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[04:18:37] <darkfurry> Hi all ! Can someone help me to install manjaro ?
[04:28:12] <Tacoder> like doing it remotelly?
[04:30:20] <darkfurry> yes
[04:31:25] <darkfurry> i downloaded the .iso with qbittorent and the GPG signature fails with Kleopatra :(
[04:31:39] <darkfurry> please someone help me !
[04:32:14] <darkfurry> I'm using Microsoft Windows 10 Pro right now.
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[04:37:42] <korealinux> gpg?
[04:37:56] <darkfurry> YES
[04:38:00] <korealinux> manjaro iso's do not use gpg as far as i know, it is just a sha checksum
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[04:38:33] <darkfurry> on the official website at section download it has the link with gpg
[04:39:29] <korealinux> i am wrong then
[04:40:21] <darkfurry> I'm so sad
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[04:42:06] <korealinux> i have never tried to verify the sha checksum like this, it is on the official website
[04:42:23] <korealinux> but what directions are you following using kleopatra?
[04:42:57] <korealinux> have you used it successfully before?
[04:43:04] <darkfurry> nope
[04:43:05] <korealinux> with other distros?
[04:43:24] <darkfurry> last night i found kleopatra for my 1st time
[04:43:36] <korealinux> try following these directions then https://www.howtogeek.com/246332/how-to-verify-a-downloaded-linux-iso-file-wasnt-tampered-with/
[04:44:05] <darkfurry> i assure you my OS is tampered
[04:44:13] <darkfurry> I'm 100 % sure !
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[04:45:41] <darkfurry> I followed your link and Gpg4win is Kleopatra
[04:45:52] <darkfurry> I'm on the right path.
[04:48:17] <korealinux> the question is not if your os was tampered, but if the server hosting manjaro iso was tampered
[04:50:19] <korealinux> getting an error seems normal here however: "You’re sure to see an error message if you do it in this way, as you haven’t gone through the trouble of confirming those Fedora certificates are actually legitimate. That’s a more difficult task."
[04:52:01] <darkfurry> there is no such think as a open box OS
[04:52:16] <darkfurry> All OS's are tempered i guess.
[04:54:04] <darkfurry> you know in elementary school they informed us how the electrical current travels a conductor. and the definition is that is a coordonated move of electron inside a conductor.
[04:54:34] <darkfurry> the problem is who controls the patterns of the electrons ? :)
[04:55:09] <korealinux> that is way beyond installation issues
[04:55:28] <darkfurry> yep
[04:56:02] <darkfurry> I'm planning to program a new OS with real free Kernel
[04:56:08] <darkfurry> not this BS
[04:57:53] <darkfurry> It's not nice to play GOD !
[04:58:37] <darkfurry> Coz ppl have soul - who doesn't belong to anyone except GOD.
[05:00:11] <Velvet> wat
[05:00:46] <darkfurry> yes you heard well.
[05:03:31] <Velvet> lol
[05:03:45] <darkfurry> why are you crying ?
[05:03:51] <Velvet> are you high? -_=
[05:03:57] <darkfurry> nope
[05:04:05] <darkfurry> just drinking my morning cofee
[05:04:32] <darkfurry> Are you high?
[05:04:46] <Velvet> meh beh
[05:05:19] <darkfurry> can you talk is English without emoji's?
[05:05:30] <Velvet> of course
[05:06:55] <Velvet> :)
[05:08:07] <darkfurry> why are you crying?
[05:08:55] <darkfurry> It is a good day to die ! - Katshumoto
[05:09:52] <darkfurry> Have someone seen the movie Last Samurai ?
[05:10:26] <Velvet> about a decade ago
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[05:10:53] <darkfurry> Best movie in my life !
[05:12:01] <Velvet> my best movie is probably Mst3k: Mitchell
[05:12:02] <darkfurry> and so the World accepted to Nuke Japan ?! right ?
[05:12:21] <darkfurry> It's time for revenge !
