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[00:21:27] <DontKnwMuch> is it recommended to set a blocksize for fs which will be used as nfs esxi datastore?
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[00:26:57] <tsoome> default is ok afaik.
[00:27:01] <tsoome> 128k
[00:30:27] <DontKnwMuch> so just leavind it alone will do it by itself?
[00:30:36] <tsoome> yes
[00:30:48] <tsoome> there are few things tho
[00:31:24] <DontKnwMuch> yes?
[00:31:26] <tsoome> first and most important - solaris nfs serve does sync mode by default
[00:31:32] <tsoome> server*
[00:31:55] <DontKnwMuch> ok, I got ssd slog, so this should make it ok
[00:32:12] <DontKnwMuch> hopefully
[00:32:13] <tsoome> depends on IO, but hopefully yes.
[00:32:59] <tsoome> second thing is tcp tuning - as vmware will do IO with large chunks, the tuning may boost troughput quite nicely
[00:33:13] <tsoome> http://slaptijack.com/system-administration/solaris-tcp-performance-tuning/
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[00:33:38] <tsoome> according to smblient, those ndd's did boost troughput by 50%
[00:34:05] <tsoome> (and yes, smblient is just streaming io)
[00:34:26] <tsoome> third one - more datasets and mount are better than one big ine
[00:34:28] <tsoome> one*
[00:34:53] <DontKnwMuch> oh.. very nice info I must say
[00:35:21] <tsoome> with sync mode and even with slog the single mount and therefore the single connection may not be enough - but that depends on your setup
[00:35:23] <DontKnwMuch> the third one - you meant more nfs 'shares'
[00:35:30] <tsoome> yes
[00:36:09] <tsoome> every mount you do will get its own connection, meaning you get more parallel streams. but thats something you wanna test first
[00:37:06] <DontKnwMuch> I have also three glan on it, and will try to make one only for nfs, or should I 'bound' them
[00:37:25] <tsoome> we did some test with creating huge load of small files (1kb), on that case, every share got its own test app, and total result was pretty nice
[00:38:33] <tsoome> bonding/aggregation does not help much with single host, but if you have several connections and aggregation will spread them over physical links, it can be nice
[00:38:56] <tsoome> with single link, only benefit you get is failover
[00:39:54] <tsoome> ah, those ndd's need startup script or smf service, /etc/system wont do (as you can read from comments).
[00:40:33] <DontKnwMuch> yes, I read the comments :)
[00:40:51] <DontKnwMuch> actually I will be running all it can from it, smb, iscsi, nfs, and in this case aggregation is better I suppose
[00:41:08] <tsoome> depends how it will spread the connections
[00:42:04] <DontKnwMuch> true. Will have to try (and learn how to do it in the first place)
[00:42:47] <DontKnwMuch> thank you for great info !
[00:42:54] <tsoome> dlstat -i 1 or something)
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[00:55:26] <alfox> Does the openindiana server iso just contain the text installer, or is there a live cd I can use to check some things on my zfs pool?
[00:57:15] <miine> alfox: its called the desktop version...
[00:58:28] <alfox> miine, but thats a GUI livecd
[00:58:47] <alfox> I just want a shell to check some things, I don't really want to download a full GUI live DVD
[00:59:10] <miine> alfox: then you're out of luck. bu you can build one yourself...
[00:59:21] <sickness> there's the live textinstall :P
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[01:01:17] <alfox> ok thanks
[01:04:19] <dkeav> iirc you can exit the text installer to a shell
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[01:12:07] <alfox> dkeav: ok nice, downloading the server anyway, lets see what I can do with it.
[01:19:26] <DanaG> hmm, I enabled time-slider, but it doesn't seem to be doing anything.
[01:20:17] <DontKnwMuch> are datastores created on NFS shares thin provisioned?
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[01:21:45] <tsoome> ? only thing provisioning is with zvols where you can create zvol with "holes"
[01:22:32] <tomww> sparse
[01:23:06] <ry> how can i enable the "share desktop" feature from a terminal?
[01:26:01] <jkimball4> gconf setting maybe
[01:26:23] <jkimball4> i know you can set gconf settings from terminal, but i'm not versed inthat
[01:26:56] <ry> yeah, cant seem to find the info anyway, maybe i'm searching for the wrong terms
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[01:27:12] <alanc> vino is the gnome desktop sharing app
[01:27:18] <alanc> if that helps you search
[01:28:07] <ry> looks like it might, trying now
[01:33:13] <DontKnwMuch> tomww: I thought it is not as ls showed full size, du -hs shows space used, and true, it is thin provisioned, sparse :)
[01:39:36] <ry> well svcadm enable xvnc-inetd opens it but doesnt seem to issue the proper settings as starting it from gnome, isnt there a way to see the command line the shortcut in the menu uses?
