July 25, 2016 
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July 25, 2016 [00:02:28] *** Smeef <Smeef!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has joined #manjaro[00:03:52] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~quassel@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has left #manjaro ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortabel. Waar dan ook.")[00:05:16] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:05:57] *** Deepin1603 <Deepin1603!~Manjarous@ppp91-78-193-34.pppoe.mtu-net.ru> has joined #manjaro[00:05:59] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@178.220.107.5> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:06:32] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has joined #manjaro[00:06:51] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:06:54] *** Brenton32839 <Brenton32839!~AndChat26@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has joined #manjaro[00:07:43] <Brenton32839> Searching for a way to play Atari 7800 games on manjaro. Any one know how?[00:09:58] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@178.220.107.5> has joined #manjaro[00:11:43] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~quassel@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has joined #manjaro[00:12:40] <Deepin1603> Brenton32839, hatari - An Atari ST and STE emulator or stella - Atari 2600 VCS emulator[00:12:45] <Deepin1603> does it fit to you?[00:13:39] <Brenton32839> I already have Stella for 2600. I need something for 7800. I have mame but mess is not available[00:21:41] *** test <test!5f5ac642@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.95.90.198.66> has joined #manjaro[00:22:05] *** test is now known as Guest30746[00:22:43] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-085-233.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:23:11] *** Guest30746 <Guest30746!5f5ac642@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.95.90.198.66> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:29:21] <Brenton32839> There is a program called kat5200 and another called prosystem. I would really like to see them become available for arch[00:29:31] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[00:30:52] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:31:10] <ringo32> on ubuntu?[00:31:58] <ringo32> Brenton32839, study PKGBUILD do wonders[00:32:00] <ringo32> :)[00:32:00] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.47.101> has joined #manjaro[00:32:48] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@2a02:908:2f32:2960:243b:ada7:c162:64d3> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:33:24] <Brenton32839> kat5200 has a web site with sources. I tried to make it. Didn't work. I would really like to have Atari 5200 and 7800 emulators. At least get mess installed. Its not available[00:34:13] <ringo32> !aur kat5200[00:34:13] <FatalException> kat5200 - an emulator for the Atari 5200 console and Atari 8-bit computers -- version 0.6.2-1 - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kat5200[00:34:51] <ringo32> used that?[00:35:50] <Deepin1603> btw, anybody tried to launch manjaro with https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/liveroot/?[00:35:50] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/d7yvTv] AUR (en) - liveroot[00:36:03] <Diskord__> Sup, who use i3wm[00:36:04] <Diskord__> >[00:36:05] <Diskord__> ?[00:37:01] <ringo32> not me have tried few times..[00:37:51] <Brenton32839> Oh crap its there I will try it. How about Atari 7800[00:38:45] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@201.37.162.251> has joined #manjaro[00:38:48] <ringo32> !aur libretro-prosystem-git[00:38:48] <FatalException> libretro-prosystem-git - libretro implementation of ProSystem. (Atari 7800) -- version 95.26ee7d5-1 - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/libretro-prosystem-git[00:38:51] <ringo32> ???[00:39:19] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@201.37.162.251> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[00:40:17] <Brenton32839> oh I see now ty[00:40:26] *** lixa <lixa!~lixa@unaffiliated/lixa> has left #manjaro[00:41:53] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[00:41:56] <ringo32> Brenton32839, under yaourt libretro[00:42:00] <ringo32> yu see much more[00:42:48] <Brenton32839> OK I installed libretro prosystem. How do I launch it[00:43:02] <ringo32> no under games ?[00:43:22] <[[[archtard]]]> it's under office[00:43:26] <Brenton32839> No[00:44:03] <Brenton32839> No[00:46:09] <ringo32> pacman -S retroarch[00:47:13] <ringo32> mayby some inof http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/Using_RetroArch#Installing_RetroArch_on_Linux[00:47:14] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/pH7Rbh] Using RetroArch - Emulation General Wiki - Wikia[00:47:51] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177890848.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[00:49:01] <ringo32> have to go*[00:49:04] <ringo32> bye all[00:50:49] <Brenton32839> So retroarch is kinda a one stop shop for different game system emulation[00:52:14] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:56:32] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@cpc69143-neat4-2-0-cust251.7-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[00:57:24] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[00:57:38] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@cpc69143-neat4-2-0-cust251.7-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:58:44] *** Donny-Stark <Donny-Stark!~Donny-Sta@s51445dab.adsl.online.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:59:00] <Brenton32839> Do I need a front end for retroarch or is it a gui[00:59:42] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@87-60-38-211-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:00:10] *** marrek <marrek!~mark@a89-182-62-142.net-htp.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:02:02] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:03:24] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@187.36.220.116> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:07:20] *** PhiloPhineas <PhiloPhineas!~manjaro-k@c-73-158-177-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:07:48] *** marchesini <marchesini!~donatina@177.136.64.224> has joined #manjaro[01:07:57] *** manjaro-web|2483 <manjaro-web|2483!6cb72618@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.183.38.24> has joined #manjaro[01:08:44] *** manjaro-web|2483 is now known as jco7[01:09:52] *** jco7 <jco7!6cb72618@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.183.38.24> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:10:13] <marchesini> hey guys, i just installed now the manjaro xfce x32 on my old p4, and its just a bit lag. my old linux is the porteus, and the desktop, graphics resource ins't so good but the performace is much better. have a way to speed up this system to run at a good speed? my system is a p4 3.2 ghz HT. 2gb ram ddr 400.[01:11:25] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.79> has joined #manjaro[01:11:41] *** Philo <Philo!~manjaro-k@2601:646:8f01:6e50:b6de:4987:c90a:d32a> has joined #manjaro[01:19:08] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@87-60-38-211-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[01:19:09] *** lastar <lastar!~lastar162@2607:fa48:6ec2:4750:7e7d:1cbe:1f42:b364> has joined #manjaro[01:19:22] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@p54BDFE21.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[01:20:06] *** manjaroDeepin160 <manjaroDeepin160!~Manjaro-D@201.37.120.226> has joined #manjaro[01:22:02] *** manjaroDeepin160 <manjaroDeepin160!~Manjaro-D@201.37.120.226> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:23:53] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@p54BDFE21.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:24:34] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:24:55] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[01:25:13] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[01:25:53] *** Brenton32839 <Brenton32839!~AndChat26@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[01:30:42] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:31:56] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@201.37.162.251> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:32:18] *** Deepin1603 <Deepin1603!~Manjarous@ppp91-78-193-34.pppoe.mtu-net.ru> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:32:58] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.79> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:33:24] *** bugzbunny <bugzbunny!~bugzbunny@203-173-250-13.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz> has joined #manjaro[01:34:20] *** photonix000 <photonix000!~photonic@185.43.110.22> has joined #manjaro[01:35:31] *** lastar <lastar!~lastar162@2607:fa48:6ec2:4750:7e7d:1cbe:1f42:b364> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:38:43] *** manjaro-web|2784 <manjaro-web|2784!294484ad@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.41.68.132.173> has joined #manjaro[01:38:46] <photonix000> I tried setting up LAMP earlier and failed, now following the tutorial on the Manjaro forums and when I get to installing MariaDB and typing "sudo mysql_install_db --user=mysql --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql" it says stuff like "InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process using the same InnoDB data or log files.". I used "sudo pacman -R mariadb" to uninstall it and used "sudo pacman -S mysql" and chose option 1[01:38:46] <photonix000> (MariaDB) and type the command again and get the same error.[01:38:55] <manjaro-web|2784> ime zones are not accessible:[01:38:55] <manjaro-web|2784> KAlarm will use the UTC time zone.[01:38:55] <manjaro-web|2784> (The KDE time zone service is not available:[01:38:55] <manjaro-web|2784> check that ktimezoned is installed.)[01:38:59] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.79> has joined #manjaro[01:39:25] <manjaro-web|2784> time zones are not accessible:[01:39:26] <manjaro-web|2784> KAlarm will use the UTC time zone.[01:39:26] <manjaro-web|2784> (The KDE time zone service is not available:[01:39:26] <manjaro-web|2784> check that ktimezoned is installed.)[01:45:01] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-187-108.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:45:12] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-187-108.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[01:48:55] <photonix000> I no longer need support, resolved the issue by finding a PID for mysqld and killing it.[01:48:58] *** photonix000 <photonix000!~photonic@185.43.110.22> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:50:11] *** marchesini <marchesini!~donatina@177.136.64.224> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:51:09] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.47.101> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:56:09] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@179.234.72.224> has joined #manjaro[01:56:29] *** manjaro-jwm is now known as r00tByte[01:57:58] *** deemde <deemde!~manjaro-k@ip5f5bd3d8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[01:59:05] *** deemde <deemde!~manjaro-k@ip5f5bd3d8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[02:03:03] *** Snake1130 <Snake1130!~MakerBlak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net> has joined #manjaro[02:03:46] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.148.20> has joined #manjaro[02:04:22] *** manjaro-web|7865 <manjaro-web|7865!18a581d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.165.129.211> has joined #manjaro[02:04:38] <manjaro-web|7865> how to fix your wifi[02:04:51] <manjaro-web|7865> in manjaro[02:05:59] <mtn> manjaro-web|7865: fix it how? what is it doing?[02:06:22] *** manjaro-web|2784 <manjaro-web|2784!294484ad@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.41.68.132.173> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[02:07:23] *** Philo <Philo!~manjaro-k@2601:646:8f01:6e50:b6de:4987:c90a:d32a> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:07:27] <manjaro-web|7865> i can't scan for it[02:07:37] <manjaro-web|7865> like it won't let me use wifi[02:07:43] <manjaro-web|7865> i am on wired right now[02:07:45] <mtn> manjaro-web|7865: Please type "inxi -Nnz" (without the " marks) in a terminal and paste the results to dpaste.com and give us the link.[02:07:56] *** Brenton32839 <Brenton32839!~AndChat26@2607:fb90:5841:2633:0:24:1096:4201> has joined #manjaro[02:08:06] <manjaro-web|7865> so put inxi -nnz[02:08:54] <mtn> manjaro-web|7865: do it the way I said to do it[02:09:27] <Brenton32839> Question. In regards to retroarch and libretro. Can I combine lidretro cores from both official repo and aur[02:09:35] <manjaro-web|7865> Card-1: Broadcom NetLink BCM57785 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe driver: tg3[02:09:35] <manjaro-web|7865> IF: enp2s0f0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>[02:09:35] <manjaro-web|7865> Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter[02:09:35] <manjaro-web|7865> driver: ath9k[02:09:35] <manjaro-web|7865> IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: <filter>[02:10:27] <mtn> manjaro-web|7865: well, you did not paste it where I told you to. most channels would have kicked you for that paste.[02:10:48] <mtn> manjaro-web|7865: your wireless seems to be on. what do you see when you go to network manager?[02:11:20] <manjaro-web|7865> never mind mtn but thanks[02:11:31] <mtn> manjaro-web|7865: never mind why?[02:11:56] <mtn> manjaro-web|7865: did your problem go away?[02:12:04] <manjaro-web|7865> no[02:13:01] <mtn> manjaro-web|7865: so what are you trying to say? don't want to answer my question or.....?[02:13:24] <manjaro-web|7865> what if i spell wifi into the term[02:13:27] <manjaro-web|7865> will that work[02:13:51] <mtn> manjaro-web|7865: to help you go to network manager? no, it won't. why not just go to network manager as I suggested?[02:13:58] *** day|flip <day|flip!~communi@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[02:14:14] <manjaro-web|7865> i was already there earlier[02:14:20] <manjaro-web|7865> but ok i will again[02:14:41] <mtn> manjaro-web|7865: if you want my help, you will need to answer my questions. if you don't want any help, just say so[02:14:50] <manjaro-web|7865> it says network connections[02:15:00] <mtn> manjaro-web|7865: do you see wireless?[02:15:17] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@185.118.249.49> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:15:29] <manjaro-web|7865> yes[02:15:44] <mtn> manjaro-web|7865: does it list any networks?[02:16:11] <manjaro-web|7865> yes i see mines but it says on the side edit add or delete[02:16:56] <mtn> manjaro-web|7865: what happens if you click on your network?[02:17:14] *** aris_t <aris_t!~manjaro-k@athedsl-4363042.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:17:16] *** thenewone <thenewone!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[02:17:46] <manjaro-web|7865> it says general,wifi,wifi security etc.[02:17:49] *** Philo <Philo!~manjaro-k@c-73-158-177-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[02:18:14] <mtn> manjaro-web|7865: no, if you click that network, it should try to connect. doesn't it?[02:19:37] <manjaro-web|7865> are you able to control my manjaro[02:20:03] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.79> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:20:30] *** manjaro-web|7865 <manjaro-web|7865!18a581d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.165.129.211> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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Probably related to mesa 12? Anyone can confirm?