September 5, 2016 
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September 5, 2016 [00:01:18] *** DrBenway <DrBenway!~DrBenway@190.18.153.73> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:01:39] *** Gama11 <Gama11!~quassel@pD9F9867E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:02:07] *** ClaudiusMaximus <ClaudiusMaximus!~claude@unaffiliated/claudiusmaximus> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[00:02:29] *** monsterjamp <monsterjamp!uid156866@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ptkyrtcmaaqlzrvx> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[00:03:07] <slime> and https://github.com/KhronosGroup/SPIRV-LLVM[00:03:39] *** Guest16138 is now known as shakesoda[00:04:03] *** shakesoda <shakesoda!~shake@excessive.moe> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:04:03] *** shakesoda <shakesoda!~shake@celestiaradio/shark/soda> has joined ##OpenGL[00:04:13] <slime> (which is more interesting because hlsl 6 compiles to llvm ir)[00:05:08] *** mat^2 <mat^2!~Mathias@130.226.161.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:06:26] *** zagabar <zagabar!~zagabar@unaffiliated/zagabar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[00:06:30] *** pa <pa!~pa@unaffiliated/pa> has joined ##OpenGL[00:06:48] *** derhass <derhass!~derhass@ltea-047-066-224-247.pools.arcor-ip.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[00:06:49] *** mat^2 <mat^2!~Mathias@130.226.161.124> has joined ##OpenGL[00:11:12] *** ClaudiusMaximus <ClaudiusMaximus!~claude@unaffiliated/claudiusmaximus> has joined ##OpenGL[00:13:48] *** derhass <derhass!~derhass@ltea-047-065-112-250.pools.arcor-ip.net> has joined ##OpenGL[00:15:51] *** bjz <bjz!~bjz@pa49-199-112-237.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined ##OpenGL[00:19:53] *** DrBenway <DrBenway!~DrBenway@190.18.153.73> has joined ##OpenGL[00:21:51] *** Joefish <Joefish!~Joefish@p5B121948.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[00:22:30] *** gravitation <gravitation!~gravitati@cpe-67-247-58-82.nyc.res.rr.com> has joined ##OpenGL[00:28:06] *** DrGonzo <DrGonzo!~DrBenway@190.18.153.73> has joined ##OpenGL[00:29:38] *** DrBenway <DrBenway!~DrBenway@190.18.153.73> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[00:30:40] *** TechnoCrunch <TechnoCrunch!~Tech@101.100.137.146> has joined ##OpenGL[00:31:12] *** BlackGold <BlackGold!~yaaic@99.231.107.80> has joined ##OpenGL[00:32:56] *** DrGonzo <DrGonzo!~DrBenway@190.18.153.73> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[00:33:38] *** bjz <bjz!~bjz@pa49-199-112-237.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:36:52] *** Birchy <Birchy!~Birchy@178-164-108.52.3p.ntebredband.no> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:36:55] *** BlackGold <BlackGold!~yaaic@99.231.107.80> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:37:56] <sadtaco> Is there any reason why I should use a square texture instead of something that's like 16000x1 texels?[00:38:23] <sadtaco> GLES 2.0 doesn't support 1D textures but you can still give it a rectangle as far as I can tell[00:38:49] *** BlackGold <BlackGold!~yaaic@CPE0c473d35fd91-CM0c473d35fd90.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has joined ##OpenGL[00:39:24] <derhass> it will probably waste a huge deal of memory[00:39:39] <derhass> also, 16000 wide textures aren't that common on ES2[00:40:37] *** Lnavry <Lnavry!yaniel@unaffiliated/yaniel> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[00:41:46] *** BlackGold <BlackGold!~yaaic@CPE0c473d35fd91-CM0c473d35fd90.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:43:51] <sadtaco> Does later OpenGL does something special to not waste a lot of memory with 1D textures, then?[00:44:22] <Stragus> High-end desktop hardware still can't use a 1D texture bigger than 16384[00:44:28] *** zgreg <zgreg!~greg@nest-1.gnumpf.tk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:44:36] <Stragus> You can use buffer textures though, practically as large as you want them[00:44:40] *** zgreg <zgreg!