December 5, 2019 
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December 5, 2019 [00:04:37] *** Spiro <Spiro!~Spiro@c-98-194-50-107.hsd1.tx.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:06:25] *** Spiro <Spiro!~Spiro@c-98-194-50-107.hsd1.tx.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:08:19] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@218-173-52-176.dynamic-ip.hinet.net> has joined #manjaro[00:18:09] *** Julius_Captain <Julius_Captain!~Julius_Ca@54020778.dsl.pool.telekom.hu> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)[00:20:50] *** _thelion_ <_thelion_!~matthias@194-166-56-34.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.6)[00:26:19] *** ThatOneSeong <ThatOneSeong!~thatonese@2601:86:102:6f70::11be> has joined #manjaro[00:34:04] *** ThatOneSeong <ThatOneSeong!~thatonese@2601:86:102:6f70::11be> has quit IRC (Quit: Sayonara)[00:34:34] *** ThatOneSeong <ThatOneSeong!~thatonese@2601:86:102:6f70::11be> has joined #manjaro[00:40:37] <ThatOneSeong> Don't know who's around to answer but I could really use some help; am trying to install third-party NVIDIA DKMS modules for my third-party kernels (from other Arch repos, because the kernels in question don't provide prebuilt NVIDIA drivers). However, while all the kernels in question can build broadcom-wl-dkms just fine, both custom kernels fail when installing nvidia. The make.log doesn't provide any clear answer for this either. But[00:40:37] <ThatOneSeong> I could've sworn this worked before. How can I get this working so I can use my preferred custom kernels with the nonfree NVIDIA drivers?[00:41:24] *** QuantumToronto <QuantumToronto!~QuantumTo@p200300C32F02D1000201C866B181ACF1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:41:30] <HEX0> https://i.imgur.com/0slXnbR.png[00:47:37] <Velvet> lol[00:48:08] <Velvet> i thought i was gonna have to report you at first >.<[00:57:17] <HEX0> lol I love the internet[01:00:22] * Velvet downloads more RAM[01:04:42] *** mowcat <mowcat!~mowcat@cpc105070-sgyl40-2-0-cust722.18-2.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:16:03] *** spacewook <spacewook!~work@ip24-253-130-175.hr.hr.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[01:16:04] <ThatOneSeong> *welp*[01:16:37] *** ThatOneSeong <ThatOneSeong!~thatonese@2601:86:102:6f70::11be> has quit IRC (Quit: Sayonara)[01:18:12] *** Foxfir3 <Foxfir3!~Foxfir3@ip-5-186-115-90.cgn.fibianet.dk> has joined #manjaro[01:27:24] *** AudioRCA 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Anywhere.)[11:52:52] *** Leion <Leion!~Thunderbi@117.160.143.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leion)[11:58:24] *** Kevlar_Noir <Kevlar_Noir!~manjaro-u@73.70.197.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:01:08] *** Leion <Leion!~Thunderbi@117.160.143.138> has joined #manjaro[12:02:22] *** cvz <cvz!~cvz@h-231-78.A785.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #manjaro[12:03:02] <cvz> Hey, I am having some problems installing spotify. Using `pamac build spotify` and it just freezes with the error pamac_daemon_start_trans_run: assertion 'self != NULL' failed[12:07:44] *** Leion <Leion!~Thunderbi@117.160.143.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leion)[12:08:18] *** Leion <Leion!~Thunderbi@117.160.143.138> has joined #manjaro[12:09:30] *** adsworth <adsworth!~adsworth@p50971ad1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:09:41] *** jlebrech_ is now known as jlebrech[12:10:27] *** PoPpiLLs <PoPpiLLs!~PoPpiLLs@2602:306:cfb5:aaf0::48> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:10:53] *** Leion <Leion!~Thunderbi@117.160.143.138> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:20:15] *** LuvIsBad2TheBone <LuvIsBad2TheBone!~toni@unaffiliated/luvisbad2thebone> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[12:31:13] *** ToniGER <ToniGER!~toni@unaffiliated/luvisbad2thebone> has joined #manjaro[12:33:13] *** Kevlar_Noir <Kevlar_Noir!~manjaro-u@73.70.197.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[12:42:42] *** Julius_Captain <Julius_Captain!~Julius_Ca@54020778.dsl.pool.telekom.hu> has joined #manjaro[12:43:37] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@194.44.236.118> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:48:38] *** Julius_Captain <Julius_Captain!