[03:42:23] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[03:42:55] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[03:43:25] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@187.85.218.217> has joined #manjaro[03:43:46] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@187.85.218.217> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:44:19] *** gpunk <gpunk!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[03:45:46] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:46:09] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[03:58:00] *** gpunk <gpunk!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has joined #manjaro[04:02:31] *** gpunk <gpunk!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:05:00] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@87-60-38-211-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[04:07:03] *** manjaroDeepin160 <manjaroDeepin160!~Manjaro-D@c-71-63-227-18.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[04:07:11] *** r00tByte <r00tByte!~eusenio@179.234.72.224> has joined #manjaro[04:07:13] *** manjaroDeepin160 <manjaroDeepin160!~Manjaro-D@c-71-63-227-18.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:12:48] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.148.20> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[04:16:36] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@87-60-38-211-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[04:20:46] *** SanzFC <SanzFC!~SanzFC@179.216.132.185> has joined #manjaro[04:21:00] *** SanzFC <SanzFC!~SanzFC@179.216.132.185> has left #manjaro[04:24:45] *** Zipristin <Zipristin!~manjaro-k@160.red-79-144-73.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[04:27:10] *** SanzFC <SanzFC!~SanzFC@179.216.132.185> has joined #manjaro[04:27:29] *** dracfl <dracfl!~dracfl@67.231.161.40> has joined #manjaro[04:28:10] *** SanzFC <SanzFC!~SanzFC@179.216.132.185> has left #manjaro[04:35:30] *** r00tByte <r00tByte!~eusenio@179.234.72.224> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:35:31] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[04:39:13] *** w30 <w30!~Dabel@2601:245:8100:2347::1> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[04:40:22] *** Manjaro-kde5-Lwr <Manjaro-kde5-Lwr!~manjaro-k@191.103.226.156> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[04:43:21] *** knutz <knutz!~manjaro-k@87-60-38-211-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[04:50:02] *** tripped <tripped!~trip@user-36c5b4e.cable.mindspring.com> has joined #manjaro[04:50:16] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177890848.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:52:11] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[04:52:45] *** dracfl <dracfl!~dracfl@67.231.161.40> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:55:29] *** pingupingu <pingupingu!~pinguping@unaffiliated/pingupingu> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:55:46] *** pingupingu <pingupingu!~pinguping@unaffiliated/pingupingu> has joined #manjaro[04:56:06] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:56:29] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[05:22:48] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:29:12] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@211-74-251-173.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw> has joined #manjaro[05:29:12] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@211-74-251-173.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[05:30:34] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[05:32:17] *** pingupingu <pingupingu!~pinguping@unaffiliated/pingupingu> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[05:35:48] *** superbia2 <superbia2!~superbia@unaffiliated/lafemme> has joined #manjaro[05:36:35] *** manjaro-web|3704 <manjaro-web|3704!18a581d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.165.129.211> has joined #manjaro[05:36:57] <manjaro-web|3704> how to fix failed manjaro updates[05:37:09] <manjaro-web|3704> because my computer went off[05:37:18] <day|flip> what do you mean. are you on stable?[05:37:26] <manjaro-web|3704> yes[05:37:35] <day|flip> fresh installed?[05:37:38] <manjaro-web|3704> my pc went off while doing so[05:38:26] <day|flip> you could try from the cli way[05:38:38] <manjaro-web|3704> how do i do that[05:38:52] *** superbia1 <superbia1!~superbia@unaffiliated/lafemme> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:39:40] <day|flip> sudo pacman -Syu.. if you want. sudo pacman -Syyuu <--- this will re download the repo and try to update[05:40:07] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@65.131.60.161> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[05:40:11] <day|flip> this is all done in the terminal[05:40:43] <manjaro-web|3704> : Synchronizing package databases...[05:40:44] <manjaro-web|3704> error: failed to update core (unable to lock database)[05:40:44] <manjaro-web|3704> error: failed to update extra (unable to lock database)[05:40:44] <manjaro-web|3704> error: failed to update community (unable to lock database)[05:40:44] <manjaro-web|3704> error: failed to update multilib (unable to lock database)[05:40:44] <manjaro-web|3704> error: failed to synchronize any databases[05:40:44] <manjaro-web|3704> error: failed to init transaction (unable to lock database)[05:40:44] <manjaro-web|3704> error: could not lock database: File exists[05:40:45] <manjaro-web|3704> if you're sure a package manager is not already[05:40:45] <manjaro-web|3704> running, you can remove /var/lib/pacman/db.lck[05:41:08] <day|flip> sudo rm /var/lib/pacman/db.lck[05:41:17] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[05:41:19] <day|flip> if you look at the last line[05:41:22] <day|flip> it till you[05:41:30] <manjaro-web|3704> put that in above[05:41:42] <day|flip> and try: sudo pacman -Syu[05:42:31] <manjaro-web|3704> [martell@martell-pc ~]$ sudo pacman -Syu[05:42:31] <manjaro-web|3704> [sudo] password for martell:[05:42:31] <manjaro-web|3704> :: Synchronizing package databases...[05:42:31] <manjaro-web|3704> error: failed to update core (unable to lock database)[05:42:31] <manjaro-web|3704> error: failed[05:42:47] <manjaro-web|3704> see there is a problem[05:43:29] <day|flip> there no more info?[05:43:50] <manjaro-web|3704> [martell@martell-pc ~]$ sudo pacman -Syu[05:43:50] <manjaro-web|3704> [sudo] password for martell:[05:43:50] <manjaro-web|3704> :: Synchronizing package databases...[05:43:50] <manjaro-web|3704> error: failed to update core (unable to lock database)[05:43:50] <manjaro-web|3704> error: failed to update extra (unable to lock database)[05:43:50] <manjaro-web|3704> error: failed to update community (unable to lock database)[05:43:50] <manjaro-web|3704> error: failed to update multilib (unable to lock database)[05:43:51] <manjaro-web|3704> error: failed to synchronize any databases[05:43:52] <manjaro-web|3704> error: failed to init transaction (unable to lock database)[05:43:52] <manjaro-web|3704> error: could not lock database: File exists[05:43:52] <manjaro-web|3704> if you're sure a package manager is not already[05:43:53] <manjaro-web|3704> running, you can remove /var/lib/pacman/db.lck[05:44:12] <day|flip> sudo rm /var/lib/pacman/db.lck <--- have you not done this?[05:45:17] <manjaro-web|3704> ok i got it thanks bro[05:45:48] <day|flip> so now it updating?[05:45:55] <manjaro-web|3704> yes sir[05:46:00] <day|flip> sweet[05:46:15] <manjaro-web|3704> sorry for saying sir i was just raised that way[05:46:22] <day|flip> no problem[05:46:33] <day|flip> i find with that[05:46:54] <manjaro-web|3704> has manjaro ever had any viruses[05:47:08] <day|flip> this is more about linux as a hole[05:47:17] <manjaro-web|3704> oh[05:47:38] <manjaro-web|3704> sorry i was just checking because you already know about mac and windows[05:47:42] <day|flip> since most linux distro used the same / to /home/$USER[05:47:59] <day|flip> biggest thing I don't like is flash[05:48:12] <day|flip> thing got more lop hole then anything less[05:48:30] <manjaro-web|3704> what is the best way to protect yourself[05:48:41] <manjaro-web|3704> against all viruses[05:49:04] <day|flip> tbh. it more about keeping your info from showing up on the web[05:49:31] <manjaro-web|3704> oh what is tbh[05:49:34] <day|flip> viruses is not alot on linux. but it can happen. but to bth. I never have them[05:50:03] <day|flip> to be honest[05:50:36] *** becca <becca!~becca@66-169-18-107.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[05:50:53] <manjaro-web|3704> well thats good just making sure because i am a internet security person[05:50:59] <manjaro-web|3704> i love my protection[05:51:00] <day|flip> the biggest issue is how you manage your web browsing[05:51:21] <manjaro-web|3704> i well i have that done in good terms hands down[05:51:41] <day|flip> other ways are vpn and posxy[05:51:45] <manjaro-web|3704> i just get on youtube and yahoo also betanews, distrowatch etc.[05:52:49] <manjaro-web|3704> your a pretty cool person to talk to you know your stuff :)[05:52:54] <day|flip> I never used them. But I here it better to go with vpn. this way your ip don't know were you been[05:53:08] *** hoagies <hoagies!~michael@186.82.70.156> has joined #manjaro[05:53:18] <day|flip> i hear***[05:53:27] <manjaro-web|3704> lol[05:53:29] <day|flip> ya. my english is meh[05:54:05] <day|flip> even though it my only language[05:55:06] <manjaro-web|3704> how to get manjaro up with the speed of an ssd[05:55:16] <manjaro-web|3704> like how do we clean things on ssds[05:55:45] <day|flip> will. I can only think of btrfs is the only thing that will do that.[05:56:01] <day|flip> but the thing have a ton of command to learn[05:56:03] <manjaro-web|3704> how do you use that[05:57:29] <day|flip> I really dout you have btrfs as one your main file system[05:57:44] <day|flip> lsblk -f[05:57:51] <day|flip> ext4?[05:58:24] <manjaro-web|3704> what spell that in the terminal[05:58:40] *** emigrantcz <emigrantcz!~emigrant@ip-37-221-248-225.cust.tlapnet.cz> has joined #manjaro[05:58:57] <day|flip> lsblk is anther command line[05:59:01] <day|flip> lsblk -f[05:59:16] <manjaro-web|3704> ok i am going to spell that in the term[05:59:53] <manjaro-web|3704> so that command will speed up my ssd[05:59:57] <day|flip> no[06:00:12] <day|flip> just trying to figure out what fs you have installed to your patitions[06:01:07] <day|flip> if your trying to speed up your boot then you may need to remove some of your servies[06:01:08] <manjaro-web|3704> martell@martell-pc ~]$ lsblk -f[06:01:08] <manjaro-web|3704> NAME FSTYPE LABEL UUID MOUNTPOINT[06:01:08] <manjaro-web|3704> sda[06:01:08] <manjaro-web|3704> └─sda1 ext4 264e54e5-5a9e-4222-8cbd-c1b74ca41e86 /[06:01:08] <manjaro-web|3704> sr0[06:02:29] <day|flip> systemd-analyze[06:02:29] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-187-108.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:03:05] *** Troupal <Troupal!~troupal@AToulouse-652-1-187-108.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[06:03:48] <manjaro-web|3704> systemd-analyze[06:03:48] <manjaro-web|3704> Startup finished in 2.136s (kernel) + 2.509s (userspace) = 4.646s[06:03:59] <day|flip> that still really good[06:04:28] <day|flip> what is it that feel slow?[06:04:33] *** becca <becca!~becca@66-169-18-107.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:04:51] *** Troupal <Troupal!~troupal@AToulouse-652-1-187-108.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:06:24] <manjaro-web|3704> oh no nothing[06:06:44] <manjaro-web|3704> i just want to know how to maintain it once it does start to go slow[06:07:55] <day|flip> if anything running out ram can slow down your computer a lot[06:08:10] <day|flip> how much memory you have installed?[06:08:16] <manjaro-web|3704> 8gb[06:08:29] <day|flip> i do just fine with 4gb[06:08:34] *** manjaro-web|2393 <manjaro-web|2393!42820432@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.66.130.4.50> has joined #manjaro[06:08:57] *** manjaro-web|2393 <manjaro-web|2393!42820432@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.66.130.4.50> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:09:28] <day|flip> since you don't have a swap partition. not really needed so much. but if anything. that will slow down your computer. is having all your ram used up[06:09:30] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:09:31] <manjaro-web|3704> wait is'nt there a way to make wine work faster[06:09:53] <day|flip> i have not used wine in yearssss[06:10:21] <manjaro-web|3704> lol wow i guess that it sucks that bad hahaha[06:10:37] <day|flip> it not that. i just don't used anything that need it[06:10:48] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[06:11:38] <manjaro-web|3704> i know that you r getting tired of me[06:11:51] <day|flip> ? how come?[06:12:02] <day|flip> It not like i have anything better i can do[06:12:13] <manjaro-web|3704> because i am asking some many questions[06:12:18] <manjaro-web|3704> lol[06:12:27] <day|flip> :) i only know so much[06:12:43] <manjaro-web|3704> do you know how to run team viewer in manjaro[06:12:46] <day|flip> hell i can tell you how you can uninstall all the package that on your computer if you want[06:13:29] <day|flip> manjaro-web|3704: this is were doing research can help. I do not now how it done[06:13:30] <manjaro-web|3704> what like ununstall all the programs that's slowing it down[06:13:33] <manjaro-web|3704> or idk[06:14:33] <manjaro-web|3704> no but i don't need team viewer but thanks dude[06:16:42] <manjaro-web|3704> when you download stuff from the web and then delete it form your trash will that slow down you ssd[06:17:13] <day|flip> readlly dout it.[06:18:05] <manjaro-web|3704> nohoemo but is there a way that i can keep in contact with you in the future[06:18:09] <manjaro-web|3704> if i need help[06:18:23] <day|flip> if im on the irc[06:18:49] <manjaro-web|3704> ok[06:18:53] <day|flip> You may be more info from the froum. I'm not a export. I only know what I have learn[06:19:33] <manjaro-web|3704> one more thing and then i am gone[06:19:53] <manjaro-web|3704> how can you make sure that manjaro reads all the drivers you have[06:21:01] <manjaro-web|3704> so it can work 100 percent flawlessly[06:22:07] <day|flip> ehh.. I'm not sure. Some time your file manager can find it. I know other desktop can do thing better. so you can open them up and read them[06:23:20] <manjaro-web|3704> ok bye for now but thanks a lot day/flip[06:23:30] <manjaro-web|3704> have a nice day :)[06:23:42] <day|flip> try typing "day" then hit tab[06:23:54] <day|flip> i'm not using forward slash[06:24:11] <manjaro-web|3704> day|flip: lol ok now i got it[06:24:25] <day|flip> it \ with shift[06:24:35] <day|flip> so you get this |[06:24:45] <manjaro-web|3704> yes sir[06:24:56] <day|flip> :)[06:25:00] <day|flip> you take care[06:25:09] <manjaro-web|3704> you as well bye[06:25:16] *** manjaro-web|3704 <manjaro-web|3704!18a581d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.165.129.211> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[06:25:41] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@149.200.212.73> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:31:29] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[06:32:08] *** Oldiesmann <Oldiesmann!~Oldiesman@simplemachines/developer/Oldiesmann> has joined #manjaro[06:37:25] *** Syl-en <Syl-en!~CLDX@2602:306:3764:4240:223:14ff:fedc:f9e8> has joined #manjaro[06:40:24] *** [[[archtard]]] <[[[archtard]]]!~bonehead@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/archtard/x-42966204> has left #manjaro[06:41:08] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[06:46:38] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[06:47:30] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-foopwphqbqwqqdov> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[06:50:15] *** Syl-en <Syl-en!