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[00:00:57] <linux_dream> what do i do
[00:01:02] <linux_dream> Align?
[00:01:15] <linux_dream> or Verify or Write?
[00:01:29] <ringo32> have you everythng setup ?
[00:01:44] <linux_dream> I have 3 partitions. EFI System, Linux Swap and Linux Filesystem
[00:01:45] <linux_dream> yes
[00:01:57] <linux_dream> I must align first?
[00:01:58] <ringo32> asand a boot partition flagged?
[00:02:15] <linux_dream> no , there is no flag yet
[00:02:22] <linux_dream> this is later in the installation process
[00:02:42] <linux_dream> NanoSector, you here?
[00:03:07] <linux_dream> ok i will try Write
[00:03:09] <ringo32> atleast on Cfdisk you flag but in the panel under you see something as on boot , cgdisk i dont know
[00:03:43] <linux_dream> what should i do??
[00:03:50] <linux_dream> there is no "next"
[00:03:58] <linux_dream> I must manually "Write" the 3 partitions?
[00:04:20] <ringo32> you have to write to go next?
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[00:04:26] <linux_dream> i dont know
[00:04:40] <linux_dream> I will try to write, then exit manually cgdisk
[00:04:49] <ringo32> yes
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[00:05:51] <linux_dream> ok thanks
[00:05:59] <linux_dream> now I must set the File System Mountpoints
[00:06:04] <linux_dream> i guess this is where I set boot flag
[00:06:33] <linux_dream> hmm wtf
[00:06:39] <linux_dream> Swap partition doesn't show up
[00:06:55] <linux_dream> only /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda3
[00:07:04] <linux_dream> but swap should be on /dev/sda2
[00:07:15] <H-H-H> ringo32 what for fun
[00:08:07] <linux_dream> ok i guess i can fix the swap later
[00:08:22] <linux_dream> sad the installer cannot set it
[00:08:52] <ringo32> Sad how its messed by Artoo
[00:09:49] <ringo32> H-H-H, must fix it ASAP!!
[00:09:58] <linux_dream> NolanSyKinsley,
[00:10:04] <linux_dream> oops
[00:10:25] <linux_dream> . /dev/sda1 should be /boot partition?
[00:10:36] <linux_dream> or /EFI ?
[00:11:39] <linux_dream> i will try....
[00:12:02] <linux_dream> installing the system nw
[00:12:03] <linux_dream> now
[00:12:04] <H-H-H> wtf i aint doing shit for anyone or anything in here lol
[00:12:55] <linux_dream> bbl
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[00:21:28] <ringo32> H-H-H, think of nothing, if i say FluxBB what came first on your mind
[00:22:00] <H-H-H> nothing
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[00:22:46] <linux_dream> horrible
[00:22:50] <linux_dream> installed everything, no error message
[00:23:02] <linux_dream> reboot, i get a black screen with a prompt. can't enter anything
[00:23:08] <linux_dream> grub doesn't even show up
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[00:23:36] <ringo32> pffff
[00:23:48] <mtn> heh
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[00:25:07] <linux_dream> time ot install the manjaro xfce version
[00:25:32] <linux_dream> have to thank the guys who insisted so hard that i install the net edition (Jeannie and others)
[00:25:33] <mtn> good idea :P
[00:26:02] <linux_dream> the thing is that it has 1012 packages and I am left with 813 after the cleaning
[00:26:03] <H-H-H> you told me to think of nothing lol
[00:26:09] <linux_dream> but it takes time to remove all the programs i dont use
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[00:27:07] <linux_dream> just 1 question
[00:27:12] <ringo32> is not more then 15min
[00:27:15] <linux_dream> how do I boot into uefi mode?
[00:27:31] <linux_dream> i know ringo32 the installation is quick, ive done it 3 times in the lsat 3 weeks
[00:27:46] <linux_dream> removing all the packages, purging locale is longer though
[00:27:48] <ringo32> uefi is enabled btw
[00:27:50] <linux_dream> takes me more than 1 hour
[00:27:57] <linux_dream> not for me ringo32
[00:28:21] <linux_dream> do i have to enable it in the BIOS ?
[00:28:23] <ringo32> ? i dont know, i gues.. for uefi should be enabled in bios?
[00:28:34] <linux_dream> i see no switch there
[00:28:35] <ringo32> i dont know
[00:28:43] <ringo32> legacy boot is on?
[00:28:51] <ringo32> asus?
[00:29:08] <H-H-H> that reminds me i need to do a re install after switching uefi off in my bios bloody useless crap lol
[00:29:08] <linux_dream> i dont know
[00:29:19] <linux_dream> i'll reset the bios
[00:29:29] <linux_dream> since it came with win 8. it should be uefi
[00:29:30] <ringo32> asus?
[00:29:55] <linux_dream> uh wtf I can't even enter the BIOS now
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[00:30:16] <linux_dream> ok i had to press super fast F2
[00:33:05] <H-H-H> anyway ringo32 hows things with you and the familly
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[00:35:30] <ringo32> H-H-H, stil lame and yeah forum is kinda .....
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[00:39:42] <ringo32> yay new updated
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[00:46:46] <linux_dream> wait i will retry the net edition
[00:47:09] <linux_dream> ringo32, sorry to bother again, for legacy boot only /root and swap are ok?
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[00:47:44] <ringo32> i think a normal gui install you was already fixed all
[00:48:21] <linux_dream> the normal GUI of manjaro xfce doesn't install UEFI mode anyway
[00:48:49] <linux_dream> so i will go with net edition, legacy
[00:48:58] <linux_dream> aparently since i repaired my cpu, uefi is gone
[00:49:12] <linux_dream> i dunno what pieces they changed
[00:49:19] <ringo32> virtualbox that experience you get bring it on real
[00:49:29] <ringo32> cfdisk removed for parted
[00:49:44] <linux_dream> oh right i forgot...
[00:49:49] <linux_dream> i will deal with cgdisk
[00:49:52] <linux_dream> damn it
[00:50:21] <linux_dream> ok i will instal manjaro xfce
[00:51:06] <linux_dream> 10 mins remaining of downloading
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[00:52:03] <bugzbunny> The as long you set aside a EFI partition and mark it as such
[00:52:17] <linux_dream> i did that, didn't work
[00:52:20] <bugzbunny> The installer should detect and install the bootloader properly
[00:52:28] <bugzbunny> Easy peasy
[00:52:33] <linux_dream> yes i had the message that no error occurred
[00:52:40] <linux_dream> rebooted and bam, nothing works
[00:52:58] <linux_dream> my cpu doesn't seem to support uefi anymore
[00:53:32] <linux_dream> i remember i tried a command with efibootmgr that tells me whether my system can support uefi and it said no
[00:53:45] <linux_dream> before i went to the repair shop the laptop was running in uefi mode
[00:53:57] <linux_dream> so i dont know what the heck they did to it
[00:54:01] <linux_dream> but my uefi is dead
[00:56:34] <ringo32> mmmm
[00:57:19] <linux_dream> 7 mins remaining ^^ i can't wait
[00:57:27] <linux_dream> im tired of the bblack screen
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[01:02:08] <ringo32> i am tyred :)
[01:02:11] <ringo32> i gona sleep
[01:02:17] <ringo32> bye bye
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[01:09:05] <linux_dream> good night
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[01:13:31] <alexandros_c> good night hli
[01:13:37] <alexandros_c> good night linux_dream
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[01:22:38] <linux_dream> can i resize a swap partition with gparted?
