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[00:23:11] <JohnBlood> mtn, works now
[00:23:16] <mtn> JohnBlood: nice
[00:23:21] <JohnBlood> I'm downloading Gunoint now
[00:23:29] <JohnBlood> GunPoint
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[00:23:50] <mtn> gunoint sounds good, too  ;)
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[00:48:54] <ringos> :)
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[00:59:47] <feras> I've mistakenly delete /90-mhwd.conf is there any way to generate a new one?
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[01:06:36] <Condor> ,g facebot how to
[01:06:58] <manj-1603-Lxde1> copy livecd conf file to that one
[01:07:06] <Condor> where is FatalException when you need him?? :/
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[01:07:27] <dodgejcr> nah, that file is generated
[01:07:29] <dodgejcr> by mhwd
[01:08:03] <dodgejcr> its hardware specific so probably just need to run mhwd-gpu or whatever part was responsible for that file
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[01:10:41] <feras> <dodgejcr> I run mhwd-gpu and still no chance, I think I'll copy it from the livecd
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[01:13:29] <dodgejcr> fair enought, hope it works. If not. I can probably look at the source and figure out how it is generated
[01:14:32] <feras> <dodgejcr> Thank you :)
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[01:16:30] <dodgejcr> oy feras: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   26 Jan 30 19:18 90-mhwd.conf -> /etc/X11/mhwd.d/intel.conf
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[01:19:16] <feras> I've deleted this file also "intel.conf". I'm having difficult time configuring a second screen resolution "Dell E1914H" connected to my laptop via VGA. the maximum resolution of the screen is 1366x768. I tried to add it and for some reason the screen get another resolution which is 1280x768
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[01:23:05] <dodgejcr> hrm, well then try to grab the one from live I suppose
[01:23:16] <feras> I'll :)
[01:24:41] <feras> Thank you :)
[01:25:59] <manj-1603-Lxde1> custom resolution http://askubuntu.com/questions/377937/how-to-set-a-custom-resolution
[01:28:29] <ringos> mmmm what is lsmod | grep tpm ?
[01:29:10] <feras> tpm_tis                20480  0
[01:29:10] <feras> tpm                    36864  1 tpm_tis
[01:29:55] <ringos> mmm https://youtu.be/cUqVHPyChQ0
[01:29:58] <feras> xrandr can't accept  1366 768. It keep change it to 1368x768
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[01:41:25] <manj-1603-Lxde1> xrandr --fb 1024x768 --output VGA
[01:41:48] <manj-1603-Lxde1> or forget about that 2 pixel
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[02:12:31] <danis> Hi averyone. I was updating my manjaro when the power went off at my home. I tried to updated again but pacman output says " Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y(148/148) checking keys in keyring warning: Public keyring not found; have you run 'pacman-key --init'?". I have tried to fixed it folowing all steps in this site https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Pacman_troubleshooting , but I couldn't. could anyone help me, please?
[02:14:08] <danis> http://pastebin.com/vtTDqN1i
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[02:18:21] <danis> I run pacman-key --init  and pacman output says ==> ERROR: Cannot find the gpg binary required for all pacman-key operations.
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[02:38:22] <madman_> I have Ubuntu and Manjaro side-by-side and when I use firefox hello on Ubuntu, I can go full screen, but I can't do the same in Manjaro. Can anyone help me?
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[03:15:15] <manj-1603-Lxde1> danis, you might want to post in on forum
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[03:19:15] <chaos_> hi
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[03:30:50] <ranu> Hello, the pamac looks very strange, the download speed of it is very low, has anyone has this problem?
[03:31:05] <ranu> And it is not my internet because the download speed here is rated at 12 MiB/s
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[03:33:28] <ArcticWolf> change /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
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[03:35:26] <ranu> Gonna check it out
[03:35:54] <ranu> Change what exactly?
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[03:37:04] <ArcticWolf> https://www.archlinux.org/mirrors/status/
[03:37:46] <ArcticWolf> find fast Mirror
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[03:47:50] <ranu> So the problem is not in my end, correct?
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[03:50:09] <ranu> Well ArcticWolf, those are not the official mirrors :-(
[03:51:42] <linux-user-rn> sudo pacman-mirrors -g should have the same effect
[03:52:10] <linux-user-rn> expect that it is with the offical repos
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[03:58:07] <ranu> Thank you, gonna try it in just a few minutes!
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[04:19:08] <linux-user-rn> I updated flash yesterday, I am just notising that firefox is still using the old version of flash. Has anyone had the same thing, or is there a way I can fix this?
[04:19:26] <linux-user-rn> I have tried restarting firefox.
[04:20:11] <linux_dream> not using flash here
[04:20:19] <linux_dream> as almost no website uses it
[04:20:27] <linux_dream> i use firefox
[04:20:42] <ArcticWolf> update flash in firefox?
[04:20:53] <linux-user-rn> same with firefox
[04:20:58] <Manj-1604-Lxqt2> guys, any good tool for google drive sync on manjaro?
[04:21:03] <linux_dream> firefox will block flash next year
[04:21:37] <linux-user-rn> flash is the new version.
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[04:22:30] <linux_dream> flash is doomed
[04:22:33] <linux-user-rn> I still have flash installed because I still find paged that run flash.
[04:22:35] <linux-user-rn> I agree
[04:23:24] <linux-user-rn> I think that they were admitting that when they droped linux support for new versions
[04:23:36] <linux_dream> yeah
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[04:23:49] <linux_dream> and apparently next year firefox will entirely block flash
[04:24:20] <linux-user-rn> wow that seems like a steep in the right derition
[04:24:42] <linux-user-rn> force developers to get flash out of there websites
[04:24:49] <linux-user-rn> I meen that in a good way
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[04:25:07] <linux_dream> honestly i don't think they care about FF users
[04:25:17] <linux_dream> they are like what, less than 10% of people
[04:25:32] <linux-user-rn> firefox?
