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[02:37:59] <doge-doge> hey guys, I wanted to make sure the only official way to install minecraft is through the launcher in the AUR, correct?
[02:38:43] <doge-doge> I had a .jar file I used to run, but that no longer works
[02:40:27] <doge-doge> the nvidia 440 drivers are still poo-poo on some titles...
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[03:04:09] <doge-doge> welp, i'm out. peace out yall
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[10:24:33] <ishw0r> hi folks
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[12:06:46] <meskarune> howdy
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[16:37:35] <jeroenim0> Hello hello! I've been a happy manjaro user since 2 months, all good until my display goed to sleep or the system suspends. Sometimes it wakes up nicely, sometimes I get a black screen and my mouse is stuck. Sometimes I get a complete system hang. It's really unpredictable. When I force my system to sleep it mostly works fine, except two apps crash always spotify and brave browser, but a kill and
[16:37:41] <jeroenim0> restart the programs works fine. I have quite a new motherboard Asrock B450 and a AMD Ryzen 3600 and a nvidea 1050 videoacard. It's so strange because I
[16:37:48] <jeroenim0> it;s not consistent
[16:38:05] <jeroenim0> any hints and tips from you guys?
[16:38:42] <jeroenim0> I tried different kernels.. and so far the stable 4.18.85 seems most stable
[16:38:51] <thingfish> if I were you, I'd post in the Manjaro forums. This channel is pretty dead, usually.
[16:39:19] <jeroenim0> thingfish: thanks!
[16:39:24] <thingfish> sure thing :)
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[16:55:28] <excognac> re all
[16:57:19] <korealinux> forum is the answer
[16:58:11] <excognac> what remote desktop server would you recomment for manjaro host?
[17:00:38] <korealinux> forum is the answer
[17:01:14] <korealinux> actually google then forum is the answer
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[17:29:26] <korealinux> rap battle is the answer
[17:29:44] <korealinux> street cred is the question
[17:30:33] <thingfish> heh
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[17:39:32] <runwei007> aKAsm;am;asd
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[19:53:35] <Jusic> I just installed Manjaro Cinnamon but IPV6 does not work in an environment where all other devices have working IPV6, any hint?
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[20:29:03] <atlimit8> I plan on setting up a file server + Plex Media Server for a family member and may not be be near by in the future to perform maintenance. I am wondering if *.pacnew and *.pacsave files can be ignored and how safe it would be to run a cron job to update the system at night with or without BTRFS snapshots?
[20:30:25] <gehidore> sounds like a job suited for something like ubuntu server, centos, or basically anything else
[20:34:37] <atlimit8> probably
[20:35:21] <atlimit8> I'm just more familiar with the likes of Gentoo, Arch, & Manjaro (customized).
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[20:49:06] <gehidore> yet you're asking if the pac files are safe to be ignored and asking about a cron job to update the system
[20:49:35] <gehidore> doesn't sound like you're that familiar with them enough to warrant not using something built for ignored use rather than one that rolling release
[20:55:39] <Jusic> Can nobody help me with my IPv6 problem?
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[20:56:42] * gehidore can't
[21:01:10] <atlimit8> I know how to write a cron job. My question was more about if issues would arise. I handle issues from my own customizations.
[21:02:15] <atlimit8> My customizations have broken updating, so I don't have experience with more vanilla setups.
[21:04:33] <atlimit8> Perhaps I didn't phrase that question well enough; I was seeking to know if the system can safely automated or if the updates would cause problems and need attention.
[21:05:13] <atlimit8> I would handle the how myself.
[21:06:29] <atlimit8> My playing around tends to require troubleshooting now and then.
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[21:08:24] <mr_alpaca> hi
[21:08:51] <mr_alpaca> is the unstable branch a direct copy of Arch Linux's repos? or are the programs modified to suit manjaro?
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[21:09:51] <Jusic> IPv6 on cable connections works, only wifi is broken
[21:13:22] <gehidore> atlimit8 my point was that you claim to be experienced with these distros yet you're unaware that updating on them can and does cause breakage from time to time which contradicts your claim of experience
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[21:19:00] <atlimit8> It is actually my worry about about breakage that prompted me to ask. I suppose that I'm dreaming that there would be a way to avoid it, which is silly from someone who has done Linux from Scratch before. I just want to avoid problems even though I should know that reality is full of them.
[21:20:22] <atlimit8> I real fear is something breaks and get get yelled at even if I did everything correctly.
[21:21:19] <atlimit8> I'm more afraid of people than the insides of systems.
[21:25:57] <atlimit8> Jusic: what does ifconfig say?
[21:26:20] <gehidore> so use a system built for what you're asking for, or set yourself a mark on the calendar to do updates remotely: manually invoked
[21:27:10] <mr_alpaca> is the unstable branch a direct copy of Arch Linux's repos? or are the programs modified to suit manjaro?
[21:27:24] <Jusic> ifconfig isn't part of standard install anymore, but ip addr only lists a link local address
[21:28:33] <atlimit8> so just port forward with SSH with the a reminder on my calendar or in .zshrc file (I always have a shell open)
[21:37:23] <atlimit8> Jusic - what does `mhwd -l` say?
[21:39:42] <atlimit8> If your adapter is not there, then what does `lspci` say?
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[21:43:58] <Jusic> atlimit8: My Wifi card is called Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device c822
[21:44:19] <Jusic> It uses rtwpci driver
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[21:47:47] <atlimit8> `lsmod|grep rtwpci`?