[01:40:16] <ry> (when i connect after svcadm enable xvnc-inetd it's just black)
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[01:44:59] <alanc> xvnc-inetd is not what the gnome thing runs
[01:45:23] <alanc> that should be starting a new session, not sharing the existing one
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[19:50:20] <jarray52> I'm having difficulty getting X11 to work properly on OpenIndiana. It seems to be installed, but startx results in my machine sending a signal that is probably too high a resolution for my monitor.
[19:50:24] <jarray52> Any suggestions?
[19:52:29] <tsoome> create correct conf then?
[19:52:58] <tsoome> as it seems the autodetect does not get it correctly..
[19:54:08] <jarray52> tsoome: I created an Xorg.conf file. I've never had luck getting one of these to work properly when the autoconfigure doesn't work.
[19:54:40] <jarray52> tsoome: I created the file. Nowhere in the file is there a resolution setting.
[19:55:02] <jarray52> tsoome: Should I pastebin the created xorg.conf file?
[19:55:25] <tsoome> i cant help with it, its ages since i did look inside of it;)
[19:56:18] <saablover> same here
[19:56:27] <tsoome> there used to be some apps to create that config?
[19:57:25] <jarray52> tsoome: X11 has an auto creation program to create the xorg.conf.new file.
[19:57:45] <jarray52> tsoome: believe it is /usr/X11/bin/xorg
[19:59:06] <tomww> Xorg -configure
[19:59:13] <jarray52> the exact command is /usr/X11/bin/Xorg -configure
[19:59:22] <jarray52> tomww: Yes
[19:59:44] <tomww> and in most cases there is no hard need for creating that file.
[20:00:34] <jarray52> tomww: True. In my case, X11 doesn't seem to work out of the box. After typing startx, my monitor says that the signal is out of range and that I need to adjust the signal.
[20:00:46] <jarray52> tomww: Any suggestions?
[20:01:49] <CME> try to adjust HorizSync and VertRefresh in the monitor section
[20:03:19] <jarray52> CME: There is no HorizSync or VertRefresh in the monitor section?
[20:04:08] <CME> add it.. well, can you pastebin the xorg.log?
[20:04:15] <jarray52> Also, my Xorg -configure gives me many, many (EE) warnings that modules cannot load.
[20:04:20] <jarray52> CME: Yes.
[20:05:07] <jarray52> CME: Is wgetpaste in OpenIndiana repositories?
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[20:06:53] <CME> jarray52, no idea
[20:09:01] <jarray52> CME: What do you use to paste a text file to a pastebin?
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[20:10:23] <CME> well, i just have oi in a vm, so i just copy it to the host or netcat :)
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[20:10:34] <CME> brb, food
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[20:13:03] <jarray52> Does OpenIndiana have a program like pastebin, wgetpaste, dpaste, etc.?
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[20:13:39] <saablover> the gui app ?
[20:13:59] <jarray52> saablover: Non gui. Command line.
[20:14:07] <saablover> both, no
[20:14:42] <jarray52> saablover: What is the OI way to pastebin a log file or config file?
[20:14:59] <saablover> you copy the data on the website
[20:15:02] <saablover> and publish it
[20:15:46] <jarray52> saablover: If one doesn't have X11 up and running, do I need to copy over the text file to another machine on the network via scp and then publish from that machine?
[20:16:13] <jarray52> or, is there a one line command to do it directly from the command line in OI?
[20:17:21] <saablover> can't you copy and paste via putty ?
[20:17:25] <saablover> or something else
[20:17:42] <jarray52> i'll just scp it and then dpaste it.
[20:17:51] <saablover> that would be cool
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[20:18:45] <Triskelios> jarray52: you can use sprunge.us if you have curl
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[20:21:41] <jarray521> http://dpaste.com/567969/
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[20:23:16] <jarray522> Sorry. Connection problem.
[20:23:32] <jarray522> Did I miss something?
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[20:27:33] <jarray522> CME: Is there a problem with my X11 installation?
