November 17, 2013 
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Installed on an OmniOS with Nappit to go. Now i want to detach my usb stick and grow/auto expand the rpool. but it dosnt work. i set autoexpand property to on, set it new online with zpool online -e rpool c3d1s0. but still the same size and now i dont have an idea what i can do to use the whole disk[13:12:52] <_deruntote_> anyone has another idea what i can do? Perhaps its just not possible to grow the volume of rpools ?[13:15:10] *** sebasp_ is now known as sebasp[13:21:35] *** ilovezfs has joined #omnios[13:25:03] *** slx86 has quit IRC[13:26:17] *** gea has joined #omnios[13:29:24] <gea> You can reinstall OmniOs + napp-it wihin a couple of minutes or check[13:29:25] <gea> http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1680337[13:31:34] <_deruntote_> thx gea[13:31:46] <_deruntote_> this tutorial was the only one i found =)[13:31:55] <_deruntote_> but its too long, i wasnt sure[13:32:41] *** wayneeseguin has quit IRC[13:38:32] *** wayneeseguin has joined #omnios[13:42:01] <_deruntote_> can u help me on one point on this tutorial?[13:42:01] <_deruntote_> 27. Press p and enter again to print the partition[13:42:23] <_deruntote_> the next steps.. i dont get how to calculate the new values for partitionsize[13:43:17] <_deruntote_> or does anyone has the PDF ? ^^[13:43:36] <_deruntote_> gea still there?[13:44:22] <ghost75_> if yes i would like to know if omnios has any way to use WOL[13:49:00] <ghost75_> _deruntote: i guess its start and endsector as listed in partition tool (gparted)[13:50:45] <gea> I have not done that myself but it is basically a recreation of the partition with the same beginning and a larger size.[13:50:47] <gea> You can use the default end (use all)[13:50:48] <gea> @ghost75_: is suppose no[13:51:06] <ghost75_> ok[13:51:15] <_deruntote_> whats this backup partition?[13:51:47] <ghost75_> one thing i dont understand, if you delete a partiton and recreate it, why is the data not lost?[13:52:01] <_deruntote_> its zfs[13:52:07] <_deruntote_> magic goblins do all the work..[13:52:43] <_deruntote_> great the default end is still the 16gb size of previous usb stick[13:52:48] <_deruntote_> god damn[13:54:22] <ghost75_> cant believe that zfs has no resize[13:55:14] <_deruntote_> hmmm i cant resize the backup partition[13:55:25] <ghost75_> why[13:55:52] <_deruntote_> Warning: Partition with V_BACKUP tag should specify full disk capacity.[13:56:15] <ghost75_> beyond my scope :>[13:56:25] <ghost75_> just reinstall it[13:56:28] <_deruntote_> http://pastebin.com/download.php?i=5KCetibt[13:56:33] <_deruntote_> nooooooooo[13:56:40] <_deruntote_> okay isped 8hrs with this problem[13:57:00] <_deruntote_> more then i needed to get that far after install = )[13:57:32] <ghost75_> 12673c <- why put the c[13:58:40] <_deruntote_> cylinder[13:59:05] <_deruntote_> Total disk cylinders available: 14590 + 2 (reserved cylinders)[13:59:18] <_deruntote_> 14590 - before cylinder count[13:59:24] <_deruntote_> 14590 - 1919[13:59:37] <ghost75_> try to view sectors[13:59:49] <_deruntote_> 12671c[13:59:49] <_deruntote_> uh i did the last calculate wrong[14:01:37] <_deruntote_> YEAH[14:01:48] <_deruntote_> okay i dont know what this backup is for[14:01:49] <_deruntote_> but who needs backups ..[14:01:53] <_deruntote_> rpool 97G[14:02:55] <ghost75_> so you deleted zfs partition without mirror and created again?[14:03:03] <_deruntote_> yes, yesterday[14:03:11] <_deruntote_> i finished it with the format command[14:03:23] <_deruntote_> gparted wasnt enoth[14:03:34] <_deruntote_> ure new to zfs? unix ?[14:03:44] <ghost75_> so where is the part to keep data oO[14:04:25] <_deruntote_> its all virtual. Partitions are just entry points. Pointer to a single place where a partition starts.[14:04:47] <_deruntote_> now the OS comes and start reading from this point and find perhaps informations about the filesystem[14:04:49] <_deruntote_> i didnt change the startingpoint of the partition. only the finishingpoint[14:05:17] <_deruntote_> no blocks are changes if you change the partitiontable.