[00:00:18] <tsoome> well, unless you have multiple IP's configured on that bonding
[00:00:19] <sergefonville> that I understand and makes perfect sense, but my problem for now is, why can't I ping the machine
[00:00:22] <richlowe> regarding LACP, yes there are special control frames.
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[00:02:21] <sergefonville> if I disable lacp on the aggr, what impact will that have on the load balancing and the failover?
[00:02:22] <no7> I figured out what was wrong with the install.
[00:03:12] <sergefonville> what was it?
[00:03:48] <no7> OpenIndiana
[00:04:15] <sergefonville> was that what was wrong with the install???
[00:04:49] <no7> 3 different machines, physical hardware kernel panic on boot for one, complaints that /usr/ was missing on another and no RAID support on the one that the installer would actually load on.
[00:04:54] <no7> =|
[00:05:18] <no7> I think this is all a clever ploy by Oracle to push people away from F/OSS.
[00:05:28] <raichoo> O_o
[00:05:37] <no7> And yes, the md5sum checked out for the iso.
[00:05:40] <sergefonville> hahaha
[00:05:43] <no7> </rant>
[00:05:56] <raichoo> Maybe buy decent hardware? :P
[00:06:07] <raichoo> Installed on my thinkpad without any issues.
[00:06:17] <no7> raichoo: I have fairly decent hardware.
[00:06:24] <richlowe> "complaints that /usr was missing" sound like the media failed to mount the miniroot
[00:06:26] <sergefonville> I used a couple of boxes that were bought to run linux
[00:06:37] <richlowe> unclear on the panic, would need the details.
[00:06:39] <sergefonville> and they run oi without problems
[00:06:47] <raichoo> no7: I did install the software an several systems. had no problem at all.
[00:06:58] <richlowe> no7: did you save the details of the panic?
[00:07:02] <richlowe> if so, please file an illumos bug.
[00:07:04] <no7> Dell Core Duo, Dell Optiplex and a Compaq (This one is debatable)
[00:07:14] <no7> richlowe: Save them where?
[00:07:18] <no7> To the CD?
[00:07:21] <richlowe> write 'em down, or whatever.
[00:07:34] <richlowe> people often take photos of the panic message, in fact :)
[00:07:38] <no7> I'd love to put someone was kind enough to have the system reboot itself about 1 second after the panic.
[00:07:48] <raichoo> no7: Boot with -k
[00:07:59] <raichoo> That will drop you into the kerneldebugger when things fail.
[00:08:05] <no7> kk
[00:08:06] <no7> brb
[00:08:31] <tsoome> it can be the OI is not happy with cd drive. if you have some usb drive or something, test with it
[00:08:56] <no7> fwiw, Solaris 10 came upa nd installed perfectly on all three systems, but who wants Solaris 10? =|
[00:09:15] <richlowe> including the "RAID support" bit?
[00:09:24] <no7> Tried two different jump drives with the USB image and three different CD-ROMs with the iso.
[00:09:50] <no7> richlowe: Used an IDE drive to avoid that, but I don't want OI on an IDE.
[00:10:13] <no7> seriously brb now
[00:10:27] <tsoome> check if the systems have latest bios:P
[00:10:59] <richlowe> tsoome: know of any common HBAs we outright don't support?
[00:11:04] <richlowe> I can't come up with any.
[00:11:58] <tsoome> no idea, i'm really not playing with pc hardware if its not from sun; my only exp is with hp servers and thats not about good memories:D
[00:12:32] <tsoome> things like hp specific drivers you need to add and so on...
[00:12:33] <tsoome> .D
[00:15:19] <no7> heh
[00:16:14] <no7> I wasn't being before but now I am going to be mean, I am going to go install SCO and come back here and scream about how even SCO would install.
[00:16:18] <no7> j/k
[00:17:24] <tsoome> :P
[00:17:33] <tsoome> did you check the bios?:P
[00:18:28] <richlowe> if the system panicked, -k _should_ have brought you into the debugger afterward.
[00:18:34] <no7> Oh, it is picky about where you place the boot time switches.
[00:18:39] <richlowe> if the system rebooted anyway, that's a compleet bitch to debug.