[05:12:36] <CountryfiedLinux> Howdy
[05:12:37] <darkfurry> eye-for-an-eye
[05:12:48] <darkfurry> tooth-for-a-tooth
[05:12:58] <Velvet> toof
[05:13:21] <CountryfiedLinux> I just tried Manjaro KDE again. Video performance still subpar to Ubuntu. Manjaro is that Linux OS that I want to like the most.
[05:13:47] <CountryfiedLinux> I tried editing 2 4K videos picture-in-picture and it was bad. Not the case on Pop OS.
[05:13:58] <CountryfiedLinux> Intel HD 620 graphics here.
[05:14:08] <CountryfiedLinux> I think it's 620.
[05:14:26] <darkfurry> AMD R9 270x O.C. by ASUS here !
[05:14:41] <CountryfiedLinux> darkfurry, Does that perform well on Manjaro?
[05:15:12] <darkfurry> I can't verify the GPG !
[05:15:16] <darkfurry> using Kleopatra
[05:15:18] <CountryfiedLinux> My litmus test on graphics is editing 2 4K videos picture-in-picture. If it does that well then that passes the test.
[05:15:24] <darkfurry> it fail's
[05:15:37] <darkfurry> CountryfiedLinux help me !
[05:15:53] <CountryfiedLinux> I don't know what Kleopatra is.
[05:16:10] <darkfurry> you should read the README.file
[05:26:18] <darkfurry> korealinux what are you doing ?
[05:26:57] <darkfurry> Is anyone still alive ?
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[05:29:06] <darkfurry> Can someone in this channel guide me to install manjaro without SISTEM tempering ?
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[05:30:03] -darkfurry- help me !
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[06:01:54] <gehidore> senting channel notices is a one way ticket to be entirely ignored
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[06:05:47] <korealinux> when someone starts talking about electrons when all they have to do is read how gpg works on a simple guide, that person cannot be helped
[06:07:51] <korealinux> CountryfiedLinux: nothing major changed in manjaro in the week since you last sai that
[06:08:01] <korealinux> sai=said
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[06:08:36] <HappyHobo> Except that they no longer support Deepin.
[06:09:00] <korealinux> i do not know what you expect someone to say in response, we would have to know more about your setup, if you want to actually do something about it i suggest posting in forums
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[06:09:08] <korealinux> instead of making remarks in here
[06:10:11] <korealinux> HappyHobo: about video performance, of course things change in regards to other things
[06:10:30] <gehidore> joins and asks to be helped to install manjaro... I haven't looked at the manjaro installer in ages however I'm pretty sure it still does most everything automagically for you...
[06:10:32] <gehidore> then says
[06:10:34] <gehidore> 20:56 <darkfurry> I'm planning to program a new OS with real free Kernel
[06:10:50] <gehidore> >can't install something that does all the heavy lifting for you...
[06:11:02] <gehidore> >claims they're going to program a new OS
[06:11:06] <gehidore> riiiiiiight
[06:12:21] <korealinux> that user was in his own world
[06:12:39] <korealinux> or her
[06:13:24] <HappyHobo> sounds like CountryfiedLinux
[06:16:12] <korealinux> they didn't even get to the installation part, they were just stopping at verifying the gpg signature of the iso checksum
[06:16:44] <CountryfiedLinux> Somebody got triggered...
[06:16:47] <korealinux> which should get an error normally in kleopatra according to that howtogeek guide
[06:17:23] <HappyHobo> CountryfiedLinux: you've come a little ways. At one time you were changing a background and calling it a new distribution.
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[06:21:06] <gehidore> I remember doing that to QNX in the 90's
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[06:24:59] <darkfurry> Hi all !
[06:28:38] <HappyHobo> dark furry? Are you a brown tabby?
[06:33:11] <gehidore> could be a russian blue?
[06:33:22] <gehidore> god forbit... a scottich fold!
[06:33:28] <gehidore> wow I can't type
[06:35:37] <Velvet> russian blues are great
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[07:20:01] <Byan> so did someone enable the dash to dock extension by default or something?
[07:20:06] <Byan> how do you get it back to how it was?