~greg@nest-1.gnumpf.tk> has joined ##OpenGL[00:45:48] *** rixxxo <rixxxo!~razieliyo@unaffiliated/razieliyo> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:46:03] <sadtaco> Ah[00:46:04] <chrisf> Stragus: pascal can do 32k[00:46:19] <sadtaco> It sounds like I'm better off making sure I'm dealing with a number that can be squared, then[00:47:08] <Stragus> sadtaco: Do you have buffer textures in GLES 3.0?[00:47:17] <Stragus> If yes, use a huge 1D buffer texture[00:47:44] <sadtaco> There is uniform buffer objects[00:48:41] <Stragus> UBOs are not appropriate for that[00:48:56] <derhass> sadtaco: your typicall GLES GPU will most likely not natively support 1 pixel high textures, athe driver will pad it out to something bigger[00:50:00] <sadtaco> There is EXT_texture_buffer for 3.1[00:50:15] <sadtaco> And I think it's in 3.2. But otherwise I think no.[00:51:14] <sadtaco> O[00:52:22] *** drith <drith!~drithdx@94.26.1.106> has joined ##OpenGL[00:53:43] <drith> howdy can someone explain to me model view projection? It is fucking unintuitive especially lookAT[00:54:40] <derhass> it is rather intuitive[00:55:10] <sadtaco> Do you just mean that the quaternions themselves are unintuitive or the actual concept is?[00:55:47] <derhass> the model matrix places the object in the world, the view matrix defines the camera position and orientation, and the projection matrix defines the field of view of the projection (like a zoom factor in an ordinary camera)[00:57:06] <drith> i read that a 1000 times...[00:57:56] <drith> let me give an example[00:58:40] *** Defaultti <Defaultti!defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[00:59:47] <sadtaco> I still have that earlier question, if there is some way to supply the attributes for one shader via the compute output of another shader. That problem where I need to collapse some data from 14400 to something 900 can read. I could avoid downloading to the CPU from the GPU that way. I mean, can custom attributes even be modified at all on the gpu?[01:01:02] <Stragus> sadtaco: Vertex attributes? Like transform feedback?[01:01:15] <drith> glm::mat4 Projection = glm::perspective(45.0f, 4.0f / 3.0f, 0.1f, 100.0f);[01:01:28] <drith> if i change to 44 everything fucks up[01:01:38] <sadtaco> No just custom attributes. Like similar to the attributes for vertices, uv, etc. But custom ones can be supplied.[01:01:39] <drith> there is a source to that tut[01:01:51] <drith> can someone explain why is that[01:01:57] <derhass> drith: that's because the tutorial code is outdated[01:02:18] <derhass> drith: recent versions of glm interpret the first argument as radians[01:02:53] *** Lnavry <Lnavry!yaniel@unaffiliated/yaniel> has joined ##OpenGL[01:03:17] <sadtaco> The idea was that I would do the collision detection on those projectiles, which is many thousands, and record to the float texture the index of which one they collided with. Then, I could read over that, an supply that there is a collision to the attribute at that index for the target.[01:03:55] <sadtaco> And that would need to be done right before re-sorting the targets. If it's even possible.[01:05:00] *** gravitation <gravitation!~gravitati@cpe-67-247-58-82.nyc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: gravitation)[01:05:21] <drith> i compiled with the latest nvidia fucking driver and glfw or whatever was that[01:06:13] <drith> there are some 4 vector matrix operations i don't understand and it seems that there is no decent explanation[01:06:18] <drith> at least for me[01:06:32] <derhass> drith: just use glm::perspective(glm::radians(45.0),...)[01:06:53] <derhass> drith: well, so far you haven't asked any specific questions[01:07:04] <drith> yeah but i want to know why 44 changes stuff in drastic manner...