July 17, 2011 
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July 17, 2011 [00:03:01] *** ThomasB2k has joined #openindiana[00:07:56] <tsoome> baitisj: how much ram you got?:P[00:08:48] *** mnaser has joined #openindiana[00:21:26] *** Hedonista has joined #openindiana[00:31:28] *** Hedonista has quit IRC[00:36:32] *** mnaser has quit IRC[00:48:17] *** mmgen has quit IRC[00:51:01] *** Hedonista has joined #openindiana[00:55:15] *** matteof has left #openindiana[01:12:57] *** hsp has quit IRC[01:17:16] *** dumbo88 has joined #openindiana[01:29:12] *** phretor has joined #openindiana[01:35:31] *** jarray52 has left #openindiana[01:52:25] <baitisj> tsoome, I have 4095 megabytes[01:53:53] <baitisj> tomww, all links in /var/run/opengl point to /usr/X11/../NVIDIA/..[01:54:34] *** phretor has quit IRC[01:56:23] <baitisj> tomww, do you suggesting upgrading nvidia driver package from nvidia's website to 275.19 (current)?[01:56:29] *** phretor has joined #openindiana[01:57:31] <baitisj> pkginfo -x indicates that I have NVDAgraphics 256.44,REV=2010.08.03.22.25[02:01:16] <baitisj> it appears that pkgrm cannot uninstall the existing NVDAgraphics package because it lacks the directory /var/sadm/pkg/NVDAgraphics/install ... time to do some wiki-thumping[02:03:09] <baitisj> drat. bitten by pkg vs pkgrm again! Should have pkg uninstall.[02:07:34] *** winIO has quit IRC[02:09:02] <baitisj> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.openindiana.general/3916 was helpful, in case anyone cares.[02:09:08] *** winIO has joined #openindiana[02:09:08] <baitisj> time to reboot~[02:09:15] *** baitisj has quit IRC[02:12:36] *** dumbo88 has left #openindiana[02:14:41] *** baitisj has joined #openindiana[02:14:44] *** phretor_ has joined #openindiana[02:14:48] <baitisj> Success![02:15:01] <baitisj> beadm is very nifty.[02:15:54] <baitisj> it would be so nice if ips could handle legacy packages. I would confuse myself so much less.[02:16:07] <baitisj> by legacy, i mean svrv4[02:17:18] *** baitisj has quit IRC[02:17:28] *** raichoo has quit IRC[02:17:29] *** phretor has quit IRC[02:18:22] *** winIO has quit IRC[02:18:37] *** phretor_ has quit IRC[02:19:38] *** baitisj has joined #openindiana[02:20:02] *** winIO has joined #openindiana[02:20:19] <baitisj> So, here's a bug. I have TwinView enabled. If I drag a glxgears window from one monitor to another, my X server locks up.[02:25:34] *** winIO has quit IRC[02:26:01] *** winIO has joined #openindiana[02:29:48] *** winIO has quit IRC[02:30:30] *** baitisj has quit IRC[02:33:44] *** baitisj has joined #openindiana[02:34:03] <baitisj> twinview + glx = not happy[02:42:06] *** laen_ has quit IRC[02:55:03] *** hjf has joined #openindiana[02:55:17] *** hjf has quit IRC[02:55:22] *** hjf has joined #openindiana[03:06:41] *** pjama has quit IRC[03:12:09] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[03:13:59] *** master_of_master has joined #openindiana[03:17:32] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[03:37:39] *** davenz has joined #openindiana[04:05:21] *** ivwang_ipad has joined #openindiana[04:14:19] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[04:15:43] *** kdavy__ has quit IRC[04:18:36] *** kdavy__ has joined #openindiana[04:26:09] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[04:39:43] *** ivwang_ipad has quit IRC[04:44:42] *** chototsu has quit IRC[04:55:14] *** chototsu has joined #openindiana[04:55:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v chototsu[04:56:26] *** davenz has left #openindiana[05:01:55] *** darkscrypt has quit IRC[05:14:27] *** skeeziks has joined #openindiana[05:17:17] *** darkscrypt has joined #openindiana[05:34:42] *** darkscrypt has quit IRC[05:43:59] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[05:57:25] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[06:06:44] *** skeeziks has quit IRC[06:10:33] *** redgone has quit IRC[06:12:03] *** heldchen has joined #openindiana[06:12:48] *** held has quit IRC[06:14:09] *** held has joined #openindiana[06:16:17] *** heldchen has quit IRC[06:49:58] *** pjama has joined #openindiana[07:13:05] *** elgar has quit IRC[07:25:42] *** tsukasa has quit IRC[07:36:34] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[07:37:52] *** tsukasa has joined #openindiana[07:48:49] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[08:22:32] *** Shadow__X has quit IRC[08:53:30] *** freedomrun has joined #openindiana[08:54:37] *** gerard13 