January 17, 2015 
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January 17, 2015 [00:06:38] *** teepee_ has joined #netbeans[00:08:51] *** teepee has quit IRC[00:08:52] *** teepee_ is now known as teepee[01:08:48] *** bbankes has joined #netbeans[02:39:51] *** teepee_ has joined #netbeans[02:41:49] *** teepee has quit IRC[02:45:17] *** teepee_ has quit IRC[02:47:52] *** teepee has joined #netbeans[03:05:35] *** sfisque has quit IRC[04:01:35] *** bbankes has quit IRC[04:05:27] *** teepee_ has joined #netbeans[04:07:37] *** saint-ron has quit IRC[04:08:03] *** teepee has quit IRC[04:08:04] *** teepee_ is now known as teepee[04:12:22] *** saint-ron has joined #netbeans[04:16:05] *** saint-ron has quit IRC[04:16:58] *** saint-ron has joined #netbeans[04:26:11] *** darkbasic has quit IRC[04:27:16] *** darkbasic has joined #netbeans[06:27:15] *** anant_lelesys has joined #netbeans[06:37:54] *** sfisque has joined #netbeans[07:18:44] *** mr_lou has joined #netbeans[07:49:44] *** sfisque has quit IRC[07:52:26] *** mr_lou has quit IRC[08:00:38] *** mr_lou has joined #netbeans[08:02:47] *** mr_lou has quit IRC[09:22:39] *** apprentice has joined #netbeans[11:43:36] *** anant_lelesys has quit IRC[12:47:57] *** Cenbe has quit IRC[13:06:41] *** teepee has quit IRC[13:07:38] *** teepee has joined #netbeans[13:59:23] *** doev has joined #netbeans[14:06:53] *** doev has quit IRC[14:13:51] *** patham9_ has joined #netbeans[14:17:46] <patham9_> Hi! I am one of the developers of the openNARS AGI project. Some days ago we switched to Maven. So far so good, everything works, except running a program in the IDE:[14:18:55] <patham9_> nbactions.xml allows the specification of , <exec.executable>, which is default "java". However it is unacceptable to rely on the existence of a "java console command" here. How can I tell it to use the same binary which is used for compiling here?[14:19:10] <patham9_> *binary folder[14:23:16] *** apprentice has quit IRC[14:25:55] <pdurbin> I wonder if setting JAVA_HOME would help.[14:29:40] <patham9_> this would also be just a hack, netbeans is well aware of the binary folder else it wouldnt able to compile at all. not being able to use the same folder like the configured JDK suggests to run maven projects is a lack of important basic functionality[14:30:26] <patham9_> with netbeans own project format this works of course, but we decided to switch to Maven due to dependency handling[14:31:22] <patham9_> (with the default format it not "only works", it is the default)[14:31:37] <pdurbin> we use maven and it works fine[14:32:14] <patham9_> i didn't claim it doesn't work, I just pointed out something problematic in netbeans, which makes project less portable when using maven instead of default netbeans projects[14:33:31] <patham9_> reyling on a native command is not good. Without maven this dependency on a native command does not exist[14:35:09] <pdurbin> we have nbactions.xml in .gitignore[14:39:52] <pdurbin> so we don't rely on whatever's in there[14:40:18] <patham9_> yes, I guess we will also do this for now, or we will switch back to ant for now in the hope that this inconvenience will not exist in future IDE versions. Just being able to starting up a freshly extracted netbeans, on whatever OS one works on, selecting the extracted JDK folder, and already having everything needed without needing to adjust paths and so on was something we valued a lot about netbeans so far[14:42:30] <patham9_> which spared us from a lot of distraction like "how can i run the project", or "it doesnt build, what can i do?" in our discussions[14:43:43] <pdurbin> I don't have this problem but I guess I don't understand why. I guess Netbeans picks the JDK I'm happy with.[14:44:41] <patham9_> no, its just the case that you only work with one jdk for example in which case it is likely that the native "java" command uses the same JDK like you configured for your projects[14:45:02] <patham9_> or the jdk version does not matter that much in your projects so that you didnt notice so far :)[14:45:42] <patham9_> (that the native "java" command uses another JRE or JDK directory than the one netbeans uses for compilation)[14:47:19] <pdurbin> well, I'm sorry for your pain. maybe you should file a bug: https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/[14:51:50] <patham9_> but to be fair, this is the first negative thing I noticed about Netbeans so far and I think also the positive ones are worth to mention: Altough I hesitated starting using Netbeans for our project in August, I think it was a great decision to do so, it raised the productivity of the entire team, so far there was not one single discussion about the IDE itself. Why? Because everything and all the tools we use just work as expected[14:52:19] <patham9_> (all the netbeans tools)[14:52:48] *** bbankes has joined #netbeans[14:52:59] <patham9_> or to keep it short: its an awesome IDE.[14:54:14] <pdurbin> I like it. I've been using Android Studio a bit, which is based on Intellij but Netbeans is more comfortable for me.[14:54:53] *** doev has joined #netbeans[15:03:38] <pdurbin> though Android Studio is nice too[15:10:10] <patham9_> I agree, but it relies on some native commands which makes it not an option for us (for example if you dont have a git in commandline or if you dont have a version new enough, git checkout in IntelliJ will just fail)[15:10:46] <patham9_> I value thos "one-box-works"-way of Netbeans a lot[15:10:48] <patham9_> *this[16:13:53] *** bbankes has quit IRC[16:15:39] *** doev has quit IRC[16:55:46] *** Cenbe has joined #netbeans[17:13:01] *** darkbasic_ has joined #netbeans[17:14:39] *** darkbasic has quit IRC[17:50:14] *** doev has joined #netbeans[17:50:52] *** RedShift has joined #netbeans[17:50:55] <RedShift> hi all[17:51:20] <patham9_> hi[17:51:22] <RedShift> how can I configure netbeans to put a newline between "function(args)" and the curly brace "{" in javascript?[17:51:37] <RedShift> that option seems to be missing compared to other languages[17:52:53] *** huhlig has quit IRC[18:01:00] *** Ad1 has joined #netbeans[18:23:48] *** sfisque has joined #netbeans[18:24:10] *** spidermonkdust has joined #netbeans[18:24:20] *** spidermonkdust has left #netbeans[18:32:18] *** huhlig has joined #netbeans[18:47:12] *** doev has quit IRC[20:22:50] *** contempt has quit IRC[20:24:52] *** contempt has joined #netbeans[20:41:45] *** teepee_ has joined #netbeans[20:44:17] *** teepee has quit IRC[20:44:17] *** teepee_ is now known as teepee[21:50:31] *** Smx has quit IRC[21:53:06] *** Smx has joined #netbeans[23:09:53] *** [cust] has quit IRC[23:19:16] *** Snake1130 has joined #netbeans[23:22:32] *** sfisque has quit IRC[23:31:57] *** RedShift has quit IRC[23:40:54] *** darkbasic has joined #netbeans[23:41:31] *** teepee has quit IRC[23:42:03] *** darkbasic_ has quit IRC[23:48:43] *** teepee has joined #netbeans