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[00:02:08] <ringo32> :lol
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[00:09:31] <ben_chile> thanks for that "yes" suportive I guess Manjaro-kde5-Lwr
[00:09:35] <ben_chile> lol
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[00:13:54] <ringo32> hej ben_chile
[00:14:58] <ben_chile> ringo32 hola
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[00:17:14] <ringo32> all ok .?
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[00:19:41] <ben_chile> ringo32 do you know of a cli to check if compton is activated ? I installed compton ( as compton -b) in manjaro linux and deactivated metacity compositing settings as false
[00:20:05] <ringo32> ps aux | grep compton
[00:20:06] <ringo32> ?
[00:20:18] <ben_chile> I am using manjaro deepin btw
[00:21:16] <ben_chile> muchas gracias ringo32
[00:21:25] <ben_chile> that did the the trick
[00:21:36] <ben_chile> ps aux | grep compton
[00:21:41] <ringo32> lol
[00:21:50] <ben_chile> thanks a lot ! ringo32
[00:22:02] <ringo32> :likes Xfce
[00:22:22] <ben_chile> well then I am still having that video tearing issue
[00:22:52] <ringo32> intel?
[00:23:25] <ben_chile> I will modify my intel etc/x11/mhwd.d file configuration
[00:23:29] <ben_chile> yep
[00:23:33] <ben_chile> intel
[00:24:01] <ben_chile> compton did not solve it
[00:25:03] <ringo32> pastebin /etc/X11/mhwd.d/intel.conf ?
[00:25:04] <ben_chile> I once did this with a different intel laptop by adding a line in etc/x11/mhwd.d file
[00:25:42] <ben_chile> gracias ringo32 you've been awesome help .. as usual lol
[00:26:56] <ben_chile> http://dpaste.com/2BWXEPS
[00:26:58] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/qknhbJ] dpaste: 2BWXEPS
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[00:27:50] <ben_chile> I added that Option "TearFree" "True"
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[00:28:04] <ben_chile> I am gonna restart and check now brb
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[00:29:36] <ringo32> tooo fast
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[00:31:17] <ringo32> TearFre could not work cause of DRI3 option i think
[00:31:53] <ringo32> but i dont know
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[00:32:07] <ringo32> qoute from arch wiki : This option should not be needed with DRI3 enabled.
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[00:33:22] <ben_chile> hmm you are right ... still got tearing video issue
[00:35:04] <ringo32> and switch of composition?
[00:36:03] <ben_chile> switch of composition ?
[00:36:10] <ringo32> yeah?
[00:37:03] <ben_chile> you mean like using deepin's own metacity composition ?
[00:37:21] <ringo32> all switch off?
[00:37:36] <ringo32> but
[00:37:43] <ringo32> compton can be more configured
[00:38:15] <ringo32> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Using_Compton_for_a_tear-free_experience_in_Xfce
[00:38:16] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/fnPbQ3] Using Compton for a tear-free experience in Xfce - Manjaro Linux
[00:38:19] <ben_chile> I used that typical free tearing compton.conf file
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[00:39:38] <ben_chile> yep I used this one
[00:40:47] <ben_chile> created both files compton.conf and compton.desktop
[00:43:15] <ringo32> where does always tears?
[00:44:08] <ben_chile> just in media and video players
[00:44:19] <ben_chile> in VLC and MPV
[00:44:39] <ben_chile> not during video streaming
[00:45:18] <ben_chile> maybe I did not place this compton.conf in the right folder
[00:46:00] <ringo32> which folder?
[00:46:12] <ben_chile> it is rightly placed : Compton can be configured by editing ~/.config/compton.conf
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[00:49:51] <ringo32> sync vblank is on?
[00:50:20] <ringo32> pacman -Qs libva
[00:50:21] <ringo32> ?
[00:51:23] <ben_chile> Video Accelertion API for Linux
[00:51:35] <dodgejcr> morning
[00:51:40] <ringo32> its installed ?
[00:51:54] <ben_chile> yes
[00:52:06] <ben_chile> morning dodgejcr
[00:52:27] <ringo32> paste bin vainfo ?
[00:52:53] <ben_chile> local/libva 1.7.1-1 Video Acceleration (VA) API for Linux
[00:52:58] <ben_chile> ok
[00:53:33] <ringo32> libva-intel-driver ?
[00:53:58] <ben_chile> http://dpaste.com/0E5RS98
[00:54:00] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/69Bv89] dpaste: 0E5RS98
[00:54:29] <ben_chile> nope
[00:54:35] <ringo32> install those
[00:54:38] <ben_chile> libva-intel driver is not installed
[00:54:42] <ben_chile> k
[00:55:10] <dodgejcr> looks like you guys are having fun
[00:55:31] <ben_chile> done ringo32
[00:55:39] <ben_chile> lol yeah we are
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[00:56:14] <ringo32> look this in https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/VLC_media_player#Hardware_acceleration_support
[00:56:14] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/7ayEQ5] VLC media player - ArchWiki
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[00:56:36] <ringo32> have to see if you have to configure more https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Hardware_video_acceleration#Installing_VA-API
[00:56:37] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/MW6r4J] Hardware video acceleration - ArchWiki
[00:56:38] <ben_chile> http://dpaste.com/35VJRQR
[00:56:40] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/rOZOAS] dpaste: 35VJRQR
[00:56:51] <ringo32> but if acceleration work proper then it should stop tearing?
[00:56:55] <ben_chile> reading ti now
[00:56:58] <ben_chile> it
[00:57:08] <ben_chile> yeahh
[00:58:54] <ringo32> some effect?
[00:59:53] <ben_chile> still tearing
[00:59:59] <ben_chile> damn it
[01:00:35] <ringo32> what is vainfo ?
[01:02:47] <ben_chile> http://dpaste.com/0W5BF8X
[01:02:48] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/C0VI8M] dpaste: 0W5BF8X
[01:04:45] <ben_chile> very weird
[01:05:09] <ben_chile> logging out
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[01:07:54] <ben_chile> ringo32 thanks for your help ..I will keep reading and trying later.. must go errands now
[01:08:03] <ringo32> ok
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[01:24:09] <linux-user-rn> does anyone know what updatedb.service is?
[01:24:30] <linux-user-rn> I want to disable because it acording to systemd-analyze blame it is takeing 45 seconds to start.
[01:26:17] <ringo32> systemctl mast xxxx.service
[01:26:20] <ringo32> mask*
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[01:26:25] <ringo32> systemctl mask
[01:26:41] <dodgejcr> should be the update tool that tells you whether or not there are any package updates
[01:26:59] <ringo32> there as a better solution too
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[01:27:17] <ringo32> updatedb is a part of man-db , should be doing once
[01:27:32] <dodgejcr> yeah, it does alot more than just say there are updates
[01:27:56] <ringo32> linux-user-rn, try mandb --create
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[01:29:38] <dodgejcr> hrm, apparently that is not the cause of boot times. It doesnt prevent you from getting a desktop.
[01:30:08] <dodgejcr> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82084
[01:30:11] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/mW2Amh] 82084 – RFE: Allow for random startup delay (or even spread) in timer units
[01:34:44] <linux-user-rn> I'm a little confiused here. Now I know that it is a part of mandb, but I am not sure how the rest of ties in.
[01:35:33] <ringo32> try mandb --create , you can try out if it works
[01:37:14] <linux-user-rn> How does that effect weather or not I can disable the service? if I run that it soesn't through an error.
[01:37:38] <ringo32> you can disble the error..
[01:38:54] * ringo32 makes my self new databases got 32sec on blame
[01:39:41] <ringo32> lol see lot of fault :p
[01:39:43] <linux-user-rn> what? there is no error. I just want to know if I can disable it.
[01:40:05] <ringo32> on my got errors :)
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[01:41:02] <ringo32> http://i.imgur.com/h7qfbPE.png
[01:41:03] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/NYAZKT] (not a web page, content type: image/png)
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[01:46:43] <linux-user-rn> I'm back, did I miss anything?
[01:49:47] <ringo32> no
[01:49:59] <vexare> is manjaro still stuck on stable, lol?
[01:50:15] <vexare> cause i get like updates each 2 days on testing
[01:50:39] <vexare> at this rhythm i don't think there will be any stable release soon
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[01:51:10] <ringo32> vexare, testing updatesis same as arch now
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[01:51:21] <linux-user-rn> so can I disable updatedb.service?
[01:51:48] <vexare> oh cool
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[02:01:40] <manjaro-kde5__> often times i have horrible lag on programs like Atom,Discord Canary, and skype alpha. would anyone know what would cause that
[02:01:53] <ringo32> vexare, problem inconstincy is bad
[02:02:19] <ringo32> but i am offf ,
[02:02:21] <ringo32> bye all
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[02:08:49] <manjaro-kde5_> hey i have a question, i just got into using manjaro and i cant open any steam games as an error message comes up, can anyone help me out?
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[02:15:24] <Diskord__> Sup guys, what is /dev/snapshot?
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[02:16:25] <manjaro-kde5__> i think alot of people are asleep,
[02:17:06] <dodgejcr> we are all asleep :D
[02:17:16] <Diskord__> (
[02:17:52] <manjaro-kde5__> i take it no one knows my issue then
[02:18:00] <Diskord__> but what is it? It's connected to memory or webcam?
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[02:19:56] <dodgejcr> Diskord__: Im not 100% certain but I thiknk it has something to do with suspending the machine
[02:20:12] <dodgejcr> definitely not your webcam
[02:20:42] <dodgejcr> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/power/userland-swsusp.txt?id=HEAD <-- more info
[02:20:43] <Diskord__> ok, webcam is video0
[02:20:44] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/E5ICH0] kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
[02:20:52] <dodgejcr> usually something similar yes
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[02:21:25] <Diskord__> thnx)
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[02:21:39] <dodgejcr> no problem
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[03:09:31] <CRzzz> Hi, anyone online?
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[03:25:06] <johnblood> gotta quick question
[03:25:13] <johnblood> I think my installer goofed up
[03:25:32] <day|flip> how come?
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[03:27:06] <johnblood> I have an 80 GB HD and according to Caja my home folder has 7.4 GB free
[03:27:29] <day|flip> that weird
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[03:28:16] <day|flip> FILE SYS Used Total
[03:28:27] <day|flip> (sda2) 5.44G 469G
[03:28:43] <johnblood> I'll post a picture of gparted in a sec
[03:30:01] <day|flip> df -Th
[03:30:42] <johnblood> hastebin.com/ugosuraqel.erlang_repla
[03:31:31] <johnblood> I used Manjaro Mate 15.12's calamares
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[03:32:33] <day|flip> lsblk -f
[03:33:14] <johnblood> http://hastebin.com/ahipokunik.hs
[03:33:15] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/bvp5ES] hastebin
[03:33:50] <johnblood> the manhunter partition is a dvd
[03:33:59] <johnblood> gotta take a shower - BRB
[03:34:34] <johnblood> back in 10
[03:34:40] <day|flip> johnblood: from what I'm taking it as. you only have one real main partition that sdb2 witch is your root. is 15Gb
[03:35:11] <day|flip> and have a external hdd that being using in the /run/media
[03:35:45] <johnblood> the only usb plugged into my laptop is for my mouse
[03:37:43] <day|flip> weird thing is the sda1 partition set in /run/media. it have more hd space. but it not a home folder. your sda2 is your root and everything else
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[03:43:44] <lenovo> hello there
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[03:44:24] <Guest69595> I have a problem with reading my last parttition with manjaro_kde OS
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[03:46:31] <manjaro_kde> I have a 1tb hard disk, a UEFI boot which had ubuntu OS from factory.. then installed manjaro and erased the disk and created an sd2 for manjaro while sd1 said it was fat32 uefi boot esp
[03:47:32] <manjaro_kde> then I wanted to have manjaro kde installed in a different partition
[03:49:41] <manjaro_kde> so I selected this manjaro_kde to have it installed as alongside option, then it shrank my hd into a new 475gb partition named sd5 and intallation proceeded and then I restarted and it continues to booot in sd2 old manjaro partition only
[03:49:49] <manjaro_kde> Can anyone help me please ?
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[03:50:31] <manjaro_kde> this hd has never had any windows Os installed previously
[03:53:41] <manjaro_kde> it is like my new sd5 parttitioon is not mounted for it does not appear in the grub ( which only shows the old manjaro partition and boots)
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[03:54:54] <johnblood> day|flip, I think I goofed it up when I resized the partitions with GParted on a stick
[03:55:05] <johnblood> I just installed so, I'll reinstall it
[03:55:13] <johnblood> That'll be the fasted way
[03:55:36] <johnblood> *fastest
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[03:57:58] <manjaro_kde> can anyone help please ?
