June 30, 2011 
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June 30, 2011 [00:01:48] *** held has joined #openindiana[00:05:25] <raichoo> PMT: I've been programming for nearly 20 years now. It's a pleasant state of madness :3[00:06:23] <raichoo> Ok, time for bed. cya folks. DeanoC catch you tomorrow.[00:06:25] *** raichoo has quit IRC[00:22:23] *** gev has quit IRC[00:25:40] *** Guest19886 has quit IRC[00:30:20] *** hsp has quit IRC[00:57:46] *** hajma has quit IRC[01:01:37] *** McBofh has quit IRC[01:08:22] *** descipher has quit IRC[01:11:07] *** McBofh has joined #openindiana[01:13:23] *** descipher has joined #openindiana[02:52:58] <wonslung> no, i never got it working. I did get it built but it just crashes when you start it with xmlrpc[02:55:22] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[02:58:52] <dsockwell> I've got nova installed on centos 5.6, and the last instruction in the HOWTO is to start everything using SCREEN. I sort of doubt that this is the setup that's meant to be used in production -- is there any documentation on the right way to keep nova running?[02:59:11] <dsockwell> wrong. channel.[02:59:20] <dsockwell> i'll just be going now[03:03:05] *** ivo_ has quit IRC[03:11:09] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[03:13:01] *** sergefonville has quit IRC[03:13:08] *** master_of_master has joined #openindiana[03:20:02] *** redgone has joined #openindiana[04:24:09] *** baitisj has quit IRC[04:32:24] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[04:42:34] *** Botanic has quit IRC[04:46:59] *** baitisj has joined #openindiana[04:55:32] <baitisj> So, if I move my mouse to the left edge of the screen, and it reappears on the right edge of the screen, does that mean that I have xinerama configured incorrectly?[04:56:00] <baitisj> (#1 monitor is to the left of the main #0 display)[04:57:44] *** McBofh has quit IRC[04:59:33] *** McBofh has joined #openindiana[05:10:58] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[05:11:03] 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#openindiana[09:14:33] *** synegy34 has quit IRC[09:17:56] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[09:18:44] *** alcir has joined #openindiana[09:29:12] *** tsoome has quit IRC[09:31:19] *** Thrae has quit IRC[09:32:26] *** Thrae has joined #openindiana[09:37:27] *** bens1 has joined #openindiana[09:38:50] *** Micr0mega has joined #openindiana[09:42:48] *** merzo has joined #openindiana[09:54:37] *** sivanov_ has joined #openindiana[09:54:37] *** sivanov has quit IRC[10:04:35] <edogawaconan> is installing openindiana to flash disk possible?[10:05:00] <edogawaconan> install, not live usb[10:08:40] *** tsoome has joined #openindiana[10:12:28] *** DeanoC has quit IRC[10:14:03] <Micr0mega> edogawaconan: it is, I installed oi on two usb thumb drives for my home server[10:14:06] *** rascal999 has joined #openindiana[10:14:48] *** DeanoC has joined #openindiana[10:14:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DeanoC[10:17:53] <edogawaconan> is 8gb enough for desktop?[10:18:48] <tsoome> ram? it depends what are you doing:P[10:18:58] <edogawaconan> flash disk, duh :p[10:19:19] <edogawaconan> and I only have 4gb ram[10:19:26] <edogawaconan> should be enough[10:19:39] <edogawaconan> but I'm not sure about installing on 8gb[10:20:00] <tsoome> can do. but for rpool, it again depends, I wouldnt really go below 20GB[10:21:12] <tsoome> altho my rpool is on 18GB hdd[10:21:35] <tsoome> and its possible to live with it - data is on mirrored 146GB ones ....