September 24, 2016 
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September 24, 2016 [00:00:06] *** zagabar <zagabar!~zagabar@unaffiliated/zagabar> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[00:00:31] <afl_ext> i think the cubes instanced would do completely fine too[00:03:30] <_nnead_> ok so instances is the way to go :D[00:04:49] <shirt> anyone interested in play-testing my webgl multiplayer game? join #springy or just play: http://46.101.178.53/springy.html[00:06:52] <_nnead_> afl_ext just a last question: you stated i do not have to scale my height, but i have defined my 3d area +-1.0f in all three dimensions will my instances not be drawn outside of my dimensions? or did you just meant i dont have to scale them in c++ but in my shader[00:07:15] <afl_ext> better do it in shader[00:07:56] *** mukunda <mukunda!mukunda@c-71-205-185-63.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[00:09:46] <_nnead_> ok will try it out, thanks for the help i appreciate it[00:09:57] <_nnead_> @afl_ext : ^[00:10:15] <_nnead_> shirt: how do i move in your game[00:10:37] <shirt> _nnead_: click mouse to fire grappling hook[00:10:43] <_nnead_> performance 7fps[00:12:08] <_nnead_> shirt: i like it :D[00:12:24] <shirt> _nnead_: thanks![00:12:49] <_nnead_> shirt: but i would prefere a keyboard input :D[00:13:05] *** SwiftMatt <SwiftMatt!~Objective@162.242.94.102> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:20:47] <doek> hi ![00:23:24] <afl_ext> shirt its hard[00:24:00] <afl_ext> shirt make android version and earn millions[00:24:19] <shirt> afl_ext: heh[00:24:57] <afl_ext> even without multiplayer i would play on android while popping[00:25:32] <shirt> afl_ext: try it on your android! it should work[00:27:05] <doek> I was writing a program on a pc with an nVidia GPU, and now I'm trying to continue on my laptop running mesa... the shaders I wrote seem to not compile because "GLSL 3.30 is not supported. Supported versions are: 1.10, 1.20, 1.30, 1.00 ES, and 3.00 ES" which sounds weird because I had opened opengl 3.3 contexts in the past... is it possible that my laptop can open an openGL 3.3 context but not compile version330 shaders ?[00:27:13] <afl_ext> shirt it works indeed[00:27:37] *** ArkaZeen <ArkaZeen!~ArkaZeen@rn-nat-129-97-131-0.dynamic.uwaterloo.ca> has joined ##OpenGL[00:27:40] <doek> (the program runs normally on the PC with that nvidia GPU)[00:27:40] <shirt> afl_ext: sweet[00:28:18] <_nnead_> Error registering: [object XMLHttpRequestProgressEvent] on BlackBerry Q10[00:28:45] *** Waynes <Waynes!~wayness@23.94.61.168> has joined ##OpenGL[00:30:12] <afl_ext> shirt good job[00:30:44] <shirt> afl_ext: thanks![00:31:11] *** robot-beethoven <robot-beethoven!~robot-bee@c-73-65-29-166.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> has joined ##OpenGL[00:33:27] *** Jeanne-Kamikaze <Jeanne-Kamikaze!~Jeanne-Ka@searspoint.nvidia.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:35:19] <_nnead_> shirt: sharing your game, friend with mac cant play it[00:35:31] *** Ploppz <Ploppz!~ploppz@2001:700:303:b:f3ce:ca7c:3834:8e44> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[00:36:15] *** kasper_ <kasper_!~safaf@82.137.15.145> has joined ##OpenGL[00:36:34] <shirt> _nnead_: :( what error does he or she get?[00:36:59] *** toastar <toastar!toastar@TOROON0547W-LP140-03-845428260.dsl.bell.ca> has joined ##OpenGL[00:38:18] *** kasper^ <kasper^!~safaf@82.137.9.212> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[00:39:10] <_nnead_> @shirt: Error registering: [object XMLHttpRequestProgressEvent] with Safari Browser[00:39:40] <_nnead_> he is guessing some ajax request not working[00:39:52] <afl_ext> _nnead_ tell your friend there are better browsers around[00:40:14] <shirt> weird.. yay, should use a better browser ;)[00:41:22] <shirt> _nnead_: also, if your friend is in a helpful mood, they could check the developer console and please tell me the last line that was printed[00:42:17] *** tristans1 <tristans1!~tristanse@nat-165-91-12-22.tamulink.tamu.edu> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[00:42:32] *** przm <przm!~przm@ool-44c79cfa.dyn.optonline.net> has joined ##OpenGL[00:42:37] <_nnead_> which browser do you recommend?[00:42:44] *** przm <przm!~przm@ool-44c79cfa.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:43:12] <afl_ext> it works on chrome[00:44:37] <_nnead_> Going to try it with android sandbox inside of blackberry :D[00:45:23] *** eivarv <eivarv!~eivarv@cm-84.215.4.97.getinternet.no> has quit IRC (Quit: Sleep)[00:45:36] *** rendar <rendar!~rendar@host55-19-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:46:29] *** tristanseifert <tristanseifert!~tristanse@nat-165-91-12-22.tamulink.tamu.edu> has joined ##OpenGL[00:47:40] <_nnead_> @shirt with chrome running inside of android sandbox inside of blackberry os, running with 10fps[00:48:52] <afl_ext> shirt nexus 5x 35-60 fps very unstable fps[00:49:01] *** Gama11 <Gama11!~quassel@p57A9A542.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:49:02] <afl_ext> sometimes super smooth and sometimes not[00:49:09] <shirt> _nnead_: heh, thanks for the report. game requires opengl hardware acceleration[00:49:43] <afl_ext> on 5x it looks like its not gpu lagging but something on cpu side[00:50:07] <shirt> hm...[00:50:13] *** Waynes <Waynes!~wayness@23.94.61.168> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:53:26] *** kasper^ <kasper^!~safaf@82.137.12.177> has joined ##OpenGL[00:55:18] *** fqtw <fqtw!~me@x590e0a39.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[00:55:37] <_nnead_> shirt: physics engine is spmetimes a little buggy :D[00:55:52] *** kasper_ <kasper_!~safaf@82.137.15.145> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[00:56:07] <shirt> _nnead_: makes it more fun that way![00:57:55] <foobaz> shirt: mac firefox here, i can't move my guy, i can only shot web[00:58:06] <afl_ext> foobaz shot web at the ground[00:58:06] <_nnead_> shirt: yes! there were like 10 people in front of me and i was playing vertical bungeejumping :D[00:58:16] *** nine_milli <nine_milli!~nine_mill@32.211.52.104> has joined ##OpenGL[00:58:17] <shirt> _nnead_: lol[00:58:25] <_nnead_> foobaz: shot web to ground[00:58:25] <foobaz> oh there are no arrow keys or wasd controls?[00:58:40] <afl_ext> shirt it reminds me of worms armageddon rope trickjumps[00:58:43] <_nnead_> foobaz you are like the fat cousin of spiderman[00:59:10] <_nnead_> so just spiderman moves to go forward :D[00:59:11] <foobaz> how rude[00:59:11] <shirt> foobaz: only ninja rope ("web")[00:59:30] <afl_ext> shirt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo42LU9eofk[00:59:31] <shirt> (also try to find the bullets powerup)[00:59:43] <_nnead_> (fat cousin ingame not you i person)[01:00:43] <foobaz> :P[01:01:03] <shirt> afl_ext: nice! yeah i used to play worms back in the day, this is a little inspired from it[01:01:56] *** zanakyn 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<afl_ext!~afl_ext3@unaffiliated/afl-ext/x-2796036> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[01:16:32] <foobaz> scrap the phone and get one of these: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10514/the-motorola-moto-g4-and-g4-plus-review[01:18:59] *** Rajamaa <Rajamaa!~Rajamaa@a91-156-244-1.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:24:14] *** kasper_ <kasper_!~safaf@82.137.10.204> has joined ##OpenGL[01:25:06] *** kasper_ <kasper_!~safaf@82.137.10.204> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:25:27] *** kasper_ <kasper_!~safaf@82.137.10.204> has joined ##OpenGL[01:27:33] *** kasper^ <kasper^!~safaf@82.137.12.177> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:29:03] *** tristanseifert <tristanseifert!~tristanse@nat-165-91-12-22.tamulink.tamu.edu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[01:33:13] *** arescorpio <arescorpio!~arescorpi@64-238-114-200.fibertel.com.ar> has joined ##OpenGL[01:34:37] *** kasper^ <kasper^!~safaf@82.137.14.27> has joined ##OpenGL[01:34:51] *** konom <konom!~tamatias@bzq-84-108-63-8.cablep.bezeqint.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:34:52] *** kasper_ <kasper_!~safaf@82.137.10.204> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[01:35:18] *** MoZu4k___ <MoZu4k___!~MoZu4k@c-50-142-183-133.hsd1.tn.