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[01:29:24] <day|flip> linux_dream, if your just making a swap for part the installing process. then yes. but if your system is install maybe. then no. but you can used something called file swap
[01:29:40] <linux_dream> su day|flip
[01:29:46] <linux_dream> i just installed manjaro (again)
[01:29:54] <day|flip> it happens
[01:29:55] <linux_dream> you cant even imagine how much trouble the net edition was
[01:30:04] <day|flip> i done it way to meany time
[01:30:09] <linux_dream> i couldnt make it. so here i am, with the xfce one again
[01:30:16] <day|flip> lol
[01:30:24] <day|flip> parted is not that hard to used
[01:30:28] <linux_dream> i mean ive completed all the steps without errors but rebooting leads to a prompt and i cant enter anything
[01:30:31] <day|flip> i could help u
[01:30:32] <linux_dream> not even grub shows up
[01:30:49] <linux_dream> the thing is that i believe the dudes in the repair shop replaced a piece that killed my uefi
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[01:31:02] <day|flip> ehhh what
[01:31:05] <linux_dream> i tried an uefi install with the net edition, that-s why it failed
[01:31:22] <linux_dream> manjaro xfce by default doesn't install in uefi mode
[01:31:28] <linux_dream> so i guess it'S off
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[01:31:46] <linux_dream> or not working simply/disabled in the BIOS (though i can't see anywhere where to turn it on)
[01:32:07] <day|flip> do you git a gui like efi to were you can move your mouse around. or it all arrows keys
[01:32:08] <linux_dream> anyway it's not a big deal. this time I hope my manjaro will last long
[01:32:24] <linux_dream> when i booted you mean?
[01:32:30] <day|flip> yes
[01:32:40] <linux_dream> just a black screen with a prompt, keyboard not working and no mouse pointer
[01:32:45] <linux_dream> so i can'T do anything at all
[01:32:49] <Brenton32839> I have fresh install of manjaro. How do I change the label of the manjaro partion after the fact
[01:33:21] <linux_dream> day|flip, it's not a big deal. I'm fine without uefi too. manjaro works, that'S what matters
[01:34:22] <day|flip> Brenton32839, if you do change the label. then your going need the to change /etc/fstab so they match. this should been done first before installing
[01:34:54] <Brenton32839> I know. Fstab appears to mount by guide
[01:35:00] <Brenton32839> Uuid
[01:35:36] <day|flip> but there a risk on partition getting format just because you change the label
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[01:36:40] <linux_dream> how can i check whether partition table is GTP or ms-dos
[01:36:43] <linux_dream> gparted?
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[01:37:16] <linux_dream> i did the auto install
[01:37:22] <Brenton32839> Only other this is if grub messes up
[01:37:30] <linux_dream> it created a 255 MiB boot part
[01:37:36] <linux_dream> so i am in uefi mode??
[01:37:41] <day|flip> linux_dream, you got the right idea. gparted
[01:38:08] <linux_dream> i am there day|flip
[01:38:08] <day|flip> i'm running two linux kerenl install. and have boot set to 150mib
[01:38:51] <linux_dream> boot partition /boot is ext2
[01:38:59] <linux_dream> i guess it's legacy boot
[01:39:06] <day|flip> :)
[01:39:26] <linux_dream> so that's what manjaro did by default. uefi is really disabled.
[01:39:37] <Brenton32839> just changed partition label with a live CD. No worries still works
[01:39:39] <linux_dream> okay good to know
[01:40:15] <Brenton32839> OK now I need help setting up shared folders
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[01:43:16] <manjaro-web|1790> hello
[01:43:16] <Brenton32839> I want to start by setting fstab to mount two other partitions at boot and allow everyone complete control of them
[01:43:46] <manjaro-web|1790> what is the difference between calamares and the installer base?
[01:43:52] <manjaro-web|1790> thus
[01:44:37] <tmsbrdrs> I look at it like thus is stable and calamares is still beta. better than Alpha but there are still issues to be ironed out
[01:44:39] <linux_dream> i tested both. not much but the GUI
[01:44:40] <tmsbrdrs> it's pretty though
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[01:45:47] <manjaro-web|1790> thanks for all! excuse my english
[01:46:32] <manjaro-web|1790> I'm new on manjaro, now try cinnamon edition.. works great!
[01:46:45] <day|flip> calamares will become the main installer once they get everything over from thus to better btrfs support ect. it just not yet there
[01:47:22] <day|flip> i say it work will. it no yet there to be the Main yet
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[01:49:25] <Brenton32839> When naming a mount point in fstab does it have to be a folder previously created?
[01:50:28] <day|flip> i think it first: mounting point, fs , then label,
[01:50:40] <day|flip> don't remember
[01:51:06] <Brenton32839> My intention is to share this partition freely over the network. So is there any special place to mount it or options
[01:52:01] <day|flip> not sure uuid will be the way too go
[01:52:33] <day|flip> ./dev/sdX
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[01:54:53] <Brenton32839> OK so far I got /dev/sdb2/ and I put ntfs-3g next because its a windows partition right?
[01:55:25] <day|flip> is this for a exterminal hard drive?
[01:56:02] <day|flip> external**
[01:56:05] <Brenton32839> No
[01:56:47] <day|flip> i will look with. lsblk -f
[01:57:04] <Tarax> why can suddenly no more than one account run steam? Works flawless from one user account, but not from another.
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[01:57:51] <Brenton32839> It says fs type ntfs I already knew that
[01:58:49] <day|flip> if i remember right. ntfs-3g is a package for linux to read the file system
[01:59:56] <Brenton32839> Where do I make the folder to which this will be mounted? Is there a location or owner/permission of which will help this being freely used by anyone?