[01:07:24] <derhass> because in radians, 45 and 44 are a huge difference[01:07:56] <drith> can you point me to where i can read why is that[01:08:32] <derhass> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radian[01:08:53] *** Defaultti <Defaultti!defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi> has joined ##OpenGL[01:09:14] <drith> i read that it is just a value and small change why the big difference[01:11:05] <derhass> you changed the field ov view from 58 degree to 1.0152 degree[01:11:08] <derhass> *of[01:11:36] <drith> can you explain how did you get to the new value ?[01:12:02] <derhass> converting rad to degree[01:12:12] <derhass> pi radians are 180 degrees[01:12:28] <sadtaco> Ultimately I need to somehow take the collisions that are detected in the 14400 shader program and transfer that as attributes to the 900 shader program. And was wondering if I could somehow form those attributes on the GPU.[01:13:00] *** gravitation <gravitation!~gravitati@cpe-67-247-58-82.nyc.res.rr.com> has joined ##OpenGL[01:13:03] <chrisf> uh, derhass... recent glm prefers degrees unless you define GLM_FORCE_RADIANS...[01:13:23] <chrisf> or has he changed it again?[01:13:39] <derhass> no, it switched to GLM_FORCE_RADIANS behavior as the default[01:15:05] <derhass> chrisf: unless I'm not totally confused, I guess[01:16:02] <chrisf> derhass: bloody trainwreck of a change, either way[01:16:54] *** Lunatrius` <Lunatrius`!~Lunatrius@77.38.21.26> has joined ##OpenGL[01:17:24] <derhass> chrisf: http://glm.g-truc.net/0.9.7/api/a00174.html#gac3613dcb6c6916465ad5b7ad5a786175 says radians[01:17:43] <derhass> chrisf: https://glm.g-truc.net/0.9.4/api/a00151.html#ga283629a5ac7fb9037795435daf22560f said degress unless GLM_FORCE_RADIANS is set[01:18:09] <chrisf> derhass: alright[01:18:11] *** Lunatrius <Lunatrius!~Lunatrius@77.38.21.26> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:18:11] *** Lunatrius` is now known as Lunatrius[01:18:44] <derhass> chrisf: but I wasn't sure myself any more... :)[01:21:58] <drith> all of are arguing and i don't understand it[01:21:59] *** BlotCoo <BlotCoo!~BlotCoo@75-162-243-209.slkc.qwest.net> has joined ##OpenGL[01:22:00] <drith> common[01:23:00] <derhass> drith: one full circle is 360 degrees, or just 2 pi in radians[01:23:07] <drith> can someone tell me why 44 gets stuff different as fuck http://pastebin.com/S2vUAvSr[01:23:39] <derhass> drith: as I told you, the code is actually intented to use glm::radians(45.0)[01:23:42] *** Malediction <Malediction!~Buggery@foritus.plus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[01:23:51] <derhass> and then, changing from 45 to 44 will look as you expect[01:23:56] *** konom <konom!~tamatias@141.15.138.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:23:59] <derhass> (well, dunno what you expect, actually)[01:24:37] <drith> ok i don't undestand the cammera[01:24:47] <drith> why 0,0,0 don't show anything?[01:25:24] <derhass> becaue a camera placed at (0,0,0) and lookint at (0,0,0) doesn't make sense[01:25:32] <drith> or to be clear i dont understand eye to cammera[01:25:41] <derhass> it does not define a camera orientation at all[01:26:17] <drith> ok 1,1,1 dont show anything too[01:26:19] <drith> why is that[01:27:02] <derhass> because you are looking into (roughly) opposite direction now[01:27:21] <drith> i don;t get that[01:27:27] <drith> can you elaborate[01:27:46] <derhass> you set up a camera position, and a point it is looking at[01:28:23] <derhass> if you change the position, but leave the lookat point the same, the direction it is facing will change[01:28:56] <derhass> if your camera is at x=-1, looiking at x=0, it will see an object at x=4[01:29:26] <derhass> if your camera is at x=1, looking at x=0, it will not see the obehect at x=4, becuase now it is looking into completely opposite direction[01:29:26] <drith> how did you derive that?[01:29:39] <derhass> draw it on paper[01:29:42] <derhass> really[01:29:51] <derhass> it is easy to see on paper[01:30:31] <derhass> and grab a good book on geometry, trigonometry, and linear algebra[01:31:26] *** konom <konom!~tamatias@141.15.138.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined ##OpenGL[01:31:44] *** nine_milli <nine_milli!~nine_mill@ool-6894ef96.