~CLDX@2602:306:3764:4240:223:14ff:fedc:f9e8> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:54:13] *** manjMate-user <manjMate-user!~manjaro-m@217-209-100-189-no243.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[06:54:13] *** manjMate-user <manjMate-user!~manjaro-m@217-209-100-189-no243.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:54:27] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:54:46] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[07:00:47] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[07:00:55] *** Syl37-en <Syl37-en!~CLDX@2602:306:3764:4240:223:14ff:fedc:f9e8> has joined #manjaro[07:09:09] *** Oldiesmann <Oldiesmann!~Oldiesman@simplemachines/developer/Oldiesmann> has quit IRC (Quit: No, no, no. 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I'm on vacation for three weeks started today ;)[10:07:47] *** peetaur2 <peetaur2!~peter@i4DF67CD2.pool.tripleplugandplay.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:07:57] <Vlado9A> and manjaro works just fine on several computers :)[10:08:09] <Vlado9A> xfce and cinnamon ...[10:08:20] <Vlado9A> my wife loves manjaro cinnamon :)[10:09:05] <ringo32> lol only i know womans hates much updates :p[10:10:07] <Vlado9A> my wife doesn't care about that much... she updates herself... except I update packages from AUR (on her computer) ;)[10:11:06] *** Matumaros <Matumaros!3e9fed02@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.159.237.2> has quit IRC (K-Lined)[10:12:35] <Vlado9A> everyone who hate updates are IT illiterate[10:13:06] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: mmh mmh bang bang boom boom pop pop)[10:14:21] <ringo32> if manjaro updates to much my wive sounds the bell :p[10:14:25] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has joined #manjaro[10:14:57] <Vlado9A> lucky her... she has you ;)[10:16:05] <ringo32> is your wive unhappy on you? :)[10:16:10] * ringo32 can come :p[10:17:06] *** peetaur2 <peetaur2!~peter@i4DF67CD2.pool.tripleplugandplay.com> has joined #manjaro[10:17:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v peetaur2[10:17:59] <Vlado9A> ringo32: I am going to answer questions only about linux issues :)[10:18:24] <Vlado9A> *manjaro linux issues, if any :D[10:18:45] *** chmuri <chmuri!~chmurifre@31-178-100-233.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:18:52] <ringo32> lol[10:18:56] <ringo32> Right answer :)[10:18:57] <Vlado9A> other questions are off topic :)[10:19:18] <ringo32> Just to avoid you go to quickly :p[10:19:28] <Vlado9A> okay, see you all later, have a great and peaceful day ;)[10:20:22] <ringo32> lol[10:26:28] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-pvmlgerlbcfgjnuk> has joined #manjaro[10:31:34] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@121-73-86-161.cable.telstraclear.net> has joined #manjaro[10:33:39] *** Diomedes 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<robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[13:19:14] *** armin <armin!~armin@base.m2m.pm> has joined #manjaro[13:20:58] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-187-108.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[13:21:27] *** christopher <christopher!~christoph@108.190.76.99> has joined #manjaro[13:21:46] *** christopher is now known as Guest81993[13:22:40] <Guest81993> I have a realtek rtl8188ee (Wifi) and the default driver works but every once in a while the wifi just drops. Not daily but here and there. Is there a solution?[13:23:17] <Guest81993> I download this driver https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new but it will not make[13:23:19] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/osv5Ab] GitHub - lwfinger/rtlwifi_new: A repo for the newest Realtek rtlwifi codes.[13:24:08] <Guest81993> It won't make for some reason would you like the error?[13:24:35] <Guest81993> make -C /lib/modules/4.4.13-1-MANJARO/build M=/home/christopher/Downloads/rtlwifi_new-master modules[13:24:35] <Guest81993> make[1]: Entering directory '/usr/lib/modules/4.4.13-1-MANJARO/build'[13:24:35] <Guest81993> make[1]: *** No rule to make target 'modules'. Stop.[13:24:35] <Guest81993> make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/lib/modules/4.4.13-1-MANJARO/build'[13:24:35] <Guest81993> make: *** [Makefile:57: all] Error 2[13:25:47] <Jeannie> Have you tried the aur package?[13:25:59] <Guest81993> No was unaware of that[13:26:50] <Strit_Laptop> Did you remember to install the kernel headers for your kernel?[13:28:11] <Guest81993> No I'll try that thank you[13:28:28] <Guest81993> I'm not new new to linux but didn't know I had to do that[13:30:02] <Strit_Laptop> kernel modules usually needs headers.[13:30:40] *** IamRight <IamRight!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[13:31:47] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-187-108.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[13:33:42] *** flawless <flawless!~flawless@hst-225-161.splius.lt> has joined #manjaro[13:34:30] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[13:37:44] *** mr_jason <mr_jason!~mr_jason@114.111.166.52> has joined #manjaro[13:38:34] *** Manj-811-Xfce2 <Manj-811-Xfce2!~leonardo@32.red-95-120-90.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[13:38:36] *** Manj-811-Xfce2 <Manj-811-Xfce2!~leonardo@32.red-95-120-90.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:38:38] <Guest81993> thanks everyone got it[13:41:32] <Strit_Laptop> problem was headers?[13:41:38] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.253> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:41:47] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.253> has joined #manjaro[13:44:35] <Guest81993> sorry everyone but I think I just did that as root is that ok?[13:45:04] <Guest81993> Yes problem was headers[13:45:27] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Quit: back to home planet weechat 1.5)[13:46:14] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[13:47:29] <Strit_Laptop> Guest81993, you should never build software from source as root. :P But some software requires root to be run.[13:47:33] *** deemde <deemde!~manjaro-k@wlan-141-23-119-162.tubit.tu-berlin.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:47:46] <Guest81993> So if I did is there a way to back it out?[13:47:55] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[13:48:57] <meta-system> hi, need to rebuild mpd package in core[13:49:03] <Strit_Laptop> I don't think so, you'd have to build the software again. But it really shouldn't matter, as long as you know, it isn't messing with your system.[13:49:06] *** Guest81993 <Guest81993!~christoph@108.190.76.99> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:49:11] <meta-system> smbclient dep broken[13:49:29] <meta-system> so I think it would be great to rebuild binarie[13:50:07] <Strit_Laptop> why is it broken?[13:50:23] <meta-system> Strit_Laptop: can't start mpd after install[13:50:29] <meta-system> searching exact error[13:51:04] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.253> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:51:18] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.253> has joined #manjaro[13:51:24] <meta-system> hum, log cleared when I restart with mpd-git[13:51:55] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hzkhybeirltrhrme> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[13:52:03] <Strit_Laptop> Manjaro's mpd package is directly from Arch.[13:52:04] <meta-system> Strit_Laptop: just I remember it can't start because of needed file from libsmbclient was not found[13:52:41] <meta-system> possibly because of smbclient-stub instead of smbclient?[13:53:00] <Strit_Laptop> Why do you have smbclient-stub? 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ZZZzzz…)[14:50:10] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[14:52:57] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[14:57:05] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:59:11] <bugzbunny> never[15:00:31] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-upduewdbslsxcrhz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[15:00:33] <conor> lolol[15:00:53] <conor> moar coffeee[15:01:16] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.147.49> has joined #manjaro[15:01:31] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~HamRadio@67.148.122.154> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[15:01:34] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@201-40-91-59.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br> has joined #manjaro[15:02:31] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has joined #manjaro[15:03:20] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@201-40-91-59.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:04:30] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[15:04:33] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@201-40-91-59.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br> has joined #manjaro[15:04:41] <curly-brace> hi all! what may be happening, when dialogs for opening files appear with delay of several second? earlier they appeared instantly[15:04:46] *** jonas18175 <jonas18175!~manjaro-k@p5DC30D36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[15:04:53] <bugzbunny> conor: Don't forget pastries[15:05:44] <conor> never forgetti[15:05:45] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@201-40-91-59.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:05:54] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@201-40-91-59.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br> has joined #manjaro[15:05:54] *** manjaro-kde5_ is now known as haunter89[15:06:01] <conor> have you tried turning it off and back on again?[15:06:27] <curly-brace> yeah[15:06:35] <curly-brace> lot of times[15:06:36] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has joined #manjaro[15:06:52] <conor> pretty large file or all files slow to open?[15:07:44] <curly-brace> conor, thats open file dialog. it just takes several seconds for it to appear. like something is going on before[15:08:15] <conor> could be something with your windowmanager[15:08:28] <curly-brace> dolphin is also starting a bit longer[15:10:19] <curly-brace> seems like it only affects windows, that show files. other programms seem to start normally[15:10:55] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[15:10:58] <curly-brace> like something prescans directory, but i have log ago disabled indexing service (because it was causing heavy lags)[15:11:05] <bugzbunny> In my case, I often mount a lot of SSHFS, and if one of the connections dropped. Caja would hang for a few seconds scanning a non-existent path.[15:11:30] <curly-brace> i have only local partitions and even do not use usb-sticks[15:13:16] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.147.49> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[15:14:22] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.147.49> has joined #manjaro[15:14:31] <curly-brace> may it be caused by btrfs? may be it somehow fragmented (i know it is stupid, but i dunno what's happening)[15:15:16] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-pjuvckqidukjwbxc> has joined #manjaro[15:16:04] <conor> fsck?[15:17:10] <curly-brace> conor, i'm not very pro with linux. what keys would be better to use?[15:17:26] <curly-brace> also there were like 3 power shortages recently[15:17:42] <conor> what do you mean by what keys are better to use?[15:17:45] <curly-brace> but fsck on system start seemed showing no errors[15:17:49] <conor> fhmm[15:17:52] <conor> hmm*[15:18:00] <curly-brace> keys for fsck to repair errors[15:18:40] <bugzbunny> Do you mean command line arguments?[15:18:46] <curly-brace> yeas[15:18:58] *** louis__1 <louis__1!~louis1@cpc87039-finc18-2-0-cust127.4-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[15:19:06] <conor> just -y for auto repair[15:19:17] <conor> but if theyre are none[15:19:25] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[15:20:09] <conor> whens the last time you updated?[15:20:19] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-12907.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[15:20:47] *** louis__1 <louis__1!~louis1@cpc87039-finc18-2-0-cust127.4-2.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:20:54] *** aris <aris!~aris@199.227.180.161> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[15:21:09] <curly-brace> my system somehow gets no updates (but i installed it somewhere in May or April). just single updates for apps[15:21:54] <conor> why no updates?[15:22:01] <curly-brace> i had something like this a year ago on opensuse, but it dissappered after some months[15:22:04] *** othniel <othniel!~manjaro-k@105.9.241.74> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:22:12] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:22:13] *** othniel <othniel!~manjaro-k@105.9.241.74> has joined #manjaro[15:22:32] <curly-brace> conor, i've asked here and was told that for monjaro it is ok that there are so little updates[15:23:00] <conor> sudo pacman -Syy[15:23:07] <conor> i get updates almost every day[15:23:36] <conor> its worth a shot[15:23:48] <curly-brace> it says that i'm up to date[15:23:51] <conor> lolol[15:23:54] <conor> how[15:24:16] <Jeannie> Then you two are probably on different branches, stable/testing maybe[15:24:17] <curly-brace> i got updates only for programms that i've installed from repos or aur[15:25:14] <conor> nice[15:25:15] <curly-brace> Jeannie, yeas i'm on stable[15:25:33] <curly-brace> dunno why i'm always typing a[15:25:35] <curly-brace> lol[15:25:35] <conor> what window manager?[15:25:39] <curly-brace> kde[15:25:46] <conor> lame[15:25:50] <curly-brace> why?[15:25:54] <conor> resource hog[15:26:18] <curly-brace> i'm using it for the whole my life and it seems to work nice tho[15:26:44] <conor> just personal preference[15:27:00] <conor> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Install_Desktop_Environments[15:27:01] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/GCkANw] Install Desktop Environments - Manjaro Linux[15:27:03] <conor> easy to switch tho[15:27:25] <Jeannie> If someone prefers kde, why should that person switch?[15:27:56] <curly-brace> if i were on windows, i would assume that there are some hooks set for disk access and try to investigate with process and resource monitors and look for hooks in the system dlls. is it somehow possible in linux? may be i'm infected?[15:27:58] <conor> if its slow lol[15:28:17] *** ghost89 <ghost89!~manjaro-k@201.14.44.165> has joined #manjaro[15:28:25] *** haunter89 <haunter89!~manjaro-k@201-40-91-59.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[15:28:34] <Jeannie> KDE can be slow on underpowered outdated hardware[15:28:35] <conor> thats above my knowledge[15:28:36] <curly-brace> conor, but i have no lags even with switched on effects and fullscreen video and games and such[15:29:14] <curly-brace> only when i press "open file" somewhere or launch dolphine, i have lag[15:29:27] <conor> hmm, maybe switch filemanagers?[15:29:28] <bugzbunny> curly-brace: You can try 'strace'[15:29:52] <bugzbunny> Find out, on what system call, if any, is making dolphin hanging[15:30:19] <curly-brace> wow! cool thing[15:30:57] <bugzbunny> You have enough free ram right? And not inadvertently dipping into swap?[15:31:15] <bugzbunny> BTW, 'strace' can produce a lot of out, fyi[15:31:40] <conor> Konqueror and Krusader are popular kde filemanagers[15:31:51] <curly-brace> bugzbunny, yes ram is half used, half buffered and even there are some megs free[15:35:35] <conor> could be islolated to Dolphin[15:35:54] <curly-brace> bugzbunny, yeah, there is A LOT output[15:36:16] *** othniel <othniel!