[02:01:20] <day|flip> will if everyone is going be using the same user name. you can add it to you home folder
[02:01:34] <day|flip> your**
[02:03:50] <Brenton32839> Different user names. Hoping to setup simple passwordless sharing
[02:04:29] <day|flip> ./media/win
[02:04:40] <day|flip> or /mnt/win
[02:05:22] <day|flip> be sure you make the name of the folder
[02:05:31] <Brenton32839> Does it matter whether I create this folder as me or do I become root to make it
[02:05:55] <day|flip> it not going mater since it in /
[02:06:04] <day|flip> or /media or /mnt
[02:06:30] <day|flip> user name are made in /home/$USER
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[02:09:17] <Brenton32839> so far I have /dev/sdb2 /media/win ntfs
[02:09:48] <Brenton32839> What option flags do I use
[02:09:51] <day|flip> no default 0 0
[02:10:48] <Brenton32839> Just plain no not noatime
[02:11:21] <linux_dream> hmm again i have problems to make zsh the default shell
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[02:11:34] <linux_dream> chsh -l lists /usr/bin/zsh and /bin/zsh
[02:11:44] <linux_dream> i did : chsh -s /usr/bin/zsh
[02:11:58] <linux_dream> asked my password, entered, etc. seemed to work (shell hsa been changed)
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[02:12:05] <linux_dream> but i restarted the terminal and it's still bash
[02:12:18] <linux_dream> any idea how to make zsh the default shell?
[02:12:21]
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[02:12:46] <Tarax> What can I do to fix Steam?
[02:13:01] <day|flip> linux_dream. your going need to log out. just exiting the terminal and starting will not work. it only work by login out
[02:13:15] <day|flip> linux_dream, root change is differet
[02:14:02] <linux_dream> thanks i didnt know that
[02:14:02] <day|flip> linux_dream, since your exit root and start root. you see the change as soon your back in your new root
[02:14:36] <day|flip> linux_dream, I ask the same dum question in the old forum
[02:15:23] <day|flip> I was thinking the say way you were. but I did not log out since i still in tty user acc and not exit
[02:16:02] <linux_dream> zsh ftw ^^
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[02:17:38] <day|flip> mksh for the win
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[02:18:18] <linux_dream> wuuut what is that
[02:18:27] <linux_dream> more secure than zsh?
[02:18:32] <Brenton32839> Mksh?
[02:19:05] <day|flip> yes it is
[02:19:45] <day|flip> Brenton32839, mksh is another shell. like bass or fish or zsh
[02:20:07] <Brenton32839> OK I rebooted and both partitions I added to fstab mounted like I want. Now what do I do to share these over my network freely
[02:20:42] <day|flip> i'm clueless with network
[02:20:56] <Brenton32839> Geeze I haven't gotten the hang of the default one yet. Much less think about another one
[02:21:24] <Tarax> does anyone know how to get Steam working om multiple Manjaro accounts? used to work automagically before.
[02:21:32] <day|flip> I been using for almost 8 year. but there so much still i have not tried
[02:21:55] <Brenton32839> I have tried instructions posted for share folder in file manager for manjaro. No luck
[02:21:57] <day|flip> networking is really stuff i don't understand much
[02:22:47] <day|flip> I can handle wifi. but that is it. sharing file through the network. i gone. I never work with such thing
[02:23:50] <day|flip> Tarax, I do not. If there no one here that can help you. Your next bet is to go to the manjaro forum
[02:24:11] <Brenton32839> sad face
[02:24:17] <day|flip> V.V
[02:24:27] <day|flip> >.<
[02:24:47] <Tarax> ok, thxanyway
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[02:25:46] <day|flip> There only so much that I have done my self. If i don't know the answer. Maybe the next best place. Can be the forum
[02:26:03] <day|flip> I have not used steam in years
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[02:26:27] <day|flip> last time I did. they just added support to tf2 for linux
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[02:28:16] <Tarax> its mainly for the kid playing tf2, it used to work out of the box but suddenly i can only start it from my log in.
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[02:28:53] <linux_dream> okay im almost done with setting up manjaro
[02:29:06] <linux_dream> removed over 150 packages and programs, installed a few others
[02:29:10] <linux_dream> modified some stuff
[02:29:14] <linux_dream> almost good to go
[02:29:57] <Tarax> seems his linux user account is missing some privilegies but which?
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[02:32:14] <day|flip> aur/steam-native you have this installed?
[02:32:25] <day|flip> pacman -Qs steam
[02:36:56] <Tarax> no,steam-manjaro i have
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[02:38:33] <Tarax> exit
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[04:01:26] <AndChat-261225> I got it! Sharing folders from manjaro and win7 beautifully now
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[04:04:35] <Brenton32839> Anyone want to know what I did to make sharing folders work?
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[04:08:43] <Brenton32839> Guest = nobody is default. Add nobody to sambashare group. Add user nobody with blank password. Used example in smb.conf for public. Folders on manjaro box are passwordless. Folders on win 7 box just enter user and password one time. Works now
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[04:10:01] <Brenton32839> Be nice if the GUI in manjaro for smb was more elaborate
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[04:14:54] <manjaro-web|6295> where to get tor browser in terminal
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[04:21:33] <day|flip> manjaro-web|6295, there are a few. links w3m elinks and lynx
[04:21:54] <day|flip> oo tor... idk
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[04:22:33] <brenton32839> I tried a few the other day. Clunky but functional. Couldn't get videos to play but got images to show
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[04:24:20] <brenton32839> I wanted a way to hit up email or read news with no clutter. Just read what is at a link. I think one or two even support point and click
[04:26:49] <brenton32839> How about a cli email app
[04:32:04] <brenton32839> I'm reading about mut alpine and sup. Hmm I guess you can email from command line
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[04:45:38] <brenton32839> I thought about adding a tiling window manager simple desktop to my manjaro kde as an alternate de to log in to. Didn't know if it would affect the way I have kde set up nice tho
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[04:48:21] <dietr1ch> on KDE I use a tilling plugin on kwin
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[04:49:57] <dietr1ch> I know kde supports using other window managers inside of it, I think I once tried openbox
[05:00:19] <brenton32839> Yea I have used openbox in kde. When I had lxqt and kde both
[05:01:40] <brenton32839> Any chance on having different window manager in two different activities?
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[05:13:23] <pingupingu> hello folks
[05:13:45] <pingupingu> any idea when plasma 5.7.2 release will be available in stable?
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[05:16:05] <darkon1957> bug report - issues with calamarie installer for xfce, causes not being able to connect to mirrors, finally installed with thus installer and everything worked
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[05:53:53] <brenton32839> Well alright all you great Linux guys I'm off to bed. Happy computing
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[06:15:05] <HoNgOuRu> hi, where is "abs" for download ?
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[06:27:54] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
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[08:40:07] <GeneL> anyone has better alternative other than xscreensaver fora lockscreen? @@
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[09:00:11] <wtiger> Hi
[09:00:45] <wtiger> I'm not able to log into my system after changing the shell from fish to zsh
[09:01:25] <wtiger> Used the sudo chsh -s /usr/bin/zsh command
[09:03:01] <wtiger> Now I'm stuck at loading version 229 .... n blocks screen
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[09:37:36] <peetaur2> wtiger if you're still here/back, you have to add your shell into /etc/shells too
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[09:38:00] <peetaur2> which might already have /bin/zsh but not /usr/bin/zsh
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[09:42:18] <lixa> is there a special symbols menu...for fonts?
