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[09:34:55] <wrobinson> quite pretty
[09:35:32] <lapsang> thanks! new ones are even better
[09:38:23] <lapsang> the banding at the top and bottom are from me just move-copying buffer... I should do something about htat
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[09:42:16] <wrobinson> neat stuff - how are you implementing?
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[09:50:30] <lapsang> wrobinson - copying shadertoys and playing with them :)
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[09:50:59] <lapsang> looks like a macro of some tapestry
[09:51:24] <lapsang> guess this is my life now
[09:52:09] <lapsang> this is all feedback and random wiggling, to answer your question
[09:52:25] <lapsang> it starts with nothing then obviously rgb values get offset.
[10:06:24] <wrobinso1> :) keep having fun
[10:13:16] <lapsang> amen brother
[10:13:20] <lapsang> are you an expert?
[10:13:29] <lapsang> this is addictive once you bootstrap, says the beginner
[10:13:57] <wrobinso1> very far from expert. so much to learn
[10:14:04] <Yaniel> very addictive, since you immediately see the effects of anything you do
[10:14:21] <wrobinso1> coding in general always felt like that to me
[10:15:07] <lapsang> I want to make artistic visuals from audio I compose. I've wanted to do this for decades
[10:15:14] <lapsang> Finally "got into it"
[10:15:34] <lapsang> other forms of coding felt less cool
[10:17:02] <wrobinso1> admirable intent
[10:17:10] <wrobinso1> i liked playing with fluxus for that some years back
[10:17:15] <wrobinso1> live-coding
[10:18:16] <lapsang> interesting
[10:18:34] <wrobinso1> the oddity being that it's lisp
[10:19:11] <wrobinso1> www.pawfal.org/fluxus/
[10:20:54] <lapsang> wow this is wild, haha
[10:21:22] <lapsang> whats the basis?
[10:21:43] <lapsang> oh you said lisp
[10:22:00] <lapsang> is it compiled or interpreted?
[10:22:16] <lapsang> im guessing interpreted
[10:26:18] <wrobinso1> interpreted
[10:26:44] <wrobinso1> you code right on top of the display, and i think refresh with F5 or something like that
[10:27:35] <lapsang> yeah thats hip
[10:28:10] <lapsang> something like that i bet
[10:28:34] <lapsang> hexler's still in alpha btw
[10:35:01] <wrobinso1> exactly
[10:35:17] <wrobinso1> though fluxus obviously somewhat less advanced :)
[10:37:16] <wrobinso1> am i right, they're flipping between only vert and frag shaders?
[10:37:55] <lapsang> no idea, Im a beginner
[10:38:35] <wrobinso1> :)
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[10:41:10] <lapsang> found the zebra setting
[10:41:17] <wrobinso1> hehe
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[18:50:55] <tab-key> when you construct a view matrix for a camera, for the translation colum of the matrix why do you need to use dot product of the eye position with each axis?
[18:51:22] <tab-key> with an object translation you just use the translation directly in the colum
[18:51:30] <tab-key> (assuming colum major)
[18:56:52] <gehn> constructing a view matrix for a camera generally means performing a change of basis
[18:57:14] <gehn> and change of basis involves multiplying by the inverse
[18:57:50] <gehn> so part of the answer is that it's not "just a simple translation", it's a change of basis
[19:09:24] <tab-key> so it's like the translation with respect to the new orientation?
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[19:16:56] <gehn> it's like a change of basis
[19:17:16] <gehn> a topic you should find covered in an average Linear Algebra course
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[19:43:07] <RobertPlummer> I need to map a 2d and a 3d array of vec2's, vec3's, and vec4's (technically they are up to a 4d array, I know) from a matrix. Is there a standardized function or some reading I can use to map coordinates?
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[19:43:45] <zid> what the fuck
[19:43:50] <zid> button did I just press
[19:44:11] <RobertPlummer> Enter?
[19:44:50] <zid> I think I must have done a character repeat expansion escape without knowing while trying to change window with the number keys, whoops
[19:44:58] <RobertPlummer> Np.
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[20:27:12] <VladTheImplier> Hey there :] I can't load textures with odd dimensions. (4078x2039) it Segfaults 4 out of 5 times and sometimes it comes through with a corrupted and distorted version of the texture. I have checked and ARB_texture_non_power_of_two is available. It seems if the texture dimensions are divisible by 8 it works strangely. Is this something known?
[20:27:42] <Yaniel> there is also a maximum size for textures, make sure you aren't exceeding that
[20:28:07] <VladTheImplier> Max size is 8192, so not exceeding
[20:28:22] <VladTheImplier> ....at least this is what's reported
[20:28:22] <Yaniel> is it RGBA
[20:28:27] <VladTheImplier> no, RGB
[20:28:42] <Yaniel> or did you set pixel unpack alignment
[20:30:05] <VladTheImplier> no... I guess? never heard of it. The offending line is glTexImage2D(GL_TEXTURE_2D, 0, width, height, 0, GL_RGB, GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE, pointer_to_image);
[20:30:21] <VladTheImplier> So I guess I didn't set anything like it
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[20:30:36] <Yaniel> then glTexImage2D will assume that your data is sized a multiple of 4 bytes, which it is not
[20:30:48] <Yaniel> and consequently read past the end of your pixel array
[20:30:56] <VladTheImplier> hmm... CAn I check this?
[20:31:03] <VladTheImplier> Maybe it defaults to on?
[20:31:12] <Yaniel> it defaults to 4
[20:31:18] <VladTheImplier> ooooooooooh.
[20:31:25] <VladTheImplier> How can I set this? :D
[20:31:46] <Yaniel> you'll never guess
[20:32:00] <VladTheImplier> uuuugh... no? ^^
[20:32:48] <Yaniel> actually, I can't seem to remember either :D
[20:32:58] <Yaniel> glPixelStorei
[20:33:00] <VladTheImplier> glPixelStorei(GL_UNPACK_ALIGNMENT, 1) I presume is what
[20:33:03] <VladTheImplier> googlefu tells me
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[20:34:51] <VladTheImplier> HOLY SHIT.
[20:34:53] <VladTheImplier> It all works
[20:34:55] <VladTheImplier> MAgic
[20:35:01] <VladTheImplier> Yaniel: So many thanks man.
[20:35:03] <zid> That'll be $200
[20:35:08] <zid> $80 for yaniel, $120 for me
[20:35:14] <VladTheImplier> Such vital information
[20:35:20] <VladTheImplier> no mention in any tutorial ever
[20:35:26] <VladTheImplier> Why ;_;
[20:35:29] <Yaniel> pretty sure it is mentioned
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[20:35:34] <zid> nobody else uses weird ass textures? :p
[20:35:39] <VladTheImplier> I must have skipped it =.=
[20:35:54] <VladTheImplier> It for normal photos... from cameras and stuff
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[20:36:05] <VladTheImplier> so I can't expect normal^^
[20:36:19] <zid> cut a couple pixels off the edge :p
[20:36:48] <Yaniel> hm, looks like my go-to tutorials indeed don't mention it
[20:37:38] <VladTheImplier> It's almost scary how much IRC has saved my ass. I almost feel bad for being spoonfed...
[20:38:50] <zid> VladTheImplier: You'd feel atoned if you paid your tab
[20:39:12] <Yaniel> zid: has anyone told you you're annoying
[20:39:21] <zid> not today
[20:39:34] <Yaniel> well about time that got fixed then
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