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[00:09:37] <angasule> there seems to be public domain data about HRTF
[00:10:03] <KittyCat> oh?
[00:21:59] <angasule> just data, not good ol' code, haven't read enough to turn it into code
[00:23:39] <angasule> hmm
[00:24:03] <angasule> OpenAL doesn't seem very friendly to processors that don't have native float :/
[00:29:35] <KittyCat> not really..
[00:30:29] <KittyCat> the API provides floating point volume and position data, and is expected to accept the whole range in several places
[00:31:24] <KittyCat> and trying to make some of the calculations be integer, not all of it would b e, and would just cause lots of int->float->int conversions
[00:31:37] <KittyCat> in the mixer
[00:32:28] <angasule> yup
[00:32:35] <angasule> an OpenAL ES or similar would be nice
[00:33:00] <KittyCat> and it would end up doing more work to properly handle fixed point without overflowing data
[00:34:30] <angasule> a modified OpenAL that works with integers only would be very useful
[00:35:43] <KittyCat> it would best be an alternate lib, though. making openal soft integer-only would end up doing more harm than good, speed-wise
[00:37:00] <angasule> yes, I spoke of OpenAL as a spec, too much rewriting needed for openal-soft to work for this
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[01:30:59] <jvalenzu> not native float?
[01:31:08] <jvalenzu> most pipelines are moving to float only anyway
[01:31:18] <jvalenzu> wouldn't hurt to have an integer only version
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[01:38:35] <angasule> jvalenzu: ARM9 doesn't have float, and it's widely used (just to name one)
[01:40:05] <jvalenzu> yeah, I'm not saying they aren't out there
[01:40:29] <jvalenzu> embedded system middleware is something if a niche market is all I'm saying
[01:40:43] <jvalenzu> for most use pipelines seem to be moving to float throughout
[01:41:17] <jvalenzu> I often think that someone making some decent sound middleware could clean up
[01:41:23] <angasule> well, embedded systems need integer
[01:41:32] <jvalenzu> the professional alternatives out there are all pretty flawed
[01:41:39] <jvalenzu> yeah, I hear ya
[01:42:09] <jvalenzu> I'm not sure of the crossover between ARM9 processors and the need for positional audio, though
[01:43:05] <angasule> I have one killer app :D
[01:43:15] <jvalenzu> heh
[01:46:14] <angasule> fmod seems to be rather nice, too bad about the license
[01:49:08] <jvalenzu> it's kind of a POS
[01:49:10] <jvalenzu> (imho)
[01:49:21] <jvalenzu> very PC oriented
[01:49:55] <angasule> oh, I just read the features, not the API
[01:51:41] <jvalenzu> I think sound designers tend to like the tools
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[01:52:02] <jvalenzu> which generate playback blend trees which are too expensive to play at runtime
[01:52:15] <jvalenzu> generally a sound programmer has three main tasks
[01:52:24] <jvalenzu> integrate middleware: 85%
[01:52:26] <jvalenzu> er
[01:52:33] <jvalenzu> babysit sound designers: 85%
[01:52:38] <jvalenzu> integrate middleware: 10%
[01:53:00] <jvalenzu> work on features that will never be allowed to be in a shipping game: 5%
[01:57:34] <angasule> heh
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