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[09:49:20] <Mate-user1512> Einen sonnigen guten Morgen ihn der Runde:-)
[09:52:04] <peetaur2> leben in Deutschland, manchmal ich vergesse dass der Himmel blau ist
[09:52:11] * peetaur2 wonders if anyone can tell his German is terrible
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[09:56:19] <GeneL> Ich haz terrible Deutch
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[09:57:11] <superbia1> Was ist los?
[09:57:55] <GeneL> was it lost?
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[09:58:40] <superbia1> Hat jemand brauchen Hilfe?
[10:00:03] <GeneL> nicht ich jejeje
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[10:16:08] <Mate-user1512> Eine frage habe ich, gibt es einen Deutschsprachigen Raum bei HexChat Manjaro Linux Mate ?
[10:16:53] <superbia1> Mate-user1512: #manjaro-de
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[10:23:43] <Mate-user1512> Danke:-)
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[10:24:46] <superbia1> Bitte
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[12:03:49] <prillian5> which sensor for temperature are available as plasmoid
[12:03:51] <prillian5> in kde
[12:05:45] <peetaur2> prillian5: I find the kde stuff just wraps lm_sensors
[12:06:30] <prillian5> yes. but wihch one. I don't wan't to start a konsole... I wan't to have it directly in my view (maybe on kicker)
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[12:08:07] <peetaur2> I forget the names.... I don't use them. I find they are designed wrong and waste space.
[12:08:38] <peetaur2> I would like a little number as small as possible, and then maybe hover and it shows a graph... not some huge thing with 1 line graph per cpu taking up 1/4 the bar :D
[12:10:57] <prillian5> I'd like to have some tweaks to cool down my laptop. Any suggestion for kde based manjaro?
[12:11:52] <peetaur2> clean it, put it on a flat hard surface like a desk, not your lap, couch, etc. and don't use nouveau
[12:11:55] <prillian5> maybe something like a kicker-plasmoid to disable 2 of 4 cores or something else
[12:12:01] <peetaur2> and maybe you could disable some CPUs
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[12:12:15] <peetaur2> I don'tknow about a plasmoid, but you can use sysfs to disable cores
[12:12:27] <prillian5> ok, fine, how?
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[12:14:57] <prillian5> peetaur2: nouveau is the nvidia driver, right?
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[12:19:52] <peetaur2> prillian5: nouveau is the free nvidia driver
[12:20:44] <prillian5> peetaur2: ok, I have an asus N76vz with dual grapihcs-card. Intel and Nvidia. But I only use intel at the moment. But don't know, if nvidia is also installed.
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[12:22:53] <peetaur2> well even if not in use, if the nouveau driver is bound to the device, it might do its insanity thing with full voltage and clock and no fan and lots of heat
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[12:23:06] <peetaur2> lspci -k will show if it's in use
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[12:28:18] <prillian5> seems to be loaded
[12:28:30] <prillian5> 3rd last entry
[12:28:52] <prillian5> should I replace this driver? How can I do this?
[12:31:31] <peetaur2> prillian5: it doesn't say "in use" for nouveau... so maybe it's not used
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[12:37:31] <prillian5> ok, have done some modifications. Do a reboot now. See ya
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[13:22:33] <prillian5> If I shutdown my asus laptop to standby. it doesn't go fully to standby... but even don't come back up, If I reopen the laptop lid.
[13:22:42] <prillian5> how can I find out where the problem is.
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[13:37:17] <prillian5> Ok, seems to be a kernel failure. Now with 4.6 it works
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[13:40:31] <prillian5> Ok, last task for today... If I close the Laptop, but have an external tft connected... how can I prevent the laptop from go to standby, as long as the external monitor is connected?
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[13:52:51] <enertec> hello
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[13:53:37] <enertec> i would like a tool for copying things from drives to other drives that will check the copy process with checksums. is there something like that for linux? i was using teracopy on windows.
[13:53:48] <d4f> hello... anyone here with exp in qemu? having issue passing through my usb hdd to a windows guest
[13:55:20] <d4f> @enertec -rsync -c?
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[13:58:36] <enertec> back
[13:59:40] <enertec> is rsync command line?
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[14:03:02] <Strit_Laptop> enertec, yes it is.
[14:03:41] <enertec> not that i am affraid of the cli
[14:03:41] <oldfat> hello, just install conky but cannot find .conkyrc from my /home/oldfat nether conky dir from /etc/conky?? User error or what? :)
[14:04:07] <enertec> but i would like a gui better as i have to surf through a lot of directories
[14:04:32] <oldfat> sorry to interrup your disg.
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[14:06:44] <d4f> oldfat: did you check ls -alF
[14:06:49] <d4f> its usually hidden
[14:07:09] <oldfat> yep
[14:07:20] <d4f> create ur own?
[14:07:38] <d4f> or install the conky theme package
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[14:07:52] <d4f> or there are plenty of options on git
[14:08:19] <d4f> does conky -v work for you?
[14:08:40] <Strit_Laptop> a sample conf can be made with "conky -C <filename>" I think.
[14:09:01] <d4f> strict - any xp with libvirt/qemu?
[14:09:03] <oldfat> d4f yes
[14:09:26] <d4f> they just check -h on how to create a sample one
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[14:10:45] <oldfat> and it says that config file should be on their places, but not.
[14:11:09] <d4f> that didnt make sense
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[14:13:20] <oldfat> sorry d4f :) not english. conky -v say "...System config file: /etc/conky/conky.conf..." but it's not there
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[14:13:51] <oldfat> maybe i just try to create .conkyrc to homedir.
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[14:14:26] <peetaur2> enertec: rsync will check while copying, but if you want to save the checksums for later too, use find * -type f -not -name sums.txt -exec sha1sum {} + > sums.txt and to check it: sha1sum --quiet -c sums.txt
[14:15:25] <enertec> ups too much command line for me
[14:16:00] <d4f> enertec - thats the best part
[14:16:03] <peetaur2> understandable, but CLI is where all the power is...limited only by your creativity
[14:16:14] <enertec> i do know that
[14:16:15] <d4f> command pipeing
[14:16:22] <enertec> but takes too much time
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[14:16:40] <enertec> better if it would be done parallel to copiying
[14:18:18] <oldfat> thanks d4f. Creating new conkyrc to homedir solved it.
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[14:19:41] <d4f> just saw that browsing his site
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[14:19:50] <d4f> conky files that is
[14:20:25] <enertec> but i really appreciate your help
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[14:21:20] <enertec> so you guys use btrfs or zfs to protect your data against bit rotting oder so
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[14:24:47] <oldfat> thanks
[14:25:40] <d4f> enertec - i am reading up on that too
[14:25:53] <d4f> not sure myself
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[14:26:38] <d4f> have a list of requirements around scalability, recovery, compressions, encryption... read up and make a choice
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[14:32:31] <enertec> hi d4f
[14:32:40] <enertec> do you get my idea?
