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[02:56:31] <oibot> Project illumos-gate build #5136: SUCCESS in 1 hr 51 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/5136/
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[04:39:57] <leoric> 'uname -o' can be found in usr/src/lib/libcmd/common/features/utsname
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[04:47:54] <leoric> in ejabberd, firefox, thunderbird, openjdk, node, git, wxwidgets, sun studio (these all seem to be harmless), mariadb (AND THERE IT's CHECKED FOR Solaris!!!)
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[04:58:12] <leoric> we use it in libcmd https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/blob/master/usr/src/lib/libcmd/common/features/utsname
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[08:37:43] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3792: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3792/
[09:10:37] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3793: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3793/
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[10:01:23] <tsoome> i did set up some thoughts about slim_source:)
[10:03:45] <alp_> tsoome: how will it work with mbr installation?
[10:03:55] <alp_> or bios installation?
[10:06:02] <tsoome> it does not change anything about bios
[10:06:45] <tsoome> in an sense that gptzfsboot will go into zpool boot block area anyhow, we just add ability to have ESP and efi boot block
[10:08:18] <alp_> and what if it's not a full-disk rpool?
[10:08:54] <alp_> (like mbr partition)
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[10:32:11] <alp_> buy-buy, gnome-games...
[10:37:01] <jimklimov> nosolitaire and mahjong?
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[10:48:38] <tsoome> alp_: then its entirely up to admin - he/she has to understand if there is existing ESP, if it should be created and how big.
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[10:51:18] <alp_> tsoome: I mean, if we do zpool create -Bf rpool c0d0p1 ?
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[10:57:13] <tsoome> ou
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[10:58:37] <tsoome> ye, -B is *only* for wholedisk
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[11:15:24] <alp_> will it fail or do nothing?
[11:15:35] <alp_> If fail, it needs additional checks
[11:19:02] <tsoome> yes, im looking on it
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[11:21:24] <tsoome> there is another issue btw. with re-using existing pool, if you create manually empty pool, and reuse it, the installer will not create swap/dump and will miss some setup in installed image:)
[11:21:39] <alp_> yes
[11:21:43] <alp_> it's not an issue
[11:21:57] <alp_> it's conscious choice
[11:22:02] <tsoome> ou
[11:22:13] <alp_> if we install to existing pool, we want to modify as little as possible
[11:22:23] <alp_> for example, it already could have swap partitions
[11:22:34] <alp_> (or another OS installed)
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[11:23:22] <alp_> tsoome: you could look at saving more information to install_profile or install_profile.disks
[11:23:33] <tsoome> yes, already reading it
[11:24:16] <alp_> and yes, code requires some refactoring, it's ugly now
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[12:10:07] <tsoome> alp_: how you actually test it?:P
[12:10:21] <alp_> what exactly?
[12:10:29] <tsoome> the slim code
[12:10:42] <alp_> create iso and install OI :)
[12:10:48] <alp_> or do you mean 'debug' ?
[12:11:15] <tsoome> well, i do not have custom userland, just gate + oi repo:D
[12:11:44] <alp_> what do you mean - you published slim_source somewhere?
[12:12:14] <alp_> Well, to test it you need third repo :)
[12:13:03] <alp_> install updated distro_const and use it to create iso with modified slim_source packages
[12:14:07] <alp_> as for 'debug', I think I had a script somewhere which created 'modifiable' slim_source copy at ~jack/something on live CD
[12:15:12] <tsoome> https://github.com/OpenIndiana/slim_source/pull/35/commits/4240a89984225acf2b3b22d4f39cf719b68e912d
[12:15:20] <tsoome> i think this one is better there
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[12:15:38] <alp_> seems so
[12:16:05] <tsoome> just need to test it somehow:D
[12:17:24] <tsoome> but I would like to attend nvme and loader bits first so will see later…
[12:36:46] <alp_> https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/3957 - Gnome removal :)
[12:37:18] <alarcher> alp_: \o/
[12:37:43] <alp_> well, it's a second step
[12:37:53] <alp_> first was gdm and some other basic apps
[12:38:04] <alp_> but this is not all
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[12:45:00] <Woodstock> alp_: do you also remove gnome-settings-daemon?