~Julius_Ca@54020778.dsl.pool.telekom.hu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[12:49:07] *** Julius_Captain <Julius_Captain!~Julius_Ca@91ECCA64.dsl.pool.telekom.hu> has joined #manjaro[12:57:26] <JohnML> cvz, try in terminal sudo pacman -S spotify[12:57:51] *** gour <gour!~gour@unaffiliated/gour> has joined #manjaro[12:58:08] <gour> morning[12:59:04] *** mowcat <mowcat!~mowcat@cpc105070-sgyl40-2-0-cust722.18-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[12:59:20] <cvz> JohnML: that was the first thing I tried, getting target not found: spotify[13:00:11] <gour> i'm considering to switch from gnome (debian sid) to kde and wonder what can i expect in regard to running 3rd party (non-open source) *.deb/.rpm pkgs on manjaro? (i need them for e.g. croatian e-identity software)[13:00:25] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@194.44.236.118> has joined #manjaro[13:01:09] <gour> it works nicely on sid (ehich is stable enough for me), but seems not to be the best choice for kde?[13:01:20] <korealinux> cvz: spotify is an AUR package, use trizen or yay[13:01:29] <korealinux> if pamac fails[13:01:47] <cvz> korealinux:Ok I will try that, thank you[13:03:14] <JohnML> tvz because its an AUR package pacman can't handle install yay first and then yey -S spotify[13:04:08] <JohnML> sorry yay!![13:06:06] <JohnML> korealinux, do you know how to tell thunar as root to show icon-view as default? -> Ctrl 2[13:06:33] <JohnML> because itsnever saved![13:07:26] *** service_error <service_error!~manjaro-u@103.59.179.98> has joined #manjaro[13:08:15] <JohnML> ... even if i first log in as root to configure thunar :-([13:09:23] <service_error> hello alturists, I'm trying to create a service which will auto start and run after system start. I do this sudo nano /lib/systemd/system/py3-kms.service then https://bpaste.net/show/7GEPW[13:09:25] <korealinux> it's a saved setting[13:09:43] *** makaveli7 <makaveli7!~makaveli7@unaffiliated/makaveli7> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[13:09:50] <korealinux> in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/thunar.xml[13:10:08] <service_error> after that i run sudo chmod 644 /lib/systemd/system/py3-kms.service sudo systemctl daemon-reload sudo systemctl enable py3-kms.service[13:10:09] <korealinux> <property name="last-view" type="string" value="ThunarDetailsView"/>[13:10:24] <service_error> but the service never starts at system start[13:10:25] *** reevan-s <reevan-s!~reevan-s@unaffiliated/reevan-s> has joined #manjaro[13:10:28] <korealinux> i don't know why it would not work for root[13:11:09] <JohnML> korealinux, thanks, i'll try that !![13:11:22] <service_error> but if I run manually in terminal /usr/bin/python3 /opt/py-kms-master/py-kms/pykms_Server.py 127.0.0.2 1688 --loglevel DEBUG --logfile ~/KMS_Log/pykms_logserver.log --logsize 2[13:11:26] <service_error> it works ![13:11:59] <service_error> how can I make the sevice run at start up? I'd really appreciate any help regarding this[13:12:19] *** nico_nico <nico_nico!~khais@arennes-653-1-304-95.w109-218.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[13:12:42] *** reevan-s <reevan-s!~reevan-s@unaffiliated/reevan-s> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:13:17] *** Julius_Captain <Julius_Captain!~Julius_Ca@91ECCA64.dsl.pool.telekom.hu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:14:07] <korealinux> you chmod a service on every boot?[13:14:15] <korealinux> what?[13:14:21] <korealinux> do not understand[13:15:00] <service_error> yes i did, sudo chmod 644 /lib/systemd/system/py3-kms.service[13:15:12] <korealinux> why?[13:15:48] <service_error> basically the process is like this, https://bpaste.net/show/6MTHW[13:16:10] *** JohnML <JohnML!~john1@ip-95-223-156-241.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:16:37] *** JohnML <JohnML!~john1@ip-95-223-156-241.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #manjaro[13:16:37] <korealinux> ok that is for creating the py3-kms.service[13:16:40] <korealinux> you do that one time only[13:16:58] <service_error> yes only one time[13:17:11] *** reevan-s <reevan-s!