[14:33:22] <enertec> i can do some bash scripting but if i will use sha1sum again on both files it will be only more work
[14:33:37] <enertec> check sum source and destination plus the copy process
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[14:34:03] <enertec> best idea is to setup a windows system and do it with teracopy
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[14:35:27] <enertec> may i ask another question?
[14:35:49] <enertec> which linux distribution do you think does have the most application in their repos?
[14:36:09] <enertec> even including the AUR i cant find all stuff under arch
[14:36:25] <enertec> ubuntu? debian? suse?
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[14:38:16] <mr_jason> arch linux?
[14:38:48] <enertec> as i said above
[14:38:58] <enertec> seems not all stuff is in the AUR
[14:42:49] <peetaur2> none have all
[14:42:56] <peetaur2> but arch has probably most including AUR, and debian probably 2nd
[14:47:42] <d42> quite a lot of the stuff in aur is of very low quality though ,_,
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[15:22:06] <linux_dream> anyone knows which linux distro ringo32 is using?
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[16:22:19] <d1z> helo
[16:23:03] <d1z> I'm about to test manjaro. I'm going to install it on an hp mini laptop that has no cd rom unit
[16:23:13] <d1z> so I'm going to use a usb stick
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[16:24:11] <d1z> I was wondering if what's true of the original archlinux iso image, is also true for manjaro's iso. Namely the fact that they need to be written with `dd` to the entire /dev/sdb, instead of a named partition like /dev/sdb1
[16:24:59] <d1z> is this the case also for manjaro? I ask because I have only one usb stick available and it has two partitions, /dev/sdb1 in vfat for data, and /dev/sdb2 for a persistent installation of a linux distro I have there
[16:25:27] <d1z> I wouldn't want to wipe the whole thing but use the already existing vfat partition instead
[16:25:43] <d1z> but hey what's needed is what's needed
[16:26:37] <peetaur2> d1z: it's the same for any iso file, windows, linux, freedos, whatever
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[16:27:22] <peetaur2> the hardware has to look at the spot where it expects the bootloader... only one bootloader can be there, but it can chainload to other bootloaders after that point. (I think maybe yummiboot or something like that will do this)
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[17:19:49] <Batch> hello
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[17:42:50] <enertec> hi guys
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[18:39:48] <d1z> ]guys I'm having problems getting this hp mini 210-4000 to boot the usb stick that I just setup with the manjaro iso. Thing is this probably a uefi laptop (don't know much about uefi) because it has windows 10 on it (maybe 8.1 idk). The thing is the usb stick doesn't boot, but I tried it on a different laptop and it does boot but on legacy bios mode instead of uefi
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[18:40:11] <d1z> the problem is that the laptop I'm trying to install manjaron on, doesn't have a uefi/legacybios option in the bios
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[18:40:29] <d1z> it seems to be plain uefi. What problem am I facing here and what should I do?
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[18:42:41] <Jeannie> Either instsall in UEFI mode or difg through the options of your UEFI andlook for something like compatibility support module, csm, legacy boot or something similar
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[18:48:49] <mparillo> d1z: Have you turned Secure Boot off?
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[19:02:51] <d1z> mparillo: jeannie, there's not a single uefi/legacy or whatever other option available in the entire bios setup
[19:02:55] <d1z> I just double checked
[19:03:16] <d1z> no secure boot no compatibility mode, nothing
[19:04:02] <d1z> it's a pretty simple utility with barely any options to customize. Only relevant thing is the boot sequence devices and Ialready set that up so I get the usb stick to boot first, but it doesn't
[19:04:58] <d1z> in my experience HP bios setup have always been pretty restricted, and this seems to be the father of them all
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[19:06:45] <Jeannie> Legacy boot option is part of the uefi standard's specs, return that thing asap
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[19:08:30] <d1z> jeannie: I wish I could but it's already pretty roughed up, definitely not under warranty
[19:09:17] <d1z> it was gifted from my gf's sister to my gf, with windows 10 installed on it... needless to say the thing is borderline unusable
[19:09:34] <d1z> so I told my gf I would install somethingproper on it. At least I'm trying to...
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[19:10:30] <Jeannie> Win 10 OEM requires secure boot
[19:11:05] <d1z> oh shit, it's actually 64 bit... oh why oh why did I download the 32bit version of manjaro...
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[19:12:05] <d1z> my internet is barely 120KB/s, and that's only in the nights (11pm-8am) when my isp isn't collapsed
[19:12:21] <linux_dream> oh man that sucks
[19:12:49] <linux_dream> took me 32 mins to download manjaro xfce 64 bits yesterday and i have about 5 times your speed so i can understand the pain
[19:13:02] <linux_dream> you might consider the net edition
[19:13:22] <linux_dream> i tried it but failed at booting my machine despite completing the installation process without any error
[19:13:40] <linux_dream> so good luck
[19:14:54] <d1z> I guess I'll just have to wait to download the 64bits one. No sense on having it download at barely 50KB/s at this time, making my already terrible bandwidth even more scarce
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[19:15:42] <linux_dream> do it at night
[19:15:49] <linux_dream> let the cpu run all night
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[19:16:11] <d1z> what makes me mad the most is that I actually searched the processor yesterday, and came up with an HP support thread where a guy with this same laptop was crying for some bios update that will allow him to get 64bits out of the processor with one stupid answer from an hp tech guy which made me believe this little thing was actually 32bits
[19:16:32] <d1z> god I hate hp
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[19:17:15] <linux_dream> oh i see
[19:17:26] <Brenton32839> What os came on it
[19:17:33] <linux_dream> HP means windows
[19:17:59] <Brenton32839> Well what did the OEM os report it as?
[19:18:02] <d1z> it ships with w7
[19:18:14] <d1z> nothing
[19:18:27] <d1z> it says nothing, in bios it says w7, no bits info available
[19:18:44]
-FatalException- [https://is.gd/KHLRgL] Where to find 32-bit/64-bit BIOS for HP mini 210-4000cto - HP Support Forum - 3260633
[19:18:57] <Strit_Laptop> d1z, but inside the Windows info screen it will mention if the OS is 32-bit or 64 bit.
[19:19:22] <Brenton32839> Exactly what I was getting at
[19:20:00] <d1z> strit_laptop: sure, I just wouldn't want to wait the full 10 minutes that this thing seems to last to finally reach the welcome/login screen
[19:20:13] <Strit_Laptop> hehe
[19:20:21] <Brenton32839> Of course I have seen a 64bit machine with a 32 os for economy model
[19:20:28] <d1z> I said it shipped with w7, that's what it says in the bios. But the laptop was given to my gf with windows 10 installed
[19:20:34] <d1z> which made the matters even worse
[19:21:32] <Brenton32839> Try a live CD of Linux for a 64 see if it boots
[19:21:57] <linux_dream> dude i used my computer 5 years with a 32 bit OS coz it came with a 32 bit OS and i thought it couldn't support 64 bits
[19:22:02] <d1z> anyways, enough crying, gotta wait for the 64bits one to finally download, attempt installation, and then get back here crying if it doesn't work.