has joined #openindiana[08:56:45] *** ThomasB2k has quit IRC[09:24:36] *** ivwang_ipad has joined #openindiana[09:38:36] *** freedomrun has quit IRC[09:45:07] *** ivwang_ipad has quit IRC[09:48:42] *** gerard13 has quit IRC[09:55:43] *** dekar has quit IRC[09:56:25] *** gerard13 has joined #openindiana[10:03:58] *** kdavy__ has quit IRC[10:15:32] *** skeeziks has joined #openindiana[10:16:01] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[10:19:38] *** McBofh has quit IRC[10:19:39] *** c00p has quit IRC[10:21:01] *** McBofh has joined #openindiana[10:22:32] *** laserbled has joined #openindiana[10:23:37] *** laserbled has quit IRC[10:24:00] *** laserbled has joined #openindiana[10:24:12] *** yonij has joined #openindiana[10:29:20] *** Loto has quit IRC[10:46:04] <tomww> baitisj: I use 275.09 currently (but it's a much older OS version)[10:46:49] *** nikolam has quit IRC[10:49:28] *** Loafamotive has quit IRC[10:51:02] <tomww> btw, that compiz stuff is all switched off here.[10:54:52] *** Loafamotive has joined #openindiana[11:00:48] *** hsp has joined #openindiana[11:01:27] *** skeeziks has quit IRC[11:08:34] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[11:44:11] *** yonij has quit IRC[11:44:11] *** laserbled has quit IRC[11:44:42] <pjama> anyone know if Opensolaris bugs are being addressed in illumos/oi ?This particular one is annoying (in oi-dev-151)[11:44:44] <pjama> https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?format=multiple&id=17408[11:45:35] *** bgeek has quit IRC[11:45:40] *** bgeek has joined #openindiana[11:45:40] *** bgeek has joined #openindiana[11:45:47] <dkeav> o.0[11:45:49] <dkeav> really[11:45:55] <dkeav> ?[11:48:18] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[11:52:01] *** winIO has joined #openindiana[12:03:10] *** merzo has joined #openindiana[12:05:04] *** merzo has quit IRC[12:05:27] *** merzo has joined #openindiana[12:14:41] *** lblume has quit IRC[12:16:27] *** lblume has joined #openindiana[12:55:57] *** edogawaconan has quit IRC[13:01:31] *** edogawaconan has joined #openindiana[13:12:14] *** lblume has quit IRC[13:21:33] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[13:31:20] *** Loafamotive has quit IRC[13:32:17] *** Loafamotive has joined #openindiana[13:54:24] *** flyz has joined #openindiana[14:24:03] *** bens1 has quit IRC[14:30:03] *** tnorgaard has joined #openindiana[14:32:34] <tnorgaard> Hi, if my ipnat -l has a working entry (on external interface), my routeadm shows forwarding and routing is enabled, and I've cleared all rules from ipf.conf - what is blocking the packages from my zone to reaching the external network? (I can see the packets on the vnic connected to the etherstub on the global zone, but not on the external interface)?[14:34:43] <tomww> it looks like you would have to share a litte bit more details[14:35:45] <tomww> we normalls just define vnics, assign them to non-global zones and then the zone reaches the local lan[14:36:19] <tomww> what is your ipnat for?[14:37:01] <tomww> do you have a separate router to rech the net, pr is the global zone directly connected to the outer internet?[14:41:54] *** Botanic has quit IRC[15:02:32] *** echobinary1 has joined #openindiana[15:03:49] *** echobinary has quit IRC[15:06:59] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[15:07:28] <raichoo> hi folks[15:13:57] *** ivwang has joined #openindiana[15:15:39] <tnorgaard> tomww: Sorry, got called into a meeting. The NAT is because the server is a complete setup of the infrastructure with loadbalancer (ILB), 2x app servers, 2x static servers and PostgreSQL. The point of the NAT is to help the app servers and static servers to make DNS lookups and download software, etc.[15:16:48] <tnorgaard> (http traffic) ---> global zone: ILB --> [vnic-etherstub-vnic]---> app-zone0[15:19:45] *** syoyo_ has joined #openindiana[15:20:32] <tnorgaard> The idea is, as the site grows we can replace the zones and etherstub with real hardware gratefully, without affecting service uptime.