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[09:15:14] <shamanas> hello
[09:15:26] <duckinator> hi, you've caught me lurking after 3am again D;
[09:15:53] <shamanas> haha
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[09:17:01] <shamanas> https://github.com/shamanas/pride-lang/blob/master/design.md just gotta write flow control and FFI parts
[09:34:56] <duckinator> shamanas: looks good! :D </late>
[09:34:58] <duckinator> anywho, 'night o/
[10:28:59] <pippijn> shamanas: so -10 is a literal?
[10:29:23] <shamanas> hm
[10:29:38] <shamanas> pippijn: talking about pride?
[10:29:43] <pippijn> yes
[10:30:17] <shamanas> hm it could be an operator you are correct
[10:30:25] <shamanas> unaryop - on 10
[10:30:31] <pippijn> ah
[10:30:47] <pippijn> yes, that's usually how it's done
[10:30:50] <shamanas> i guess this is a more correct way
[10:31:00] <shamanas> btw do yu like it so far? :)
[10:31:03] <shamanas> you*
[10:31:07] <pippijn> is . an operator?
[10:31:24] <shamanas> i was thinking about this
[10:31:31] <shamanas> i think i will implement it as one yes
[10:32:07] <shamanas> this is my first language design you see :)
[10:32:11] <shamanas> still learning what is better
[10:32:22] <pippijn> did you think about how you will solve the lexical ambiguity of the .. range operator and floats?
[10:32:30] <shamanas> and hopefully i can implement this, although it is quite complicated
[10:32:35] <pippijn> or is .. not an operator?
[10:32:50] <shamanas> no .. is not an operator
[10:32:51] <pippijn> it's in literals, so it might be a range literal, in which case there is no ambiguity
[10:33:02] <shamanas> it isa part of the literal
[10:33:04] <shamanas> tes
[10:33:06] <pippijn> okay
[10:33:06] <shamanas> yes
[10:33:12] <pippijn> so 1 .. 10 doesn't work?
[10:33:14] <shamanas> damn my keyboard xO
[10:33:28] <pippijn> or are the spaces also part of the literal?
[10:33:32] <shamanas> well i could make it accpet whitespace
[10:33:58] <shamanas> these are things i havent really thought about yet
[10:34:05] <shamanas> first
[10:34:19] <shamanas> i want to write the general ideas and concepts
[10:34:40] <shamanas> and then i will think about "details"
[10:34:55] <shamanas> finally, I will think about how i will implement it xD
[10:35:34] <pippijn> okay
[10:35:38] <shamanas> function currying in C will be hard
[10:35:41] <shamanas> D:
[10:35:51] <pippijn> not really
[10:36:16] <pippijn> is : an operator?
[10:36:16] <shamanas>  o about implementing it?how would yo
[10:36:22] <shamanas> aarg
[10:36:27] <shamanas> my keyboard sucks
[10:36:32] <shamanas> no
[10:36:34] <shamanas> not :
[10:36:44] <shamanas> it would make parsing ternaries a nightmare
[10:36:48] <pippijn> :: is for typing an object
[10:37:05] <shamanas> y
[10:37:06] <pippijn> ah, so ?: is an operator
[10:37:14] <shamanas> sure,y :P
[10:37:32] <shamanas> i may introduce type aliases
[10:37:53] <shamanas> i.e. type Foo = { a :: Int, b :: String } <- this is an object's type btw
[10:37:59] <shamanas> and then you can use it like
[10:38:10] <shamanas> f~extern :: Foo -> Foo
[10:38:29] <shamanas> (Foo -> Foo) is a function type btw :P
[10:38:48] <shamanas> function types are written the Haskell way :D
[10:41:21] <shamanas> what would you prefer, everything passed by reference or pride types -> pass by reference, c types -> pass by value/rference (depends on wich we are binding)
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[16:30:49] <CIA-126> rock: Amos Wenger master * r7ea2ea7 / (4 files in 2 dirs): Add mkfifo, add FileReader constructor from file descriptor - http://git.io/Lebkng
[16:30:50] <CIA-126> rock: Amos Wenger master * r2d5a6a7 / (.gitignore source/rock/middle/FunctionDecl.ooc): Merge branch 'master' of github.com:nddrylliog/rock - http://git.io/gVMNTg
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[16:51:43] <CIA-126> rock: Amos Wenger master * r744aac0 / sdk/io/FileReader.ooc : FileReader read(Buffer) - http://git.io/fFXU5g
[16:59:28] <duckinator> amos: https://github.com/nddrylliog/rock/commit/744aac0dd8159af44e4a51606026fd50da5c51df someone forgot to use 4-space indentation ;P
[17:03:20] *** amos is now known as nddrylliog
[17:03:21] <nddrylliog> dammit.