[19:22:22] <linux_dream> good idea d1z
[19:22:25] <d1z> brenton32839: that's a good idea, I'm going to try that, I think I have some cd's around
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[19:22:58] <Brenton32839> Most computers sold with windows 7 were typically 64bit machines
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[19:23:20] <d1z> I guess, but windows 7 32bit definitely exists
[19:23:37] <d1z> I've seen it, so that didn't exclude the possibility for me
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[19:23:49] <d1z> anyways sorry for all the tears, peace, bbl!
[19:24:16] <linux_dream> c u
[19:24:20] <Brenton32839> Yea I've seen dells that were a 64bit machine but had win7 32 installed by the OEM because it was a cheapo model
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[19:29:52] <Brenton32839> For infinite wisdom, when mapping guest to nobody in samba, you have to add nobody to sambashare group too. Documentation on manjaro or arch wiki fails to mention this.
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[20:38:44] <Guest99925> when I hit ctrl+alt+f* I get a blinking cursor nothing else
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[20:39:30] <ringo32> what should do?
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[20:47:38] <VoidFox> Guest99925: catalyst?
[20:48:03] <Guest99925> VoidFox I'm not sure tbh
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[20:48:45] <Guest99925> I just bought this computer but I can check
[20:48:47] <VoidFox> might also want to look into framebuffers.. my best guess
[20:49:21] <Guest99925> lol I'm not sure what that means but it gives me a start on where to look thank you
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[20:53:46] <ringo32> Yo badbodh
[20:54:10] <badbodh> yo ringer !
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[20:54:41] <ringo32> :)
[20:55:05] <Guest99925> ok I guess tty (f1) are boot messages, f2-f6 works fine thank you for your help
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[20:57:36] <ringo32> im lost :)
[20:57:46] <ringo32> badbodh, good day?
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[21:00:32] <badbodh> ringo32, lol. good story
[21:00:50] * ringo32 i gues not
[21:01:11] <ringo32> badbodh, can we play pokemon go also on the forum? :)
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[21:01:43] <badbodh> how
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[21:02:13] <ringo32> i dont know :)
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[21:03:29] <ringo32> mayby is this enough
[21:03:38] <ringo32> !aur pokeshell
[21:04:07] <badbodh> meh. i don;t play games. dedicated/exclusive counter strike player :P
[21:04:18] <badbodh> *other games
[21:05:03] <ringo32> !aur powermanga
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[21:10:35] <ringo32> hej louis__1 long time no seee
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[21:10:57] <louis__1> hey ringo :)
[21:11:20] <ringo32> if i get the right person :p
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[21:11:31] <louis__1> ringo32, bought new ssd drive reinstalled things...
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[21:11:38] <louis__1> yeah its me :)
[21:11:54] <ringo32> one drive or two?
[21:12:00] <louis__1> one
[21:12:09] <ringo32> hah got two :p
[21:12:15] <louis__1> damn :)
[21:12:29] <ringo32> SSd is for the root :p
[21:12:35] <ringo32> 120gb :p bit too much
[21:12:39] <ringo32> but i dont care :)
[21:12:40] <linux_dream> LOOOL
[21:13:10] <louis__1> I got 250GB SSD sandisk, fast as hell :)
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[21:13:39] <ringo32> only SSD for my root is fast enough :)
[21:14:18] <louis__1> its good anyway
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[21:14:54] <ringo32> also got a sandisk when i jumped to anter... i made it sure SSD was very clean
[21:15:06] <louis__1> do you know there is some problem with manjaro-settings-manager? it wont open driver installer
[21:15:29] <ringo32> saw something Strit_Laptop should know it
[21:15:34] <ringo32> i think
[21:15:42] <ringo32> he mentioned that in github i think
[21:15:55] <louis__1> I'm on testing perhaps thats why
[21:16:00] <ringo32> nah
[21:16:17] <shambles07> has anyone ever tried Apricity?
[21:16:20] <ringo32> is not testing i dont know normally you get soon or later if noone report
[21:16:36] <ringo32> mike-zal, used it gues shambles07
[21:16:45] <louis__1> yeah mhwd did the job
[21:17:09] <shambles07> hmm. i'm gonna try it out
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[21:20:01] <Jeannie> A stripped down gnome3 and web apps. Sounds like nothing I'd touch with a ten foot pole
[21:20:50] <louis__1> I like gnome3 but prefer to use xfce
[21:21:21] <Jeannie> For many years, I have tried to like gnome3
[21:21:25] <ringo32> its all the same these days
[21:21:31] <ringo32> its Web or QT
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-FatalException- [https://is.gd/j8fgUH] Libbluray dependency on freetype2 breaks non-Manjaro freetype2-* packages - Newbie Corner - Manjaro
[21:21:39] <louis__1> I getting bored with fancy things after a short time :)
[21:21:40] <mike-zal> shambles07, yes, I tried it, but over hald year ago. now they added cinnamon.
[21:21:51] <mike-zal> so I was testing only gnome version
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[21:22:32] <Jeannie> My last Gnome3 system was installed for 30 minutes
[21:22:51] <ringo32> 30 minuted?
[21:23:06] <Jeannie> Yes, half an hour
[21:23:40] <louis__1> what you use now?
[21:23:43] <ringo32> which os?
[21:23:54] <mike-zal> quite nice, sort of better looking elementart os. however apricity os lacked broadcom drivers so I had no wifi on it. maybe they fixed it till now? shambles07
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[21:24:08] <Jeannie> It was some Arch derivate
[21:24:24] <Jeannie> RIght now I am back on MATE GTK2
[21:24:25] <ringo32> oh...
[21:24:44] <superbia> Jeannie: Guten Abend <3 !
[21:24:56] <superbia> Jeannie: Wie geht es?
[21:25:28] <mike-zal> one could say that apricity os on gnome is configured like OS X but looks better ;)
[21:26:00] <louis__1> its because the theme nice or works better? :)
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[21:26:55] <conor> ello
[21:27:01] <mike-zal> has someone experienced icon leftovers on cinnamon desktop?
[21:27:03] <louis__1> I can't give up on manjaro... the AUR the easy configs the rolling distro etc...
[21:27:23] <conor> Manjaro >
[21:27:35] <linux_dream> guys
[21:27:40] <conor> dudes
[21:27:42] <linux_dream> when will there be a new update in stable repo?