~manjaro-k@105.9.241.74> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:36:31] <curly-brace> conor, but i can't switch system filemanager even for file dialogs[15:36:38] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has left #manjaro ("Manjaro Strit is available at www.strits.dk!")[15:36:44] *** othniel <othniel!~manjaro-k@105.9.241.74> has joined #manjaro[15:39:11] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@191.52.64.28> has joined #manjaro[15:39:30] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Remote host 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<manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@191.52.64.28> has joined #manjaro[16:10:59] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.225.139> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:13:26] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@191.52.64.28> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:13:49] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@191.52.64.28> has joined #manjaro[16:14:03] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.147.49> has joined #manjaro[16:14:35] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@191.52.64.28> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:14:59] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@191.52.64.28> has joined #manjaro[16:15:04] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[16:19:37] *** bugzbunny <bugzbunny!~bugzbunny@95.72.170.240> has joined #manjaro[16:20:26] <superbia2> kde is generally unoptimized piece of blob[16:21:12] <superbia2> where the developers drop some older hardware[16:21:29] <peetaur2> I don't find anything hw specific, just memory requirements were high for KDE4[16:21:56] <superbia2> peetaur2: friend was a swore kde fangirl before kde 4?[16:22:02] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:22:16] <superbia2> now its kde5 right?[16:22:29] <peetaur2> for whatever reason, it's now "plasma5"[16:22:32] <superbia2> so he was using kde3 i guess, and kde4 was a nono[16:22:45] <superbia2> ok he stoped before plasma4[16:22:56] <Jeannie> The precessor was called SC4[16:23:03] <peetaur2> kde4 was much nicer looking, but ate so much memory, that older machines wouldn't run it... needed maybe 1.5GB minimum[16:23:23] <conor> youre not the only one, Curly-Brace https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/3j3s0k/is_there_a_kdialog_replacement/[16:23:23] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/vwpbiM] (link was unresponsive: https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/3j3s0k/is_there_a_kdialog_replacement/)[16:23:55] <peetaur2> and early plasma5 was actually more stable than kde4... but plasma5 still isn't perfect http://oi63.tinypic.com/1zmzbqp.jpg :)[16:23:56] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/PzK2hv] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[16:24:16] <peetaur2> that bug is new since about 1.5 weeks[16:24:21] <curly-brace> why hexchat lauches firefox if chrome is default in my system lol[16:24:28] <curly-brace> conor, thanks[16:24:29] <superbia2> peetaur2: its not a bug[16:24:44] <peetaur2> superbia2: you mean my png?[16:24:50] <superbia2> peetaur2: its a a feature[16:25:43] <superbia2> fuck its hot[16:25:51] * superbia2 awaits rain[16:25:55] <peetaur2> superbia2: yeah it saves space to write the clock over top the tray icons :P[16:26:15] <peetaur2> also nobody needs to read "PM" and "AM" anyway.. it's obvious, so that's fine written off the right side of the screen[16:26:22] <conor> its very hot[16:26:31] <peetaur2> no please no more rain...[16:26:35] <superbia2> peetaur2: its a call for you to learn military time[16:26:38] <peetaur2> just a bit of partly cloudy sky is enough[16:27:15] <bugzbunny> nobody needs to read PM/AM? Lies![16:27:34] <curly-brace> nobody[16:27:49] <Jeannie> Only people who refuse to use the metric system need am/pm[16:27:52] <superbia2> Mon Jul 25 16:27:52 CEST 2016[16:28:08] <superbia2> metric system is shit one way or the other[16:28:20] <bugzbunny> /no one is forced to use the metric system/[16:28:37] *** manjaro-web|2734 <manjaro-web|2734!18a581d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.165.129.211> has joined #manjaro[16:29:09] <manjaro-web|2734> does anybody here no how to run team viewer on manjaro[16:29:31] <manjaro-web|2734> like do you have to spell anything in the term 4 it or idk[16:29:48] <superbia2> the way i got it running was downloading the tar.gz[16:29:50] <superbia2> unpacking it[16:30:07] <superbia2> and starting it from terminal with `./teamviewer` i think[16:30:18] <manjaro-web|2734> so but tar.gz in the term[16:30:36] <superbia2> i downloaded the tar.gz from the official website[16:30:36] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@191.52.64.28> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:30:39] <superbia2> they have linux port[16:30:50] <superbia2> you download that, and just start it and bob's your uncle[16:30:54] <peetaur2> I just use the language people use wherever I am.... in Canada, it was the am/pm junk and metric.... and here it's a mix of am/pm and 24h and metric. So my clock is on am/pm[16:30:57] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@191.52.64.28> has joined #manjaro[16:31:00] <linux-user-rn> I think it's in the aur, don't know if it will work.[16:31:19] *** Oldiesmann <Oldiesmann!~Oldiesman@simplemachines/developer/Oldiesmann> has joined #manjaro[16:31:41] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[16:31:42] <manjaro-web|2734> so download it from there site and then do what[16:31:51] <superbia2> unpack[16:31:59] <superbia2> open terminal inside unpacked folder[16:32:01] <superbia2> ./teamviewer[16:32:02] <manjaro-web|2734> ok brb after downloading it[16:32:37] <Jeannie> install it from the aur instead of downloading it "somewhere"?[16:33:02] <superbia2> manjaro-web|2734: download the "other linux distros version"[16:33:13] <superbia2> manjaro-web|2734: which is "officially unsupported"[16:33:27] <manjaro-web|2734> https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux/[16:33:28] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/jNl3gs] TeamViewer Linux Download[16:33:34] <manjaro-web|2734> which one to choose[16:33:40] *** conor <conor!~conor@mail.hosemaster.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[16:33:40] <Jeannie> yaourt teamviewer, done[16:33:51] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-pjuvckqidukjwbxc> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[16:33:52] <superbia2> manjaro-web|2734: the third one[16:34:01] <manjaro-web|2734> ok thanks bro[16:34:21] <manjaro-web|2734> what the tar.xz[16:34:30] <superbia2> yes[16:34:35] <manjaro-web|2734> ok i have it[16:34:39] <superbia2> unpack it[16:34:52] <manjaro-web|2734> how to do so[16:35:02] <superbia2> use gui[16:35:21] <manjaro-web|2734> i see it in my download list[16:35:34] <superbia2> use file manager[16:35:38] <manjaro-web|2734> ok[16:35:40] <superbia2> then i guess right click[16:35:42] <superbia2> unpack[16:35:54] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[16:36:00] *** D3mian <D3mian!~manjaro-k@181.88.178.117> has joined #manjaro[16:36:07] <Jeannie> Yes, fuck up yoursystem with strange archives instead of installing software the proper way[16:36:11] <manjaro-web|2734> press on extract[16:36:21] <superbia2> manjaro-web|2734: is it extracting?[16:36:25] <manjaro-web|2734> no[16:36:36] <manjaro-web|2734> do u want me 2 press on that[16:36:42] <superbia2> yes[16:36:47] <manjaro-web|2734> ok[16:36:48] <superbia2> if you see extract press that[16:36:49] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.147.49> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:37:11] *** conor <conor!~conor@mail.hosemaster.com> has joined #manjaro[16:37:29] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.147.49> has joined #manjaro[16:38:10] <manjaro-web|2734> ok now there is an folder 4 it[16:38:17] <superbia2> go in that folder[16:38:25] <manjaro-web|2734> ok there[16:38:26] <superbia2> do you see a file called teamviewer?[16:38:35] <manjaro-web|2734> yes[16:38:54] <superbia2> right click on empty space in the folder, and you should see OPEN TERMINAL HERE[16:39:04] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[16:39:04] <superbia2> press that and you should have terminal opened[16:39:43] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[16:39:43] <manjaro-web|2734> i have team viewer thanks a lot[16:39:53] *** deemde <deemde!~deemde@2a02:8109:8980:351c:d714:cd45:7889:76a6> has joined #manjaro[16:40:01] <superbia2> did you type .teamviewer in the terminal to start it?[16:40:15] *** skulltus <skulltus!~skulltus@87-118-147-55.ip.btc-net.bg> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:40:18] <manjaro-web|2734> no it just popped right up[16:40:31] <superbia2> did you double click on teamviewer icon?[16:40:44] <manjaro-web|2734> but i don't have it in my start menu[16:40:50] <manjaro-web|2734> when i spell it in[16:43:22] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[16:43:49] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@191.52.64.28> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:44:17] <manjaro-web|2734> but all in all everything else worked fine[16:45:11] <linux-user-rn> try copying the file that you clicked on to ~/.local/share/applications/[16:46:17] <linux-user-rn> it should be a .desktop file, but you will not see the the extition.[16:46:17] <manjaro-web|2734> where is that located in my docs downloads or idk[16:47:09] <linux-user-rn> the folder that you should copy the file to?[16:48:20] <manjaro-web|2734> so click on create desktop link[16:49:01] <linux-user-rn> if you are trying to put the file into the menu no.[16:49:21] <manjaro-web|2734> ok[16:49:37] <manjaro-web|2734> so how do i put it into the menu[16:49:47] <superbia2> why[16:49:59] <superbia2> what devil forces you to do that[16:50:06] <manjaro-web|2734> sorry for me being stupid lol[16:50:08] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@92-240-128-53.clients.tlt.100megabit.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:50:08] <linux-user-rn> one moment I am takeing a look at the file[16:50:14] <manjaro-web|2734> ok[16:50:23] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@92-240-128-53.clients.tlt.100megabit.ru> has joined #manjaro[16:50:27] <superbia2> have a shortcut on your desktop and voila[16:50:37] <superbia2> or have a folder called sys-utils[16:50:39] <superbia2> or something[16:51:58] <superbia2> peetaur2: do you code?[16:52:50] <peetaur2> superbia2: I can code, and sometimes do... like I built a thing in python to collect smartctl data on all the machines to query with SQL (why the heck doesn't it do that already... it was designed for clusters, but no central reporting? who would use email like it suggests? gah)[16:52:56] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[16:52:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[16:53:14] <superbia2> peetaur2: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/mbj/Mars_Pathfinder/Authoritative_Account.html[16:53:16] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/xF087G] What really happened on Mars? -- Authoritative Account[16:53:53] <manjaro-web|2734> what is the lightest manjaro for low spec pcs[16:53:55] <linux-user-rn> manjaro-web|2734: I'm going to see if I can creat a .desktop file, I thought it would be included.[16:54:19] <manjaro-web|2734> ok thanks linux-user-rn[16:54:27] <superbia2> everything except gnome/kde/cinamon/mate[16:54:45] <peetaur2> superbia2: why did you send me this? some report about some 1997 mars rover?[16:55:15] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:55:38] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[16:55:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[16:55:40] <superbia2> if you want, there are some from pre 97[16:55:44] <linux-user-rn> I think the lightest is i3 but it is a tiling window manager which is different. xfce is also really light.[16:55:55] <superbia2> i was about to shof you the analogy of imcompetent coders[16:55:59] <manjaro-web|2734> jwm or lxqt[16:55:59] <superbia2> that spans across generations[16:56:02] <superbia2> up to today[16:56:04] <manjaro-web|2734> which one is lighter[16:56:24] <superbia2> usualy resulting in stupid rover failures / which are founded by people's tax[16:56:28] <peetaur2> superbia2: did they put systemd on the latest rover and it failed?[16:56:31] <peetaur2> ;)[16:56:40] <superbia2> peetaur2: you dont want to know[16:57:02] <superbia2> did you watch the movie Martian?[16:57:04] <mparillo> For low spec PCs, I run Manjaro Netbook. https://forum.manjaro.org/t/netbook-edition/1068[16:57:06] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/VzVHlq] Netbook Edition - Support for Community Editions - Manjaro[16:57:22] <peetaur2> superbia2: yes[16:57:34] <peetaur2> it was good other than the "USA doesn't know how to do anything, hires China to do it for them"[16:57:40] <manjaro-web|2734> oh ok thanks mparillo[16:57:43] <superbia2> peetaur2: well if you remmember, that guy used this rover from 97 to call back earth[16:57:49] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.148.20> has joined #manjaro[16:57:53] <superbia2> peetaur2: the rover-base-station[16:58:09] <superbia2> peetaur2: this document shows that they have lost it[16:58:46] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[16:58:54] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-178-202-232-195.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #manjaro[16:59:02] <peetaur2> superbia2: I love how their strategy is always some auto-detected error, then reset... rather than just doing it redundantly[16:59:20] *** dustcat <dustcat!~dust-cat@213.56.64.219> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[16:59:32] <superbia2> the thing is, the error in 97 happened when they landed[16:59:45] <superbia2> if it hapened 5 mins earlier while it was free falling to mars[16:59:51] <superbia2> the shoots wouldnt have deployed[17:00:07] <superbia2> but because of luck, it was "OK"[17:00:25] <superbia2> the human resources, the pressure, time-limits.... everything affects the engineers[17:00:42] <superbia2> meanwhile the project costs few hundret millions dollars[17:00:55] <othniel> best low resource audio recorder????[17:01:01] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:01:03] <superbia2> audacity?[17:01:06] *** Manjaro-Strit-1 <Manjaro-Strit-1!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[17:01:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Manjaro-Strit-1[17:01:20] <superbia2> you can record audio in alsa by itself if you dont need the audacity fancy options[17:01:20] *** Manjaro-Strit-1 is now known as Strit_Laptop[17:01:41] <linux-user-rn> manjaro-web|2734: do you see a file calles teamviewer.desktop in the filder you extracted it to?[17:01:50] <superbia2> i ran audacity on pentium p4m with 256 mb ram and it was pretty snappy othniel[17:02:10] <manjaro-web|2734> yes[17:02:10] <othniel> thanks superbia[17:02:23] <othniel> thanks superbia2[17:02:28] <superbia2> np m8[17:02:44] <manjaro-web|2734> well its in my downloads list[17:03:05] <linux-user-rn> ok right click on it and choose copy, I didn't realise it would be there.[17:03:43] <Strit_Laptop> Damn. I'm right on the brink of my wifi radius here. :P[17:03:45] <manjaro-web|2734> ok[17:04:17] <manjaro-web|2734> which one the file or the whole folder[17:04:54] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[17:05:09] <superbia2> Strit_Laptop: how are you m9[17:05:39] <linux-user-rn> now go yo your home folder and find the folder .local It's a hidden folder you may need to enable show hidden filders in your file manager.