June 23, 2008  
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[00:05:19] <kb1ooo> KittyCat, here's a mod of the lesson1 example that illustrates the clicks.  I've put in there a recording (clicks.mp3) of what it sounds like on my machine.
[00:05:33] <kb1ooo> http://stuff.vaillant.fastmail.fm/lesson1Mod.tar.gz
[00:06:05] <kb1ooo> this example is without doing any fading.
[00:07:33] <kb1ooo> I'm pretty sure that I'm experiencing the same as the folks in  the following thread: http://www.idevgames.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13650
[00:09:24] <KittyCat> hmm. I think the best solution would be to fix it in openal soft's mixer.
[00:12:28] <kb1ooo> if you get a chance, can you try that example with openal soft and let me know if it sounds similar to clicks.mp3
[00:15:27] <KittyCat> yeah, it does
[00:17:25] <kb1ooo> ok, thanks
[00:30:57] <angasule> great, I finally fixed the blog date stuff but now I can't post for 4.5 hours or the post order will be wrong
[00:31:24] <KittyCat> heh
[00:31:46] <angasule> anyway, the thingie now saves a full config
[00:32:24] <angasule> well, it spits it out to stdout, but that's just because it's easier to debug that way
[00:32:54] <angasule> I have to fix a bunch of quirks, I'm in the final 10% :)
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[01:13:13] <kb1ooo> KittyCat, I just noticed that if you set the gain to anything above 0, no matter how small, you get a fade and no clicks.  I.e.  in the example i sent, alternate b/w gain of 1.0 and .000001 instead of 1.0 and 0.0.  However, the fade is very slow.
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[01:14:44] <KittyCat> what OS?
[01:15:10] <kb1ooo> OSX
[01:15:57] <KittyCat> it may be something specific to coreaudio. might want to let apple know about the clicking (can send a message to the openal mailing list)
[01:16:35] <kb1ooo> i though you said that the clicking happens w/ openal soft as well?
[01:18:02] <KittyCat> it does
[01:18:34] <KittyCat> but it sounds as if the osx version of openal has provisions to stop the clicking, but it fails when setting a gain of 0
[01:23:57] <kb1ooo> problem is that it's not good enough.
[01:24:10] <kb1ooo> http://stuff.vaillant.fastmail.fm/main.cpp
[01:24:19] <kb1ooo> can you try that with the example i sent.
[01:24:59] <kb1ooo> i guess i'm sol with openal on this app
[01:29:53] <kb1ooo> bbl, going to dinner
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[03:08:15] <kb1ooo> back
[03:08:30] <angasule> rehi
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