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[10:02:23] <shadowval> Hello, i've a problem with the install manjaro on my hard drive
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[10:03:06] <shadowval> I've 1to on my hd. I share 2 partitions and the install completed. But, i can't boot on this partition
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[10:21:53] <zxhellover> hi! how to prevent loading nvidia kernel module with startx?
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[10:31:36] <Makaveli7> zxhellover https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nouveau
[10:31:44] <Makaveli7> you need to blacklist it
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[10:36:42] <zxhellover> Makaveli7 i removed nvidia package.
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[10:38:36] <zxhellover> but startx wrote "modprobe: FATAL. nvidia kernel module not found"
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[10:45:42] <Makaveli7> which kernel are you using?
[10:48:25] <Makaveli7> because you need to install kernel module for the kernel you are using I think
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[10:59:44] <korealinux> zxhellover: what are you actually trying to do ? you need to install nouveau driver or install nvdia through mhwd, it's all automatic
[11:00:48] <korealinux> sudo mhwd -a pci nonfree 0300
[11:01:10] <korealinux> you don't need to blacklist anything manually
[11:02:15] <zxhellover> korealinux: I am actually trying to fix (remove) this horrible message at xorg startup (modprobe FATAL). i am using radeon driver
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[11:06:38] <korealinux> what is the full error?
[11:06:46] <zxhellover> Makaveli7 I usibg linux419 kernel
[11:08:12] <korealinux> have you recently instalelled something from aur?
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[11:09:44] <zxhellover> korealinux it start showing when i removed all nvidia* packages with pacman
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[11:10:10] <Makaveli7> I dont use manjaro but there should be nvidia-lts package for lts kernel
[11:10:54] <zxhellover> modprobe fatal module nvidia not found in directory /usr/lib/modules.....
[11:11:18] <zxhellover> korealinux: message "modprobe fatal module nvidia not found in directory /usr/lib/modules....."
[11:12:22] <korealinux> Makaveli7: we are not trying to install nvidia drimvers, the user has an amd card
[11:13:49] <korealinux> what was the reason for removing the nvidia packages? did you install them yourself?
[11:14:06] <zxhellover> i searched everywhere. but cannot find where startx trying load modprobe nvidia
[11:14:48] <korealinux> refer to /var/log/pacman.log for all th packages you removed if you are unsure what you did
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[11:15:24] <korealinux> i would reinstall them unless you know what you know what you are doing
[11:15:54] <korealinux> sorry typos
[11:16:07] <zxhellover> korealinux the reason is small hdd. the nvidia drivers was preinstalled with manjaro by default
[11:17:39] <korealinux> just because you have a small hdd is no reason to start uninstalling packages you may or may not actually need to run your system
[11:17:59] <korealinux> unless you are absolutely sure you do not need it
[11:18:31] <korealinux> there is a minimal version of most of the iso's if you want to try that
[11:19:05] <zxhellover> i do ont neet nvidia i am sure 100%
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[11:20:20] <korealinux> the main flagship editions all have minimal editions
[11:20:27] <korealinux> https://osdn.net/projects/manjaro/storage/
[11:21:02] <korealinux> for 18.1.0 at least
[11:21:17] <korealinux> they are in the minimal directory of each edition's 18.1.0 folder
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[11:22:47] <korealinux> what was the actual nvidia packages you uninstalled?
[11:24:49] <zxhellover> korealinux: i removed all linux419-nvidia-* packages
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[11:26:31] <zxhellover> about 6 versions of drivers with all dependencies of each
[11:27:53] <korealinux> so this has been going on for awhile
[11:28:03] <korealinux> because an iso would not install that many drivers
[11:28:20] <korealinux> especially for a card you do not have
[11:29:03] <korealinux> when did you install exactly?
[11:29:08] <korealinux> what are you running?