~reevan-s@unaffiliated/reevan-s> has joined #manjaro[13:17:38] <korealinux> so what happens when you do `sudo systemctl enable py3-kms.service`[13:17:45] <korealinux> it should create a symlink[13:17:53] <korealinux> to autostart the service on boot[13:17:54] <service_error> yes it created a symlink[13:18:07] *** rvstjs <rvstjs!~manjaro-u@92.63.22.191> has joined #manjaro[13:18:30] <rvstjs> Hi all, I'm having an issue getting plasma-dpi-switcher to work on a fresh install, does anyone know how I could get ~/.config/startupconfig to not be deleted after a session restart?[13:18:31] <service_error> but after boot there is no log file in ~/KMS_Log folder, which it shoul have one[13:19:11] <service_error> it only creates a log file if i run manually in terminal like, /usr/bin/python3 /opt/py-kms-master/py-kms/pykms_Server.py 127.0.0.2 1688 --loglevel DEBUG --logfile ~/KMS_Log/pykms_logserver.log --logsize 2[13:19:32] *** Blu3wolf <Blu3wolf!~manjaro-u@123.51.8.6> has joined #manjaro[13:19:35] <korealinux> isn't it run as root?[13:20:04] <korealinux> i don't think ~ be used in a service file like that[13:20:15] <korealinux> there can be many users[13:20:34] <korealinux> so it would not know which directory to put it in[13:20:53] <korealinux> unless it's the root user's directory[13:21:08] <service_error> ok I'll change it to like /home/<user_name>/KMS_Log[13:21:36] <service_error> well i don't have separate partition for home folder[13:21:57] <service_error> but Let me try with username[13:22:17] *** reevan-s <reevan-s!~reevan-s@unaffiliated/reevan-s> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:22:37] *** destrukto <destrukto!~simon@31-10-206-124.static.upc.ch> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:22:58] <korealinux> is there any logfiles in /root/KMS_Log ?[13:23:41] *** q4t1 <q4t1!~q4t1@209.ip-51-68-197.eu> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.6)[13:24:13] *** Spiro <Spiro!~Spiro@c-98-194-50-107.hsd1.tx.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[13:25:11] <service_error> nope log file there[13:25:59] <service_error> I've recently edited the, /usr/bin/python3 /opt/py-kms-master/py-kms/pykms_Server.py 127.0.0.2 1688 --loglevel DEBUG --logfile /home/user/KMS_Log/pykms_logserver.log --logsize 2[13:26:29] <service_error> and did sudo chmod 644 /lib/systemd/system/py3-kms.service, sudo systemctl daemon-reload, sudo systemctl enable py3-kms.service[13:26:42] <service_error> and finally sudo systemctl start py3-kms.service[13:26:53] <service_error> but still it's not running[13:27:21] <korealinux> stop it first?[13:27:40] <korealinux> you don't have to keep doing the chmod[13:27:50] <korealinux> or the systemctl enable[13:28:03] *** Julius_Captain <Julius_Captain!~Julius_Ca@54020778.dsl.pool.telekom.hu> has joined #manjaro[13:28:11] *** rvstjs <rvstjs!~manjaro-u@92.63.22.191> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:28:20] <service_error> here is what i get by running systemctl status py3-kms.service , https://bpaste.net/show/ALHO2[13:28:41] <korealinux> here is a nice tutorial on systemd service files https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units[13:29:49] <service_error> I'm actually on that site now :D[13:29:52] <korealinux> well something is wrong then[13:29:59] <JohnML> korealinux> "i don't know why it would not work for root" ... me too :-) staying with ctrl 2 thats ok![13:30:21] <korealinux> can you paste the full content of py3-kms.service[13:31:17] <korealinux> JohnML: you checked the root config for thunar.xml?[13:31:30] *** q4t1 <q4t1!~q4t1@209.ip-51-68-197.eu> has joined #manjaro[13:32:08] <service_error> sure https://bpaste.net/show/RVG4O[13:32:23] <JohnML> korealinux, yes changed that too as told by you!![13:32:29] <korealinux> did you create KMS_Log directory ?[13:32:35] <service_error> yes yes[13:32:41] <service_error> I have that[13:33:43] <service_error> let me stop and start the service once more[13:33:51] <Blu3wolf> Chasing a hand with routing a keypress to an application. It sees it when its focused, but when unfocused it doesnt see keypresses. The complication: Its running under wine, and on windows it has a global event hook so that it sees keystrokes generally. It only needs to see 1 (a push-to-talk button).[13:34:30] <Blu3wolf> Ive found a method with xdotool to send a particular keypress to a given application, but as far as I can tell it sends individual keypresses, rather than the press-and-hold behavior I need[13:34:57] <service_error> nope still fails[13:35:27] *** destrukto <destrukto!