[21:27:49] <mike-zal> I mean, when moving icon, on old place there is icon that is not active, sort of graphical halo, but without distortion
[21:27:54] <linux_dream> coz mpsyt doesn't work with the current out of date packages
[21:27:59] <linux_dream> i cant listen to music
[21:27:59] <louis__1> i guess they are on holiday :)
[21:28:24] <linux_dream> i guess i must switch to testing or unstable. i dont know the diff
[21:28:36] * ringo32 listen to gnome-mpv
[21:28:36] <linux_dream> say i want to be as close to "arch stable"
[21:28:45] <ringo32> manjaro-unstable
[21:28:50] <louis__1> vlc?
[21:28:52] <linux_dream> really?
[21:29:01] <linux_dream> manjaro unstable is like arch stable?
[21:29:08] <linux_dream> what is manjaro testing then ?
[21:29:21] <ringo32> testing is a buffer
[21:29:26] <louis__1> testing is arch stable
[21:29:35] <linux_dream> this is what i thought louis__1
[21:29:45] <ringo32> testing is arch-very-stable
[21:29:52] <superbia> ringo32: that would be dark magic
[21:29:52] <ringo32> stable is arch-rock-stable
[21:29:53] <ringo32> :)
[21:30:05] <superbia> ringo32: i thought you werent ever coming back to these dark lands
[21:30:09] <linux_dream> so why is ringo32 saying arch stable corresponds ot manjaro unstable?
[21:30:19] <ringo32> can be 1 day differ
[21:30:33] <ringo32> update from unstable to testing is kinda variable
[21:30:38] <ringo32> can be 1 day or same day
[21:30:42] <ringo32> or 2 day
[21:30:46] <ringo32> from unstable
[21:30:51] <linux_dream> the thing is , i want to be as close sa possible to arch stable. i should go with manjaro unstable like ringo32 says or manjaro testing like louis__1 says?
[21:30:58] <ringo32> and stable is variable 1 week too 1 month
[21:31:05] <mike-zal> no, no one on cinnamon icon issue? ok, that's not so important. What about libre office dark theme issue? I heard that there is a way to fix it by some libre office settings, but have no idea which one or what and where to look for it
[21:31:23] <ringo32> mike-zal, you can change libreoffice theme
[21:31:27] <louis__1> linux_dream, I'm on testing and it works fine. unstable i don't know
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[21:31:53] <linux_dream> louis__1, i just have to comment and uncomment the respective parts in /etc/pacman.conf and sudo pacman -Syu ?
[21:31:55] <louis__1> linux_dream, I don't mind waiting 1-2 weeks for new software
[21:32:11] <Jeannie> You need to make sure to use GTK3.20 comptible themes and icon sets on Cinnamon
[21:32:26] <linux_dream> the thing is mpsyt is totally broken louis__1 I can't listen to music and its been 10 days or more since i installed manjaro (reinstalled yesterday)
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[21:32:30] <linux_dream> no music sucks
[21:32:36] <superbia> Jeannie: ignoring me...
[21:32:36] <linux_dream> tired of that
[21:32:42] <ringo32> !aur gnome-mpv
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[21:32:50] <ringo32> :)
[21:32:52] <linux_dream> i want mpsyt
[21:33:01] <linux_dream> it streams youtube soundtracks from the terminal
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[21:33:02] <ringo32> !aur pyschoduck
[21:33:03] <FatalException> I had no results for that query.
[21:33:20] <mike-zal> Jeannie, I use DEFAULT manjaro theme, maia dark and it doesn't work well with DEFAULT libre office, all included in release
[21:33:24] <ringo32> bolvary, lxqt
[21:33:24] <linux_dream> so how do i switch from stable to testing? edit pacman.conf and update system?
[21:33:27] <ringo32> ?
[21:33:41] <Jeannie> libre office fresh or libre office still?
[21:33:42] <ringo32> bolvary, lxsession-git was a fix
[21:33:49] <ringo32> but
[21:33:58] <mike-zal> to my suprise libre fresh, although I prefer still
[21:34:09] <ringo32> the ubuntu thing breaks a bit
[21:34:12] <Jeannie> So do I
[21:34:14] <mike-zal> I mean, fresh came with this manjaro flavour
[21:34:18] <ringo32> how calll the font stuf ?
[21:34:28] <linux_dream> what's with mirror louis__1 ?
[21:34:56] <ringo32> unstable is just a sort a filter they can keep things back
[21:37:07] <ringo32> if you wanna close to arch then is ise more arch-based distro then manjaro lol
[21:37:25] <linux_dream> i mean close in terms of versions of packages
[21:37:41] <linux_dream> coz the diff between mpsyt 0.2.6 and 0.2.7 is GIGANTIC
[21:37:47] <ringo32> mostly of the day testing is stable + you get quicker updates
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[21:37:53] <linux_dream> one works, the other doesn't work AT ALL
[21:38:06] <linux_dream> fine for me
[21:38:09] <linux_dream> i want to switch to stable
[21:38:15] <louis__1> yeah testing is pretty good
[21:38:15] <linux_dream> i mean testing
[21:38:29] <linux_dream> i just edit pacman.conf and update the system?
[21:38:32] <ringo32> mpsyt is a aur package?
[21:38:44] <linux_dream> no
[21:38:52] <linux_dream> mps-youtube , community i think
[21:38:55] <superbia> ringo32: so much traffic in here i cant keep up
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[21:39:02] <louis__1> pacman-mirrors.conf
[21:39:05] <superbia> ringo32: you will have to put voice mode on
[21:39:15] <linux_dream> mpsyt = mps-youtube
[21:39:18] <mike-zal> thanks ringo32, I found themes in libre office, although weirdly it was in options, not customization...
[21:39:30] <ringo32> linux_dream, use unstable :p
[21:39:37] <linux_dream> really?
[21:39:49] <ringo32> if you wanna close with arch-stable
[21:40:08] <linux_dream> testing is 1 day behind?
[21:40:11] <linux_dream> if so , it's ok
[21:40:15] <superbia> why dont you use arch
[21:40:16] <Jeannie> I have two manjaros running one of them uses the unstable branch and has been working for almost 3 years now
[21:40:21] <louis__1> what musics you can't play? mp3?
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[21:41:03] <linux_dream> any music . i used to listen to streamed music from youtube with mpsyt. but youtube modified their websites and mpsyt had to release an update to fix it. which it did like 2 weeks ago but manjaro didn't update it
[21:41:21] <linux_dream> so it's been 10 days without music and i cant wait until the next stable update
[21:41:24] <superbia> youtube
[21:41:26] <linux_dream> have to switch to testing
[21:41:27] <superbia> = > shit
[21:41:32] <superbia> youtube -> shit
[21:41:36] <linux_dream> nah it's good i get 192 quality
[21:41:37] <Jeannie> Have you looked in the aur for the new version?
[21:41:45] <linux_dream> no Jeannie i havent
[21:41:45] <louis__1> did you checked AUR?