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[20:32:05] <Triskelios> jarray522: for some reason the trident driver doesn't like your video chip
[20:33:07] <CME> jarray522, that looks like the output of X -configure, can you try now the command there in the last line and pastebin the xorg log?
[20:33:30] <jarray522> CME: Okay.
[20:36:20] <jarray522> CME: It's telling me fatal server error. Unrecognized option /path/to/xorg.conf.new
[20:37:42] <Triskelios> or just start with no xorg.conf...
[20:39:08] <jarray522> Triskelios: The second option will tell me that the signal is outside the monitor range and I won't be able to exit X11. Thus, I have to restart the machine.
[20:40:20] <jarray522> The config file is in /home/bigbear/
[20:40:51] <jarray522> The commands X -config /home/bigbear/xorg.conf.new and the command X -config ../../home/bigbear/xorg.conf.new
[20:41:10] <jarray522> give the same error message
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[20:42:39] <jarray522> I ran X -config without a file... and my monitor now states Change the signal to ... Is there a way to kill X11?
[20:46:11] <jarray522> I flipped the power switch and restarted.
[20:46:37] <bradend> I believe the X shortcut for death is ctrl-alt-backspace.
[20:47:28] <jarray522> bradend: That didn't seem to work.
[20:47:38] <CME> that was disabled a while ago
[20:47:48] <bradend> Booo.
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[20:48:11] <bradend> My knowledge is a bit dated.
[20:51:03] <Triskelios> jarray522: you're not allowed to use a config file outside /etc/X11 as a normal user
[20:51:27] <Triskelios> you can enable virtual consoles so you can get another console while X is running
[20:52:17] <Triskelios> you don't have another system to ssh in from?
[20:52:37] <Triskelios> a trident is not going to be terribly useful as a desktop...
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[20:56:40] <jarray52> Triskelios: I have another system I can ssh from, but I'd like to get this system working as a desktop so that I can play around a bit. I'll get a graphics card for it if possible.
[20:57:30] <Triskelios> but you can kill X from there, then
[20:58:26] <jarray52> Accidentally ran fpaste... Here's the Xorg log file. http://fpaste.org/IwM0/
[20:59:24] <jarray52> Triskelios: Good point. At the time, I didn't have the local ip address of the sun machine.
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[20:59:46] <jarray52> Triskelios: I will ssh in and kill X11 next time it crashes.
[21:00:22] <jarray52> Tiskelios: Also, when I used Fedora on this box, the graphics card was adequate for use.
[21:01:47] <jarray52> Does the Xorg output suggest that X11 won't work with this Graphics card?
[21:04:51] <Triskelios> it's "working", just not with the right driver
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[21:17:17] <jarray52> Triskelios: What is the "right" driver?
[21:17:28] <Triskelios> trident
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[21:19:00] <jarray52> Which driver is it using?
[21:19:48] <jarray52> Will it work with Vesa?
[21:21:04] <Triskelios> it's using vesa, since trident didn't stick
[21:21:21] <jarray52> The Vesa is not working either.
[21:21:28] <Triskelios> it's working
[21:21:35] <Triskelios> your monitor doesn't seem to like the 1024x768 vesa mode
[21:21:46] <tomww> jarray52: suggestions, pastebin the /var/log/Xorg.0.log from the Xconfig -config $HOME/xorg.conf.new
[21:22:03] <tomww> this might get us and idea of what the monitor could be able to display
[21:22:13] <tomww> and paste the xorg.conf as well
[21:22:44] <Triskelios> tomww: I have enough info, it's not getting a DDC read from the monitor
[21:23:00] <jarray52> tomww: The monitor displays 1900x1280.
[21:23:36] <jarray52> Triskelios: What causes this
[21:23:39] <jarray52> ?
[21:23:59] <jarray52> Should I get a PCI graphics card for the server?
[21:26:54] <tomww> is this old analog connector? I've seen pins bent and not longer connecting, just in case.
[21:27:56] <Triskelios> or old cables missing a pin for DDC
[21:28:31] <jarray52> tomww: No. It's the standard VGA. I have no problem using the cable and monitor with another OS. And, I have no problem running another OS with same cable and monitor on this machine.
[21:29:03] <Triskelios> jarray52: VGA is the "old analog connector"
[21:29:18] <Triskelios> could also be a bug in vesa
[21:29:25] <Triskelios> which is a last resort anyway
[21:29:45] <jarray52> Triskelios: Then yes.
