September 23, 2016 
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it’s baked in[05:35:33] *** SwiftMatt <SwiftMatt!~Objective@209.107.210.96> has joined ##OpenGL[05:39:09] <xaxxon> haha. OpenAL: Simple "if you have written opengl, you know openal". That's not how I'd sell something as simple. 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lightDirection is supposed to be from the surface to the light[18:05:20] <Forlorn> ah[18:05:26] <Forlorn> that makes more sense, thank you[18:05:31] *** DarkGod <DarkGod!~dg@2001:41d0:fe92:8600:385a:b562:f59b:b267> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:05:42] <Yaniel> it trips up a lot of people[18:05:56] <Yaniel> but it should be illustrated in that tutorial[18:06:51] <Forlorn> what tripped me off even more was that if you have a light ray and then it bounces onto a single vertex it then produces and explosion of vertices, which will intersect the eye's retina or a film at more than 1 point.[18:07:15] <Forlorn> that is what happens in reality at least[18:07:23] *** ravior <ravior!~ravior@89.121.200.106> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:07:49] <Forlorn> or at least how we have observed it empirically[18:08:05] <Yaniel> lol not even http://learnopengl.com/#!Lighting/Basic-Lighting shows the directions properly[18:08:11] <Yaniel> ah,, yeah[18:08:28] *** 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<Codex_> usually you should keep the data constant, and just jump between different datasets once per second or so. And shader would interpolate the frames in between.[23:12:00] <_nnead_> void Logo::convertData() { m_count = 0; grid(); if(data3d.size()>0){ int xSize = data3d.at(0).size(); int zSize = data3d.size(); double yMax2, yMin2; if(data3d.at(0).size() > 0){ yMax2 = data3d.at(0).at(0); yMin2 = data3d.at(0).at(0); } for(int i=0; i< data3d.size(); i++) { for(int j=0; j<data3d.at(i).size(); j++) { if(yMax2<data3d.at(i).at(j)) { yMax2 = data3d.at(i).at(j); }[23:12:19] <derhass> _nnead_: use a paste service, don't paste directly to the channel[23:12:32] <_nnead_> how do i use paste service?[23:12:49] <Codex_> http://codepad.org[23:13:10] *** Kingsquee <Kingsquee!~kingsley@d154-20-149-39.bchsia.telus.net> has joined ##OpenGL[23:13:34] <_nnead_> this i my data conversion[23:13:35] <_nnead_> http://codepad.org/vEG5iVod[23:13:56] <afl_ext> logo language implementation?[23:14:25] <_nnead_> Logo is just my class, language is c++ with qt framework and opengl[23:14:42] <afl_ext> ok nvm no problem[23:14:51] <afl_ext> what does that quadShape do?[23:15:51] <_nnead_> it creates a quad shape :D[23:16:47] <_nnead_> http://codepad.org/sz1ATjN4 update with quadShape[23:18:08] <_nnead_> my surface is some kind of high-map (red max, blue min)[23:18:18] <afl_ext> i still dont see even a bit of opengl in it[23:18:26] <_nnead_> *height[23:18:27] <afl_ext> you regenerate this things every frame?[23:18:56] <_nnead_> yup[23:19:09] <afl_ext> you shouldnt do it every frame[23:19:25] <afl_ext> thats the first problem that slows your app a lot[23:20:51] <_nnead_> my openg drawing call is just glDrawArrays(GL_LINES, 0, 132); glDrawArrays(GL_LINES, 132, m_logo.vertexCount());[23:22:18] *** korans <korans!~korans@62.68.160.220> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[23:22:26] *** kasper^ <kasper^!~safaf@82.137.9.212> has joined ##OpenGL[23:22:53] *** ImQ009 <ImQ009!~ImQ009@unaffiliated/imq009> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:23:15] <_nnead_> or here the opengl drawing class[23:23:16] <_nnead_> http://codepad.org/cKeYI9tg[23:25:17] *** Ploppz <Ploppz!