[15:22:27] <tnorgaard> But I guess I could use ILB (integrated load balancer) with DSR topologic and get around the NAT issue[15:27:53] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[15:34:53] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[15:38:17] *** McBofh has quit IRC[15:46:23] *** syoyo_ has quit IRC[15:46:41] *** merzo has quit IRC[15:49:58] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[15:50:31] *** syoyo_ has joined #openindiana[15:50:43] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[16:00:37] *** winIO has quit IRC[16:01:18] *** echobinary has joined #openindiana[16:01:50] *** echobinary1 has quit IRC[16:16:35] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[16:23:32] *** joes_ has quit IRC[16:28:46] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[16:30:45] *** merzo has joined #openindiana[16:53:05] *** raichoo has quit IRC[17:08:02] *** Worsoe has joined #openindiana[17:09:51] *** ivwang has quit IRC[17:21:34] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[17:22:21] *** phretor has joined #openindiana[17:22:27] <phretor> I got disconnected (my last message was "I can't really find a SATA-only PCIe x1 card that is supported by OI")a[17:27:47] *** miine has quit IRC[17:28:55] <tomww> tnorgaard: I use "pound" for http redirection to various zones with ether public IP addresses or local ones.[17:29:50] <tomww> but the zones could easily get public addresses, so nat is not neccessary then?[17:32:17] <tnorgaard> Well the choice of load balancer is not the question (i like ilb because it's in the kernel, so fewer context switches).. It just bugs my that the NAT doesn't work - I've have another setup where it works flawless, and can't seems to find the missing point between the two configs[17:32:58] *** phretor has quit IRC[17:33:02] <tnorgaard> And I only need Layer 4 load balancing[17:33:19] <tomww> /etc/netmasks differ between those setups?[17:33:45] <tnorgaard> Both are /24[17:34:22] *** miine has joined #openindiana[17:36:37] <tomww> hm. if you compare "netstat -nvar" in the interesting rows, and ifconfig -a in flags and netmaks?[17:39:02] *** phretor has joined #openindiana[17:39:16] <tnorgaard> I think you are right, seems logical if was a overriding netmask.. Just haven't spotted the error yet[17:53:58] * phretor is about to give up with this non-RAID PCIe-to-SATA card that is actually very RAID http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=521008񿌰[18:01:30] <Hedonista> phretor, i dont know that card but i use the Sil 3124, and the first time i tried to install with that card in i had to add one disk at a time[18:02:54] <phretor> Hedonista: but, do you even see the card? cfgadm -la | grep sata only shows up the 4-on-mobo ports. The issue is that I can't figure out how to put the card in Non-RAID (i.e., pure AHCI) mode[18:03:05] <phretor> BTW, which card do you have?/[18:04:33] <Hedonista> Silicon Image SiI 3124 PCI-X Serial ATA Controller[18:05:12] <Hedonista> yes i can see the disks with cfgadm -la | grep sata[18:05:29] <phretor> Hedonista: do you by any chance have a URL pointing exactly to the card you bought?[18:05:57] *** saablover has joined #openindiana[18:06:03] <Hedonista> let me look it up for you ok[18:08:09] <phretor> thanks Hedonista[18:08:21] *** tnorgaard has quit IRC[18:13:32] <Hedonista> http://www.amazon.com/SD-SATA2-4IR-Internal-Controller-SIL3124-Chipset/dp/B001IHYLTK[18:13:43] <Hedonista> i beleive thats the card i got[18:14:22] *** ivo_ has joined #openindiana[18:22:53] *** saablover has quit IRC[18:29:58] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[18:39:15] <phretor> thanks Hedonista[18:39:50] <phretor> Hedonista: so it's RAID indeed, but you use it as pure AHCI?[18:40:27] <Hedonista> it is not configured as a raid[18:40:39] <Hedonista> i let zfs do that[18:42:41] <Hedonista> phretor, do you get a bois message to press a key to configure the card?[18:44:05] <Hedonista> phretor, before i could get the cards to work i had to press that key whatever it was and then i just exited w/o making a raid[18:46:42] <Hedonista> phretor, just a disclaimer here , i am an old ex-truckdriver not an IT professional![18:50:47] *** Worsoe has joined #openindiana[18:51:21] *** Worsoe2 has joined #openindiana[18:55:02] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[18:56:14] *** Worsoe2 has quit IRC[18:56:34] *** Worsoe has joined #openindiana[18:58:27] *** phretor has quit IRC[18:59:16] *** ivo_ has quit IRC[19:02:02] *** phretor has joined #openindiana[19:15:22] <jaimef> "Unable to clone the current boot environment" when installing updates[19:17:16] <jaimef> Ahh. get_mountpoint_from_vfstab: failed to open vfstab (/export/zones/zone1/root/etc/vfstab)[19:18:35] *** syoyo_ has quit IRC[19:19:37] *** mnaser has joined #openindiana[19:38:15] *** movement has quit IRC[19:46:45] *** baitisj has quit IRC[19:48:04] *** baitisj has joined #openindiana[19:50:44] *** movement has joined #openindiana[19:51:28] <baitisj> freaking x11 crashed again[19:51:38] <baitisj> i guess i'll turn "on" compiz and see if that helps.