[21:30:06] <Triskelios> you seem to have the latest (last) version of the trident driver, so I don't know why it isn't attaching
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[21:30:38] <jarray52> Why is vesa failing?
[21:31:10] <jarray52> The monitor has a DVI port, but the box doesn't have a DVI connection.
[21:31:18] <Triskelios> vesa is not failing
[21:31:51] <jarray52> If Vesa was working and I start X11, then I should see a low resolution X11, right?
[21:32:32] <Triskelios> your monitor might be extremely picky about the modes it supports
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[21:37:05] <jarray52> Triskelios. I have another monitor. Let me try it.
[21:39:47] <Triskelios> your /usr/bin/amd64/Xorg is setuid root, right?
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[21:46:40] <jarray52> Triskelios: I tried with another monitor, and I have the exact same problem.
[21:49:12] <jarray52> I believe the
[21:49:22] <jarray52> 's' in the output above indicates setuid.
[21:50:03] <jarray52> This seems to indicate a bug, right?
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[21:50:53] <jarray52> or hardware failure
[21:50:57] <jarray52> or hardware bug
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[21:58:50] <rom> Hello
[21:59:11] <rom> I wanted to ask few question, if somebody could point me in a right direction.
[22:00:36] <rom> I installed build 148 and looking how to get access to few disks that contain linux raid10 partitions. Would it be possible to do through one of virtualization packages, like virtualbox?
[22:03:16] <jarray52> Triskelios: Do you have any suggestions on how to proceed? Should I get a PCI graphics card?
[22:03:28] <Triskelios> jarray52: the VESA mode selection in the driver should be simple enough that I'm less likely to suspect it, could be something funny with the hardware
[22:03:38] <Triskelios> jarray52: probably the best course of action
[22:04:00] <Triskelios> rom: yes, VirtualBox should work
[22:04:01] <saablover> Triskelios: still here ?
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[22:26:20] <scarcry> if there are any wiki admins around..http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Ethernet+Networking?focusedCommentId=4887441#comment-4887441 could use some spam cleaning (last 3 comments)
[22:28:18] <rom_can> is it possible to have command-line interface for vbox? I don't need all this GUI-related packages really.
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[22:38:31] <jarray52> Triskelios: Is this card supported by Open Indiana? Matrox Millennium G450 32M PCI Video Card G45FMDVP32DBF
[22:39:26] <richlowe> rom_can: VBoxManage, VBoxHeadless
[22:39:28] <alanc> matrox cards in general should work for 2D, as long as you don't want things like suspend-and-resume or 3D effects like compiz, but I don't know exact model numbers off the top of my head
[22:39:50] <richlowe> I frequently forget matrox ever existed.
[22:39:57] <alanc> I wish I could
[22:40:22] <alanc> I'd almost forgotten S3 Graphics ever existed when I saw the news this week that HTC bought them
[22:40:36] <richlowe> I think of them about as frequently as evans and sutherland
[22:40:40] <richlowe> (who apparently still exist!)
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[22:40:46] <alanc> sadly S3's texture compression patents make them harder to forget completely
[22:41:42] <jarray52> alanc: I'm about to purchase one. Is there a way to look up compatibility?
[22:42:12] <Triskelios> jarray52: the driver should work, but I doubt it's been tested for a decade
[22:42:25] <alanc> the man page says:
[22:42:28] <alanc> G400 Millennium G400, Millennium G400 MAX, Millennium G450,
[22:42:28] <alanc> and Marvel G450 eTV
[22:42:31] <tomww> rom_can: there is a doc explaining how to add "raw" disks with a commandline to vbox, after that you can addign that raw disk to the guest OS
[22:43:27] <alanc> strangely, the Matrox G200 series has become where most attention is paid, as it got embedded in service processors by several vendors (IBM at least, maybe Dell?)
[22:45:20] <tomww> rom_can: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk
[22:46:23] <tomww> rom_can: you get a tiny file containing the config for that raw disk, and the access goes then to the raw disk. this way you might be able to access the linux raid
[22:48:43] <jarray52> Once I get the G450, I'll give this another try.
[22:48:49] <jarray52> Triskelios: Thanks.
[22:49:11] <jarray52> I appreciate everyone's help.
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[22:50:05] <Triskelios> I didn't see a logical reason why the trident driver wouldn't attach, pretty strange
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[22:52:50] <jarray52> Triskelios: Is there a diagnostic test I could run?