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: nine_milli)[01:31:57] *** Joefish <Joefish!~Joefish@p5B121948.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined ##OpenGL[01:38:42] *** BlotCoo <BlotCoo!~BlotCoo@75-162-243-209.slkc.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:39:23] *** BlackGold <BlackGold!~yaaic@CPE0c473d35fd91-CM0c473d35fd90.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has joined ##OpenGL[01:44:12] *** CapsAdmin <CapsAdmin!~CapsAdmin@217.70.249.229> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:50:07] *** Slion <Slion!~sl@p57A828F8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined ##OpenGL[01:51:43] *** doomlord 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I noticed the docs (very vaguely) talked about indices relating to bound arrays. So is there some glBindBuffer call I could make to use a buffer to pull indices from?[02:15:47] <FlyingJester_> Otherwise, can I just use a regular memory address for the indices array?[02:16:58] *** Slion <Slion!~sl@p57A828F8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[02:22:42] *** Malediction <Malediction!~Buggery@foritus.plus.com> has joined ##OpenGL[02:23:49] *** ratchetfreak <ratchetfreak!~ratchetfr@ptr-2hj4tbosgukodwskjp6x4qn1s.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:29:42] *** notadeveloper <notadeveloper!~letsmakej@2602:306:bd2a:a160:d5d2:b98a:b18c:b0d9> has joined ##OpenGL[02:29:55] *** nine_milli <nine_milli!~nine_mill@ool-6894ef96.dyn.optonline.net> has joined ##OpenGL[02:32:31] *** monsterjamp <monsterjamp!uid156866@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fuboqqbtnzeakqyv> has joined ##OpenGL[02:32:44] <slime> GL_ELEMENT_ARRAY_BUFFER[02:33:10] <slime> you can only use client-side (regular) memory if you're using legacy or compatibility profile desktop GL, or GLES[02:34:36] <FlyingJester_> OK, that's kind of what I figured.[02:39:46] *** ravior <ravior!~ravior@5-13-192-211.residential.rdsnet.ro> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:43:44] *** unreal <unreal!~unreal@unaffiliated/unreal> has joined ##OpenGL[02:44:18] *** tristanseifert <tristanseifert!~tristanse@128.194.3.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[02:52:32] *** TheChubu <TheChubu!~TheChubu@190.221.200.203> has joined ##OpenGL[03:03:04] *** BlackGold <BlackGold!~yaaic@CPE0c473d35fd91-CM0c473d35fd90.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has joined ##OpenGL[03:03:56] *** tristanseifert <tristanseifert!~tristanse@nat-165-91-12-252.tamulink.tamu.edu> has joined ##OpenGL[03:06:05] *** BlackGold <BlackGold!~yaaic@CPE0c473d35fd91-CM0c473d35fd90.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:06:24] *** Joefish <Joefish!~Joefish@p5B121948.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[03:08:15] *** Joefish <Joefish!~Joefish@p5B120969.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined ##OpenGL[03:12:12] *** kenzierocks <kenzierocks!~kenzieroc@yes.quite.indeed.old.chap.it.is.kenzierocks.me> has quit IRC (Quit: qq)[03:13:00] *** kenzierocks <kenzierocks!~kenzieroc@yes.quite.indeed.old.chap.it.is.kenzierocks.me> has joined ##OpenGL[03:13:12] *** shakesoda <shakesoda!~shake@celestiaradio/shark/soda> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[03:13:29] *** w4ffles <w4ffles!w4ffles@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe69:8613> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[03:18:12] *** nepgear <nepgear!~shake@excessive.moe> has joined ##OpenGL[03:18:16] *** nepgear is now known as Guest84209[03:20:05] *** Guest84209 is now known as shakesoda[03:20:16] *** shakesoda <shakesoda!~shake@excessive.moe> has quit IRC (Changing host)[03:20:16] *** shakesoda <shakesoda!~shake@celestiaradio/shark/soda> has joined ##OpenGL[03:26:11] *** gravitation <gravitation!~gravitati@cpe-67-247-58-82.nyc.res.rr.com> has joined ##OpenGL[03:29:04] *** gravitation <gravitation!~gravitati@cpe-67-247-58-82.nyc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:40:25] *** w4ffles <w4ffles!w4ffles@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe69:8613> has joined ##OpenGL[03:41:07] *** lucaswang <lucaswang!