[03:58:54] <day|flip> will here the weird thing. sda2 is your only partition witch have a fs or file system. and anything set in media or /run/media <--- same thing. but it used for external hd
[03:59:02] <day|flip> johnblood: ^^
[04:01:07] <manjaro_kde> how can I update my grub or edit it and add my new sd5 partition with my 2nd manjaro OS so I can see both and select any form grub?
[04:02:22] <day|flip> /etc/fstab
[04:02:43] <day|flip> is used for loading to your system
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[04:03:40] <manjaro_kde> do I have to access from my only active sda parttiton or from a flash drive ?
[04:04:38] <day|flip> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Restore_the_GRUB_Bootloader <--- manjaro_kde you could have a look at this. i kinda got confuse with the sd1 normally there a nther letter. like a or b or c ect
[04:04:39] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/6lIg49] Restore the GRUB Bootloader - Manjaro Linux
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[04:06:08] <day|flip> Restore GRUB is what you might be asking. but I don't have a uefi mobo
[04:08:12] <manjaro_kde> day|flp I am reading and trying these restoring steps right now
[04:08:15] <manjaro_kde> thanks
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[04:24:51] <manjaro_kde> damn this update grub for a uefi sda boot is a pain in the ass
[04:27:06] <day|flip> it alway like that when you learning something new.
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[04:30:27] <day|flip> I thought when having to install the nvidia driver in tty3 I was going pull all my hair out way back then. It was stressfull and anying the hell out me when they keep getting me to dl 64bit driver for a 32 bit computer. ooo how many time it took me till I learn that it was the wrong arch/bit(not the linux os).
[04:31:24] <day|flip> i'm talking about way back in 8.04
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[04:35:30] <manjaro_kde> day|flip I am doing my best
[04:35:36] <manjaro_kde> testing it now
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[04:36:04] <manjaro_kde> that wiki is very messy though
[04:36:34] <manjaro_kde> it worked !!!
[04:36:56] <manjaro_kde> I could do it !! in such a messy written steps
[04:39:14] <day|flip> manjaro_kde: here the thing. I been using linux for a long time. But what you have done. I have not. Normally don't dual boot anymore Just keep in one os and that it
[04:39:16] <manjaro_kde> thanks for that big help day|flip
[04:39:55] <day|flip> manjaro_kde: no problem. I 'm glad i was able to up help turn your day around :)
[04:39:56] <manjaro_kde> well I been using linux for a long time though a newbie in arch and manjaro
[04:40:12] <manjaro_kde> lol yeeahh you did
[04:40:57] <manjaro_kde> day|flip last year I had this same problem
[04:41:17] <day|flip> will I you used salix os. it a slackware base distro. this help me learn around about installing and reading and understandthing in the terminal
[04:41:36] <day|flip> this is before I used arch linux
[04:42:01] <manjaro_kde> and I just did not want to go on..so I erased and re installed just one manjaro Os ..day|flip but not this time
[04:42:14] <day|flip> back before arch remove there script installer. witch look kinda like manjaro cli-installer to day
[04:42:26] <manjaro_kde> omg
[04:42:38] <manjaro_kde> terminal is still hard for me
[04:42:49] <manjaro_kde> cli seems to confusing
[04:43:31] <day|flip> manjaro cli-installer is really stright forward. unless you want to partition your disk your own way
[04:43:43] <day|flip> then thing can get a little hard
[04:44:09] <manjaro_kde> but as I told you that wiki is messy difficult to follow for it moves from one system and cuts you in half into another system (manually) and then you continue but sequence is lost
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[04:45:07] <manjaro_kde> I re read it 3 times so >it could make sense to me
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[04:45:36] <manjaro_kde> but you can discover the way out ! lol
[04:45:37] <day|flip> most of the time we point people to the arch wiki. since manjaro can still used. but other time it easier to fallow the manjaro wiki
[04:46:38] <manjaro_kde> I have read from both and consider manjaro wiki as more explicit and easier than brief arch wiki
[04:47:09] <manjaro_kde> messy but long explicit so you can discover your solution
[04:47:17] <day|flip> for wifi. I like to follow arch linux wiki. tons of good info
[04:48:04] <manjaro_kde> yes arch has too many more issues and feedback along these years
[04:49:12] <manjaro_kde> I am happy I could messily do it and I could even select my initial root manjaro os to start in the grub order
[04:49:14] <day|flip> I'm still not ok with systemd. witch is why I used manjaro openrc. very good init
[04:49:55] <manjaro_kde> what about drivers for printers using openrc ?
[04:50:01] <day|flip> if I need the speedy bood. runit init is just as fast as systemd
[04:50:04] <manjaro_kde> does it work better?
[04:51:04] <day|flip> for me. I get really piss is I can't thing to boot or shutdown. systemd tens to bitch about something at time. and openrc just does it job and shutdown
[04:51:25] <manjaro_kde> well thanks again, I dont wanna disturb you any longer
[04:51:41] <day|flip> I try to help people when I can
[04:51:56] <day|flip> I don't know everything.
[04:52:07] <manjaro_kde> you've been a big help
[04:52:09] <day|flip> sometime i have idea what it is
[04:52:17] <manjaro_kde> lol
[04:52:35] <manjaro_kde> see you day|flip
[04:52:41] <day|flip> take care
[04:52:45] <manjaro_kde> u2
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[05:24:37] <Brenton32839> Question .. I see the same program available in aur as in regular but it says 'svn' version. What is the difference
[05:31:55] <day|flip> Brenton32839: svn or git ect
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[05:33:08] <day|flip> but with svn. you get the most up to date. same for git
[05:33:32] <day|flip> but you'll be compiling it so slower installing
[05:33:49] <Brenton32839> well a mame front in is in the regular repo. But flipping over to aur I see the same program accept its labeled svn version. What's different
[05:33:50] <day|flip> if you see something with let say bin
[05:34:00] <day|flip> bin = binary install
[05:34:40] <Brenton32839> What does svn mean
[05:34:54] <day|flip> subversion or something like that
[05:35:00] <dodgejcr> yup subversion
[05:35:11] <dodgejcr> like github
[05:35:27] <Brenton32839> And by it being a sub version what is different
[05:35:30] <day|flip> or how you used git in the first place
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[05:35:51] <dodgejcr> directly from the source instead of a binary that is already compiled
[05:36:22] <dodgejcr> it gets the latest version
[05:36:50] <day|flip> ^^ to at that is. your be more update. if you look that the pkbuild. more then likly they say this version. but really you just isntalled the lasted. same for git
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[05:36:59] <Brenton32839> Oh. Its a later version. So it just means I compiled it on my machine. Does that mean its prone to function better
[05:37:10] <dodgejcr> not necessarily
[05:37:33] <dodgejcr> for most things probably not tbh.
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[05:39:09] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[05:39:39] <dodgejcr> hey CountryfiedLinux
[05:39:46] <robin0800> Brenton32839, if the repo version isn't working the git version might because the bug may have been fixed
[05:40:00] <Brenton32839> ah ok
[05:40:23] <dodgejcr> that is also a possibility
[05:40:51] <day|flip> if i remember. smplayer upload everything in svn
[05:41:52] <dodgejcr> there are alot of projects that do that im sure
[05:42:43] <day|flip> svn git or there a third one for google. it start with a "m"
[05:43:58] <dodgejcr> M?
[05:44:34] <dodgejcr> theres google code, thats the only thing I know from google
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[05:48:26] <zero-ghost> markdown :-p
[05:48:37] <day|flip> no no no
[05:49:00] <day|flip> markdown is another code web doc thing
[05:49:30] <dodgejcr> lol
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[05:51:58] <dodgejcr> mercurial?
[05:52:03] <dodgejcr> day|flip^
[05:52:08] <day|flip> bam bam
[05:52:29] <dodgejcr> lol I dont think they use that
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[05:52:47] <dodgejcr> I remember something about them saying that it was an option when they got rid of the previous one they had before piper
[05:53:13] <day|flip> i remember having to used it to download the source code
[05:53:27] <dodgejcr> hrm, recently?
[05:54:04] <day|flip> back in the days i used to play stepmania. first they used svn then they upload the code to google. now there on github
[05:54:39] <day|flip> the one with google needed mercurial
[05:55:22] <dodgejcr> doesnt surprise me. I remember them trying stuff out way back
[05:55:26] <day|flip> but since. I don't play the game anymore I don't really follow it
[05:55:28] <dodgejcr> like 2011-2012
[05:55:51] <dodgejcr> but thats when they made the huge merge to piper and git for most of their stuff
[05:57:04] <day|flip> i did not know about that
[05:57:43] <day|flip> I was some idit that played a ddr game for the pc. and play file that kills your hands
[05:58:35] <dodgejcr> I thikn they really like their piper setup that they have now. All the internal stuff works with it and for anything the users need they usually publish with git
[06:00:26] <day|flip> that stupid game got me into linux
[06:00:57] <day|flip> here a some song i was able to do. and btw this is not me. don't really have a youtube acc at all
[06:00:59] <day|flip> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ax0bR8JMg
[06:01:00] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/TLIWuP] La campanella [Stepmania] - YouTube
[06:01:50] <dodgejcr> that looks fun
[06:02:25] <day|flip> i'm not kidding. this shit kills your hands
[06:03:06] <dodgejcr> hrm, might try it out
[06:03:15] <dodgejcr> in the AUR lol
[06:03:29] <day|flip> it been in the aur since 2011
[06:03:35] <day|flip> or 2012
[06:03:36] <day|flip> idk
[06:04:01] <day|flip> btw this guy made a hard file look easy
[06:04:25] <dodgejcr> ofc
[06:04:38] <dodgejcr> you just hitting keys or actually typing something important
[06:05:02] <day|flip> having a hearing lost I make it look hard
[06:07:03] <day|flip> let see if I can find my smo acc. see if it still around
[06:07:05] <day|flip> lol
[06:09:07] <Brenton32839> Like something sick guitar hero stuff
[06:10:10] <day|flip> ya. but been around longer
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[06:10:39] <Brenton32839> So using the svn I can get specific older version like if I wanted mame 1.51 specific for a rom set
[06:11:09] <dodgejcr> with some editing of the PKGBUILD perhaps
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[06:11:44] <dodgejcr> and that depends on whether or not the code maintainers have any sort of snapshotting or milestone available
[06:11:57] <dodgejcr> if not, you can try to get the exact commit but that might not be stable at all
[06:12:26] <Brenton32839> I'm putting Atari games on here :)
[06:13:30] <dodgejcr> lol
[06:13:32] <dodgejcr> very nice
[06:14:07] <dodgejcr> I have several emulators on my desktop. When my son gets 'bored' with any of his xbox/ps4 games I show him the real stuff
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[06:15:59] <day|flip> dodgejcr: tbh. the real stuff is what give you good game play. now and days it dark soul series
[06:16:11] <day|flip> even though it a hard game
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[06:16:45] <dodgejcr> meh, hes only 9
[06:16:53] <day|flip> dodgejcr: did you show him street of rage?
[06:17:18] <vexare> gameboy color games were pretty cool
[06:17:19] <dodgejcr> nah, its on there but I let him pick
[06:17:27] <dodgejcr> he will find it eventually Im sure
[06:17:52] <day|flip> it a very good beat m up games
[06:18:04] <dodgejcr> He likes sega/snes the best so Im sure he will find it soon
[06:18:13] <dodgejcr> yeah, I remember it :D
[06:18:19] <vexare> kids now playing pokemon go like games will miss the original stuff
[06:18:20] <day|flip> vexare: that was my first game boy :)
[06:18:46] <vexare> cartridge games were the best :P
[06:18:57] <dodgejcr> ha, I was almost too old when GBC came out. I had the OG for the longest
[06:19:04] <day|flip> the nintendo nx may have cartridge
[06:19:05] <dodgejcr> with the light attachement
[06:19:29] <vexare> i had the black and white too
[06:19:39] <dodgejcr> it was the best. Couldnt destroy the thing
[06:19:42] <vexare> played turtles ninja on it
[06:19:42] <Brenton32839> There was a Sega emulator I used to use in Ubuntu. Had a K symbol. I forget what it was
[06:20:39] <dodgejcr> Kega
[06:20:50] <dodgejcr> or kega fusion I thin was the official
[06:20:51] <day|flip> since I did not have the super nintendo. I had sage geniss
[06:20:54] <day|flip> that was fun
[06:21:18] <day|flip> i do say most the better game were still on the super nintendo
[06:21:27] <dodgejcr> yeah they were
[06:21:32] <dodgejcr> cheaper so most people had them
[06:21:38] <dodgejcr> therefore most profit :D
[06:21:47] <dodgejcr> but I remember having both for a little bit.
