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[01:00:01] <viking60> Last update broke off during upgrade due to different permisions and my lap decided to save battery leving me with absolutely no networkmanager . On reboot the boot stops ..probably due to no working networkmanager. So here I am with no function manjaro on this lap...Windows works though :(
[01:00:59] <viking60> reeinstale networkmanager after chroot with systemrescuecd and changed kernel without luck
[01:01:14] <viking60> help?
[01:02:22] <viking60> I cannot get far enough to check anything with systemctl...
[01:02:31] <korealinux> chroot and finish update
[01:02:58] <korealinux> what does kernel have to do with it
[01:03:03] <viking60> done that
[01:03:35] <korealinux> what is the start error, search online for solutions
[01:03:48] <korealinux> if it is not a partial update problem then what is the problem?
[01:04:44] <korealinux> uninstall network manager maybe corrupt?
[01:04:51] <viking60> The problem is that loading networkmanager fails during and that the boot holds half finished hanging forever
[01:05:29] <viking60> Have reeinstalled would ubinstalling first help?
[01:06:09] <korealinux> if it's not running then there is obviously a problem
[01:06:21] <viking60> hence my request
[01:06:27] <korealinux> if it was due to power outage then corrupt file likely
[01:06:51] <korealinux> it's just steps, if one doesn't work go try something else
[01:07:23] <viking60> yeah I might reeinstall Manjaro
[01:08:02] <korealinux> i guess if you don't have patience to diagnose the actual problem
[01:08:27] <viking60> I wonder if the problem is the enabling NM via systemd
[01:08:40] <korealinux> sorry that wasn't meant for you, i'm annoyed at someone else right now
[01:08:41] <viking60> cant do that in chroot it seems
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[01:11:38] <viking60> OK reeinstall it is..
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[01:13:25] <korealinux> it's good time to think about backup schedule
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[01:14:01] <Velvet> speaking of
[01:14:02] <korealinux> i recommend timeshift
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[01:14:36] <Velvet> korealinux: what about backintime?
[01:14:45] <Velvet> (i have both)
[01:15:03] <viking60> will have a look at timeshift...and ..others
[01:15:04] <korealinux> backintime is for user files, timeshift is for system files
[01:15:11] <Velvet> hmm
[01:15:18] <korealinux> you can use timeshift for both but it's not recommended
[01:15:23] <Velvet> ok
[01:15:25] <Velvet> tyvm
[01:16:31] <korealinux> timeshift can restore a bootable system (saves grub config etc), backintime does not
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[01:27:16] <Velvet> tried to saved to 2nd onboard drive and it says i don't have permisiion
[01:27:22] <Velvet> :/
[01:28:34] <Velvet> and do i want rsync or btfs?
[01:28:45] <Velvet> btrfs*
[01:30:37] <korealinux> btrfs is for btrfs systems
[01:34:00] <korealinux> are you saving to a linux partition?
[01:34:24] <Velvet> formatted as ext4
[01:34:27] <Velvet> yes
[01:34:38] <Velvet> itsa 320gb drive
[01:34:50] <korealinux> did you already mount it?
[01:34:53] <Velvet> my OS is on a 512 ssd
[01:35:02] <Velvet> its mounted yes
[01:35:31] <korealinux> does it mount through fstab or did you just now mount it?
[01:35:48] <Velvet> i used automount at startup
[01:35:58] <korealinux> what is that?
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[01:37:05] <korealinux> is that a gui tool?
[01:37:09] <Velvet> yes
[01:37:21] <korealinux> what desktop?
[01:37:28] <Velvet> manjaro xfce
[01:38:33] <korealinux> ? thunar?
[01:39:01] <Velvet> yes
[01:39:26] <korealinux> what is the whisker menu entry name?
[01:39:33] <korealinux> for what you are mounting with
[01:39:49] <Velvet> also downloaded udiskie and gsmart control...and a few other disk utilities ...one allowed me to automount drives..\
[01:39:52] <korealinux> thunar does not have any automount options i know of
[01:40:00] <korealinux> on boot anyway
[01:40:07] <Velvet> i added it
[01:40:10] <korealinux> unmount the partition
[01:40:14] <Velvet> gnome based i think
[01:40:30] <Velvet> its not a partition
[01:40:30] <korealinux> what others?