~lucaswang@117.135.159.4> has joined ##OpenGL[03:44:27] <sadtaco> Oh wow. A few thousand points stacked on top of each other makes a lottttt of churn on my gpu. I guess I assumed the GPU did some sort of occuling[03:45:31] <TheChubu> it might do early Z if sorted front to back[03:45:50] <TheChubu> but tiled renderers in mobile gpus work differently iirc[03:46:39] <sadtaco> This is on my desktop.[03:47:54] <sadtaco> I just have these 14400 vertices. I made them a 150. gl_PointSize and they're all at 0,0,0 and wew really made my GPU work. I guess it was running 324 million fragment programs in that case[04:02:06] *** wolfcub <wolfcub!~henrique_@177.131.171.33> has joined ##OpenGL[04:12:24] *** BlackGold <BlackGold!~yaaic@CPE0c473d35fd91-CM0c473d35fd90.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has joined ##OpenGL[04:12:37] *** hexagoxel <hexagoxel!~hexagoxel@p200300798F093600021E33FFFE2231E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[04:14:47] *** arescorpio <arescorpio!~arescorpi@136-167-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has joined ##OpenGL[04:17:35] *** KAHR-Alpha <KAHR-Alpha!~Alpha@AReims-652-1-175-76.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[04:19:05] *** hexagoxel <hexagoxel!~hexagoxel@p5B29AA6E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined ##OpenGL[04:24:47] *** fungebob <fungebob!6c07cd02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.7.205.2> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[04:31:52] *** PlasmaStar <PlasmaStar!Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar> has joined ##OpenGL[04:41:18] *** PlasmaStar <PlasmaStar!Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar> 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will be just this happening on the screen[11:40:30] *** stelarcf_ <stelarcf_!~stelarcf@92.81.115.213> has joined ##OpenGL[11:40:34] <noizex> so it probably doesn't matter[11:40:45] <noizex> uploading 4k vertices every time something changes may hitch though, or no?[11:41:10] <noizex> or maybe mapped buffer and just change specific vertices?[11:41:19] <noizex> triple buffering? or just sync'd?[11:49:30] *** gnidmoo <gnidmoo!~gnidmoo@ADijon-654-1-171-204.w92-130.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined ##OpenGL[11:51:57] *** ravior <ravior!~ravior@89.121.200.106> has joined ##OpenGL[11:52:48] *** stelarcf_ <stelarcf_!~stelarcf@92.81.115.213> has quit IRC (Quit: stelarcf_)[11:53:09] *** stelarcf_ <stelarcf_!~stelarcf@92.81.115.213> has joined ##OpenGL[11:53:27] *** stelarcf_ <stelarcf_!~stelarcf@92.81.115.213> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:53:34] *** flavi0 <flavi0!~anon@unaffiliated/flavi0> has joined ##OpenGL[11:53:49] *** stelarcf_ <stelarcf_!~stelarcf@92.81.115.213> has joined 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Is it an acceptable compromise to target GLSL ES 1.0 for all targets? Or do some desktop drivers not provide GLSL ES 1.0 compilers?[17:49:03] *** Adrinael_ is now known as Adrinael[17:49:04] *** Lunatrius` is now known as Lunatrius[17:49:05] *** snowcat is now known as computertechie[17:49:18] *** spjoe <spjoe!~spjoe@vserver1877.vserver-on.de> has joined ##OpenGL[17:49:29] *** idontcarebear <idontcarebear!~idontcare@50.35.14.24> has joined ##OpenGL[17:49:41] *** adrian_broher <adrian_broher!~adrian@adrian-broher.net> has joined ##OpenGL[17:49:41] *** adrian_broher <adrian_broher!~adrian@adrian-broher.net> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[17:49:58] *** ssspiff is now known as sspiff[17:50:09] *** glYoda <glYoda!~MTLYoda@c-50-137-137-82.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:50:09] *** glYoda_ is now known as glYoda[17:50:10] <derhass> sspiff: no[17:50:13] *** mtj_ <mtj_!~mtj@gw1.kohaaloha.com> has joined ##OpenGL[17:50:18] <derhass> sspiff: ES 1.0 would be a horrible target[17:50:24] *** sspiff <sspiff!