[10:23:09] <Micr0mega> edogawaconan: I use 8gb usb sticks too, it is enough. though I was having a problem with the swap space that was created, as I have 16GB ram. but with 4GB the swap will be 2GB I suppose, so no problem there[10:23:45] *** Whoopsie has joined #openindiana[10:23:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Whoopsie[10:23:48] *** echobinary has joined #openindiana[10:25:19] *** echobinary2 has quit IRC[10:26:41] *** keremet has quit IRC[10:32:21] *** kart_ has quit IRC[10:32:45] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[10:34:09] <Killsudo> In solaris, if you see 'd---------+' permisson on a folder, how do you view the '+'[10:34:43] <tsoome> ls -V or getfacl on older solarises[10:35:14] <Killsudo> I should 'ls -V' also and its what I had in my notes but now it says V isnt a correct switch[10:35:31] <tsoome> well, use real ls, not that gnu crap[10:35:53] <Killsudo> yup... somebody switch'd it to gnu[10:35:59] <Killsudo> I just tried /bin/ls and it worked...[10:36:04] <tsoome> fix your path;)[10:37:35] <Killsudo> whats the easist way to delete a permission from the 'V' switch[10:37:51] <tsoome> chmod[10:37:54] <edogawaconan> I hate acl, can I disable it?[10:37:59] <Killsudo> 'everyone@:-w-p---A-W-Co-:-------:deny ' is junk and blocking access[10:38:07] <tsoome> no you cant[10:38:24] <edogawaconan> :([10:39:30] <Killsudo> http://fpaste.org/qviJ/[10:39:45] <Killsudo> theres the acl list, but those are always the ones I fail to remove[10:40:08] <tsoome> Killsudo: there are a lot of examples in google:)[10:40:43] <Killsudo> yes I still fail, they keep referencing some A[number] variable I dont understand[10:40:58] <tsoome> how to reset ACL (that one might even be in man examples), how to build reasonable default acl for windows shares etc[10:41:55] *** rascal999 has quit IRC[10:42:22] *** jedi4ever has joined #openindiana[10:43:29] *** russiane39 has joined #openindiana[10:47:28] *** edogawaconan has quit IRC[10:49:12] <Killsudo> Yay 'File system doesn't support aclent_t style ACL's.'[10:50:05] <tsoome> what file system it is?[10:51:06] <Killsudo> zfs[10:51:57] <Killsudo> I assume its gotta be 'chmod' style tool[10:52:17] *** russiane39 has quit IRC[10:52:19] *** edogawaconan has joined #openindiana[10:55:53] *** kart_ has quit IRC[10:57:04] <tsoome> ah, you did attemt to use setfacl?[10:57:28] <Killsudo> no its an corrupted inherited permissions from Windows[10:57:28] <tsoome> on zfs, only chmod is usable.[10:57:32] <edogawaconan> apparently two of my hdds are now 45C[10:57:46] <tsoome> and again, beware the gnu[11:01:49] <Killsudo> wtf.. how are index numbers handled[11:02:10] <Killsudo> I run /bin/chmod -R A5- /dir/file[11:02:20] <Killsudo> and instead of dropping the 5th ACL line, it skipped to the 6th[11:02:48] <Killsudo> instead removed my allowed everyone acl and kept the everyone denied acl..[11:05:28] *** nbprashanth has joined #openindiana[11:08:33] *** lkocman has joined #openindiana[11:10:23] *** baitisj has quit IRC[11:13:26] *** Botanic has quit IRC[11:14:09] <Killsudo> Ok I think I got it[11:14:15] * Killsudo *cheers*[11:26:42] *** yalu has quit IRC[11:26:47] *** yalu has joined #openindiana[11:43:32] <scarcry> tomww: ping[11:47:41] *** Wilbs has joined #openindiana[12:10:43] *** buffyg has quit IRC[12:11:27] *** hajma has quit IRC[12:13:11] *** syoyo has joined #openindiana[12:16:08] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[12:18:23] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[12:29:14] *** xmikus01 has joined #openindiana[12:40:04] *** hsp has joined #openindiana[12:40:34] *** syoyo has quit IRC[12:50:57] <tomww> I do not answer pings without subject, sorry :)[12:51:53] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[12:54:21] *** edogawaconan has quit IRC[12:54:49] *** rascal999 has joined #openindiana[12:55:16] <rascal999> is there a php-cli package or equivalent for openindiana?[12:58:35] *** taemun has quit IRC[12:59:15] *** taemun has joined #openindiana[12:59:48] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[12:59:54] *** edogawaconan has joined #openindiana[13:01:03] *** DerSaidin has quit IRC[13:01:15] *** DerSaidin has joined #openindiana[13:11:03] *** hajma has quit IRC[13:11:59] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[13:20:19] *** DrLou has joined #openindiana[13:20:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrLou[13:23:03] *** kforbz has joined #openindiana[13:40:38] *** McBofh has quit IRC[13:42:15] *** McBofh has joined #openindiana[13:50:39] *** syoyo_ has joined #openindiana[13:51:45] *** held has quit IRC[13:51:51] *** nbprashanth has quit IRC[14:08:56] *** held has joined #openindiana[14:22:39] *** Fritjof has joined #openindiana[14:24:44] *** alcir has quit IRC[14:27:53] <rascal999> is there a port of ffmpeg for solaris?