[01:40:37] <Velvet> itsa full drive
[01:41:15] <Velvet> 512 ssd with main OS and 320 samsung laptop hdd 320gb
[01:41:18] <korealinux> is it partitioned?
[01:41:19] <Velvet> oops
[01:41:25] <Velvet> no
[01:41:42] <korealinux> oh no
[01:41:45] <Velvet> why do i need to partition an empty drive?
[01:42:35] <korealinux> so you can put files on it
[01:42:45] * Velvet is very confused
[01:43:10] <Velvet> i can access it...but backintime would write to it....timeshift would though
[01:43:26] <Velvet> gdi i can't type
[01:43:41] <Velvet> backintime won't write timeshift will
[01:44:09] <korealinux> oh you should have said that
[01:44:31] <Velvet> was doing all this as we speak
[01:44:33] <korealinux> timeshift is mounting it as root probably
[01:44:39] <Velvet> ok
[01:44:48] <Velvet> how do i not do that?
[01:44:56] <korealinux> i know it's mounting it as root if backintime can't write to it
[01:45:10] <Velvet> but root is owner...shouldn't that work?
[01:45:14] <korealinux> you have to mount it yourself, not allow timeshift to do it
[01:45:22] <Velvet> weird
[01:45:26] <korealinux> get out of timeshift
[01:45:31] <Velvet> did
[01:45:32] <korealinux> unmount the partition
[01:45:37] <Velvet> done
[01:46:00] <korealinux> now you have to create a fstab entry for it or use a gui tool to automount it
[01:46:30] <Velvet> but that's what i already had
[01:46:36] <Velvet> (gui tool)
[01:46:41] <korealinux> which tool is it
[01:46:43] <Velvet> its mounts fine
[01:47:00] <Velvet> just not from the app
[01:47:18] <Velvet> it mounts on startup already
[01:47:40] <Velvet> trying to recall
[01:48:10] <Velvet> udiskie i think
[01:48:25] <Velvet> allows thunar a menu option
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[01:50:21] <Velvet> i'm an idiot...nvm...there's a root option in whisker
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[01:54:19] <korealinux> udiskie helps mount partitions, it does not edit the fstab to boot the partitions on boot
[01:54:32] <korealinux> they are unmounted on boot until you click on it in thunar
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[01:56:45] <korealinux> you can let timeshift mount the partition as root and use backintime as root as well
[01:56:52] <korealinux> but it's not really the best way to use a storage partition
[01:56:59] <korealinux> since you have to be root to copy files to it
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[01:58:09] <Velvet> i assure you it mounts on startup
[01:58:24] <korealinux> linux users should be familiar with fstab https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/fstab#Usage
[01:58:32] <Velvet> not wrong
[01:58:40] <Velvet> i'm not though
[01:59:37] <korealinux> if you do not want to edit fstab manually, you can use gnome disks
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[01:59:54] <korealinux> gnome-disk-utility in repo
[02:00:15] <Velvet> yes...have that...also may have used it...my life is kinda.....unstable and my memory isn't awesome lately
[02:02:05] <korealinux> that's all you need then
[02:02:39] <Velvet> ok
[02:02:42] <Velvet> ty :)
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[02:04:46] <korealinux> but if backintime cannot write to the partition, it's mounting as root...
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[02:07:00] <korealinux> i think i'm missing something very simple
[02:09:08] <korealinux> i have to look at your fstab to know what is really going on
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[02:09:20] <korealinux> otherwise we are just guessing
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[02:10:57] <korealinux> but it comes down to if backintime root works but non-root does not, the partition is mounted as root
[02:11:44] <korealinux> that means timeshift mounted the partition because fstab was edited while superuser
[02:11:52] <korealinux> er no tha'ts wrong
[02:12:47] <Velvet> will a simple command tell you?...i can copypasta?