[11:31:15] <korealinux> also you should really uninstall video drivers through mhwd
[11:31:17] <korealinux> not pacman
[11:31:46] <korealinux> some scripts are run through mhwd that clean up system directories
[11:32:01] <korealinux> when installing/uninstalling drivers
[11:33:44] <korealinux> for nvidia systems, usually any blacklisting is done in 2 places (these are all automatically handled through mhwd of course)
[11:34:06] <korealinux> /etc/modules-load.d/mhwd-gpu.conf
[11:34:14] <zxhellover> korealinux i installed iso manjaro 17. because i need xfce 12. and all nvidia's were installed all together
[11:34:14] <korealinux> /etc/modprobe.d/mhwd-gpu.conf
[11:35:56] <zxhellover> i i will read info about mhwd. thanks
[11:37:55] <zxhellover> unfortunately there is no any mhwd or nvidia related config in these dirs
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[11:39:39] <korealinux> well you have an amd card, so i don't know if there should be
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[11:44:34] <jlebrech> is there an app to minimap other screens? would be cool to have a touchscreen monitor in the center to control 2 or 3 other monitors instead of a mouse.
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[11:47:25] <korealinux> zxhellover: the more interesing question is do you know which packages you need to ignore to stay on xfce 4.12?
[11:47:52] <korealinux> unless you just plan on not updating ever
[11:48:55] <zxhellover> korealinux: sure
[11:48:55] <korealinux> i am not saying i have an answer, you have to find out youself
[11:49:15] <zxhellover> IgnoreGrp = xfce4 xfce4-goodies
[11:49:22] <zxhellover> just 2 groups
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[11:50:24] <korealinux> that seems easy
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[11:54:09] <korealinux> i still don't understand why nvidia drivers would get installed if you have amd card, i do not find anything similar in forum
[11:54:39] <korealinux> maybe if you switched video cards, did you?
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[11:57:34] <korealinux> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/uninstalling-not-needed-drivers/54765/3
[11:57:53] <korealinux> there are some meta packages that get installed normally but those should not take up any space
[11:59:11] <korealinux> and are neehttps://forum.manjaro.org/t/i-have-amd-can-i-remove-these-nvidia-packages/52415
[11:59:30] <korealinux> oops remove nee" before the https
[12:01:22] <korealinux> again someone confusing meta packages with actual drivers
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[12:06:31] <zxhellover> korealinux it is no problem to remove preinstalled things
[12:06:49] <korealinux> i mean it can be a problem
[12:06:55] <korealinux> if you are doing it blindly
[12:06:58] <zxhellover> problem is fix startx to not load nvidia module
[12:07:16] <korealinux> just becuase you see the word you don't like
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[12:10:28] <profi200> What is the point of these "meta packages" if they do nothing?
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[12:22:31] <korealinux> well it's a meta package, all meta packages serve some purpose
[12:22:35] <korealinux> they don't actually do nothing
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[12:24:08] <profi200> Clogging the db of installed packages? :p
[12:24:18] <korealinux> do nothing only means they are not the actual pacakges
[12:25:36] <korealinux> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Meta_package_and_package_group
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[12:29:35] <korealinux> i don't know if that is actually what we are talking about tho.
[12:29:47] <profi200> Ah, so basically just a way to "combine" a bunch of packages.
[12:29:53] <korealinux> maybe a different type of metapackage that only references one other package
[12:30:00] <korealinux> like linux-latest in arch
[12:30:32] <korealinux> manjaro has a linux-latest also now
[12:30:51] <profi200> If it has only 1 package as dependency then there is no point imho.
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[12:32:00] <korealinux> well it can switch the user from one package to another package automatically
[12:32:09] <korealinux> say linux414 to linux53
[12:32:38] <korealinux> if using linux-latest
[12:33:03] <korealinux> or whatever the newest kernel is at the time
[12:34:55] <korealinux> of you also need the extramodule latest packages for you system
[12:35:10] <korealinux> so it is not really ready for general use
[12:35:50] <profi200> Does it pull in the latest experimental kernel? That would not be good imho (bugs).
[12:35:50] <korealinux> real easy to get an unbootable system unless the user knows to do that
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[12:36:32] <korealinux> it is done manually right now, i don't once the newest kernel has 2-3 stable versions
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[12:36:44] <korealinux> don't = think
[12:36:52] <korealinux> typos tonight...
[12:39:02] <korealinux> i don't know why i am explaing it like this https://forum.manjaro.org/t/call-for-testing-kernel-metapackages/93075
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[12:45:13] <profi200> That's not so nice having to clean up old kernels.
