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[00:15:33] <bennylu> hi all, i creating a plugin extending java project, how can i remove a node (the source packages node) from the logical view? i want to add other node instaed of it..
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[15:04:26] <theresajayne> I am having a problem with netbeans and creating a new project
[15:04:59] <theresajayne> [ERROR]Failed to execute goal org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-archetype-plugin:2.0-alpha-4:generate (default-cli) on project standalone-pom: The defined artifact is not an archetype -> [Help 1]
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[15:08:37] <fasta> How can I tell Netbeans to be able to complete symbols again?
[15:09:07] <fasta> It worked fine the last time I used it, but now I have a new project and it appears that there is nothing in its index.
[15:17:23] <CaoYoussef> complete symbols as in ctrl+space?
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[15:23:05] <CaoYoussef> you might want to check if you have set your javadoc path properly in the library properties, if it's the JDK click on right click on Libraries -> Properties -> Manage Platforms, select the javadoc tab to set the path
[15:26:01] <theresajayne> anyone know if there is a fix to the bug with maven?
[15:26:26] <theresajayne> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=190033
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[19:14:04] <Tominator> hi
[19:14:11] <Tominator> i've got a very strange problem with netbeans
[19:15:03] <Tominator> any runnable class I want to run just throws a Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: de/unikl/cs/sep/skat/group10/server/MainServer
[19:15:59] <Tominator> how is that possible? i've executed clean&build and checked out a completely new copy of the repo but nothing seems to work...
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[19:33:24] <izzmo> Quick/easy question. In PHP, does anyone know how to setup definitions of methods so Netbeans can pick up the description and returns?
[19:34:10] <izzmo> (the comments before the method that is)
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[19:39:26] <Xeon06_> Hey all
[19:40:01] <Xeon06_> Is there any way to configure NetBeans to delete 4 spaces if I press backspace and there happens to be 4 spaces behind the cursor?
[19:40:10] <Xeon06_> I think caret was the right word
[19:40:55] <izzmo> With a macro
[19:41:11] <izzmo> not by default functionality unless you specifiy you want, say an indent, to be 4-spaces
[19:45:37] <Xeon06_> izzmo: That's exactly what I want
[19:45:50] <Xeon06_> But I want to be able to "backspace" it as a whole
[19:52:02] <izzmo> Well
[19:52:13] <izzmo> You should change from spaces to tabs in the options screen then
[19:52:26] <izzmo> If you keep using spaces, when using backspace, it will still only remove one character of whitepsace
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[19:59:14] <Xeon06_> Oh ok. Yeah, gotta use spaces.
[19:59:23] <Xeon06_> Guess I'll look into macros. Thanks.
[19:59:41] <jjj-m> Xeon06_: chances are you want to indent with tabs, and use spaces inline as needed. You can adjust your code formatting in Editor > Formatting
[20:00:17] <Xeon06_> jjj-m: It's actually the company's "policy" to do everything with spaces. But I'm used to tabs. so I was looking for a little comfort
[20:00:38] <Xeon06_> (and by the company I mean the place where I work)
[20:01:28] <jjj-m> Sounds like a bad policy. What's the proposed benefit?
[20:09:11] <Xeon06_> jjj-m: Consistency between text editors
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[20:09:35] <Xeon06_> You wouldn't believe the size of the debate over this everywhere
[20:10:13] <Xeon06_> Tabs aren't displayed the same in different editors. Some use 4 spaces, some 8, etc. As such, spaces are more reliable.
[20:10:20] <jjj-m> I can imagine. Wouldn't setting the tab indent be more consistent?
[20:11:01] <Xeon06_> jjj-m: Guess it hasn't occured to them. Plus things like the Git code viewer doesn't allow for setting the tab indent
[20:11:08] <jjj-m> Almost all editors these days come with editor settings that make it a moot point.