[00:19:43] <no7> Sorry, Unix annoys the crap out of me sometimes. I'm not that good with it and I need the practice, I am just really irritated and feel like someone has given me a couple hits of acid and thrown me infront of something that defies most of what I know from Linux.
[00:19:59] <no7> I'm really not trying to be an ass, it's just been 3 days of trying to get this thing to install.
[00:20:14] <tsoome> welcome to the pc hell:P
[00:20:37] <no7> I've just got accustomed to Debian, I'm pretty sure if I hooked a CD-ROM up to my microwave, it'd boot.
[00:21:03] <sickness> eheheh
[00:21:18] <tsoome> sure, you can always just stay with it;)
[00:21:23] <tomww> oh, we love the acid because it's the same type for 20 years now. always compatible :-)
[00:26:00] <sergefonville> I keep getting dhcp errors for my aggr interface
[00:34:41] <no7> Two things came from Berkley, LSD and BSD.,
[00:34:44] <no7> Coincidence?
[00:35:14] <no7> Also, I just tried booting again and now my daughter is pregnant and my wife left me.
[00:35:24] <tsoome> lol
[00:36:57] <sergefonville> is there any network error logging in oi?
[00:37:13] <tsoome> network error logging?
[00:37:33] <no7> console=ttya,ttya-mode="9600,8,n,1,-"
[00:37:39] <no7> Will that work as expect on OI?
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[00:37:52] <sergefonville> yeah, for example errors when sending network packets
[00:38:13] <sergefonville> since it does not yet make sense that I can't ping the system at the aggr interface
[00:38:27] <tsoome> fix your link.
[00:38:27] <sergefonville> I understand if lacp would not work
[00:38:41] <sergefonville> what should I do then
[00:38:46] <sergefonville> i plumbed
[00:39:01] <sergefonville> show-ether, show-if. show-link all say its up
[00:39:53] <tsoome> snoop -d interface
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[00:40:41] <tsoome> check the switch side - does it get the arp entries etc
[00:41:49] <tsoome> does yoursystem show entries in arp -a
[00:43:39] <sergefonville> three entries
[00:43:43] <sergefonville> all for aggr
[00:43:48] <sergefonville> two are multicast
[00:43:57] <sergefonville> the first is the assigned ip
[00:44:51] <tsoome> well thats because other systems cant see your system
[00:45:16] <tsoome> if you snoop and ping it, you probably wont see any incoming packets as well
[00:45:45] <tsoome> (or else you would have entries in arp)
[00:46:10] <tsoome> unless your netmask is off...
[00:47:32] <sergefonville> when I snoop the physical interface instead of the aggr
[00:47:38] <sergefonville> I see a lot of messages
[00:48:03] <tsoome> so, your aggregation setup is broken
[00:48:33] <sergefonville> what do I do to troubleshoot
[00:48:39] <sergefonville> the switch is dumb
[00:48:57] <tsoome> so, it can or can not do LACP?
[00:49:10] <sergefonville> it cannot
[00:49:21] <tsoome> then you cant use aggregation at all
[00:49:22] <sergefonville> is that the reason I cannot ping it?
[00:49:27] <tsoome> as explained before
[00:50:07] <sergefonville> I was hoping I could ping it anyway...
[00:50:16] <sergefonville> and finish config over ssh
[00:50:17] <tsoome> remove aggregation, plumb interfaces and assign group name for both (same name) with ifconfig interface group name
[00:51:04] <tsoome> nope, aggregation needs lacp, and if its not there, it wont work.
[00:51:40] <sergefonville> does ipmp perform just as reliable?
[00:52:34] <tsoome> yes, but ipmp will do load balancing only gor outgoing connections (unless you have multiple ip)
[00:53:45] <sergefonville> do you know the difference between static and lacp in regards to link aggregation
[00:57:32] <tsoome> well static does imply on static distribution;)
[00:58:04] <tsoome> but its not really the point at all.
[00:58:36] <tsoome> the whole question with aggregation is how the switch will know where it should send the packet
[00:59:08] <tsoome> as you have 1-1 relation with ip and ethernet address.
[00:59:30] <tsoome> (normally, that is).
[01:01:57] <sergefonville> how do I disable auto negotiation?
[01:02:35] <tsoome> .oO why you need to do that?