[14:28:31] <Woodstock> i have it installed from pkgsrc[14:36:30] <rascal999> Woodstock: pfexec pkg search ffmpeg yields no results[14:37:46] <quasi> blastwave has one also[14:38:07] <Woodstock> as i said, i have it from pkgsrc. thats a completely different thing.[14:44:58] *** Wilbs has quit IRC[14:45:43] <rascal999> http://staticdev.uk.openindiana.org:10002/en/search.shtml?token=ffmpeg&action=Search How do I use p5i files?[14:48:14] *** Shoggoth has left #openindiana[14:49:06] *** Fritjof has quit IRC[14:55:17] *** POloser has left #openindiana[14:59:33] *** hajma has quit IRC[15:00:34] *** xmikus01 has quit IRC[15:02:36] <zhanglu9> hello everybody[15:03:05] <rascal999> how do i install .pkg files?[15:03:43] <zhanglu9> when I run "scp user at remote dot host:/file .", I got error saying "ssh: remote.host: node name or service name not known"[15:03:56] <zhanglu9> remote.host can be resolved when run nslookup[15:04:23] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[15:04:47] <lblume> zhanglu9: check your /etc/nsswitch.conf file, and test with getent hosts, not nslookup[15:05:36] <zhanglu9> you are right, thank you[15:05:40] *** sivanov_ has quit IRC[15:06:05] *** sivanov_ has joined #openindiana[15:06:24] <miine> rascal999: use pkg set-publisher -O http://staticdev.uk.openindiana.org:10002 staticdev ; pkg install ffmpeg[15:07:36] <miine> rascal999: as you can't install single packages. these might have dependencies on other packages the publisher provides...[15:07:56] <zhanglu9> lblume: since you answered my question, I have another one :-)[15:08:03] <miine> rascal999: so for IPS packages the rule is to set a publisher...[15:08:04] <zhanglu9> I am using kerberos auth[15:08:36] <zhanglu9> where to get "ksu" if it exists on openindiana[15:09:58] <rascal999> miine: One or more of the repository origin(s) listed below contains package data for oi-sfe; not staticdev:[15:09:59] *** xmikus01 has joined #openindiana[15:10:34] <lblume> Sorry, I don't do Kerberos :-)[15:10:48] <miine> rascal999: as you seem to be a new bie: be smart and create a new Boot environment and activate it BEFORE doing that stuff, so you can happily shoot yourself into your knees ;-)[15:11:53] <miine> rascal999: so replace staticdev with oi-sfe (the publisher given on the main page)[15:12:04] <zhanglu9> ok :-( we have many things running on application ID which requires key auth from remote. so "sudo" does not work on those[15:12:26] <miine> rascal999: but that doesn't really matter as you can name the repositories at your will...[15:14:51] *** synegy34 has joined #openindiana[15:15:44] *** hajma has quit IRC[15:17:50] <rascal999> miine: ok I've created a new BE, now I can set-publisher?[15:18:22] <miine> rascal999: activate it and reboot. then you can go on...[15:19:21] <miine> rascal999: if anything serious got messed up: reboot and select the old be from within the grub menu (or activate the old BE...)[15:20:17] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #openindiana[15:20:22] <miine> rascal999: you can also try to create a zone and install the stuff inside it. makes live a lot easier...[15:21:03] <miine> rascal999: as you can have different publishers for the same packages (but different versions/compile options etc.) in different zones.[15:22:06] <miine> rascal999: I would recommend that if unsure that some installed packages contents might be overwritten by the new publishers ones...[15:24:32] <rascal999> miine: i'm booted into the new BE and I set the publisher, but ffmpeg still not found[15:25:31] <miine> rascal999: sorry. you have to do a pkg install SFEffmpeg ...