[17:03:39] <nddrylliog> what the hell..
[17:04:37] <nddrylliog> duckinator: I have softtabstop=4 and shiftwidth=4 - what more?
[17:05:05] <nddrylliog> duckinator: what does 'expandtab' do again?
[17:05:15] <duckinator> hm?
[17:05:21] <duckinator> what editor are you using? :P
[17:05:43] <nddrylliog> duckinator: ...
[17:05:50] * nddrylliog chokes duckinator with a vim handbook
[17:06:08] * duckinator explodes violently all over the place
[17:06:16] <CIA-126> rock: Amos Wenger master * r7a90e24 / sdk/io/FileReader.ooc : Whatever, tabs, spaces. - http://git.io/-cg3mA
[17:27:13] <duckinator> nddrylliog: btw, i tried adding a newer libatomic_ops again to no avail. so if someone else can do that, great, if not i'll take another whack at it in 2hr or so since i have to watch my niece for a bit
[17:27:15] <duckinator> bai o/
[17:27:41] <duckinator> (by "to no avail" i mean "i have no clue what i'm doing so i basically murdered it to the point that it didn't even try to compile and just sorta flopped around")
[17:31:03] <nddrylliog> ..how can you fail at doing that
[17:31:07] <nddrylliog> download, unzip, test, commit ?
[17:35:49] <locks> hi nddrylliog :)
[17:37:11] <nddrylliog> locks: hi!
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[18:39:32] <nddrylliog> working with oocmzq is really, really nice.
[18:39:40] <nddrylliog> you guys should try it.
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[20:41:08] <shamanas> hello :D
[20:41:27] <shamanas> duckinator: i found the solution for function currying
[20:41:38] <shamanas> f = (a,b) -> a+b
[20:41:42] <shamanas> add1 = f(1)
[20:41:50] <shamanas> Will automatically become
[20:42:01] <shamanas> add1 = (b) -> f(1,b)
[21:05:57] <CIA-126> rock: Amos Wenger master * r940b47b / (sdk/io/FileWriter.ooc sdk/lang/IO.ooc): Indentation mostly. - http://git.io/CiOnmA
[21:06:38] <fredreichbier_> hi!
[21:06:46] <fredreichbier_> shamanas, i don't really like it implicitly :/
[21:07:15] <shamanas> hm why so?
[21:07:27] <fredreichbier_> because explicit is better than implicit :D
[21:07:30] <shamanas> it is a pleasant way to make the code more light
[21:07:43] <shamanas> well both are even better :D
[21:08:02] <fredreichbier_> hmmm
[21:08:16] <shamanas> Also, i think supporting function currying is kewl ;)
[21:08:26] <shamanas> (jk)
[21:08:28] <fredreichbier_> hehe
[21:08:35] <fredreichbier_> well it's certainly cool
[21:08:43] <fredreichbier_> but i'd rahter like it being explicit
[21:08:46] <fredreichbier_> like .. curry(f, value)
[21:09:15] <shamanas> hmm
[21:10:03] <shamanas> naaah :P
[21:10:08] <shamanas> r mayb
[21:10:15] <shamanas> or maybe*...
[21:10:51] <fredreichbier_> probably even possible on source level
[21:11:12] <shamanas> i dont know, i prefer the implicit way :-/ imo its cool to write [1,2,3] map(add(2))
[21:11:58] <shamanas> even [1,2,3] map(2 +)
[21:12:12] <shamanas> if operators are implemented as functions in the end
[21:15:09] <shamanas> wich they will probably be
[21:16:06] <shamanas> anyway apart from that you like the language? (if you have read my design)
[21:17:16] <fredreichbier_> uh which design? :D
[21:19:36] <shamanas> http://github.com/shamanas/pride-lang
[21:20:28] <fredreichbier_> aaah, it's a proposal for your own language! i thought it was for ooc then :D
[21:20:30] <fredreichbier_> good then! :D
[21:21:03] <shamanas> hum i wasnt aware the lambda syntax in ooc was args -> body :P
[21:21:28] <shamanas> but i was thinking about trying t implement a curry function in ooc too :)
[21:21:42] <fredreichbier_> yay, pattern matching
[21:22:13] <shamanas> LD
[21:22:15] <shamanas> :D*
[21:22:18] <locks> too many programming languaggeess
[21:22:26] <CIA-126> rock: Amos Wenger master * r281acfb / sdk/structs/Stack.ooc : Indentation in Stack - http://git.io/rTyEEA
[21:22:27] <fredreichbier_> huh, indentation-based call chaining?