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: MoZu4k___)[01:37:04] *** tristanseifert <tristanseifert!~tristanse@128.194.3.4> has joined ##OpenGL[01:39:27] <dahlia> I wonder if those moto g phones have a compass in them[01:40:02] *** tristans1 <tristans1!~tristanse@128.194.3.4> has joined ##OpenGL[01:41:42] *** ratchetfreak <ratchetfreak!~ratchetfr@ptr-2hj4tbosgukodsv7yxuwi70fy.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[01:42:19] *** tristanseifert <tristanseifert!~tristanse@128.194.3.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[01:42:38] *** jdolan <jdolan!~jdolan@2001:4800:7817:101:be76:4eff:fe05:2412> has joined ##OpenGL[01:43:01] <dahlia> guess not :( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/compass-g4-plus-t3381905[01:51:37] *** tristans1 <tristans1!~tristanse@128.194.3.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[01:53:26] *** mukunda <mukunda!mukunda@c-71-205-185-63.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined ##OpenGL[01:53:54] *** tristans1 <tristans1!~tristanse@128.194.3.4> has joined ##OpenGL[01:53:59] *** pril <pril!~userid@unaffiliated/pril> has quit IRC ()[01:58:33] *** Ad1 <Ad1!~Ad1_RnR@public-gprs394746.centertel.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:00:09] *** tristans1 <tristans1!~tristanse@128.194.3.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[02:00:19] *** Ad1 <Ad1!~Ad1_RnR@public-gprs386199.centertel.pl> has joined ##OpenGL[02:05:00] *** t0by <t0by!~t0by@host151-242-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined ##OpenGL[02:05:17] *** t0by <t0by!~t0by@host151-242-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:07:01] *** Ad1_RN 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realz <realz!~realz@unaffiliated/realazthat> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[02:23:40] *** kasper^ <kasper^!~safaf@82.137.14.27> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:31:29] *** razieliyo <razieliyo!~razieliyo@unaffiliated/razieliyo> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[02:35:13] *** xeron_ <xeron_!~xeron@cpe-74-135-71-188.columbus.res.rr.com> has joined ##OpenGL[02:35:19] *** tristanseifert <tristanseifert!~tristanse@128.194.3.4> has joined ##OpenGL[02:37:11] *** xeron_ <xeron_!~xeron@cpe-74-135-71-188.columbus.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:37:44] *** korans <korans!~korans@62.68.160.220> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[02:37:54] *** N00dlez <N00dlez!~xeron@cpe-74-135-71-188.columbus.res.rr.com> has joined ##OpenGL[02:38:59] <N00dlez> I'm buying a laptop to specifically run linux on and I want to make sure its going to be handle some graphics stuff I do for learning. Any suggestions for a min/preferred cpu/gpu so I don't bottleneck in the future?[02:39:31] *** MoZu4k_ <MoZu4k_!~MoZu4k@c-50-142-183-133.hsd1.tn.comcast.net> has joined ##OpenGL[02:42:06] *** upgrdman <upgrdman!~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:49:03] *** nikki93 <nikki93!~nikki93@2601:645:8104:cb10:f01c:4875:7c7a:c3b1> has joined ##OpenGL[02:49:06] *** GarrettShields <GarrettShields!~GarrettSh@CPE3497f6605400-CMbc14013107e0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has quit IRC (Quit: twitter.com/GarrettShields)[02:55:24] <nine_milli> yo does SDL use OpenAL?[02:56:39] <foobaz> N00dlez: what os will you run on it?[02:58:08] <foobaz> every CPU/GPU will bottleneck under sufficient load, and there is a tradeoff between performance and portability[02:58:10] <N00dlez> prob just ubuntu[02:58:51] <foobaz> so the answer really depends on what you plan to run on it and how much you can put up with heat/fans/bad battery life[02:59:07] <foobaz> do you think you could get away with intel iris pro graphics?[02:59:19] *** korans <korans!~korans@62.68.160.220> has joined ##OpenGL[02:59:26] *** Ad1_RN <Ad1_RN!~Ad1_RnR@public-gprs392289.centertel.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[02:59:30] <foobaz> they're on the slow side but it's cheap, runs cool, power efficient, and the drivers are good[02:59:50] <foobaz> and then if you need more horsepower maybe use a desktop PC where these tradeoffs are not so harsh[03:00:08] <N00dlez> Not sure. I want to work on developing skills to eventually get a job in graphics. Probably just simple 3d games for now[03:00:37] <N00dlez> and my company is paying for half of it so price isnt that big of an issue.[03:00:39] *** upgrdman <upgrdman!~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman> has joined ##OpenGL[03:00:47] <N00dlez> I ahave a desktop that can handle most things (980), but I am on the go a lot[03:00:58] <N00dlez> will usually be able to stay plugged in so power isnt as big of an issue[03:02:06] <N00dlez> *battery life not an issue[03:02:31] *** Joefish_ <Joefish_!~Joefish@p5B121AC5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined ##OpenGL[03:03:05] <foobaz> i'd get an intel iris pro gpu because the drivers are better than mobile nvidia/amd drivers and because you have a beefy desktop[03:03:14] <N00dlez> Okay thanks :D[03:03:35] <foobaz> it's not super fast but it's... okay[03:03:49] <N00dlez> I know there are laptops with 1060s in them..but I dont know how portable they really are[03:03:51] <foobaz> and the driver situation is pretty bad for amd/nvidia in laptops[03:04:12] <foobaz> mobile 1060 works well in windows but it's a hassle in linux[03:04:57] <N00dlez> Didnt know that about the drivers but I feel liek youa re rigth[03:05:25] <N00dlez> main reason i wanta seperate laptop is because i tried it on my main laptop and couldnt get the graphics driver to work with ubunutu[03:05:29] <N00dlez> screen kept flickering[03:05:33] *** Joefish <Joefish!~Joefish@p5B120882.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:05:59] *** nikki93 <nikki93!~nikki93@2601:645:8104:cb10:f01c:4875:7c7a:c3b1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:06:46] <foobaz> mobile GPUs are more complex than desktop because they're set up to switch back and forth between the on-chip intel GPU and the discrete GPU to save power[03:06:48] *** irrenhaus3 <irrenhaus3!~xenon@HSI-KBW-046-005-253-043.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[03:07:30] <foobaz> like it only fires up the mobile 1060 when you launch a game or something[03:08:14] <N00dlez> Ah yeah that is annoying, but I guess it makes sense. It's just hard for me to sit all day for 8 hours at work then come home and sit in my room for another 4 hours.[03:08:25] <N00dlez> Much easier for me to take a laptop to panera or something to sort of be outside[03:10:11] *** ArkaZeen <ArkaZeen!~ArkaZeen@rn-nat-129-97-131-0.dynamic.uwaterloo.ca> has quit IRC ()[03:11:34] <noizex> I don't think any relatively powerful laptop will be very "mobile" ;)[03:11:52] <noizex> I took my Asus G750 out ONCE[03:12:10] <noizex> looks more like a jet than laptop, and doesn't fit any bag I have[03:13:48] <nine_milli> whats the sdl chatroom?[03:17:06] <N00dlez> imma go with #sdl[03:21:25] *** korans <korans!~korans@62.68.160.220> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[03:24:15] *** konom <konom!~tamatias@bzq-84-108-63-8.cablep.bezeqint.net> has joined ##OpenGL[03:37:50] *** BearishMushroom <BearishMushroom!~BearishMu@90-231-174-194-no159.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:40:54] *** korans <korans!~korans@62.68.160.220> has joined ##OpenGL[03:44:35] *** hexagoxel <hexagoxel!~hexagoxel@p200300798F210800021E33FFFE2231E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[03:45:48] *** doomlord <doomlord!~textual@host86-142-61-36.range86-142.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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<ShadowIce!~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044> has joined ##OpenGL[13:36:44] *** } <}!~none@unaffiliated/bsdbeard> has joined ##OpenGL[13:38:07] <}> Hey, a few days ago someone recommended nanogui to integrate a simple gui in an existed OpenGL context... I compiled and linked it, and the GUI draws fine, but my own data isnt rendered correctly anymore... any ideas what can cause this?[13:38:13] *** joshsyn <joshsyn!~swoorup@14-203-132-32.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined ##OpenGL[13:38:21] *** Th30n <Th30n!