July 15, 2011 
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July 15, 2011 [00:02:41] <[jason]> power cycle the system[00:02:48] <[jason]> watch the system as boots up[00:03:01] <[jason]> it likely prompts you to press some button to enter the disk configuration utility[00:03:08] <[jason]> go into there and set ports up for jbod[00:03:55] <[jason]> the operates with raid[0,1,10,jbod] modes. you need to configure it for jbod mode[00:04:24] <[jason]> i have never seen the thing, so i cant tell you specifically what to do[00:05:12] *** sdward has quit IRC[00:09:13] *** gea_ has joined #openindiana[00:09:47] <phretor> [jason]: I understand. However, besides the BIOS, I don't think there is any option-setting menu for PCIe-connected drives.[00:10:15] <[jason]> most cards present one while booting[00:10:53] <[jason]> check the documentation. some times it can be made silent and y ou'll need magic key presses to get into it[00:14:48] <dkeav> or a jumper on the card[00:15:11] <dkeav> though i havn't seen that often and don't remember the brand of that controller[00:15:25] <[jason]> that is very 80's[00:15:34] <dkeav> why i remembered it[00:15:52] <dkeav> definatly got a "wtf"[00:16:45] <phretor> could it be boot Pxe?[00:16:56] <phretor> i need to check for bios extensions[00:18:35] <[jason]> no, not boot pxe[00:19:13] <[jason]> pxe boot is where little fairies come down sprinkle dust on your ethernet adapter and make it boot over the network[00:19:21] <phretor> jasonmiu: i'm exploring the whole bios[00:20:05] <phretor> that was for [jason][00:21:36] <phretor> good, it's C-J :)[00:22:15] <phretor> [jason]: both disks are in non-RAID mode[00:22:48] <[jason]> okay, that might not be definitive enough[00:23:00] <[jason]> what are the possible modes?[00:23:06] <[jason]> as dispalyed by the bios?[00:24:34] <phretor> [jason]: there are no modes; the choices are very limited; here is what I see http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hZ6d48l9lzA/TTGwf2D5SKI/AAAAAAAAET0/tqhJFdIfXgk/s1600/dscn0144_b_b.jpg[00:25:51] <phretor> if I only could have a proper driver...[00:26:23] *** hsp has quit IRC[00:28:26] <phretor> it's pity because the chip is listed here http://wiki.openindiana.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4885461 - maybe it doesn't work exactly because I can't put it in JBOD mode (btw, isn't JBOD = Non-RAID?)[00:30:12] <[jason]> well, that's why i asked what your possible options where... and you didnt answer[00:31:01] <[jason]> to answer your questions directly, i would think that would be correct[00:31:13] <[jason]> but maybe there is a better choice, like 'ahci'[00:31:47] <[jason]> troubleshooting works better if you answer the questions ;-)[00:32:00] <phretor> [jason]: I answered; there are no choices besides RAID or Non-RAID (I posted a long URL, which maybe caused my msg to get dropped)[00:32:29] <phretor> [jason]: here is the JMicron BIOS menu http://sqze.it/vT0ik[00:32:32] <[jason]> hang on[00:32:53] <phretor> [jason]: holding my breath[00:33:40] <[jason]> if you press tab, can you change 'Non-RAID' to something else?[00:34:06] <phretor> [jason]: I can change it to RAID[00:34:16] <[jason]> nothing else, eh?[00:34:31] <phretor> [jason]: I'm 99.9% sure I can't; let me try one more time.[00:34:35] <[jason]> well, it is possible that you are missing a driver alias[00:35:01] <[jason]> meaning there is a driver that would work but the system doesnt recognize it off the installation media[00:35:17] <[jason]> it is a pisser when that happens[00:35:27] <phretor> [jason]: driver alias, I also miss the terminology here. I come from a Mac OS X/UNIX/Linux world. But I quite understand what you meant.[00:36:16] <phretor> [jason]: I confirm I can't choose anything beyond RAID or Non-RAID. I just tried.[00:36:26] <[jason]> k[00:36:30] <phretor> [jason]: let's pursue the 'missing-driver-alias way'[00:36:38] * phretor rebooting[00:37:10] <[jason]> there is a file in solaris /etc/driver_aliases that maps pci(e) device identifiers to drivers.[00:37:31] <phretor> [jason]: so I enter the shell during installation and change that?[00:37:39] <[jason]> so let's say your driver whizbang_jmb driver it might have aliases like 12345,01 or 12345,02[00:38:06] <[jason]> but if you card identifies it self as 12345,03 and it is otherwise compatible with 12345,01 or 12345,02 the system wont know that it is compatible[00:38:14] <phretor> I see.[00:38:24] <phretor> OK, I got shell here.[00:38:26] <[jason]> that file is on the boot media[00:38:38] <[jason]> so you first have to identify your device id[00:38:46] <phretor> [jason]: I'm booting off from a CD.[00:39:04] <[jason]> i dont have time to run through this right now[00:39:05] <[jason]> but...[00:39:18] <[jason]> run scanpci, find your sata card[00:39:28] <phretor> 3[00:39:40] <[jason]> find your pci-e ids, should look like this:[00:39:54] <[jason]> pci bus 0x000e cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x19e3 device 0xdd52[00:39:54] <[jason]> DDRdrive LLC DDRdrive X1[00:40:11] <[jason]> see that vendor 0x19e3 -- well jmb has a vendor number[00:40:18] <[jason]> the device 0xdd52 identifies the card[00:40:36] <[jason]> you have to edit /etc/driver_aliases so that your vendor and device id map to the correct driver[00:40:37] <phretor> 0x187b[00:40:43] <[jason]> then load the driver[00:40:52] <phretor> how?