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[00:11:22] <igork> i have 2.29.1 on dilos
[00:11:34] <igork> with gcc5 & gcc6 boostrap
[00:11:40] <igork> on intel and sparc
[00:11:46] <igork> with gcc44 too
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[00:34:20] <jollyd> richlowe: jacobs works on 2.30
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[00:55:47] <jollyd> jacobs: if at some point your are willing to get wider testing with binutils 2.30 I can push it to the testing repository
[00:56:03] <jollyd> just let me know :)
[00:57:42] <jollyd> time to sleep.. 1am
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[01:30:56] <jacobs> richlowe, binutils 2.30 https://github.com/normjacobs/oi-userland/commit/262ead7f848c8157894bb4e8bc4ad8364f817f47
[01:33:09] <jacobs> I have a couple of other changesets in my oi-userland binutils branch to build and package multiple variants to ultimately enable cross compilation support in GCC
[01:34:02] <richlowe> I just need it (or the bad hack I'm using instead), to avoid some code in gcc I'm sceptical of.
[01:34:40] <richlowe> the "old gas" path is at the very least not useful, and I'm not sure how to see whether it's correct, either.
[01:34:46] <jacobs> The commit I referenced above is just the update to 2.30
[01:35:26] <richlowe> I'm hoping my hack gets me something I can debug
[01:35:39] <richlowe> rather than something dis(1) thinks is going to jmp to 0x0 almost immediately, and certainly has the appearance of doing so
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[02:53:43] <oibot> Project illumos-gate build #5134: SUCCESS in 1 hr 48 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/5134/
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[05:27:18] <leoric> alarcher: +1 on switching mongodb to gcc 6
[05:28:35] <richlowe> leoric: they mentioned you'd be the one to tell that the pkg5 you ship didn't disable the thing that strips the CDDL from the .py files
[05:28:38] <richlowe> and you should.
[05:29:11] <leoric> OK...
[05:37:10] <richlowe> leoric: also, manual pages point to java.net still, and the Solaris 11.2 manual :)
[05:39:39] <leoric> well, as docs.oi.org or wiki is not always suitable to send there end users, I'd better send them to Solaris documentations :)
[05:52:43] <leoric>  richlowe: after REQURIED_PACKAGES commit is merged, splitting SUNWcs will be very interesting
[05:56:20] <leoric> Agnar: looking at your failure , I suspect it's mix of -fno-stack-protector and -fstack-protector code
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[06:07:01] <jacobs> fwiw, pynacl appears to try to build and install it's own libsodium by default.  Setting SODIUM_INSTALL=system in the environment has it use the one on the system, which appears to be linked correctly.
[06:16:20] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3789: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3789/
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[11:15:17] <alp_> Toasterson, tsoome, xenol: Our auto-installer depends on libwanboot. If it's going to be removed, we have several choices: a) drop sparc and wanboot support from installer ; b) drop sparc and wanboot and auto_install support from installer; c) fix auto_installer to work without libwanboot....
[11:15:46] <alp_> If nobody volunteers for c), perhaps I'll have to do b...
[11:16:35] <tsoome> is the auto install in oi actually usable?;)
[11:16:54] <Toasterson> alp_ I was working on a completely new Auto-intaller system based on sysding and my works on appc it is not complete yet but only needs a day or so more work.
[11:17:15] <Toasterson> tsoome last i checked no
[11:17:43] <Toasterson> alp_ i am for option b
[11:19:50] <tsoome> well, in that case it is simple, option b and if there is noise about it, you have found an volunteer to get it fixed:D
[11:21:03] <tsoome> to be really honest, even with s11 the AI and automation is quite painful and filled with traps…
[11:21:46] <Toasterson> tsoome which is why I started my project in the first place :)
[11:22:00] <tsoome> there is no decent support for modern enterprise infrastructure....
[11:22:14] <Toasterson> tsoome what would that include?
[11:22:21] <tsoome> AD
[11:22:47] <tsoome> thats major requirement now.
[11:22:52] <Toasterson> ah i see. Post installation config stuff
[11:23:08] <tsoome> not just
[11:23:49] <tsoome> starting with host deployment...
[11:24:12] <tsoome> and host can be global or local zone…
[11:24:42] <Toasterson> well for that we have sysding. which could use more expansion aswell
[11:25:21] <tsoome> we do not even have decent way to connect to AD:)
[11:25:57] <Toasterson> oh? You mean ldapclient is not good enough?