[06:22:49] <day|flip> beside the sonic. there was one other game i thought that was really good on sega geniss
[06:23:30] <day|flip> aero the acrobat
[06:23:43] <day|flip> i had fun with that game
[06:24:03] <dodgejcr> not sure I remember that one
[06:24:03] <Brenton32839> OK because mame roms stop working if you update name, is there a way I can tell manjaro to not update that one program
[06:24:19] <Brenton32839> Thunderforce
[06:24:28] <dodgejcr> did you install it from aur or repo
[06:24:33] <dodgejcr> aur was the svn version
[06:25:44] <Brenton32839> Mane itself was the regular repo version. The front end was from aur.
[06:26:07] <Brenton32839> And you really don't need a front end now anyway
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[06:28:07] <dodgejcr> you can add it to the ignorepkg list then
[06:28:12] <dodgejcr> check the wiki on how to do that
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[06:55:03] <bugzbunn-> Sega Geneses had the bigger library doh :-p
[06:55:29] <day|flip> and blood
[06:55:33] <day|flip> mk
[06:55:38] <day|flip> :)
[06:56:05] * bugzbunn- was die hard Sega fan before they became 'traitors'
[06:56:57] <day|flip> sega master?
[06:58:06] <bugzbunn-> My first console was a Sage Geneses
[06:58:21] <day|flip> sega master then genesis
[06:58:30] <day|flip> then n64
[06:58:42] <bugzbunn-> I did dab with Gega CD addon for Geneses
[06:58:50] <day|flip> game cube <--- first console I got with my own money
[06:58:55] <bugzbunn-> xD
[06:59:20] <day|flip> then ps3
[07:00:01] <bugzbunn-> After Sega Geneses, then Sega Saturn (my fav). I can recall playing my Audio CDs on my Sega Saturn and watch the cubes bounce ... woot...
[07:00:30] <bugzbunn-> I was like, who needs CD disk changers when I have my Sega Saturn xD
[07:00:39] <day|flip> my parents did not have alot of money
[07:00:44] <bugzbunn-> yeah
[07:01:06] <bugzbunn-> I had to work for mine, I never got a birthday present my entire life
[07:01:19] <day|flip> @_@
[07:01:38] <dodgejcr> hrm, first console I bought with my money was n64. Shit was rough
[07:02:04] <day|flip> that thing was 150usd when it first came out
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[07:02:18] <day|flip> i was trying to get ps at the time
[07:02:32] <bugzbunn-> After that, it was Sega Dreamcast, then Play Station unfortunately, then Play Station 2. After that, I never own a console after that, I am officially a PC gamer now
[07:02:56] <day|flip> I'm not much of a pc gammer
[07:03:13] <day|flip> if anything I my go back and play wow again
[07:03:25] <day|flip> just to see how much have change when i left
[07:03:37] <dodgejcr> I got a PS for xmas that year. Got to love grandparents because my mother couldnt afford it.
[07:04:02] <dodgejcr> but played the n64 alot more. mario64, pilotwings64... many hours wasted
[07:04:13] <bugzbunn-> xD
[07:04:25] <day|flip> majora mask :)
[07:04:43] <day|flip> one my fav zelda games
[07:04:50] <dodgejcr> im not much into zelda
[07:04:56] <dodgejcr> I remember playing it tho
[07:04:59] <day|flip> my fav is wind waker
[07:05:13] <day|flip> on the game cube
[07:05:34] <day|flip> i played the hell out the little guy
[07:05:40] <day|flip> and i still own it
[07:05:57] <dodgejcr> never owned a gamecube
[07:06:03] <dodgejcr> wanted one but couldnt afford it
[07:06:15] * day|flip I'm a day one game cube owner :)
[07:06:18] <bugzbunn-> I can't remember much, except for Super Mario, Sonic, etc, Contra. PS1, Was NFS, Doom... PS2, GTA, Devil May Cry
[07:06:29] <dodgejcr> NFS!!!!!
[07:06:33] <bugzbunn-> xD
[07:06:50] <bugzbunn-> I still play NFS games till this day xD
[07:07:01] <day|flip> NFS?
[07:07:08] <bugzbunn-> Need for Speed
[07:07:09] <dodgejcr> I liked most wanted (the original) but that was the most current one I liked
[07:07:11] <day|flip> oo shit
[07:07:13] <bugzbunn-> Lara Craft
[07:07:22] <bugzbunn-> I rember that
[07:07:26] <bugzbunn-> mega man
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[07:07:39] <day|flip> NFS hot persuite 2 is such as awesome game
[07:07:46] <bugzbunn-> dodgejcr: the new 2012 most wanted is not bad
[07:07:58] <dodgejcr> My #1 PS1 game was grand turismo
[07:08:01] <bugzbunn-> day|flip: Yup, remeber that 2
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[07:08:25] <dodgejcr> hmm, the first hot pursuit was the best tho
[07:08:41] <day|flip> bugzbunn-: did you ever played snowboard kids?
[07:08:51] <day|flip> it a n64 game
[07:08:56] <dodgejcr> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUaVA5ICt_w
[07:08:57] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/6TFXPG] Need For Speed III Hot Pursuit (El Nino + Cops + Fun Cheats) (PS1) (HD) - YouTube
[07:08:59] <Strit_Laptop> Best NFS game I've played was Underground 2. Didn't really care much for any of the others. But then again, I'm a PC gamer
[07:09:50] <dodgejcr> Strit_Laptop: play most wanted on PC. its amazing
[07:10:09] <day|flip> Strit_Laptop: me my friend. we alway try getting the highest drifting score
[07:10:46] <bugzbunn-> I have underground 2 on pc, but it has this bug doh, when in certain circumstances, you can press 2 buttons at once
[07:10:57] <bugzbunn-> can't*
[07:11:21] <bugzbunn-> day|flip: I never owned a N64
[07:11:30] <day|flip> ahh
[07:11:44] <day|flip> i thought someone said they did
[07:11:58] <bugzbunn-> When I was in a Group home once, they SNES, only time I played SNES I think
[07:11:59] <day|flip> ahh
[07:12:09] <bugzbunn-> day|flip: I said I was a Sega fanboi remember lol
[07:12:25] <day|flip> dodgejcr: did you ever played snowboard kids?
[07:12:31] <day|flip> it was him
[07:12:41] <dodgejcr> day|flip: cant say that I did
[07:12:47] <dodgejcr> o at least dont remember
[07:13:19] <day|flip> 007 golden eye?
[07:13:24] <dodgejcr> lol
[07:13:26] <dodgejcr> LOL
[07:13:34] <dodgejcr> of course
[07:13:50] <day|flip> who did not. same for super smash brothers
[07:13:53] <dodgejcr> with 4 friends being super quite as to not wake mom up cuz we played all night
[07:14:15] <dodgejcr> ah yeah SSB same way
[07:14:42] <dodgejcr> and mario party
[07:15:03] <day|flip> i never own. but played at wal mark :)
[07:15:05] <Strit_Laptop> Anyone remember Elite? From the NES.
[07:15:18] <day|flip> nope
[07:15:23] <dodgejcr> ohhh and NFL Blitz. Damn we used to play the hell out of that
[07:15:43] <day|flip> NFL blitz was fun to play at the arcade toos
[07:15:49] <dodgejcr> yeah it was
[07:15:59] <dodgejcr> but bed time for me. Work in 5 hours
[07:16:02] <day|flip> even without cons
[07:16:08] <day|flip> ehhh
[07:16:13] <day|flip> take care dodgejcr
[07:16:35] <bugzbunn-> This brings back so much memories
[07:16:39] <bugzbunn-> How the world changed
[07:17:21] <bugzbunn-> Before MP3 players and Cell Phones....
[07:17:34] <day|flip> it been changing very fast. i don't watch the news. and now that I watch randome clip about world wide stuff. it crazying how everything been changing
[07:19:42] <bugzbunn-> yeah
[07:19:56] <bugzbunn-> I watch news and it's depressing
[07:20:27] <bugzbunn-> I mean, really, I remember when it was peaceful.. There wasn't toooo much about Racism and Terrorism, etc etc
[07:20:30] <bugzbunn-> sigh....
[07:21:05] <day|flip> this is a usa problem. all started with slaves
[07:21:11] <bugzbunn-> this is nice https://www.google.com/search?q=sega+cd&biw=1760&bih=832&tbm=isch&imgil=k_lx70Z4Q2_mAM%253A%253B6-bBnU34UHc29M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.wikiwand.com%25252Fpt%25252FSega_CD&source=iu&pf=m&fir=k_lx70Z4Q2_mAM%253A%252C6-bBnU34UHc29M%252C_&usg=__XW9YwaH3TUD5wImCGBnC5sBA2Qs%3D#imgrc=k_lx70Z4Q2_mAM%3A
[07:21:12] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/EjVHvR] sega cd - Google zoeken
[07:21:43] <bugzbunn-> day|flip: Yeah lol... I go youtube all the and debate world problems.....
[07:22:23] <bugzbunn-> BTW, DVD, was my idea, I thought it first and stole before I could patent it
[07:22:54] <day|flip> ... that was laser disk
[07:23:08] <day|flip> then it became dvd
[07:23:23] <day|flip> then dvd-hd vs bluray
[07:23:29] <bugzbunn-> I know, it was my idea, they stole before I can patent it
[07:24:05] <bugzbunn-> I was 15 at the time I think
[07:24:15] <day|flip> 98?
[07:24:51] <bugzbunn-> More like 93-95
[07:24:51] <day|flip> ahh it was 95
[07:25:22] <day|flip> i was like 8 or 9
[07:25:39] <day|flip> ya i know. I'm so 90's kid
[07:26:06] <bugzbunn-> I was born on 82
[07:26:15] <bugzbunn-> I can't remember much of the 80s
[07:26:27] <day|flip> lol
[07:26:39] <day|flip> 86 was the year i was born
[07:26:55] <bugzbunn-> I see, about 4 years later
[07:27:21] <day|flip> duble dear and america gladitor is what I remember from way back then
[07:27:38] <bugzbunn-> Around 95-2005 was my best years I think
[07:27:45] <day|flip> double dare**
[07:28:15] <bugzbunn-> Pssh
[07:28:22] <day|flip> after 06.... <--- year i grad from hs
[07:28:26] <bugzbunn-> I remember Blade and Matrix the most
[07:28:29] <day|flip> were some the best
[07:28:33] <bugzbunn-> I see
[07:29:27] <day|flip> i was not happy with hs. it was prison to me
[07:29:44] <bugzbunn-> Pff, I know how you feel, I was picked on through my school years
[07:30:50] <day|flip> hell. it was hard for me. Having hear n aids, from 1st to 9 to 10 grade made me staind out way to much
[07:31:59] <bugzbunn-> psssh
[07:32:01] <day|flip> sorry if my spelling is crap. but english was never very good at. math i was better at understnanding
[07:32:24] <bugzbunn-> It's fine, but I think over the years, it made me somewhat stronger....
[07:32:29] <bugzbunn-> Still weak emotionally doh
[07:33:06] <day|flip> same here in some ways. after i was done going the syc wards
[07:33:22] <day|flip> 9th grade if i remember
[07:35:31] <bugzbunn-> How about now lol?
[07:36:01] <day|flip> now I'm stay mostly clam and don't give the fly fuck about half the thing that goes on
[07:36:32] <day|flip> hell I don't drink alot. or smoke
[07:36:47] <bugzbunn-> nice!
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[07:36:47] <day|flip> i don't smoke at all
[07:36:48] <bugzbunn-> xD
[07:37:51] <day|flip> even though the state i just move into is able to smoke pot can not get in trouble for
[07:38:05] <bugzbunn-> You live in the US?
[07:38:09] <day|flip> yes
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[07:38:24] <bugzbunn-> oO, I always though you were from EU
[07:38:32] <day|flip> oo really?