[19:51:58] *** baitisj has quit IRC[19:53:07] *** baitisj has joined #openindiana[19:53:31] <baitisj> still crashes immediately when i do my glxgears window drag test.[19:55:35] <baitisj> oddly enough, compiz seems fairly OK though[19:56:32] *** smrt has quit IRC[19:56:51] *** smrt has joined #openindiana[20:13:08] *** flyz has quit IRC[20:22:12] *** smrt has quit IRC[20:22:18] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[20:22:30] *** smrt has joined #openindiana[20:22:30] *** phretor_ has joined #openindiana[20:23:52] *** Worsoe has joined #openindiana[20:25:23] *** phretor has quit IRC[20:26:02] * baitisj submitted Bug #1225 "Dragging glxgears window from monitor to monitor in TwinView causes X server lock-up"[20:30:29] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[20:37:30] *** Worsoe2 has joined #openindiana[20:39:29] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[20:41:51] <baitisj> does anyone know where I can find the nvidia "280." stable driver series?[20:41:58] <baitisj> I don't see it on nvidia's website[20:45:16] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[20:49:11] *** DrLou has joined #openindiana[20:49:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrLou[20:51:29] *** Worsoe2 has quit IRC[20:57:50] *** phretor_ has quit IRC[20:58:41] *** jkimball4 has quit IRC[20:59:35] *** bens1 has quit IRC[20:59:45] *** phretor has joined #openindiana[20:59:50] *** jkimball4 has joined #openindiana[21:02:47] *** Worsoe has joined #openindiana[21:07:23] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[21:10:27] *** Worsoe has joined #openindiana[21:11:51] *** Worsoe2 has joined #openindiana[21:13:54] *** Worsoe2 has quit IRC[21:14:13] *** Worsoe2 has joined #openindiana[21:14:13] *** Worsoe2 has quit IRC[21:14:58] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[21:17:28] <brandini> latest news may 26, "finishing touches on the next build"[21:17:37] <brandini> that's a lot of touches![21:19:03] <bdha> https://www.illumos.org/projects/openindiana/issues # Have you considered closing some oi_151 bugs?[21:21:25] <brandini> Just surprised[21:26:52] *** phretor_ has joined #openindiana[21:29:14] *** phretor has quit IRC[21:30:37] *** synegy34 has joined #openindiana[21:37:31] *** mnaser has quit IRC[21:38:59] *** ThomasB2k has joined #openindiana[21:46:03] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[21:47:22] <DontKnwMuch> Hi, I have a nic unplumbed, but it still lits the switch port, how can I completely disable a nic without phisically unplugging the cable?[21:47:52] <tsoome> modunload module might do it[21:48:18] <Wraithh> DontKnwMuch, or unconfigure the port on the switch if it's a managed one[21:48:36] <tsoome> and it wont do if you have multiple nics of same type[21:49:17] <DontKnwMuch> tsoome: I just thought to say that both are the same type, therefore modunload will kill them both ...[21:49:37] <tsoome> you cant modunload if another instance is in use[21:49:53] <tsoome> why its bothering you anyhow?[21:50:11] <tsoome> disable switch port wont do?[21:50:25] <DontKnwMuch> I am trying to do aggreation and in the switch manual it is a note saying that if I want to avoid loops I have to disconnect before making an aggregation...[21:50:57] <DontKnwMuch> an since I am remote, I can not unplug the damn cable.. (100km...)[21:51:08] <tsoome> disable switch port then[21:51:15] <Wraithh> if it's unplumbed I guess won't forward any traffic so should be enough then[21:51:16] <tsoome> that will do the same i think...[21:52:46] <DontKnwMuch> I will try that, hopefully I will be ok... I am just terrified of these network loops[21:55:58] *** mnaser has joined #openindiana[21:56:33] *** nikolam has joined #openindiana[21:57:19] *** phretor has joined #openindiana[21:57:30] *** raichoo has quit IRC[21:57:58] *** phretor_ has quit IRC[21:58:04] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[22:01:27] *** Norrin has quit IRC[22:02:27] *** Norrin has joined #openindiana[22:12:22] *** flyz has joined #openindiana[22:12:54] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[22:17:59] <brandini> for some weird reason pfexec won't let me do anything anymore![22:18:36] <brandini> pfexec zpool scrub storepool --> Permission Denied![22:19:05] <brandini> is there a 148b out now?