~ploppz@2001:700:303:b:f3ce:ca7c:3834:8e44> has joined ##OpenGL[23:25:29] <_nnead_> afl_ext: my surface is moving every frame so the position of the points is changing, i am not sure if i can avoid calculating everthing every frame[23:25:54] <afl_ext> then make points static and translate during rendering on gpu with shaders[23:27:11] <_nnead_> you mean like creating 100.000 points with a predefined position and than just giving them a new height?[23:29:49] *** korans <korans!~korans@62.68.160.220> has joined ##OpenGL[23:33:23] <foobaz> yes[23:33:50] <afl_ext> ^[23:33:52] <foobaz> you could upload the height map as a texture and sample from it at each vertex[23:34:10] <foobaz> if you wanted to get real fancy you could write a tesselation shader to generate your geometry dynamically[23:34:28] <afl_ext> geometry shader probably more approbiate[23:34:30] <foobaz> then you would only draw one quad, and the shader would divide it as far as is necessary given screen resolution etc.[23:34:43] *** xaxxon <xaxxon!~xaxxon@c-24-18-184-142.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[23:35:01] <foobaz> nah geometry shader can't output that much geometry, it's limited to roughly 100 triangles depending on hardware/driver[23:35:18] <_nnead_> well just started using opengl a few days ago so i am still at the very beginning of understanding opengl[23:35:24] <afl_ext> tess also has limits[23:35:25] <foobaz> also geometry shader has a reputation for being slow[23:36:06] *** eivarv <eivarv!~eivarv@cm-84.215.4.97.getinternet.no> has quit IRC (Quit: Sleep)[23:36:15] <afl_ext> its really sad that geo shader is slower than tess[23:36:23] <afl_ext> i would like to understand why this is the case[23:36:29] <foobaz> nice thing about tesselation shader is you get level of detail which improves visual quality[23:36:37] <afl_ext> geo shader can do nice stuff more straightforward than tess[23:37:10] <afl_ext> like you give it a triangle and it will generate grass foliage[23:37:10] *** nolash <nolash!~nolash@ip5f5bf7a9.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined ##OpenGL[23:37:21] <foobaz> it's more general purpose but that's what makes it slow[23:37:55] <_nnead_> ok so a first solution would be create static points (like 1000x1000) and than upload nxm heightvalues and create a shader which translates my points and changes the color[23:38:19] <afl_ext> _nnead_ tell us which version of OGL you target[23:39:01] <afl_ext> like, 4.4[23:39:33] <_nnead_> at the moment 3.3[23:39:57] <afl_ext> then i think you will be best with generating heightvalues texture[23:40:05] <afl_ext> and sample it from shaders[23:40:35] <afl_ext> just update the image every frame[23:40:36] <afl_ext> but also[23:40:47] <_nnead_> what do you mean with "sample it from shaders"[23:40:50] <afl_ext> you can think about updating the data lazily[23:41:12] <afl_ext> i mean in shaders you can read textures, images for example, or values at X Y like height[23:41:20] <afl_ext> like anything, its just numbers[23:41:23] <_nnead_> i am updating the data every 25-40ms[23:41:30] *** stefkos <stefkos!~stefkos@82.177.144.226> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:41:47] <afl_ext> do whole data set change every time or just small portion of it?[23:41:49] *** Forlorn <Forlorn!~Forlorn@unaffiliated/forlorn> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[23:42:06] <afl_ext> because if small, then you need to uplaod only this part to gpu to avoid too much work[23:42:18] <_nnead_> it depends, i am sampling in a range of 1- 1000Hz[23:42:40] <afl_ext> do you already have an array on c++ side with all height values?