~Th30n@78-0-207-117.adsl.net.t-com.hr> has joined ##OpenGL[13:38:40] <}> I tried manually re-setting a bunch of OpenGL state (shaders/vaos/uniform buffers/texture units/depth/clamping/framebuffers/etc) but that didnt change anything[13:39:44] *** Chilley <Chilley!~Chilley@unaffiliated/chilley> has joined ##OpenGL[13:40:28] *** Chilley <Chilley!~Chilley@unaffiliated/chilley> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:41:42] <}> This is how it looks http://i.imgur.com/PRMDLIq.jpg[13:43:09] *** lucaswang <lucaswang!~lucaswang@183.167.211.74> has joined ##OpenGL[13:43:22] *** lucaswang <lucaswang!~lucaswang@183.167.211.74> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:43:37] *** lucaswang <lucaswang!~lucaswang@183.167.211.74> has joined ##OpenGL[13:45:54] *** nikki93 <nikki93!~nikki93@2601:645:8104:cb10:d5de:254b:e836:74a1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:46:36] <noizex> and how has it looked before?[13:46:38] *** JRajamaa <JRajamaa!~Rajamaa@a91-156-244-1.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined ##OpenGL[13:46:44] <}> one sec[13:47:46] <}> http://i.imgur.com/LV7thEU.jpg[13:48:13] *** JRajamaa <JRajamaa!~Rajamaa@a91-156-244-1.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:49:05] *** Rajamaa <Rajamaa!~Rajamaa@a91-156-244-1.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[13:49:45] <}> I don't understand what can cause this :-([13:50:18] <noizex> that starry background, you render this?[13:50:25] <noizex> it can't be seen in the "correct" version[13:50:30] <}> no, that happens with nanogui... its like random noise[13:50:42] *** Rajamaa <Rajamaa!~Rajamaa@a91-156-244-1.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined ##OpenGL[13:50:49] <}> its different every frame[13:51:06] <noizex> ouch[13:51:26] <rawrawrer> So, you're sure you're using your shader program for the rendering?[13:51:27] <noizex> you sure no state "bleeds" from nanogui to your rendering?[13:51:34] <noizex> like shader and such[13:51:59] <}> I'm sure its my shader because I'm doing deferred rendering and I can still swap which texture im showing (position/depths/normals/etc)[13:52:09] <}> But it all looks "broken"[13:52:55] <noizex> hard to say without debugging every GL call[13:53:05] <noizex> probably worth inspecting single frame and what happens there[13:53:07] <}> http://i.imgur.com/9E9tHq4.jpg i.e. this is what shows up if i output normals[13:53:11] <}> hmm[13:53:21] <noizex> maybe start with resetting everything to nothing and render something basic and confirm what happens[13:53:39] <noizex> this looks really wrong, if your texture is correct[13:53:48] <noizex> inspecting the texture in gDebugger or similar would certainly help[13:54:02] <}> gdebugger doesnt work for me for some reason, but I can try with codexl[13:54:41] <noizex> yeah it has this feature that makes it not work for certain people, I was lucky and never had problem except for occasional crashes[13:54:41] <}> it kind of looks like the texture has wrong data in it? somehow[13:54:46] <noizex> but it helped me debugging a lot of weird shit[13:55:07] <noizex> well, either texture is really wrong or shader used for displaying it does that[13:55:07] *** Suchorski <Suchorski!regex@unaffiliated/suchorski> has joined ##OpenGL[13:55:37] *** Jeanne-Kamikaze <Jeanne-Kamikaze!~Jeanne-Ka@246.red-83-57-45.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[13:56:02] <}> yeah gdebugger was nice, it used to work for me about 2 years ago but i havent used opengl since then... and now it doesnt work[13:56:14] <}> at least codexl works but im still learning it[13:57:04] <}> yeah i looked at it in codexl and my textures are all broken[13:57:12] <}> after using nanogui[13:57:39] <}> http://i.imgur.com/cmBvFQq.jpg[13:57:47] <noizex> probably nanogui uses the same units and somehow overwrites them[13:58:09] <}> it doesnt seem like it overwrites them entirely, just adds some kind of noise? its really strange[13:58:10] <noizex> though I have no idea what would gui library do by rendering noise to some texture[13:58:15] *** funfunctor <funfunctor!~edward@1.144.97.109> has joined ##OpenGL[13:58:21] <noizex> yeah it would have to blend on top of existing texture[13:58:36] <noizex> try maybe switching to different texture unit[13:58:44] <}> blend huh... I'll try maybe enabling/disabling blend after/before nanogui to see if it helps[13:58:46] <noizex> or unbind the texture from it[13:58:55] <}> ok I'll try that too[13:59:00] <noizex> like, reset all bound textures after your frame[13:59:10] <noizex> same for vbo/vao[13:59:27] <noizex> nothing may bleed from nano to your rendering, but it may be the other way around, who knows what nano does there[13:59:29] *** TechnoCrunch <TechnoCrunch!~Tech@101.100.137.146> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:59:51] <noizex> that's why I prefer to use libs that throw me a bunch of vertex/index buffers and some render items and let me handle the rendering myself[14:00:12] <noizex> if something fucks up at least I know whom to blame :P[14:00:28] <}> I found some other bugs in nanogui while compiling/linking it, was kind of disapointed...[14:00:32] <}> I'll maybe clone the repo and push bug fixes after i figure this part out[14:00:59] *** fqtw <fqtw!~me@x4db27c5a.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined ##OpenGL[14:02:54] *** unreal_ <unreal_!~unreal@unaffiliated/unreal> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[14:03:45] <}> noizex, You were right about the blend, I had to glDisable(GL_BLEND) before and after nanogui, the only problem now it seems is it passes wrong uniform buffer data after nanogui[14:03:55] *** fqtw_ <fqtw_!~me@x590e43e4.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[14:04:04] <noizex> need to fix your state, it seems to be quite random right now[14:04:18] <noizex> probably will have to completly reset everything possible before and after nanogui as you don't control it[14:06:13] *** afl_ext <afl_ext!~afl_ext3@dvy42.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined ##OpenGL[14:06:13] *** afl_ext <afl_ext!~afl_ext3@dvy42.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Changing host)[14:06:13] *** afl_ext <afl_ext!~afl_ext3@unaffiliated/afl-ext/x-2796036> has joined ##OpenGL[14:06:29] *** unreal <unreal!~unreal@unaffiliated/unreal> has joined ##OpenGL[14:06:35] *** Th30n <Th30n!~Th30n@78-0-207-117.adsl.net.t-com.hr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[14:09:39] *** Suchorski <Suchorski!regex@unaffiliated/suchorski> has quit IRC ()[14:14:04] <}> ugh... 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Check texture size.[16:18:33] <Forlorn> and it is all black[16:18:33] <Forlorn> hmm[16:18:46] <Forlorn> http://sprunge.us/NREM[16:18:52] <Forlorn> this is my code (very short)[16:19:15] *** korans <korans!~korans@62.68.160.220> has joined ##OpenGL[16:19:25] <Forlorn> could you possibly tell me what's wrong with it?[16:20:51] *** eivarv <eivarv!~eivarv@cm-84.215.4.97.getinternet.no> has quit IRC (Quit: Sleep)[16:22:41] *** nikki93 <nikki93!~nikki93@2601:645:8104:cb10:b54d:e249:44ee:80fc> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[16:23:34] *** Lucretia <Lucretia!~laguest@pdpc/supporter/active/lucretia> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:24:32] *** nolash <nolash!~nolash@fablab-gw.bsa1-r1.syseleven.net> has joined ##OpenGL[16:28:58] *** nikki93 <nikki93!~nikki93@2601:645:8104:cb10:b54d:e249:44ee:80fc> has joined ##OpenGL[16:30:18] <}> Forlorn, didnt read much of the code but youre passsing 0, 0 to png_texture_load were 0, 0 is width/height[16:30:27] <}> also why the hell are you manually loading textures[16:30:39] <Forlorn> is there another way to load textures?[16:31:04] <Forlorn> http://www.opengl-tutorial.org/beginners-tutorials/tutorial-5-a-textured-cube/[16:31:06] <}> I'm guessing there's about 9 trillion libraries out there that load textures[16:31:10] <Forlorn> this tutorial uses loadBMP_custom[16:31:11] *** Lucretia <Lucretia!~laguest@pdpc/supporter/active/lucretia> has joined ##OpenGL[16:31:15] <Forlorn> I use libpng[16:32:08] <}> That huge ass function is just calling libpng?[16:32:09] <Forlorn> }, yeah, the passing of width and height does not matter they are only pointers[16:32:18] <Forlorn> }, yup, found it online[16:32:23] <Forlorn> and returns a texture[16:32:26] <Forlorn> ID[16:32:58] *** Tee_Pee <Tee_Pee!uid23783@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tjsfmkmuokfwszbs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[16:33:00] <Forlorn> the width and height are there to retrieve texture w/h not to apply it[16:33:28] *** t0by <t0by!