[11:26:06] <tsoome> of course it is not
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[11:32:30] <tsoome> the ldapclient is doing only basic job, if you have large setup with many sites and groups etc, even basic group membership check (id -a) will take *long* time. We did see ~minute.
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[11:38:33] <Toasterson> ok is there some documentation of what would need to be done e.g. requirements and config best practices?
[11:39:26] <tsoome> thats good question:)
[11:42:03] <tsoome> for practices it really is about vendor (microsoft) docs.
[11:44:09] <tsoome> we have naive simple client to use limited ldap (and kerberos), but that client is barely enough for actual use…
[11:46:24] <Toasterson> I see that AD is a topic aswell but from what I read now It seems to be big enough for its own little project. It sounds that it's not just about setting up an AD connected server but also that support tools etc have missing features.
[11:46:52] <Toasterson> Setting up all the AD stuff could be put into an ansible rulebook for sharing
[11:47:12] <Toasterson> the client tools would be a n illumos.org project for a developer
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[12:15:42] <xenol> alp_: b
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[13:40:16] <alp_> alarcher: Hi. When (and how) http://pkg.openindiana.org/gcc-6/ is updated? Is it done manually?
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[14:35:55] <alp_> jollyd: can we rebasee, resync gcc-6 repository, test it and announce public testing or are we not ready yet?
[14:38:24] <jollyd> this should be fine, we need to document the procedure and make sure that no dependency issue will come in the way.
[14:39:54] <jollyd> alp_: the last time I synced was yesterday after w3m
[14:41:15] <alp_> I can test this by updating my PC in the evening :) And likely we need regular job, as soon after announcement latest /hipster will not be able to update to /gcc-6 as it'll be a downgrade
[14:42:02] <alp_> or no
[14:42:12] <alp_> not necessary, but can be
[14:43:38] <jollyd> so far my workstation, my laptop, and media center run this repo
[14:44:01] <jollyd> (two of them run illumos-gate with gcc-6 from another repo)
[14:44:12] <alp_> likely I'll be able to devote some time on build server update && repository rebuild on this or next weekend
[14:44:38] <jollyd> the workstation runs illumos-gate build with gcc il-4.4.4
[14:44:42] <jollyd> built
[14:44:43] <jollyd> ok
[14:44:54] <alp_> but we need public testing prior to doing it
[14:45:30] <alp_> and before announcing public testing we should be sure that we have no issues with updating from current /hipster to /gcc-6 in any moment
[14:47:02] <jollyd> alp_: also is disk space an issue on the build server?
[14:48:06] <alp_> we have ~ 100 GB in oi-userland build area
[14:48:10] <jollyd> ah .. I'd love a second T430 to only do the builds but my girlfriend will not be happy if I spent so much money in a server ;)
[14:48:43] <jollyd> the gcc-6 repo was about 14GB last time I checked
[14:49:09] <alp_> do you speak about build server or pkg?
[14:49:13] <Toasterson> jollyd what are you using as media center software?
[14:49:45] <jollyd> I have an old build of Kodi
[14:50:09] <Toasterson> uhh nice. Good to know.
[14:50:38] <jollyd> alp_: ok I did not remember that they were separate
[14:50:48] <jollyd> discard my stupid question
[14:51:26] <jollyd> Toasterson: someone contributed the components 1.5 year ago I think, I pushed all the deps to oi-userland but never took the time to push the actual Kodi
[14:52:36] <jollyd> hmm no all the deps
[14:52:46] <jollyd> I did not push mdns-embedded
[14:54:32] <jollyd> gah for some reason the test results are cropped.. need to re-run with -msave-args...
[14:55:27] <alp_> what test results?
[14:55:41] <jollyd> for gcc 7.3
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[14:59:14] <jollyd> alp_: btw I commented on the openjdk-8 update: I use it in the gcc-6 repo (152 has gcc6 patches), have build tomcat-8, uses eclipse, have rebuilt illumos-gate so it should be fine.
[14:59:31] <jollyd> used eclipse
[15:01:38] <alp_> what components do use gcc-4 now?
[15:02:04] <jollyd> illumos-gcc and gcc49
[15:02:10] <alp_> OK
[15:02:28] <jollyd> https://pastebin.ca/3969466
[15:02:34] <jollyd> I ran pkgrepo verify
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[15:03:14] <jollyd> maybe I should republish X-incorporation and service/cluster/service-hacluster?
