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[00:07:04] <Firnen> Anyone have any idea why my brightness keys aren't working? (Manjaro Gnome dell xps 15 9560)
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[00:34:19] <Brutus> Hi, There is a normal and a minimal download available. the minimal has no additional software packages pre-installed. where is the list of those packages?
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[03:38:55] <[rg]> when using the manual partition editor, how can I select where on the disk I want to install the boatloader
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[10:21:43] <laurinneff> I'm using kdenlive (from the official repo) and need to speed up a video. The internet says there's a speed effect, but I can't find it in my installation
[10:21:52] <laurinneff> can someone here help?
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[10:30:31] <rhode> morning all
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[10:59:18] <rhode> Am i correct that Google Chrome is only available as a AUR at the moment ?
[10:59:32] <rhode> ....aside from any SNAP/AppImage/Flatpak
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[11:18:54] <laurinneff> yes, it's not in the repos
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[11:20:07] <rhode> laurinneff: okay, thank you
[11:22:08] <rhode> Damn - just caught myself (Again) looking into NEW HW
[11:23:06] <rhode> I think that i will soon have to make a poster to put in front of myself - you will NEVER really get into gaming again - Stop looking at new HW - You dont need it!
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[11:40:35] <Foxfir3_> rhode: only so much you do to give Tuxracer better framerate
[11:42:54] <rhode> Foxfir3_: Yeah
[11:43:03] <rhode> Foxfir3_: have been in this enless loop
[11:43:24] <rhode> Should I build a new rig - it would surely get me to game again......
[11:43:34] <rhode> Realities is - that i game VERY little
[11:44:06] <rhode> Then my reasoning comes to - if i had a machines with loads of CPU/RAM - i could Lab alot more in VM's
[11:44:34] <rhode> Truth it - i have not real need for labs - maybe 1 VM at a time - which can be done on any machine with 8GB
[11:45:06] <rhode> And if i really needed multilab for some reason - i could just spin it up in digital ocean or similar
[11:45:41] <rhode> But then we come to the realization that you/I dont need anything newer than a SandyBridge era machine with 8 GB
[11:45:58] <rhode> ....and that just to satisfy my gear lust :-)
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[11:59:45] <Foxfir3_> rhode: better to just look at gear, and then not buy It, realizing you never needed It.
[12:04:53] <Foxfir3_> rhode: well. its a classic. I have a the best w520 there is, so It would utterly pointless to buy anything new. And I keep repairing It. And a new laptop would just get me worse keyboard. As for gaming, I think It can be good in times of heavy stress, but apart from that Its a waste of time.
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[12:13:50] <rhode> Foxfir3_: very much agree
[12:14:19] <rhode> I have a T440P with 16GB - that i mostly use for remote consoling into other machines
[12:14:46] <rhode> and running browsers etc - its a 3rd gen i5 - and are pleanty fast for what i need
[12:15:34] <rhode> Its build like a tank. And aside from that i have my old gaming machine - that i should just retire
[12:15:38] <rhode> Dont really need it
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[12:23:38] <reject-aussieM79> I have never brought or used a graphics card before. I have been looking on the web but I just get more confused. Where is a good place to go to see a list of what make and model of cards that people actually use work well with linux? I don't care if the drivers are open source or not. just good perfomance and value
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[12:24:58] <rhode> reject-aussieM79: it depends on how NEW your kernel is. This again depends on which distro you are on
[12:25:16] <rhode> Rolling distroes are more up2date that e.g. Ubuntu
[12:25:36] <reject-aussieM79> just using stock manjaro kde
[12:25:51] <rhode> But any non-bleeding edge GTX of RX card should work fine
[12:28:01] <reject-aussieM79> So this should be fine? Gigabyte Radeon RX 570 https://www.pccasegear.com/products/39357/gigabyte-radeon-rx-570-gaming-4gb
[12:28:30] <rhode> It should be fine with most never kernels
[12:28:48] <rhode> Just google the specific card and linux
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[12:30:12] <reject-aussieM79> what I have found most confusing is that while most of the time people say to use amd. It seems from what I have read most people use nvidia. Is there a reason for that?
[12:31:04] <reject-aussieM79> rhode thank you for your adice by the way.
[12:31:37] <reject-aussieM79> *Advice
[12:32:04] <rhode> reject-aussieM79: its a matter of preference
[12:32:13] <rhode> Everyone have their opinion
[12:33:01] <rhode> The essential difference is: For Nvidia you need to use their propriatary drivers (if you want real performance), and AMD have the drivers in the kernel
[12:33:45] <rhode> this is why - if you choosed AMD bleeding edge cards, you might have to wait for the distro til update the drivers to support the card
[12:34:13] <reject-aussieM79> So nvidia gives better performance AMD is easier out of the box
[12:34:43] <rhode> On the opposite side, som people have strong feelings against Nvidias proprietary driver. But that a political stance, more than an effect of it working or not
[12:35:09] <rhode> They are equally easy to use
[12:35:14] <reject-aussieM79> May I ask what you use please?
[12:35:30] <rhode> I dont game much
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[12:35:38] <rhode> But i have an ancient GTX560ti
[12:36:08] <rhode> Basically - get the card you like, based on your preference and budget.
[12:36:36] <rhode> Just know that if you get bleeding edge card - you might have to wait for the updated drivers/kernel
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[12:40:39] <reject-aussieM79> I can not thank you enough you have given me more help than I've had in the last 12 months trying to find my way around this minefield. A friend gave me a inno3d nvidia gti9600 512mb I think?
[12:43:31] <reject-aussieM79> most of the time if I asked about it people would be to busy arguing about which distro is better and weather or not open source drivers are better.
[12:46:14] <reject-aussieM79> rhode: Anyway like I said thank you so very much you are a saint and goodbye
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[13:37:09] <yabobay> I just installed Manjaro w/ NetworkManager. When I connect to my WiFi, it works fine, but after a few seconds it doesn't. It's still listed as connected. The issue is definitely not on my WiFi.
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[13:45:31] <Byan> yabobay: what happens when it doesn't work? Do you still have an IP address?
[13:49:21] <yabobay> Byan: how do i check?
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[23:09:12] <zChris2> Hello, i installed Virtualbox through pacman at first but removed that and used the oracle script. Everything installed but now i want to uninstall installation made with oracle script but cant find anyway to do it. Trying to install vbox with pacman says that there are already fileso n the system so it cancel the installation. Any suggestions ?
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[23:13:07] <zChris2> ah just found that you can do uninstall on the installation script.
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