~simon@31-10-206-124.static.upc.ch> has joined #manjaro[13:39:13] <service_error> but when i run manually in terminal it gives me a beautiful log https://bpaste.net/show/UCXRQ[13:41:08] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@2001-b011-e604-3f11-b8e4-a21e-ea0e-3a08.dynamic-ip6.hinet.net> has joined #manjaro[13:41:18] *** cvz <cvz!~cvz@h-231-78.A785.priv.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.6)[13:42:18] <service_error> @korealinux are you here man?[13:42:19] *** Blu3wolf <Blu3wolf!~manjaro-u@123.51.8.6> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[13:42:35] <korealinux> i am thinking sorry[13:42:47] <service_error> oh it's fine[13:43:50] <korealinux> what is the source of the service file?[13:44:02] <korealinux> well first, what happens if you do not try to create logfile[13:44:15] *** luuuciano <luuuciano!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has joined #manjaro[13:44:17] <korealinux> let's see if the service file itself works minimally[13:45:11] <korealinux> so remove everything after 1688 in ExecStart line[13:45:29] <service_error> ok[13:45:30] <korealinux> and restart the service see if it runs[13:46:15] <korealinux> just do `sudo systemctl restart py3-kms.service`[13:48:30] <service_error> nope still fails https://bpaste.net/show/UBVJC[13:48:56] <korealinux> status group[13:49:14] <korealinux> maybe that needs change..[13:49:17] *** ToniGER <ToniGER!~toni@unaffiliated/luvisbad2thebone> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:49:28] <service_error> i also tried like https://bpaste.net/show/L22SQ[13:49:37] <service_error> but this also fails[13:49:42] <korealinux> where did you get this service file from?[13:49:53] <service_error> https://github.com/SystemRage/py-kms/issues/4[13:50:38] *** s8321414_ <s8321414_!~s8321414@218-173-52-176.dynamic-ip.hinet.net> has joined #manjaro[13:50:45] *** mowcat <mowcat!~mowcat@cpc105070-sgyl40-2-0-cust722.18-2.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:50:49] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@2001-b011-e604-3f11-b8e4-a21e-ea0e-3a08.dynamic-ip6.hinet.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[13:51:03] *** s8321414_ is now known as s8321414[13:55:17] *** Blu3wolf <Blu3wolf!~blue@pa49-196-33-84.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #manjaro[13:58:22] *** nico_nico <nico_nico!~khais@arennes-653-1-304-95.w109-218.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.6)[13:58:32] *** LuvIsBad2TheBone <LuvIsBad2TheBone!~toni@unaffiliated/luvisbad2thebone> has joined #manjaro[14:01:57] <korealinux> oh this one is what you used https://github.com/SystemRage/py-kms/issues/46#issuecomment-561009773[14:02:22] <korealinux> it seems to work for that user[14:02:31] <service_error> yes,[14:03:41] <service_error> but actually not. that was me actually :D, I thought it worked but actually now i understand it doesn't[14:04:01] <service_error> i'll open that issue again :([14:04:34] <korealinux> oh lol[14:06:27] <service_error> because i ran manually and that did the job so I thought it worked. but now when I'm testing in my VM i see it actually fails[14:07:19] <korealinux> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/374273/systemd-my-custom-service-exits-with-status-code-216-group[14:07:24] <korealinux> try changing the user and group[14:12:44] <service_error> to whom ?[14:13:06] *** cyberpsi <cyberpsi!~paulo@177.73.70.102> has joined #manjaro[14:14:06] <korealinux> you can try with your username[14:14:22] <korealinux> first, then if it works create a dedicated user for the service[14:15:28] <service_error> groups[14:15:29] <service_error> sys network power sambashare lp wheel autologin sobuj[14:15:39] <service_error> gives me follwing output[14:16:17] <korealinux> try with sobuj[14:16:19] <service_error> i understand the user shoud be changed to my machine name[14:16:30] <service_error> what about the group?[14:16:39] <korealinux> sobuj[14:16:54] <service_error> my terminal shows like, [sobuj@sobuj-pc ~]$[14:17:15] <service_error> so my user name is, sobuj and group?