[04:25:36] <linux_dream> yeah
[04:25:55] <linux_dream> it's about 15% of desktop pc's using it.   but smartphones don't use it as much
[04:26:04] <linux_dream> so in total it's close to 10% I guess
[04:26:24] <linux_dream> I personally use it but I know it's not the majority that uses it
[04:26:46] <linux-user-rn> I think some of the mobile platforms have completeily droped flash
[04:27:21] <linux-user-rn> I use firefox aswell
[04:27:23] <linux_dream> may i ask why do you want to use flash
[04:27:34] <linux_dream> i dont have flash installed and have no problem
[04:27:58] <linux_dream> i can watch youtube without flash.  facebook videos with mpv
[04:28:08] <linux_dream> i didn't find a single website where flash is needed
[04:28:15] <linux-user-rn> do you use any flash/html5 plugins installed
[04:28:25] <linux_dream> no plugin
[04:28:34] <linux_dream> but html5 is enabled by default i guess
[04:28:57] <linux-user-rn> http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com uses flash
[04:29:03] <linux_dream> anyway i block videos from youtube with noscript and umatrix, i only use mpv to watch videos.  but i could use FF
[04:29:36] <linux_dream> just clicked on your link and picked a video, it redirects to youtube
[04:29:39] <linux_dream> so i can watch it
[04:29:42] <linux_dream> no flash
[04:29:54] <ArcticWolf> http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/  i can play whitout flash
[04:30:14] <linux_dream> yeah flash not needed
[04:30:18] <linux-user-rn> parts of there site uses flash for the live streem
[04:30:34] <linux_dream> gimme link please
[04:30:36] <linux_dream> so i can test
[04:31:34] <linux-user-rn> http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/live/popout.html
[04:32:30] <linux-user-rn> ok I guess I should stop defending flash because it flash sucks
[04:32:45] <ArcticWolf> Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
[04:32:49] <linux_dream> ok i can't watch the video
[04:32:54] <linux_dream> ^^ point taken
[04:33:00] <ArcticWolf> my firefox Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
[04:34:07] <ranu> Even trying what you have said linux-user-rn the pamac is still very slow
[04:34:35] <linux-user-rn> on the other hand they allow live streaming through a nating application using rtsp, rtmp, or hls.
[04:34:36] <ranu> Although in the time remaining it says a very low value like 10 minutes for 300 MiB
[04:35:02] <ArcticWolf> set you local mirrors@ranu
[04:36:07] <linux-user-rn> ranu: have you done a speed test on your internt?
[04:36:07] <ranu> How do I do tht ArcticWolf?
[04:36:13] <ranu> Yes linux-user-rn
[04:36:37] <ranu> Would you like to see a pic?
[04:36:51] <linux_dream> a pic of what????
[04:36:59] <ranu> Of the internet test result
[04:37:04] <linux_dream> oh
[04:37:07] <linux_dream> why not
[04:37:27] <ranu> Just re-doing the test, just a minute
[04:37:46] <ArcticWolf> example,i use http://mirrors.ustc.edu.cn in china @ranu
[04:38:54] <ArcticWolf> you can google some local mirrors,,,,,,my english is bad
[04:39:18] <bugzbunny> Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa, not a single website without flash
[04:39:23] <bugzbunny> Bologna!!!!
[04:40:20] <ranu> Thanks for the recomendation ArcticWolf, by the way, you comment out other mirrors providers in /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist?
[04:40:32] <bugzbunny> linux-user-rn: Firefox looks for flash in specific places, what does about:plugins say about the path for Flash? And where is the new version located?
[04:41:49] <linux-user-rn> I have no clue. I is the flashplugin package in the defale repos.
[04:41:54] <bugzbunny> Firefox is dropping support for NPAPI, not blocking Flash, although Firefox has stated it may continue to support Flash after 2016.....
[04:42:04] <bugzbunny> linux-user-rn: Did you look at about:plugins?
[04:42:09] <ArcticWolf> set on the top,it's ok @ranu
[04:42:10] <linux-user-rn> yes
[04:42:21] <ranu> Ok, thank you ArcticWolf
[04:42:22] <bugzbunny> Where path is it pointing to?
[04:42:32] <linux-user-rn> it only gives a file name
[04:42:39] <linux-user-rn> am I missing somepthing
[04:44:02] <bugzbunny> SO it's nothing like Path: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libvlcplugin.so for example? Perhaps checking in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins?
[04:44:52] <linux-user-rn> no I am cerintly trying to find the file using ls -aR | less and then searching for the file name
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[04:45:21] <bugzbunny> Have you tried with a new Firefox Profile?
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[04:46:33] <linux-user-rn> libflashplayer.so is the file firefox is using and it is in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
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[04:46:53] <linux-user-rn> checking the files owned py the flash package
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[04:48:09] <linux-user-rn> I see a file at /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so which is what I think firefox is looking for
[04:49:10] <linux-user-rn> on the other hand mabey I should just drop flash and figgure out how to use the websites that still use it
[04:49:35] * bugzbunny uses Chrome based browsers for Flash content
[04:49:48] <linux-user-rn> ok
[04:50:45] <bugzbunny> The flash is builtin and stays up2date automatically
[04:51:52] <linux-user-rn> I just tryed uninstalling flash and reinstalling it, no luck, although firefox could see that it got removed then got installed.
[04:52:18] <linux-user-rn> I am going to just drop it.
[04:53:32] <linux-user-rn> you can subtract one from the number of people using flash.
[04:54:24] <linux-user-rn> good nite
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[05:11:30] <ranu> Now the update manager is fast, did a reboot here :-)
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[07:40:38] <CountryfiedLinux> good morning
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[09:13:17] <Romanjaro> hi guys! How to set up KDE activities? I have only "Folder" and "Default desktop" in the settings.
[09:14:03] <Romanjaro> Where are "Newsreader" and other activities?)) Thank you for help
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[09:38:49] <superbia1> Romanjaro: i would bet you need to install like plugins/extras
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[09:58:34] <Romanjaro> superbia1: i think so too) but plugins seemsto be installed)
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[10:59:01] <soumitri> Hi All, today I installed Linux 47 kernel on my Manjaro XFCE system. Before the update my lowest screen brightness was quite low, but it was perfect for bed time use. But now on this 47 kernel, it's extreemly low, I can barely see anything. How can I fix this. I will greatly appriceate any help. Thanks
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[10:59:48] <soumitri> PS : I am using a lenovo laptop, the backlight is controlled by intel and I use the bightness hot keys to control the brightness
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[11:01:35] <soumitri> any help?
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[11:03:52] <soumitri> ?
[11:05:34] <ringos> hi
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[11:11:33] <soumitri> ?
[11:13:30] <ringos> ?
[11:13:36] * bugzbunny looks at ringos :|
[11:13:56] <ringos> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X1_Carbon#Brightness_control
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[11:15:15] <GeneL> any good light weight laptop for manjaro?
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[11:17:31] <Lowl3v3l> GeneL, pretty simple to find one. just choose one without all the chipsets made by asshole-companies like broadcom. Then take one without amazingly special hardware features like some new keys or stuff... and you are ready to go^^
[11:19:16] <GeneL> Lowl3v3l from what I heard lenovo laptops are the best for linux?
