[01:04:38] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@5ec3e71b.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Quit: andy_js) [01:35:32] *** xenol <xenol!~xenol@2001:470:5bc7:1a6c::dead:beef> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [01:43:59] *** xenol <xenol!~xenol@2001:470:5bc7:1a6c::dead:beef> has joined #oi-dev [02:07:57] *** Alasdairrr <Alasdairrr!~alasdair@185.194.88.66> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:14:32] *** v_a_b1 <v_a_b1!~volker@p57A27FA1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #oi-dev [02:16:17] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p57A27EC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [02:35:38] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@hqdc-proxy-mwg08-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [02:35:56] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@hqdc-proxy-mwg08-o.oracle.com> has joined #oi-dev [02:35:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc [02:38:44] <oibot> Project illumos-gate build #5105: SUCCESS in 1 hr 33 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/5105/ [03:03:29] *** Alasdairrr <Alasdairrr!~alasdair@185.194.88.66> has joined #oi-dev [03:03:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alasdairrr [06:09:21] *** MarcelT <MarcelT!~marcel@tyhog-gua01a-216.cronon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [06:23:59] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@188.232.89.90> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [06:24:18] *** mnowak__ <mnowak__!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has joined #oi-dev [06:27:02] *** MarcelT <MarcelT!~marcel@tyhog-gua01a-216.cronon.net> has joined #oi-dev [08:22:25] <Agnar> moin [08:34:27] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2001:8e0:2040:ef01:c0ff:7b6c:179f:1c75> has joined #oi-dev [08:48:32] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@55-114-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome) [08:59:35] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@dynamic-109-81-208-123.ipv4.broadband.iol.cz> has joined #oi-dev [09:49:05] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!mnowak_@nat/suse/x-maameuirfdlihpcf> has joined #oi-dev [09:51:34] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@91-107-157-37.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev [09:58:02] <xenol> moin Agnar [09:58:05] <xenol> Agnar: are you coming to fosdem? [10:01:53] <Agnar> xenol: unfortunately not... [10:02:14] <Agnar> xenol: will be in paris the week and return on the weekend [10:11:38] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [10:26:08] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net> has joined #oi-dev [10:27:59] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc92716-cmbg20-2-0-cust138.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has joined #oi-dev [10:36:50] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [10:46:30] <alp_> wow [10:46:31] <alp_> wow [10:46:32] <alp_> wow [10:46:37] <alp_> this shit is somehow working [10:46:45] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@169-13-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [10:46:49] <alp_> on-battery: yes [10:47:09] <alp_> time to empty: 4.8 hours [10:47:22] <alp_> on-battery: no [10:50:56] *** mnowak__ <mnowak__!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [10:57:07] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has joined #oi-dev [11:18:29] <Agnar> alp_: mate battery applet? [11:18:47] <alp_> so far just upower [11:19:06] <Agnar> ok, but good news [11:19:20] <alp_> will need a bit more testing one I polish it a bit [11:22:23] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@91-107-157-37.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome) [11:23:33] <Agnar> Dependency analysis is unable to determine exact cause. [11:23:33] <Agnar> Try specifying expected results to obtain more detailed error messages. [11:23:40] <Agnar> IPS. I love your error messages [11:23:43] <Agnar> *sigh* [11:41:22] <jimklimov> well, you have a pretty verbose string to look for in the sources ;) [11:50:56] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@185.39.197.205> has joined #oi-dev [11:51:33] <alp_> does somebody know about systemd/dbus interaction? [11:51:49] <alp_> I mean, can dbus request launch systemd service? [11:52:02] <alp_> request for interface, not explicit one [11:53:41] <alp_> yes... service is started when it's first accessed [11:54:18] <alp_> likely just have to start it unconditionally [11:54:26] <Agnar> jimklimov: hehe [11:57:26] <alp_> do I understand correctly that smf doesn't have 'daemonize' option? [11:58:19] <jimklimov> what behavior do you mean? [11:59:03] <alp_> I want a program to be run in background [11:59:19] <alp_> efficiently daemonize() ; exec() [11:59:45] <denk> bsd has a daemon(1) tool for this [12:00:20] <jimklimov> > Determine which service model the script needs. If the script does some work and then exits without starting any long running processes, it is most likely a transient service. If the script starts up a long running daemon and then exits, then it is a contract service. See the Duration section in the svc.startd(1M) man page for more information about service models. [12:00:42] <jimklimov> full list at e.g. https://github.com/livinginthepast/smf/blob/master/README.md#duration [12:01:17] <denk> err, daemon(8) [12:01:57] <denk> just port it [12:05:10] <jimklimov> why not have the "start" method background the program with the "contract" duration? exec="/my/prog &" might work ? [12:05:18] <jimklimov> https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/816-5166/svc.startd-1m/index.html [12:05:41] <jimklimov> maybe the most relevant (online) reference beside our own manpages [12:05:44] <jimklimov> :) [12:19:30] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [12:21:58] <alp_> the issue is that it seems systemd can startup dbus services as they are requested automagically, but we need to have global startup scripts [12:23:05] <jimklimov> well, given that SMF (AFAIK) has no message-queue interface yet, only the CLI (and libs behind it)... [12:24:32] <alp_> I wonder how it works on FreeBSD [12:33:17] <jimklimov> it might change if other "restarters" get implemented, eg. an inetd-lookalike [13:09:04] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [13:11:42] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net> has joined #oi-dev [13:11:47] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has joined #oi-dev [13:19:48] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@55-114-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev [14:05:14] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@55-114-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome) [14:31:28] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@90.191.114.55> has joined #oi-dev [14:44:31] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@97e506bb.skybroadband.com> has joined #oi-dev [14:57:08] <alp_> it seems mate-power-manager works somehow [15:00:53] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [15:07:26] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has joined #oi-dev [15:11:57] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:51:27] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has joined #oi-dev [15:57:07] <alp_> testing mate-power-manager and upower in VM... It shows battery state, but it seems to be all that it can do. [15:57:40] <alp_> perhaps, should do it on real HW [16:04:01] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [16:07:29] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has joined #oi-dev [16:14:52] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:17:06] <alp_> at least upower can't power down system [16:22:46] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has joined #oi-dev [16:22:50] <xenol> that's a good way how to keep people using OI all the time! 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