[00:40:53] <[jason]> and because the system didnt find the disks at boot[00:41:05] <[jason]> and because it is cheap sata you'll have to configure the drives with cfgadm[00:41:10] <[jason]> then maybe you can install[00:41:17] <phretor> ok[00:41:37] <[jason]> good luck. i have to finsih something up so i can go home ;-)[00:41:55] <phretor> thanks [jason][00:42:04] <[jason]> out of curiousity, if you do iostat -En what do you see?[00:42:49] <phretor> [jason]: lemme see[00:43:45] <phretor> [jason]: I see the four WD20EARS and the CD-ROM[00:44:00] <[jason]> and how many drives do you have?[00:44:22] <[jason]> seems like solaris already sees the disks[00:44:31] <[jason]> what is the problem?[00:44:34] <phretor> [jason]: I have 4xWD20EARS (attached to the mobo) and 2xWD*** attached to the SATA-PCIe card.[00:44:42] <[jason]> oh okay[00:44:59] <[jason]> do you have an OS on the m/b drives?[00:45:06] <phretor> [jason]: no[00:45:09] <[jason]> or are you trying to install to the pcie card?[00:45:13] *** gea_ has quit IRC[00:45:37] <phretor> [jason]: I wanted to install the OS on the mirrored pool made from the two disks attached to the pcie card[00:46:11] <[jason]> oh, well the card wont work with OI if the disks are mirrored witht he card[00:46:31] <[jason]> they should work in 'non-raid mode' if there is a driver/driver_alias[00:46:34] <phretor> [jason]: then I basically bought this hardware for nothing.[00:46:59] <[jason]> how much was the card?[00:47:26] <phretor> [jason]: no no, wait. I haven't mirrored the disks via the card bios. I am planning to make a ZFS mirrored pool onto which I would like to install IO.[00:47:29] <phretor> OI.[00:47:54] <[jason]> get a lsi sas3801e-r from ebay. dont pay more than $100 for it. i have seen them as low as $65[00:48:03] <phretor> and, now, the disks are *not* mirrored in any way. They are both in Non-RAID mode.[00:48:13] <[jason]> the sas3801e is external so you dont want that[00:48:27] <phretor> [jason]: consider that I have only one PCIe x1 slot.[00:48:38] <phretor> it's a very constrained setup.[00:48:48] <[jason]> oh, you'll need 8x for 3801[00:48:50] <[jason]> hrm[00:49:01] <[jason]> do you have pci-x slots then?[00:49:26] <phretor> [jason]: no, just one PCIe x1 and that's it. But still, the JMB363 should be supported![00:49:48] <[jason]> yes, but i am not sure you have the knowledge to get it to install[00:50:16] <[jason]> if you install to the m/b ports, you can more easily get the OS to use card by editing /etc/driver_aliases (i suspect)[00:50:39] <phretor> [jason]: why? It's just my first time on OI, but I'm pretty good with other OSes. Or maybe I can install from USB.[00:52:41] <phretor> [jason]: btw, this post is quite interesting http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=376370[00:55:49] <[jason]> well, flashing your card with the lastest version is usually a good bet[00:57:27] <[jason]> send prtconf -pv and cfgadm -l to jason a t broken.net[00:58:59] <phretor> ok, I'm still rebooting. Also, unfortunately their FTP is down :([01:08:47] <phretor> I guess I need SSH access to that machine to get the logs.[01:09:08] <phretor> i mean the output of cfgadm -l and prtconf -pv[01:14:04] *** trn has joined #openindiana[01:18:26] *** ivwang_ipad has joined #openindiana[01:19:13] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[01:21:33] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[01:23:53] *** DeanoC_ has joined #openindiana[01:23:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DeanoC_[01:24:04] *** Hedonista has left #openindiana[01:24:43] *** DeanoC has quit IRC[01:25:01] *** DeanoC_ is now known as DeanoC[01:33:07] *** ivwang_ipad has quit IRC[01:36:38] *** phretor has quit IRC[01:37:13] *** NorrinRadd has quit IRC[01:43:50] *** Norrin has joined #openindiana[01:45:49] *** hajma has quit IRC[01:48:48] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[01:53:00] *** DrLou has joined #openindiana[01:53:00] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrLou[02:05:42] *** juanfra has left #openindiana[02:06:56] *** miine has quit IRC[02:08:59] *** xmikus01 has quit IRC[02:11:30] *** Hedonista has joined #openindiana[02:13:35] *** DrLou has quit IRC[02:14:55] <brandini> serious question, when will we be able to use SSD's in zfs?[02:16:38] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[02:28:48] * Hedonista uses them now[02:31:15] *** winIO has quit IRC[02:31:24] <Hedonista> brandini, why cant you use solid state drives in zfs?[02:50:23] <brandini> something about them wearing out[02:51:33] <joffe> derp[02:51:37] <joffe> you can add them to pools[02:51:50] <joffe> as log and cache devices[02:52:11] <Triskelios> uh, ZFS actually wears them out much slower than most other filesystems[02:54:21] <alanc> are you talking about TRIM support?[02:56:41] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[02:57:25] <brandini> yeah[02:58:25] <Triskelios> that is only a performance optimisation, dude[02:58:43] <brandini> correct dude, only it's dawg slow when you don't trim[03:02:30] <richlowe> I still don't immediately see why it would be complicated to add.