~t0by@host97-245-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:34:00] *** wolfcub <wolfcub!~henrique_@189.113.71.94> has joined ##OpenGL[16:34:14] *** Tee_Pee <Tee_Pee!uid23783@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ojpclnjizqwffazm> has joined ##OpenGL[16:34:46] <Forlorn> also note that this is not C++[16:34:48] <Forlorn> it is pure C[16:34:51] *** t0by <t0by!~t0by@host97-245-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined ##OpenGL[16:35:26] <}> Assuming all the png loading part is correct I'm guessing the issue is either bassping GL_RGB instead of GL_RGB8/GL_RGBA8 for the first parameter or maybe the texture has to be power of 2 sized[16:35:35] <}> err[16:35:46] <}> s/either bassping/passing/[16:35:51] *** groton <groton!~groton@unaffiliated/groton> has quit IRC (Quit: groton)[16:35:54] <}> Somehow copy pasted in the middle of a sentence[16:36:24] <}> Forlorn, As a test, maybe a simple 1 pixel texture, like GLubyte pixel[4] = {255, 0, 0, 255} and try loading it[16:36:39] *** nikki93 <nikki93!~nikki93@2601:645:8104:cb10:b54d:e249:44ee:80fc> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:36:46] <}> Forlorn, And use GL_RGBA8, GL_RGBA, GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE as parameters to laod that[16:37:17] *** nikki93 <nikki93!~nikki93@2601:645:8104:cb10:b54d:e249:44ee:80fc> has joined ##OpenGL[16:37:53] *** crankslider <crankslider!~slidercra@unaffiliated/slidercrank> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[16:38:55] <Forlorn> }, http://sprunge.us/XFYT[16:38:56] <Forlorn> like so?[16:39:16] <Forlorn> 256, 256 (width/height)[16:39:23] <}> RGBA8[16:39:29] <}> 1/1 width/height, its oen pixel[16:39:38] <}> first param RGBA8, second RGBA[16:40:04] <}> that should always work[16:40:10] <Forlorn> glTexImage2D(GL_TEXTURE_2D, 0, GL_RGBA8, 256, 256, 0, GL_RGBA, GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE, pixel)[16:40:51] <}> why the hell are you typing 256[16:40:54] <}> when its one pixel[16:41:45] *** nikki93 <nikki93!~nikki93@2601:645:8104:cb10:b54d:e249:44ee:80fc> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:41:49] <Forlorn> ok[16:41:51] <Forlorn> I typed 1, 1[16:42:00] <Forlorn> glTexImage2D(GL_TEXTURE_2D, 0, GL_RGBA8, 1, 1, 0, GL_RGBA, GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE, pixel)[16:42:05] <Forlorn> however I still get the same problem[16:42:12] <Forlorn> GL: Texture state usage warning: Texture 0 is base level inconsistent. Check texture size.[16:42:49] <}> you dont do any error checking anywhere, check the return value of whats returned by glgentextures[16:43:16] <}> glTexParameterf is also wrong[16:43:23] <}> it should be glTexParameteri since glTexParameterf is for floating points[16:44:11] <slime> doesn't really matter that much[16:44:40] <}> i thought gltexparamterf is for setting anisotropic filtering value[16:45:24] <}> GL_TEXTURE_MAX_ANISOTROPY_EXT i mean[16:45:30] <slime> it can be used for that[16:45:45] <}> Forlorn, also you have a neat error checking function in your code but you never call it[16:46:41] <slime> }, the opengl debug callback is used[16:47:24] <slime> Forlorn: are you sure the texture loading code is what's generating that debug message?[16:47:55] <slime> you can set a breakpoint inside your debug callback function to see the callstack and find out which GL function is causing it[16:47:56] <Forlorn> if (glGetError() != GL_NO_ERROR) return 0;[16:48:12] <Forlorn> no errors[16:48:29] <slime> yes, the debug message isn't caused by a GL error[16:48:39] <slime> necessarily[16:50:11] <}> Forlorn, yeah but you call png_texture_load after the glGetError block, so it doesnt check the texture part[16:50:13] <Forlorn> glClear(GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT | GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT)[16:50:16] <Forlorn> causes the error[16:50:26] <}> o_O[16:50:40] <Forlorn> glDrawArrays(GL_TRIANGLES, 0, 2*3)[16:50:42] <Forlorn> also causes the error[16:51:12] <Forlorn> }, that's what I did[16:51:32] <}> i didnt know glclear can even set an error state[16:51:36] <Forlorn> How would you do it?[16:52:07] <Forlorn> draw a texture onto a square made up by two triangles[16:52:14] <slime> }, this is an opengl debug message, not necessarily an error state[16:52:19] <slime> or rather, a driver debug message[16:52:32] <}> is that the 4.2 debug extension?[16:52:40] <Forlorn> yes[16:52:42] <}> oh[16:52:52] <slime> it's core in 4.3[16:52:52] <slime> but yes[16:53:04] <}> im using core 3.3 so not really familiar with that one[16:53:05] <Forlorn> sorry[16:53:07] <Forlorn> I am using 4.3[16:53:24] <Forlorn> I see[16:53:31] <}> Forlorn, theres a github repo with opengl examples, the earlier examples is just drawing 2 triangles maybe that will help[16:53:44] <slime> what's your shader code?[16:53:46] <Forlorn> drawing two triangles I have done[16:53:53] <Forlorn> but drawing texture :/[16:54:13] *** korans <korans!~korans@62.68.160.220> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[16:54:15] <Forlorn> http://sprunge.us/dFVT[16:54:26] <Forlorn> http://sprunge.us/ZHXc[16:54:41] <Forlorn> the first one is the frag, second is the vert- shader[16:54:50] *** match_ita <match_ita!~Giovanni@dynamic-adsl-78-14-225-215.clienti.tiscali.it> has joined ##OpenGL[16:55:43] <}> uhm[16:55:56] *** Yaniel <Yaniel!yanielkolm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-hsvpobjoialzzpnj> has quit IRC (Changing host)[16:55:56] *** Yaniel <Yaniel!yanielkolm@unaffiliated/yaniel> has joined ##OpenGL[16:55:56] *** Yaniel <Yaniel!yanielkolm@unaffiliated/yaniel> has quit IRC (Changing host)[16:55:56] *** Yaniel <Yaniel!yanielkolm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-hsvpobjoialzzpnj> has joined ##OpenGL[16:56:35] <}> i would try layout(location= 0) out vec4 color; instead of out vec3 color, and remove .rgb to output a vec4[16:58:18] <}> i should probably make a branch of my code to use the 4.3 debugging utilities and then merge everything unelated to debugging back to the 3.3 branch[16:58:21] <Forlorn> that didn't help[16:58:24] *** ImQ009 <ImQ009!~ImQ009@unaffiliated/imq009> has joined ##OpenGL[16:58:52] <}> Forlorn, so you still get that strange error after glclear?[16:59:05] <Forlorn> yes[16:59:13] <Forlorn> and after draw triangles[16:59:30] <Forlorn> also the square is just black[16:59:30] *** doomlord <doomlord!~textual@host86-142-61-36.range86-142.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[16:59:31] <Forlorn> no color[16:59:36] <slime> glUniform1i takes a texture unit index, not a texture handle[16:59:42] <slime> so you'd pass 0 instead of tex[16:59:48] <}> oh good catch slime[17:00:12] <slime> the texture() call in the shader will then sample from the texture bound to that texture unit index[17:00:28] <Forlorn> slime, what if I have two textures?[17:00:34] <Forlorn> How can I reference one over the other?[17:00:45] <slime> bind the one you want to use to that texture unit[17:00:47] <}> Forlorn, you set glActiveTexture(GL_TEXTURE0 + texture_unit_id) for each one, and then pass the chosen texture_unit_id[17:01:05] <slime> or, bind each to their own texture unit, and then call glUniform to update the sampler's texture unit index[17:01:18] <}> so your first texture would be (GL_TEXTURE0 + 0) and the second would be (GL_TEXTURE0 + 1)[17:01:24] *** korans <korans!~korans@62.68.160.220> has joined ##OpenGL[17:01:48] <}> and then you pass 0 to one sampler and 1 to the other[17:02:19] <}> hey slime, any idea how many texure units are typically available on various hardware?[17:02:33] <slime> 16 per shader stage, usually[17:02:46] <}> I get GL_MAX_TEXTURE_IMAGE_UNITS= 32 reported for my integrated card[17:03:06] <}> hmm[17:03:27] <}> if I use 16 I could reduce some state changes[17:03:33] <}> I'm only using 6 now[17:03:41] <slime> 32 for fragment shaders is also common[17:03:57] <slime> Array Textures are pretty good for reducing the number of texture bindings you need to do[17:04:02] <slime> https://www.opengl.org/wiki/Array_Texture[17:04:09] <}> Those are like fancy texture atlases right?