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[02:27:52] <oibot> Project illumos-gate build #5160: SUCCESS in 1 hr 22 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/5160/
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[14:30:27] <jollyd> xenol: I have generated a gpg key and signed the files, where should I put the public key?
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[15:03:04] <leoric> jollyd: running illumos-kpti bits, what should I check?
[15:05:14] <jollyd> leoric: it seems that overhead is related to hw support for pcid
[15:05:24] <jollyd> jlevon indicated that one can echo ::x86_featureset | mdb -k
[15:05:33] <jollyd> to check it out
[15:06:53] <jollyd> leoric: I guess throwing a lot of syscalls would be good
[15:07:10] <leoric> I evidently don't have it
[15:07:45] <jollyd> then performance should degrade more
[15:07:46] <leoric> was there any cpu firmware update?
[15:07:58] <jollyd> it was backed out
[15:08:05] <jollyd> because it was broken
[15:08:21] <jollyd> pcid support depends on the cpu generation
[15:17:49] <jollyd> leoric: I guess the point of testing is to hammer the system as much as possible and figure out if some intel cpus do not handle it + understand the performance hit.
[15:18:06] <jollyd> estimate
[15:18:09] <jollyd> evaluate
[15:40:39] <leoric> well, this one is 10 years old ;)
[16:05:26] <jollyd> ahah
[16:05:28] <jollyd> :)
[16:05:44] <jollyd> I have just tested the laptop
[16:05:56] <jollyd> X230, so about 5 years old
[16:59:41] <jollyd> should think about relevant benchmarks...
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[17:48:44] <jollyd> leoric: I should have packaged and added cpuid to the ISOs...
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[20:24:10] <jollyd> mnowak_: I saw your pushes, did you have any issue with the KPTI images?
[20:27:32] <jollyd> mnowak_: Just checking your dashboard now :)
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[22:07:47] <jollyd> alanc: do you have any timeline for bumping to Xorg 1.20? I was wondering if I should start playing with the rc1
[22:09:15] <jollyd> leoric, xenol: htop for solaris almost works on OI
[22:09:23] <jollyd> core dumps at exit
[22:09:54] <alanc> jollyd: not yet, probably going to be niveditha doing it again
[22:10:47] <alanc> I did just try building git master for the first time in a while, and needed this: https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/207937/
[22:11:26] <jollyd> alanc: ok, I do not know if it will be of any interest but I could look at it about the same time and share my findings.
[22:12:21] <ptribble> jollyd: I find htop for solaris works much better with ncurses 6
[22:12:50] <mnowak_> jollyd, no issues at all with the images. they passed all relevant tests (mostly installations on various conditions under Linux KVM QEMU). now spinning it under VirtualBox
[22:13:38] <jollyd> ptribble: good to know, but because of dependencies I do not know when the switch will happen
[22:13:43] <mnowak_> jollyd, I could not even claim it's slower, the test run times are well in line with non-KPTI images (the host has PCID)
[22:14:37] <jollyd> alanc: thanks for the info :)
[22:14:58] <ptribble> jollyd: I've updated ncurses on Tribblix to ship both v5 and v6 libraries (the same way omnios does) and that all seems to be working fine
[22:15:22] <jollyd> ptribble: I think alp had some concerns
[22:16:02] <jollyd> mnowak_: thank you for running the test suite, it is very neat :)
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[22:17:21] <jollyd> ptribble: thank for confirming that it should not cause any real issue though :)
[22:17:34] <alanc> I'm still working on finishing the move of some last bits into userland and dealing with 11.4 release stuff
[22:18:38] <jollyd> alanc: does randy still work on drm?
[22:19:26] <alanc> he talks about poking at it when he's bored, but it's not his job any more
[22:19:37] <jollyd> oh
[22:20:59] <jollyd> alanc: did you migrate drm/i915 to userland as well?
[22:21:11] <alanc> that would be one of the bits I need to finish still
[22:21:37] <alanc> randy had tied it's makefiles around the X gate ones, so it's harder to untangle and move
[22:23:40] <jollyd> alanc: gwr moved the bits to a separate gate in our case https://github.com/illumos/gfx-drm/ the component's job is just to fetch and build like for illumos-gate
[22:34:34] <alanc> unfortunately, we have too much process for setting up new Oracle github repos, so it's much easier to stick the code directly in our gate
[22:35:06] <jollyd> I understand
[22:35:47] <alanc> randy does do consulting work now, if someone wants to pay him to work on drm for illumos, but that doesn't seem like something joyent or other companies want to spend that much money on
[22:39:47] <jollyd> yes I am not sure what is the opinion of different actors on the matter
[22:40:45] <jollyd> though I would expect that maintaining a minimal level of usability on current hardware is beneficial to get visibility... not sure how it affects figures
[22:44:18] <jollyd> most of my students stay with the system they use at uni, if they cannot run illumos on their laptop they will never care for it
[22:45:08] <jollyd> same applies to developer/researcher friends. so they develop only on Ubuntu.
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[22:48:09] <jollyd> and without WPA2 entreprise, illumos is a complete no-go in academia
[22:48:19] <jollyd> no eduroam, no chocolate
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[22:51:13] <jollyd> now the question is... what did I smoke/drink when I compiled xorg 1.19.6 last time...
[22:53:14] <jollyd> alanc: by chance do you know what is responsible for generating usr/share/doc/xorg-server/Xserver-DTrace.html ?
[22:54:50] <alanc> I think it's xmlto, on the sources in xserver/doc/dtrace/
[22:56:17] <jollyd> alanc: thank you :) on one machine the files are generated and in the build zone they are not...
[22:56:32] <jollyd> trying to find the missing brick
[23:03:18] <alanc> could be xmlto, lynx, docbook dtds & style sheets, any of the tools called in the xmlto scripts...
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[23:08:20] <jollyd> alanc: I guess this could be the culprit? checking for X.Org SGML entities >= 1.8... no
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[23:16:17] <jollyd> incredible that I managed to miss this more than a year
[23:20:18] <jollyd> alanc: thanks for the hint
[23:30:02] <jollyd> bah this Prelude by Rachmaninov on vinyl is still a treat...
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