[21:49:40] <Jusic> mac80211 1003520 2 rtwpci,rtw88
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[21:54:05] <atlimit8> `lspci -knn | grep et -A3`
[21:54:22] <oleanderholiday> Hi friends,
[21:54:32] <oleanderholiday> oh whoops oops that doesn't work like discord
[21:55:30] <atlimit8> better: `lspci -knn | grep -A3 "Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device c822"`
[21:55:47] <Jusic> atlimit8: What are you trying to achieve? We already know its an Realtek c822.
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[21:56:09] <atlimit8> Kernel driver in use:
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[21:56:20] <Jusic> And the card is working perfectly fine with IPv4, only IPv6 doesn't work
[21:56:31] <atlimit8> seeing if it is using that driver for that device
[21:56:32] <Jusic> rtw_pci
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[21:58:36] <oleanderholiday> Hi friends,Got a problem with my 2nd display working once and then after that only showing either a cursor over a black screen or a cursor over a garbled desktop version. Problem persists even with a full reinstall with a diferent window manager. Internet searches suggest it's a driver issue, but the suggested fixes with xrandr and mhwi didn't
[21:58:37] <oleanderholiday> work.Using Manjaro 18.1.3 on a Lenovo T430.Please let me know what info I should provide. Thank you very much.
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[22:32:37] <atlimit8> Jusic: Use `ip -6 addr show dev` to get an IPV6 address template, change the last part before the '/', then ` sudo ip -6 addr add <modified-ipv6addr>/<subnet (64)> dev <wifi-dev>1
[22:33:23] <atlimit8> ignore that '1' at the end
[22:33:33] <atlimit8> `ip -6 addr show dev` to get an IPV6 address template, change the last part before the '/', then ` sudo ip -6 addr add <modified-ipv6addr>/<subnet (64)> dev <wifi-dev>`
[22:34:01] <mr_alpaca> is the unstable branch a direct copy of Arch Linux's repos? or are the programs modified to suit manjaro?
[22:36:05] <atlimit8> That will tell us if it is allowed to have an IPv6 address. Then check on the router for the IP address added.
[22:37:26] <Jusic> Currently its an fe80::1b8b:8c3a:b569:a882 link local adress
[22:37:43] <atlimit8> for eth?
[22:38:12] <atlimit8> What we need is an available IPv6 address for your network.
[22:38:23] <Jusic> wlp1s0
[22:39:29] <Jusic> It worked, I added inet6 2a02:908:5a3:6d80:40c1:e5af:f4b9:6609/64 scope global
[22:40:19] <Jusic> And I can ping between devices
[22:40:29] <Jusic> Why is autoconfig not working...
[22:41:24] <atlimit8> Does your router automatically assign IPv6 addresses to wifi connections?
[22:41:54] <Jusic> Yes, I currently have 2 other laptos and 3 smartphones with working IPv6 connected to this wifi network...
[22:42:53] <Jusic> Windows laptop and Linux Mint laptop is working fine
[22:43:15] <Jusic> But for some strange reason autoconfiguration is broken on my Manjaro
[22:44:25] <Jusic> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IPv6 tells iptables or ufw could block ipv6-icmp, but I've disabled them already
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[22:53:42] <atlimit8> `ls /etc/systemd/network/`
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[22:54:00] <Jusic> Emtpy
[22:54:13] <atlimit8> You may have to use a static address for now
[22:54:32] <atlimit8> `cat /etc/systemd/networkd.conf`?
[22:54:43] <Jusic> Only comments
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[22:56:26] <atlimit8> cat /etc/dhcpcd.conf
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[22:59:56] <Jusic> https://pastebin.com/C1AR17F3
[23:00:18] <Jusic> systemctl status dhcpcd
[23:00:18] <Jusic> ● dhcpcd.service - dhcpcd on all interfaces
[23:00:18] <Jusic> Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/dhcpcd.service; disabled; vendor preset: disabled)
[23:00:18] <Jusic> Active: inactive (dead)
[23:00:26] <Jusic> But in my understanding dhcpd isn't even used
[23:00:45] <Jusic> NetworkManager has it's own client buildin
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[23:12:03] <mr_alpaca> is the unstable branch a direct copy of Arch Linux's repos? or are the programs modified to suit manjaro?
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[23:52:07] <mparillo> Most of the packages are direct copies, but some (like the kernels) are patched, and some AUR packages (like trizen) make it into the Majaro repos, and some are completely unique to Manjaro like the Manjaro Settings Manager, Hardware Detection, etc.
[23:54:47] <mr_alpaca> mparillo, i see; so if i switch to the unstable branch, i'll be fine in as far as that fundamental incompatibilities between Arch Linux and Manjaro won't happen since the packages that Manjaro needs to be patched will be patched, right?
[23:55:06] <mr_alpaca> and the only problems i could run into are instabilities from lack of testing
[23:55:22] <mparillo> You mean switch from ?
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[23:56:00] <mr_alpaca> right, switching from stable to unstable
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[23:58:27] <mparillo> I have done it, and had no problems for months, then a systemd upgrade hit me. So, if you back up your data, and are reasonably willing to work through things, I vote you give it a try, especially if there is a package you really want, and do not want to wait.
[23:58:59] <mr_alpaca> i see
[23:59:07] <mr_alpaca> what was the issue with the systemd upgrade?
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