[07:39:39] <day|flip> it might be becuase I try linux ditro with eu and not like dot org or dot come
[07:39:52] <bugzbunn-> No, because of your English :)
[07:39:55] <day|flip> like vodilinux.eu
[07:40:02] <bugzbunn-> Or at least some place that is != USA
[07:40:26] <day|flip> ya like i said hearing lost and english don't go hand to hand
[07:40:36] <day|flip> it was hard for me to get my hsd
[07:40:53] <bugzbunn-> Sure, np with me here :)
[07:41:09] <day|flip> are you in the eu or usa?
[07:41:16] <bugzbunn-> PA, USA
[07:41:17] <day|flip> or some place else
[07:41:21] <day|flip> ahhh CO
[07:41:33] <day|flip> was living in IL
[07:41:46] <day|flip> before that good old hot TX
[07:42:01] <bugzbunn-> LOL
[07:42:27] <bugzbunn-> Someone once offered me a Job in Austin TX, I declined, since TX wants to succeed from the Union
[07:42:49] <bugzbunn-> Not at the time, but now in hindsight... :|
[07:42:49] <day|flip> I think 97' was the very hot year in north dallas area. i remember once hitting 117 in the shade
[07:43:12] <bugzbunn-> That's nothing, I am Haitian American, take a trip to Haiti
[07:43:19] <bugzbunn-> It's 117 even at night
[07:43:23] <bugzbunn-> :-p
[07:43:44] <day|flip> damn.. what were you doing over there for. church?
[07:43:50] <bugzbunn-> There is no Cold Drinks either, forget finding something cool to drink
[07:44:13] <bugzbunn-> day|flip: What? I am in PA, USA right now. I haven't been to Haiti in years
[07:44:39] <bugzbunn-> At the time, I was sent there to go live with Family
[07:44:40] <day|flip> but what were you doing in haiti for?
[07:44:48] <day|flip> ahh
[07:44:51] <day|flip> i see
[07:45:48] <bugzbunn-> First time was when my mother contracted Pneumonia and the second time was after my mother died
[07:46:39] <day|flip> sorry to hear about you love one death
[07:47:05] <day|flip> my dad past away 6 year ago now
[07:47:42] <bugzbunn-> The first time was rough, no school, stuck in the house 24/7. The second time, albeit the weather, neighborhood kids weren't short in supply. So it was pretty fun, except for the beatins that I got for being a bad kid ROFL
[07:47:55] <bugzbunn-> day|flip: Condolences
[07:48:32] <bugzbunn-> My mother's death didn't effect me as much as it did effect my sister.
[07:49:27] <r00tobo> guys, what happened to the forum ?
[07:49:35] <day|flip> witch one?
[07:49:40] <day|flip> old or new?
[07:50:25] <r00tobo> the new one
[07:50:36] <day|flip> discores/ markdown
[07:50:55] <r00tobo> what does that mean? o.O
[07:51:05] <r00tobo> the forum isn't back or what?
[07:51:17] <bugzbunn-> it's forum.manjaro.org
[07:51:22] <bugzbunn-> Works fine here
[07:51:23] <day|flip> this happen when manjaro team were not able to get the ssl to update since it was done by one person
[07:51:48] <day|flip> witch he work in the middle east. so he very very very hard to get a hold of
[07:51:51] <r00tobo> then my DNS settings is not right from my side!
[07:52:04] <day|flip> manjaro team needed a plan B
[07:52:21] <r00tobo> I can't reach the forum
[07:52:24] <bugzbunn-> forum.manjaro.org has address 139.59.140.38
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[07:52:53] <r00tobo> yes, it's pinging fine :|
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[07:53:18] <r00tobo> but when I try to browse it...0 response
[07:53:22] <day|flip> btw you can still used the old forum if you don't like this one
[07:53:33] <day|flip> https://old.forum.manjaro.org/
[07:53:34] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/6OpQBr] (link was unresponsive: https://old.forum.manjaro.org/)
[07:53:35] <r00tobo> I like the new one..
[07:53:49] <r00tobo> even the old one is not working...What the...!!!
[07:53:55] <r00tobo> server not found
[07:53:59] <day|flip> ahh they removd it
[07:54:02] <day|flip> wth
[07:54:07] <bugzbunn-> Host old.forum.manjaro.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[07:54:10] <day|flip> handy going be piss about this
[07:54:11] <bugzbunn-> :-p
[07:54:11] <r00tobo> the new one is not working at all...
[07:54:23] <bugzbunn-> r00tobo: What is happening exactly?
[07:54:45] <r00tobo> just hanging there...loading and loading...
[07:54:51] <bugzbunn-> IE, what error? Using Firefox? Try Firefox developer network tool to see what is happening in the background
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[07:55:10] <r00tobo> wait let me check something
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[07:55:30] <day|flip> https://www.spiralinear.space/index.php <--- handy made this since he like the old style of way of doing thing
[07:55:33] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/ZsTSnY] Manjaro Forum
[07:55:42] <r00tobo> what the hell!!!!!! :| with the socks proxy it worked
[07:55:44] <bugzbunn-> btw, r00tobo, try clearing cache
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[07:55:51] <bugzbunn-> k
[07:56:17] <r00tobo> with my normal connection it's not working...let me try different browser
[07:56:34] <bugzbunn-> day|flip: How owns that site?
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[07:56:43] <bugzbunn-> s/How/Who/
[07:56:49] <day|flip> handy
[07:57:15] <day|flip> he a long time forum user from the old manjaro forum to stop using the new one. and made his own
[07:57:37] <bugzbunn-> What his problem with the new forum?
[07:58:05] <day|flip> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/the-mobile-phone-brigaid-has-destroyed-the-manjaro-forum-interface/5893
[07:58:06] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/dQ2fCF] The mobile phone brigaid has destroyed the Manjaro forum interface! - Site Feedback - Manjaro
[07:58:11] <r00tobo> I just tried pale moon same result...
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[07:59:16] <day|flip> here the old forum
[07:59:17] <zero-ghost> why do ars technica and manjaro forum people insist on putting a shitty interface where there was a perfectly simple and functional one before...
[07:59:20] <day|flip> https://classicforum.manjaro.org/
[07:59:20] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/ZC8elk] Manjaro Linux Forum - Index
[07:59:25] <zero-ghost> like seriously what the fuck... just stop
[07:59:52] <zero-ghost> why change for the sake of change, just take a fucking holiday or something and stop ruining shit for no reason
[07:59:52] <day|flip> you could as philm
[07:59:55] <zero-ghost> NO MORE CHANGES FOR 10 YEARS
[08:00:31] <r00tobo> what the...now it's working with my normal connection :|
[08:01:21] <zero-ghost> Dev of software: "Hey cool people really like the thing we made....I KNOW!!!! LETS CHANGE EVERYTHING ABOUT IT IT'LL BE GREAT!!!j!roi@hu@&*#^t"
[08:01:26] <day|flip> tbh. the only thing I like about the new forum is... no more stupid as post count. I find it pointless as it coud be
[08:01:32] <zero-ghost> fucking so dumb -_-
[08:06:44] <day|flip> but all I want. Is the damn web page to stop bing like ooo 480p to 720p size screen. hell 1080p monitor is to damn big for most the web page on the internet
[08:08:19] <bugzbunn-> Shitty interface?
[08:08:50] <bugzbunn-> I don't chat on the forums but either folks are on a witch hunt or nitpicking over very silly things
[08:09:19] <day|flip> lol
[08:09:59] <day|flip> idk. i just think it stupid that having huge screen size is a big thing on the internet
[08:10:25] <day|flip> but anyway. I'm just about to pass out
[08:10:32] <day|flip> im heading to bed
[08:10:38] <day|flip> good night all
[08:10:56] <bugzbunn-> ltr
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[09:02:42] <Manj-1604-Lxqt> hi can someone here please tell me what packages I need for Xarchibver for full 7zip and .rar compatability?
[09:10:17] <VoidFox> Manj-1604-Lxqt: "pacman -Si xarchiver" and make sure u have the dependencies
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[09:15:26] <Manj-1604-Lxqt> ok
[09:17:02] <Manj-1604-Lxqt> just gave me a dump of info about xarchiver
[09:17:09] <Manj-1604-Lxqt> no installation
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[09:19:20] <manjaro-kde5> hello
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[09:19:44] <Goat> I was wondering if anyone could give me some quick tech help
[09:19:55] <Goat> I installed this OS and it runs odly slow
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[09:20:23] <Guest93331> I have Windows7 on another harddrive and that one runs fine
[09:21:05] <Guest93331> Id like to try and stay with this Manjaro. Its beautiful
[09:21:19] <Guest93331> For example
[09:21:33] <Guest93331> Firefox take oddly long to start after clicking on it
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[09:52:27] <superbia1> but when it starts its fast
[09:52:36] <superbia1> and it takes less ram then on windows
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[10:09:36] <zero-ghost> Guest93331: you can also try "palemoon" its a fork of firefox
[10:09:40] <zero-ghost> much faster
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[10:22:31] <bugzbunn-> Why is Dropbox 145Mb large?
[10:26:25] <Strit_Laptop> bugzbunn-, because it's proprietary.
[10:26:36] <mike-zal> I don't know why dropbox uses over 100 MB of RAM, while Mega only 8-9MB...
[10:26:54] <mike-zal> lol, that explains a lot
[10:27:02] <bugzbunn-> No, not ram usage, the package is 145MB large
[10:27:18] <bugzbunn-> Just to sync files, that's a bit ridiculous
[10:27:18] <mike-zal> I know. I just pointed that it's ALSO ram usage
[10:27:34] <mike-zal> me thinks so too ;)
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[10:28:29] <bugzbunn-> I don't know if I can trust mega...
[10:28:33] * bugzbunn- might look into it
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[10:31:27] <mike-zal> bugzbunn-, also have the same doubts, that is why I'm currently testng it
[10:31:45] <Strit_Laptop> I'm not sure I can trust dropbox. :P
[10:31:45] <mike-zal> so far I gathered: dropbox is more reliable but mega is more secure
[10:32:09] <ringo32> i like Gdrive in my thunar :)
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[10:32:43] <mike-zal> Strit_Laptop, depends on what you trust upon. on having files on dropbox servers and their security or on having no issues with files (nothing goes missing or corrupt)
[10:32:54] <bugzbunn-> Well, it's more about, I don't wake up one day and all my files are gone
[10:33:09] <mike-zal> yeah, dropbox seems to be more relable in that
[10:33:12] <bugzbunn-> That kind of trust :) Important files, I encrypt myself locally
[10:34:04] <bugzbunn-> Google gave me 100GB free with my purchase of my LG Android phone
[10:34:10] <mike-zal> however mega inmplemented bin and some versions override so you can retrieve files but not always. not enough security if two people access a file at the same time.
[10:34:10] <bugzbunn-> xD
[10:34:20] <bugzbunn-> ic
[10:34:25] <mike-zal> I have currently 56GB in dropbox for free
[10:34:33] <bugzbunn-> nice
[10:34:35] <ringo32> then you need bugzbunn- Gnome-accounts to install
[10:34:46] <mike-zal> but my issue is: dropbox sub-folders can't be shared directly
[10:34:47] <bugzbunn-> Gnome Accounts?
[10:34:49] <ringo32> gvfs-google lol
[10:34:55] <bugzbunn-> oO
[10:35:08] <bugzbunn-> Well, that account want to keep seperate for other things
[10:35:16] <bugzbunn-> Like to backup games, etc etc
[10:35:25] <ringo32> to make filemanager contact google
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[10:35:26] <mike-zal> I'm looking find workaround for this issue with drobox
[10:35:33] <bugzbunn-> mike-zal: k
[10:35:34] <Strit_Laptop> dropbox doesnt sync symlinks either.
[10:35:38] <mike-zal> if I could sync the same folder in dropbox and mega...