[03:02:35] <richlowe> and a whole shitload of people keep asking.[03:02:38] <richlowe> so you'd think _one_ of them...[03:06:42] <alanc> seems like something nexenta would be interested in coding[03:07:16] <richlowe> Expecting the "storage vendor" to do it? hah[03:07:20] <brandini> :)[03:07:38] *** tsoome has quit IRC[03:09:06] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[03:10:00] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[03:10:39] <Triskelios> I looked briefly, looks like the most logical time after space map entries are coalesced, but needs to be done after a transaction completes[03:10:54] <Triskelios> since you totally can't roll back with it[03:12:07] <richlowe> alanc: I'd assume they would only care for l2arc and slog.[03:12:19] <richlowe> Triskelios: which may make your bit there simpler?[03:13:31] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[03:13:36] *** master_of_master has joined #openindiana[03:35:00] *** DrLou has joined #openindiana[03:35:00] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrLou[03:39:44] *** elgar has joined #openindiana[03:45:29] *** redgone has joined #openindiana[03:46:47] *** McBofh has quit IRC[03:48:36] *** McBofh has joined #openindiana[03:49:19] *** m4st3rmind has joined #openindiana[03:56:09] *** skeeziks has joined #openindiana[04:18:37] *** miine has joined #openindiana[04:19:04] *** mnaser has joined #openindiana[04:20:33] *** sivanov has joined #openindiana[04:21:04] <mnaser> is there a way you have to configure a was controller? (9200-8e) -- it's setup connected to the JBOD, and cfgadm -al shows that its connected but unconifigured[04:21:32] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[04:33:23] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[04:34:47] *** m4st3rmind has quit IRC[04:51:37] *** tsoome has quit IRC[04:58:05] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[04:59:00] *** mnaser has quit IRC[05:01:06] *** mnaser has joined #openindiana[05:03:32] *** gnomad has quit IRC[05:04:03] *** mnaser has quit IRC[05:04:50] *** mnaser has joined #openindiana[05:05:17] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[05:14:23] *** gnomad has joined #openindiana[05:31:35] *** Naresh has quit IRC[05:36:27] *** skeeziks has quit IRC[05:44:02] *** mnaser has quit IRC[05:51:31] *** elgar has quit IRC[05:55:45] *** DontKnwMuch has quit IRC[06:02:58] *** DrLou has quit IRC[06:03:03] *** geoff_ has quit IRC[06:18:57] *** flyz has quit IRC[06:19:31] *** geoff_ has joined #openindiana[06:34:15] *** redgone has quit IRC[06:52:01] *** sivanov has quit IRC[06:52:30] *** sivanov has joined #openindiana[07:08:44] *** forquare has joined #openindiana[07:10:55] *** Naresh has joined #openindiana[07:23:43] *** tsukasa has quit IRC[07:29:13] *** forquare has quit IRC[07:33:09] *** dekar has quit IRC[07:35:37] *** yalu_ has joined #openindiana[07:37:15] *** tsukasa has joined #openindiana[07:38:26] *** yalu has quit IRC[07:42:01] *** McBofh has quit IRC[07:42:01] *** sivanov has quit IRC[07:42:37] *** sivanov has joined #openindiana[07:51:05] *** McBofh has joined #openindiana[07:53:42] *** Soham has joined #openindiana[08:13:18] *** Loto has joined #openindiana[08:16:10] *** Loto2 has joined #openindiana[08:16:55] *** Loto has quit IRC[08:16:55] <madwizard> Coffee[08:17:11] *** Loto2 is now known as Loto[08:17:29] *** Loto has quit IRC[08:17:29] *** Loto has joined #openindiana[08:21:27] *** Worsoe has joined #openindiana[08:30:26] *** gea_ has joined #openindiana[08:40:03] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[08:41:22] *** gea_ has quit IRC[08:44:13] *** auronandace has quit IRC[08:45:33] *** hsp has joined #openindiana[08:51:30] <miine> anybody knowing here how pkg will resolve dependencies when those url's are without the publisher ( pkg:/package vs. pkg://publisher/package )? Will it search the same publisher first, then the others, or will it search the prefered publisher's repository or even something more weird?[08:54:23] <sickness> yeah[08:54:46] *** dekar has joined #openindiana[08:55:25] <miine> sickness: yeah? So same publisher first?[08:59:29] <sickness> yeah, I suppose[09:02:57] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[09:03:12] *** anikin has joined #openindiana[09:06:21] *** merzo has joined #openindiana[09:07:16] *** flyz has joined #openindiana[09:09:26] *** bradend1 has joined #openindiana[09:12:07] <miine> Is there an easy way to get the oi man pages into the gnome "Help" GUI or a dedicated man page viewer?[09:12:16] *** bradend has quit IRC[09:15:42] <Triskelios> miine: yes, the GNOME help has a section for man pages[09:16:49] <miine> Triskelios: seen that it's called yelp. but it doesn't contain oi specific stuff (as man zpool)...[09:17:46] <Triskelios> guess it's not looking in subsections[09:18:09] <Triskelios> it also seems to barf on a lot of man pages[09:18:25] <Triskelios> file a bug?[09:19:16] <miine> yep. I should do. Is sol11exp still using man pages only or do they have switched to something more modern like docbook?