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[02:14:11] <korealinux> yes it's just a config file
[02:14:16] <korealinux> cat /etc/fstab
[02:14:25] <korealinux> just give me the line with the 2nd drive
[02:14:34] <korealinux> you should know it by its mount point
[02:15:51] <korealinux> `df` to check the partition number if you are not sure
[02:16:39] <Velvet> i'll pm
[02:24:44] <korealinux> you could have just said it was luks system, that is extra layer
[02:25:46] <Velvet> doesn't know what she doesn't know....I wasn't aware that might affect it...imma newb, kinda
[02:28:47] <Velvet> only been running this acouple months so far
[02:28:54] <korealinux> wait wait wait
[02:28:56] <korealinux> it's in mnt
[02:29:05] <korealinux> you created this directory yourself
[02:29:19] <korealinux> i'm thinking of /run/media
[02:29:41] <Velvet> used gnome-disk utility
[02:29:48] <korealinux> you have to chown the mount point to your user
[02:32:00] <Velvet> how?
[02:33:32] <korealinux> do you want the easy way or the hard way?
[02:36:00] <Velvet> both?
[02:37:28] <korealinux> sudo chown-R $USER: <mount point>
[02:37:35] <korealinux> nope type
[02:37:36] <korealinux> don't
[02:37:37] <korealinux> sorry
[02:37:41] <korealinux> typo
[02:37:57] <korealinux> sudo chown -R $USER: <mountpoint>
[02:38:04] <korealinux> no nono
[02:38:05] <korealinux> sorry
[02:38:07] <korealinux> don't
[02:38:09] <korealinux> wow
[02:38:21] <korealinux> i hope you didn't do that
[02:38:28] <gehidore> sad
[02:38:44] <korealinux> sudo chown $USER: <mountpoint>
[02:38:48] <korealinux> the -R is bad
[02:38:50] <korealinux> it's recursive
[02:38:57] <korealinux> i was using it for something else
[02:39:10] <korealinux> i know that could have been a disaster
[02:39:34] <korealinux> that's the easy way
[02:39:58] <korealinux> the hard way is well run thunar as root
[02:40:15] <Velvet> hehe...you sound like me
[02:40:15] <Velvet> for mountpoint...doi need the actual volume id?
[02:40:22] <Velvet> i d/c'd...lol no worries
[02:40:26] <korealinux> and right click the partition and things
[02:41:53] <korealinux> `ll /mnt`
[02:42:01] <korealinux> to confirm the owner is now you
[02:42:11] <korealinux> for that mount point
[02:42:36] <korealinux> volume id has nothing to do with this
[02:42:45] <korealinux> it's the location in /mnt/<name>
[02:42:51] <korealinux> the directory name
[02:43:25] <Velvet> oh..i see...i think
[02:44:01] <korealinux> the directory has to be owned by you if backintime wants create files in it
[02:53:14] <korealinux> also you can save files to that directory through other programs
[02:53:32] <korealinux> you could actually just chown the backintime directory inside the directory
[02:53:39] <korealinux> and that would be fine too
[02:54:29] <korealinux> but if you ran backintime as root, some of the other the subdirectries might be owned by root too
[02:56:32] <korealinux> so i guess not so easy after all
[02:57:02] <Velvet> >.<
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[03:22:24] <korealinux> i don't really work with external linux mounts daily
[03:22:38] <korealinux> i set up backintime and just forgot about it
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[03:27:19] <korealinux> i'm so used to my ntfs mounts that are owned by user
[03:27:29] <korealinux> i forget everything outside /home is owned by root
[03:28:05] <korealinux> obviously, but the external mounts too
[03:30:31] <korealinux> basically my ntfs mounts are an extension of my /home, so i don't ever think about permissions
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[03:33:38] <korealinux> ownership not permissions, you can't change permissions on the fly on ntfs mounts
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[03:45:18] <korealinux> so basically everything i said about fstab and luks was me fumbling for an answer
[03:45:32] <korealinux> it was all to do with ownship of that mount directory
[03:47:21] <korealinux> it should have been 2 second solution, for anyone who uses linux mounts daily
[03:47:45] <Velvet> aww
[03:47:48] <korealinux> except you got me to answer and wasted your time, so sorry
[03:49:01] <Velvet> on the contrary, you've always been exceedingly helpful :)
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[03:50:10] <korealinux> ^_^;;
[03:50:36] * Velvet hugs :3
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[07:40:48] <probo> hello
[07:41:09] <probo> i have small problem with language settings
[07:41:47] <probo> everything its in my national language without this
[07:41:50] <probo> https://imgur.com/u2uASKm
[07:42:49] <probo> here is still english
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[07:44:33] <probo> who can help?