[01:02:57] <tsoome> with ndd on interface.
[01:03:14] <sergefonville> because 3com help says I need to do that to use lacp
[01:04:06] <sergefonville> its a 3com switch...
[01:04:19] <tsoome> uh
[01:05:09] <tsoome> what nic you have?
[01:06:11] <tsoome> or to be exact, what names you see with dladm show-phys
[01:11:43] <sergefonville> e1000g0-3 and aggr0-1
[01:12:13] <tsoome> man e1000g then, you can set autoneg with both conf file and with ndd
[01:12:53] <tsoome> conf file is static and will be preserved, but needs reboot or modunload to get effective
[01:15:40] <sergefonville> I setup the switch to lacp the ports and they are connected 1000M/f, but I still can't ping it
[01:18:32] <tsoome> you probably need to make sure both switch and host are using same lacp setup
[01:21:18] <sergefonville> how stupid :P
[01:21:25] <sergefonville> the oi CD wass still in there
[01:21:32] <sergefonville> so it booted instead of the harddisk
[01:21:43] <sergefonville> and so the IP was unavailable
[01:22:42] <sergefonville> awesome, it works :D
[01:22:46] <tsoome> :P
[01:22:49] <sergefonville> i can SSH again
[01:23:02] <sergefonville> soome, you're the best :D
[01:23:12] <sergefonville> thank you very much
[01:23:13] <tsoome> you are welcome
[01:23:29] <tsoome> anyhow, sleep time for me:P
[01:23:51] <sergefonville> sleep well, Tsoome
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[01:33:14] <Bahman> Is there a pinentry program for gtk? How do you folks use enigmail+tbird?
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[01:45:20] <alanc> it seems to pop up a pinentry program when I need to put in my pgp key
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[01:50:02] <richlowe> alanc: have you ever had the curses one _work_?
[01:50:16] <richlowe> I get black-on-black and the input offset by (I guess) terminfo badness.
[01:50:29] <richlowe> I mean, it functions, if you already know what the blank screen actually means.
[01:50:36] <alanc> never seen it, only the gui
[01:50:48] <richlowe> Guess I should have expected you to be running X :)
[01:51:20] <Bahman> alanc: For me it only pops up an error dialog saying that there is no pinentry program.
[01:51:33] <richlowe> sec.
[01:51:38] <alanc> heh, well I really only use pgp via tbird+enigmail when sending release announcements to x.org
[01:52:09] <richlowe> Yeah, it works for me, now I have a $DISPLAY
[01:52:14] <richlowe> though I'm not using enigmail, just gpg2 -d
[01:52:24] <Bahman> Did you use a special package? I really don't like to fallback to evolution.
[01:52:40] <Bahman> richlowe: $DISPLAY = 0:0 ?
[01:53:00] <alanc> looks like it's getting /usr/lib/pinentry-gtk-2 from the gpg2 package for me (but I'm on s11x, not OI)
[01:53:31] <alanc> sorry, package name is gnupg, includes the gpg2 command
[01:54:08] <Bahman> alanc: I have that installed. I have to mess with it a bit more. Thanks.
[01:54:29] <richlowe> Possibly enigmail expects GPG 1.x?
[01:54:36] <richlowe> I know I did. :|
[01:56:32] <alanc> oh, hrm, I guess it is finding gpg off an NFS server instead of the locally installed gpg2
[02:01:45] <Bahman> Ah...(sigh)
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[02:18:46] <Bahman> AFAIU I can only install multimedia codecs using Fluendo. Is it right?
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[02:35:20] <tomww> not 100%
[02:35:55] <Bahman> tomww: I don't see gstreamer plugins in package repos.
[02:36:48] <tomww> if you brwose the SFE repositories you find some multimedia stuff
[02:37:13] <tomww> and maybe you get happ with SFEmplayer or SFEvlc
[02:37:52] <Bahman> tomww: SFE?
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[02:44:26] <tomww> SFE is a repository of files in RPM style used to compile the software yourself.
[02:44:45] <tomww> smrt: explain spec-files-extra
[02:44:45]
<smrt> ⌂ A collection of popular software which is not in OpenSolaris. The SFE project ports software using RPM-style spec files. See also: bootstrap-sfe-latest-, pkgbuild. http://wong.to/sfewiki for more info, including installation instructions.