[10:35:55] * ringo32 gives you sourceforge
[10:35:57] <ringo32> hahahahaha
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[10:37:51] <ringo32> sudo alsactl restore
[10:37:53] <ringo32> oooops
[10:38:06] <mike-zal> ;)
[10:38:14] <bugzbunn-> I use Blackblaze for my servers
[10:38:32] <ringo32> restore didnt work this time :p
[10:38:36] <ringo32> alsamxier ftw
[10:38:52] <bugzbunn-> Their prices, can't be beaten... I mean, 15TB for $2.50 cents
[10:39:02] <mike-zal> ok, now time for heresy: been testing my ubuntu install on other partition, upgraded it to 16.04 from 15.10 and it's wow so fast
[10:39:13] <bugzbunn-> xD
[10:39:26] <bugzbunn-> ringo32: You need to upgrade to Pulseaudio man
[10:39:28] <mike-zal> no issues, unity never worked so well, also bash is better
[10:39:33] <bugzbunn-> Stop living in the past
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[10:39:59] <mike-zal> unity seems to be more responsive and quicker then plasma now... which is a shock
[10:40:11] <ringo32> bugzbunn-, alsa is always basics :p
[10:40:34] <bugzbunn-> mike-zal: I might test it
[10:41:55] <mike-zal> still, no kernel management and driver detection like on manjaro. had to install bumblebee and set nvidia conf manually in order to make it work...
[10:43:28] <mike-zal> and the mystery about why all ubuntu systems were overheating, eating battery up and making fan working like crazy is resolved. after installing bumblebee it all was fixed, TLP might also helped but fan went silent after bumblebee, not tlp.
[10:46:17] <mike-zal> here is my summer unity desktop ;) https://www.dropbox.com/s/tzqeh049g80vwqx/Zrzut%20ekranu%20z%202016-07-23%2022-55-37.png?dl=0
[10:46:19] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/Hy3lEJ] Dropbox - Zrzut ekranu z 2016-07-23 22-55-37.png
[10:47:27] <mike-zal> sceenshot was made on 15.10 but now looks the same
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[10:48:42] <ringo32> lol
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[10:49:02] <ringo32> 2214 ram use wtf
[10:49:53] <mike-zal> ringo32, had some sites open... ;)
[10:49:56] <mike-zal> with flash
[10:50:13] <mike-zal> anyway, system was fast
[10:51:00] <ringo32> if i go ubuntu i goes xubuntu :)
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[10:51:41] <mike-zal> well, I hated unity but with time I learned to love it.
[10:52:08] <mike-zal> you can easily add more effects to compiz - wobbly windows is a must for me ;)
[10:52:12] <ringo32> unity is stil a half baken desktop
[10:52:17] <mike-zal> now you can move dock
[10:52:42] <ringo32> build on Gnome
[10:52:54] <mike-zal> and bash is ok now. it's bad idea for a newbie but when you know programs it works well. no web search and it works quick
[10:53:00] <ringo32> dock you can moved before , but they stopped that before
[10:53:15] <ringo32> now they added back
[10:53:25] <mike-zal> also love title bar integration with panel. always missed that in plasma. menu in panel is also a thing I enjoy
[10:53:29] <mike-zal> saves screen space
[10:54:17] <mike-zal> also you can make it look modern and great
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[10:54:47] <mike-zal> kde connect works, kde programs integrate better then with gnome dock
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[10:55:39] <mike-zal> basically modern, good looking desktop and fast one, what woudl you want more?
[10:55:39] <ringo32> with gnome you can save screen space :)
[10:56:00] <mike-zal> ringo32, yeah with pixel saver. I use it. but no menu in panel.
[10:56:49] <mike-zal> in unity it just works great as it supossed to. panel has a point. otherwise having dock and empty panel is not logicall
[10:57:28] <mike-zal> and I like docks so such behaviour makes sense for me. that's the biggest flaw of plasma - it doesn't work that way
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[10:59:22] <ringo32> personal No Fan of unity but, if you wanna be a desktop based distro you need to make a choice also :)
[10:59:26] <mike-zal> if canonical added utlity like manjaro settings with mhwd and kernel management plus nice updater from mint, software butique from mate and rolling release plus aur it would be a perfect distro ;)
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[11:00:24] <mike-zal> still, manjaro is nr1 for me :D
[11:00:42] <ringo32> newest kernels is not always better :)
[11:00:53] <mike-zal> 4.4 is good. never had any issues with it
[11:01:33] <mike-zal> on manjaro only once kernel update went wrong and had to use older one to boot and complete update. but then I could go back to 4.4
[11:01:54] <ringo32> on a desktop os is mostly not needed a switch kernel, only experienced users should know how
[11:02:00] <mike-zal> so having 2 kernels is a good idea
[11:02:16] <ringo32> have linux-ck and linux-lts
[11:03:01] <mike-zal> true. ubuntu is pointed toward newbies and less technical users so not having tools to mess your system (like kernel and aur) makes sense
[11:03:34] <mike-zal> however something like mhwd is missing. without it ubuntu uses incorrectly interl drivers and it doesn't work well.
[11:04:46] * bugzbunn- linux-zen and now my computer feels like a Maserati
[11:05:13] <ringo32> just wanted to use bfq and bfs
[11:05:33] <mike-zal> also, with rolling release you can have system for years so there have to be a way to easy install newer kernels. in ubuntu family you just install newer system version which includes newer serwer. I get why it is that way but I like manjaro solutions.
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[11:05:53] <mike-zal> and yeah, patched kernel
[11:06:12] <ringo32> i dont need 20 kernels in repo is bit over done
[11:06:14] <mike-zal> but... 16.04 feels so fast like manjaro with I/O scheduler... just wow
[11:06:28] <ringo32> linux-lts linux linux-next would be better
[11:06:35] <ringo32> linux-legacy
[11:06:50] <mike-zal> not in the topic, you lost me
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[11:08:48] <ringo32> you have linux318 linux40 linux41 linux44 linux46 linux47
[11:08:55] <ringo32> etc etc understand?
[11:09:09] <ringo32> arch update linux mostly to latest
[11:09:36] <ringo32> linux-next would be nice to test kernels
[11:09:43] <mike-zal> anyway, my point is, ubuntu is despite bad rep quite well working system and a good choice for some.
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[11:10:18] <mike-zal> ringo32, it's good to have choice. some old computers work better on older kernels
[11:10:43] <mike-zal> mine is working well on 4.1 and 4.4
[11:11:19] <ringo32> linux-lts :p
[11:13:28] <mike-zal> yeap. no reason not to use lts. the only perks I can see from using different kernel is when you patch it yourself or make thinner and suited only for your machine.
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[11:22:18] * ringo32 as long u use linux its cool :)
[11:24:50] <mike-zal> at work it's hard thou. no fiskal printer, no specialized software (that won't work on wine), priner on linux is not working optimal (doesn't respect gray scale and cuts edges of the picture)
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[11:29:36] <mike-zal> know, because sometimes I must use linux there when windows crashes... that's so far only hardware failures, not sustem ones.
[11:30:13] <ringo32> problem people always want the latest :)
[11:30:14] <bugzbunn-> Tries Palemoon for a bit
[11:30:36] * ringo32 installs linux-zen
[11:30:43] <bugzbunn-> Appears fast, although, I wonder if it has the same performance issues when a dozen or so tabs are open
[11:31:14] <bugzbunn-> ringo32: Uh oh xD, you need a formula 1 license
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[11:31:40] <ringo32> i have to deside today watch F1 or Formula V8
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[11:31:44] <ringo32> :(
[11:31:49] <mike-zal> ringo32, yeah. I can deal with software issues, but when hardware fails, I must take my computer to specialists that can test it. I don't have equipment for this.
[11:32:21] <ringo32> ubuntu as bad people find , is more a desktop os, but is cyclus rolling seems to be fine
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[11:33:04] <ringo32> ubuntu is also more secure if you lok state of manjaro now
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[11:34:31] <mike-zal> heh? what do you mean?
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[11:34:50] <ringo32> what is latest update of manjaro?
[11:35:13] <ringo32> last update ...
[11:35:23] <ringo32> 26june ?
[11:35:50] <ringo32> doesnt tell about insecure but... Month update is quite lon
[11:35:54] <ringo32> long*
[11:35:57] <mike-zal> yeah, I noticed that there were no updates since few weeks. that's unusual
[11:36:14] <mike-zal> I didn't have to do backups... that's a nice change ;)
[11:36:27] <ringo32> such as firefox , security passt faster
[11:36:33] <ringo32> on ubuntu
[11:36:45] <mike-zal> I am used to do backup every time before updating manjaro although I never had bigger issues with updates
[11:37:07] <mike-zal> but I guess the guys from manjaro have to have some free summer time
[11:37:16] <ringo32> they have updated testing to quick , if it update just what needed people would be happy,
[11:37:26] <ringo32> is not the free summer time
[11:37:42] <ringo32> they updated the whole qt 5.7 and gtk seems to have issues
[11:37:52] <ringo32> those issues block update
[11:38:01] <mike-zal> so maybe it's good that it's on hold
[11:38:14] <ringo32> they could hold it on in unstable lol
[11:38:17] <mike-zal> I prefer to wait then have it quick as on arch
[11:38:26] <mike-zal> true
[11:38:28] <ringo32> testing is a buffer
[11:38:49] <ringo32> if they update firefox what ever not relies on that qt stuf people would be happy
[11:38:59] <ringo32> even nongui update blocks so..
[11:39:01] <mike-zal> is it not in testing yet? I thought it is
[11:39:11] <ringo32> it is in testing but not in stable
[11:39:37] <mike-zal> I know. rarely there are issues but when there are, it's worth wait till they fix it all.
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[11:40:06] <mike-zal> having stable and pleasant update experience is essential
[11:40:38] <ringo32> better was to test it in unstable
[11:41:10] <ringo32> you dont need to update whole stack of QT if not needed
[11:41:13] <ringo32> or GTK
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[11:41:51] * bugzbunn- setups up his own firefox sync server
[11:41:55] <ringo32> have to go.. hope you unstand what im thinking :) was better just to update what could be update on testing so they pass it on stable
[11:42:04] <bugzbunn-> ltr
[11:42:24] <ringo32> but now you block update so it is bit foolish
[11:42:37] <ringo32> have to go
[11:42:40] <mike-zal> true. but I don't know what is their workflow so it's hard to tell. from our perspective it would be better to release what works and hold up on what is not. but maybe that's not the best idea for them.
[11:42:51] <ringo32> they make there self bit to hard
[11:43:10] <ringo32> have to shop :-)
[11:43:16] <mike-zal> ok, bye
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[12:01:40] * ringo32 back
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[12:04:10] <mike-zal> that was quick
[12:06:32] <ringo32> i live on a store :p
[12:07:03] <bugzbunn-> Palemoon is fast
[12:07:13] * bugzbunn- sets nice -n -15 palemoon
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[12:10:35] <mike-zal> palemoon sucks
[12:10:46] <bugzbunn-> Why?
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[12:12:32] <Wildfyr> palemoon is okay IMO
[12:13:14] <bugzbunn-> So far, I hate the fact, when I open a new tab, it opens to the far right as oppose to FFx which opens it next to the tab you are in
[12:13:23] <bugzbunn-> Performance wise, it's fast
[12:13:53] <bugzbunn-> With FFx, I have to nice it -15, have the profile in tmpfs, to improve performance
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[12:18:01] <ringo32> i dont need palemoon :p
[12:18:12] <ringo32> i get so pale of that :p
[12:18:18] <bugzbunn-> :p
[12:18:36] <Wildfyr> ;P
[12:18:41] <ringo32> gona change my main search machine
[12:20:32] <ringo32> https://searx.me/about
[12:20:33] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/sUDS5r] about - searx
[12:21:15] <funilrys> personally i changes for QupZilla and I fund it a lil bit faster than ffx ... (it's y opinion)
[12:21:39] <ringo32> funilrys, i have no QT installed so i dont need it :p
[12:23:27] <funilrys> haha nobody need it ;)
[12:24:08] * ringo32 lets talk about duckduckgo versus Searx.me
[12:24:34] <bugzbunn-> Well, I need my power tools, aka Firefox extensions
[12:25:07] <bugzbunn-> btw, Duckduckgo search results are crap :-p
[12:25:12] <Wildfyr> ringo32: Searx.me?