[17:05:56] <Strit_Laptop> I'm fine. superbia2 . Working on some scripting for Manjaro-ARM.[17:06:10] <superbia2> sizifs job[17:06:19] *** GeekK <GeekK!~opera@195-241-135-183.ip.telfort.nl> has joined #manjaro[17:06:39] <manjaro-web|2734> ok i clicked on show hidden folders[17:06:58] <superbia2> Strit_Laptop: i am working on some voice/assistant woman that takes your commands and does stuff[17:07:06] <linux-user-rn> do you see .local in your home folder?[17:07:10] <manjaro-web|2734> yes[17:07:13] <Strit_Laptop> superbia2, like mycroft, just with womens voices?[17:07:21] <superbia2> Strit_Laptop: like Jarvis[17:07:40] <Strit_Laptop> exactly[17:08:04] *** Donny-Stark <Donny-Stark!~Donny-Sta@s51445dab.adsl.online.nl> has joined #manjaro[17:08:10] <linux-user-rn> ok click on .local then share[17:08:23] <superbia2> Strit_Laptop: mine has sexy voice[17:08:31] <superbia2> Strit_Laptop: and is snappy[17:08:35] <manjaro-web|2734> ok i did so[17:08:41] <Strit_Laptop> hehe. What's it called, superbia2 ?[17:08:59] *** Donny-Stark <Donny-Stark!~Donny-Sta@s51445dab.adsl.online.nl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:09:04] <linux-user-rn> is there a folder called applications[17:09:10] <superbia2> Strit_Laptop: the lady takes many names, but Holiday[17:09:17] <Strit_Laptop> cool[17:09:20] <superbia2> Strit_Laptop: i have a dictionary with the names you can call her[17:09:21] <manjaro-web|2734> yes[17:09:25] *** ggr <ggr!~ggr@m212-119-131-190.cust.tele2.ee> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:09:31] <superbia2> Strit_Laptop: every name can have like user/root restrictions[17:09:56] <superbia2> you can have one woman only to do your kitchen, one for bedroom, one for living room etc.[17:10:06] <superbia2> depending how you call her[17:10:13] <linux-user-rn> ok go into it then right click and choose past[17:10:15] <Strit_Laptop> uuh, one for the bedroom. Like a pornstar voice?[17:10:23] *** Donny-Stark <Donny-Stark!~Donny-Sta@s51445dab.adsl.online.nl> has joined #manjaro[17:10:29] <superbia2> Strit_Laptop: i am to find good pornstar voices for espeak[17:10:43] <Strit_Laptop> hehe[17:11:02] <manjaro-web|2734> paste isn't highlighted[17:11:42] <superbia2> Strit_Laptop: https://www.ivona.com/[17:11:43] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/wQ9WFA] IVONA Text-to-Speech[17:11:48] <linux-user-rn> darn, can you open a new tab and find where you extracted the file to?[17:12:03] *** bugzbunny <bugzbunny!~bugzbunny@95.72.170.240> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:12:12] <linux-user-rn> there is usally a option under file[17:12:25] <superbia2> Strit_Laptop: i love female german, loveley[17:12:51] <manjaro-web|2734> no never mind linux-user-rn[17:13:00] <manjaro-web|2734> you helped out enough[17:13:48] <othniel> wow superbia2 u rock[17:14:00] <linux-user-rn> I'm not doing anything else right now[17:14:07] <superbia2> othniel: i didnt do anything[17:14:20] <manjaro-web|2734> but thanks a whole lot i appreciate you a lot[17:14:34] <manjaro-web|2734> your a cool dude[17:14:40] <linux-user-rn> you know what I will give you one thing to run in the terminal that will do it[17:14:47] <manjaro-web|2734> ok[17:15:34] <linux-user-rn> where did you extract the file to?[17:16:23] <manjaro-web|2734> downloads[17:16:27] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@194.108.3.14> has joined #manjaro[17:17:41] <linux-user-rn> ok this should work:[17:17:43] <linux-user-rn> cp ~/Downloads/teamviewer/teamviewer.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/ && chmod +x ~/.local/share/applications/teamviewer.desktop[17:18:14] <manjaro-web|2734> spell that into the terminal[17:18:54] <linux-user-rn> yes or or copy it[17:19:53] <manjaro-web|2734> so copy all that you have above[17:20:14] <linux-user-rn> yes[17:20:50] <linux-user-rn> if you select them then right click and select copy[17:21:25] <linux-user-rn> then switch to your terminal, right click, and choose past it should work[17:23:54] <linux-user-rn> have you run that?[17:24:34] <manjaro-web|2734> it didnt work[17:24:52] <linux-user-rn> did it give you an error?[17:25:01] <manjaro-web|2734> martell@martell-pc ~]$ cp ~/Downloads/teamviewer/teamviewer.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/ && chmod +x ~/.local/share/applications/teamviewer.desktop[17:25:01] <manjaro-web|2734> cp: overwrite '/home/martell/.local/share/applications/teamviewer.desktop'?[17:25:30] *** manjaro-web|8713 <manjaro-web|8713!574ee97e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.87.78.233.126> has joined #manjaro[17:25:48] <linux-user-rn> ok apperently this was for nuthing what happens if you loggout and back in?[17:26:08] *** manjaro-web|8713 <manjaro-web|8713!574ee97e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.87.78.233.126> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:26:16] *** manjaroDeepin160 <manjaroDeepin160!~Manjaro-D@89.18.47.125> has joined #manjaro[17:26:34] <manjaro-web|2734> so log out of manjaro and log back n[17:26:50] <linux-user-rn> yes it should work[17:27:23] *** manjaro-web|2734 <manjaro-web|2734!18a581d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.165.129.211> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[17:27:38] *** manjaroDeepin160 <manjaroDeepin160!~Manjaro-D@89.18.47.125> has left #manjaro[17:27:53] *** manjaro-web|5133 <manjaro-web|5133!18a581d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.165.129.211> has joined #manjaro[17:28:17] <manjaro-web|5133> ok linux rn i am logged back in[17:28:37] <linux-user-rn> is it in the menu?[17:29:06] *** bugzbunny <bugzbunny!~bugzbunny@p4269189-ipngn24801marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[17:29:15] <manjaro-web|5133> yes[17:29:26] <manjaro-web|5133> :)[17:29:58] <manjaro-web|5133> wait write down that term again so i can keep it[17:30:00] <manjaro-web|5133> please[17:30:20] <manjaro-web|5133> your the man also you got a lot of smarts[17:30:23] <linux-user-rn> that wasn't me, it set it op by the install[17:30:46] *** Softeisbieger <Softeisbieger!~Softeisbi@ip-62-143-13-166.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:30:54] *** deemde <deemde!~deemde@2a02:8109:8980:351c:d714:cd45:7889:76a6> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:31:12] <manjaro-web|5133> so just from me installing it and then logging out and back in thats why it showed up[17:31:28] *** bugzbunn- <bugzbunn-!~bugzbunny@95.181.195.159> has joined #manjaro[17:31:54] <manjaro-web|5133> in the menu[17:32:10] <linux-user-rn> yes I should have had you check to see if it put the file into the menu system[17:32:39] *** Ceber <Ceber!~PHP5-4-45@dslb-092-072-046-075.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:33:38] *** manmi <manmi!~manmi@p4FE17316.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[17:33:54] *** bugzbunny <bugzbunny!~bugzbunny@p4269189-ipngn24801marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:33:58] <manjaro-web|5133> so go to file manager[17:34:08] <linux-user-rn> what?[17:34:25] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@2a02:908:2f32:2960:99a4:29f4:e031:d711> has joined #manjaro[17:34:48] <manjaro-web|5133> oh never mind i am just crazy talking[17:35:04] <manjaro-web|5133> i was just trying to do what u said do[17:35:18] <manjaro-web|5133> linux-user-rn[17:35:37] <linux-user-rn> I was just refelecting on takeing your time for nuthing.[17:36:43] <manjaro-web|5133> haha i know right but u have done a brilliant job[17:37:03] <manjaro-web|5133> hats off to you you deserve it[17:37:13] <linux-user-rn> I didn't do anything[17:37:57] *** manmi <manmi!~manmi@p4FE17316.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:37:59] <manjaro-web|5133> look you helped me alone the way[17:38:16] <manjaro-web|5133> :) because i am extra slow[17:38:42] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[17:39:27] <linux-user-rn> my grandmother is worse it probley took us more time to copy pictures off her cammera[17:39:43] <manjaro-web|5133> lol hahaha[17:39:50] <manjaro-web|5133> hey it happens[17:40:12] <linux-user-rn> yup I feel the same way thinking back on it[17:40:21] <manjaro-web|5133> is there any way i can keep in touch with you in real life[17:41:24] <linux-user-rn> I often logg on to this during the day I'm in the New York time zone[17:41:50] <manjaro-web|5133> oh ok[17:42:19] <manjaro-web|5133> bye thanks for all of you\\r help dude you have a nice day[17:42:41] <manjaro-web|5133> and one more if i want to delete anything that i install how to do so[17:42:59] <linux-user-rn> you to although I didn't help you much[17:43:00] <manjaro-web|5133> because i do have something slowing this pc down kinda[17:43:02] <linux-user-rn> you to although I didn't help you much[17:43:04] <linux-user-rn> you to although I didn't help you much[17:43:07] <linux-user-rn> you to although I didn't help you much[17:43:24] <linux-user-rn> oops I didn't see it appare[17:45:51] *** shuman <shuman!~shuman@d156-119.icpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[17:46:08] *** Manj-1603-Lxqt <Manj-1603-Lxqt!~mau@151.61.202.133> has joined #manjaro[17:46:13] <Manj-1603-Lxqt> io[17:47:10] *** Manj-1603-Lxqt <Manj-1603-Lxqt!~mau@151.61.202.133> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:47:25] <manjaro-web|5133> linux-user-rn[17:47:36] <linux-user-rn> what?[17:48:10] <manjaro-web|5133> ok now that i know how to install teamviewer how can i also uninstall it[17:48:20] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@122.161.238.54> has joined #manjaro[17:48:20] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@122.161.238.54> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:48:20] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has joined #manjaro[17:48:28] <manjaro-web|5133> because i don't want my bro knowing that i have an account[17:48:46] <Wildfyr> Hello[17:49:07] <manjaro-web|5133> also to let you know i have been taking notes[17:49:30] <linux-user-rn> manjaro-web|5133: ask superbia2[17:49:39] <manjaro-web|5133> ok[17:51:58] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@92-240-128-53.clients.tlt.100megabit.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:53:38] *** Donny-Stark <Donny-Stark!~Donny-Sta@s51445dab.adsl.online.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:54:37] <manjaro-web|5133> linux-user-rn wiat isn't it sudo pacman -R[17:54:42] <manjaro-web|5133> wait i meant[17:54:57] *** lifernux <lifernux!~quassel@192.85-87-24.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es> has joined #manjaro[17:55:05] <linux-user-rn> that would be if you installed from the aur[17:55:14] <manjaro-web|5133> oh[17:55:52] <linux-user-rn> how comfterable are you using the terminal?[17:56:02] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has joined #manjaro[17:56:17] *** Kepa <Kepa!~manjaro-k@160.red-79-144-73.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[17:56:24] <manjaro-web|5133> i am great[17:57:04] <Kepa> Hi, anyone using manjaro testing can confirm if redshift is working?[17:57:18] <Kepa> It's not working for me[17:57:27] <linux-user-rn> do you want to completily remove it or just the menu entry?[17:57:30] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-stytxihtcozotnqs> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[17:57:48] <manjaro-web|5133> completely[17:57:59] <manjaro-web|5133> but i know how to get it back[17:58:15] <manjaro-web|5133> i just don't want my bro knowing that i have it installed[17:58:43] <manjaro-web|5133> wait the way you show me will allow me to delete any program from this system[17:58:43] <linux-user-rn> does he use your user or look at your files[17:58:54] <manjaro-web|5133> yes a whole lot[17:59:35] <linux-user-rn> ok can you find the folder nammed teamviewer in your downloads folder?[17:59:44] <linux-user-rn> if so delete it.[17:59:55] <manjaro-web|5133> yes i see two of them[18:00:14] <linux-user-rn> you can delete them both[18:00:42] <manjaro-web|5133> and once i do will it be removed 100 percent from the system[18:00:58] <linux-user-rn> no it is still in the menus[18:01:26] <manjaro-web|5133> ok but how can i remove it 100 percent[18:01:44] <linux-user-rn> if you the entry in ~/.local/share/applications/tamviewer.desktop[18:01:46] <manjaro-web|5133> i am not doing it now i just want to know about doing it[18:02:09] <manjaro-web|5133> what spell n the terminal like copy and paste[18:02:39] <linux-user-rn> ok are you alowse going to be installing to downloads[18:02:56] <manjaro-web|5133> yes[18:03:34] *** jeannie <jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has joined #manjaro[18:03:56] *** Kepa <Kepa!~manjaro-k@160.red-79-144-73.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:04:14] *** jonas18175 <jonas18175!~manjaro-k@p5DC30D36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[18:04:41] <linux-user-rn> rm -r ~/Downloads/teamviewer; rm ~/.local/share/applications/teamviewer.desktop[18:05:19] <manjaro-web|5133> sorry 4 always writing the samething but put that n the term[18:05:26] <manjaro-web|5133> all of it[18:05:29] <manjaro-web|5133> or idk[18:05:50] <linux-user-rn> yes all of that[18:05:54] <manjaro-web|5133> ok[18:06:02] <linux-user-rn> there may be other stuff still on the system which can be found with:[18:06:14] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:2b00:2e59:843:f087> has joined #manjaro[18:06:26] <manjaro-web|5133> martell@martell-pc ~]$ rm -r ~/Downloads/teamviewer; rm ~/.local/share/applications/teamviewer.desktop[18:06:27] *** linux_dream <linux_dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has joined #manjaro[18:06:40] <manjaro-web|5133> thats what popped up[18:07:38] <manjaro-web|5133> oh wow so you did help me uninstall it 100 percent right[18:07:49] <linux-user-rn> that's right[18:08:28] <linux-user-rn> the other thing is "cd /; sudo ls -aR | grep teamviewer" not includeing the quoetes[18:09:20] <manjaro-web|5133> so try cd /; sudo ls -aR[18:09:31] <linux-user-rn> will gie you a list of every were where there is a file of folder that has the name teamviewer in it[18:09:34] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@xdsl-89-0-125-7.netcologne.de> has joined #manjaro[18:09:35] <linux-user-rn> and yes[18:09:40] *** Kepa <Kepa!~manjaro-k@160.red-79-144-73.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[18:10:29] <manjaro-web|5133> var/tmp/systemd-private-6e08faec601c4973babe9b18bf9b01d8-ntpd.service-mWKMTL:[18:10:29] <manjaro-web|5133> . .. tmp[18:10:29] <manjaro-web|5133> ./var/tmp/systemd-private-6e08faec601c4973babe9b18bf9b01d8-ntpd.service-mWKMTL/tmp:[18:10:43] <manjaro-web|5133> thoses r some files[18:11:09] <linux-user-rn> I don't think so[18:11:55] <manjaro-web|5133> oh so that means the you help me delete it all without any trace right[18:12:01] <linux-user-rn> you forgot this in the command[18:12:05] <linux-user-rn> | grep teamviewer[18:12:38] *** manjaro-web|8997 <manjaro-web|8997!5d28cb60@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.93.40.203.96> has joined #manjaro[18:12:42] <manjaro-web|5133> oh so like this cd /; sudo ls -aR | grep teamviewer[18:12:51] <linux-user-rn> yes[18:13:18] *** Manjaro <Manjaro!~mCOLe-Usr@cpc5-epso4-2-0-cust126.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[18:13:19] <manjaro-web|5133> https_iframe-auth.teamviewer.com_0.localstorage[18:13:20] <manjaro-web|5133> https_iframe-auth.teamviewer.com_0.localstorage-journal[18:13:20] <manjaro-web|5133> teamviewer_11.0.57095_i386.tar.xz[18:13:20] <manjaro-web|5133> ls: cannot open directory './run/user/1000/gvfs': Permission denied[18:13:20] <manjaro-web|5133> teamviewer.svg[18:13:20] <manjaro-web|5133> teamviewer.svg[18:13:29] <Manjaro> hi anyone[18:13:42] <Manjaro> ???