[11:19:38] <ringos> just pick the time :)
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[11:20:28] <Lowl3v3l> GeneL, yes and no. Business-stuff is pretty awesome, with some of the consumer notebooks there are problems like really buggy uefi implementations, cheap chipsets( broadcom)...
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[11:21:33] <GeneL> Lowl3v3l, ohh.. what do you think about the latest Dell 13 Business class laptop?
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[11:22:12] <Lowl3v3l> GeneL, dont know and i am not necessarily an expert on the matter^^
[11:22:38] <GeneL> Lowl3v3l, thanks for the info :)
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[11:29:29] <soumitri> Lowl3v3l, thanks, but could not find anything
[11:30:02] <soumitri> can you tell me how can I change the increment / decrement value for brightness
[11:30:28] <Lowl3v3l> soumitri, nope and thats why i did not answer to your question^^
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[11:30:56] <bigwhale99> hi all
[11:31:01] <soumitri> no issues, Thanks :)
[11:31:04] <bigwhale99> does anyone know how to install caffe with manjaro?
[11:31:26] <ringos> !aur caffe
[11:31:28] <bigwhale99> there's an installation from AUR but I cant seem to use it
[11:31:30] <ringos> mmmm
[11:31:42] <bigwhale99> as in once I downloaded it I'm not sure how I can use caffe
[11:31:49] <bigwhale99> i used catfish search on the file system
[11:31:56] <bigwhale99> but the bulk of the caffe files seem to be missing...
[11:32:31] <bigwhale99> Is it correct if I download caffe-git in yaourt?
[11:33:06] <bigwhale99> how do I also ensure the GPU gets used in caffe? I think I'm missing some NVIDIA driver but I can't confirm it, I thought so since theano didn't use the GPU..
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[11:40:02] <soumitri> does anyone know, how to make the terminal shake a little, if we reached the end of a directory and we are still pressing tab ?
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[11:53:06] <chaos7theory> Besides Gnome & Cinnamon, what other DEs have good HiDPI support?
[11:53:23] <chaos7theory> I'd use Cinnamon but it refuses to not run in software emulation mode under VirtualBox
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[12:03:03] <marz> hi... having an issue with the software updater :( ... shows me this when it opens http://i.imgur.com/XbARtaW.png
[12:04:49] <chaos7theory> I tend to fix that with this solution https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/pacman#.22Failed_to_init_transaction_.28unable_to_lock_database.29.22_error
[12:04:57] <chaos7theory> You have to run it as root / sudo
[12:05:45] <marz> worked :+1:
[12:05:56] <marz> thanks you :)
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[12:22:06] <manjarot> hello guys, how to change touchpad driver from libinput to synaptics?
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[12:23:41] <turbonoob202> hi guys, just installed manjaro and I can't get to the terminal, I know what is the problem, system locale, ctrl+alt+Fx leads me to the black screen
[12:23:55] <turbonoob202> any way to go to terminal?
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[12:25:53] <manj-1603-Lxde1> alt ctrl f2
[12:26:07] <turbonoob202> thanks, but that leads me to the black screen :(
[12:26:29] <turbonoob202> no tty displayed
[12:26:43] <manj-1603-Lxde1> alt+scrolllock+b to restart
[12:26:57] <turbonoob202> oh thanks, will try now
[12:27:59] <manjarot> how to change touchpad driver from libinput to synaptics?
[12:28:29] <turbonoob202> nope manj 1603, same thing
[12:28:36] <turbonoob202> black screen no tty
[12:28:51] <manjarot> when i touch the pad the cursor is shaking
[12:29:04] <turbonoob202> all i need to do is to change locale and terminal will work, i know that because I had same problem witha rch
[12:29:15] <manj-1603-Lxde1> my bad, alt+sysRq+b to restart
[12:29:32] <turbonoob202> oh lol, ok thanks, i saw nothing happens :)
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[12:33:16] <manj-1603-Lxde1> sorry, not sure the current situation
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[12:33:37] <manj-1603-Lxde1> manjarot, did you read the arch wiki
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[12:35:12] <turbonoob202> well, that didnćt do anzthing, it restarted mz computer and I ended up in the same problem, instead of ttz i get black screen, I can alwazs go back with alt-ctrl+f2 but i canćta ccess anz terminal to fix the problem
[12:35:23] <turbonoob202> xterm works, but it isnćt installed bz default
[12:36:00] <turbonoob202> im new to manjaro, is there any software installed where i can install xterm without terminal?
[12:36:33] <manj-1603-Lxde1> do you login to the terminal
[12:36:41] <turbonoob202> no
[12:36:53] <manj-1603-Lxde1> you need to do that
[12:37:00] <turbonoob202> how?
[12:37:05] <manj-1603-Lxde1> root
[12:37:12] <manj-1603-Lxde1> and password
[12:37:39] <turbonoob202> I'm sorry, I guess my english is bad, i can't access terminal at all
[12:37:50] <turbonoob202> it simply does not want to open
[12:39:15] <manj-1603-Lxde1> still black screen
[12:39:17] <manj-1603-Lxde1> ?
[12:39:54] <manj-1603-Lxde1> not sure which verison you are using
[12:40:01] <turbonoob202> yes, if i open normal terminal, nothing happens, if i try ctrl+alt+f2 (or any) it goes into black screen
[12:40:12] <turbonoob202> my bad i should have said it is Gnome
[12:40:37] <turbonoob202> it is known problem, but on arch i can kill X and run tty, here it won't let me
[12:41:22] <turbonoob202> I'm jsut looking trough the menu in hope there is some software center so i can install xterm
[12:42:06] <manj-1603-Lxde1> ok, system tool > add/remove software
[12:42:37] <manj-1603-Lxde1> i thought your screen is just black
[12:43:32] <turbonoob202> it is black when i try to run tty, there is no software app at all, i guess i will just have to install manjaro on english and change locale manually
[12:44:02] <turbonoob202> thanks for help manj-1603, i will report the bug i guess
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[12:45:39] <manj-1603-Lxde1> alt - f1 to go back to gui. bye
[12:46:00] <turbonoob202> yeah, thanks cya
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[14:17:15] <reloafaa> hi people
[14:17:25] <reloafaa> is play on linux the same as wine???
[14:18:11] <superbia1> it is like GUI for wine
[14:18:41] <superbia1> so you can use it and if it works you don't have to fiddle with wine itself
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[14:22:38] <reloafaa> superbia1: i cant install any games, i dont have windows games already??