[02:45:54] <tomww> there are several project building binary packages and provide them in IPS repositories
[02:46:08] <Bahman> tomww: I got it.
[02:46:11] <Bahman> Thanks.
[02:46:29] <tomww> always welcome
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[02:55:51] <lennard> does anyone know how to prevent some module from loading?
[02:56:09] <lennard> I have 2 sound devices and stuff always picks the wrong one :P
[03:04:50] <richlowe> you can do it in /etc/system (see the comments in the file)
[03:07:48] <lennard> right, thanks
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[03:58:54] <sergefonville> do I need to set the DISPLAY variable each time manually when I use x11lforwarding?
[03:59:52] <Bahman> Going to bed...
[04:00:01] <Bahman> See you all later.
[04:00:05] <sergefonville> sleep tight
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[04:06:32] <sergefonville> figured it out, xauth was missing
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[04:17:55] <cruisereg> can anyone help with basic boot issues?
[04:24:30] <sergefonville> start with adding -k to the boot line
[04:24:41] <sergefonville> what is the symptom of the issue?
[04:25:17] <cruisereg> ok - the boot gets up to the copyright notice and sits forever\
[04:25:35] <cruisereg> what does -k do? verbose boot?
[04:26:01] <richlowe> Loads the debugger
[04:26:11] <cruisereg> ah, ok
[04:26:14] <richlowe> Ideally, you should be able to press F1-a and drop into it
[04:26:28] <richlowe> but it often has issues with USB keyboards.
[04:26:41] <cruisereg> which is all I have unfortunately
[04:27:00] <cruisereg> this is DL320 G5
[04:27:21] <richlowe> Hm, I think someone else in here is using one of those mostly successfully.
[04:27:49] <cruisereg> if I can get into the debugger, I assume I'd want to get a backtrace?
[04:28:06] <richlowe> Kind of depends.
[04:28:24] <richlowe> Another thing to try is to boot with '-kvd', which is verbose, and drops into the debugger immediately.
[04:28:30] <cruisereg> also, as a side note, I had an old ubuntu cd laying around and it booted/loaded successfully
[04:28:49] <richlowe> once it drops into the debugger, 'moddebug/W 80000000', 'prom_debug/W 1', 'snooping/W 1', ':c'
[04:29:14] <richlowe> when it hangs, wait a minute and hope that the deaman timer brings you back to the debugger.
[04:29:51] <richlowe> (moddebug, and prom_debug turn on verbosity, and some debugging prints during module load, and early boot)
[04:30:26] <richlowe> if _that_ doesn't help, if you set that set moddebug setting, up with '1' as the last digit, it'll drop to the debugger immediately before loading each module, and might let you pin it down to a specific module (':c' continues from the debugger)
[04:31:16] <cruisereg> ok
[04:33:19] <cruisereg> I need to jump on another irc client, this stupid one made an auto-smiley face for the continues from the debugger command
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[04:38:35] <reginald> richlowe: can you resend your last message?
[04:45:21] <richlowe> :c
[04:45:28] <richlowe> Is continue
[04:45:35] <richlowe> (I'm guessing the rest was legibile?)
[04:46:13] <reginald> it is, thx
[04:46:39] <reginald> I'll give this a shot in a few mins
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[05:23:14] <cruisereg> ok, -kvd shows my boot hanging at "installing isa, module id 22."
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[09:00:31] <jaquer> Currently on Debian Linux for my very small file server. Want to move to a Solaris derivative, and use napp-it for the GUI. I'm having such a hard time making this decision: Solaris Express, OpenIndiana or NexentaCore. I realize this chan might be biased, but I'm hoping I can get some pointers re: differences between the versions.
[09:01:42] <bdha> Solaris Express is not free.
[09:01:50] <jaquer> I would like the most streamlined version, if that helps. The Linux userland in Nexenta is not necessarily relevant for me.
[09:01:58] <bdha> OpenIndiana is free and napp-it works on it, I think.
[09:02:06] <jaquer> bdha: I understood it was, for personal use?
[09:02:11] <bdha> NexenCore is sort of a weird beast. It uses Ubuntu rebuilds for packaging.