[17:04:40] <derhass> yes and no[17:07:05] <}> I'm actually impressed how good integrated cards seem to be, I'm curretnly rendering 1000 cubes with 20 lights at 200 fps, with the lights moving each frame[17:07:45] *** ville <ville!~ville@37-136-51-33.rev.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[17:08:08] <Forlorn> Thanks a lot![17:08:15] *** ville <ville!~ville@37-136-51-33.rev.dnainternet.fi> has joined ##OpenGL[17:09:05] <Forlorn> I am gonna try to make a pixel drawing program with only hotkeys (no-gui)[17:09:23] <}> Pixel drawing program with hotkeys? What does that mean[17:09:36] <Forlorn> would a good idea be manipulating the png directly and then refreshing the texture?[17:09:50] <Yaniel> no[17:09:53] <Forlorn> with the png I mean the raw buffer that has been loaded into memory[17:10:14] <Yaniel> that is a very different thing[17:10:18] <}> Well you only need to "refresh" the part that has been drawn[17:10:19] <Forlorn> }, like MS Paint but without any GUI[17:10:27] <Yaniel> and yes that's a better idea[17:10:37] <Yaniel> or you could do the painting on the GPU[17:10:45] <Yaniel> using a FBO[17:10:56] <Forlorn> I am not using the GPU right now?[17:11:11] <}> He means drawing to texture in the shader vs drawing on the CPU side[17:11:26] <}> You would pass your mouse position to the shader and draw to texture, then render the texture[17:11:54] <}> That technique can let you do some really cool stuff, i.e. I saw pacman implemented entirely in the shader[17:12:27] <}> Oh[17:12:35] <}> I just realized I have a very big problem[17:13:21] <Yaniel> do the drawing with opengl[17:13:38] <}> I finally integrated nanogui into my opengl context... but it wont draw a cursor if I set glfwSetInputMode(window, GLFW_CURSOR, GLFW_CURSOR_DISABLED), however if I don't disable the cursor I don't get mosue events when scrolling past the end of the screen....[17:13:42] *** razieliyo <razieliyo!~razieliyo@unaffiliated/razieliyo> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[17:13:44] <Yaniel> as in draw GL_POINTS or GL_LINES into a FBO that has your texture bound as a target[17:13:55] <Yaniel> then blit that texture to the screen[17:14:15] <Forlorn> I can draw to the texture that is loaded onto the GPU?[17:14:34] <Forlorn> like with OpenGL, or do I have to use like CUDA for that? (I don't have enough knowledge)[17:14:50] <Yaniel> that's precisely what Framebuffer Objects are for[17:14:55] <Yaniel> aka FBOs[17:14:57] <Forlorn> I see[17:15:04] * Forlorn googles.[17:15:45] <Yaniel> in fact sometimes the only way to use opengl is to render your scene to a texture[17:16:11] <roxlu> hey, does someone knows a good article how to create a native windows + opengl context on win? (3.3+)[17:16:17] <Yaniel> for example if you don't have a display and only want to dump drames to disk (usually for assembling into a video)[17:16:26] <Yaniel> roxlu: any tutorial that uses GLFW[17:16:33] *** tambre <tambre!~tambre@a0b6-5e38-7055-3c57-a980-8a3e-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:16:36] <Yaniel> or even the docs on glfw.org[17:16:50] <Yaniel> unless you really want to play with the WINAPI directly[17:16:53] <}> Forlorn, Theres 3 ways : 1. draw on the CPU (set pixels of your texture by replacing a sub buffer) 2. draw entirely on the GPU to your own framebuffer with shaders (passing mouse position to shader) 3. call rendering commands on the CPU (i.e. render points) then save the image you get to a texture[17:17:07] <roxlu> Yaniel: I meant one which doesn't use a 3rd party lib[17:17:19] <}> roxlu, google X11 opengl context and winapi opengl context[17:17:29] <}> it's entirely pointless and a huge waste of time, good luck[17:17:32] <Yaniel> Forlorn: also iOS has never given you a context with a system framebuffer, so you have to render to a texture and tell the OS to blit that to the screen[17:18:10] <Yaniel> roxlu: what } said, WINAPI and WGL are your keywords[17:18:15] <Forlorn> oh, that's insightful[17:18:17] <Forlorn> thanks[17:18:25] <}> Yaniel, ios doesnt give you glBindFramebuffer(GL_FRAMEBUFFER, 0); ?[17:18:27] <Forlorn> }, I am going for no. 2.[17:18:28] *** tambre <tambre!~tambre@7dda-5a29-6383-9079-a980-8a3e-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined ##OpenGL[17:18:29] <roxlu> thanks[17:19:24] <Yaniel> }: no. not sure if everything drawn to fbo 0 goes to /dev/null silently or if flat out errors[17:19:45] <}> wow thats lame[17:19:51] *** tristans1 <tristans1!~tristanse@128.194.3.4> has joined ##OpenGL[17:20:16] <Yaniel> meh[17:20:22] <Yaniel> vulkan actually does the same :D[17:20:43] <}> I guess it doesn't matter much, setting up a framebuffer is just a few lines of code[17:20:49] <Yaniel> or rather, vulkan does not even specify anything related to actually displaying things[17:20:56] <Yaniel> that's the WSI's job[17:21:35] <Yaniel> like it should have always been[17:21:39] <slime> Yaniel: well, actually in ios you create a renderbuffer and then tell the system to use that object handle for the GL context drawable's storage[17:21:40] *** ArkaZeen <ArkaZeen!~ArkaZeen@CPE00fc8dcba053-CM00fc8dcba050.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has joined ##OpenGL[17:22:08] <slime> (the system still does the allocation, in other words)[17:22:23] <Yaniel> still a buffer you have to create yourself[17:22:43] <slime> the handle, yeah[17:22:48] <}> It's not strictly opengl related so I suppose it's off topic, but any idea how to resolve my glfw+nanogui mouse issue? ^[17:23:21] <Yaniel> I'd ask #glfw or consult its docs re mouse behaviour[17:23:24] <}> I either disable mouse cursor which makes nanogui not respond to mouse or i cant scroll past end of screen[17:23:36] <}> alright[17:23:39] <Yaniel> scroll?[17:23:43] <Yaniel> as in with the scroll wheel?[17:23:56] <}> no, as in moving the mouse to the edge of the screen[17:23:57] *** mukunda <mukunda!mukunda@c-71-205-185-63.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined ##OpenGL[17:23:59] <Yaniel> ah[17:24:07] <}> glfw stops sending mouse events if i dont disable the cursor[17:24:11] <Yaniel> that is because the cursor is confined within the window[17:24:32] <}> basically I somehow want to keep cursor, but be able to scroll indefinitely[17:24:43] <Yaniel> you have to do what everyone in the FPS scene does and rely on relative mouse events[17:24:51] <Yaniel> draw your own cursor[17:25:11] <}> Hmm I wonder if that would work with nanogui, I'll try it[17:25:20] <}> Center the mouse each frame and calculate deltas based on that[17:26:27] <Yaniel> I believe GLFW has delta events too[17:26:35] <Yaniel> or at least there has been talk of them[17:26:52] <}> I checked the APIs and found only 3 different mouse "modes" but nothing about getting deltas[17:27:44] <}> termbin.com/sx3m this is what i've been doing so far[17:27:59] *** tristans1 <tristans1!~tristanse@128.194.3.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[17:29:01] *** tristans1 <tristans1!~tristanse@128.194.3.4> has joined ##OpenGL[17:29:51] <Forlorn> so from what I understand so far, you can pre render a frame and choose to draw it to screen or read its pixels.[17:30:26] <Forlorn> is that correct?[17:30:39] <Yaniel> well, technically yes[17:30:45] *** Th30n <Th30n!~Th30n@78-0-207-117.adsl.net.t-com.hr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:30:52] <Yaniel> FBOs are just surfaces you can render to with OpenGL[17:31:09] <Forlorn> ah I see[17:31:11] <Yaniel> you can attach textures as the actual target for the rendered image[17:31:15] <Yaniel> or renderbuffers[17:31:21] *** korans <korans!~korans@62.68.160.220> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[17:31:34] <Yaniel> renderbuffers are like textures but you can't sample them[17:31:36] *** Albori <Albori!~Albori@64-15-83-167.fidnet.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[17:32:46] *** afl_ext <afl_ext!~afl_ext3@unaffiliated/afl-ext/x-2796036> has joined ##OpenGL[17:32:49] <Forlorn> hmm, so what I need to do is to have an FBO that takes a uniform mouse position each cycle and then draw a pixel onto that FBO based on the mouse position.[17:33:09] <Forlorn> But that's for "one" FBO, don't I need to merge the pixel on the next FBO cycle?[17:33:21] <Yaniel> you can use the same FBO again[17:33:21] <Forlorn> or can I just append pixels onto one single FBO as many times as I please?