[12:25:38] <Wildfyr> bugzbunn-: not really crap, but google is better
[12:25:46] <Wildfyr> s/better/the best/
[12:26:14] <ringo32> duckduckgo is opensource searx.me also but is cleaner :p
[12:27:00] <bugzbunn-> Nope, I can never find what I am looking for on Duckduck most of the time, even when searching for open source results. Only time Duckduckgo is useful is when Google tries to hide information from me
[12:27:45] <Wildfyr> bugzbunn-: most of the time i can find what i want, but it takes more effort
[12:28:21] <bugzbunn-> See xD
[12:28:56] <bugzbunn-> I seach for EXT4, it gives me the definition of external xD
[12:28:58] <bugzbunn-> :-p
[12:29:16] <ringo32> searx.me looks nice
[12:29:17] <bugzbunn-> ringo32: I'll setup my own searx :-p
[12:29:28] <Wildfyr> ringo32: agreed there
[12:29:38] <Wildfyr> html is boring as hell
[12:29:44] <bugzbunn-> :)
[12:30:03] <ringo32> searx.me for Wildfyr http://i.imgur.com/tXwHGxi.png
[12:30:04] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/RWGNcH] (not a web page, content type: image/png)
[12:30:05] <ringo32> :p
[12:30:16] <funilrys> what about qwant ? ;p
[12:30:32] <ringo32> VIM type :p
[12:30:46] <ringo32> who likes vim ? :)
[12:30:52] <Wildfyr> ringo32: me
[12:30:56] <ringo32> :)
[12:30:59] <funilrys> me too :)
[12:31:05] <Wildfyr> i already do that with vimperator
[12:31:39] <bugzbunn-> funilrys: interesting
[12:31:53] <bugzbunn-> So many privacy search engines out there
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[12:34:19] * ringo32 needs 1 search engine to search in al those machiines :p
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[12:40:18] <funilrys> haha it'll be great
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[12:53:37] <manjaroCinnamon1> hello
[12:53:47] <ringo32> hej manjaroCinnamon1
[12:54:20] <manjaroCinnamon1> come from?
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[12:55:53] <manjaroCinnamon1> blabla
[12:56:13] <ringo32> Belgium !!!
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[12:56:51] <manjaroCinnamon1> I am from Brasil
[12:56:59] <ringo32> nice
[12:58:18] <manjaroCinnamon1> are you using linux Manjaro too?
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[12:58:29] <ringo32> not me :p
[12:59:18] <manjaroCinnamon1> what so you are using?
[12:59:38] <ringo32> antergos
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[13:00:08] <manjaroCinnamon1> what?
[13:00:29] <ringo32> ANTERGOS LINUX did you hear it? :)
[13:01:20] <manjaroCinnamon1> never, is a new distro or is a Begium distro?
[13:01:40] <manjaroCinnamon1> Belgium, sorry
[13:02:04] <Wildfyr> manjaroCinnamon1: not a new distro and don't know about it being Belgium
[13:02:10] <mike-zal> lol. antergos is arch with easy install and configuration packs
[13:03:16] <mike-zal> but lacks of some manjaro features as: mhwd, patched kernel and some more.
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[13:07:37] <BryzNSTY> Is anyone else using private internet access as a VPN? I cant get it to work
[13:08:16] <BryzNSTY> I followed https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/18041/openvpn-step-by-step-setup-for-manjaro-linux-with-video
[13:08:18] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/qo9pFy] OpenVPN Step-by-Step Setup for Manjaro Linux (with video) - PIA
[13:08:19] <ringo32> just step closer more not
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[13:13:09] <josh7> hi how can i see all wifi settings
[13:13:16] <josh7> so i can put my wifi on
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[13:17:54] <mysticTot> Is it possible to prevent fork bomb by using kernel configuration option CONFIG_CGROUP_PIDS=y i.e, PIDs controller??
[13:19:02] <mparillo> josh7: Which Flavour? On KDE, you can just left click on the wireless icon in your System Tray.
[13:19:31] <josh7> i have xfce
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[13:21:08] <Vlado9A> hell o world
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[13:27:23] <mparillo> Sorry josh7 I do not know, but I am under the impression that the network manager is really only a GUI that talks to CLI. So, unless an xfce user can point you to something easy, you can read here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_configuration
[13:27:23] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/vVBv6d] Wireless network configuration - ArchWiki
[13:28:27] <funilrys> with wifi-menu in terminal it's possible ;)
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[13:36:10] <bugzbunn-> BryzNSTY: What part are you messing up at?
[13:36:24] * bugzbunn- uses PIA with openvpn CLi client
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[14:15:17] <BenSolo> Does Manjaro have an installer? Or is it more manual like Arch?
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[14:17:08] <Strit_Laptop> BenSolo, it has 3 installers. CLI, Thus and Calamares. You can choose whichever you want.
[14:18:21] <BenSolo> Sweet
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[14:18:41] <BenSolo> I dont mind the Arch style installation I just want something to handle the bootloader
[14:18:49] <marrek> hey fellows. the last days im havin lot of trouble gettin manjaro running on my new i7 6700HQ
[14:18:55] <BenSolo> Manjaro still uses pacman and systemD right?
[14:18:56] <marrek> cant boot the livestick at all
[14:19:01] <Strit_Laptop> BenSolo, yes
[14:19:21] <BenSolo> Awesome I am excited. I have never heard of this befor4e
[14:19:44] <marrek> if someone got some experience in that a private message would be nice
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[14:24:33] <marrek> anyone skylake experience in manjaro?
[14:25:42] <marrek> the original arch iso with 4.6 kernel runs fine, is there a manjaro iso with 4.6kernel?
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[14:31:07] <BenSolo|Cell> You guys should get some torrents.
[14:31:57] <BenSolo|Cell> I have to wait 30 mins to download an iso like it's 2002 or something
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[14:34:02] <marrek> pls help
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[14:37:02] <_thelion_> Hi, where can i found help and instructions to install Manjaro in dual boot system with windows 10, please?
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[14:38:05] <marrek> just install manjaro beside win10, mount /boot/efi during install. after install .. arch-chroot to you new setup.. pacman -S refind-efi and then refind-install
[14:38:13] <BenSolo|Cell> _thelion_: just like any other Distro..
[14:38:17] <marrek> now you have efibootloader with win10 and manjaro
[14:39:04] <marrek> how to run manjaro on skylake laptop??
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[14:39:41] <BenSolo|Cell> Use the partition manager to create an ext4 or whatever file system type ya want set up at least your root partition and install. Then it will install grub and usually setup windows in the list automagically.
[14:40:09] <marrek> grubs no power here
[14:40:37] <BenSolo|Cell> What makes you think skylake is any different? That's just a generation of processor.
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[14:40:54] <BenSolo|Cell> Grubs no power here.. That makes no sense my friend.
[14:41:39] <_thelion_> BenSolo|Cell: Thanks. I was asking cause i read that dual boot isn't working on windows 10. So that's great
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[14:44:32] <funilrys> if you disable legacymode/securemode you can install per bios I think
[14:44:47] <funilrys> uefi sucks ...
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[14:49:20] <mike-zal2> BenSolo|Cell, there are torrents for manjaro... and yes, they are much faster then usual iso download via sourceforge
[14:51:20] <mike-zal2> _thelion_, if you want to dual boot, do UEFI install. first you need to prepare live USB in UEFI mode (via dd in linux or via rufus (mark uefi mode)
[14:51:23] <marrek> cant boot @beensolo
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[14:51:52] <marrek> arch 4.6 is booting fine.. manjaro doesnt boot :( need help
[14:52:10] <mike-zal2> _thelion_, also you need to deactivate fastboot and some other bios protections (don't remeber its name)
[14:52:36] <marrek> i tried that too :D
[14:52:59] <marrek> tried everything the last 3 days but wasnt able.. i was able only to run the deepin version of manjaro with nomodeset parameter, but after install i cant boot again, also with the parameters set :(
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[14:53:49] <mike-zal2> _thelion_, and if you did that, you can install manjaro from live version. in such case you should have in BIOS two boot possibilities, windows and manjaro. windows will run automatically but have no manjaro choice. if you choose manjaro, it will open grub. if you have no windows on grub's list you must sudo grub-update after booting to manjaro
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[14:54:43] <mike-zal2> marrek, give us some more info. what partitions do you have, is there windows, is it legacy or uefi install
[14:54:53] <mike-zal2> how do you prepare live usb?
[14:55:16] <marrek> using dd
[14:55:30] <mike-zal2> ok, then live usb should be correct
[14:55:32] <marrek> no partitioning atm, just trying to boot the live
[14:55:49] <marrek> yes i can run same stick on my old laptop 3rd gen skylake
[14:56:02] <_thelion_> Thank you guys, you helped a lot! :)
[14:56:08] <marrek> also uefi no problem
[14:56:38] <mike-zal2> marrek, ah, then there must be skylake issue I heard so much about. in theory newest manajro isos should have no problem with it since they use kernel 4.4
[14:56:40] <marrek> i guess there are some kernel probs, cause the archiso with 4.6kernel boots fine
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[14:56:53] <mike-zal2> but there are some skylake processors that won't digest it either
[14:57:10] <mike-zal2> marrek, do you see grub from manjaro live?
[14:57:16] <marrek> yeah, there is so much to read .. and i just want to talk to someone who may have same cpu or similar sys
[14:57:56] <mike-zal2> marrek, there was some simple fix during grub that allows skylake systems to run manjaro, so you could add higher kernel
[14:57:58] <marrek> also about the hybrid graphics crap.. but thats a step after succesul installing
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[14:58:22] <marrek> do you now how to run kernel4.6 in liveusb?
[14:58:26] <mike-zal2> marrek, manjaro works with hybrid gpu out of the box, unlike many other distros. I have it so I know
[14:58:54] <mike-zal2> marrek, there is no way to run other kernel then 4.4 in live, because there is no other kernel in iso
[14:59:06] <mike-zal2> you would have to comile your live iso yourself
[14:59:09] <mike-zal2> some do that...
[14:59:20] <marrek> hmm
[14:59:27] <mike-zal2> anyway, there is a way to run it. wait a moment
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[15:02:45] <marrek> oh damn, this is just the same error: https://m.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/4u85rr/manjaro_on_skylake_problems_not_booting/
[15:02:46] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/6tpz3N] (link was unresponsive: https://m.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/4u85rr/manjaro_on_skylake_problems_not_booting/)
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[15:03:33] <marrek> but i see messages, and know its haning in account services step too.. but i guess its haning random
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[15:04:40] <mike-zal2> marrek, you also may wait for ringo32, he should know how to fix it. I'm currently browsig some threads on old manjaro forum
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[15:05:10] <marrek> there is a: How to install manjaro with a skylake based pc - Manjaro Linux Forum
[15:05:10] <marrek> https://old.forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=32572.0 but i cant access to it
[15:05:10] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/NIA0cn] (link was unresponsive: https://old.forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=32572.0)
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[15:05:23] <marrek> but i cant access to it
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[15:05:34] <mike-zal2> for example:
[15:05:35] <mike-zal2> https://classicforum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=29726.msg254776#msg254776
[15:05:36] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/EwKaZ7] Intel Skylake CPU
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[15:06:38] <marrek> the iso is kernel 4.4 already tried i915.preliminary_hw_support=1 same result
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[15:08:13] <mike-zal2> probably you need at least 4.5 https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Build_Manjaro_ISOs_with_buildiso
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[15:08:14] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/7CNgs8] Build Manjaro ISOs with buildiso - Manjaro Linux
[15:08:43] <mike-zal2> for most skylakes 4.4 works fine, for few like you, newer versions are needed
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[15:09:48] <marrek> damn my old manjaro laptop only runs kernel 4.1
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[15:10:12] <Batch> maybe ACPI have something to do with it? you could check bios settings for ACPI
[15:11:03] <marrek> there is nothing like acpi..
[15:11:19] <marrek> i found "gpu performance scaling" it set to enabled atm
[15:11:50] <mike-zal2> marrek, can't find anything more usful now :/
[15:12:03] <mike-zal2> but I searched only for few minutes
[15:12:16] <marrek> yes me too. me searched hours :PP
[15:12:38] <BenSolo|Cell> Not for Mate or Cinnamon only options were http
[15:12:45] <mike-zal2> so you might have more luck. look for custom iso build with 4.5 or higher or some solutions to boot when 4.4 is not enough
[15:13:07] <mike-zal2> marrek, you said that one community iso worked for you?
[15:13:41] <marrek> yes, but only boot the livestick with "nomodeset", but after install this, i wastn able to boot, same issues, also every kernelparameter didnt help
[15:13:45] <marrek> so weird
[15:13:45] <mike-zal2> if so, just use it and add DE you want.
[15:13:53] <mike-zal2> ah
[15:13:59] <marrek> yea this was my idea too
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[15:18:43] <mike-zal2> marrek, wait for ringo32 then
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[15:20:40] <marrek> ok :)
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[15:21:56] <marrek> thanks for you help mike
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[15:42:22] <BenSolo> Will the live disc have something with support for NTFS resize or will I need a gparted live disc for that?