[14:06:35] <ghost75_> hmm ok[14:06:45] <_deruntote_> and its not that complex if u change a normal zpool[14:07:11] <_deruntote_> under windows its most times just not possible to do things like that[14:07:31] <ghost75_> its possible[14:07:53] <ghost75_> diskpart[14:08:43] <_deruntote_> ya but not while its running and windows is running on this disk[14:08:44] <_deruntote_> ;)[14:08:57] <_deruntote_> my girlfriend want to wath her seasons in livingroom. cant go offline xD[14:09:01] <ghost75_> even this i think[14:09:30] <_deruntote_> okay[14:09:48] <_deruntote_> another question. is there a simple init.d script around perfect for omnios?[14:10:44] <_deruntote_> i want to start virtualbox on boot with phpvirtualbox[14:10:50] <ghost75_> is this not deprecated[14:12:37] <gea> napp-it starts via /etc/init.d/napp-it, you can use it as a template[14:14:50] <_deruntote_> k, hmm a good kill command for vboxwebsrv ??[14:15:06] <_deruntote_> just the same u did pkill -f "napp-it-mhttpd"[14:16:19] <ghost75_> svcadm[14:20:00] <_deruntote_> i think it works now[14:20:09] <_deruntote_> gea, thx for your help today. u deliver a great appliance with your napp it.[14:20:34] <_deruntote_> perhaps in feature i will buy a private licence from you ; )[14:24:50] *** tozhu has joined #omnios[14:51:33] *** wuff has joined #omnios[14:56:31] *** _deruntote_ has quit IRC[14:59:30] *** gea has quit IRC[15:00:12] *** Gibheer has quit IRC[15:00:54] *** mtg`` has quit IRC[15:01:04] *** Gibheer has joined #omnios[15:04:45] *** mtg` has joined #omnios[15:09:32] *** tozhu has left #omnios[15:09:53] *** zzzzztop has joined #omnios[15:11:27] *** szaydel has joined #omnios[15:13:02] <zzzzztop> un giorno devi andare[15:13:29] *** zzzzztop has quit IRC[15:17:33] <ghost75_> mafia[16:25:57] *** jellydonut has quit IRC[16:27:21] *** jellydonut has joined #omnios[16:29:46] *** jellydonut has quit IRC[16:30:33] *** jellydonut has joined #omnios[16:38:29] *** nefilim has joined #omnios[16:53:00] <ghost75_> zfs scrub runs with like kb/s wtf[16:55:40] <MerlinDMC> scrub has low io priority[16:58:17] <xenol> ghost75_: http://broken.net/uncategorized/zfs-performance-tuning-for-scrubs-and-resilvers/ might help you, but if it is a production machine I wouldn't touch it[16:58:29] <xenol> it can do bad things[17:05:44] <ghost75_> something wrong with a disk i think[17:06:44] *** slx86 has joined #omnios[17:12:30] *** slx86 has quit IRC[17:19:50] <bdha> ghost75_: iostat -xne 1 ; note the error columns.[17:20:06] <ghost75_> not needed[17:20:09] <bdha> Also a consistnat 100 busy % on one disk is an indicator.[17:20:49] <ghost75_> why zfs didnt detect the disk as broken[17:21:38] <bdha> Why isn't there a unicorn farting clowns in my background right now for my own strange amusement?[17:21:45] <bdha> Software and hardware working in concert is a shitshow.[17:21:58] <bdha> s/background/backyard/ # boo[17:22:39] <apeiron> if it helps you feel any better, I read it as backyard[17:22:45] <bdha> ZFS is amazing. But it isn't magic.[17:23:43] <ghost75_> there are pending sectors[17:27:39] <patdk-lap> no magic?[17:27:45] <patdk-lap> I can't stand to run a filesystem without magic[17:27:54] * patdk-lap installs disneyfs[17:28:20] <bdha> Poor Tink. Having to ferry all your blocks around.[17:28:45] <ghost75_> probably thats the price having disks with no tler set[17:28:52] <apeiron> patdk-lap, that filesystem is copyrighted until 2540, please pay licensing fees[17:30:05] <pf_DE> my server just restarted by itself, no command given[17:30:33] <apeiron> do you have a crashdump?