[09:21:13] *** auronandace has joined #openindiana[09:31:36] *** Micr0mega has joined #openindiana[09:38:49] *** crooksey has joined #openindiana[09:39:12] *** crooksey has left #openindiana[09:47:46] *** xmikus01 has joined #openindiana[09:49:43] *** held has quit IRC[09:52:43] *** flyz has quit IRC[09:56:42] *** merzo has quit IRC[09:58:40] *** merzo has joined #openindiana[10:02:48] *** dekar has quit IRC[10:06:13] *** dekar has joined #openindiana[10:07:25] *** hajma has quit IRC[10:15:08] *** bradend has joined #openindiana[10:15:32] *** dekar has quit IRC[10:15:55] *** held has joined #openindiana[10:16:51] *** bradend1 has quit IRC[10:19:23] *** Orionau has joined #openindiana[10:19:23] *** Oriona has quit IRC[10:27:06] *** Botanic has quit IRC[10:34:21] *** lkocman has joined #openindiana[10:36:35] *** Whoopsie has joined #openindiana[10:36:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Whoopsie[10:39:14] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[10:48:03] *** Hedonista has quit IRC[11:01:31] *** NewOne has joined #openindiana[11:02:18] <NewOne> Is there a way to see open files (smb shares, I just need to see which files are currently open)?[11:03:03] <madwizard> Coffee[11:03:14] <madwizard> pfiles[11:03:17] <madwizard> or lsof[11:03:43] <madwizard> I'm not sure, but iirc samba has it's own tool able to tell that[11:03:57] <NewOne> its not samba, it is the kernel smb[11:04:48] <NewOne> lsof does not exist .. probably can be installed.[11:05:18] <NewOne> pfiles cannot control process 560 - which is smbd[11:05:23] <madwizard> NewOne: you can install lsof[11:05:39] <NewOne> true. will do![11:06:20] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[11:07:01] <Triskelios> you can't list files that way since there isn't a process that has them open[11:07:45] <madwizard> Triskelios: kernel smb won't spawn a process?[11:07:56] <Triskelios> no, it's *kernel*[11:08:00] <NewOne> I was using samba on freebsd before, but this kernel smb is way better :) only thing I am missing is a list of currently opened files[11:08:43] <NewOne> if I want to aggregate (is this how it is called?) two nics I have on the OI, will it cause a network disconnect (I am remote - not good I suppose when playing with network cards)? dladm command that is...[11:08:48] <madwizard> Triskelios: I know it is kernel, however, say, memory capping has a deamon[11:08:51] <madwizard> daemon[11:09:29] <madwizard> Anyway, doesn't matter[11:09:32] <madwizard> I need coffee[11:09:38] <NewOne> :)[11:10:03] <NewOne> dladm create -aggr -d bge0 -d bge1 1 or something like that will probably disconnect me, or not... I am 140km away from the location, lol[11:10:12] <Triskelios> maybe echo '::smblist -v' | sudo mdb -k[11:11:38] <NewOne> triskelios: wow, this is a nice one :) It listed all my connected users, which resource they have open (fs)[11:11:50] <NewOne> but still not the files itself[11:15:27] *** Hedonista has joined #openindiana[11:15:41] <NewOne> oh... crap... I can check it on a windows PC, share properties, and there they are... all the opened files... like if I was using a windows server...[11:16:10] <NewOne> :)[11:16:33] <Triskelios> for all clients or just that one?[11:16:53] <NewOne> I do it on a domain controller, I see it for all clients[11:17:31] <NewOne> in computer management - connect to another computer, and there it is[11:17:34] <Triskelios> ah, okay. ::smbofile seems to work, although I'm not sure how to walk that to a path[11:17:37] * nettezzaumana hates sudo and does `sudo -i; passwd root'[11:22:53] <NewOne> smbofile.. hm.. interesting[11:27:08] <NewOne> what is for me at least almost insane, is that I can stop/start and see all the services running on OI, from computer management on a DC...[11:29:48] <NewOne> and logs...[11:31:47] <NewOne> and while I am at logs, I have AD lookup of winname Administrator@Deep3 failed, error code -9976 - repeating all the time, deep3 does not exist deep4 is the correct name, how can I find which client is doing the wrong name?[11:34:51] *** mikw has joined #openindiana[11:39:43] <nettezzaumana> NewOne: if it's repetitive you can use snoop[11:39:49] <nettezzaumana> at least[11:39:59] <NewOne> it is repeteitive[11:40:15] <nettezzaumana> so `man -s1m snoop'[11:41:36] <NewOne> ok, but dont I need the IP if I want to filter it somehow?[11:41:40] <NewOne> my error is:[11:41:43] <NewOne> Jul 15 08:24:16 deep4 idmapd[481]: [ID 523480 daemon.notice] AD lookup of winname Administrator@Deep3 failed, error code -9976 Jul 15 08:29:48 deep4 last message repeated 62 times[11:41:53] <nettezzaumana> snoop is not filter[11:42:08] <NewOne> I know, but I want to filter the snoop output, right[11:42:11] <nettezzaumana> you need to check traffic on $port i suppose[11:42:18] <madwizard> NewOne: You can snoop on directory[11:42:25] <madwizard> And find out IP of originating client[11:42:36] *** freedomrun has joined #openindiana[11:43:19] <NewOne> Let me learn :) will try to find a way to get to it, thx for ideas[11:47:04] <nettezzaumana> NewOne: just `snoop port 389' .. nothing hard on that[11:48:09] <NewOne> my fist idea was snoop | grep deep3 ;)[11:48:19] <NewOne> but somehow didnt show anything[11:48:50] <nettezzaumana> NewOne: it's