[18:13:45] *** manjaro-web|8997 <manjaro-web|8997!5d28cb60@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.93.40.203.96> has left #manjaro[18:13:47] <Manjaro> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![18:13:54] <linux-user-rn> if there is a file you can't find then do "cd /; sudo ls -aR | less" and in less type / to search then teamviewer[18:14:07] <Manjaro> ?[18:14:24] <linux-user-rn> what is is Manjaro[18:14:33] <Manjaro> v vxcw h[18:14:42] *** Manjaro <Manjaro!~mCOLe-Usr@cpc5-epso4-2-0-cust126.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:15:03] <manjaro-web|5133> ok so that way i can always know for sure that all of the files in the download is deleted right[18:15:59] <linux-user-rn> yes both ways those last two commands will only show you if there are any files left you then have to delete them manually[18:16:24] <manjaro-web|5133> how do you delete them manually[18:17:51] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@176.233.220.76> has joined #manjaro[18:17:52] <linux-user-rn> you can find them in the file manager, or use rm -r if it is a folder or just rm fo a file.[18:18:30] *** Kepa <Kepa!~manjaro-k@160.red-79-144-73.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:18:45] <linux-user-rn> rm is remove -r is for recursive put the full path to the file after the rm or rm -r.[18:19:05] <linux-user-rn> BE CARFUL NOT TO DELETE ANYTHING IMPORTANT.[18:20:18] <manjaro-web|5133> so how do i but it in teamviewer form[18:20:39] <manjaro-web|5133> is it rm - r teamviewer[18:22:42] <linux-user-rn> that would delete the file teamviewer in the current directiry. Should use the full path to the file, which you can usally find in the second command I gave you.[18:25:53] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:26:13] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.60> has joined #manjaro[18:26:35] <manjaro-web|5133> wait is there a way for you to remote control my pc[18:26:41] <manjaro-web|5133> from your end[18:27:08] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.159> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:27:34] <manjaro-web|5133> i wrote down all of those commands as well for future uses[18:27:44] <linux-user-rn> probley but I don't want to do it.[18:28:03] <Strit_Laptop> All that trouble with teamviewer. You know there's an AUR package that works, right?[18:28:15] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dbahqmhhilmbarki> has joined #manjaro[18:28:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[18:28:24] <manjaro-web|5133> ok nvm then but thank you[18:28:41] *** jonas18175 <jonas18175!~manjaro-k@p5DC30D36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[18:28:47] <jeannie> If you don't download and unpack archives in a most noobish way but install them the manjaro/arch way, you won't need to fiddle around with removing them[18:30:20] <linux-user-rn> I would agrey that the aur is the way to go but manjaro-web|5133 chose to download from the site.[18:30:40] <jeannie> Cause someone here envouraged him, yes[18:31:27] <manjaro-web|5133> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/teamviewer[18:31:28] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/vPOc3d] AUR (en) - teamviewer[18:31:30] <manjaro-web|5133> is that it[18:32:24] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@188.146.129.158.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl> has joined #manjaro[18:32:27] <linux-user-rn> manjaro-web|5133: if you can install through the aur using yaourt teamviewer and then rem0ove using sudo pcman -Rsn teamviewer[18:32:44] <linux-user-rn> yes it is[18:33:01] <linux-user-rn> but yaourt is easyier[18:35:32] <manjaro-web|5133> which one do you download on the aur site[18:35:59] <jeannie> you don't "download packages from a site", this is not windows[18:36:41] <linux-user-rn> Do it through yaourt teamviewer and choose the entry named teamviewer[18:37:05] <manjaro-web|5133> i'm talking about like do i download the snap shot[18:37:21] <jeannie> what snapshot?[18:37:27] <manjaro-web|5133> on aurs site[18:37:41] <linux-user-rn> no you dont do it from the browser[18:37:54] <manjaro-web|5133> oh ok now i got it[18:37:55] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:38:02] <linux-user-rn> yaourt teamviewer does everything for you[18:38:14] <manjaro-web|5133> wow smh at myself lol[18:38:24] <manjaro-web|5133> i am a jack ass[18:38:50] <mtn> manjaro-web|5133: the gui package manager will install it, even easier![18:39:18] <linux-user-rn> Did you switch from mac or windows recentily?[18:39:31] <manjaro-web|5133> windows[18:39:46] <manjaro-web|5133> and yeah that is the reason why i am so far behind[18:39:54] <jeannie> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta[18:39:55] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/jhCqHt] Pacman/Rosetta - ArchWiki[18:39:58] <jeannie> Pacman[18:40:19] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-187-108.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:40:49] <linux-user-rn> I thought so you don't seem to understand the packagemanager yet, in linux you rarely download from a website[18:41:44] *** manjaro-web|5133 <manjaro-web|5133!18a581d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.165.129.211> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:42:23] *** yabbes_ <yabbes_!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[18:43:31] *** manjaro-web|6793 <manjaro-web|6793!18a581d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.165.129.211> has joined #manjaro[18:43:42] <manjaro-web|6793> does system mechanic work on linux[18:44:25] <manjaro-web|6793> it is an pc tune up tool[18:44:28] *** IamRight <IamRight!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[18:44:33] <jeannie> This is not windows[18:44:48] *** ggr <ggr!~ggr@143-122-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #manjaro[18:44:50] <manjaro-web|6793> oh sorry i was just checking[18:45:12] <jeannie> And if you don't stp thinking outside windows paradigms and start thinking in lunix paradigms, you won't be happy with your new os[18:45:21] <jeannie> Sorry for my typos[18:45:26] <mtn> manjaro-web|6793: basic questions like that can be easily answered using a search engine[18:45:39] <manjaro-web|6793> so linux doesn't slow down over time on ssds[18:47:53] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@46.197.149.93> has joined #manjaro[18:48:15] *** Ace0r <Ace0r!~aceor@184.68.170.134> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:48:31] <manjaro-web|6793> solid state drives i meant[18:49:56] *** linux <linux!18a581d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.165.129.211> has joined #manjaro[18:50:51] <linux> hi anybody i here[18:50:59] <mtn> maybe[18:51:14] <linux-user-rn> depends[18:51:18] * mtn thinks that is the silliest question on irc[18:51:20] *** linux <linux!18a581d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.165.129.211> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:51:29] <mtn> proves my point[18:51:41] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@176.233.220.76> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:52:25] <manjaro-web|6793> mtn can you answer my question please above and then im gone[18:52:35] <manjaro-web|6793> i just want to know[18:53:16] <mtn> manjaro-web|6793: did you ask it on google first?[18:53:37] <jeannie> If you enable trim, linux on ssds won't slow down[18:54:00] *** Ace0r <Ace0r!~aceor@184.68.170.134> has joined #manjaro[18:54:03] <jeannie> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives[18:54:04] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/mfWqZd] Solid State Drives - ArchWiki[18:54:14] <manjaro-web|6793> how do you enable trim in linux[18:54:41] <manjaro-web|6793> mtn https://www.google.com/#q=does+linux+slow+down+over+time+on+ssds[18:54:41] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/7YSKCk] Google[18:54:48] <jeannie> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives/Tips_and_tricks#TRIM[18:54:49] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/5WIxKa] Solid State Drives/Tips and tricks - ArchWiki[18:56:01] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[18:56:27] <manjaro-web|6793> i still don't know how to install trim but never mind[18:56:34] <mtn> manjaro-web|6793: did you ask it on google first?[18:56:41] <jeannie> RTFL![18:57:05] <manjaro-web|6793> yes jeannie sent me a link[18:57:58] *** w30 <w30!~Dubal@2601:245:8100:2347::1> has joined #manjaro[18:58:54] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@46.197.149.93> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:58:59] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@176.233.220.76> has joined #manjaro[19:00:18] *** GeekK <GeekK!~opera@195-241-135-183.ip.telfort.nl> has left #manjaro[19:00:33] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:02:40] *** manjaro-web|6793 <manjaro-web|6793!18a581d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.165.129.211> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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What do I need to install? All those modules too?[19:34:25] <techknight_> w30: just do yaourt virtualbox and choose nr. 25[19:34:45] <techknight_> just remember it needs to know what your kernel version is[19:35:31] <Jeannie> kernel 4.7 is only available in manjaro unstable[19:36:25] <techknight_> from yaourt: "22 extra/linux46-virtualbox-host-modules 5.0.22-1 (linux46-extramodules)" is the module for kernel 4.6.x[19:36:34] <w30> techknight_, how do you choose nr. 25?[19:36:43] <techknight_> write 25 ;9[19:37:00] <techknight_> Jeannie: Do we know when it will be pushed to stable?[19:37:07] <Jeannie> No[19:37:09] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has joined #manjaro[19:37:53] <Jeannie> I have installed kernel 4.7, bit it does not work with the nvidia closed source driver here, so it might take a little while longer[19:38:32] <techknight_> damn :S I need it to test out dell's wd15 dock together with an dell xps 15 9550[19:39:01] <techknight_> but it will first be delivered 10 aug. so there is still some time[19:39:56] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.53.216> has joined #manjaro[19:39:57] <Jeannie> You can always switch to unstable[19:40:07] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@188.146.66.45.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl> has joined #manjaro[19:40:48] <techknight_> yep, but i really won't an unstable system on my daily work/study laptop[19:40:50] <techknight_> ;)[19:41:55] <Jeannie> I have been using manjaro unstable on this laptop for almost 3 years[19:42:32] <Diskord__> ok, and when 16.08 go on stable?[19:43:01] <Jeannie> What's 16.08?[19:43:27] *** Smeef <Smeef!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has joined #manjaro[19:43:39] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@176.233.220.76> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:43:49] *** Smeef <Smeef!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:46:06] *** Eightynine <Eightynine!d4606d49@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.212.96.109.73> has joined #manjaro[19:48:41] <Eightynine> I have just installed Manjaro. It says it will take 40-70 minutes to download updates. It's not my connection problem. What's wrong?[19:48:44] *** Donny-Stark <Donny-Stark!~Donny-Sta@s51445dab.adsl.online.nl> has joined #manjaro[19:49:05] <conor> a lot of updates?[19:49:32] <conor> or estimation could be off. like good old microsoft minutes[19:49:40] <Eightynine> 85 updates 325.9 MB[19:51:09] *** Donny-Stark <Donny-Stark!~Donny-Sta@s51445dab.adsl.online.nl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:51:34] *** Donny-Stark <Donny-Stark!~Donny-Sta@s51445dab.adsl.online.nl> has joined #manjaro[19:52:52] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@xdsl-89-0-125-7.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:53:12] <Jeannie> Only 85 packages? Not that much.[19:53:21] *** anonkun <anonkun!~anonkun@unaffiliated/anonkun> has left #manjaro ("Konversation terminated!")[19:53:59] <Eightynine> I never had such problems with Manjaro before. Probably a bug in Pamac or incorrect pacman settings.[19:54:38] <Jeannie> Old iso[19:54:48] *** gaganjyot <gaganjyot!~manjaro-i@103.252.24.147> has left #manjaro ("leaving")[19:54:48] <Diskord__> Ok, how to reset all xfce4 settings on default[19:54:49] <Diskord__> ?[19:55:53] <Eightynine> Ctrl-A not working to select text. 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They appeared because I changed theme. Switched back to stock and it's working. I'm trying pacman -Syy and then pacman -Suu[20:03:06] <Eightynine> Maximum speed is 144K/s[20:03:20] <balleny0> hi, small question: in case i prefer systemd-bootctl over grub2, is there a way to install (the current RC1) without grub but with bootctl using calamares?[20:03:25] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@80-108-114-171.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has joined #manjaro[20:03:58] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.53.216> has joined #manjaro[20:04:30] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@80-108-114-171.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:06:23] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@80-108-114-171.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has joined #manjaro[20:06:23] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@80-108-114-171.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:07:41] *** techknight_ <techknight_!3e2c8703@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.44.135.3> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[20:07:43] <Eightynine> Manjaro Settings Manager asks to update kernel. Should I do that?[20:10:21] *** donbruno <donbruno!~donbruno@unaffiliated/donbruno> has joined #manjaro[20:11:25] <Jeannie> Why not, you can have multiple kernels installed[20:12:18] <linux_dream> im about to try qemu and install debian in a vm[20:12:40] <Eightynine> I want to change theme and font I hate that ugly theming.[20:12:41] *** tefter <tefter!~bmaxa@109.72.51.248> has joined #manjaro[20:12:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tefter[20:13:43] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[20:13:47] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:14:52] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@cei195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[20:15:33] *** emigrantcz <emigrantcz!~emigrant@ip-37-221-248-225.cust.tlapnet.cz> has joined #manjaro[20:16:12] *** balleny0 <balleny0!b2032378@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.178.3.35.120> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[20:16:42] *** Ceber <Ceber!~PHP5-4-45@dslb-088-077-091-189.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[20:17:59] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@80-108-114-171.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has joined #manjaro[20:17:59] *** manjaroi3 is now known as eviaac[20:18:15] *** eviaac <eviaac!~manjaro-i@80-108-114-171.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has left #manjaro[20:18:59] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@80-108-114-171.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has joined #manjaro[20:19:21] *** w30 <w30!~Dubal@2601:245:8100:2347::1> has left #manjaro ("Exit; stage left")[20:19:28] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@80-108-114-171.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has left #manjaro[20:20:36] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:20:42] *** eviacc <eviacc!~eviaac@80-108-114-171.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has joined #manjaro[20:21:06] <linux-user-rn> How do I list the dependecies of a package using pacman?[20:21:34] *** Dark_Blue_Bird <Dark_Blue_Bird!