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[02:38:44] <oibot> Project illumos-gate build #5105: SUCCESS in 1 hr 33 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/5105/
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[08:22:25] <Agnar> moin
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[09:58:02] <xenol> moin Agnar
[09:58:05] <xenol> Agnar: are you coming to fosdem?
[10:01:53] <Agnar> xenol: unfortunately not...
[10:02:14] <Agnar> xenol: will be in paris the week and return on the weekend
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[10:46:30] <alp_> wow
[10:46:31] <alp_> wow
[10:46:32] <alp_> wow
[10:46:37] <alp_> this shit is somehow working
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[10:46:49] <alp_> on-battery: yes
[10:47:09] <alp_> time to empty: 4.8 hours
[10:47:22] <alp_> on-battery: no
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[11:18:29] <Agnar> alp_: mate battery applet?
[11:18:47] <alp_> so far just upower
[11:19:06] <Agnar> ok, but good news
[11:19:20] <alp_> will need a bit more testing one I polish it a bit
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[11:23:33] <Agnar> Dependency analysis is unable to determine exact cause.
[11:23:33] <Agnar> Try specifying expected results to obtain more detailed error messages.
[11:23:40] <Agnar> IPS. I love your error messages
[11:23:43] <Agnar> *sigh*
[11:41:22] <jimklimov> well, you have a pretty verbose string to look for in the sources ;)
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[11:51:33] <alp_> does somebody know about systemd/dbus interaction?
[11:51:49] <alp_> I mean, can dbus request launch systemd service?
[11:52:02] <alp_> request for interface, not explicit one
[11:53:41] <alp_> yes... service is started when it's first accessed
[11:54:18] <alp_> likely just have to start it unconditionally
[11:54:26] <Agnar> jimklimov: hehe
[11:57:26] <alp_> do I understand correctly that smf doesn't have 'daemonize' option?
[11:58:19] <jimklimov> what behavior do you mean?
[11:59:03] <alp_> I want a program to be run in background
[11:59:19] <alp_> efficiently daemonize() ; exec()
[11:59:45] <denk> bsd has a daemon(1) tool for this
[12:00:20] <jimklimov> > Determine which service model the script needs. If the script does some work and then exits without starting any long running processes, it is most likely a transient service. If the script starts up a long running daemon and then exits, then it is a contract service. See the Duration section in the svc.startd(1M) man page for more information about service models.
[12:00:42] <jimklimov> full list at e.g. https://github.com/livinginthepast/smf/blob/master/README.md#duration
[12:01:17] <denk> err, daemon(8)
[12:01:57] <denk> just port it
[12:05:10] <jimklimov> why not have the "start" method background the program with the "contract" duration? exec="/my/prog &" might work ?
[12:05:18] <jimklimov> https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/816-5166/svc.startd-1m/index.html
[12:05:41] <jimklimov> maybe the most relevant (online) reference beside our own manpages
[12:05:44] <jimklimov> :)
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[12:21:58] <alp_> the issue is that it seems systemd can startup dbus services as they are requested automagically, but we need to have global startup scripts
[12:23:05] <jimklimov> well, given that SMF (AFAIK) has no message-queue interface yet, only the CLI (and libs behind it)...
[12:24:32] <alp_> I wonder how it works on FreeBSD
[12:33:17] <jimklimov> it might change if other "restarters" get implemented, eg. an inetd-lookalike
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[14:57:08] <alp_> it seems mate-power-manager works somehow
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[15:57:07] <alp_> testing mate-power-manager and upower in VM... It shows battery state, but it seems to be all that it can do.
[15:57:40] <alp_> perhaps, should do it on real HW
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[16:17:06] <alp_> at least upower can't power down system
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[16:22:50] <xenol> that's a good way how to keep people using OI all the time!
[16:23:11] <xenol> literally
[16:25:47] <Agnar> ;)
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