really bad idea, similar like `find / | grep foo' for finding foo in filesystem[11:50:01] *** flyz has joined #openindiana[11:50:35] *** joes_ has joined #openindiana[11:50:44] <NewOne> yes, you are right[11:59:29] *** gervystar has joined #openindiana[12:04:58] *** pjama has joined #openindiana[12:07:33] *** Botanic has quit IRC[12:19:59] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[12:23:32] *** syoyo has joined #openindiana[12:31:20] *** hsp has quit IRC[12:32:06] *** flyz has quit IRC[12:34:23] *** Orionau is now known as Oriona[12:34:37] *** laen_ has quit IRC[12:35:23] *** Oriona has quit IRC[12:35:31] *** Oriona has joined #openindiana[12:36:22] *** kohju has quit IRC[12:39:45] *** Whoopsie has quit IRC[12:41:24] *** laen_ has joined 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joined #openindiana[15:55:27] <DontKnwMuch> does anyone here use 3COM 4200g switches?[16:01:04] <DontKnwMuch> I am trying to setup link aggregation with dladm but am not sure what happens one such a link is created. I have to setup IP and stuff again as if I put another netowrk card in?[16:01:19] <DontKnwMuch> one=once[16:02:56] <DontKnwMuch> it supports LACP I beleive[16:11:31] *** freedomrun has quit IRC[16:17:33] <nettezzaumana> DontKnwMuch: i hope that you're not paid for that[16:18:12] *** axisys has joined #openindiana[16:19:19] <DontKnwMuch> I just dont know much. Therefore the questions.[16:21:39] *** lkocman has quit IRC[16:24:59] <tsoome> if you create an aggregation, you will get new virtual interface, and therefore you need to assign an ip again, yes[16:25:35] <tsoome> solaris aggregation is using LSCP, so you need an switch which can do it (and set it up accordingly)[16:27:25] <tsoome> LACP*[16:31:17] <DontKnwMuch> tsoome: thanks for info. LACP static on the switch and active on the host?[16:31:54] <tsoome> I have never set it up, have no idea:)[16:32:01] <DontKnwMuch> :)[16:32:18] <mnaser> anyone ever had fun with setting up a 9200-8e with a super micro jbod?[16:32:46] <mnaser> i have the two sff-8088 cables plugged in both ends, cfgadm reports this: "c2 scsi-sas connected unconfigured unknown" -- if i run "cfgadm -c configure c2" .. nothing happens! and it remains unconfigured[16:33:06] <mnaser> i installed lsiutils and oddly enough it reports that all links are down.. but the cables are plugged.. i did it myself, lol[16:38:03] <bradend> mnaser: I happen to have such parts on hand - you need to ave the latest firmware for that LSI board (9 seems to work, but LSI support has a 10, too).[16:38:50] <bradend> And ensure you're using the top slots on your backplane to connect - review your documentation if needed. Some of the ports on the backplanes are outputs for chaining.[16:39:43] <mnaser> bradend: i just upgraded the firmware and it reports "Firmware image's version is MPTFW-10.00.02.00-IT" and "x86 BIOS image's version is MPT2BIOS-7.19.00.00 (2011.05.16)"[16:40:37] <mnaser> however when I upgraded it never told me to reboot so I haven't really.. is it important? also, my JBOD is: "SC847E26-RJBOD1"[16:40:59] *** ivwang has quit IRC[16:42:21] <bradend> Yes, rebooting is pretty important when updating firmware.[16:42:59] <bradend> Anyhow, the LSI boards have a utility that comes up at boot (Ctrl-c to open it), the utility can tell you what the card sees.[16:43:07] <bradend> So start there.[16:43:16] *** ivwang_ipad has joined #openindiana[16:43:40] <mnaser> yeah, id need to go to the datacenter though, but I guess that way is the best, even though yesterday I tried doing that and it reported seeing nothing, but that was before the firmware upgrade[16:44:07] <bradend> Well, if it sees nothing, then the OS will see nothing.[16:44:16] <mnaser> Firmware image's version is MPTFW-07.00.00.00-IT & x86 BIOS image's version is MPT2BIOS-7.11.00.00 (2010.07.29) -- pre upgrade[16:44:16] <bradend> You don't have remote console access?[16:44:53] <bradend> Anyhow, trouble with some supermicro backplanes was a known issue, solved with version 9 or so.[16:44:53] <mnaser> i just set this up yesterday on an IP, I didn't bother too much with the details of console/etc because at that point i just wanted simple remote access to keep playing with it[16:45:17] <mnaser> i hope so. stupid question, it seems when i reboot the server, it never entirely/physically reboots[16:45:24] <mnaser> init 6/reboot seems to reload the entire OS[16:45:41] <mnaser> i come from linuxland :<[16:46:20] <tsoome> man reboot[16:47:15] <bradend> Anyhoo, you may have the backplane plugged in wrong, too. So read the docs and double check if it still gives you trouble.[16:47:21] <bradend> I have to take off now. Good luck.[16:47:35] <mnaser> thanks bradend -- i'm back to doing my reading now, a bit more reference[16:48:39] <mnaser> tsoome: i just went through it nothing mentions an actual hard reboot?