~Shark@89.204.153.97> has joined #manjaro[20:21:48] <Dark_Blue_Bird> hello can anybody help me with my network problems[20:21:48] <Dark_Blue_Bird> ?[20:22:36] <donbruno> Dark_Blue_Bird: please ask :-)[20:23:21] <Dark_Blue_Bird> okay so I'm connected to my router with my wifi card (wireless connection) have an ipv4 and ipv6 but can't ping my gateway nor google.com so I don't have an internet connection. while this card worked with arch Linux out of the box idk why its not with manjaro cause its based on arch so I'm also assuming the driver is already in the kernel.[20:24:47] *** eviacc <eviacc!~eviaac@80-108-114-171.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:25:50] *** einseenai <einseenai!~einseenai@92.243.167.185> has joined #manjaro[20:25:51] <donbruno> and what says "iwconfig"?[20:26:17] *** thenewone <thenewone!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[20:28:09] <linux-user-rn> is pacman -Qd <package name> the correct command to view a list of dependices for the package that is locally installed?[20:29:01] <donbruno> Dark_Blue_Bird: or ip link show ???[20:32:34] <donbruno> linux-user-rn: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/pacman[20:32:34] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/1obmS2] pacman - ArchWiki[20:33:12] <linux-user-rn> ok I think I am on the right trac with pactree.[20:36:35] <Dark_Blue_Bird> or ip link show?[20:36:50] *** jonas18175 <jonas18175!~manjaro-k@p5DC30D36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[20:37:28] *** Yans <Yans!~yans@unaffiliated/yinsen> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:38:06] <donbruno> "ip link show"[20:39:38] <Eightynine> How can I change American standarts to Europe? I mean time, date, etc.[20:42:25] <Jeannie> We dont want american standards here in europe ;)[20:43:06] <Eightynine> Yes, they are stupid. I don't want month first and then day.[20:43:07] <linux-user-rn> check the manjaro settings manager.[20:43:34] <Eightynine> There's only English-US and English-UTF8[20:44:04] <linux-user-rn> use the add button[20:44:12] <Dark_Blue_Bird> any network experts here?[20:44:37] *** Ceber <Ceber!~PHP5-4-45@dslb-088-077-091-189.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[20:45:03] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.53.216> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:45:36] *** Manj-1605-Lxqt <Manj-1605-Lxqt!~nataly@95-29-114-115.broadband.corbina.ru> has joined #manjaro[20:46:07] *** Manj-1605-Lxqt <Manj-1605-Lxqt!~nataly@95-29-114-115.broadband.corbina.ru> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:46:55] <donbruno> Dark_Blue_Bird: thx :-)[20:47:10] <linux-user-rn> Eightynine: did you find what you were looking for under add?[20:47:53] <Dark_Blue_Bird> what?[20:47:53] <Eightynine> I added russian language and selected it for formats but still I see that Sunday is first day in calendar.[20:47:56] <Dark_Blue_Bird> what?[20:48:35] <linux-user-rn> did you change that under date and time?[20:48:55] <Eightynine> No.[20:48:58] <mike-zal> Eightynine: you need to set locale, date/time and language are not enough[20:49:12] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.53.216> has joined #manjaro[20:49:14] *** siml1 <siml1!~siml1@2a02:8389:2300:f80::2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:49:25] <linux-user-rn> go to date and time to chang e the date and time[20:49:41] <Eightynine> It dropped to English.[20:49:54] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[20:50:00] <linux-user-rn> what?[20:50:32] <Eightynine> I understood I selected Quit not Apply.[20:50:42] <Jeannie> KDE?[20:50:57] <Eightynine> No, XFCE.[20:51:19] *** Ceber <Ceber!~PHP5-4-45@dslb-088-077-091-189.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[20:51:32] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[20:51:57] * Jeannie shuders. XFCE...[20:52:03] <Dark_Blue_Bird> how to install wifi driver in manjaro?[20:52:34] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-12907.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:52:59] <Eightynine> What next? Reboot?[20:53:29] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:56:55] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@91.195.137.201> has joined #manjaro[20:58:14] *** Dark_Blue_Bird <Dark_Blue_Bird!~Shark@89.204.153.97> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[20:59:21] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.53.216> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:59:29] *** lifernux <lifernux!~quassel@192.85-87-24.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:59:59] *** Dark_Bl92 <Dark_Bl92!~Shark@178.162.198.111> has joined #manjaro[21:00:02] <Dark_Bl92> hello[21:00:07] *** Dark_Bl92 <Dark_Bl92!~Shark@178.162.198.111> has quit IRC (Quit: -a- IRC for Android 2.1.31)[21:00:48] <manjaro-jwm> hello[21:01:39] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-178-202-232-195.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:03:08] <manjaro-jwm> there are people who uses jwm?[21:05:50] <manjaro-jwm> *are there people which use JWM? )[21:06:15] <Eightynine> No, I didn't like it.[21:06:58] *** Spec-Chum <Spec-Chum!~Russ@host86-145-189-236.range86-145.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[21:06:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Spec-Chum[21:07:01] *** Manj-811-Xfce2 <Manj-811-Xfce2!~goosegrea@75-140-111-38.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[21:07:15] <Manj-811-Xfce2> hi[21:09:08] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@xdsl-89-0-125-7.netcologne.de> has joined #manjaro[21:10:00] *** thid <thid!~thid@2a00:f41:3814:a823:bc92:4829:3783:6200> has joined #manjaro[21:10:01] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[21:12:54] <manjaro-jwm> I have a weak netbook and JWM works on it exactly, but I can not set two keyboard layouts. I should to write every start command in terminal : setxkbmap "" bla-bla[21:14:56] <thid> JWM? rly?[21:15:26] <Jeannie> The joys of simple wms[21:15:59] <thid> I would roll with openbox o_O[21:18:01] *** manjaro-jwm_ <manjaro-jwm_!~manjaro-j@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[21:18:13] *** w30 <w30!~Dubal@2601:245:8100:2347::1> has joined #manjaro[21:18:14] <thid> but oh well ppl use what they want[21:19:44] *** vinini <vinini!~vini@5.29.197.95> has joined #manjaro[21:19:54] <Jeannie> Yes, use what you want, but then don't complain about anual configiration in text files[21:20:01] *** Kartenmann <Kartenmann!~manjaro-k@p5DD832ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[21:20:24] <thid> ^ true that[21:20:25] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[21:20:32] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@112.90.147.49> has quit IRC (Quit: Nishikino-Maki)[21:21:57] <manjaro-jwm> ok[21:23:48] <manjaro-jwm> but i don't complain. i think that anybody had similar problems[21:23:48] <mike-zal> manjaro-jwm: not many jwm fans tonight... sometimes it's different[21:24:17] *** donbruno <donbruno!~donbruno@unaffiliated/donbruno> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.5")[21:24:28] <Jeannie> I stay away from wm systems as far as possible[21:24:52] <manjaro-jwm_> I have ben looking for a JWM channel as we speak[21:24:55] <thid> manjaro-jwm, https://forum.manjaro.org/t/keyboard-layout-jwm/5303[21:24:56] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/dNLeVC] Keyboard layout JWM - Support for Community Editions - Manjaro[21:25:20] <mike-zal> I generally stay out of lightweight DEs, exept lxqt maybe[21:26:25] <mike-zal> gotta go for now[21:26:28] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@cei195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:27:44] *** einseenai <einseenai!~einseenai@92.243.167.185> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:29:08] <Eightynine> How to configure pacman to use fastest mirror?[21:29:46] <superbia2> Jeannie: 7:50:18 manjaro-web|5133 | hi do you know how to uninstall teamviewer[21:29:56] <linux-user-rn> one minute I have somepthing[21:29:58] <superbia2> Jeannie: he didnt even installed it, he just ran the executable[21:30:54] <mparillo> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Rankmirrors_to_Set_the_Fastest_Download_Server[21:30:55] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/MdpE9n] Rankmirrors to Set the Fastest Download Server - Manjaro Linux[21:31:55] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dbahqmhhilmbarki> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[21:32:11] <linux-user-rn> <Eightynine> sudo pacman-mirrors -g should work[21:32:33] *** manjaro_user <manjaro_user!~manjaro-k@p5B298152.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[21:32:34] <Eightynine> Thank you. Forgot that command.[21:33:05] *** manjaro_user <manjaro_user!~manjaro-k@p5B298152.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:33:06] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.53.216> has joined #manjaro[21:33:09] <linux-user-rn> no problem[21:34:36] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has joined #manjaro[21:34:41] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@91.210.105.101> has joined #manjaro[21:34:56] <Eightynine> http://pastebin.com/UbaccTpi please, check that[21:34:58] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/Ous5S7] File "/usr/bin/pacman-mirrors", line 53, in <module> pm.run() File "/usr - Pastebin.com[21:37:18] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: mmh mmh bang bang boom boom pop pop)[21:39:22] *** w30 <w30!~Dubal@2601:245:8100:2347::1> has left #manjaro ("Exit; stage left")[21:40:59] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...)[21:41:16] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.53.216> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:41:48] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.53.216> has joined #manjaro[21:41:50] *** diskord_ <diskord_!~diskord@178.120.53.216> has joined #manjaro[21:44:26] *** diskord_ <diskord_!~diskord@178.120.53.216> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:44:27] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.53.216> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:45:38] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.53.216> has joined #manjaro[21:47:05] <superbia2> linux-user-rn: u up?[21:49:14] <linux-user-rn> what is it[21:49:34] <superbia2> u in chat mood?[21:49:41] <linux-user-rn> mabey[21:49:48] *** bugzbunn- <bugzbunn-!~bugzbunny@95.181.195.159> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[21:50:43] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[21:51:42] *** thid <thid!~thid@2a00:f41:3814:a823:bc92:4829:3783:6200> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:55:44] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[21:59:17] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.28> has joined #manjaro[21:59:52] <Eightynine> What's wrong with my system? I can't run pacman mirrors or rankmirrors, I'm getting errors.[22:00:38] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@188.146.66.45.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:00:54] <conor> its probably user error[22:01:01] <conor> :p[22:01:30] <Eightynine> How can I fix that? Did you open my pastebin link?[22:02:45] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@xdsl-89-0-125-7.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:02:45] <conor> it says the link has been removed[22:03:03] <conor> This page is no longer available. It has either expired, been removed by its creator, or removed by one of the Pastebin staff.[22:03:27] <Eightynine> Yes, I set 10 minutes.[22:03:34] <conor> shit send it again[22:03:47] <mtn> Eightynine: put it on dpaste.com, not pastebin, please[22:04:12] <Eightynine> Is pastebin bad?[22:04:13] <mtn> Eightynine: many of us don't like pastebin[22:04:26] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has left #manjaro ("Manjaro Strit is available at www.strits.dk!")[22:04:40] <Eightynine> http://dpaste.com/3P1GS3W[22:04:43] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/o0zbGJ] dpaste: 3P1GS3W[22:05:52] <mtn> Eightynine: is that a fatal error? does't really look like one to me[22:06:15] *** vinini <vinini!~vini@5.29.197.95> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:06:33] <mtn> Eightynine: how about this command: sudo pacman-mirrors -g that is the one for manjaro[22:06:40] <Eightynine> It takes long to update packages using terminal and too long when using Pamac.[22:08:25] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yvbjfrepephymfwu> has joined #manjaro[22:08:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[22:08:49] <Eightynine> Same problem.[22:09:08] <mtn> Eightynine: please paste the error.[22:09:13] <mtn> Eightynine: has it been this way since you installed manjaro?[22:10:20] <Eightynine> Yes, and by the way Pamac shows updates with delay or only if I sync using terminal.[22:11:33] <mtn> Eightynine: has it been this way since you installed manjaro?[22:11:41] <Eightynine> Yes.[22:12:57] <mtn> Eightynine: if you run pacman -Syu how well does it work? any "delays"?[22:13:55] <Eightynine> http://dpaste.com/0SAEJ4F[22:13:56] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/SkABZU] dpaste: 0SAEJ4F[22:15:00] <mtn> Eightynine: ok, looks like your mirrorlist has been misconfigured. you need to fix it. hopefully you have a new one or a backup[22:16:05] <Eightynine> It has been damaged when I saw that download speed is pretty slow and tried to choose fastest mirror.[22:16:17] *** w30 <w30!~Dabel@2601:245:8100:2347::2> has joined #manjaro[22:16:35] *** linux-user-rn <linux-user-rn!~linux-use@72.15.26.234> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[22:16:37] <mtn> Eightynine: so it is worse than when you installed it. you really need to fix it. ;)[22:17:17] *** manjaro-jwm_ <manjaro-jwm_!~manjaro-j@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:18:06] <Eightynine> Can I just get Arch mirrorlist?[22:19:41] *** superbia2 <superbia2!~superbia@unaffiliated/lafemme> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.5")[22:19:46] <mtn> Eightynine: no, manjaro does not use arch mirrors.[22:20:50] *** linux-user-rn <linux-user-rn!~linux-use@72.15.26.234> has joined #manjaro[22:21:07] <Eightynine> So how can I do that if command fails to run?[22:21:57] <mtn> Eightynine: look for a backup file or a .new.[22:22:19] <mtn> Eightynine: look in /etc/pacman.d[22:22:56] <mtn> Eightynine: did you manually edit your mirrorlist?[22:23:08] <Eightynine> No.[22:23:15] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[22:23:17] <mtn> Eightynine: you might just be able to fix it[22:23:18] *** pingupingu <pingupingu!~pinguping@131-181-158-141.qut.edu.au> has joined #manjaro[22:23:18] *** pingupingu <pingupingu!~pinguping@131-181-158-141.qut.edu.au> has quit IRC (Changing host)[22:23:18] *** pingupingu <pingupingu!~pinguping@unaffiliated/pingupingu> has joined #manjaro[22:25:43] <Eightynine> In old Manjaro versions I had buggy Pamac and buggy installer but system worked better and had better theming and fonts. New versions have better installer but buggy package manager and theming is total crap. System is ugly.[22:26:12] *** manjaro-rw <manjaro-rw!~manjaro-r@37.155.181.130> has joined #manjaro[22:26:48] <mtn> Eightynine: I haven't had any problems with the package manager in any version of manjaro. perhaps your install failed in some way?[22:28:03] <Eightynine> I started installation using Calamares and when it reached 22-23% I went to shower. When I returned installation was complete and asked for reboot.[22:28:52] <mtn> Eightynine: well, if package management was broken since the beginning, something obviously went wrong. or you broke it the install. one or the other.[22:29:03] <mtn> after the install[22:29:49] <mtn> Eightynine: perhaps you can use a web browser and download a new mirrorlist?