[14:17:52] <service_error> ok so both ar sobuj[14:21:39] <service_error> well the status is, https://bpaste.net/show/KWYSG[14:23:41] <service_error> the good news is it now creats log file in the desired location[14:24:49] <korealinux> what does journalctl show?[14:25:24] <service_error> love you @korealinux it works :D, here is the status, https://bpaste.net/show/HQJAM[14:25:41] *** gour <gour!~gour@unaffiliated/gour> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[14:26:06] <korealinux> oh what happened?[14:28:05] <service_error> it worked! the problem was user and user group were set to nobody changing to current user solved the problem[14:28:56] <korealinux> great![14:30:53] <korealinux> you can create another user just for py3-kms, that is how other apps that create service units does it[14:34:49] <korealinux> systemd error codes bookmarked https://freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.exec.html#id-1.20.8[14:39:17] <service_error> @korealinux, Please accept my humble obeisances. without your help I would never make it working. Thanks to the awesome Manjaro community.[14:41:39] *** adsworth <adsworth!~adsworth@p5DD7F215.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[14:42:28] *** nolfie <nolfie!~nolfie@185.9.141.3> has joined #manjaro[14:42:44] <korealinux> (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ no you're awesome[14:43:17] <service_error> :D over and out[14:43:50] *** service_error <service_error!~manjaro-u@103.59.179.98> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:44:20] *** LuvIsBad2TheBone <LuvIsBad2TheBone!~toni@unaffiliated/luvisbad2thebone> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:46:48] *** LuvIsBad2TheBone <LuvIsBad2TheBone!~toni@unaffiliated/luvisbad2thebone> has joined #manjaro[14:54:20] <Blu3wolf> Is there a convenient method of sending keypress information to a window which is not focused?[14:56:03] <Blu3wolf> I have a windows program I am running under wine. It works, but it doesnt capture global keypresses like it does under windows. Im hoping someone can give me a method to send key down and key release information to it. Ive seen a way to use xdotools to send keypresses, but not key down and key release events[14:59:44] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@218-173-52-176.dynamic-ip.hinet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:13:52] *** trens <trens!~trens@cpe-184-54-204-115.swo.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[15:15:10] *** spacewook <spacewook!~work@ip24-253-130-175.hr.hr.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[15:31:04] *** cyberpsi <cyberpsi!~paulo@177.73.70.102> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:41:22] *** Spiro <Spiro!~Spiro@c-98-194-50-107.hsd1.tx.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[15:44:01] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@vpn.dualog.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:47:36] *** thingfish <thingfish!~thingfish@unaffiliated/thingfish> has joined #manjaro[15:51:13] *** krux02 <krux02!~krux02@p200300E81700CA000968F21B2080FF57.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[15:51:37] *** destrukto <destrukto!~simon@31-10-206-124.static.upc.ch> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:53:39] *** destrukto <destrukto!~simon@31-10-206-124.static.upc.ch> has joined #manjaro[15:53:53] *** thingfish <thingfish!~thingfish@unaffiliated/thingfish> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[15:54:23] *** thingfish <thingfish!~thingfish@unaffiliated/thingfish> has joined #manjaro[15:55:48] *** garandil <garandil!~garandil@ns358842.ip-91-121-154.eu> has joined #manjaro[16:10:58] *** baker0052 <baker0052!~baker0052@p5B34F2ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[16:12:19] *** baker0052 <baker0052!~baker0052@p5B34F2ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[16:17:33] <JohnML> korealinux, known issue: see https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=240261 But i don't go this way ... too much to edit ... i'm pensioner, so no more stress :-)[16:25:22] <korealinux> is it to stop users from using thunar root?[16:25:49] *** atrament666 <atrament666!~atrament@cpc95006-newt38-2-0-cust73.19-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[16:27:29] *** nolfie <nolfie!