[16:48:43] *** lkocman has joined #openindiana[16:50:25] <tsoome> did you read about -p?:P[16:50:52] *** merzo has quit IRC[16:52:32] <mnaser> i did but i don't know what "prom" was exactly so i assumed it was some sort of grub-like thing[16:52:34] <mnaser> let's try this[16:54:09] <tsoome> :P[16:54:57] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[16:55:35] <mnaser> thanks tsoome, the server stopped pinging for a pretty long time and back nnow[16:55:39] <mnaser> so i guess that's done[16:56:33] *** anikin has quit IRC[16:57:31] <mnaser> still all links reported down, time to blame super micro :<[16:57:51] <tsoome> the prom is of course the sparc term, the wording in that section is not that clear for x86 people..[16:58:36] <tsoome> maybe the system needs even cold boot with power off....[17:00:10] <mnaser> doubt it i think it's the jbod..[17:03:05] *** lkocman has quit IRC[17:04:33] *** skeeziks has joined #openindiana[17:05:45] *** mnaser has quit IRC[17:09:01] *** ivwang_ipad has quit IRC[17:09:59] *** jpg has joined #openindiana[17:26:00] <bradend> I don't have that particular model JBOD, but supermicro's JBODs use LSI expanders. You may also be running in to an incompatibility with a SATA disk, if you have an, and especially an SSD.[17:26:57] *** miine has quit IRC[17:27:05] <bradend> So, for testing, connect only 1 cable, and take out all but one of the disks.[17:27:48] <bradend> You may also find you need a new mainboard firmware. The option ROM size of some LSI firmware is gigantic, and some mainboard firmware revisions leave me space available than others.[17:28:24] *** tsoome has quit IRC[17:29:56] *** heldchen has joined #openindiana[17:30:12] *** held has quit IRC[17:33:11] *** miine has joined #openindiana[17:34:37] *** xmikus01 has quit IRC[17:34:37] *** heldchen has quit IRC[17:34:38] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[17:35:22] *** Soham has quit IRC[17:41:04] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[17:50:03] *** gervystar_ has joined #openindiana[17:53:36] *** gervystar has quit IRC[17:59:26] *** Micr0mega has left #openindiana[18:00:57] *** ivwang_ipad has joined #openindiana[18:01:07] *** gervystar has joined #openindiana[18:01:18] *** flyz has joined #openindiana[18:02:32] *** gervystar has quit IRC[18:04:24] *** gervystar_ has quit IRC[18:05:19] *** russiane39 has quit IRC[18:10:48] *** ivwang_ipad has quit IRC[18:12:55] *** mikw has quit IRC[18:19:25] *** mnaser has joined #openindiana[18:19:40] *** russiane39 has joined #openindiana[18:25:04] *** ThomasB2k has quit IRC[18:30:24] *** kart_ has quit IRC[18:31:03] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[18:53:05] *** tru_tru has quit IRC[19:13:40] <mnaser> so it was the jbod but[19:14:26] <mnaser> 5242880000 bytes (5.2 GB) copied, 58.4158 s, 89.8 MB/s -- with 16x 1TB drives, 2x 32GB ZIL logs (mirrored), 2x 160GB L2ARC, 48GB RAM[19:14:29] <mnaser> running mirrored striped[19:14:33] <mnaser> so raid-10 like[19:14:37] <mnaser> and thats for a write[19:15:25] <mnaser> and now magically it decides to run "2625634304 bytes (2.6 GB) copied, 0.7688 s, 3.4 GB/s" but for rewrites[19:15:41] <mnaser> err nvm thats for reads[19:15:43] <mnaser> talking to myself fail[19:17:07] <tsoome> thats your memory troughput:P[19:17:14] <mnaser> yeah i'm aware for that[19:17:25] <mnaser> but writes 16 drives 90mb only?[19:19:43] <tsoome> on what? local fs?[19:20:55] <mnaser> 9200-8e connected to jbod using 6gbps sas[19:21:26] <mnaser> it doesn't exceed 100 megabyte per second for writes using dd[19:21:54] <bradend> DD's default block size is 512B, try setting it to 1G[19:22:22] <lennard> wait what?[19:22:28] <lennard> 1G? :P[19:22:34] <bradend> Sure, why not.[19:22:57] <lennard> well, erm, its just not very usefull[19:23:10] <lennard> nothing beyond 32M or so is, in my experience :)[19:23:23] <bradend> Nope, it's not, it's stupidly high. I agree.[19:23:27] <bradend> It's also amusing.[19:23:57] <mnaser> the command i was running was actually "dd if=/dev/zero of=2g bs=1M count=2000"[19:23:59] <bradend> Then again, my 9200-8e against a supermicro JBOD can read dump made by urand at about 1G/sec[19:24:27] <mnaser> wait it just did a 468 write[19:24:27] <lennard> 1M still can be a bit lowish[19:24:29] <mnaser> wtf[19:24:44] <mnaser> doing 450MB writes now..[19:24:44] <bradend> I built it just last week.[19:24:44] <lennard> but usually not all that much of a difference :)[19:25:45] *** gea_ has quit IRC[19:25:56] <mnaser> and now it's doing 309MB/s writes[19:26:02] <mnaser> still slow for 16 drives in raid-10[19:27:10] <tsoome> how fast it will write to /dev/null?[19:27:21] <tomww> how many PCIe lanes involved[19:27:37] <bradend> I believe the 9200 is a 4x[19:28:01] <tomww> and eventually fsync ... so better check the benchmark parameters first[19:28:24] <mnaser> i see[19:28:25] <tsoome> well, dd with those options is async[19:28:46] <mnaser> tsoome: reads are cached so they're doing 3.6GB/s[19:28:52] <mnaser> i have 48GB ram on the server[19:29:32] *** kart_ has quit IRC[19:29:33] <mnaser> and it just wrote a 1gb file in 840MB/s, why are they changing a lot[19:29:41] <mnaser> i just created the array, is it possible that its warming up or setting up or something..[19:30:07] <tsoome> it cant warm up without IO;)[19:30:14] <mnaser> just did a 2.1GB/s write now[19:30:16] <mnaser> i am _so_ confused.[19:30:22] <bradend> mnaser: /dev/zero isn't a very good test.