[22:30:22] <Eightynine> Maybe I should restart installation with Thus or update system before installation?[22:30:30] <Jeannie> What's buggy about the "package manager"?[22:30:50] <mtn> Eightynine: "update system before installation"? how does that work?[22:30:51] <Eightynine> About using browser to download a new mirror list, I can do it.[22:31:13] <Eightynine> I mean start LiveCD and apply updates. Is that possible?[22:31:25] <mtn> Eightynine: to an uninstalled system? no[22:32:05] <Jeannie> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Rankmirrors_to_Set_the_Fastest_Download_Server[22:32:06] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/oJQA8k] Rankmirrors to Set the Fastest Download Server - Manjaro Linux[22:32:31] <mtn> Jeannie: his mirrorlist is missing or completely broken[22:33:05] <Jeannie> Is it? Has anyone seen it?[22:33:07] <mtn> Jeannie: http://dpaste.com/0SAEJ4F[22:33:07] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/SkABZU] dpaste: 0SAEJ4F[22:33:45] <mtn> Jeannie: I have been trying to get him to look in the folder to see if there is a backup. no response[22:33:46] *** w30 <w30!~Dabel@2601:245:8100:2347::2> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[22:33:59] <Jeannie> THat does not look good, but that's not the mirrorlist[22:34:19] <mtn> Jeannie: really? where else does pacman look for the mirrors?[22:34:19] <Eightynine> Jeannie: I mean old versions could lock database or I had to install some updates, check again and then install all updates. In version 16 or 15 I had problems installing packages using GUI.[22:34:36] <Jeannie> That's just the output of a terminal[22:35:03] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@91.195.137.201> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:35:18] <mtn> Jeannie: what? that makes no sense. of course it is the output of the terminal. it was run in the terminal[22:35:31] <Jeannie> /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist[22:35:39] <Jeannie> That's the path to the mirrorlist[22:35:57] <mtn> indeed it is[22:36:24] <Jeannie> Now it would be interresting to see it's contents[22:36:39] <mtn> I have tried to get him to look, but.....[22:36:56] <mtn> Jeannie: maybe you will have better luck ;)[22:39:04] <Eightynine> That file is empty.[22:39:41] <mtn> Eightynine: like I said, you need a new one. any backups or .pacnews?[22:39:46] <Jeannie> sudo pacman-mirrors -g[22:40:34] <mtn> he said he just ran that with some errors[22:40:45] <Eightynine> I tried to make backup. Is it in pacman.d?[22:40:59] * Jeannie wonders how to backup an empty file[22:41:05] <mtn> heh[22:42:07] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@91.195.137.201> has joined #manjaro[22:42:20] <Eightynine> It's definitely something wrong with installation. Maybe I should try Thus? What you guys used to install Manjaro?[22:43:01] <Jeannie> sudo setup[22:43:05] <mtn> Eightynine: I personally think you broke it after the install.[22:43:22] <Jeannie> Want my mirrorlist?[22:43:32] <Eightynine> Let's try.[22:45:04] <Eightynine> Jeannie: you will be Genie if you could help me. :D[22:45:16] <Jeannie> http://pastebin.com/63FnJ8QT[22:45:17] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/gLXgGN] ## ## Manjaro Linux repository mirrorlist ## Generated on 26 April 2016 17:12 - Pastebin.com[22:45:36] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Quit: back to home planet weechat 1.5)[22:45:39] <Jeannie> paste that as superuser into your etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist file[22:45:52] <Jeannie> Then save it and run the rankmirrors command[22:46:06] <Jeannie> sudo pacman-mirrors -g[22:46:21] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:49:06] <Eightynine> So, I saved it then checked for updates and it showed 151 updates.[22:49:43] *** manjaro-rw <manjaro-rw!~manjaro-r@37.155.181.130> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:49:48] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200::bc4f> has joined #manjaro[22:50:07] <Jeannie> Did you run the rankmirrors command?[22:50:12] <Eightynine> And now I can exclude updates I don't need.[22:50:22] *** manjaro-rw <manjaro-rw!~manjaro-r@37.155.181.130> has joined #manjaro[22:50:48] <Eightynine> No, I didn't. I saved file and then clicked on Pamac icon and clicked Update manager. It began syncing.[22:50:56] <mtn> Eightynine: you should not pick and choose your updates. you should install all of them[22:50:59] *** manjaro-rw <manjaro-rw!~manjaro-r@37.155.181.130> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:51:04] <Jeannie> I agree on that[22:51:14] *** lefanbro <lefanbro!~Unknown@46.165.242.166> has joined #manjaro[22:51:17] <lefanbro> hello[22:51:21] <lefanbro> i tried mount -o remount,rw /dev/sr0 /mnt; but tha shows error?[22:51:28] <lefanbro> so how can i moutn it as read write on cd?[22:51:33] <lefanbro> Unable to mount blank DVD-R disc. Location is already mounted error?[22:51:44] <lefanbro> i can't mount cd it says read only file system, when i use dd to burn it.[22:51:53] <mtn> lefanbro: you can't mout blank disks[22:52:03] <lefanbro> i cant dd it either to burn it[22:52:16] <mtn> lefanbro: you need a file system to be able to mount a disk[22:52:35] *** D3mian <D3mian!~manjaro-k@181.88.178.117> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:53:06] <Eightynine> About 2-3 minutes to download more than 400 MB updates. I call you Genie :D[22:53:09] <mtn> lefanbro: have you tried using brasero to make a dvd?[22:53:23] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[22:53:35] <lefanbro> i prefer command line though[22:53:39] <lefanbro> havent installed it[22:53:49] <Eightynine> Yes, it's better and stable.[22:53:54] <lefanbro> mount -o remount,rw /dev/sr0 /mnt shows error?[22:53:54] <mtn> lefanbro: why on earth would you want command line to burn a dvd? shudder[22:54:03] <lefanbro> dd is my fav[22:54:03] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[22:54:20] <mtn> lefanbro: you can not mount a blank disk. I repeat. you can not mount a blank disk[22:54:35] <lefanbro> no i always use dd[22:54:47] <conor> what about sudo mount blank disk[22:54:51] <Eightynine> Jeannie: and mtn thank you very much for helping me.[22:54:51] <conor> ? :p[22:54:58] <mtn> Eightynine: yw[22:55:00] <lefanbro> earlier it did work but now says unreadable fs[22:55:04] <lefanbro> unwritable i mean[22:55:47] <mtn> lefanbro: probably not blank anymore[22:56:40] *** manjaroDeepin160 <manjaroDeepin160!~Manjaro-D@201-78-51-31.user.veloxzone.com.br> has joined #manjaro[22:57:20] *** manjaroDeepin160 <manjaroDeepin160!~Manjaro-D@201-78-51-31.user.veloxzone.com.br> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:58:10] *** lifernux <lifernux!~quassel@192.85-87-24.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es> has joined #manjaro[22:58:30] <lefanbro> earlier i did dd a lot of isos on cd/dvd =manjaro ,arch ubuntu, but now after some time its not working[22:59:06] <lefanbro> mtn ? why cant this time i am unable to use a low level utility but earlier was able to-say tails which needs dd[22:59:19] <Eightynine> yw means you're welcome? I'm not familiar with slang.[22:59:58] *** alekzanther <alekzanther!~alekzanth@90-225-37-196-no148.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #manjaro[23:00:15] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Quit: the mac is asleep)[23:01:54] <mtn> Eightynine: yes, you're welcome[23:03:00] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@91.195.137.201> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:03:31] *** tumbler <tumbler!~tumbler@unaffiliated/tumbler> has joined #manjaro[23:04:44] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[23:06:43] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[23:07:51] *** Masterpotatoman <Masterpotatoman!~User3@66.242.210.183> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:07:51] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:12:25] *** lifernux <lifernux!~quassel@192.85-87-24.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:15:14] <lefanbro> mtn i got the solution[23:15:22] <lefanbro> dd is not supposed to work[23:15:33] <lefanbro> mtn http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/68426/how-to-burn-iso-image-to-dvd-using-dd-command[23:15:34] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/FoQ0DM] burning - How to burn iso image to DVD using dd command - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange[23:16:15] <mtn> lefanbro: I didn't think dd was for cd/dvds, but was not sure[23:16:30] <mtn> lefanbro: you sounded like you knew what you were talking about :P[23:17:49] <lefanbro> no the people from other channels told me[23:18:43] <lefanbro> cdrecord works or growisofs or wodim i will note it down in a diary[23:19:43] <mtn> lefanbro: or just use the easy good gui apps they kindly wrote and included for you :P[23:20:06] <jonas18175> hi[23:20:12] *** Masterpotatoman <Masterpotatoman!~User3@66.242.210.183> has joined #manjaro[23:20:14] <jonas18175> i have a problem with systemd and polkit, it will not start anymore[23:20:31] <jonas18175> when i start polkitd manualy under the path with same options it work correctly[23:20:42] <jonas18175> how can i fix it?[23:21:14] <mtn> jonas18175: what does systemctl status tell you ?[23:21:43] <jonas18175> it tell timeout[23:21:58] <mtn> jonas18175: no other errors?[23:22:04] <jonas18175> no[23:22:29] <mtn> jonas18175: is this the same package as the default install or are using a custom systemd service file?[23:22:57] <jonas18175> I haven't installed any packages at this time, i only restartet and than the polkit don't work anymore[23:23:14] <jonas18175> it is the default systemd service file[23:23:43] *** manjaro-web|7598 <manjaro-web|7598!4fe1d1d7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.225.209.215> has joined #manjaro[23:24:14] <mtn> jonas18175: hmm, I wonder what you changed?[23:24:24] *** manjaro-web|7598 <manjaro-web|7598!4fe1d1d7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.225.209.215> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:24:32] *** emigrantcz <emigrantcz!~emigrant@ip-37-221-248-225.cust.tlapnet.cz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:24:40] <lefanbro> mtn why do you work so hard for hours clarifying others questions tirelessly?[23:24:54] <lefanbro> mtn are you not tired?[23:24:57] *** emigrantcz <emigrantcz!~emigrant@ip-37-221-248-225.cust.tlapnet.cz> has joined #manjaro[23:25:07] *** yabbounic <yabbounic!~yabbes@108.61.123.78> has joined #manjaro[23:25:09] *** yabbounic <yabbounic!~yabbes@108.61.123.78> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:25:28] <jonas18175> i have only used the firewall-cmd and i have edited /etc/systemctl/network-scripts/ifconf-eth0 and added ZONES="internal"[23:25:48] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[23:25:58] <mtn> jonas18175: it worked fine before you did that?[23:26:06] <jonas18175> yes[23:26:24] <mtn> jonas18175: well, then you know what causes the problem![23:26:39] <jonas18175> but i don't know what is the problem[23:26:47] <mtn> jonas18175: you left the most important part out[23:27:02] <jonas18175> i didn't see a problem on firewall-cmd[23:27:15] *** Eightynine <Eightynine!d4606d49@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.212.96.109.73> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[23:27:20] <jonas18175> The last reboot is a while ago from this point[23:27:34] *** yabbounic <yabbounic!~yabbes@104.238.169.75> has joined #manjaro[23:27:36] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200::bc4f> has left #manjaro[23:27:58] *** yabbounic is now known as Guest84799[23:28:07] <jonas18175> But i didn't install any packages.[23:28:29] <jonas18175> Can systemd give me more informations about this?[23:28:34] *** Guest84799 is now known as yabbes-[23:29:04] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@2a02:908:2f32:2960:99a4:29f4:e031:d711> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:29:22] *** linux-user-rn <linux-user-rn!~linux-use@72.15.26.234> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[23:30:01] *** abuglubu <abuglubu!~yabbes@108.61.123.70> has joined #manjaro[23:30:07] <mtn> jonas18175: maybe look at journalctl?[23:30:12] <jonas18175> yes[23:30:41] *** abuglubu is now known as yabbes[23:30:48] <pingupingu> hello guys, when can I expect the next stable release out of testing? mainly looking for kde 5.7.2[23:32:43] <mtn> pingupingu: when it is ready, I imagine ;)[23:32:51] *** linux-user-rn <linux-user-rn!~linux-use@72.15.26.234> has joined #manjaro[23:32:54] <Jeannie> 5.7.2 is already in testing, why not switch to that branch?[23:33:11] *** yabbes- <yabbes-!~yabbes@104.238.169.75> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:33:19] <pingupingu> mtn, yeah any ideas when it will be ready? :)[23:33:24] *** linux_dream <linux_dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:33:26] *** emigrantcz <emigrantcz!~emigrant@ip-37-221-248-225.cust.tlapnet.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:33:38] <mtn> pingupingu: that implies "when" is is ready, and not earlier[23:33:49] <pingupingu> Jeannie, its my devel machine and I would not want it to break now[23:34:14] <Jeannie> I have been using manjaro unstable on one of my productive machines for years[23:34:21] <pingupingu> right thanks mtn , just thought someone would know[23:34:33] <jonas18175> jounalctl give me no error but systemctl status polkit[23:34:35] <mtn> pingupingu: no time table. yw[23:34:57] <pingupingu> righto[23:35:25] <Jeannie> My other production machines run arch stable, which is even more "unstable" than manjaro unstable. you could switch to testing, upgrade only kde and switch back to stable[23:35:54] <jonas18175> http://pastebin.com/BAU7pCPN[23:35:55] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/i5tY0E] Jul 25 23:33:46 XS-Template dbus-daemon[562]: dbus[562]: [system] Activating via - Pastebin.com[23:36:17] <pingupingu> jonas18175, did you see if there is a log file for polkit? last time I was debugging a service.. forgot what the service was.. I had to look up the config for it and it specified the log file path and looking through that game me the answer but that info was not on the journalctl for the process for somereason[23:36:50] <pingupingu> Jeannie, ohh I didnt know that could be done for only a set of packages[23:37:46] <Jeannie> It's some work, you'd need to exclude everything but KDE from being updated[23:38:24] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[23:38:34] <pingupingu> right.. I guess I will just wait for the release :)[23:39:14] <Jeannie> Or maybe, upgrade testing, exclue plasma5 from upgrades, switch back to stable and up- or rather downgrade everything but plasma 5. That might be less work[23:39:17] *** linux_dream <linux_dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has joined #manjaro[23:39:22] <jonas18175> I have updated the start line to Exec=/bin/sh -c 'G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd > /tmp/polkitd.log 2>&1' now[23:39:40] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-187-108.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[23:40:45] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.28> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:40:48] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[23:50:08] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!wmedrano@nat/google/x-wcqfdjbtzyltvqjz> has joined #manjaro[23:55:30] *** thenewone <thenewone!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has joined #manjaro[23:55:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v thenewone[23:59:54] *** Nixola <Nixola!~nix@unaffiliated/nixola> has joined #manjaro[23:59:59] <Nixola> hi everyone