~quassel@2001:41d0:a:2134::1> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:50:24] *** sspiff <sspiff!~quassel@unaffiliated/yukito> has joined ##OpenGL[17:50:33] <derhass> especially since it is totally incompatible to WebGL[17:50:42] <derhass> WebGL1.0 is based on GLES 2.0[17:50:55] <sspiff> derhass: GLSL ES 1.0 is the shader language for GLES 2.0[17:51:16] <derhass> yes, you are right[17:51:23] *** gnidmoo <gnidmoo!~gnidmoo@ADijon-654-1-171-204.w92-130.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[17:51:26] <derhass> I didn't parse your question correctly[17:51:34] *** huhlig <huhlig!sid17687@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nytiodzvusqbwokk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:51:34] *** zero7 <zero7!sid10708@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vhcvouqkcjkdzmtw> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:51:34] *** zrl <zrl!sid22717@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cqvdrfxuwabjknic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:51:34] *** MLM <MLM!sid38638@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wxtbfswoblbepqaj> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:51:34] <derhass> somehow read it as GLES 2.0[17:51:39] <derhass> *1.0[17:51:40] <derhass> whatever[17:51:49] <derhass> so yes[17:51:52] *** notadeveloper_ <notadeveloper_!~notadevel@107-210-170-22.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:52:00] <slime> not every desktop driver has glsl es 1.0 support, but glsles1 is a subset of glsl 1.20, basically[17:52:01] <slime> so it's fine[17:52:08] *** lpapp <lpapp!~lpapp@kde/lpapp> has joined ##OpenGL[17:52:10] <derhass> GLES 2.0 / GLSL ES 1.00 is probably a reasonable target[17:52:15] *** giucam_ is now known as giucam[17:52:16] *** lpapp <lpapp!~lpapp@kde/lpapp> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:52:17] <slime> since you can just set the version to 120 on desktop[17:52:43] *** Matthijs <Matthijs!~quassel@unaffiliated/matthijs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[17:52:51] <sspiff> slime: so I would just need to switch the #version line and be on my merry way?[17:52:57] *** FifthGB_ is now 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The program used to work with glew, so I am not sure what I need to fix.[19:59:16] *** upgrdman <upgrdman!~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman> has joined ##OpenGL[20:00:08] <dav1d> melkor: you are calling gladLoadGL, right? Also you shoul dshow code[20:00:20] <derhass> looks like some issue with the context or glad initialization[20:00:24] <dav1d> If you need an example: https://github.com/Dav1dde/glad/blob/master/example/c%2B%2B/hellowindow2.cpp[20:01:51] *** Raz0r <Raz0r!~none@173-19-70-35.client.mchsi.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:03:21] <melkor> dav1d: I did not call gladLoadGL, it is burried in that example a bit.[20:06:15] *** flavi0 <flavi0!~anon@unaffiliated/flavi0> has joined ##OpenGL[20:07:11] <melkor> Awesome, thank you. I didn't know if the problem was the config that I d/loaded for glad. 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If I don't write anything at all, it works as intended, but is twice as slow as calling discard explicitly. Is it safe not to write to gl_FragColor? I read that the color will be undefined, but what about the stencil buffer?[21:27:25] <Waynes> oh, actually it does not work as intended and I just forgot to rebuild, never mind[21:27:37] *** karab44 <karab44!~karab44@unaffiliated/karab44> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye bye! o/)[21:27:49] *** Eliasvan <Eliasvan!8d877f9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.135.127.154> has joined ##OpenGL[21:28:04] *** ravior <ravior!~ravior@2a02:2f0e:c336:4800:224:d7ff:feb5:311c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[21:29:50] *** ravior <ravior!~ravior@2a02:2f0e:c336:4800:224:d7ff:feb5:311c> has joined ##OpenGL[21:38:17] *** xCrypto <xCrypto!~xCrypto@drmons0544w-142177154202.