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[08:49:43] <gour> PMunch: morning, are you the one working on wxnim?
[08:52:09] <PMunch> gour, indeed I am :)
[08:52:35] <PMunch> Well, working on it might be an exageration. But I'm the one who maintains it
[09:03:02] <PMunch> gour, how so?
[09:03:22] <gour> PMunch: nice to see people interested in nim/gui ;) is wxnim usable for real-world apps? i do not like browser-based guis and consider that nim could be a powerful choice for writing desktop apps...one of the alternatives i'm considering is racket having gui dsl out-of-the-box, while e.g. julia mostly has gtk only
[09:04:44] <PMunch> Well WxWidgets is tried and tested, and wxnim is at its core just a wrapper around WxWidgets
[09:04:51] * gour migrated from debian/gnome to manjaro/kde two days ago...maybe the best linux combo i used ever
[09:05:17] <PMunch> The GUI DSL that I build on top of that just rewrites to the actual WxWidgets calls, so it should all work well
[09:05:46] <gour> PMunch: yeah, i like wxwidget's cpncept, being mature, native look etc...how complete are the bindings?
[09:06:30] <PMunch> They are automatically generated from the WxWidgets .h files, so they should be complete. But note that I haven't actually tested every single call, so there might be some bugs there
[09:08:12] <PMunch> I'm not aware of any large projects using wxnim though, so it's a bit of uncharted territory. But you're welcome to seek help over in #nim :)
[09:08:25] <PMunch> (Also a great resource to learn the language itself)
[09:09:04] <gour> PMunch: ok. do you consider wxnim as best gui option for nim atm?
[09:09:58] <PMunch> Depends on your definition for best I guess. But for native looking, cross-platform applications I'd say it's probably the best.
[09:10:33] <gour> PMunch: thanks and thank you for taking care about wxnim!
[09:10:43] <PMunch> There is also NiGui: https://github.com/trustable-code/NiGui which is pretty nice. Essentially the same concept as wxWidgets, but entirely written in Nim. It is much lighter in features though
[09:11:49] <PMunch> I've been saying for years though that I should write my own toolkit for this.. But solving some of these problems in a satisfactory way turns out to be pretty hard :P
[09:12:09] <PMunch> Here are some more GUI alternatives by the way: https://nimble.directory/search?query=gui
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[11:58:57] <Basiktut> hello guys is there a option for changing mirrors for AUR packages or they are at one location?
[11:59:03] <Basiktut> in pamac
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[14:47:18] <bretzel> Uh ... Hi guys, fish is the fdefault shell ( after chsh -s /usr/bin/shell - "shell shanged" , re-login : no : still on bash ^^ ?
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[15:34:59] <mileon> hello
[15:36:10] <mileon> i need help. i would make my own manjaro iso with a other language as default on boot. where can i search to solve my problem?
[15:37:18] <mileon> the iso-profiles package is installed and git is cloned
[15:37:36] <mileon> git manjaro profiles...
[15:39:35] <mileon> i have read "https://wiki.manjaro.org/Build_Manjaro_ISOs_with_buildiso". but i didnt find anything about settings at boot
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[16:47:13] <JohnML> Is that part of Calamaris-installer ( its so idiotic to configure ) https://i.imgur.com/rhurCDv.png
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[16:48:08] <onv0y> hey i installed manjaro unity and if someone told me how to update it ill give you a hug
[16:48:42] <onv0y> i regenerated the mirrorrs with pacman-mirrors -g
[16:48:46] <onv0y> but i cant actually update
[16:50:57] <yutayu> JohnML, yes or not
[16:51:23] <onv0y> error: failed retrieving file 'Unity-for-Arch.db' from dl.dropbox.com : The requested URL returned error: 404
[16:51:24] <onv0y> error: failed to update Unity-for-Arch (unexpected error)
[16:51:26] <onv0y> error: failed retrieving file 'Unity-for-Arch-Extra.db' from dl.dropbox.com : The requested URL returned error: 404
[16:51:28] <onv0y> error: failed to update Unity-for-Arch-Extra (unexpected error)
[16:51:30] <onv0y> :: Some packages should be upgraded first...