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[13:18:00] <alp_> already removed
[13:33:40] <Woodstock> alp_: then it would be useful to make mate-settings-daemon actually work
[13:35:02] <Woodstock> alp_: with the bits from a few days ago it won't change audio volume, that is: it indicates that it does, but it really doesn't do anything
[13:35:13] <Woodstock> and it's also killing my xmodmap settings
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[13:45:52] <alp_> about audio volume I have several bug reports :)
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[13:46:43] <alp_> briefly, check that volume is controlled on audiohd#0 device, not on PCM sink in volume properties
[13:47:07] <alp_> (sound preferences => output)
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[13:49:08] <Woodstock> did that
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[13:51:06] <Woodstock> that is, i made input and output go to audiohd#0
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[14:07:31] <alp_> Woodstock: the mechanics is the following
[14:07:49] <alp_> audiohd#0 is a real audio device
[14:07:58] <alp_> pulseaudio can control its settings
[14:08:07] <alp_> and there are some pseudo devices
[14:08:41] <alp_> when you logout, lightdm saves current settings in ~/.audioctl/audioctl-*
[14:08:54] <alp_> and on login it loads them
[14:09:05] <alp_> (so settings daemons are not involved)
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[14:16:15] <Woodstock> alp_: the settings daemon is responsible for receiving the volume up/down keys events, and mate-volume-control even changes accordingly. what does not change is audio volume, though.
[14:19:59] <alp_> Woodstock: strange, works here
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[14:20:20] <alp_> does ' audioctl show-control '  show changes?
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[14:21:41] <Woodstock> alp_: nope
[14:23:29] <alp_> and in sound preferences output device is set to audiohd#0?
[14:24:01] <Woodstock> yes
[14:24:25] <alp_> does changing volume by volume applet controller work?
[14:27:40] <Woodstock> nope
[14:27:49] <Woodstock> that is, of course the setting changes, but volume doesn't
[14:28:23] <Woodstock> and 'audioctl show-control' also doesn't change
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[14:29:45] <Woodstock> list-devices shows both audiohd#1 and audiohd#0, in that order. apparently the mate stuff affects audiohd#1, while it should be audiohd#0
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[14:35:02] <alp_> ah, that can be true
[14:35:26] <alp_> I mean, likely it doesn't work with multiple devices
[14:35:49] <alp_> it's mainly not mate, but pulse/oss interfaces
[14:36:39] <alp_> likely, something wrong here https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/blob/oi/hipster/components/desktop/pulseaudio/patches/08-oss4.patch
[14:36:46] <Woodstock> well, this is just a plain old thinkpad, i didn't add any extra audio devices
[14:37:28] <Woodstock> can't the mate stuff just bypass that pulseaudio crap and control the device correctly?
[14:37:33] <alp_> no
[14:37:49] <alp_> it works only via pulseaudio
[14:38:00] <alp_> (at least now)
[14:39:01] <Woodstock> great
[14:39:51] <Woodstock> so mate only works with pulseaudio and never deals with real hardware itself?
[14:40:11] <alp_> yes
[14:40:27] <Woodstock> is that because it cannot deal with real hardware, or is that a choice at build time?
[14:40:38] <alp_> component is here - https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/tree/oi/hipster/components/desktop/mate/libmatemixer
[14:40:55] <alp_> I suppose it just can't
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[14:41:40] <alp_> pulseaudio, alsa...
[14:41:52] <Woodstock> ok, and i figure pulseaudio doesn't know anything about illumos oss without that patch, and that patch is just a bit simple-minded?
[14:43:10] <Woodstock> apparently libmatemixer has an oss backend
[14:43:13] <Woodstock> does that not work?
[14:45:07] <alp_> I'm checking
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[14:57:19] <alp_> Woodstock: yes, you are correct (about this patch and pulseaudio)
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[15:18:51] <alp_> Woodstock: https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/3958
[15:19:02] <alp_> Woodstock: I don't see any changes....
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[15:21:45] <Woodstock> alp_: what changes did you expect?
[15:22:16] <Woodstock> alp_: does the configure output indicate that it is enabled?
[15:27:29] <alp_> yes
[15:27:37] <alp_> I don't know what changes I expect
[15:27:53] <alp_> I just enabled oss plugin and it was buitl
[15:28:08] <alp_> don't know how make software actually use it
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[15:32:14] <Woodstock> hm
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[15:38:05] <Woodstock> alp_: --disable-pulseaudio :)
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[22:35:58] <psydroid_> alarcher, unfortunately I can't test anything on my machine now because (don't laugh) the one machine I have that is running openindiana because I could only install it on that, only has vga out and I lost that cable somewhere so I need to order new ones
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[22:40:00] <psydroid_> at the same time it is the only one containing an nforce chipset with geforce 7025 graphics onboard so it would be good for testing purposes
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