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[14:50:53] <Spec-Chum> Hey, LTNS :)
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[15:48:38] <bigwhale99> hi all
[15:48:54] <bigwhale99> if let's say i have a library (caffe) that is not compiled
[15:49:06] <bigwhale99> meaning if I were to import it in my python file it wouldn't work right?
[15:49:17] <bigwhale99> I have installed Caffe from AUR but I can't seem to import it in python
[15:49:22] <bigwhale99> Does anyone know how to fix this?
[15:50:15] <linux_dream> dunno, but IMO should not need to compile it
[15:50:30] <linux_dream> when   i install numpy, sci-py and stuff like that, I just import them and it works right out of the box
[15:50:43] <linux_dream> maybe it got installed into a weird directory that python doesn't check
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[16:03:27] <peaveyman> Can anyone tell me why the kde clipboard utility klipper is starting up with gnome?
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[16:36:08] <ringos> peaveyman, hi
[16:36:22] <peaveyman> ringos: Howdy
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[16:36:40] <ringos> i have no qt so dont kno :p
[16:37:35] <peaveyman> I put a forum post up, maybe someone will know
[16:38:05] <peaveyman> Evidently klipper has been moved into the plasma process and I think that's part of the problem
[16:38:46] <ringos> pacman -Ss shows no klipper lol
[16:38:52] <ringos> only in aur
[16:40:14] <peaveyman> Yep, it's embedded in plasma
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[16:42:24] <ringos> have you looked in autostart?
[16:42:33] <ringos> its a natural KDE setting?
[16:42:52] <peaveyman> Looking now
[16:43:09] <peaveyman> ~/.config/autostart ?
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[16:44:31] <ringos> could
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[16:44:46] <ringos> or /etc/xdg/autostart
[16:44:55] <ringos> or just somewhere in the KDE  settings?
[16:45:28] <peaveyman> I'm still digging
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[16:46:19] <peaveyman> Nothing in the first one
[16:46:42] <peaveyman> It irritaes me that it is running on gnome
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[16:55:47] <ringos> pacman -Qs gnome-desktop ?
[16:56:22] <peaveyman> local/gnome-desktop 1:3.20.2-1 (gnome)
[16:58:56] <peaveyman> ringos: what am I looking for with that command
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[17:16:31] <manjaro-web|8581> after update i have problem with audio ,, i dont have any sound ??
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[17:17:50] <mtn> manjaro-web|8581: have you tried fixing your settings using pavucontrol?
[17:18:02] <manjaro-web|8581> no
[17:18:23] <mtn> manjaro-web|8581: Check sound levels and devices in Output and Configuration tabs.
[17:19:14] <peaveyman> ringos
[17:19:16] <manjaro-web|8581> i lost also windows decoration so i undergrade  using this>> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/after-update-i-ve-lost-window-decorations-and-cant-get-them-back/6496/2
[17:19:29] <manjaro-web|8581> it back again
[17:19:38] <manjaro-web|8581> but sound no
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[17:21:52] <ringos> peaveyman,
[17:22:11] <ringos> pacman -Qi gnome-desktop mayby you see parts it needed?
[17:22:27] <manjaro-web|8581> @mtn see that >>  https://postimg.org/image/r28k1ec6v/
[17:22:29] <peaveyman> I booted into gnome. Klipper is running. Would the process info help in discovering why it's starting in gnome
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[17:23:18] <mtn> manjaro-web|8581: what connection/device should you be using?
[17:23:47] <mtn> manjaro-web|8581: and what about the config tab?
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[17:29:11] <manjaro-web|8581> device ??? you mean speaker ?!
[17:29:14] <peaveyman> ringos: I fixed it. Installed gnome-session-properties from the AUR and it shows klipper as a startup program
[17:29:22] <manjaro-web|8581> config tab >>. https://postimg.org/image/j5wwcdq4x/
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[17:29:51] <mtn> manjaro-web|8581: what it is calling a profile, is actually a device. is it the right one?
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[17:31:36] <manjaro-web|8581> dont know
[17:31:40] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[17:32:46] <manjaro-web|8581> mtn  dont know
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[17:33:00] <mtn> manjaro-web|8581: me either, and I am not even at your computer  ;)
[17:33:19] <mtn> manjaro-web|8581: maybe test them and see?
[17:33:44] <mtn> manjaro-web|8581: do you know what hdmi means
[17:34:18] <manjaro-web|8581> at config  tab , up or down prrofile ??
[17:34:33] <Spec-Chum> hey ringos
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[17:37:59] <dobegor> hi
[17:38:16] <dobegor> is 4.7 kernel is in the MHWD?
[17:38:42] <mtn> dobegor: you aren't  running manjaro?
[17:38:45] <dobegor> I wonder if I can switch to Manjaro linux from OEM-installed Windows on Skylake-based laptop
[17:38:57] <dobegor> 4.7 has the patches
[17:39:16] <dobegor> can't check it on windows, kernels are out of manjaro packages list
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[17:39:36] <mtn> dobegor: yes, it is there
[17:39:57] <dobegor> mtn: thanks, then I'm good to go with installing it
[17:40:21] <dobegor> btw, I have one question about sound I don't know how to google
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[17:40:45] <dobegor> I have a sound mute button (XF86_something) and a corresponding LED
[17:40:50] <ringos> peaveyman, ok :)
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[17:40:55] <ringos> he Spec-Chum
[17:41:01] <ringos> CountryfiedLinux, !
[17:41:15] <dobegor> it works fine in GNOME edition, but doesn't work at all in i3
[17:41:51] <dodgejcr> you usually have to manually configure that kind of stuff dobegor
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[17:42:39] <dobegor> dodgejcr: where should I start from? both editions are running pulseaudio and both have thinkpad-related stuff installed
[17:43:07] <dodgejcr> well, you would start with the i3 config and set keybindings
[17:43:27] <dobegor> and what about LED controlling?
[17:43:29] <dodgejcr> with the xf86AudioMute to run whatever you need
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[17:43:55] <dobegor> micmute*, not sound mute, sorry
[17:44:00] <manjaro-web|8059> mtn
[17:44:10] <dodgejcr> should be the same process really
[17:44:22] <dobegor> that's why I am asking, thinkpad-acpi module doesn't let me control micmute LED
[17:44:30] <dobegor> but GNOME edition somehow does this
[17:44:35] <dodgejcr> hrm
[17:44:43] <dobegor> and I wonder how
[17:44:47] <dodgejcr> does the button work but not the led?