[16:51:32] <onv0y> error: failed to prepare transaction (could not find database)
[16:51:34] <onv0y> :: Starting full system upgrade...
[16:51:36] <onv0y> :: Replace ca-certificates-cacert with core/ca-certificates? [Y/n] ^C
[16:51:38] <onv0y> Interrupt signal received
[16:51:40] <onv0y> ??????
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[17:01:01] <JohnML> yutayu, ... thats the question: is it Calamaris or is not calamaris???
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[17:03:32] <yutayu> JohnML, after this screen , manjaro live runs.
[17:03:55] <yutayu> and run installer , I think this installer is calamaris.
[17:04:22] <yutayu> then , that screen shot is only live cd's first screen.
[17:06:36] <JohnML> yutayu, if you configure german language and keyboard it allways If i chose german language what keyboard do i use???jumps to install afterwards ... really nonsense!
[17:08:06] <JohnML> my sentence is somehow corrupt, forget it :-)
[17:08:13] <yutayu> okok :)
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[17:26:20] <mileon> how can i change the default language of the the manjaro iso?
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[19:52:59] <dmanthing> So the (not very nice) folks from arch irc sent me here....
[19:53:11] <dmanthing> Looking for help with creating a pkg for AUR
[19:54:27] <LinuxReborn> if your on arch idk why they would just up and send you here LOL did you forget to RTFM :P gotta love those guys
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[19:55:47] <dmanthing> Not on arch, I am on Manjaro, but since it is arch based I asked there about creating a AUR pkg for my app...
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[20:45:45] <bomex> hi
[20:46:13] <bomex> Manjaro is the best operating system ever!
[20:48:04] <bomex> and KDE Plasma is the best desktop environment
[20:48:47] <bomex> I'm switching to Manjaro from Windows 10 after testing it for 1 week
[20:49:38] <bomex> I just don't know if Manjaro has any support for the gamig platform Origin
[20:49:40] <bomex> ???
[20:50:09] <bomex> I don't wanna lose FIFA 20
[20:50:28] <bomex> anyone knows?
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[20:57:39] <Velvet> steam works fine...skyrim works..dunno about fifa
[20:59:38] <bomex> FIFA is only available on Origin
[21:00:10] <bomex> but I can't find any search hit that explains this
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[21:01:48] <bomex> is there any AUR repo for Origin?
[21:03:02] <Velvet> yes
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[21:03:36] <Velvet> owait...different thing..same name
[21:03:54] <jonan> hey guys, i just installed video-nvidia-440xx with mhwd, and it's sayin with inxi -G that my driver is N/A
[21:04:04] <jonan> im only in a tty, seems to have gone awry
[21:04:19] <jonan> i cant startx, and also lsmod shows no nvidia in the list
[21:04:43] <jonan> does anyone have any suggestions?
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[21:09:44] <d42> jonan: what card?
[21:09:50] <jonan> gtx 1080
[21:10:02] <jonan> i had the proprietary driver installed before migrating my ssd to another workstatin
[21:10:26] <jonan> of course it fell back onto nouveau after the move, bbut im trying to setup nonfree again
[21:10:37] <jonan> not so seamless at the minute :D
[21:11:01] <d42> you could paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere :v
[21:11:43] <jonan> well the only thing it says thats relevent is "failed to initialize the nvidia kernel module"
[21:11:52] <jonan> lsmod confirms it
[21:12:10] <jonan> i did have that, and i even had a path for it, but when i tried to modprobe nvidia it would fail saying it's an incorrect argument
[21:14:17] <d42> dmesg?
[21:15:02] <jonan> didnt have anything useful or related to the gpu
[21:15:14] <jonan> my guess is because the kernel wasnt really aware what to do with it :D
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[21:29:02] <bomex> at Manjaro installation if I have only integrated graphics of my i7-7500U processor, I choose the Free graphics driver, right?
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[21:37:54] <jonan> for some reason im not able to modprobe nvidia after installing the drivers iwth mhwd
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[21:53:26] <Velvet> bomex do you have an mx140 nvidia thingie?....is so...i use proprietary...not open source
[21:53:40] <Velvet> if so*
[21:53:56] <Velvet> thingie = gpu
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