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[15:50:45] <ringo32> marrek, ?
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[15:52:35] <ringo32> ?
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[15:53:58] <superbia1> ringo32:
[15:54:36] <superbia1> ringo32:
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[15:59:19] <ringo32> superbia1:
[15:59:20] <ringo32> superbia1:
[15:59:20] <ringo32> superbia1:
[15:59:21] <ringo32> superbia1:
[15:59:21] <ringo32> superbia1:
[15:59:21] <ringo32> superbia1:
[15:59:49] <marrek> hello ringo32
[15:59:58] <superbia1> ringo32: i have found a girl
[16:00:46] <superbia1> ringo32: she is a bus driver
[16:01:19] <ringo32> lol 40years :)
[16:01:23] <marrek> gz
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[16:24:40] <manjaro-web|4009> Compiz .... Anyone interested in this topic ?
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[18:01:06] <badbodh> ringo32 ringo32 ringo32 ringo32 ringo32 ringo32 ringo32 ringo32
[18:01:30] <badbodh> i finally chainloaded grub-to-grub !!! \o/
[18:04:24] <Batch> badbodh multiple distros or whut?
[18:04:38] <badbodh> well, sorta. arch and manjaro
[18:04:59] <badbodh> i wanted to fedora, but dnf sucks hairy balls. just ugh.
[18:05:14] <Batch> awh sucks
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[18:06:17] <Batch> badbodh you did: sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub ?
[18:06:50] <badbodh> nope. no os-prober, it spoils the whole point of chainloading
[18:06:51] <Batch> i think that should find everything tho
[18:06:57] <Batch> ah
[18:07:06] <Batch> hmmm
[18:07:15] <badbodh> hold on lemme pastebin /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[18:07:39] <Batch> ok
[18:07:40] <badbodh> Your paste can be seen here: https://gist.github.com/4193e476daecd3577ead75cac48ab0d9
[18:07:42] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/4mYFRq] /etc/grub.d/40_custom · GitHub
[18:08:28] <Batch> so how is it different ?
[18:09:14] <badbodh> you get "proper" boot entries, not some auto-generated crap like "blah (found on /dev/sdaX)"
[18:09:43] <badbodh> plus you get independent grub cfg (and working plymouth splash) for both distros
[18:09:44] <Batch> awh i see
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[18:10:20] <badbodh> now i can switch back-n-forth from either grub-menu
[18:10:34] <ringo32> badbodh, lol
[18:10:39] <mtn> Batch: I have never had a problem with manjaro booting arch, but arch, or any other distro, won't boot manjaro for some reason
[18:10:50] <badbodh> manjaro has primary grub at hd0, archlinux has secondary at hd0,msdos6
[18:11:02] <mtn> badbodh: I meant that for you ;)
[18:11:19] <badbodh> mtn, my arch's grub boots into manjaro's grub just fine.
[18:11:24] <badbodh> and vice versa
[18:11:34] <badbodh> "independent" :)
[18:11:38] <Batch> lol
[18:11:41] <Batch> ?
[18:11:49] <mtn> badbodh: the way you are doing it, right? not the way os-prober does it
[18:11:50] * Batch is speechless and confused
[18:12:06] <badbodh> nope. pacman -Rs os-prober <----- step 1
[18:12:09] <marrek> pacman -S refind-efi
[18:12:13] <marrek> refind-install
[18:12:14] <marrek> ;)
[18:12:50] <badbodh> Your paste can be seen here: https://gist.github.com/3418403b7d564bfc673e1efe6b044e94
[18:12:52] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/c7Jq2N] /mnt/root2/etc/grub.d/40_custom · GitHub
[18:13:12] <badbodh> ^ equivalent grub.d/40_custom on arch's partition
[18:13:42] <mtn> badbodh: that is swell, but manjaro should work with other distros by default
[18:14:42] <badbodh> it does, as far as os-prober's generated boot entry is concerned (fedora's os-prober pisses itself)
[18:15:14] <mtn> badbodh: not for me, it doesn't
[18:15:37] <badbodh> but this trick right here, distros are irrelevant. or at least they should be
[18:15:51] <badbodh> lemme see you cfg-s
[18:16:02] <mtn> badbodh: tried many other distros, none of their grub will boot manjaro correctly
[18:16:03] <badbodh> and lsblk,parted -l
[18:16:33] <mtn> badbodh: manjaro does not report the uuid correctly and I get a kernel panic
[18:16:51] <ringo32> uuid from where?
[18:16:53] <badbodh> who gives a fuck about uuid?
[18:17:07] <mtn> badbodh: gurb does, obviously
[18:17:10] <mtn> or grub, even
[18:17:16] <ringo32> i dont have uuid in grub
[18:17:21] <badbodh> ^ look at my pastes, specifying the partition directly. no uuid crap.
[18:17:38] <mtn> ringo32: uuid reported by manjaro, when os-prober is run from another distro
[18:17:56] <badbodh> there should be a disable uuid option in /etc/default/grub
[18:18:02] <mtn> badbodh: yes, but not using os-prober. most of us don't want to set it up manually ;)
[18:18:05] <badbodh> un# it
[18:18:34] <ringo32> use just partition name whatever
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[18:18:41] <mtn> badbodh: good point about messing with disable uuid. I will give that a try one of these days
[18:18:57] <badbodh> bro, you can boot into windows and mac using this method. obviously you are missing a step somewhere :)
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[18:19:03] <Batch> uuid is good to have in fstabd when using wol i found out
[18:19:14] <Batch> fstab*
[18:19:21] <ringo32> http://ix.io/1703
[18:19:22] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/iaJYxM] (not a web page, content type: text/plain)
[18:19:32] <badbodh> fstab? who gives a fuck about fstab. that comes much later. we are at grub now, only boot sectors and mbrs
[18:20:19] <Batch> hehehe
[18:20:19] <badbodh> #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true :)
[18:20:52] <Batch> uncomment it if you need it
[18:20:57] <Batch> :)
[18:21:10] <badbodh> not advisable if you swap your hdd/ssd often
[18:21:32] <badbodh> in that case somebody needs to report the "proper" uuid-s :/
[18:21:55] <mtn> badbodh: just one of the many manjaro oddities ;)
[18:22:42] <badbodh> funny, my uuid-s do just fine. i dual boot with random distros all the time :P
[18:22:53] <badbodh> even share the same swap
[18:23:08] <Batch> lol
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[18:57:58] <aris_t> hi room i m waiting for the stable kde update. Meanwhile i have an outof date QT5-quick1 should i update it. i think viber uses it
[18:58:03] <Philo> I've just installed manjaro-kde, and I'm thinking about putting lxqt on it. Will these play well together, or cause problems?
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[18:58:59] <ringo32> is fine
[18:59:18] <ringo32> aris_t, qt5.7 have some issues and on sort nvidia also
[18:59:23] <ringo32> so holding back for bit
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[19:00:27] <Strit_Laptop> qt5-quick1 is an aur package. I'd wait updating it, if possible.
[19:01:26] <aris_t> i dont know much so plz help when all updates come how i am sure i wont update it. i am willing also to uninstall it
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[19:03:41] <ringo32> viber is also kinda more spam then whatsapp
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[19:09:29] <superbia1> did anyone say Bieber?
[19:13:35] <aris_t> thanx i think i can manage it. Something else why i dont have the updates(not a big deal i m ok just curious) even fro other servers that are far away from me even if thats slower????
[19:13:58] <Strit_Laptop> aris_t, what updates?
[19:14:28] <aris_t> the stable version i think came out today
[19:14:53] <Strit_Laptop> aris_t, nope. No stable update since 25th of June.
[19:15:10] <Strit_Laptop> https://forum.manjaro.org/c/announcements
[19:15:11] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/7bBMzV] Latest Announcements topics - Manjaro
[19:15:27] <aris_t> ok thank you very much friend my mistake
[19:15:33] <Strit_Laptop> np
[19:21:20] <superbia1> Strit_Laptop: pm?
[19:21:44] <Strit_Laptop> pm?
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[19:22:29] * ringo32 is reinstalling his Pi
[19:22:46] <ringo32> some cool alternative ideas?
[19:22:58] <Strit_Laptop> manjaro-arm?
[19:23:04] <ringo32> no..
[19:23:17] <ringo32> is already installed is now updating :p
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[19:23:37] <ringo32> i think to make a znc ... but dont know which more
[19:23:38] <ringo32> :p
[19:24:15] <Strit_Laptop> the rpi is too weak to do much.
[19:24:27] <ringo32> znc is possible
[19:26:20] <[[[archtard]]]> a media player or a squid
[19:26:34] <ringo32> squid ?
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[19:29:50] <superbia1> turn it into your hentai backup device
[19:30:14] <[[[archtard]]]> http://www.squid-cache.org/
[19:30:14] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/yNIPkP] squid : Optimising Web Delivery
[19:30:18] <[[[archtard]]]> :)
[19:30:27] <OnlyHuman> :~)
[19:30:32] <OnlyHuman> :)
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[19:43:15] * mtn feels sorry for superbia1
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[19:48:28] <manjaro-kde5_> can anyone help me fix my openGL? i want to run tf2 and it says womething its wrong with it.
[19:49:41] <superbia1> you need to do something to fix it
[19:50:13] <manjaro-kde5_> yeah, all i can find is the archlinux commands, and they dont work with manjaro
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[19:55:33] <manjaro-kde5> morning guys
[19:57:05] <manjaro-kde5> I just installed manjaro kde in my hp and updgraded it and since then I got my fan running at the highest speed since the very beginning
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[19:58:52] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: how hard are the cpus working? use system monitor and look to see
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[19:59:27] <manjaro-kde5> hello mtn
[20:00:26] <manjaro-kde5> they working very low below 4%
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[20:01:05] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: odd the fans are running full speed
[20:01:30] <johnc4510_> is it better to update kernel first or update non-free nvidia driver first
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[20:02:44] <manjaro-kde5> mtn very weird and apart from full speed, very noisy too
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[20:03:58] <manjaro-kde5> mtn http://dpaste.com/1E2YJ51
[20:04:00] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/pEyipn] dpaste: 1E2YJ51
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[20:07:47] <manjaro-kde5> mtn it very weird for my Temperature are very slow as just checked http://dpaste.com/3XTNPCV
[20:07:48] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/b3cXmv] dpaste: 3XTNPCV
[20:08:05] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: right, no idea what is going on
[20:08:47] <manjaro-kde5> what does acpitz-virtual 0 mean ?
[20:09:02] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: not sure, what does google tell you?
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[20:12:46] <manjaro-kde5> mtn I am still looking for it, but I am reading in an arch wiki some packages and files to control fan speed now
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[20:13:08] <manjaro-kde5> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fan_speed_control
[20:13:09] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/Q7L8ze] Fan speed control - ArchWiki
[20:13:54] <manjaro-kde5> Has anyone tried this fancontrol tweak ?
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[20:22:55] <manjaro-kde5> omg maybe my processors are running down but my motherboard is not
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[20:24:10] <manjaro-kde5> is there anyways to reset the configurations of sensors for my laptop ?
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[20:36:35] <manjaro-kde5> brb
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[20:36:55] <manjaro-kde5> I will try sensors detect cli
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[20:39:49] <josh7> i need help with my wifi
[20:39:50] <josh7> please
[20:40:03] <josh7> Job for netctl at wlp3s0\x2dPay2Play dot service failed because the control process exited with error code.
[20:40:03] <josh7> See "systemctl status "netctl at wlp3s0\\x2dPay2Play dot service"" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
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[20:42:05] <josh7> anyone
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[20:48:22] <josh7> does people just ignore you here
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[20:48:59] <mtn> josh7: you get an answer if anyone has one for you. otherwise, no answer.
[20:49:19] <josh7> well i asked a simple answer
[20:49:29] <VoidFox> and u already pasted the answer yourself...
[20:49:34] <mtn> josh7: oh good, then you got an answer already. great!
[20:49:39] <VoidFox> See "systemctl status "netctl at wlp3s0\\x2dPay2Play dot service"" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
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[20:52:11] <badbodh> help i am getting kernel panic !
[20:52:25] <mtn> oh noes!
[20:52:57] <badbodh> please fix this bug. manjaro sucks !
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[20:53:42] <mtn> badbodh: I know. install something else. fixed! Another satisfied customer! NEXT!