[17:44:48] <manjaro-web|8059> i open my pc with cd live there is sound and the optins is was same
[17:44:49] <bugzbunny> lol, for a minuter there, I though dodgejcr was talking to himself
[17:45:03] <Kranix> Can I remove Xine at all? I have other, much better media players installed, but when I try to uninstall, 195 other packages seem to depend on it.
[17:45:05] * bugzbunny >.>
[17:45:08] <dobegor> dodgejcr: in GNOME both mute function and LED, in i3 - neither of them
[17:45:11] <dodgejcr> lol bugzbunny wouldnt be the forst time
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[17:45:22] <bugzbunny> :)
[17:45:33] <dodgejcr> dobegor: start by getting the button working. It may be affixed by hw to run the lite
[17:45:35] <dodgejcr> light*
[17:45:40] <mtn> manjaro-web|8059: maybe check out the forums, there have been others talking about the same thing
[17:46:20] <dobegor> dodgejcr: that's what I thought. but the pulseaudio mutes the mic in a SW way
[17:46:21] <Kranix> Never mind, Octopi just glitched.
[17:46:43] <dobegor> thanks for the advice anyway, needs to be investigated more
[17:47:07] <dodgejcr> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1422622#p1422622 dobegor
[17:47:16] <mihaim3> hi everyone! I am installing Manjaro, usint Thus, and want to use an existing Arch partition with LUKS. if I use it, and check the LUKS encryption option, addnig its key, will it actually just decrypt it to mount, once Manjaro is running, or will it encrypt it once more?
[17:47:21] <mihaim3> *using
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[17:47:46] <mihaim3> (note: I am using the Arch partition separately, mounting it in /media)
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[17:48:15] <dobegor> dodgejcr: oh thanks, I should have found this earlier.
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[17:49:58] <dodgejcr> also dobegor https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125565
[17:50:04] <dodgejcr> that is for some led work
[17:50:30] <dobegor> that's about HP laptop
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[17:50:36] <dodgejcr> but the process is the same
[17:50:52] <dodgejcr> if the led devices exist, check there
[17:51:00] <dobegor> there is a /proc device exposed by thinkpad-acpi module
[17:51:15] <dobegor> I can even control the Power LED, but just not the mic one
[17:51:39] <dodgejcr> strange
[17:51:47] <dodgejcr> usually if you have that one, the others show up
[17:52:11] <dobegor> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/301529
[17:52:23] <dobegor> I can't find out if that patch was rejected or not
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[17:54:51] <dobegor> dodgejcr: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1384712#p1384712 <-- the same problem I faced
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[18:25:03] <CountryfiedLinux> hey ringos
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[18:50:39] <real_gamer> anyone online?
[18:50:44] <real_gamer> say??????????????/
[18:51:22] <linux-user-rn> I depends on what you need
[18:51:39] <real_gamer> i want some help can u?
[18:51:56] <real_gamer> my docky is not workin?
[18:52:10] <real_gamer> in tried wid terminal
[18:52:21] <real_gamer> error coming
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[18:52:31] <real_gamer> u gone??'
[18:52:45] <linux-user-rn> I don't use docky but maby I can help.
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[18:52:57] <linux-user-rn> what is the error?
[18:53:09] <real_gamer> pastebin?
[18:53:17] <linux-user-rn> ok
[18:53:27] <real_gamer> http://pastebin.com/McXEuSbH
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[18:53:38] <real_gamer> heres the error
[18:53:48] <real_gamer> i think some dbus problem
[18:56:01] <real_gamer> hlo?
[18:56:08] <real_gamer> saw the error?
[18:56:10] <linux-user-rn> I have no idiea, mabey someone else here uses docky. have you searched online?
[18:56:20] <real_gamer> ya i searched
[18:56:24] <real_gamer> no help
[18:56:27] <real_gamer> frm ther
[18:56:37] <real_gamer> btw thnx bro
[18:56:56] <linux-user-rn> no problem sarry I couldn't help
[18:57:24] <real_gamer> no problem bro thnx for giving ur time bye nd thnx once again
[18:57:27] <real_gamer> bye bro
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[18:57:52] <real_gamer> u hv manjaro xfce??
[18:58:13] <linux-user-rn> just thinking could you try an alternitive to docky?
[18:58:23] <linux-user-rn> yes I do
[18:58:24] <real_gamer> what u hv now?
[18:58:26] <real_gamer> ok
[18:58:33] <real_gamer> then search for docky
[18:58:41] <linux-user-rn> ?
[18:58:42] <real_gamer> see if itis workin on u
[18:58:49] <linux-user-rn> ok
[18:58:49] <real_gamer> search on menu
[18:58:56] <real_gamer> or terminal
[18:59:09] <linux-user-rn> I am
[18:59:17] <real_gamer> u did?
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[18:59:26] <real_gamer> so howz it?
[18:59:41] <linux-user-rn> one minute
[18:59:41] <real_gamer> dock is the best thing in linux
[18:59:48] <real_gamer> ohk take ur time
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[19:02:02] <linux-user-rn> mabey more than a minute I have slow internet
[19:02:02] <linux-user-rn> how big was the install for you?
[19:02:14] <real_gamer> not that big
[19:02:23] <real_gamer> contents are pre downloaded
[19:02:29] <real_gamer> it will update
[19:02:35] <linux-user-rn> 40 mib?
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[19:03:31] <real_gamer> 3 mib for update lol
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[19:05:21] <real_gamer> hey hey hey
[19:05:26] <real_gamer> listen
[19:05:58] <alekzanther> real_gamer, no, dock is not the best thing with linux
[19:06:19] <real_gamer> i just did i dnt knwo what i did but now its showin  DBus could not be found and is required by Docky. Exiting.
[19:06:30] <linux-user-rn> does docky start for you?
[19:06:43] <real_gamer> who?
[19:06:54] <real_gamer> now what to do wid dbus?
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[19:07:07] <real_gamer> like hoe to install or download
[19:07:36] <linux-user-rn> does docky start for you?
[19:08:08] <real_gamer> yaa first it was my fav. thing
[19:08:23] <real_gamer> now i dnt know my sis did somethimg in it
[19:08:28] <real_gamer> now not workin
[19:08:51] <real_gamer> now?
[19:08:55] <real_gamer> ur worked?
[19:09:05] <real_gamer> ?
[19:09:05] <linux-user-rn> yes
[19:09:11] <real_gamer> howz it?