[23:42:41] <_nnead_> every sample consists of 14.000 datapoints which i downscale to 1000[23:43:11] <afl_ext> i guess you have[23:43:20] <afl_ext> like samples[1000*1000] flat array[23:43:22] *** xaxxon <xaxxon!~xaxxon@c-24-18-184-142.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has joined ##OpenGL[23:43:42] <_nnead_> yes a vector of the last data, but not all 3d data[23:43:43] <afl_ext> then you can directly use it to create texture with red channel float (i guess its float single precision)[23:43:53] <afl_ext> no problem[23:44:06] <afl_ext> you then will need this texture created and accessible from shaders[23:44:24] <afl_ext> then you can create 1 quad, or cube, or whatevr you want draw[23:44:39] <afl_ext> and draw it instances with desires count like 1000*1000[23:45:08] <afl_ext> instance id is accessible from shaders so it will allow you to recreate X and Y of the point you want to draw[23:45:54] <afl_ext> then you sample the texture at this coordinates and you get Z for your object[23:45:56] <afl_ext> and its all[23:46:06] <afl_ext> then you can shade it in fragment shader[23:46:48] <_nnead_> do i have to create a image file for my texture and scale my hightdata?[23:46:55] <_nnead_> *height[23:47:05] *** eivarv <eivarv!~eivarv@cm-84.215.4.97.getinternet.no> has joined ##OpenGL[23:47:13] <afl_ext> you dont need to scale your data if your texture will be in float format[23:47:27] <afl_ext> you neec to create texture, but i dont mean something on disk but on gl side[23:49:19] <_nnead_> what do you mean with "draw it instances with desires count" dont i have to create trianglestripes or something for performance ?[23:49:22] <afl_ext> btw depending on what you are trying to visualzie and how, I think many scenarios can be visualized by fragment shader + texture only[23:49:39] <afl_ext> http://learnopengl.com/#!Advanced-OpenGL/Instancing[23:49:41] <afl_ext> see here[23:49:52] *** kasper^ <kasper^!~safaf@82.137.9.212> has quit IRC ()[23:50:12] *** kasper^ <kasper^!~safaf@82.137.9.212> has joined ##OpenGL[23:50:31] *** Forlorn <Forlorn!~Forlorn@unaffiliated/forlorn> has joined ##OpenGL[23:51:08] <_nnead_> but are the instances connected to each other[23:51:17] <afl_ext> how?[23:51:35] <_nnead_> not sure if the surface will be smooth or consist of many single shapes[23:51:42] <afl_ext> the latter[23:51:47] <afl_ext> many small shapes[23:52:13] <afl_ext> i wonder what to do now...[23:52:27] <_nnead_> but i would like them to be connected (like) at the moment[23:52:57] <_nnead_> is it possible to share an image in irc?[23:52:58] <afl_ext> i think this also can be done with instancing but it will get complex[23:53:05] <afl_ext> no[23:53:06] <afl_ext> use imgur[23:53:36] <afl_ext> if you want connected mesh you can generate you 1000x1000 point mesh, it will be 1000x1000x2 triangles[23:53:48] <afl_ext> and then deform vertices depending on their X Y reading from texture[23:54:56] <afl_ext> btw its 2 million triangles, if you gpu is capable of this amount of triangles @30 fps then it should support opengl 4.3 at least[23:55:08] <afl_ext> and it allows to use SSBO instead of haxy texture way[23:55:45] *** slime <slime!~slime73@hlfxns016cw-142134145118.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.ns.bellaliant.net> has joined ##OpenGL[23:56:06] *** zanakyn <zanakyn!~whelkgt28@2601:402:4400:60a0:9597:a32c:5efd:85f5> has joined ##OpenGL[23:57:11] *** MoZu4k___ <MoZu4k___!~MoZu4k@c-50-142-183-133.hsd1.tn.comcast.net> has joined ##OpenGL[23:57:33] *** MoZu4k__ <MoZu4k__!~MoZu4k@c-50-142-183-133.hsd1.tn.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:59:32] <_nnead_> http://imgur.com/a/45T06[23:59:50] <_nnead_> this is what it looks like now @afl_ext