~nolfie@185.9.141.3> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[16:32:46] <JohnML> korealinux, i don't know ... perhaps ... kdesu has also vanished ... i don't like been handled like that![16:36:41] <korealinux> oh i never used that before[16:39:58] <spacewook> for root file manager i just use https://github.com/ranger/ranger[16:41:29] <spacewook> then again, i spend almost zero time with gui file managers so, so slow, i use kde but am heavily terminal relient[16:41:54] <korealinux> i was just thinking about trying ranger today[16:42:12] <korealinux> i use mc[16:43:38] <spacewook> i like mc, but i use ranger alot now, was mostly useing nnn before, mc is great tho[16:44:51] <JohnML> ranger = VIM based hot keys ... no thank you ,,, i'll never touch vi again!!![16:45:02] <spacewook> ranger + emacs + zsh + byobu + lazydocker is my terminal home[16:45:44] <spacewook> its not bad just hjkl for movement[16:46:01] <spacewook> you can use arrow keys in ranger[16:46:21] <spacewook> but for those with a 60% keyboard who dont move off the home row its fast as well[16:47:13] *** r3v01t <r3v01t!~elijah@unaffiliated/r3v01t> has joined #manjaro[16:48:10] <r3v01t> hey all. i plugged an ethernet cable into my desktop and now it freezes when it gets to the login screen (wheather i plug the cablein or not now) any ideas?[16:48:12] <korealinux> 60% is tenkeyless? or less?[16:48:46] <spacewook> https://www.amazon.com/Anne-Pro-Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlit/dp/B07MR775BR?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-ffab-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B07MR775BR[16:49:37] <spacewook> smaller[16:51:02] <korealinux> ooohh[16:51:27] <korealinux> arrow keys are wasd with function?[16:52:05] *** Spiro <Spiro!~Spiro@c-98-194-50-107.hsd1.tx.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:52:27] <spacewook> or ijkl[16:52:35] <spacewook> whatever side you want[16:52:59] <spacewook> if your a lefty mouse etc[16:54:04] *** abundantmussel <abundantmussel!~quassel@server.shortland.org> has joined #manjaro[16:54:28] <spacewook> i think newegg has em for $65 still[16:57:10] <korealinux> interesting, i am still getting used to my new tenkeyless[16:57:24] <korealinux> i use arrow keys a lot too[16:57:39] <korealinux> what is this tap function?[16:58:23] <korealinux> if i have my hand off the keyboard, how fast could i press arrow ey?[16:58:31] *** rfried <rfried!~rfried@207.154.200.205> has quit IRC (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io)[16:58:46] <korealinux> one hand two hand?[16:59:07] *** rfried <rfried!~rfried@207.154.200.205> has joined #manjaro[17:00:15] *** uwjesq <uwjesq!~henry@w3-net.de> has joined #manjaro[17:00:29] *** mowcat <mowcat!~mowcat@cpc105070-sgyl40-2-0-cust722.18-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[17:01:08] <uwjesq> Hello. I was wondering, is there a way to have 3 process run at the same time and have their output all display in one terminal but when I hit Ctrl+C all 3 processes get killed?[17:01:26] <spacewook> docker-compose[17:02:04] <uwjesq> LOL[17:02:15] <uwjesq> spacewook: How are you doing? Hope you have a great day![17:02:26] <spacewook> good you?[17:02:49] <spacewook> @korealinux https://www.reddit.com/r/AnnePro/comments/6wwsig/a_comprehensive_amateur_guide_to_the_anne_pro/[17:03:11] <uwjesq> I had lasik surgery on monday. So eyes are still a bit dry.[17:06:09] <spacewook> @r3v01t can you boot up off a usb and look at the logs?[17:07:01] *** Scotty_Trees <Scotty_Trees!~Scotty_Tr@user-24-96-5-46.knology.net> has joined #manjaro[17:07:11] <r3v01t> spacewook: no for some reason im having trouble booting off usb,[17:07:24] <korealinux> guid to using keyboard, this is serious stuff lol[17:08:33] <spacewook> gotta cram those other keys in there somehow lol[17:09:14] <uwjesq> r3v01t: Some tutorials on how to make a usb device bootable are straight up wrong.[17:09:36] *** rfried <rfried!~rfried@207.154.200.205> has quit IRC (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io)[17:09:58] <uwjesq> r3v01t: Unetbootin worked for me in the past but it stopped working for a while. I switched to using dd instead.[17:10:01] <spacewook> https://www.balena.io/etcher/ for making one[17:10:12] <r3v01t> uwjesq: yea im experincing that[17:10:13] <spacewook> unetbootin modifys the boot partition[17:10:16] <spacewook> that is not good[17:10:29] *** rfried <rfried!