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)[21:38:43] *** Razdaman <Razdaman!~rasmus@3224057-cl69.boa.fiberby.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[21:40:10] *** xCrypto <xCrypto!~xCrypto@drmons0544w-142177154202.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net> has joined ##OpenGL[21:40:48] *** ravior <ravior!~ravior@2a02:2f0e:c336:4800:224:d7ff:feb5:311c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[21:41:19] *** khlorghaal <khlorghaal!~quassel@76-202-65-254.lightspeed.brbnca.sbcglobal.net> has joined ##OpenGL[21:42:22] *** ratchetfreak <ratchetfreak!~ratchetfr@ptr-2hj4tbosgukodwskjp6x4qn1s.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:42:46] *** ratchetfreak <ratchetfreak!~ratchetfr@ptr-2hj4tbosgukodwskjp6x4qn1s.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined ##OpenGL[21:45:21] *** GarrettShields <GarrettShields!~GarrettSh@CPE3497f6605400-CMbc14013107e0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has joined ##OpenGL[21:45:39] *** crankslider <crankslider!~slidercra@unaffiliated/slidercrank> has joined ##OpenGL[21:51:40] *** tristanseifert <tristanseifert!~tristanse@128.194.3.4> has joined ##OpenGL[21:55:42] <Eliasvan> Hi everyone, I've been learning OpenGL Timer Queries and came across section "Regarding Performance" of Lighthouse 3D (http://www.lighthouse3d.com/tutorials/opengl-timer-query/#highlighter_847442) where they propose to use double buffering for the query objects in order to fetch the query data in a way that minimally affects performance,[21:55:44] <Eliasvan> i.e., "glGetQueryObjectui64v(queryID[queryFrontBuffer][0], GL_QUERY_RESULT, &timer2)" should return the result right away without blocking (because the result is already available at that point).[21:55:51] <Eliasvan> But I'm not completely convinced using these two query buffers is enough to guarantee the result is already available at that point (can anyone here convince me?)...[21:56:54] *** mat^2 <mat^2!~Mathias@130.226.161.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[21:58:34] <Eliasvan> The reason I say this is because of this post (https://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/showthread.php/151790-OpenGL-Swap-Buffers-Blocking?p=1087029&viewfull=1#post1087029), I'll quote it:[21:58:36] <Eliasvan> "Regarding whether (frame) SwapBuffers blocks or not, it's implementation dependent (I know of implementations that do not block). Nevertheless, drivers try not to queue too many frames, so if all your frames always take less than 1/60 secs, it will eventually block (after n frames have been queued up or when the DMA command buffer fills)."[21:58:42] <Eliasvan> So what I understand from that post is that (unless you call glFinish() somewhere) it might be possible after 4 swap frame buffer calls the GPU is still busy processing the command buffers of frame 1 (and frame 2, 3 and 4 are still pending to be processed); where this number '4' is limited by the DMA command buffer size.[21:58:48] <Eliasvan> If that would be true, even 4 query buffers would not be enough, since the "glGetQueryObjectiv(query1, GL_QUERY_RESULT_AVAILABLE, &done)" call on query buffer of frame 1 will cause "done" to be 0, since frame 1 is still being processed by the GPU.[21:58:55] <Eliasvan> Am I missing something?[21:59:28] *** ravior <ravior!~ravior@2a02:2f0e:c336:4800:224:d7ff:feb5:311c> has joined ##OpenGL[22:00:19] *** NotTheFBI <NotTheFBI!~TheHackOp@dsl-124-150-17-198.vic.westnet.com.au> has joined ##OpenGL[22:00:30] *** neurre <neurre!~tsuorant@46.163.250.82> has joined ##OpenGL[22:00:50] *** PaulCape_ <PaulCape_!~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82> has joined ##OpenGL[22:01:32] <Stragus> Eliasvan: Typically GL calls will begin blocking when the GPU has "enough work queued"[22:01:39] <Stragus> Which generally means two frames[22:02:23] <Eliasvan> Yes, but suppose you have a very lightweight scene, where "enough work queued" can span e.g. 8 frames, is that possible?[22:02:27] *** da2ce7_ <da2ce7_!