[17:33:29] <Forlorn> ah[17:33:32] <Yaniel> and FBOs don't know anything about uniforms[17:33:33] <Forlorn> as long as I don't clear it[17:33:33] <Forlorn> I get it[17:33:38] *** korans <korans!~korans@62.68.160.220> has joined ##OpenGL[17:33:59] <Yaniel> basically if your textures are harddisks for data storage[17:34:06] <Yaniel> the FBO is a rack where you can plug disks in and wire them up[17:34:18] *** Albori <Albori!~Albori@64-15-82-48.fidnet.com> has joined ##OpenGL[17:34:41] <Yaniel> and your shader is the program running on an attached computer[17:35:12] <Yaniel> yeah textures keep their data until cleared :P[17:35:14] <Forlorn> arguments/uniforms -> shader program -> FBO ?[17:35:24] <Yaniel> yep[17:35:39] <Yaniel> vertex attributes / uniforms are inputs to the vertex shader[17:36:15] <Yaniel> which can have any number of outputs, plus gl_Position, which is always implicitly defined and must always be assigned a value[17:36:51] <Yaniel> then the next shader stages have inputs according to what the previous stage outputs[17:36:55] <Forlorn> Yaniel, what is the last step called if we don't draw to the FBO? Arguments -> shader program -> (??)[17:37:12] <Yaniel> and fragment shader outputs wired to the currently bound FBO[17:37:40] <Yaniel> there's a sort-of FBO with the id 0[17:37:51] <Yaniel> which is the system framebuffer[17:37:57] <Yaniel> i.e. your screen[17:38:09] <Forlorn> so the graphical context on glfw for instance is an FBO?[17:38:17] <Yaniel> no[17:38:27] <Forlorn> ah[17:38:34] <Forlorn> so that is the system framebuffer?[17:38:40] <Yaniel> GLFW gives you a window with a system framebuffer[17:38:48] <Forlorn> ah, that makes sense[17:39:01] *** korans <korans!~korans@62.68.160.220> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[17:39:11] <Forlorn> so if I draw to the FBO I can then also draw to the SFB[17:39:15] <Yaniel> and what I was saying, an alternative to drawing a fullscreen quad is using glBlitFramebuffer[17:39:33] <Yaniel> which is like glCopyTexImage2D but for FBOs[17:39:40] <Yaniel> which includes the system framebuffer[17:41:23] *** harha_ <harha_!harha_@y55.ip4.netikka.fi> has joined ##OpenGL[17:41:51] *** korans <korans!~korans@62.68.160.220> has joined ##OpenGL[17:45:12] <Forlorn> that's great![17:45:23] *** pragma- <pragma-!~chaos@unaffiliated/pragmatic-chaos> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[17:45:53] *** knmt <knmt!~k@69.63.37.65> has joined ##OpenGL[17:46:13] <Forlorn> so I can draw a scene onto a FBO and then use it as a texture onto a square if I wanted to, to simulate a projected photograph[17:46:52] <Yaniel> yup[17:47:11] *** sandeepkr_ <sandeepkr_!~sandeepkr@111.235.65.5> has joined ##OpenGL[17:48:01] <Forlorn> oh[17:48:06] <Forlorn> is this used to make viewports as well?[17:48:50] <Forlorn> different viewports I mean, like useful if you want to be able to have different points of view onto the same scene[17:49:04] <Yaniel> no, viewports are a different thing[17:49:16] <Yaniel> you can have many viewports in one framebuffer[17:49:23] <Forlorn> What about like portals in the game portal?[17:49:31] <C-Man> I need to pass matrices per instance , what's the best way to do it ? uniform buffer objects ? per instance attributes ?[17:49:39] <C-Man> plain uniform arrays ?[17:49:44] <Yaniel> portals? you can use FBOs[17:49:52] <Yaniel> or you can use a stencil mask[17:50:02] <Yaniel> portal did the latter AFAIK[17:50:41] *** sandeepkr__ <sandeepkr__!~sandeepkr@103.49.155.114> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:50:50] *** konom <konom!~tamatias@bzq-84-108-63-8.cablep.bezeqint.net> has joined ##OpenGL[17:50:54] *** kuldeep_ <kuldeep_!~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[17:50:56] <knmt> just ran into a bug where i accidentally shadowed a variable, was very difficult to track down. is there a parser that can catch this stuff?[17:51:19] <}> C-Man, i pass them in a vertex buffer[17:51:27] <}> it works ok[17:51:39] *** kuldeep_ <kuldeep_!~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka> has joined ##OpenGL[17:51:46] <}> like, I have a separate vertex buffer only for per-instance transforms[17:51:49] <C-Man> can you pass matrices a vertex attributes without splitting them into vectors[17:51:50] <C-Man> ?[17:52:00] <}> what[17:52:24] <}> knmt, clang and gcc will warn you if you use the correct warning settings[17:52:28] *** sandeepkr <sandeepkr!~sandeepkr@103.49.155.114> has joined ##OpenGL[17:52:33] <C-Man> like glVertexAttribPointer only lets you specify 4 x float[17:52:38] <}> knmt, -Wshadow for clang/gcc[17:52:38] <C-Man> where a matrix would be 12 x float[17:53:11] <knmt> you pass shaders through clang/gcc? never thought to try haha[17:53:14] <}> C-Man, you use matrix in the shader, but on the CPU side setup 4 vertex attributes with vec4s[17:53:18] <}> knmt, oh wait[17:53:24] <}> knmt, i thought you meant in normal code, sorry[17:53:43] <}> C-Man, the shader doesnt need to know about the vec4s[17:53:57] <C-Man> so it will take up 4 consequtive slots ?[17:54:03] <Forlorn> ah, so I would just use glViewport if I want multiple viewports for a framebuffer[17:54:13] <}> C-Man, yeah, I'll show you an example from my code[17:54:24] <C-Man> *consecutive[17:54:31] *** KAHR-Alpha <KAHR-Alpha!~Alpha@AReims-652-1-187-168.w92-142.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[17:54:36] <}> http://termbin.com/dpqx[17:54:41] <C-Man> what is the slot limit typically ?[17:54:56] <}> slot limit?[17:55:11] <C-Man> like how many per vertex/per instance attributes can you have[17:55:11] <C-Man> ?[17:55:35] <C-Man> i mean i know it's hardware dependent but i don't have all the hardware in the world[17:55:36] <C-Man> to test[17:55:37] <C-Man> XD[17:55:40] <}> you can query opengl to tell you GL_MAX_VERTEX_ATTRIBS[17:55:42] *** sandeepkr_ <sandeepkr_!~sandeepkr@111.235.65.5> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[17:56:04] <}> I get 16[17:56:17] <C-Man> wow that's tight[17:56:28] <}> what? that's 16*4 floats[17:56:33] <}> per vertex[17:56:41] <knmt> clang-check does not like glsl code[17:56:46] <C-Man> well you share it per instance[17:56:56] <C-Man> like if you needed 4 matrices[17:56:58] <C-Man> for example[17:57:00] <}> right per instance[17:57:03] *** ratchetfreak <ratchetfreak!~ratchetfr@ptr-2hj4tbosgukodsv7yxuwi70fy.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:57:12] <}> why the hell would you need 4 matrices[17:57:15] <}> =\[17:57:17] <C-Man> 4 matrices = 4 x 4 = 165[17:57:20] <C-Man> *16[17:57:24] <C-Man> and that's[17:57:24] <C-Man> it[17:57:28] <C-Man> you can't have anything more[17:57:28] *** ratchetfreak <ratchetfreak!~ratchetfr@ptr-2hj4tbosgukodsv7yxuwi70fy.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined ##OpenGL[17:57:35] *** Lemml <Lemml!andreas@p3E9C32DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined ##OpenGL[17:57:36] <}> no you can have more in uniform buffers[17:57:40] <}> and textures[17:57:52] <}> but why would you even need 4 matrices *per instance*?[17:57:57] <C-Man> hmm maybe i could use a buffer texture[17:58:03] <Yaniel> skeletal animation, }[17:58:11] <slime> http://www.yosoygames.com.ar/wp/2015/01/uniform-buffers-vs-texture-buffers-the-2015-edition/[17:58:14] <C-Man> well that'd be one reason[17:59:04] *** pragma- <pragma-!~chaos@unaffiliated/pragmatic-chaos> has joined ##OpenGL[17:59:43] *** Yarne <Yarne!~Yarne@82-71-4-25.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[17:59:44] *** Th30n <Th30n!~Th30n@78-0-207-117.adsl.net.t-com.hr> has joined ##OpenGL[18:00:01] <}> damn skeletons ruining everything[18:00:27] <}> I prefer ghost animation, less bones[18:00:43] <}> :-)[18:01:17] <}> Oh[18:02:06] *** t0by <t0by!~t0by@host97-245-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!)[18:02:30] *** stefkos <stefkos!~stefkos@pc11-226.chomiczowka.waw.pl> has joined ##OpenGL[18:04:17] *** Codex2 <Codex2!~terop@91-157-91-164.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:05:39] *** match_ita <match_ita!~Giovanni@dynamic-adsl-78-14-225-215.clienti.tiscali.it> has quit IRC (Quit: It 's better to be optimistic and be wrong , than to be pessimistic and to be right - Albert Einstein)[18:06:07] <}> I wonder if there's a place to download signed distance field fonts, so I don't have to generate anything[18:06:31] <}> Would be interesting to compare the rendering speed with nanogui which seems to do vector graphics on the GPU somehow[18:06:43] *** DrGonzo <DrGonzo!