[19:30:23] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[19:30:40] <mnaser> but it still as to write zero's to a file[19:30:43] <tsoome> yep thats why i did suggest to test writing to /dev/nu ll;)[19:30:52] <mnaser> writing to /dev/null = read[19:30:59] <mnaser> unless i[19:31:03] <mnaser> i'm confused[19:31:03] <tsoome> read from /dev/zero[19:31:06] <bradend> Try generating a big (16GB?) file from urand, getting that thing into cache, and then try copying.[19:31:27] <mnaser> read from dev zero and write to dev null?[19:31:36] <bradend> That's amusing, but not so useful.[19:31:49] <bradend> Pushing zeroes around will never really get you meaningful results.[19:31:57] <bradend> It's fun though![19:32:11] <mnaser> fine then, bonnie++ or?[19:32:23] <tsoome> well, at lest you will know how meaningful the /dev/zero is for data generation;)[19:32:58] <tomww> well, /usr/benchmark/ lists several programs better then "dd" for testing: bonnie++ filebench iozone sysbench[19:33:11] <tomww> the blogs should contain usege hints as well.[19:33:23] <tsoome> depends what exactly are you testing.[19:33:24] <mnaser> i don't have /usr/benchmark on my openindiana machine (oi_151)[19:33:25] <bradend> mnaser: That's fine, or filebench is dandy. If you want to get a bit more meaning out of just plain old DD, make a file with /dev/urandom, cache that file, and then write it out to a new fi.le a few times.[19:34:03] <mnaser> i think ill go the benchmark because dd doesn't even light up my ZIL[19:34:15] <bradend> It really won't.[19:34:33] <tsoome> zil wont be lit unless you do sync mode IO[19:34:37] <bradend> NFS is a decent way to test the zil, thanks to bloody NFS commits.[19:34:41] <tsoome> async wont touch it, never[19:34:49] <mnaser> well the benchmarks might make it work?[19:34:56] <tomww> mnaser: pkg search -r usr/benchmarks[19:35:09] <tomww> oh sorry, that pattern doesn't print anything[19:35:28] <tsoome> nfs sucks for testing anything really.[19:35:35] <bradend> It's great for testing NFS.[19:35:36] <tomww> pkg search -r benchmark[19:35:36] <mnaser> ill be using iscsi anyways[19:35:38] <tomww> much better[19:35:48] <tsoome> if you wanna test your ssd on zil, set sync=always and do local io[19:36:07] <tsoome> otherwise you are stuck on network and not seeing disk io[19:36:29] <mnaser> thats why i wanna check perf locally and make sure it's up and good[19:36:32] <mnaser> then add iscsi after[19:36:52] <tsoome> exactly. and iscsi will still suck big times.[19:37:34] <mnaser> why so[19:37:40] <bradend> Keep in mind that the ZIL is supposed to only kick in for sync writes, and even then, if the sync write io is larger than 64K, the data will go to disk, and the zil will just handle the metadata dance, if I recall correclt.y[19:38:35] <mnaser> iozone works out the zip, nice[19:38:38] <mnaser> zil*[19:38:38] <tsoome> uhm, wasnt it 32k?[19:38:40] <bradend> Hey, my iSCSI reliable does 1.2GB/s, no problemo. That's with the occasional fsyc (thank you DDRdrive x1)[19:38:55] <bradend> It might be 32?[19:39:00] <bradend> I really though it weas 64.[19:39:26] *** radsy has quit IRC[19:43:09] <tsoome> oh, im really not too sure:D[19:45:08] <mnaser> i can workout the ZIL with iozone[19:45:49] <mnaser> 2.5GB/s write, 1.3GB/s rewrite, 1.3GB/s read, 3.3GB/s reread/random read[19:46:14] <mnaser> isn't sas 6gbps how can it hit that speed :\[19:46:36] <tsoome> your memory troughput was 3.x[19:46:44] <tsoome> so you wont[19:46:49] <mnaser> http://pastebin.com/2mYnM9fK[19:47:05] *** ThomasB2k has joined #openindiana[19:47:10] <mnaser> yay/nay? what do you guys think[19:47:14] <mnaser> should i be happy or is that slow[19:47:59] <tsoome> 3.3GB/s read is from cache. so, if you cant read faster than that from the ram, you wont see 6Gb/s[19:48:25] <mnaser> yeah no I understand[19:48:31] <mnaser> the writes tho.. seem too fast..[19:50:20] <bradend> Well, if you want a real (local) test of maximum write throughput (which is a tiny subset of what a SAN actually has to do), generate a dump of 16-32 GB from urandom, cache that dump, and write it out to disk.[19:50:21] <tsoome> those are writes to the cache[19:50:49] <mnaser> how/why would it write to the cache … isn't zfs copy-on-write?[19:51:00] <mnaser> and if you mean it's using the ZIL then that's good performance..[19:51:02] <tsoome> async write, remember;)[19:51:24] <tsoome> application wont see disk speed unless its using O_SYNC[19:52:08] <bradend> Zil's one job in life is to make sure that a small sync write isn't going to cause latency. Its function is not to really contribute to stable storage throughput directly.[19:52:24] <bradend> To break it down to a gross under-description of what it does.[19:52:51] <tsoome> compare fsstat zfs 1 to zpool iostat poolname 1[19:53:00] <tsoome> while testing;)[19:53:23] <bradend> I think iozone actually barfs out highly predictable/compressable data.[19:53:50] <bradend> Richard Elling's zilstat script is awesome for this sort of investigation, by the way.[19:54:17] <bradend> http://www.richardelling.com/Home/scripts-and-programs-1/zilstat[19:54:50] *** [jason] has quit IRC[19:55:01] <tsoome> and if you wanna see sync mode io and your app wont do it, set sync=always:)[19:55:31] <bradend> Is the iSCSI for SQL Server?