[17:30:54] <pf_DE> that means that an unexpected disconnection of a usb device (I am still nvestigating what caused it) causes a crash, because I see one external HD off, even with the switch on[17:31:16] <apeiron> not necessarily[17:31:16] <pf_DE> now I check the crashdump, but what should I do with it? I have no experience[17:31:25] <apeiron> either learn or upload it to thoth[17:32:37] <pf_DE> 2 GB compressed :/[17:33:14] <pf_DE> how to start with the "learning"? as long as it does not involve launching a gdb debugger or similar[17:34:59] <bdha> pf_DE: You inspect crashdumps with mdb, generally.[17:34:59] <MerlinDMC> not gdb ... mdb :)[17:35:01] <bdha> http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/4386-Less-known-Solaris-features-About-crashes-and-cores-Part-1-Introduction.html[17:35:18] <pf_DE> I was looking online and I had just found http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23824_01/html/821-1451/tscrashdumps-31.html[17:35:21] <bdha> Part 4 is the meaty bit. But there are other tutorials.[17:39:52] <pf_DE> decompressing...[17:41:21] <pf_DE> http://pastebin.com/wpM2w5WD[17:41:39] <pf_DE> vdev_deadman[17:42:18] <pf_DE> that means a vdev died? the usb disk in this case?[17:43:27] *** szaydel has quit IRC[17:53:09] <ghost75_> is there a rescan command?[17:53:13] <ghost75_> for disks[17:53:52] <apeiron> devfsadm[18:03:13] <pf_DE> I ooked up vdev_deadman online but nothing[18:05:40] <pf_DE> but if I search only "deadman" I understand it's a sort of watchdog[18:07:58] <pf_DE> let's hope it was the usb drives[18:12:22] *** ddeag has quit IRC[18:12:31] *** RoyK has joined #omnios[18:13:13] *** RoyK has left #omnios[18:17:33] <ghost75_> hmm the sata cable was loose[18:17:42] <ghost75_> is it possible to have pending sectors because of that?[18:23:30] <ghost75_> naw[18:23:38] <ghost75_> short smart selftest shows even read error[18:29:59] *** jpeach has joined #omnios[18:33:22] *** wez has joined #omnios[18:36:11] *** gea has joined #omnios[18:45:41] *** jpeach has quit IRC[18:46:08] *** jpeach has joined #omnios[18:49:07] *** wuff has quit IRC[18:50:30] *** jpeach has quit IRC[18:58:42] *** szaydel has joined #omnios[19:37:26] <churnd> trying to set up omnios as a KVM guest with PCI passthrough HBA to omnios[19:37:49] <churnd> getting kernel panics on boot when HBA is connected to the guest[19:38:06] <churnd> passthrough works fine on debian guest, so must be specific to omnios[19:45:06] <ghost75_> what happens if a low level format is done in vendor tool? will pending sectors be removed?[19:49:25] <churnd> ghost75_ yes[19:50:24] <ghost75_> and will not result in reallocated?[19:55:10] *** ilovezfs has quit IRC[20:18:49] <churnd> low level format wipes out the drive completely[20:19:12] *** ilovezfs has joined #omnios[20:21:15] *** wuff has joined #omnios[20:38:31] <ghost75_> i do now run an sector check, lets see if everything is readable[20:38:41] <ghost75_> if this is ok, then low level[21:59:28] *** szaydel has quit IRC[22:12:21] *** wez is now known as wez|away[22:18:53] *** szaydel has joined #omnios[22:26:49] <pf_DE> now that I think about it, I was using the two RAID0 usb disks for external backup, but if a dropped disk causes (or may cause) a whole system crash, I have to abandon the idea[22:32:16] *** aszeszo` has joined #omnios[22:32:51] *** Jeztah` has joined #omnios[22:33:08] <ghost75_> somebody has experience with newer 3,5" toshiba (hgst) desktop drives?[22:33:39] *** Clory_ has joined #omnios[22:33:40] *** aszeszo has quit IRC[22:33:41] *** Jeztah has quit IRC[22:33:41] *** Jeztah` is now known as Jeztah[22:33:42] *** zaph_ has quit IRC[22:33:44] *** Clory has quit IRC[22:34:34] *** zaph_ has joined #omnios[22:34:55] *** philips has quit IRC[22:35:30] *** philips has joined #omnios[22:52:29] *** wez|away is now known as wez[23:09:30] *** mharsch has joined #omnios[23:12:43] *** jpeach has joined #omnios[23:13:00] *** wez is now known as wez|away[23:14:33] <mharsch> does anyone have install media images for a recent bloody build handy?[23:21:38] *** wez|away is now known as wez[23:38:40] *** wez is now known as wez|away[23:42:12] *** pf_DE has quit IRC[23:47:24] *** _Tenchi_ has quit IRC