[21:22:58] <shamanas> its not exactly chain calling
[21:23:04] <shamanas> read further :P
[21:23:27] <shamanas> locks: just a little exercise so i can implement a lang
[21:25:04] <fredreichbier_> Accesses the b field of obj then class the println method of the b field :D <- this thing?
[21:26:00] <shamanas> woot what the heck
[21:26:04] <shamanas> i wrote that? oO
[21:26:35] <shamanas> then call the prinltn method ...
[21:26:58] <shamanas> lemme fix this.. there are many typos actually, my keyboard starts falling apart :P
[21:28:33] <fredreichbier_> hehe
[21:28:36] <fredreichbier_> what should it do then? :D
[21:28:56] <shamanas> what it does in ooc xD
[21:29:08] <shamanas> just my crappy way of saying whitespace accesses fields
[21:29:59] <fredreichbier_> hehe
[21:30:03] <fredreichbier_> what's the object of `      toInt() sin() toString() println()
[21:30:03] <fredreichbier_> `?
[21:30:12] <fredreichbier_> obj or obj b?
[21:30:25] <shamanas> obj b
[21:30:44] <shamanas> the indentation is supposed to show that
[21:30:54] <fredreichbier_> that's what i meant by indentation-based call chaining ^^
[21:30:58] <fredreichbier_> (badly worded, sorry)
[21:31:16] <shamanas> pretty much, y
[21:31:16] <fredreichbier_> (obj = { a = _ }) <- hmmm, isn't the first = more of a test for .. matching? :D
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[21:32:14] <shamanas> you think (obj{ a = _}) would be better?
[21:32:23] <shamanas> i thought about that to
[21:32:26] <shamanas> too*
[21:34:21] <fredreichbier_> or another "matching" operator or so
[21:34:24] <fredreichbier_> but it looks cool!
[21:34:27] <fredreichbier_> keep us posted =D
[21:35:04] <shamanas> well you can watch pride-lang, you will pretty much see any change that i do :p
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[21:42:42] <fredreichbier_> sounds like a good idea
[21:43:41] <shamanas> my army of followers is growing muahahaha <evil laugh>
[21:44:19] <shamanas> you think (obj ~ { a = _ } ) would be nice
[21:44:21] <shamanas> ?
[21:45:14] <duckinator> shamanas: i'm one of your creepers...er...followers. yea that.. ;D
[21:45:26] <shamanas> duckinator: ohai :)
[21:45:59] <duckinator> ohai, and obai as well. be back in ~15 mins :P
[21:46:26] <fredreichbier_> OH YES I LOVE DA TILDE
[21:46:54] <shamanas> rly? :P
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[21:48:25] <locks> LOL
[21:48:32] <locks> random fandom
[21:50:30] <shamanas> the tilde in this case will be read obj has ...
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[22:06:14] <duckinator> hi
[22:06:27] <duckinator> oh of course he left :P
[22:15:26] <nddrylliog> WELL OF COURSE HE DID.
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[22:20:58] <nddrylliog> Oddity007: o/
[22:21:04] <Oddity007> Heeeey
[22:21:57] <Oddity007> btw, I lol'd when you wrote "Everytime you say "v8 is fast", a generation of Lua coders is laughing at you."
[22:22:18] <Oddity007> Using github as a way to blog: WIN.
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[23:17:47] <nddrylliog> Oddity007: :)
[23:17:52] <nddrylliog> Oddity007: yeah, it's pretty cool
[23:33:13] <duckinator> hi
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[23:58:30] <nddrylliog> wow, 25 peeps
[23:58:52] <locks> yay :)
[23:58:57] <locks> we don't need you anymore
[23:59:04] <locks> <3 duckinator <3 shamanas





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