~DrBenway@216-195-126-200.fibertel.com.ar> has joined ##OpenGL[18:07:42] <Yaniel> there are generators for sdf fonts[18:07:47] <Yaniel> but I don't think any ready textures[18:08:04] <C-Man> me and a co-worker did vector fonts for hackweek this year, it's a clever trick but totally doable[18:08:24] *** DrBenway <DrBenway!~DrBenway@216-195-126-200.fibertel.com.ar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[18:08:32] <}> It seems if you have the fonts its a trivial shader to render them[18:08:37] <}> The operation is very simple[18:09:15] <C-Man> the method we found used a texture to encode bezier curve data[18:09:35] <C-Man> then the shader would ray cast inside a unit circle[18:09:37] <}> Oh I meant distance field fonts* vector fonts sounds very hard[18:09:45] <C-Man> to find collisions within the circle[18:10:18] <C-Man> then calculate how far out from the center are the collisions[18:10:28] <C-Man> and how much of the ray is on / off[18:10:37] <C-Man> and how much of the ray is "on" or "off"[18:10:42] <C-Man> *[18:10:54] <}> Did the texture just contain a few floats per glyph? And then evaluate the bezier curve on the shader?[18:10:56] <C-Man> then average these results over say 16 casts[18:10:58] <C-Man> within the circle[18:11:02] <C-Man> to get an alpha value[18:11:18] <C-Man> it would chop up the glyph[18:11:23] <C-Man> into several slices[18:11:30] <C-Man> for fast searching[18:11:39] <C-Man> then would store bezier curves[18:11:44] <C-Man> for each slice[18:11:58] <C-Man> as a few points[18:12:05] <C-Man> i think it was a fixed point 16bit[18:12:11] <C-Man> rather then a float[18:12:13] <C-Man> for compactness[18:12:15] <}> That sounds awfully slow to render[18:12:21] <}> And hard to implement :([18:12:26] <C-Man> it was actually pretty decent[18:12:38] <C-Man> i mean the demo was like a 800 page pdf[18:12:45] <C-Man> and all rendered in one go[18:12:55] <C-Man> and it'd run fine[18:12:58] <C-Man> on like a macbook pro[18:13:02] <C-Man> with a radeon card[18:13:04] <}> C-Man, I wonder if nanosvg does the same to render? https://jb55.com/s/nanovg-svg.mp4[18:13:11] <C-Man> it could be[18:13:37] <C-Man> the only downside was shimmering when the slices would cover less then a pixel[18:13:47] <C-Man> but for that there was a fall back[18:13:51] <C-Man> to a rendered texture[18:15:25] <}> Hmm[18:15:47] <C-Man> now if i could only find the article/demo[18:15:49] <C-Man> we based it on[18:16:08] <C-Man> http://wdobbie.com/post/gpu-text-rendering-with-vector-textures/[18:16:11] <C-Man> there we go[18:16:18] <}> I'm not 100% sure I understand, there was only one circle ber glyph?[18:16:44] <C-Man> no no[18:16:48] <C-Man> a circle per pixel[18:16:48] <}> Oh thanks for the link[18:16:53] <}> Oh that makes a lot more sense[18:17:10] <C-Man> it'd figure out what slice the pixel belongs to[18:17:28] <C-Man> then ray cast in 16 directions[18:17:34] <C-Man> within a unit circle[18:17:37] <C-Man> covering that pixel[18:17:57] <C-Man> http://wdobbie.com/post/gpu-text-rendering-with-vector-textures-details/[18:18:17] <}> That is a very cool technique C-Man[18:18:30] <C-Man> yeah welll i didn't invent it[18:18:31] <C-Man> but yeah[18:18:34] <C-Man> it's cool[18:21:15] <}> I'm trying to do something cool as well but it's not giving me the results I want :-([18:21:32] <C-Man> ;([18:22:05] <}> Trying to render a projectile that generates a gravity-well effect around it, that part isnt hard, what I can't seem to do is make a trail behind the projectile where the gravity well diminishes over time[18:22:30] <}> I tried rendering a bunch of projectiles with decreasingly smaller wells but the small ones influence the big one too and it all goea wrong[18:23:11] <C-Man> a matrix-y-ish kind of effect[18:23:11] <C-Man> ?[18:23:26] <}> It's like... uhm[18:24:16] *** doomlord <doomlord!~textual@host86-142-61-36.range86-142.btcentralplus.com> has joined ##OpenGL[18:24:19] <C-Man> like when neo doges bullets?[18:25:05] <}> No it's like that episode where homer simpson falls into a wormhole https://youtu.be/DpJSY9jhaJk?t=265 kind of, my issue is that I want it to leave "trail" behind the projectile[18:25:42] <}> Currently im doing -1/((pos.x * pos.x + pos.y * pos.y) + projectile.gravity) in the vertex shader, and that works fine, but it has no "trail" in the direction it was moving[18:26:08] <C-Man> can't quite immagine[18:26:12] <C-Man> how it should look[18:26:40] <}> You know if you move your hand in the water, it has a big ripple in the center where you touch the water, and then leaves a trail behind it? gradually smaller[18:26:47] <}> Something like that[18:27:29] <C-Man> can you show me how it looks now[18:27:29] <C-Man> :O[18:28:14] <}> It doesn't really work now since I had to disable the mouse (can't make it quite work with nanogui)... I can try to find an old version in my git repo[18:28:19] <}> One sec[18:28:58] *** Ad1_RN <Ad1_RN!~Ad1_RnR@public-gprs173096.centertel.pl> has joined ##OpenGL[18:29:38] *** SorcererX <SorcererX!~SorcererX@cm-84.212.210.160.getinternet.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:31:41] <}> yeah I found an old working version, just gotta upload a video to gfycat[18:35:26] <C-Man> awesome[18:41:21] *** abs25 <abs25!~abs25@141-136-166-19.dsl.iskon.hr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[18:42:17] *** Nyaniel <Nyaniel!yaniel@evo.paivola.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[18:42:36] *** Nyaniel <Nyaniel!yaniel@unaffiliated/yaniel> has joined ##OpenGL[18:42:51] <}> C-Man, Stupid gfycat refused to upload video, I put it on pomf https://a.pomf.cat/jpyqaq.webm ... Basically, notice how the direction the mouse is moving does not influence the effect, I want to have an effect like http://i.imgur.com/Cc5hi6E.jpg[18:43:09] *** Codex2 <Codex2!~terop@91-157-91-164.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined ##OpenGL[18:43:16] <}> I tried 2 methods to achieve that, but both ended up looking bad[18:43:34] <C-Man> looking at it[18:45:02] <C-Man> that looks like a pretty complicated effect to do[18:45:05] <C-Man> in 3d[18:45:50] <}> C-Man, it would look sort of like this http://i.imgur.com/HqNz7rp.jpg[18:46:15] <}> The equation is simple to plot in 3d, but making it animated and have the right direction and.... argh[18:47:18] *** DrBenway <DrBenway!~DrBenway@216-195-126-200.fibertel.com.ar> has joined ##OpenGL[18:48:15] *** Guest48604 <Guest48604!~gbandyein@103.242.189.144> has joined ##OpenGL[18:48:19] *** DrGonzo <DrGonzo!~DrBenway@216-195-126-200.fibertel.com.ar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:49:07] *** upgrdman <upgrdman!~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman> has joined ##OpenGL[18:50:15] *** korans <korans!~korans@62.68.160.220> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[18:50:22] *** Waynes <Waynes!~wayness@23.94.61.168> has joined ##OpenGL[18:50:26] <}> C-Man, my current idea is this, paint a texture while a projectile is moving, and every frame make the texture lighter[18:50:32] <}> and use the texture as a heightmap[18:51:22] <}> This way the texture is painted darkest near the projectile and lighter the farther away it is[18:51:28] <}> Do you think that would work?[18:52:02] <}> I already tried 2 ideas and they didnt work out how I imagined they would :([18:53:51] *** korans <korans!~korans@62.68.160.220> has joined ##OpenGL[18:54:30] <C-Man> oh you mean[18:54:30] <C-Man> like[18:54:38] <C-Man> if a projectile[18:54:42] <C-Man> flies over[18:54:43] <C-Man> some plane[18:54:51] <C-Man> you want it distorted[18:54:54] <C-Man> like a water ripple[18:54:56] <}> Yes![18:55:01] <C-Man> oh well[18:55:12] <C-Man> then you need to have like a 2D buffer[18:55:21] *** razieliyo <razieliyo!~razieliyo@unaffiliated/razieliyo> has joined ##OpenGL[18:55:26] <}> So what do you think about my texture idea, where I paint to a framebuffer a circle around the projectile[18:55:31] <}> And each frame make the entire texture lighter[18:55:42] <C-Man> and apply it as a distortion texture[18:55:45] <}> Yes[18:56:38] <}> I hope it will work :-([18:57:26] <C-Man> well it woun't produce a ripple[18:57:40] <}> I could add a sine wave to the circle radius[18:57:52] <}> Pass the program time as a float to the shader[18:58:11] <C-Man> well you first need to get a texture going[18:58:14] <C-Man> that you can paint in[18:58:16] <C-Man> and apply to a plane[18:58:19] <C-Man> as a distortion map[18:58:22] <}> Well thats easy[18:58:30] <}> I already have all that[18:58:30] <C-Man> but then you need some ripple propagation algorithm[18:58:36] <}> Yeah[18:59:02] *** ShadowIce <ShadowIce!