[09:02:26] <bdha> jaquer: No. It's free for dev or pre-prod, "personal use" doesn't come into it.
[09:02:30] <jaquer> napp-it definitely works on OI.
[09:02:40] <bdha> The likelihood of you being sued is small, but take from that what you will.
[09:02:46] * bdha would recommend OI.
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[09:09:22] <jaquer> Wow, Solaris is $1K/year.
[09:09:33] <taemun> if you want support, yes
[09:09:33] <jaquer> <- obviously not an enterprise user :)
[09:09:47] <taemun> OI is probably what you want
[09:09:47] <jaquer> Well, I don't care for support, just need a license.
[09:10:09] <jaquer> It sure looks that way.
[09:10:29] <jaquer> (re: OI being what I need)
[09:10:53] <jaquer> I already installed OI to a flash drive, but it was painfully slow to boot.
[09:11:11] <taemun> USB flash drives come in varieties other than fast
[09:11:23] <jaquer> I'm sure it had to do with the SD card I used though, no fault of the OS.
[09:11:31] <taemun> besides, it's a server, it shouldn't need to boot often
[09:11:52] <taemun> (also, was it booting to X or just to a command line?)
[09:12:14] <jaquer> Right. I was mostly booting from it to se if #1: my hardware was supported and #2: I could import a Linux ZFS-FUSE pool into it.
[09:12:34] <taemun> urgh, zfs-fuse can be a bit special
[09:12:43] <jaquer> Just to command line. I used the server ISO
[09:12:47] <taemun> right
[09:12:55] <taemun> that SD card must be terrible :P
[09:13:19] <jaquer> It is. I just needed a (relatively painless) way to transfer all my files from the Linux side to ZFS.
[09:13:37] <jaquer> I'm sure it is. But I didn't have any large enough USB drives handy.
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[09:33:41] <jaquer> gea_: Heya, aren't you the developer of napp-it?
[09:34:19] <dkeav> yes
[09:34:30] <jaquer> I thought the name looked familiar. :)
[09:42:15] <jaquer> OK, last question for the night. I have user-grade hardware, AMD Athlon X2 2.5GHz, 2GB of RAM. I don't plan on using deduplication or encryption. Would this be sufficient?
[09:43:32] <dkeav> for just plain ole zfs?
[09:43:38] <dkeav> more than sufficient
[09:44:15] <jaquer> Nice. Thanks again for the help.
[09:44:59] <dkeav> my pleasure
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[11:18:03] <Serge_> good morning
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[11:18:59] <sergefonville> how do I troubleshoot if nginx gives an error about hardware capabaility when I start it?
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[14:05:05] <Bahman> Hi all!
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[15:24:05] <RoyK> hi, Bahman
[15:24:18] <RoyK> bug 1178 should be fixed before release imho
[15:24:43] <RoyK> !bug 1178
[15:24:49] <RoyK> hm
[15:25:03] <Bahman> richlowe: I managed to fix Enigmail problem, if you're still interested.
[15:26:00] <RoyK> what's Enigmail? (btw, a bit fun, 'enig' means 'agree' or 'agreed' in Norwegian)
[15:27:10] <tsoome> honeypot for spam?:P
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[15:34:46] <Bahman> RoyK: GPG plugin for thunderbird.
[15:35:12] <RoyK> k
[15:35:41] <tsoome> ag, so the name is hint for enigma afterall:D
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[17:01:34] <jaimef> is there anyway to save volume controls settings across reboots?
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[17:03:56] <jaimef> audioctl set-control beep 0 # without this X beeps at full volume out massive speakers :P
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[17:40:57] <Bahman> jaimef: audictl save-controls perhaps
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[17:49:51] <jaimef> just hardcoded this to bootup
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[17:54:13] <bigreg> anyone around that can help with boot issues?
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[17:58:29] <bigreg> my box (HP DL320 G5) hangs during what appears to be module loading, last few lines (booting with -kvd):
[17:59:00] <bigreg> load 'drv/isa' id 22 loaded @ bighex/bighex size 14656/1288
[17:59:08] <bigreg> installing isa, module id 22.
[18:20:09] <RoyK> you know a server is old when some of the cron jobs haven't been updated since 1999
[18:20:27] <bigreg> very true
[18:21:22] <RoyK> just retired this old linux machine from 2005 or so
[18:21:52] <bigreg> replace it with anything cool?