[22:21:05] <raichoo> brandini: how are your usersettings in /etc/user_attr?[22:21:22] <raichoo> Do you have the appropriate setting?[22:21:31] <raichoo> profile that is.[22:21:47] *** kimc has quit IRC[22:21:53] <brandini> I did at one time :)[22:21:56] * brandini looks again[22:22:30] <brandini> I have Software Installation and root[22:22:31] <brandini> hrmmm[22:23:06] <brandini> sounds right doesn't it raichoo[22:23:11] <raichoo> If you want the full monty you need "Primary Administrator"[22:23:21] <raichoo> As a profile.[22:23:42] <raichoo> Something like brandini::::type=normal;profiles=Primary Administrator;roles=root[22:25:10] <brandini> that's right, wonder when/why that got changed[22:25:24] <raichoo> I have no idea ^^[22:25:31] <brandini> :)[22:25:54] *** Maylow has joined #openindiana[22:26:40] <brandini> now to build go on it[22:27:37] <raichoo> huh?[22:28:22] <brandini> golang[22:28:28] *** McBofh has joined #openindiana[22:28:37] <raichoo> ah ok. ^^[22:29:20] <raichoo> I found Go quite interesting when it first came out but after playing around with it some more I didn't really like it.[22:30:14] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[22:31:31] <raichoo> brandini: Does it even compile on solaris based operating systems?[22:31:40] <brandini> dunno, that's what I aim to find out![22:31:59] <raichoo> Good luck.[22:32:29] <brandini> what did you like about it, and also, what didn't you like about it?[22:33:52] <raichoo> brandini: It does not give me enough control for a low-level programming language and not enough abstraction for a high level one. It's somewhere inbetween and I have no use for something like that. The syntax is also quite weird.[22:34:03] <brandini> :)[22:34:14] <brandini> I understand what you're saying[22:34:57] <raichoo> If I want to do low level C is pretty close to what actually happens on the machine. If I want more abstraction I reach for scala and haskell :)[22:35:18] <brandini> if you want performance and a code comprimise you use go :)[22:35:35] <brandini> for fun things like threading[22:36:32] <raichoo> I can do the same with haskell ;) Which is also quite fast. I didn't find go particular fast to begin with.[22:36:52] <brandini> really?[22:36:55] <brandini> interesting[22:37:15] <brandini> how long ago did you use it?[22:38:22] <raichoo> I didn't use it that long since a collegue at work decided to dig deeper into it, when I already lost interest. He did it for a few months even checking out the internals, he came to the same conclusion.[22:39:01] <brandini> fair enough[22:39:33] <brandini> but what time period was this? aka 2009, late 2010?[22:40:11] *** Maylow has quit IRC[22:40:51] <raichoo> brandini: I started on the day it first came out. My collegue used it until recently. He now checks out clojure which seems to scratch an itch.[22:41:08] <flyz> hi. I'm getting a 'Bad PBR sig' error while booting my machine. the most recent thing I've done was rebooting with "Skip boot entry on startup" checked. I guess, my MBR is somewhat broken. how can i recover or reset it?[22:43:54] *** nikolam has quit IRC[22:45:18] <raichoo> brandini: Here is a little benchmark. Go vs. Scala http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=go&lang2=scala I don't give a lot about benchmarks but sometimes they provide rough landmarks that put things into perspective.[22:47:02] <brandini> I've read through that, from what I've gathered from the devs is that the code used in those benchmarks is not optimized and can be made to really outperform scala[22:47:33] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[22:48:12] <raichoo> brandini: They are free to provide better code for that ;)[22:48:47] <brandini> :)[22:51:31] *** sponix has joined #openindiana[22:52:25] *** c00p has joined #openindiana[22:56:18] *** redgone has joined #openindiana[23:01:11] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[23:04:32] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[23:06:51] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[23:08:24] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[23:13:00] *** Worsoe has joined #openindiana[23:13:02] *** bens1 has quit IRC[23:29:45] *** sponix has quit IRC[23:32:49] *** mnaser has quit IRC[23:35:13] *** pothos_ has joined #openindiana[23:36:15] *** pothos has quit IRC[23:36:43] *** pothos_ is now known as pothos[23:45:43] *** buffyg has quit IRC