~rfried@207.154.200.205> has joined #manjaro[17:10:32] <r3v01t> whats the correct command for dd?[17:10:55] <uwjesq> r3v01t: I always google it. You do want to create a bootable thumb drive, right?[17:11:08] <r3v01t> yes[17:11:37] <spacewook> use etcher. you dont need to worry about anything and it verifys[17:12:05] <uwjesq> r3v01t: Something like dd if=(HYBRID)_ISO_IMAGE.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M && sync you have to be root and very carefull with the device name.[17:13:25] <spacewook> "fdisk -l" to double check[17:13:32] *** rfried <rfried!~rfried@207.154.200.205> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:13:57] *** rfried <rfried!~rfried@207.154.200.205> has joined #manjaro[17:18:26] *** walzu <walzu!~walzu@91-152-70-50.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:18:31] <r3v01t> spacewook: etcher worked thanks![17:19:36] <spacewook> yeah np, its my go to for quick flashing most things, has yet to dissappoint[17:20:07] <spacewook> even those tricky raspi images[17:20:46] <uwjesq> Nice. Havent seen etcher before looks nice and straight forward.[17:20:50] <uwjesq> Good find.[17:22:18] <spacewook> if its in the arch/aur and admin/programming/related repos chances are ive tried it out lol[17:24:37] <spacewook> also https://github.com/sindresorhus/awesome[17:25:02] <spacewook> cant say how many awesome tools ive lifted from github awesome lists[17:25:28] <spacewook> and https://github.com/k4m4/terminals-are-sexy#readme[17:26:40] <uwjesq> Sweet, did not know the second link.[17:27:49] <spacewook> oh-my-zsh sucked a week out of my life setting up to the way i like, but i cant go back to bash[17:28:41] *** r3v01t <r3v01t!~elijah@unaffiliated/r3v01t> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[17:28:55] <uwjesq> spacewook: I love oh-my-zsh no turning back.[17:28:57] *** firewyre <firewyre!~firewyre@pool-96-237-48-24.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:29:10] <uwjesq> Those where dark days without oh-my-zsh :-D[17:29:36] <spacewook> having git statusline, history autocomplete, syntax checking, autocomplete menus for things like docker, telling me what python venv is active[17:29:42] <spacewook> its like how did i use it before[17:33:50] *** firewyre <firewyre!~firewyre@pool-96-237-48-24.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[17:47:22] <uwjesq> :-D[17:48:09] *** r3v01t <r3v01t!~elijah@unaffiliated/r3v01t> has joined #manjaro[17:48:35] <r3v01t> ok so i got the usb to boot but it hangs on bringing up the desktop. i just geat a black screen and a cursor[17:51:51] <uwjesq> r3v01t: Can it be a graphics driver issue?[17:52:03] <uwjesq> r3v01t: Some bootable usb have several grub options.[17:55:23] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@194.44.236.118> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:57:24] <r3v01t> ok i chosethe other one. so far so good[17:58:46] *** BeerLover <BeerLover!~BeerLover@103.203.254.74> has joined #manjaro[18:01:20] <r3v01t> now its just a black screen no cursor[18:04:43] <r3v01t> im gonna let it sit for a bit and see if it does anything[18:08:27] <spacewook> r3v01t: does Ctrl+Alt+F2 bring up the terminal[18:13:13] *** endless90 <endless90!~endless90@p200300DA372BCF00C0542B0A94264CF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[18:16:40] <r3v01t> no[18:17:48] <r3v01t> the only thing i can think of is this wireless keyboard im using[18:21:27] *** gour <gour!~gour@unaffiliated/gour> has joined #manjaro[18:21:40] <spacewook> did you update something? change the GPU driver settings?[18:21:48] *** Rue <Rue!~rue@2001-b011-1000-1053-f60f-bc52-3504-b607.dynamic-ip6.hinet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Rue)[18:22:15] <gour> does manjaro install different theme via architect than via gui-install?[18:23:53] <r3v01t> spacewook: no i didnt[18:24:13] *** uwjesq <uwjesq!~henry@w3-net.de> has left #manjaro[18:25:29] <spacewook> is this a fresh install?[18:25:38] <spacewook> like was it working?[18:26:08] <r3v01t> i tried doing a fresh install and couldnt even do that. it worked for a a bit on my old install then 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