September 6, 2017 
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current solaris src under an open license are slim to none?[16:13:51] *** disposable2 <disposable2!~Thunderbi@213.164.31.89> has quit IRC (Quit: disposable2)[16:13:52] *** daleg_ is now known as daleg[16:13:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o daleg[16:14:02] <daleg> your guess is as good as anyone else's[16:14:29] <daleg> given oracle's proclivities in this area, I'd agree the chance is indeed slim to none[16:14:38] *** disposable2 <disposable2!~Thunderbi@213.164.31.89> has joined #omnios[16:33:08] <nahamu> I wonder if any big customers had licensing agreements that included some sort of source code escrow continuity type thing.[16:33:38] <nahamu> "we're entitled to a CDDL licensed copy of the last version you gave us if you discontinue the product" type thing.[16:34:03] <nahamu> Probably not, but that doesn't stop my wishful thinking.[16:34:43] <nahamu> though with the encryption code from Datto for ZFS, there's not a ton of stuff left from Oracle's version that I'm particularly curious about.[16:35:26] <jimklimov> they had (or claimed in docs at least) a number of nice features for local zones[16:35:29] <jimklimov> https://meshedinsights.com/2016/09/20/open-source-unlikely-to-be-abandonware/[16:35:58] <Kurlon> I'd think any SMB improvements would be worth looking at[16:36:00] <jimklimov> there's also an interesting series of blog posts from Simon Phipps (Sun Opensource Evangelist, OSI president)[16:36:26] <jimklimov> the post above in particular details how > Accusing a company of “dumping” their project as open source is probably misplaced – it’s an expensive business no-one would do frivolously.[16:37:22] <jimklimov> in case of Solaris - maybe they did not add so much proprietary stuff since OpenSolaris was legal, that depends on other parties IP[16:38:04] <jimklimov> in case of other products, it seems to be quite expensive to just prepare the open-sourcing and not get sued for that[16:57:13] *** Nerakhon <Nerakhon!~janpaul@2001:1528:115:3::52d0:2535> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[17:04:46] <danmcd> jimklimov: NFS-server-in-a-zone would be nice, and that's in LawnmowerOS.[17:05:20] <danmcd> Though Garrett's startup DEY apparently had one, but that source is locked up with whomever owns the DEY assets. :([17:14:09] *** kohju <kohju!~kohju@gw.justplayer.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:26:43] *** alhazred <alhazred!~Alex@dsl-lprbrasgw1-54fa97-142.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC ()[17:33:19] *** disposable2 <disposable2!~Thunderbi@213.164.31.89> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:34:13] * ENOMAD would like encryption in ZFS if it ever came to be.[17:34:30] <ENOMAD> Then I wouldn't have to keep playing games with GPG.[17:36:46] *** FuntDobraX1Gen5 <FuntDobraX1Gen5!~FuntDobra@213.251.226.143> has joined #omnios[17:55:25] *** slx86 <slx86!~Thunderbi@46-129-44-239.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl> has joined #omnios[17:59:07] *** slx86 <slx86!~Thunderbi@46-129-44-239.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Client 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I'll let people who actually program do that. :)[19:31:42] <nahamu> I meant if you want to keep an eye on when that PR gets merged.[19:31:45] <ENOMAD> When it shows up in FBSD and OmniOS as a tested/released feature I'll be happy to use it.[19:31:50] <nahamu> Fair enough.[19:31:59] <ENOMAD> (very happy, that is)[19:32:08] <nahamu> indeed[19:32:29] <ENOMAD> I have workarounds in place for now. They're annoying but work.[19:32:38] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@172.58.67.82> has joined #omnios[19:32:56] *** natkin_ <natkin_!~textual@2607:fb90:d7f:6d13:6da7:1941:4e96:1165> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[19:51:08] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@31.7.243.238> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:10:12] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@172.58.67.82> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:12:15] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@dynamic-109-81-208-186.ipv4.broadband.iol.cz> has joined #omnios[20:22:25] *** FuntDobraX1Gen5 <FuntDobraX1Gen5!~FuntDobra@213.251.226.143> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[20:38:34] *** slx86 <slx86!~Thunderbi@46-129-44-239.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: slx86)[21:13:28] <ENOMAD> before I go and start randomly wgetting, I want to make sure http://www.omniosce.org is the new official maintainer site for OmniOS.[21:13:48] <ENOMAD> I thought I saved the announcement email but evidently I was overly efficient in cleaning that mailbox.[21:23:55] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@dynamic-109-81-208-186.ipv4.broadband.iol.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[22:12:03] <sjorge> nahamu: I'd love to get the pf port :p[22:12:16] <sjorge> But that is about it, Datto's crypto looks way better from what I understand[22:17:18] <nahamu> sjorge: oh. yes. definitely.[22:49:54] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@172.56.7.204> has joined #omnios[22:51:48] <nahamu> okay, so yes, there's some interesting stuff locked up inside Oracle after all.[22:54:23] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@172.56.7.204> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[22:59:46] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has joined #omnios[23:03:27] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:04:01] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:27:01] *** malonion <malonion!~malonion@wsip-70-163-47-98.ks.ks.cox.net> has joined #omnios[23:56:51] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@98.13.72.207> has joined #omnios