[15:26:59] <rascal999> miine: that worked, thanks[15:29:30] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[15:31:45] *** redgone has joined #openindiana[15:36:41] *** dekar has quit IRC[15:57:48] *** Worsoe has quit IRC[16:02:56] *** kart_ has quit IRC[16:04:03] *** kart_ has joined #openindiana[16:06:45] 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parted is in http://paste.lisp.org/display/123049[17:16:14] *** mnaser has joined #openindiana[17:17:00] <mnaser> i know this is a bit of biased question to ask but i'll do it anyways.. if i want to use ZFS only, at the moment, is openindiana > nexentacore?[17:17:10] <mnaser> i can't really find any online comparisions[17:17:45] <tsoome> what zpool version nexenta got?[17:18:37] <tsoome> if the versions are same, then it shouldnt be much difference[17:19:15] <mnaser> hmm my test machine is off so i can't check that right now[17:19:39] *** bens1 has quit IRC[17:20:08] <tsoome> rest is userland difference anyhow - as nexenta is built on debian mostly[17:21:09] <mnaser> it seemed really confusing to me (i'm new to all this) and it really seems to be neither real solaris or full out ubuntu[17:21:56] <tsoome> I have never felt the need for it, cant really comment.[17:22:46] <mnaser> have you ran openindiana in production?[17:23:04] <tsoome> nope, we have only s10 in production[17:23:53] <tsoome> cant really play with clusters and larger databases in other setups:)[17:24:31] <mnaser> i see, i'm running this on commodity h/w and solaris is big $$ now :([17:26:44] <tsoome> from my own experience the opensolaris based builds have been quite stable, but ...[17:29:09] <mnaser> no worries, i understand you can't write me up a paper and sign it assuring that :p[17:29:56] <tsoome> well, free software is free software - if you cant afford to pay for support, yu have to support it yourself. and sometimes there will be some setbacks.[17:30:41] <mnaser> i understand that a 100%! honestly nexentacore has been fine, however, i'm just iffy on it's future when it's in the hands of a commercial organization[17:31:09] *** Shadow__X has joined #openindiana[17:31:15] <tsoome> nexenta is managed by commertial organization as well;)[17:34:11] <DeanoC> openindiana is on a new core than nextentacore at the moment[17:34:23] <DeanoC> so its had more bug fixes if nothing else[17:35:23] <Wraithh> Nexenta has some custom patches they made[17:37:05] *** longcat has joined #openindiana[17:38:14] *** jedi4ever has quit IRC[17:38:50] <DeanoC> yep but they've fed a fair few of the core into illumos which oi151 is also based as its also what nexenta 4 is based on[17:39:07] <DeanoC> both oi and nextenta future is illumos[17:39:31] <Wraithh> that's super cool[17:40:35] <DeanoC> yep nextenta are a major (main?) funders of illumos, which oi would be stuffed about, so nexteta are very good guys, buy there stuff if its fits your budget and needs :D[17:40:52] <DeanoC> about=without([17:41:04] <DeanoC> sure my brain / keyboard interface is buggy ;)[17:41:13] <mnaser> lol[17:41:27] <mnaser> but nexentacore 4 has been in the talks for a reaaaaally long time[17:41:45] <Wraithh> It's just that their $$$/TB isn't really compatible with bulk storage :/[17:41:54] <DeanoC> they have issues a tech preview at a show[17:42:42] <mnaser> i see[17:42:53] <DeanoC> not a nextenta employee or user so don't know much more than that they do ALOT of work on illumos which is awesome for oi :)[17:43:07] <mnaser> no problem, i understand[17:44:52] <mnaser> the current release of OI doesn't seem to use illumos[17:45:23] <DeanoC> oi151 does[17:45:30] <DeanoC> whchi is very close to release[17:46:03] <DeanoC> i'm already using it on a production system[17:46:28] <DeanoC> it will be our first 'stable' issue hopefully by the end of the month (okay next month ;) )[17:46:52] <mnaser> could i go from oi151 to the release easily afterwards?