~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:59:27] <}> I'll go experiment some more with it[19:00:08] *** Guest48604 <Guest48604!~gbandyein@103.242.189.144> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:01:03] <Yaniel> waht you could do: blur the texture before drawing the next circle[19:01:57] <C-Man> https://web.archive.org/web/20160201135657/http://freespace.virgin.net/hugo.elias/graphics/x_water.htm[19:03:58] *** } <}!~none@unaffiliated/bsdbeard> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[19:06:46] *** DrGonzo <DrGonzo!~DrBenway@216-195-126-200.fibertel.com.ar> has joined ##OpenGL[19:06:56] *** Murii <Murii!~Murii@86.127.60.21> has quit IRC ()[19:09:15] *** DrBenway <DrBenway!~DrBenway@216-195-126-200.fibertel.com.ar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[19:16:09] *** Ad1_RN <Ad1_RN!~Ad1_RnR@public-gprs173096.centertel.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Wychodzi z Matrixa)[19:19:43] *** rager is now known as bourbon[19:19:52] *** gbandyein 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<Forlorn!~Forlorn@unaffiliated/forlorn> has joined ##OpenGL[21:41:54] <Forlorn> hello, did someone respond to me?[21:42:09] <Forlorn> It seems like I got disconnected (I think)[21:42:47] *** slime <slime!~slime73@hlfxns016cw-142134145118.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.ns.bellaliant.net> has joined ##OpenGL[21:43:10] <derhass> Forlorn: yes, I did[21:43:12] *** zero7 <zero7!sid10708@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-javunizettoajzcl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[21:43:34] <Forlorn> ooh, what did you respond with?[21:43:37] <shirt> Freenode is under attack from DDOS[21:43:49] *** tomaka <tomaka!~tomaka@xvm-244-186.dc2.ghst.net> has joined ##OpenGL[21:44:04] *** ngladitz <ngladitz!~ngladitz@ip4d16d4f0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined ##OpenGL[21:44:04] *** ngladitz <ngladitz!~ngladitz@ip4d16d4f0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:44:04] *** ngladitz <ngladitz!~ngladitz@unaffiliated/ngladitz> has joined ##OpenGL[21:44:07] <Forlorn> Well, that's immature, why would anyone want to do that?[21:44:07] *** Kkiro <Kkiro!~yoo200181@119.192.41.62> has joined ##OpenGL[21:44:07] *** Kkiro <Kkiro!~yoo200181@119.192.41.62> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:44:07] *** Kkiro <Kkiro!~yoo200181@unaffiliated/kkiro> has joined ##OpenGL[21:44:08] *** thoys <thoys!~thoys@546BD364.cm-12-4d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined ##OpenGL[21:44:17] *** akaWolf <akaWolf!~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf> has joined ##OpenGL[21:44:24] *** pushrax <pushrax!pushrax@unaffiliated/pushrax> has joined ##OpenGL[21:44:25] *** Twey <Twey!~twey@unaffiliated/twey> has joined ##OpenGL[21:44:29] <shirt> Forlorn: lots of discussion right now in #freenode[21:44:51] *** joshd <joshd!~joshd@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:e61d:2dff:fe29:f851> has joined ##OpenGL[21:45:06] *** Lorcatar <Lorcatar!~BostonMA1@ip-97-74-6-205.ip.secureserver.net> has joined ##OpenGL[21:45:15] *** MissionCritical <MissionCritical!~MissionCr@unaffiliated/missioncritical> has joined ##OpenGL[21:45:24] *** tterrag 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The rectangle shows with my perspective projection matrix, I don't want to use perspective anymore, but orthographic projection. So I created and applied an orthographic() projection function instead[21:46:56] *** tambry <tambry!~tambre@7dda-5a29-6383-9079-a980-8a3e-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[21:47:07] <Forlorn> but now I can't see my rectangle, I've tried different angles, scaling the rectangle by factor of 100 etc.[21:47:23] <derhass> Forlorn: your ortho setup is totally different from your perspective[21:47:38] <Forlorn> What do you mean?[21:47:51] <Forlorn> orthographic(0.0f, WINDOW_WIDTH, WINDOW_HEIGHT, 0.0f, 0.0f, 1.0f, p)[21:47:56] *** rendar <rendar!~rendar@host35-34-dynamic.37-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:48:15] <derhass> Forlorn: both projections describe some viewing volume[21:48:22] <Forlorn> yeah[21:48:35] <derhass> Forlorn: and thery is only a very tiny overlap between the two viewing volumes[21:48:37] *** AKPWD <AKPWD!AKP@irc.akpwebdesign.com> has joined ##OpenGL[21:48:43] <Forlorn> http://sprunge.us/jDQh[21:48:55] <derhass> so it is very likely that objects visible in one won't be visible in the other[21:49:02] <Forlorn> exactly[21:49:22] <Forlorn> hence the reason why I tuned the model matrix[21:49:25] *** konom_ is now known as konom[21:49:28] <derhass> for example, wy do you use such a different near and far plane?[21:49:29] <Forlorn> to have larger scale etc.[21:49:36] *** phillip_w <phillip_w!~phil@162.243.147.19> has joined ##OpenGL[21:50:07] *** bakingbread <bakingbread!~mlatu@unaffiliated/icedp> has joined ##OpenGL[21:50:29] *** hunt <hunt!~hunt@howm/hunt> has joined ##OpenGL[21:50:38] *** sadtaco <sadtaco!~aaa@2602:306:833b:5980:483f:3b8f:17e5:1d5b> has joined ##OpenGL[21:51:04] <Forlorn> derhass, what is used normally?[21:51:17] <Forlorn> I tried applying what seems to have worked for others[21:51:27] *** Domx_ <Domx_!~Domx@ppp59-167-222-112.qld.adsl.internode.on.net> has joined ##OpenGL[21:51:29] <derhass> I don't think there is some "normal" setup[21:51:41] <derhass> just use what makes sense 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Or do I have to draw the contents to a texture and then to a quad, covering the whole, System Framebuffer?[23:17:27] *** zrl <zrl!sid22717@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qajjrilnxzeyfbtc> has joined ##OpenGL[23:17:53] <derhass> Forlorn: your question doesn't make sense[23:18:01] *** enleeten <enleeten!~nbf@jubal.seventh-sun.com> has joined ##OpenGL[23:18:39] <Forlorn> derhass, which part?[23:18:58] <noizex> maybe he meants blitting?[23:19:08] <derhass> Forlorn: the whole thing[23:19:15] <shirt> yeah, i think he means doing an old-school style blit from a texture directly to the screen buffer[23:19:22] <Forlorn> Yeah, iirc that's how SDL does it? Did it?[23:19:36] <Forlorn> (long time ago I used it though)[23:20:03] <Stragus> You can use the FBO as a texture and draw to the default framebuffer, there's no extra work implied[23:21:19] <Forlorn> ah[23:21:23] <Forlorn> thanks[23:21:43] *** stefkos <stefkos!~stefkos@82.177.144.226> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:21:50] <Stragus> Or you can glBlitFramebuffer(), there are some restrictions involved though, look it up[23:21:58] <Forlorn> or wait[23:22:08] <Forlorn> can I draw to the FBO and the screen buffer simultaneously?[23:22:16] <Forlorn> system framebuffer*[23:22:58] <Forlorn> draw to FBO... Draw same stuff to system framebuffer and more stuff[23:23:45] *** emmanueloga <emmanueloga!sid23099@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lsywrxsiqgwfkqmz> has joined ##OpenGL[23:24:01] *** bove <bove!sid26205@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gawoebgltsumcwaj> has joined ##OpenGL[23:24:19] <Forlorn> So like if I draw a Triangle on FBO and then I want it to draw the same on the default FB and then add additional HUD[23:24:39] *** joel135 <joel135!sid136450@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rrbdtlomtrxucemn> has joined ##OpenGL[23:24:52] <Forlorn> should I just copy code and draw twice, would that be the best choice here?[23:24:56] *** zero7 <zero7!sid10708@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xiefutcxjwtqyees> has joined ##OpenGL[23:25:18] <Forlorn> or nvm I can't do that[23:25:24] <Forlorn> I'll try glBlirFramebuffer thanks[23:25:58] <Stragus> You can draw to multiple framebuffers at once, look up glDrawBuffers() (note the 's' at the end)[23:26:08] *** korans <korans!~korans@62.68.160.220> has joined 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