~da2ce7@opentransactions/dev/da2ce7> has joined ##OpenGL[22:02:47] <Stragus> No, the drivers will begin blocking GL calls[22:03:02] <Stragus> Typically SwapBuffers() will block but it could be something else[22:03:10] *** derhass_ <derhass_!~derhass@ltea-047-065-032-058.pools.arcor-ip.net> has joined ##OpenGL[22:03:32] *** drakon_ <drakon_!~drakon@cpc6-gran4-2-0-cust135.12-1.cable.virginm.net> has joined ##OpenGL[22:03:32] *** nine_milli <nine_milli!~nine_mill@ool-6894ef96.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: nine_milli)[22:03:49] <Eliasvan> Hmm, so do I misunderstand the (https://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/showthread.php/151790-OpenGL-Swap-Buffers-Blocking?p=1087029&viewfull=1#post1087029) post where they claim the FIFO can contain up to 100 frames?[22:03:56] *** tomaka_ <tomaka_!~tomaka@xvm-244-186.dc2.ghst.net> has joined ##OpenGL[22:03:59] *** cden <cden!~cden@unaffiliated/cden> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:04:00] *** ravior <ravior!~ravior@2a02:2f0e:c336:4800:224:d7ff:feb5:311c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[22:04:13] <Stragus> Whoever said that, it's wrong[22:04:42] <Eliasvan> So I can safely trust the Lighthouse 3D source?[22:05:18] <Stragus> I'm not familiar with these tutorials, perhaps someone else can vouch for them...[22:06:21] <Eliasvan> But "dorbie", a OpenGL Guru at opengl.org, says (https://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/showthread.php/151790-OpenGL-Swap-Buffers-Blocking?p=1087039&viewfull=1#post1087039)[22:06:36] <Eliasvan> "Infact if you don't block at all and have big FIFOs and don't do anything that might block like a readback you could potentially store hundreds of frames in the FIFO (and I've seen this happen) but those frames don't need buffers. (this is out of spec)."[22:07:35] <Stragus> That is incorrect[22:07:52] <Eliasvan> Stragus: oef, thanks :)[22:08:03] <Eliasvan> That makes my life easier[22:08:09] <Stragus> Not sure where he saw that, but the post is from 2004, perhaps it was some buggy drivers[22:08:19] <Eliasvan> I hope so[22:09:07] <Eliasvan> Stragus: And what if triple frame buffering is used, does the double query buffering still work (without performance loss)?[22:09:40] <Eliasvan> Stragus: or do I also need to use triple query buffering in such case?[22:10:13] *** PaulCapestany <PaulCapestany!~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[22:10:13] *** da2ce7 <da2ce7!~da2ce7@opentransactions/dev/da2ce7> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[22:10:13] *** mtj_ <mtj_!~mtj@gw1.kohaaloha.com> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[22:10:13] *** idontcarebear <idontcarebear!~idontcare@50.35.14.24> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[22:10:13] *** FifthGB <FifthGB!uid36673@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gkhbhoelblulxhnc> has quit IRC 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<gravitation!~gravitati@cpe-67-247-58-82.nyc.res.rr.com> has joined ##OpenGL[22:46:45] <kmnt> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF-uMe3GKIE[22:46:53] <kmnt> looks cool[22:47:47] <bookmark> thanks[22:48:45] <kmnt> neat volumetric effect with the dragon too[22:49:58] *** elect <elect!~elect@ip5f5afe68.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:54:23] <bookmark> not opengl'[22:54:44] <bookmark> did that one in maya 3d[22:55:17] *** zagabar <zagabar!~zagabar@unaffiliated/zagabar> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[22:56:04] *** razieliyo <razieliyo!~razieliyo@unaffiliated/razieliyo> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:00:03] *** stefkos <stefkos!~stefkos@pc11-226.chomiczowka.waw.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:03:25] *** drakon_ is now known as Drakon[23:07:11] *** MrFlibble <MrFlibble!MrFlibble@90.220.166.75> has joined ##OpenGL[23:16:30] <derhass_> hmm. why is my lighting broken in the render slaves, but not in the master?[23:16:38] <derhass_> 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