[17:47:09] <DeanoC> yep u can go from the current version to any future ones[17:47:17] <DeanoC> forward compat is taken very srsly[17:47:30] <DeanoC> you can go from opensolaris as well[17:48:01] <mnaser> i'm not running any solaris at the moment as i'm still testing, looking to use solaris for a storage system[17:48:09] <mnaser> i only need zfs+comstar for iscsi[17:48:21] <DeanoC> then any of the oi will do that nicely[17:48:47] *** Reepicheep has joined #openindiana[17:48:49] *** Reepicheep_ has joined #openindiana[17:49:09] <Wraithh> DeanoC, do you know if the nfs4 issue with leaking openowner objects has been fixed in 151?[17:49:35] *** Reepicheep has quit IRC[17:49:35] *** Reepicheep_ has quit IRC[17:49:43] <DeanoC> Wraithh: don't know sorry has it got a bug number on the illumos bug db[17:49:55] *** Reepicheep has joined #openindiana[17:50:00] <Wraithh> Dunno, but jkj knows about it[17:50:01] <Wraithh> jkj, ping[17:58:18] <mnaser> http://pkgsrc-repo.uk.openindiana.org/reports/last/report.html -- is that number slowly going to move down to zero as OI does work or is that something that's normal[17:59:30] <Woodstock> take a look at the date[18:00:15] <mnaser> so I guess a new rebuild is pending soon or so, i was just thinking if eventually i'd have some side time to help out fix packages[18:01:47] <DeanoC> i think the ideal is that it heads to zero-ish given its a pretty big group, there may always be a few[18:01:48] <Woodstock> i suggest you set up a bulk build yourself first :)[18:02:19] <DeanoC> there is also sfw which has an ips repo as well for some packages[18:02:20] <Woodstock> at least thats what i intend to do[18:02:46] <Woodstock> i have no idea where and how imil and worsoe built the packages, i havent seen them in two months[18:03:08] <mnaser> hmm, i do have a lot of computing power that I could use for such things[18:03:14] <mnaser> but looks like a build took 6 days or so[18:03:48] <Woodstock> i don't know what kind of build machine they had[18:04:26] <mnaser> well building 6000 packages is bound to take time regardless of hw[18:04:40] <Woodstock> yea[18:04:58] *** InTheWings has joined #openindiana[18:05:00] *** Shadow__X has quit IRC[18:05:00] *** Shadow__X has joined #openindiana[18:11:28] *** rascal999 has quit IRC[18:12:09] *** redgone has quit IRC[18:12:39] *** lewellyn has quit IRC[18:42:51] *** merzo has quit IRC[18:43:22] *** hajma has quit IRC[18:53:12] *** lkocman has quit IRC[19:01:29] 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I haven't encountered any problems with the patch[19:28:06] *** Botanic has quit IRC[19:28:21] *** Naresh has joined #openindiana[19:29:11] *** sergefonville has joined #openindiana[19:36:14] *** ThothCrimson has joined #openindiana[19:36:35] *** held has quit IRC[19:38:33] *** tsukasa has quit IRC[19:44:23] *** phi1ipb has joined #openindiana[19:46:17] *** tsukasa has joined #openindiana[19:51:03] *** redgone has joined #openindiana[19:51:46] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[19:51:46] *** Botanic has quit IRC[19:51:46] *** Botanic has joined #openindiana[19:53:38] *** Number7 has joined #openindiana[19:54:30] <Number7> Has anyone here managed to get an ICP Vortex 8x23RZ working under OI?[19:55:05] <Number7> The OEM has Solaris proper listed as supported but offers no drivers and the driver search during install is coming up empty handed.[19:58:32] *** held has joined #openindiana[19:58:53] <phi1ipb> i heard oracle took openoffice.org offline, has this also happened to opensolaris.org, tia[20:00:04] *** Number7 has quit IRC[20:03:58] <phi1ipb> hmmm, openoffice.org is not offline, but it seems opensolaris.org is[20:05:59] *** baitisj has joined #openindiana[20:06:08] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[20:06:55] *** Naresh` has joined #openindiana[20:06:57] *** Naresh has quit IRC[20:07:14] <raichoo> hi everyone[20:07:42] <dkeav> hi dr nick[20:08:06] <raichoo> :P[20:13:04] <sergefonville> good evening[20:13:17] <sergefonville> I just installed firefox[20:13:37] <sergefonville> and it says Gtk-WARNING **: Could not find the icon 'gtk-go-back-ltr'[20:13:49] <sergefonville> how do I solve that?