[20:11:20] <Xeon06_> And all their projects are already that way, so it's not like I'm coming in and changing all their stuff
[20:11:27] <Xeon06_> But yeah, I don't agree with it
[20:11:40] <jjj-m> Sounds frustrating for no reason. :)
[20:11:56] <Xeon06_> Yeah, well, I'll live I guess
[20:12:27] <jjj-m> If death my whitespace is something to be worried about, I'm screwed.
[20:12:33] <jjj-m> s/my/by
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[20:14:01] <Xeon06_> You can find traces of the battle all over the internet http://www.google.ca/search?q=spaces+vs+tabs
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[20:57:30] <izzmo> anyone use PHP NetBeans IDE here?
[21:03:22] <jjj-m> izzmo: aye
[21:04:49] <izzmo> Do you know how to do code commenting so when you want to use a method, it populates return, description and variable data?
[21:16:30] <izzmo> (guess that's a no?)
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[21:22:29] <CaoYoussef> izzmo, not sure what is used in PHP, but with Java you use javadoc style commenting
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[21:23:54] <CaoYoussef> izzmo, maybe this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHPDoc
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[21:52:56] <izzmo> CaoYoussef: thanks, I will try that
[22:02:24] <jjj> izzmo: it's phpDoc - and you do it by typing "/**ENTER" before a class or function name.
[22:02:33] <jjj> Where ENTER is the enter key
[22:03:44] <jjj> In my experience it does'n do everything, like @since and stuff. But it gets @param @return and @global
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[22:08:06] <izzmo> it has to be /** ?
[22:09:08] <izzmo> Wow.. everything works now.. jeez that's stupid, can't believe it was because I was missing a single asterisk
[22:09:21] <jjj> Yep. Double *
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[22:12:26] <jzaksh> hi, it looks like netbeans is scanning a folder that i told it not to scan
[22:13:06] <jzaksh> my project is ~/code/web5-jzacsh/ -- the folder to ignore is ~/code/web5-jzacsh/sites/default/files/ --- and ~/code/web5-jzacsh/sites/default is actually a symlink, the real default/ is in ~/code/conf/web5/default
[22:13:39] <jzaksh> i'm thinking, maybe, netbeans isn't properly igoniring ~/code/web5-jzacsh/sites/default/files because it is ocnfused by the symlink, but i'm not sure.
[22:14:12] <jzaksh> bottom line is scanning takes forever, and when i strace netbeans' proecess, i can see it looking at everything in ~/code/web5-jzacsh/sites/default/files/ (which is a massive multi-GB directory)
[22:14:49] <jzaksh> anyone have any thoughts/tips?
[22:15:26] <izzmo> is the tilde (~) part of your path?
[22:15:44] <jzaksh> izzmo: no, the config is using the absolute version of those paths ^
[22:15:56] <izzmo> Ah, well that's all I got then, sorry :(
[22:16:00] <jzaksh> also i've closed netbeans, and reopened it, to make sure it was starting the scan from scratch
[22:16:04] <jzaksh> :(
[22:17:34] <izzmo> On second thought, have you tried using relative paths?
[22:25:06] <jzaksh> izzmo: sorry, don't see anythign without hilights
[22:25:13] <jzaksh> izzmo: umm... no, i'm going by the interface... relative to what?
[22:25:26] <jzaksh> the interface in netbeans shows /home/jzacsh/code/web5....
[22:25:40] <jzaksh> and the .nbmeta/code-web5jzacsh/...properties file shows ../../code/web5
[22:25:44] <jzaksh> so i know they line up correctly'
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[22:26:00] <izzmo> Ah, well that's a good point. I got nothing :(  Never had this problem
[22:26:11] <jzaksh> because wheni change the end of the path in the properties file (by manually editing it) and then i open netbeans and look at the interface, hte interface has the correct absolute path
[22:26:16] <jzaksh> :'(
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[22:47:41] <jzaksh> wow
[22:47:46] <jzaksh> can't use netbeans :(
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