[15:03:17] <alp_> I hope, we'll be able to use gcc-6 or gcc-7 instead of illumos-gcc in the end of year and gcc 3 and gcc-49 perhaps could be dropped in 2018.10
[15:04:47] <alp_> don't know
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[15:07:08] <jollyd> I can provide builds of illumos-gate with gcc6 for people who like to live on the edge
[15:07:09] <alp_> gcc 3 likely can be dropped just now :)
[15:08:17] <alp_> I suppose, it's more about 'looking for 100% troubles' than 'living on the edge' in the current state
[15:08:44] <alp_> but, it's for people to decide :)
[15:09:28] <jollyd> well in my case for a media center or a dev laptop the risk does not matter much
[15:09:44] <jollyd> so I am happy to look for trouble if it can help find issues
[15:10:28] <jollyd> of course issues may arise with more server-centric hw
[15:13:08] <jollyd> people happily serve as beta-testers with Ubuntu releases, we need to find people with the same level of masochism :P
[15:15:44] <jollyd> alp_: cluster/service-hacluster does not seem to clobber well
[15:15:55] <jollyd> so it was not republished
[15:17:04] <alp_> yes, it's fragile
[15:22:26] <jollyd> I have class soon, will be back in 4h
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[19:48:01] <leoric> alarcher: have you published slim_source ?
[19:51:52] <leoric> alarcher: https://pastebin.com/M9CHD4YY
[19:52:05] <leoric> list of packages, which were not updated to gcc-6 version
[19:52:41] <leoric> note network/ssh-askpass , network/ssh-askpass/zenity and parts of slim_install
[19:53:52] <alarcher> leoric: most of the packages list are deprecated or have not been republished
[19:54:49] <leoric> it's worth looking at ssh-askpass and packages from caiman
[19:56:04] <alarcher> slim_source failed apparently
[19:58:45] <alarcher> missing dependency apparently
[19:58:50] <leoric> what exactly?
[19:59:18] <leoric> last time I've checked it built fine with gcc-6
[19:59:57] <leoric> and I'm going to strip it a bit more...
[20:01:15] <alarcher> not found
[20:02:48] <alarcher> instzones_api.h missing as well
[20:02:49] <richlowe> the bootlog.h I know of is part of wanboot
[20:03:12] <richlowe> instzones is an 'internal' illumos package, you probably missed from REQUIRED_PACKAGES or whatever.
[20:03:15] <alarcher> system/library/install
[20:03:28] <alarcher> seems missing on the system
[20:03:31] <richlowe> system/library/install/libinstzones
[20:03:43] <richlowe> and wanboot-internal
[20:03:47] <richlowe> (or wanboot/internal)
[20:03:49] <richlowe> one of those
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[20:18:07] <alarcher> richlowe: thank you! these were the missing deps, there was no REQUIRED_PACKAGES in this component (yet)
[20:18:35] <alarcher> maybe that's the reason => gmake: *** No rule to make target 'REQUIRED_PACKAGES'.  Stop.
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[20:21:02] <alarcher> leoric: published
[20:21:18] <leoric> just rebooted to gcc-6 BE
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[20:22:03] <alarcher> leoric: all good?
[20:23:50] <leoric> seems so, however I'm a bit surprised, as I still use /hipster-encumbered
[20:24:09] <alarcher> I do as well
[20:24:36] <alarcher> I expected qt4 to choke
[20:24:54] <leoric> yes
[20:24:58] <leoric> and gstreamer
[20:25:01] <leoric> but vlc works
[20:25:03] <leoric> magic
[20:25:08] <alarcher> yup
[20:25:58] <leoric> alarcher: announce public testing
[20:26:01] <alarcher> leoric: even my good old paraview compiled 2 years ago runs
[20:26:12] <alarcher> o'right
[20:26:57] <alarcher> leoric: what should we tell people who have a local userland published?
[20:27:14] <leoric> unset it :)
[20:27:18] <alarcher> hi hi
[20:27:52] <richlowe> set-publisher -d until you've rebuilt too?
[20:28:29] <alarcher> do we recommend beadm create, beadm mount, and pkg -R /path/to , or plain pkg update ?