[20:14:04] <quasi> does it otherwise work?[20:14:07] *** elgar has quit IRC[20:14:16] <sergefonville> it does[20:14:22] <sergefonville> so far at least[20:14:22] <quasi> ignore it[20:15:16] <sergefonville> it just looks like its from 1998 or so[20:15:20] <quasi> firefox throws loads of warnings on the console. people just don't usually see them because they've started it from the windowmanager[20:15:27] <sergefonville> but perhaps that has a different reason[20:16:14] <jkimball4> i don't think i've ever started firefox from a terminal and *not* seen warnings[20:17:42] <dkeav> i have once, but thats when it was still called phoenix[20:17:58] <quasi> jkimball4: exactly[20:19:36] <alanc> phi1ipb: most of the former Sun community sites went offline yesterday due to cooler failure in the data center they were in, some have come back online, others are still being fixed[20:19:52] <Triskelios> jkj: nahamu's been asking me for a date on that for a while, I have quite a lot on my plate right now though[20:20:16] <phi1ipb> alanc : thanks[20:20:23] <alanc> openoffice.org, opensolaris.org, java.net, netbeans.org all affected - even pkg.oracle.com for Solaris 11 Express users for a while[20:20:53] <Triskelios> jkj: you guys could get together on this and do some analysis...[20:21:27] <richlowe> That's a very good idea[20:32:34] *** Naresh`` has joined #openindiana[20:33:22] *** dekar has quit IRC[20:34:02] *** Naresh` has quit IRC[20:43:44] *** Shadow__X has quit IRC[20:51:50] <sergefonville> anyone know if chrome is supported on oi?[20:58:03] *** kart_ has quit IRC[20:59:04] <jkimball4> yes, but you'll have to pay for it[20:59:21] <jkimball4> err yes, with a caveat[20:59:53] <jkimball4> http://chromium.hybridsource.org/subscriptions[21:00:19] <jkimball4> the person is doing a service, but being a bit demanding imho[21:01:54] <jkimball4> i was thinking about testing web stuff on chrome, but would rather keep the money than humor google sheepsies[21:02:59] <jkimball4> definitely seen ""try using google with a better browser. click here"" *rolls eyes* hehe[21:19:08] *** hajma has joined #openindiana[21:24:46] *** lil-beezy has joined #openindiana[21:26:48] *** dekar has joined #openindiana[21:35:09] <lil-beezy> can anyone help me understand why my raidz2 pool isn't growing after I replace all of the drives with bigger ones?[21:35:38] <longcat> is autoexpand property true?[21:36:09] <lil-beezy> hm, I'm super new, so how would I check[21:36:16] <lil-beezy> if it matters, I've already rebooted the machine[21:36:24] <sickness> lil-beezy: I did this from 320gb disks to 1tb disks and it did grow =)[21:36:31] <sickness> lil-beezy: 8disks raidz2 pool[21:36:39] <lil-beezy> nice :)[21:36:45] <longcat> zpool get canexpand tank[21:36:50] <longcat> oops[21:36:52] <lil-beezy> I'm just playing around in virtualbox right now to see if zfs is right for me[21:36:53] <longcat> s/canexpand/autoexpand[21:37:15] <lil-beezy> longcat: it says it's turned off[21:37:19] <longcat> man zpool and search for autoexpand for more details[21:37:36] <lil-beezy> will do![21:37:38] <lil-beezy> thanks![21:38:47] <lil-beezy> ah! that did it![21:38:53] <longcat> ah great[21:38:55] <lil-beezy> why would you ever want autoexpand to be off though?[21:39:09] <longcat> no surprises[21:39:51] <lil-beezy> how would a new set of disks be a "surprise" though?[21:40:11] <longcat> i dont think autoexpand always existed, so when added, old behavior was kept[21:40:13] <lil-beezy> or are there scenarios that could cause a pool to grow unexpectedly besides new disks?[21:40:22] <lil-beezy> ahh, that makes sense![21:40:33] <lil-beezy> so there's no performance hit or anything like that to leave it on[21:41:26] <longcat> none is mentioned ;)[21:41:27] <sergefonville> can there be multiple pools on the same disk?[21:41:57] <tsoome> you get surprise if you have say, 2 different disk mirror and smaller disk will die[21:42:14] <baitisj> hey guys, are there any libreoffice builds for OI?