[12:49:00] <korealinux> it's probaby so users have backup kernels in case newest doesn't boot
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[12:57:42] <korealinux> basically wanting latest kernel is not exclusive to wanting only 1 kernel
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[12:58:40] <korealinux> it is different on arch where there is only 1 kernel package
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[12:59:35] <korealinux> ...i think
[13:01:30] <korealinux> since i have never ran arch
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[14:18:13] <VLMC> Hey, how can I flash a .img file to an unallocated space on my SSD? The .img file contains two partitions
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[14:54:10] <ponyrider> if you fdisk -l /image/file to get details, then use dd
[14:55:38] <ponyrider> VLMC: fdisk -l | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io
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[15:33:11] <VLMC> ponyrider: seems a bit risky
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[15:34:06] <ponyrider> what? no
[15:34:31] <ponyrider> VLMC: can you post the output of $ fdisk -l /image/file
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[15:37:51] <VLMC> ponyrider: https://gist.github.com/acerspyro/897d8aae5fade2b67188effe160575b6
[15:39:26] <ponyrider> so we can test it first
[15:48:59] <ponyrider> dd if=/v/l/l/images seek=4 count=1185792 bs=4M of=~/img1.dd
[15:49:06] <ponyrider> VLMC:^
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[15:59:39] <ponyrider> actually i think i goofed up, the bs=4M probably shouldn't be there, as it will override some other settings. prob take it out
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[16:09:32] <VLMC> ponyrider: currently working in VM, I'll get back to you at noon
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[17:51:56] <Samya> hey
[17:52:37] <Samya> i am new to Manjaro and using the i3 version but cant find the i3block config
[17:52:47] <Samya> does anybody know where the config is?
[17:54:21] <ggr> i also use i3 and there is no i3block in my system.. perhaps it is not present by default
[17:54:45] <ggr> must be installed first
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[17:55:10] <Samya> which bar is these than?
[17:55:38] <ggr> i3status
[17:56:08] <Samya> and where is these config?
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[17:56:48] <ggr> should be ~/.i3status.conf
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[17:58:31] <Samya> there is only .i3
[17:59:10] <ggr> look into .i3 then.. maybe it is there
[17:59:30] <ggr> .i3 should be a folder.. my configs are from several years ago
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[18:14:35] <Samya> i cant find it
[18:15:44] <Samya> i have also a second question
[18:15:52] <Samya> i cant scroll with my touchpad
[18:17:04] <Samya> i have a lenovo t530
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[18:24:58] <Samya> i have synpatics installed
[18:25:08] <Samya> but cant still scroll
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[18:42:50] <rebag> hey
[18:43:09] <rebag> I can't start qjackctl any ideas ?
[18:43:29] <rebag> "connect(2) call to /dev/shm/jack-1000/default/jack_0 failed "
[18:44:58] <Samya> the path is /etc/i3status.conf
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[19:22:34] <Samya> the wifi speed is all time at 144,4 Mb/s
[19:22:41] <Samya> does anybody know y?
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[19:48:14] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[19:48:47] <Samya> ok, thats not the speed
[19:49:00] <Samya> how can i display the speed in the i3status?
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[20:31:25] <Samya> how can i change the font size?
[20:35:12] <Samya> i mean the font size from the terminal
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[20:41:20] <truck-kun> read the manual for the TE you are using
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[21:01:50] <rebag> anyone ?
[21:03:04] <mcerb> anyone what? I just joined
[21:04:00] <mcerb> press up arrow a couple times then home and '/msg mcerb '
[21:05:11] <rebag> I can't start qjackctl any ideas ?
[21:05:18] <rebag> "connect(2) call to /dev/shm/jack-1000/default/jack_0 failed "
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[21:23:11] <mcerb> hmm
[21:24:34] <mcerb> is there an err= in there?
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[23:54:55] <yotux> xserver is crashing and upon reboot its going to last active KDE session
[23:55:24] <yotux> when I try to kill sddm system locks up, Root issue is an older Nvidia graphics card
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