[20:54:09] <badbodh> how can i install ? i have no computer.
[20:54:32] <mtn> badbodh: use a hammer. always works for me
[20:55:09] <badbodh> instructions unclear, hammer stuck in... you get the idea
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[20:55:27] <mtn> badbodh: that is where it belongs. leave it there ;)
[20:55:40] <MrRapisst> hi my console fonts are still small somehow on manjaro than ubuntu
[20:55:42] <badbodh> touche. You wins
[20:55:56] <MrRapisst> i use arch and am stuck in tty most times,and use it intensely,and like it,but the font ruins my eyes and strains it a lot
[20:56:01] <badbodh> MrRapisst, using ubuntu's mono font in terminal ?
[20:56:20] <badbodh> gimme Xresources and vconsole.conf
[20:56:41] <MrRapisst> yes i use many http://askubuntu.com/questions/173220/how-do-i-change-the-font-or-the-font-size-in-the-tty-console#173221
[20:56:41] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/FPoN7Z] How do I change the font or the font size in the TTY (console)? - Ask Ubuntu
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[20:57:31] <MrRapisst> FONT=lat4-19
[20:57:31] <MrRapisst> FONT_MAP=8859-1
[20:57:45] <MrRapisst> vconsole.conf and .Xresources
[20:58:40] <badbodh> yikes. i'm out. happy with good old monospace :)
[20:59:24] <badbodh> i get that too btw, ubuntu mono being too darn small. maybe something to do with ubuntu's patched fontconfig (arch uses vanilla configs)
[20:59:27] <MrRapisst> that;s it. 19 size is too small. are you talking of /usr/share/kdb/consolefonts/
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[21:01:25] <badbodh> just use another font and check. try droid sans, look purrty to me
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[21:04:07] <MrRapisst> what's FONT_MAP is 8859 -1 entry right or ISO 8859-1? i know key map,but font map.come on
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[21:18:00] <deemde> "Anonymous Pro" is cewl, too.
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[21:21:54] <MrRapisst> badbodh: i did install ttf-droid, and used find in /usr/share but its not located anywhere?
[21:22:50] <MrRapisst> badbodh: the same for liberation fonts.
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[21:58:05] <linux_dream> ringo32, do you use VM's ?
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[22:00:33] <ringo32> no
[22:00:39] <linux_dream> ok
[22:00:39] <ringo32> linux_dream, why ?
[22:00:53] <ringo32> not anymore mayby virtualbox
[22:00:55] <ringo32> sometimes
[22:01:39] <linux_dream> ok just wondering
[22:01:44] <linux_dream> but you use windows too?
[22:01:54] <ringo32> to open en close them yes
[22:02:05] <ringo32> especially this wheather
[22:02:46] <MrRapisst> looks like there is a liinux dreamer out here :)
[22:02:47] <linux_dream> i mean windoze
[22:02:59] <ringo32> Doos ?
[22:03:27] <MrRapisst> ringo32: i installled liberation fonts, and also ttf-droid, and used find too,but cant find them, even in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts/
[22:03:43] <ringo32> i use noto font
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[22:06:19] <MrRapisst> sp i installed noto fonts, where are they?
[22:07:44] <ringo32> i think to install Freedos
[22:08:01] <MrRapisst> find /usr/ -iname *noto*fonts*
[22:08:01] <MrRapisst> find: '/usr/lib/rkhunter': Permission denied
[22:08:01] <MrRapisst> find: '/usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d': Permission denied
[22:08:15] <ringo32> lol
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[22:08:31] <MrRapisst> but cant find them, even in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts/
[22:08:35] <MrRapisst> what?
[22:09:07] <MrRapisst> sudo find /usr/ -iname *noto*fonts*
[22:09:08] <ringo32> actually i dont care which font i use
[22:09:18] <ringo32> noto fond is in xfce
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[22:09:41] <MrRapisst> the sam for liberation fonts,which is installed too,and cant find them
[22:09:53] <MrRapisst> i use i3
[22:10:14] <MrRapisst> i need tty console fonts. so i can sestfont location
[22:10:35] <MrRapisst> i dont like the current fonts as they are too small
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[22:13:50] <louis__1> hi all, messing with qt themes. on xfce i just can't set qt5 apps to use gtk theme. Any idea or some has same problem?
[22:14:14] <MrRapisst> setfont charR24.pcf.gz
[22:14:19] <MrRapisst> bad input file size
[22:14:32] <MrRapisst> why did u say lol ringo32, did i do anything stupid
[22:15:05] <ringo32> im also bit busy here with my own znc :)
[22:16:29] <MrRapisst> ok
[22:16:46] <MrRapisst> do u pay for your znc? or use a free one
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[22:19:16] <louis__1> even qt5ct couldn't set it to gtk
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[22:25:31] <ringo32> mmm
[22:28:38] <louis__1> ringo32, i always running into annoying things :))
[22:28:48] <louis__1> anyway its just cosmetics
[22:30:09] <ringo32> qt5.7?
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[22:30:57] <louis__1> yeah
[22:31:11] <louis__1> kdenlive needs qt5
[22:32:48] <louis__1> i even exported the qt appstyle what arch wiki mentioned but no luck
[22:33:21] <ringo32> stable ?
[22:33:30] <louis__1> testing
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[22:33:52] <ringo32> try another GTK3 theme , its manjaro theme ?
[22:34:02] <ringo32> theme it different
[22:34:03] <louis__1> no its numix
[22:34:09] <ringo32> on gtk?
[22:34:21] <louis__1> xfce
[22:34:33] <louis__1> supports gtk3-3
[22:34:40] <louis__1> gtk2-3
[22:35:00] <ringo32> 5.7 has currently glitches theming cause of those stable blocked it seems
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[22:35:33] <louis__1> ok i might just wait few weeks
[22:35:45] <ringo32> try with a total different theme ?
[22:36:20] <louis__1> its defaults to fusion qt theme wich is ok excepts some menu text disappears...
[22:36:47] <louis__1> ok i change it back to manjaro theme and see what happens
[22:37:00] <ringo32> that is no i think
[22:37:14] <ringo32> try arc-themes aur
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[22:38:45] <louis__1> gtktheme-arc wont build from aur
[22:39:11] <ringo32> pgp ?
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[22:39:42] <louis__1> pgp?
[22:41:03] <louis__1> autoreconf not found
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[22:42:04] <louis__1> is this automake autoconf?
[22:42:14] <ringo32> oh mayby is this :
[22:42:16] <ringo32> https://github.com/manjaro/release-plan/issues/73#issuecomment-231148305
[22:42:19] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/cCYYAZ] Fix the regression that QT 5.7.0 doesn't support GTK3 theming · Issue #73 · manjaro/release-plan · GitHub
[22:42:31] <ringo32> also : https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=214147&p=4
[22:42:32] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/3LtPCv] [SOLVED] Qt 5.7: Widget style GTK is not longer available (Page 4) / Applications & Desktop Environments / Arch Linux Forums
[22:42:45] <ringo32> thats the issue :p
[22:42:52] <ringo32> only to dig in
[22:43:44] <ringo32> also needing qt5ct
[22:45:49] <[[[archtard]]]> whamalamadingdong
[22:45:50] <louis__1> fatalerrors, i tied it but no luck
[22:46:26] <louis__1> i have qtct and its accepting gtk+ theme settings but kdenlive wont use it
[22:46:55] <louis__1> if i set kdenlive gtk+ theme from its menu its freezes
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[22:47:41] <ringo32> louis__1, did you do the export?
[22:47:47] <louis__1> yeah
[22:47:53] <ringo32> export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct
[22:48:19] <louis__1> so qt5ct works with gtk+ now but still not showing in kdenlive
[22:48:45] <ringo32> open kdenlive in terminal ?
[22:48:51] <louis__1> ok...
[22:49:39] <louis__1> using qt5ct plugin
[22:49:58] <ringo32> no error ?
[22:50:07] <louis__1> there is some
[22:50:25] <louis__1> invalid context for icons
[22:51:21] <ringo32> oh there is also a icon part?
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[22:51:47] <louis__1> Invalid Context= "Panel" line for icon theme: "/usr/share/icons/Numix...
[22:52:19] <[[[archtard]]]> :S
[22:52:27] <louis__1> No LADSPA plugins were found!
[22:53:13] <louis__1> because i set numix icons with qt5ct
[22:53:28] <ringo32> how ?
[22:53:46] <louis__1> open qt5ct and you can set it
[22:54:07] <louis__1> icon theme tab
[22:54:31] <dodgejcr> morning
[22:54:50] <louis__1> but its not using it
[22:55:17] <ringo32> isnt you must use the Export command?
[22:55:27] <louis__1> i did
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[22:55:49] <louis__1> anyway qt5ct wont let me choose gtk2
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[23:01:02] <ringo32> and try export QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=adwaita
[23:02:25] <louis__1> wow
[23:02:38] <ringo32> ?
[23:02:42] <louis__1> you know something ringo32 it works now :)
[23:02:51] <ringo32> arch wiki
[23:02:56] <ringo32> =p
[23:03:10] <louis__1> no icons. i guess i have to install breeze or oxygen icons
[23:03:32] <ringo32> mmmm
[23:03:48] <ringo32> you have icons and theme of numix ?
[23:04:03] <louis__1> yeah
[23:04:37] <louis__1> it uses numix theme now just few icons missing
[23:05:01] <ringo32> try for fun = export QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=numix
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[23:06:06] <louis__1> same as adwaita
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[23:09:15] * ringo32 kicks QT5.7 have no qt 5.7 in my system
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[23:16:08] <louis__1> ringo32, after restart i have icons and adwaita theme. i leave it there like this until problem solved :0
[23:16:48] <ringo32> :)
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[23:18:37] <louis__1> linux biggest problem is the many styles and themes :) it always gets messed up :)
[23:19:26] <louis__1> gtk3.20 qt5.7 :P
[23:19:40] <ringo32> i have no qt5
[23:19:42] <ringo32> :)
[23:19:52] <louis__1> ? do you use kdenlive?
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[23:20:19] <ringo32> no
[23:20:50] <louis__1> unfortunately no better video editor than kdenlive. openshot is buddy as hell
[23:20:57] <louis__1> buggy
[23:21:00] <ringo32> i know
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[23:23:02] <ringo32> lixa fix your sasl
[23:23:05] <ringo32> :-)
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[23:23:31] <louis__1> what? :)
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[23:24:22] <louis__1> long time no see edge226 :)
[23:26:59] <lixa> what's a sasl
[23:27:42] <edge226> louis__1: sup?
[23:28:10] <ringo32> lixa you have unaffiliated
[23:28:15] <ringo32> now we get your ip
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[23:28:39] <lixa> ringo32: o that's weird. I had a cloak a while ago
[23:28:47] <louis__1> edge226, do you know how to fix qt5 themes in xfce? :) i kinda giving up on it
[23:28:51] <ringo32> your sasl is not proper configured
[23:29:01] * edge226 bets that lixa is using hexchat.
[23:29:02] <ringo32> then your ip dont show
[23:29:18] <lixa> it's irssi. let's see
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[23:30:26] <edge226> Yeah then I'd say ringos diagnosis is probably right.
[23:30:28] <lixa> ringo32: oh and thanks.
[23:30:36] <edge226> louis__1: dunno I don't do much theme stuff.
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[23:33:25] <ringo32> lixa, https://freenode.net/kb/answer/irssi
[23:33:25] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/3yxMAK] Configuring SASL for Irssi - freenode
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[23:36:16] <VinnyAtaide> hello guys, I just changed my theme in mate and my icons are ugly, how can I cange my icons to default again?
[23:37:18] <ringo32> goe to mate theme and select default theme :)
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[23:37:34] <ringo32> or select vertex-maia whatever
[23:38:01] <VinnyAtaide> whats the default theme?
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[23:38:14] <VinnyAtaide> there's no vertex maya
[23:38:40] <VinnyAtaide> :(
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[23:40:00] <VinnyAtaide> ops just dc'ed
[23:41:27] <ringo32> which iso of mate?
[23:41:33] <VinnyAtaide> the latest
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[23:42:00] <ringo32> 16.08
[23:42:07] <ringo32> heh 16.06
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[23:46:54] <ben_chile-kde5> hey there
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[23:49:35] <lixa> hm well the ssl sasl whatever it is won't be fixed immediately. Although the ip being returned seems to be false.
[23:50:11] <ben_chile-kde5> lol
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