[19:09:18] <real_gamer> i loved it man cool look
[19:09:28] <real_gamer> what u did ?
[19:09:59] <real_gamer> hlo?
[19:10:48] <linux-user-rn> I think it could be the configuration.
[19:11:04] <real_gamer> ok say frm the begining]
[19:11:09] <real_gamer> what u did?
[19:11:15] <real_gamer> step by step
[19:11:33] <linux-user-rn> all I did was install it
[19:11:40] <real_gamer> frm where?
[19:11:48] <real_gamer> yaourt?
[19:11:57] <linux-user-rn> did you have any configuration you want to keep
[19:11:59] <linux-user-rn> pacman
[19:12:19] <linux-user-rn> using sudo pacman -S docky
[19:12:24] <real_gamer> ohh
[19:12:36] <real_gamer> when i use this it shows me dbus error
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[19:14:08] <real_gamer> [krishna@k ~]$ sudo -S docky
[19:14:08] <real_gamer> [Info  22:38:38.293] Docky version: 2.2.1.1 Release
[19:14:08] <real_gamer> [Info  22:38:38.297] Kernel version: 4.4.13.1
[19:14:08] <real_gamer> [Info  22:38:38.297] CLR version: 4.0.30319.42000
[19:14:08] <real_gamer> [krishna@k ~]$ sudo -S docky
[19:14:09] <real_gamer> [Info  22:38:38.293] Docky version: 2.2.1.1 Release
[19:14:09] <real_gamer> [Info  22:38:38.297] Kernel version: 4.4.13.1
[19:14:10] <real_gamer> [Info  22:38:38.297] CLR version: 4.0.30319.42000
[19:14:10] <real_gamer> [krishna@k ~]$ sudo -S docky
[19:14:11] <real_gamer> [Info  22:38:38.293] Docky version: 2.2.1.1 Release
[19:14:11] <real_gamer> [Info  22:38:38.297] Kernel version: 4.4.13.1
[19:14:12] <real_gamer> [Info  22:38:38.297] CLR version: 4.0.30319.42000
[19:14:12] <real_gamer> [krishna@k ~]$ sudo -S docky
[19:14:13] <real_gamer> [Info  22:38:38.293] Docky version: 2.2.1.1 Release
[19:14:23] <linux-user-rn> what happens if you delete ~/.cache/docky ~/.config/gconf/apps/docky-2 and ~/.local/share/docky
[19:15:03] <linux-user-rn> you missed the pacman, it should be sudo pacman -S docky
[19:15:06] <real_gamer> command not found lol
[19:15:16] <linux-user-rn> which one
[19:15:59] <real_gamer> [krishna@k ~]$ sudo pacman -S docky
[19:15:59] <real_gamer> [sudo] password for krishna:
[19:15:59] <real_gamer> warning: docky-2.2.1.1-2 is up to date -- reinstalling
[19:15:59] <real_gamer> resolving dependencies...
[19:15:59] <real_gamer> looking for conflicting packages...
[19:15:59] <real_gamer> Packages (1) docky-2.2.1.1-2
[19:15:59] <real_gamer> Total Installed Size:  3.01 MiB
[19:16:00] <real_gamer> Net Upgrade Size:      0.00 MiB
[19:16:00] <real_gamer> :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
[19:16:01] <real_gamer> (1/1) checking keys in keyring                                                            [####################################################] 100%
[19:16:01] <real_gamer> (1/1) checking package integrity                                                          [####################################################] 100%
[19:16:02] <real_gamer> (1/1) loading package files                                                               [####################################################] 100%
[19:16:02] <real_gamer> (1/1) checking for file conflicts                                                         [####################################################] 100%
[19:16:03] <real_gamer> (1/1) checking available disk space                                                       [####################################################] 100%
[19:16:15] <real_gamer> now the same eroor
[19:16:16] <bugzbunny> spam alert
[19:16:17] <real_gamer> error
[19:16:22] <bugzbunny> my desktop lit up with messages
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[19:16:30] <real_gamer> lol
[19:16:52] <linux-user-rn> did you delete ~/.cache/docky ~/.config/gconf/apps/docky-2 and ~/.local/share/docky
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[19:17:01] <real_gamer> how?
[19:17:23] <linux-user-rn> rm -r ~/.cache/docky ~/.config/gconf/apps/docky-2 ~/.local/share/docky
[19:17:28] <real_gamer> rns?
[19:17:51] <real_gamer> nothing happened
[19:18:25] <linux-user-rn> is there any out put when you run ls -aR | grep docky
[19:18:32] <real_gamer> Set MONO_CAIRO_DEBUG_DISPOSE to track allocation traces
[19:18:37] <real_gamer> now ?
[19:19:15] <real_gamer> theres a long output now but not ended yet?
[19:19:34] <real_gamer> do i hv to interrupt it or somethin?
[19:19:49] <linux-user-rn> are you in your home derictory?
[19:20:07] <real_gamer> Cairo.Surface is leaking, programmer is missing a call to Dispose
[19:20:07] <real_gamer> Set MONO_CAIRO_DEBUG_DISPOSE to track allocation traces
[19:20:11] <real_gamer> whats this ??
[19:20:36] <linux-user-rn> probley just randome output
[19:21:03] <real_gamer> nthng is happeneing
[19:21:11] <real_gamer> should i interrupt now
[19:21:14] <real_gamer> ??
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[19:21:40] <linux-user-rn> can you open a terminal and run rm -r ~/.cache/docky ~/.config/gconf/apps/docky-2 ~/.local/share/docky
[19:21:48] <real_gamer> i did
[19:21:52] <linux-user-rn> you should do it as your user
[19:21:59] <linux-user-rn> ok
[19:22:02] <real_gamer> i google the MONO_CAIRO_DEBUG_DISPOSE and   its showin more
[19:22:49] <real_gamer> [krishna@k ~]$ rm -r ~/.cache/docky ~/.config/gconf/apps/docky-2 ~/.local/share/docky
[19:22:49] <real_gamer> rm: cannot remove '/home/krishna/.cache/docky': No such file or directory
[19:22:49] <real_gamer> rm: cannot remove '/home/krishna/.config/gconf/apps/docky-2': No such file or directory
[19:22:49] <real_gamer> rm: cannot remove '/home/krishna/.local/share/docky': No such file or directory
[19:23:03] <linux-user-rn> can you past the output you got when you ran ls -aR | grep docky
[19:23:06] <linux-user-rn> ok
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[19:23:26] <real_gamer> la -ar??
