June 16, 2011  
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[00:15:51] <joshteam> Hey, I just grabbed 7 - but I can't create project from existing sources for some reason?
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[00:38:01] <opdynamiks> Hi there. that's certainly odd, I have been using 7 for a while with no problems creating project from existing sources (on PHP)
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[09:27:42] <Chris2011> Hi, is it possible to activate this feature in netbeans? "Structural Highlighting for braces" http://devexpress.com/Products/Visual_Studio_Add-in/Coding_Assistance/i/StructuralHighlightingInCSharp.gif
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[10:41:52] <Candle> Chris2011: I don't think that Netbeans has that particular feature. The only real use I can see for it is if your code has too many levels of indentation or your functions/methods are far too long (every method should fit onto one screen.)
[10:43:07] <Candle> Chris2011: Netbeans does have (at least for Java) code folding, which allows for blocks of code (methods, classes) to be collapsed to hide code that is irrelevent to the current task.
[10:43:15] <Chris2011> yeah but I find it useful, too see where is my closed brace from my if or from my function in the same level and not only on the side
[10:44:37] <Chris2011> this is only my opinion
[10:44:59] <Candle> I think that uising a tab-stop of 4 or 8 rather then 1 or 2 makes that a non-issue.
[10:45:49] <Candle> (and if your code uses spaces rather then tabs then you are screwed :p)
[10:46:39] <Chris2011> yeah but if you have a long class or long function or smth else and in the middle of the page you see a open brace and you have to look to the side to see where is the closed thing, only on color
[10:47:18] <Chris2011> and if netbeans has this feature, you can see ahhh a purple line, scroll, scroll ah here is the end, fine :) hope you understand what i mean :)
[10:47:44] <Candle> True. Perhaps adding the feature would only encourage people to write really long, unmantainable functinos.
[10:48:37] <Chris2011> and yes I use spaces instead of tabs, cause tabs can displayed differently in other programs or operatiing systems :)
[10:48:56] <Chris2011> and spaces are a Guideline in such languages.
[10:49:03] <Chris2011> afaik
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[10:49:24] <Chris2011> yeah I hope not that anyone will wrote looooooooooooooooooooong code xD
[10:49:31] <Chris2011> in only one function ^^
[10:50:04] <Candle> I think that's the point with tabs ~_~. Someone can use a tab-stop of 2 and someone else can use 8 without any silly VCS diffs :) Anyway. let's not go any further with that discussion. :)
[10:50:25] <Candle> Long functions are, and should be, discouraged.
[10:50:29] <Chris2011> yeah :)
[10:50:33] <Chris2011> I know
[10:50:36] <Chris2011> thats true
[10:50:52] <Candle> (The codebase I'm currently working on has a few 300+ line methods..)
[10:51:02] <Candle> er, 3000+
[10:51:07] <Chris2011> long methods are not a team player ^^
[10:51:43] <Candle> Yes, they discourage code-reuse and are hard to mantain because their specification is too broad.
[10:52:35] <Chris2011> yeah. I have a second question, do you have experiences with netbeans and php/js?
[10:53:08] <Candle> Personally? I try to avoid anything to do  with PHP. The JS portion, well, a little.
[10:54:05] <Chris2011> if you have a PHP project or maybe a web project with Java and you have a JS file and make smth wrong like code that has no side effect you see the symbol on the side, you know what i mean?
[10:55:00] <Candle> Not at all, sorry.
[10:55:19] <Chris2011> a yellow light bulb if you mouseover it you see more information
[10:55:28] <Chris2011> warnings, errors et.c
[10:55:30] <Chris2011> etc.
[10:56:37] <Chris2011> look at this little example
[10:56:39] <Chris2011> http://pastebin.com/wed5SvuR
[10:56:48] <Chris2011> if you write such code in your js file IN A PROJECT
[10:57:06] <Chris2011> you can see a little light bulb symbol on the left where the linenumbers are
[10:57:31] <Chris2011> and if you mouseover it you can see the info "this source has no sideeffect"
[10:59:54] <Chris2011> now you know or you see it?
[11:01:06] <Candle> I don't use JS in netbeans enough to really comment.
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[11:03:23] <Chris2011> ok :)
[11:09:20] <Chris2011> so time to go cYa
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[13:30:02] <Bostjan> hi, is it posible to have 2 rows in tab list
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[13:47:34] <horros> Bostjan: Nossir.
[13:47:58] <Bostjan> nossir?
[13:49:23] <horros> no sir, it is not possible.
[13:49:41] <Bostjan> :(
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[15:05:58] <LordDoskias> hello, i've added java-mail-1.4.3 to my library list ( i can see it when i browse project files) but then when i import javax.mail.*' netbeans says it cannot find the packages
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[15:25:36] <mrintegrity> hi all. I am using netbeans 7.0 on fedora15 and when creating a new project it is not possible to select a framework. The frameworks show up and have a checkbox but clicking it / pressing space has no affect. Can anyone help me to fix it?
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[15:35:10] <mrintegrity> I couldn't find any open bugs about it
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[15:44:00] <mrintegrity> Seems like I installed it with openjdk.. changing to sun jdk, hopefully that fixes it
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[16:01:20] <mrintegrity> yep, openjdk was the problem.
[16:01:36] <mrintegrity> Why is openjdk so buggy compared to sun-jdk (oracle)?
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[20:07:18] <joshteam> anyone know where Netbeans stores prefs/settings on OSx?
[20:07:28] <joshteam> I want a clean install of 7
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