[21:42:20] <Triskelios> sergefonville: yes, not recommended[21:42:42] <Triskelios> baitisj: no one has stepped up to do the port yet[21:42:50] <baitisj> hmmm :-)[21:43:04] <sergefonville> 4 disks 2TB each mirror of 4 50G[21:43:11] <sergefonville> the remainder raidz[21:43:21] *** raichoo has quit IRC[21:44:12] <Triskelios> really not recommended if you care about redundancy, you get very complex situations when a disk does fail[21:45:00] <sergefonville> if I replace the disk and I enable the port[21:45:11] <sergefonville> it doesn't resilver als normal?[21:48:07] <longcat> ugh[21:50:53] *** xmikus01 has quit IRC[21:51:02] *** ThothCrimson has quit IRC[21:54:12] *** CoilDomain has joined #openindiana[22:08:58] *** edgars has joined #openindiana[22:09:05] <edgars> yo brothers :)[22:09:12] <joffe> yellooo[22:09:20] <edgars> sup?[22:09:24] <joffe> edgars sounds latvian[22:09:25] <joffe> you latvian?[22:09:39] <joffe> hm yeah you are[22:09:55] <edgars> my hostname says that[22:09:57] <edgars> :>[22:10:11] <joffe> your hostname is your IP[22:10:13] <joffe> which is kinda bad[22:10:42] <edgars> but yours nickname is very jewish :)[22:10:48] <edgars> ip?[22:10:52] <edgars> hmmm[22:11:01] <joffe> [22:12:28] * edgars (~edgars at 91 dot 135.16.3)[22:11:04] <joffe> not ideal.[22:11:10] <joffe> my nickname is, yes, i realize[22:11:14] <joffe> i realized long after i picked it[22:11:19] <joffe> it sounds funny in my language[22:11:25] <joffe> didnt know it sounded jewish.[22:11:32] <edgars> :)[22:11:46] <joffe> also while i have a big nose, big ears, brown eyes and brown hair and generally look quite jewish[22:11:47] <edgars> interesting, who steals my ptr? :/[22:11:47] <joffe> i'm not[22:12:17] <edgars> hmmm[22:12:37] <edgars> ok, but how did you find out that im latvian?[22:13:00] <joffe> http://www.maxmind.com/app/lookup_city[22:13:47] <edgars> mhhh :/[22:14:08] <joffe> don't be all weirded out, i have it bookmarked for moderating forums :([22:14:35] <edgars> i thought you know my name ;)[22:14:54] <edgars> i see[22:14:57] <joffe> well i know you're Edgars from Riga[22:15:04] <joffe> but then you're hardly the only Edgars in Riga[22:15:28] <joffe> also might be thats just a hub and youre not actually in riga[22:15:35] <joffe> i know these IP tools never get my own city right[22:15:40] <edgars> rike is just workplace :)[22:15:48] <edgars> riga[22:16:04] <edgars> and ip is from riga :>[22:17:27] <edgars> btw, do you use nexenta stor or napp-it ? :)[22:17:41] <joffe> nope, sorry :([22:17:43] <joffe> i just idle here[22:17:51] <joffe> i'm a filthy desktop user[22:19:22] <edgars> solaris ar desktop? :)[22:19:25] <edgars> as[22:20:47] *** Reepicheep has quit IRC[22:21:14] *** Reepicheep has joined #openindiana[22:25:19] *** mikw has quit IRC[22:30:33] *** raichoo has joined #openindiana[22:30:46] *** miine has quit IRC[22:55:28] <tomww> why not? if you add a few extra packages then you have even multimedia stuff[23:03:36] <edgars> not a very usable[23:03:38] <edgars> :/[23:03:59] <tomww> depends.[23:04:00] <longcat> solaris works as a workstation... if i have vms for windows and ubuntu for development[23:04:35] <edgars> omg... i imagined OpenVMS :D[23:04:47] <raichoo> lol me too ^^[23:05:27] <edgars> but thet system was/is pretty fancy[23:07:31] *** kforbz has quit IRC[23:09:08] <PMT> If I'm getting log errors from mpt_sas in dmesg of the form "... received for target 108.", is there an easy way for me to map that number to the drive?[23:17:25] *** radsy has joined #openindiana[23:23:05] *** skeeziks has quit IRC[23:31:31] *** laidback_01 has quit IRC[23:32:11] <lil-beezy> another question: if I set nbmand on a pool, do I have to set it for datasets in that pool? or does the setting propagate to the children?[23:38:45] *** McBofh has quit IRC[23:40:04] *** McBofh has joined #openindiana[23:51:01] *** lewellyn has joined #openindiana[23:51:01] *** lewellyn has joined #openindiana[23:51:13] *** Reepicheep has quit IRC[23:59:52] *** hsp has quit IRC