[20:28:41] <leoric> no, new be and manual update
[20:28:53] <richlowe> probably didn't change anything to force a new BE
[20:28:53] <leoric> I mean , the first
[20:29:01] <richlowe> though the defaults would give you a backup BE I think
[20:29:31] <leoric> better men to do it consciously
[20:29:57] <richlowe> well, for people who read your email or whatever, sure
[20:30:01] <richlowe> but people never do
[20:30:11] <richlowe> they'll just be slightly less aware they're safe
[20:31:09] <leoric> alarcher: do you publish userland-incorporation to /gcc-6
[20:31:52] <leoric> (at least this workstation has it uninstalled, so I forgot  about it)
[20:32:20] <leoric> or do we just recommend to relax entire and uninstall userland-incorporation?
[20:32:48] <leoric> (sane choice for dev pc)
[20:33:13] <alarcher> I have no userland-incorporation published
[20:33:28] <alarcher> maybe easier than asking people to remove it?
[20:34:22] <richlowe> ... for testing, or in general?
[20:34:32] <alarcher> for the testing
[20:34:35] <richlowe> whew
[20:34:45] <alarcher> if we want to reach more people it should be easy
[20:35:03] <leoric> alarcher: likely
[20:36:51] <alarcher> leoric: so I will publish incorporation then
[20:38:47] <leoric> as you wish
[20:39:14] <alarcher> pkg://userland/consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0 dot 5.11,5.11-2017.1.0.10430:20180207T193236Z
[20:39:14] <alarcher> PUBLISHED
[20:49:47] <leoric> well, it seems removing wanboot wouldn't be a big problem , but of course will be a cross-consolidation flag day
[20:59:19] <alarcher> leoric: I sent a draft to you
[21:02:31] <leoric> seems OK
[21:03:02] <leoric> I don't see necessity to disable openindiana.org repository, but this shouldn't do harm
[21:07:54] <alarcher> leoric: it was just to avoid any possible weird border effect or temptation to reorder the publishers
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[21:55:16] <wacki> alarcher: I have just updated one of my dl360g7 with the gcc-6.4.0 built repository. Everything went smoothly.
[21:56:17] <wacki> But I cannot install build-essential now.
[21:56:56] <wacki> pkg install: No matching version of metapackages/build-essential can be installed:
[21:56:56] <wacki>   Reject:  pkg://userland/metapackages/build-essential at 1 dot 0-2017.1.0.9:20180120T033345Z
[21:57:27] <wacki> Shall I post more details?
[21:58:19] <wacki> (culprit is sunstudio)
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[22:12:09] <alarcher-bis> wiedi: thank you, could you try again in 2-3min?
[22:12:57] <wiedi> was that for wacki? :D
[22:15:39] <alarcher-bis> wiedi: indeed :)
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[22:17:10] <alarcher-bis> wacki: so again "thank you, could you try again [in 2-3min] now?" :)
[22:30:06] <wacki> Sorry, was afk
[22:30:24] <wacki> Installing now
[22:30:45] <alarcher-bis> no pb, I republished all the stuff in osol/
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[22:31:21] <wacki> No, took longer but same error message
[22:32:28] <wacki> Correction: new error message is longer now, will post details
[22:33:28] <wacki> https://paste.ec/paste/+R15nKqS#9B9teOHDJWHAGZEgE3BAF8TcJriO1SgFEyhy97-RwWU
[22:35:40] <alarcher-bis> wacki: not sure where the library/c++/sunpro comes from
[22:35:50] <richlowe> Yeah, I was about to ask
[22:36:06] <alarcher-bis> eventually if the package doesnot exist as a component you can renable openindiana.org
[22:36:22] <richlowe> I'd also question studio being 'build-essential'
[22:38:09] <richlowe> alarcher-bis: a regular 'openindiana.org' doesn't have that package, either
[22:38:18] <richlowe> it was probably one that was send/recv'd all the way back from pre-history
[22:39:21] <richlowe> actually, maybe it does and I can't spell :)
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[22:39:55] <richlowe> alarcher-bis: yeah, you could fake one from the studio deliverables, if you had to.
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[22:45:53] <wacki> Need to go to bed now. Good night
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[22:52:37] <alarcher-bis> richlowe: since the branch version is 2013.0.0.0 the component was never republished so that should be an import from  opensolaris.org
[22:53:00] <alarcher-bis> we should drop sunstudio from build-essential anyway
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[23:41:22] <jollyd> leoric: looks like library/c++/sunpro is a dependency "require" to firefox, is it reasonable?
[23:47:07] <jollyd> looks like I need to publish it to gcc-6 or not disable openindiana.org
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