[19:23:29] <real_gamer> i didnt
[19:23:37] <linux-user-rn> pash it to a web site
[19:23:57] <linux-user-rn> ls -aR | grep docky
[19:24:10] <real_gamer> [krishna@k ~]$ ls -aR | grep docky
[19:24:10] <real_gamer> docky.desktop
[19:24:10] <real_gamer> docky.desktop
[19:24:10] <real_gamer> docky.xml
[19:24:10] <real_gamer> docky.svg
[19:24:10] <real_gamer> docky.svg
[19:24:10] <real_gamer> docky.desktop
[19:24:20] <real_gamer> this is the output in the terminal
[19:24:25] <linux-user-rn> that is ok
[19:24:45] <real_gamer> its red font
[19:24:45] <linux-user-rn> what happens when you run docky
[19:25:01] <real_gamer> one min i will make a pastebin url
[19:25:05] <linux-user-rn> that is because grep found it
[19:25:40] <linux-user-rn> it is greps way of saying I found it
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[19:26:56] <real_gamer> bro i interrupted the mono one
[19:27:15] <real_gamer> so in pastebin the last 'c' is frm me
[19:27:39] <real_gamer> http://pastebin.com/VU5Ckxp9
[19:27:46] <real_gamer> this is comin]
[19:28:39] <real_gamer> i googled it
[19:28:47] <real_gamer> showin a bug
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[19:29:26] <linux-user-rn> so docky isn't starting?
[19:29:35] <real_gamer> yup
[19:29:50] <real_gamer> just showin that mono leaked something
[19:30:23] <linux-user-rn> are there any fixes to the bug you found
[19:30:34] <real_gamer> no
[19:31:00] <real_gamer> one user said this : Changed in docky (Ubuntu):
[19:31:00] <real_gamer> status:  New → Confirmed
[19:31:15] <real_gamer> idk what this means
[19:31:34] <linux-user-rn> ok someone else has had the problem on ubuntu
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[19:32:09] <linux-user-rn> try a different dock, possibilt search for somepthing like docks for linux
[19:32:21] <real_gamer> i tried
[19:32:25] <real_gamer> i found nthng
[19:33:40] <linux-user-rn> try plank, sudo pacman -S plank
[19:34:12] <real_gamer> i m tryin cairo-dock
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[19:34:20] <real_gamer> installing now
[19:34:26] <real_gamer> u used plank?
[19:34:52] <linux-user-rn> no but I think it mite work, I don't usally use a dock
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[19:35:41] <real_gamer> oh ohk
[19:35:44] <real_gamer> thnks man
[19:35:50] <linux-user-rn> did it work
[19:35:53] <real_gamer> i appriciate ur help
[19:36:09] <manjaro-web|2396> does anybody fix problem of sound after update ??? #help
[19:36:14] <real_gamer> np  bt u gave time ya plank will work i wil try it
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[19:37:03] <real_gamer> [krishna@k ~]$ cairo-dock
[19:37:03] <real_gamer> warning :  (/build/cairo-dock/src/cairo-dock-core-3.4.1/src/implementations/cairo-dock-egl.c:gldi_register_egl_backend:232)
[19:37:03] <real_gamer>   Cairo-Dock was not built with EGL support
[19:37:03] <real_gamer> warning :  (/build/cairo-dock/src/cairo-dock-core-3.4.1/src/implementations/cairo-dock-glx.c:_initialize_opengl_backend:129)
[19:37:03] <real_gamer>   couldn't find an appropriate visual, trying to get one without Stencil buffer
[19:37:03] <real_gamer> (it may cause some little deterioration in the rendering) ...
[19:37:03] <real_gamer>  ============================================================================
[19:37:04] <real_gamer>  Cairo-Dock version : 3.4.1
[19:37:04] <real_gamer>  Compiled date      : May 18 2015 12:32:11
[19:37:05] <real_gamer>  Built with GTK     : 3.16
[19:37:05] <real_gamer>  Running with OpenGL: 1
[19:37:06] <real_gamer>  ============================================================================
[19:37:06] <real_gamer> Theme parsing error: <data>:7:1467: The :insensitive pseudo-class is deprecated. Use :disabled instead.
[19:37:07] <real_gamer> Theme parsing error: <data>:7:3649: The :inconsistent pseudo-class is deprecated. Use :indeterminate instead.
[19:38:25] <real_gamer> it worked lol
[19:38:27] <real_gamer> noc
[19:38:31] <real_gamer> bye thnx
[19:38:38] <linux-user-rn> no problem
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[19:39:43] <manjaro-web|2396> does anybody fix problem of sound after update ??? #help
[19:41:13] <Klaatu> guys who's good with the find command
[19:41:42] <Klaatu> im trying to delete all files with a certain name from a directly with many subdirectories
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[19:42:23] <Klaatu> find . -name GO TREASURE!.url -exec rm -rf {} \;  <--- not workin, what am i doing wrong
[19:42:29] <Klaatu> O_o
[19:44:07] <Klaatu> ok i found that if i just type "*.url" after -name is works :D
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[19:44:54] <manjaro-web|2396> does anybody fix problem of sound after update ??? #help
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[19:47:10] <Klaatu> when did you update
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[19:52:10] <manjaro-web|2396> 2days ago
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[19:53:55] <Klaatu> i did too but sound still works :/, likely hardware specific
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[19:54:48] <Klaatu> the last update made VMware 12.0 unlaunchable
[19:55:03] <Klaatu> but 12.1 works so i just installed that
[19:56:05] <manjaro-web|2396> i look at Forum and found this problem see >>> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/no-audio-after-update-establishing-connection-to-pulse-audio-please-wait/6556
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[20:20:23] <MrPig> ho
[20:20:28] <MrPig> *hi
[20:22:20] <tpot> can anyone tell me how i can restore my window frame on manjaro? After an update, it´s just gone - i´m on the new manjaro dark theme...
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[22:34:16] <Philo> I installed manjaro-kde... and I'm not happy with kde.  So I installed the xfce packages, and settings.  However, I don't see a connection manager.
[22:34:39] <superbia> connection manager?
[22:34:50] <superbia> you mean for the wifi?