[18:21:56] <RoyK> dead slow storage and and a slow cpu - it took 5 hours to rsync the data to the new one
[18:22:28] <RoyK> some apps rely on posix ACLs, so using OI was somewhat out of the question
[18:25:34] <sergefonville> .
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[18:40:25] <tsoome> you can always use ufs for posic acl
[18:40:34] <tsoome> posix*
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[18:44:06] <RoyK> tsoome: as in using a zvol with ufs?
[18:44:39] <tsoome> that will do, or just slice:P
[18:49:02] <tsoome> well, zvol seems to do just fine:)
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<viq> (all on openindiana build 148) I am trying to run postgres in a zone, installed the postgres-84 package, svcadm enable svc:/application/database/postgresql_84:default_64bit works the first time, but on subsequent times it gives errors: http://pastie.org/2159146 Any hints?
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[19:23:37] <richlowe> Would need the actual postgres log to find out why all the processes were exiting.
[19:24:07] <richlowe> the log is just saying "postgres exited, so the service is down", the message from the "stop" method is just us trying to stop a postgres that's not really running.
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[19:24:34] <viq> Yeah, someone told me to look there, and I made a typo in postgres config. Thanks.
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[19:40:34] * bigreg is trying to boot eon-0.599-129-64-cifs
[19:40:57] <bigreg> bah
[19:41:29] <bigreg> stops in the same spot as every other attempt
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[20:07:19] <RoyK> &wub 14
[20:17:26] <zynox> I want to migrate my oi box to some new hardware, I was going to just plug the drive in and turn my rpool into mirrored across both drives then take the other drive out and put it in the new box. Will this work?
[20:25:06] <tsoome> you probably need to rebuild the boot_archive as well
[20:26:54] <zynox> firstly, how do I make rpool mirrored with a new drive? I tried "zpool attach rpool c2t4d0 c2t5d0", "c2t4d0" being my old drive and "c2t5d0" being the new drive
[20:27:41] <zynox> oh, the error is related to the older partition on the drive
[20:28:02] <zynox> how do I prepare the drive for zfs mirror?
[20:28:10] <tsoome> your rpool cant be c2t4d0
[20:28:25] <tsoome> its just not possible:P
[20:28:34] <zynox> c2t4d0s0
[20:29:27] <tsoome> that one I believe. format -> partition and create s0 starting from 1 (if s8 is exactly 1 cylinder)
[20:30:51] <zynox> hmm, I can use -f to override the errors from the attach and it will sort the drive out?
[20:31:25] <tsoome> only error you are allowed to have is overlapping with s2
[20:31:36] <tsoome> and that you can force
[20:40:46] <zynox> ahh, think I done it thanks
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[21:55:23] <Hedonista> is there a way to migrate from solaris 11 to oi151 w/o a complete install?
[21:55:41] <Hedonista> or w/o losing the solaris 11 install
[21:56:06] <Hedonista> nevermind
[21:59:33] <tsoome> there is none. because pool version in s11
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[22:00:34] <tsoome> only way to get it is to install b134, create be from it for OI and second be for s11...
[22:00:46] <Hedonista> ok thank you tsoome
[22:01:13] <tsoome> and make sure you have lots of disk space and dont upgrade pool too high:P
[22:01:17] <Hedonista> im better off tarring what i want to keep anyway
[22:03:35] <Bahman> Anyone noted that FF is not following font config of Gnome?
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[22:58:49] <sergefonville> anyone have nginx running on oi?
[23:03:40] <Bahman> Oh! Already answered :-)
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[23:21:07] <sergefonville> how would I build my own package so I can install and uninstall using pkg
[23:21:38] <sergefonville> i tried installing nginx from webstack, but got an error about hardware capability
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[23:36:55] <tomww> sergefonville: there is no uptodate webstack anymore IIRC
[23:37:52] <tomww> you can use the packages from the SFE project, there is SFEnginx.spec which is used to compile the stuff and then make a package in your local IPS package server
[23:38:19] <richlowe> or use whatever pre-existing repo there is?
[23:38:22] <richlowe> or did they all vanish?
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