[19:56:35] <mnaser> bradend: vm storage[19:56:41] <bradend> Ah.[19:56:59] <mnaser> I'm trying to get the infiniband to work now[19:57:02] <mnaser> so the basic is there[19:57:06] <mnaser> and then i can do my tweaking after[19:57:23] <bradend> Mellanox Connect-x HCAs?[19:57:30] <mnaser> yep, with memory[19:57:53] <bradend> I've been running 'em for about 4 months now. Stupid fast.[19:57:56] <mnaser> actually infinihost[19:57:57] <mnaser> my bad[19:58:04] <bradend> Infinihost III?[19:58:07] <mnaser> yes[19:58:34] <bradend> Support for those is pretty gosh durned good.[19:58:36] <mnaser> I'm clueless, any docs that helped you get started with it, I'm looking to set iSER (mainly the solaris part of things is the bad part for me)[19:58:44] <mnaser> which is why i picked them :p[19:59:31] <bradend> The only docs I've really used are the manuals for the OSes and drivers and equipments involved.[20:00:00] <bradend> Though I'm using SRP instead of iSER, because I'm lame.[20:00:08] <bradend> <--- Lame.[20:01:14] <mnaser> its just i have no clue that they're connected or not[20:01:14] <mnaser> hah[20:01:25] <bradend> Do you have a subnet manager up?[20:02:59] <bradend> Here, this gentleman's blog does a fair job explaining some basics for you: http://dsumsky.blogspot.com/2008/05/rhel-and-infiniband-basic-usage.html[20:04:12] <mnaser> bradend: using topspin 120, it has a built in SM[20:05:22] <bradend> The blog link references RHEL, but the utilities involved are mostly specific to OFED in general, and so the stuff in there is applicable to multiple platforms.[20:05:55] <mnaser> I'm gonna connect to serial of the switch[20:05:56] <mnaser> see what's up there[20:10:51] *** mnaser has quit IRC[20:14:39] *** kart_ has quit IRC[20:14:48] *** redgone has joined #openindiana[20:16:36] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[20:22:21] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[20:22:21] *** Botanic has quit IRC[20:22:21] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[20:27:03] *** winIO has joined #openindiana[20:30:30] *** Naresh has quit IRC[20:34:33] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[20:42:38] *** Tukeke has joined #openindiana[20:43:44] <Tukeke> Hi[20:43:45] *** dekar_ has joined #openindiana[20:43:53] <Tukeke> where I can download the kernel source code ?[20:47:24] <tomww> the openindiana wiki shoul know.[20:48:07] <tomww> but don't expect anything to be configurable. normally there is no gain in compiling the kernel yourself on solaris[20:48:50] *** dekar_ has quit IRC[20:50:01] *** dekar_ has joined #openindiana[20:52:54] *** dekar_ has quit IRC[21:01:56] *** sdward has joined #openindiana[21:06:33] *** bens1 has quit IRC[21:08:03] *** held has joined #openindiana[21:09:02] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[21:09:23] <raichoo> hi folks[21:11:53] *** spanglywires has joined #openindiana[21:19:09] *** scarcry has quit IRC[21:20:17] *** Naresh has joined #openindiana[21:25:38] *** scarcry has joined #openindiana[21:50:42] *** richlowe has quit IRC[21:51:59] *** richlowe has joined #openindiana[21:53:17] *** joffe is now known as \\j0ff3\\[21:54:04] *** \\j0ff3\\ is now known as joffe[21:54:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o richlowe[21:55:41] *** hajma has quit IRC[21:59:06] *** elgar has joined #openindiana[22:01:39] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[22:07:22] *** freedomrun has joined #openindiana[22:09:14] <edgars> yo[22:09:38] <Triskelios> hello[22:12:54] *** hajma has quit IRC[22:13:41] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[22:18:13] *** cmn has left #openindiana[22:21:42] *** hajma has quit IRC[22:34:28] *** sdward has quit IRC[22:48:40] *** Tukeke has left #openindiana[22:52:57] *** dennison has joined #openindiana[22:55:12] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[22:55:19] *** melliott has quit IRC[22:58:29] *** eryc- has joined #openindiana[22:58:50] <dennison> i'm trying to get a script to run upon state transition on VRRP. i've got my script under "/etc/vrrpd/sthook.vrrp1". i've tested the script by itself to make sure it works but when i "vrrpadm disable-router vrrp1" VRRPD doesn't run the script. anyone ever run into something like this?[22:58:58] *** melliott has joined #openindiana[23:00:47] *** melliott has quit IRC[23:01:01] *** melliott has joined #openindiana[23:02:53] *** jpg has quit IRC[23:02:53] *** jwit has quit IRC[23:02:53] *** LizardKing has quit IRC[23:02:53] *** Triskelios has quit IRC[23:02:53] *** eryc has quit IRC[23:02:53] *** eryc- is now known as eryc[23:03:37] *** Triskelios has joined #openindiana[23:03:57] *** LizardKing has joined #openindiana[23:05:32] <dennison> i would assume if failover is working that vrrpd is running...[23:07:40] *** Triskelios has quit IRC[23:08:17] *** Triskelios has joined #openindiana[23:08:43] *** jwit has joined #openindiana[23:12:45] *** freedomrun has quit IRC[23:20:37] *** skeeziks has quit IRC[23:29:26] *** melliott has quit IRC[23:34:32] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[23:35:52] *** dijenerate has joined #openindiana[23:46:50] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[23:50:45] *** hsp has quit IRC