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[02:21:22] <oibot> Project illumos-gate build #5141: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/5141/
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[06:05:48] <leoric> richlowe: changing __I_PUSH_NOCTTY to I_PUSH in  usr/src/lib/libc/port/sys/open.c doesn't help
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[07:50:36] <alp_> richlowe: however, if I turn xpg4_fixup() in noop, it fixes all tmux issues ;)
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[14:40:20] <tsoome> darn
[14:40:28] <tsoome> ld.so.1: bash: fatal: libncurses.so.5: open failed: No such file or directory
[14:40:29] <tsoome> ld.so.1: bash: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/bin/bash: symbol PC: referenced symbol not found
[14:41:09] <tsoome> cd boot dropping to single user...
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[14:43:26] <igork> congrats :)
[14:48:57] <tsoome> this “Console login service(s) cannot run” is way too annoying, we really should fix this crap
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[15:17:03] <alp_> tsoome: where did we break it ????
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[16:11:25] <jimklimov> trying to unravel the issue with ssh-askpass(-zenity)
[16:11:52] <jimklimov> so in my ~/.xsession I have this line:
[16:12:09] <jimklimov> /usr/bin/ssh-add </dev/null &
[16:12:56] <jimklimov> it does start the ssh-add program, launches an ssh-askpass helper which is a symlink to the zenity script, and does get the password I enter so it logs e.g.
[16:13:01] <jimklimov> ==> .xsession-errors <== // Identity added: /export/home/jim/.ssh/id_rsa (/export/home/jim/.ssh/id_rsa)
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[16:21:51] <jimklimov> According to some messages on the console (seen early after login if I switch from X11 to VT1) the gnome-keyring-daemon uses "legacy /export/home/jim/.gnome2/keyrings" because it is available
[16:22:05] <jimklimov> and also can not initialize secure memory to acoid writing to disk
[16:22:50] <jimklimov> and then reports that the SSH agent as well as the Secret Service was already initialized
[16:24:38] <jimklimov> ultimately, some program mktmpdir's a /tmp/ssh-XXXXXXBJa4VA with an "agent.$PID_OF_MATE_SESSION" file, e.g. agent.13695 where this is PID of "mate-session" and parent of a dozen processes
[16:27:27] <jimklimov> The X11 session does have defined and exported envvars $SSH_AGENT_PID with PID of "/usr/bin/ssh-agent -- mate-session" which I did not find who launches (per what X-init-script), and a $SSH_AUTH_SOCK pointing to e.g. "/export/home/jim/.cache/keyring-UNM9DZ/ssh"
[16:28:51] <jimklimov> so there's a /tmp/ssh*/agent.* and a ~/.cache/keyring*/ssh couple of sockets
[16:29:09] <jimklimov> one from ssh-agent, another from gnome-keyring:
[16:29:19] <jimklimov> COMMAND     PID USER   FD   TYPE   DEVICE SIZE/OFF      NODE NAME
[16:29:19] <jimklimov> ssh-agent 13751  jim    3u  unix 242,2946      0t0 126877700 /devices/pseudo/tl@0:ticots->0xffffff04105f7878 stream-ord Vn=0xffffff040b11f540 Lcl=/tmp/ssh-XXXXXXBJa4VA/agent.13695
[16:29:19] <jimklimov> gnome-key 13760  jim   11u  unix 242,2998      0t0 126877700 /devices/pseudo/tl@0:ticots->0xffffff041119bc08 stream-ord Vn=0xffffff03fe280380 Lcl=/export/home/jim/.cache/keyring-UNM9DZ/ssh
[16:29:27] <jimklimov> lsof says so
[16:30:27] <jimklimov> apparently, when I start my SSH clients, they take the currently exported $SSH_* envvars and ask gnome keyring for passwords (which it prompts for upon first use)
[16:31:01] <jimklimov> which breaks my, and AFAIK Predrag's, usecases of asking for password as soon as the session was started
[16:31:15] <jimklimov> with another solution which now nobody queries
[16:32:49] <jimklimov> note that the keyring daemon is fully backgrounded - not parented by the WM:
[16:32:56] <jimklimov> jim@jimoi:~$ ps -ef | egrep 'ssh-agent|gnome-key|mate-session'
[16:32:56] <jimklimov>      jim 13760     1   0 16:09:49 ?           0:00 gnome-keyring-daemon --start
[16:32:57] <jimklimov>      jim 13695 13690   0 16:09:48 ?           0:00 mate-session
[16:32:57] <jimklimov>      jim 13751 13695   0 16:09:49 ?           0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent -- mate-session
[16:33:39] <jimklimov> but it seems to be spawned by the WM, maybe even twice (considering those log messages referenced earlier)
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[16:40:56] <jimklimov> so I see two conflicting key managers, and can't find who starts either of them  :)
[16:43:02] <jimklimov> and the ssh-add apparently does register the password into somewhere (and I tested that it's not this program that starts the ssh-agent)
[16:44:14] <jimklimov> After killing the ssh-agent and trying to start it with "/usr/bin/ssh-agent -- mate-session" I was refused with "Could not acquire name on session bus"
[16:45:15] <jimklimov> which seems to have begun starting the window manager and its applets anew :\
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[16:54:46] <jimklimov> `chmod -x /usr/bin/gnome-keyring*` seems to have fixed the issue and broke nothing per quick check
[16:54:58] <jimklimov> e.g. I can start the NWAM applet that asks for root password
[16:55:52] <jimklimov> so it seems to be a bug of gnome-keyring manager that overrides an existing ssh-agent that other programs interact with
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[17:36:28] <alarcher> leoric: I have no clue about the libexec path, also with already have caja as 64-bit, just not by default
[17:38:09] <alarcher> caja-extensions is only 32bit now
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[17:41:54] <leoric> the issue is that if libexec is used only for 'hidden' binaries, it can be /usr/lib/application (/usr/lib/mate in our case) without respect for bitness
[17:42:30] <leoric> the issue with caja extensions is evident - their bitness and caja binary bitness should match
[17:44:33] <alarcher> so there is no specification of what libexec should be in the filesystem manpage?
[17:45:57] <leoric> we have no libexec
[17:46:18] <leoric> in solaris such binaries live in /usr/lib
[17:47:38] <alarcher> so how do we deal with components that deliver both 32 and 64?
[17:47:54] <alarcher> usually
[17:48:53] <leoric> usually we delivered 32-bit bits in /usr/lib and 64-bit in /usr/lib/$(MACH64)
[17:49:35] <leoric> but generally we do not need both types of such binaries
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[18:05:09] <alarcher> leoric: bah anyway, now I have caja, caja-extensions, atril, and engrampa as 64-bit... I will play with them and if we are happy in a few weeks we can merge the PRs.
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[18:13:39] <alarcher> leoric: I guess something in the caja zfs snapshot dereferences a null pointer if the clicked directory was not in a previous snapshot
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[22:55:01] <richlowe> alp_: Well, my only theory was it was becoming the ctty later than it wanted :\
[22:55:06] <richlowe> so no idea, now
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