[22:53:16] <alanc> oh, apparently we simply disabled that chip
[22:53:49] <alanc> http://hg.openindiana.org/xnv/file/9045745b7172/open-src/driver/xf86-video-trident/6452329.patch
[22:54:00] <Triskelios> !!
[22:54:16] <Triskelios> so it's alanc's fault :)
[22:54:41] <alanc> no, don't believe the changeset info there, that's just the tip info
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[22:55:00] <alanc> http://hg.openindiana.org/xnv/rev/992bdd20a4ab
[22:55:39] <alanc> right, I forgot the reason we still had trident was because V20z's have them on-board, but then we disabled the one they have on board because the trident driver hangs with it
[22:58:08] <jarray52> Is this an easy fix?
[22:59:50] <jarray52> I should read more carefully... It is not an easy fix.
[23:00:03] <Triskelios> jarray52: let me see if I can give you an edited binary since I don't have a xnv workspace. otherwise if you can wait for yofuh to do a rebuild...
[23:00:04] <jarray52> I'll try again once the Matrox arrives.
[23:00:52] <Triskelios> have a couple of minutes?
[23:01:08] <jarray52> Triskelios: Sure.
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[23:08:37] <jarray52> Triskelios: What's the plan?
[23:08:52] <jarray52> Should I wait for a rebuild or the edited binary?
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[23:11:36] <Triskelios> jarray52: should have the edit done in a sec
[23:11:47] <Triskelios> figured out where the table was just now
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[23:14:43] <Triskelios> http://trisk.deadgerbil.com/trident_drv.so.gz
[23:15:40] <Triskelios> gunzip that and drop it in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/amd64/
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[23:17:16] <jarray522> Triskelios: Sorry. Connection problems.
[23:17:27] <jarray522> Let me give this a try.
[23:18:48] <jarray522> Where should I copy the driver?
[23:19:20] <Triskelios> <Triskelios> gunzip that and drop it in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/amd64/
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[23:21:52] <jarray522> Do I just startx?
[23:22:01] <Triskelios> yes
[23:24:04] <jarray522> It seems to crash again.
[23:24:43] <jarray522> Triskelios: I don't get a message from my monitor stating that the signal is Out of range.
[23:25:02] <jarray522> Triskelios: However, startx gives me a blank screen with no mouse.
[23:25:09] <Triskelios> what's the log say, now?
[23:25:20] <jarray522> Is there any way to kill X11?
[23:25:27] <jarray522> other than ssh
[23:25:41] <jarray522> ssh ing into the machine and killing X
[23:26:13] <Triskelios> not by default, unless you enabled virtual consoles beforehand
[23:26:19] <Triskelios> http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+vconsole/WebHome
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[23:28:55] <jarray522> http://dpaste.com/568054/
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[23:32:59] <Guest74554> I have been trying to recreate oi_48 server from source , so far I have been able to build pkg , onnv and sfw on oi_48. Are these consolidations enough to build a iso installer (text only)
[23:35:34] <Triskelios> Guest74554: not unless you drop some packages from the server_install manifest
[23:38:03] <jarray522> Triskelios: Any more suggestions?
[23:38:28] <Triskelios> jarray522: was it using 1024x768 in Fedora?
[23:40:12] <jarray522> Not completely sure, but I believe so.
[23:40:18] <Triskelios> actually... maybe the blank screen is just because of something up with the X session startx runs. try 'startx xterm'
[23:42:51] <jarray522> Triskelios: Same effect.
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[23:45:41] <jarray522> Any other suggestions?
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[23:48:48] <Triskelios> jarray522: don't suppose you have a copy of the log from Fedora?
[23:49:45] <jarray522> Triskelios: Unfortunately, no.
[23:50:04] <jarray522> I could try a live CD.
[23:52:30] <Triskelios> the only thing we can try changing now is the video mode, on the assumption that there's still something wrong with the current one since other than that the driver appears to be fine. with the correct driver working you can program in any video mode (within the limited range of the chip)
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[23:55:07] <jarray522> Triskelios: Is there a way to use something like DTrace to figure out what's happening?
[23:55:27] <Triskelios> not really
[23:55:40] <Triskelios> the software side is happy
[23:57:18] <jarray522> So, the best solution is to wait for the Matrox card?
[23:58:57] <jarray522> I'll reinstall Solaris just in case the installation was faulty.
[23:59:05] <jarray522> Triskelios: Thanks for all your help.
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