April 5, 2018 
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ZZZzzz…)[19:41:26] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2001:1620:f45:0:6af6:cc41:c87:df78> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[19:43:04] <Cthulhux> \o/ my first omnios update (151024v) and it was damn fast to perform. i love that.[19:43:25] * Cthulhux surely needs to stop automatically typing "pkg upgrade" though.. bad habits[19:45:56] <Cthulhux> can i, somehow, get rid of "old" BEs automatically?[19:50:34] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@unaffiliated/sjorge> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[19:55:21] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@unaffiliated/sjorge> has joined #omnios[20:12:42] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has joined #omnios[20:15:49] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@unaffiliated/sjorge> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[20:19:56] *** dmip1 <dmip1!~Thunderbi@212.34.48.157> has joined #omnios[20:20:55] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@unaffiliated/sjorge> has joined #omnios[20:21:57] *** dmip <dmip!~Thunderbi@83.220.238.92> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:21:57] *** dmip1 is now known as dmip[20:28:31] <hadfl> you can add the option '--no-backup-be' when doing 'pkg update' which will prevent it from creating one[20:29:56] <Cthulhux> i see, thanks .)[20:41:07] <andyf> You can also stop it creating any backup BEs with `pkg set-property be-policy when-required`[20:41:32] <andyf> but they don't take up a great deal of space and one day you will need an old BE[20:42:03] <andyf> You can clean up all old ones with a one-line script like[20:42:28] *** senilio <senilio!~merde@senil.io> has left #omnios ("WeeChat 1.9")[20:42:57] <andyf> beadm list -H | awk -F\; '$3 == ""{print $1}' | xargs -i beadm destroy -F {}[20:44:33] <Cthulhux> i can see where it might come in handy[20:44:54] <Cthulhux> so i won't stop it creating them :) but thank you for the one-liner.. stored![20:44:55] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@12.247.3.50> has joined #omnios[20:48:02] <andyf> When I do an update that requires a reboot, I usually use --be-name too - something like `pkg update --be-name=r151024v`[20:52:17] <Cthulhux> sounds reasonable. i find "omnios-1" to be illogical.[20:52:26] <Cthulhux> why isn't that the default?[20:54:43] <andyf> Interesting question.. the default for a new installation is `omnios` and the default for any new BE is to add -1, -2 etc.[20:54:47] *** daleg <daleg!~daleg@2607:f308:7::da1e> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[20:54:54] *** daleg <daleg!~daleg@2607:f308:7::da1e> has joined #omnios[20:55:01] <andyf> I don't think pkg can tell what version it's about to update to in advance[20:55:15] <andyf> it might be something we can improve in the future though..[20:55:32] <Cthulhux> wouldn't it get the info over a package or something?[20:56:14] <andyf> I'll stick it on the project board and we can look at it for the next development cycle[20:56:25] <Cthulhux> thank you :)[20:56:35] <Cthulhux> small inconveniences are small enough.[21:08:53] *** phyre <phyre!~phyre___@188.208.100.225> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[21:40:32] *** phyre <phyre!~phyre___@188.208.100.225> has joined #omnios[22:02:40] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@static-108-48-124-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #omnios[22:10:18] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[22:19:32] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc92716-cmbg20-2-0-cust138.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:31:21] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has joined #omnios[22:36:42] *** phyre <phyre!~phyre___@188.208.100.225> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:00:06] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has joined #omnios[23:03:04] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:04:48] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:08:05] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@12.247.3.50> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[23:09:28] *** dmip <dmip!~Thunderbi@212.34.48.157> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:21:01] <ENOMAD> Having too many small inconveniences can be a large problem, though.[23:21:01] <ENOMAD> "Pecked to death by ducks."[23:21:07] <ENOMAD> or "Death by 1,000 paper cuts."[23:23:28] *** dmip <dmip!~Thunderbi@212.34.48.157> has joined #omnios[23:27:13] <Cthulhux> pecked to death by ducks would be awesome.[23:30:38] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:32:28] *** dmip <dmip!~Thunderbi@212.34.48.157> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[23:35:06] * ENOMAD quirks an eyebrow[23:43:47] *** psychicist__ <psychicist__!~psychicis@ip127-8-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:48:21] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has joined #omnios