[22:34:55] <Philo> to mange my wifi
[22:35:07] <superbia> its an applet in the dock
[22:35:15] <superbia> in the "panel" rather
[22:35:28] <superbia> you need to add it to your panel if it isnt there already
[22:36:06] <Philo> I added one, but it didn't work.  All it does is say "no such device"
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[22:38:53] <superbia> interesting
[22:38:57] <superbia> can you open the terminal
[22:38:59] <superbia> and type
[22:39:08] <superbia> ip link
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[22:40:58] <PhiloPhineas> http://pastebin.com/6P0ZCDB1
[22:41:28] <superbia> PhiloPhineas: k type `sudo wifi-menu wlp7s0`
[22:42:12] <superbia> PhiloPhineas: follow the steps and you should have internet via cli/curses way
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[22:45:38] <PhiloPhineas> superbia: command not found, so I do a pacman -S wifi-menu, and I get a target not found
[22:45:55] <PhiloPhineas> yaourt?
[22:47:19] <PhiloPhineas> no in yaourt either... does the package have another name?
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[22:50:05] <superbia> PhiloPhineas: `sudo pacman -S dialog`
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[22:50:48] <superbia> PhiloPhineas: `sudo pacman -S dialog iw wpa_supplicant`
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[22:51:01] <superbia> then the `wifi-menu` should work
[22:51:32] <JohnBlood> I has to reinstall mate manjaro, and now it's giving me trouble with keys when I try to update - I fixed it before but forgot how to do it
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[22:51:51] <superbia> JohnBlood: depending on the error you get, i would just google the error
[22:51:57] <superbia> and you will get a forum post with the command you wan
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[23:06:57] <bayone> hi, where in Budgie do I control what happens when I insert an USB thumb drive?
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[23:17:41] <JohnBlood> I was trying to fix a pacman key error following instruction on wiki and got this error: http://hastebin.com/jucadonola.coffee
[23:18:00] *** Nixola <Nixola!~nix@unaffiliated/nixola> has joined #manjaro
[23:18:12] <Nixola> hi, I've come to ask for a suggestion; does anyone know a nice video editing program for Linux?
[23:18:32] <JohnBlood> kdenlive
[23:18:40] <JohnBlood> or openshot
[23:19:02] <Strit> There's also Lightworks.
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[23:20:05] <Nixola> what does "non-linear video editor" mean exactly?
[23:20:47] <ringos> JohnBlood,  what is your time ?
[23:21:02] <JohnBlood> 17:20
[23:21:25] <JohnBlood> Is my time out of sync?
[23:21:47] <ringos> pastebin timedatectl?
[23:22:22] <JohnBlood> http://hastebin.com/qipusoqaye.vbs
[23:22:25] <superbia> JohnBlood: visit www.time.is
[23:22:52] <superbia> JohnBlood: it will tell you how much your clock is off
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[23:23:24] <Nixola> my clock is off by less than my ping, yay
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[23:23:25] <JohnBlood> it says that my time is exact
[23:23:55] <ringos> just curius...
[23:24:41] <superbia> ringos: jlist?
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[23:25:56] <Nixola> this is a big update
[23:26:12] <ringos> always :)
[23:26:46] <Nixola> I don't think I've ever seen one single update this big (600MB download size)
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[23:28:02] <JohnBlood> Nixola, I had to download 900+mb because I'm updating Manjaro Mate 15.12
[23:28:44] <Nixola> JohnBlood: that's more than one though
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[23:28:49] <Nixola> my system was up to date before this one
[23:28:56] <Strit> Nixola, It depends on the edition used, and what extra software is installed. The last stable update was 750 MB for me.
[23:29:08] <JohnBlood> I'm running sudo pacman-key --init now
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[23:31:37] <Nixola> Strit: mine were usually smaller (about 500MB, this is more than 600) and most of them were on a system with much more stuff
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[23:31:59] <JohnBlood> how long does it usually take to Generating pacman keyring master key
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[23:33:29] <Nixola> anyway I guess I'll try all those editors and see
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[23:38:06] <superbia> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Gr-7RuNzg
[23:38:32] <superbia> ringos: why is bot out?
[23:38:45] <superbia> Strit: why is the bot out?
[23:39:12] <Nixola> I'm still unable to install stuff from the AUR
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[23:39:25] <superbia> makepkg -sri
[23:39:40] <Nixola> I can install it with yaourt, but I have to skip the pgp check
[23:40:33] <JohnBlood> I got to the second to last step in the pacman kep fix per wiki, but now it says gpg cannont connect to dirmng
[23:40:35] <JohnBlood> http://hastebin.com/fufoyejola.coffee
[23:40:47] <BryzNSTY> Does anyone know of a DE that does vertical panels well? Other than KDE
[23:41:13] <superbia> you already know the anwser
[23:41:37] <superbia> your brain is already oriented towards KDE, so sugesting something else wont have an impact on you
[23:42:40] <BryzNSTY> Im looking for something less resource intensive
[23:42:54] <JohnBlood> Unity
[23:43:03] <JohnBlood> ..ducks behind crate..
[23:43:11] <BryzNSTY> Cant change its position though
[23:43:34] <superbia> if you cant run KDE
[23:43:41] <superbia> why even bother using gtk3
[23:44:03] <superbia> seriously, you love kde, so just update the hardware
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[23:44:30] <BryzNSTY> I can run KDE fine, i just need a little extra ram for gaming
[23:44:33] <BryzNSTY> http://i.imgur.com/WzAKLzD.png
[23:44:36] <superbia> i would rather buy you extra 4 gig of ram, than have to listen to whining about how xfce/openbox looks like shit
[23:44:42] <j09> Hey guys, is there a reason why Manjaro is carrying the latest version of OpenShot?
[23:45:10] <BryzNSTY> I've used XFCE before, I just find it doesnt do a good job with vertical panels
[23:45:17] <Strit> superbia, No idea. maybe the bot maintainer didn't join the channel today.
[23:45:26] <superbia> Strit: who is the bot maintainer
[23:45:35] <JohnBlood> ultron
[23:45:43] <JohnBlood> ant-man
[23:45:46] <JohnBlood> iron man
[23:45:53] <JohnBlood> take your pick
[23:46:09] <superbia> BryzNSTY: buy extra ram
[23:46:11] <Nixola> j09: what do you mean?
[23:46:48] <Strit> superbia, I believe it's NanoSector
[23:46:53] <j09> Nixola the version in Manjaro is 1.4.3-6 but the latest appears to be 2.0.7
[23:46:59] <superbia> Strit: i know him
[23:47:02] <superbia> Strit: a nice chap
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[23:47:50] <JohnBlood> is the mate desktop available compiled against gtk2 or gtk3?
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[23:49:24] <Nixola> j09: oh, so you meant "isn't"
[23:49:50] <j09> Nixola ohh yes, that's what I meant. sorry
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[23:55:24] <JohnBlood> I'm leaveing
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