my powertop still shows cpufreq being changed) that the cpupm didnt "catch", does anyone have any idea what can I do?
[13:07:27] <nettezzaumana> DontKnwMuch: i thought that in english is quite straightforward using y/i :P
[13:07:37] <nettezzaumana> but not for you apparently
[13:07:54] <nettezzaumana> simptoms .. sistem
[13:09:56] <nettezzaumana> in czech it depends and it's hard to understand when in one word and its declensions is used y Vs i but this .. hehe
[13:11:03] <DontKnwMuch> this was helpfull
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[13:32:09] <gaYak> DontKnwMuch: Was there a bug ticket for the VMware CPU usage?
[13:37:12] <DontKnwMuch> no, I am not in vmware, I am now bare metal, to avoid high CPU usage...
[13:37:35] <gaYak> Ack.. for me it's just a datastore for VMs ..
[13:38:38] <DontKnwMuch> the same here, but I dumped vmware
[13:39:01] <gaYak> Yea, I dumped VMware for the new machines as well, but I don't really want to reinstall the old VMs.. people keep complaining too much.
[13:41:32] <gaYak> ..unless of course I'd make the OI run the VMs.. mm
[13:41:37] <gaYak> (never done that though..)
[13:42:40] <gaYak> One question.. why is the build on openindiana.org still 148 while there's 151 also..?
[13:42:45] <gaYak> (but it's not mentioned in the front page)
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[13:45:13] <DontKnwMuch> its not finished I beleive
[13:45:37] <DontKnwMuch> but it will bee in 2-4 weeks or so
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[14:49:40] <nettezzaumana> EisNerd: ping .. report after 24 hours: massive oops, kernel hangups, access to zfs segfaults
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[16:12:52] <Hexi2> question about large drives...
[16:12:58] <Hexi2> I have a 3TB drive, I partitioned 100GB of it as a Solaris2 partition and installed to that as my zfs rpool, how can I now use the rest of the drive for a new zfs pool?
[16:13:04] <Hexi2> in format, I can fdisk a 2nd partition to it, but it seems only one can be active at a time
[16:21:55] <Woodstock> iirc it is unsupported to have two pools on one disk
[16:23:22] <Woodstock> you could try to create the pool on the raw 2nd fdisk partition, without another solaris vtoc in it, but don't be surprised if it breaks in interesting ways. if it works at all.
[16:24:13] <Hexi2> hmm yet a bootdisk larger than 2TB is also unsupported
[16:24:26] <Hexi2> maybe I'll just have to make the first partition 2TB and waste 1TB
[16:25:32] <Woodstock> use a smaller boot disk, and make that 3tb monster a data pool :)
[16:25:46] <Hexi2> well, I guess even better is I should order 2 smaller disks to boot from and use these large ones as second disks
[16:25:53] <Hexi2> yeah =)
[16:26:03] <Hexi2> that makes more sense
[16:26:05] <Hexi2> thanks =)
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[17:28:43] <xdnny> is anybody using openindiana as a virtual server from some external provider?
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[20:02:04] <cfs> has anyone attempted getting a Silicon Image 3531 driver working using the existing si3124 driver?
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[22:29:01] <nahamu> if I have a dd image of an old OI installation, is there a way to mount it and get at the contents?
[22:33:34] <Woodstock> you could try to use lofi
[22:34:00] <Woodstock> lofiadm -a file.img
[22:34:07] <Woodstock> zpool import -d /dev/lofi
[22:34:08] <Woodstock> ...
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[22:42:30] <nahamu> I know how to use lofiadm, but since it has a partition table, that doesn't seem to work
[22:42:46] <nahamu> sorry, took a phone call.
[22:43:08] <nahamu> Woodstock: it doesn't see the pool, and I think it's because of the partition table.
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[22:48:31] <nahamu> I guess I should have dd'd the partition, not the whole disk
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[23:26:35] <DontKnwMuch_> if I run any dtrace (hotkernel for example) the system stops responding even to pings. I think it some incompatibily with the bios settings or something like that
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[23:39:02] <Triskelios> DontKnwMuch_: #illumos is a better place to ask, btw
[23:43:55] <DontKnwMuch_> oh, thanks, I will try there, but since I am not using illumos, I was asking here
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[23:44:41] <Triskelios> DontKnwMuch_: illumos is where the problem has to be fixed
[23:46:19] <DontKnwMuch_> oh.. ok.
[23:48:33] <spanglywires> Triskelios: don't know if you've just been talking about the same thing as just joined, but I see you're down as the mentor for a GSoC'er for OI SPARC - any luck in getting someone?
[23:51:24] <Triskelios> not yet, although a few people have done some work in that direction
[23:51:53] <richlowe> If it's GSoC, shouldn't there be status reports and such?
[23:52:20] <alanc> GSoC just passed midterms, which should have had a report & evaluation
[23:52:40] <richlowe> still think the hard bit with sparc is the amount of CPU time involved.
[23:53:04] <spanglywires> agreed, takes way too long to build on my v210 :D
[23:53:08] <richlowe> excluding the paucity of them actually worth owning or caring about.
[23:53:15] <Triskelios> nobody is doing any SPARC work for GSoC
[23:53:28] <alanc> but that only applies to the 2 GSoC student projects that were accepted months ago, which look like they were Grub2 and de-perlification
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[23:53:59] <spanglywires> I know Meths got a fair way, but sfw stumped him for oi-150
[23:56:49] <Meths> 148b and it was JDS. JDS is needed for an illumos dep when you're on perl510
[23:57:21] <Meths> SFW builds you just need to sort out importing/publishing.
[23:58:04] <spanglywires> its starting to look like an Ultrasparc isn't going to be running anything much these days :(
[23:59:40] <spanglywires> i presume the problem with ids is the closed X drivers?
[23:59:45] <spanglywires> jds even