[21:41:47] <mike-zal> linux_dream, try spotify
[21:41:56] <superbia> try internet radios
[21:42:08] <Jeannie> Spotify can't stream youtube and is not cli ;)
[21:42:33] <superbia> since when does Jeannie use CLI
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[21:42:43] <louis__1> I use youtube-dl-gui if need some music :)
[21:42:49] <mike-zal> browser can stram youtube ;). not the last time listening music from site... :P
[21:42:52] <linux_dream> mpsyt can also download songs from youtube very quickly, but i dont do it in general. i prefer stream
[21:43:09] <ringo32> i use soundcloud
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[21:43:28] <mike-zal> also, cli is overrated ;)
[21:43:58] <superbia> i mean why dont you find a song on youtube, and youtube-dl -> ffmpeg to convert it to mp3
[21:44:03] <superbia> and save it offline
[21:44:05] <ringo32> !aut sc-dl
[21:44:10] <superbia> because offline music collection is gold
[21:44:10] <ringo32> !aur sc-dl
[21:44:10] <FatalException> I had no results for that query.
[21:44:15] <ringo32> !aur scdl
[21:44:15] <FatalException> I had no results for that query.
[21:44:15] <superbia> !aur ringo
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[21:44:40] <mike-zal> lol
[21:44:45] <ringo32> !aur soundcloud-dl-git
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[21:45:25] <ringo32> :)
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[21:46:00] <ringo32> mostly i make a list what i like and download in a push
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[21:46:38] <superbia> isnt soundcloud and spotify and other american shit banned in euroland?
[21:46:49] <superbia> so why even download a client for it
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[21:47:28] <ringo32> soundcloud is not banned
[21:47:30] <ringo32> :p
[21:47:43] <superbia> it is limited in my glorious country
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[21:48:01] <ringo32> some music are limited and is protected
[21:48:04] <ringo32> but some mixes not
[21:48:14] <ringo32> even some put it on as it is
[21:48:21] <ringo32> then it works
[21:48:24]
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[21:48:43] <ringo32> DRM is a questionable
[21:48:59] <ringo32> is like Manjaro iso's are in canada illigale technically
[21:49:03] <ringo32> :p
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[21:49:13] <ringo32> but noone gona say it
[21:49:15] <ringo32> ;)
[21:49:17] <superbia> right
[21:49:27] <ringo32> because of some DRM that is on the iso
[21:49:29] <superbia> ringo32: so are you antergos only now?
[21:49:43] <ringo32> like nonfree video drivers and sound modules
[21:49:53] <ringo32> thats why mint had two different iso's
[21:50:01] <ringo32> now is like ubuntu in mint 18
[21:50:30] <louis__1> toyota supports linux :0
[21:50:42] <ringo32> :)
[21:50:44] <superbia> sue toyota
[21:50:49] <superbia> you cant enclose gpl
[21:50:50] * ringo32 Microsoft loves linux
[21:51:03] <ringo32> that isnt
[21:51:05] <superbia> 90% MS servers is linux hosted
[21:51:10] <superbia> that is allowed
[21:51:24] <ringo32> some company's buy license and spread it for free also
[21:51:30] <ringo32> but its just a group
[21:51:32] <superbia> you cant buy licence
[21:51:39] <superbia> you cant buy licence to enclose gpl
[21:51:43] <ringo32> license you buy nonfree atleast
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[21:52:29] <ringo32> why dit bill gates bought license of Dirty Operating system ?
[21:52:53] <ringo32> while unix thiks the bom
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[21:53:20] * ringo32 watched jurasic parc and its unix system
[21:53:54] <ringo32> louis__1, you scared him away?
[21:53:55] <louis__1> I used win 10 because wanted to try photoshop cc. win 10 a nightmare. if you want to get rid of cortana you can trick it out but than you lost the search function in the start menu. what a bs :)
[21:53:55] <ringo32> :)
[21:53:58] <superbia> its unix-lige
[21:53:59] <superbia> like
[21:54:06] <superbia> you cant use "Unix" its patented
[21:54:12] <superbia> you can use "unix-like"
[21:54:14] <louis__1> ringo32, scared who? :0
[21:54:33] <ringo32> first of all to go to linux is :
[21:54:38] <ringo32> format c: /p
[21:54:45] <ringo32> and think of nothing
[21:54:50] <ringo32> and install a linux on it
[21:54:51] <superbia> step #1 download rufus
[21:54:56] <superbia> #2 burn is
[21:55:00] <ringo32> :lol
[21:55:04] <superbia> ringo32: are you antergos only now?
[21:55:16] <ringo32> yeah, should leave here again?
[21:55:22] <superbia> ringo32: yes
[21:55:26] <ringo32> :only my wife got manjaro
[21:55:34] <superbia> ringo32: you generate too much sexyness
[21:55:43] <superbia> ringo32: you attract me to type
[21:55:52] <ringo32> who can decide for me
[21:55:56] <ringo32> !aur pactray
[21:55:58] <ringo32> or
[21:55:59] <mike-zal> louis__1, good that cortanta doesn't work for none english countries.
[21:56:02] <ringo32> !aur kalu
[21:56:14] <ringo32> ?
[21:56:17] <Jeannie> Cortana worked in german on my Win10 test install
[21:56:28] <superbia> Jeannie: why dont you use win10?
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[21:56:41] <louis__1> mike-zal, yeah what a rubbish thing
[21:56:45] <ringo32> Jeannie, gnome-shell theme on win10 rocks
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[21:56:53] <ringo32> :)
[21:56:57] <Jeannie> I am absolutely sure it does
[21:57:11] <ringo32> kde also works on windows
[21:57:12] <Jeannie> The very best of both worlds
[21:57:19] <Jeannie> Win10 Gnome3...
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[21:57:29] <superbia> and best of all
[21:57:32] <superbia> its pure GUI
[21:57:37] <superbia> because cli is overrated
[21:57:39] <louis__1> prefer pure linux not mixing it :)
[22:00:01] <superbia> ringo32: thank you for teh kind suggestion
[22:00:12] <superbia> ringo32: but i will be forced to skip it
[22:01:11] <louis__1> looks like win98 on tray and start menu :0
[22:02:28] <ringo32> pc-bsd use lumina-desktop but uses fluxbox
[22:02:34] <ringo32> is qt5 stuff
[22:02:41] <ringo32> manjaro have it too ;:p
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[22:03:39] <torak> hello everyone!
[22:03:48] <ringo32> ieks torak !
[22:04:36] <conor> you guys see the live hidden pokemon go python script, on reddit?
[22:04:39] <Brenton32839> Was hoping if I pray to the Linux gods someone might pick up development of pykaraoke and go further with it. Dead since 2011
[22:04:56] <torak> can anybody help me about my scanner problem. I have a scanner wich linux doesnt support so i have installed virtualbox with vista and i am trying to connect my scanner to Vbox. But manjaro doesnt even detect a usb or a device. So i wont be able to choose usb device to use from virtualbox. ???
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[22:05:07] <ringo32> which scanner
[22:05:13] <torak> xerox 4800
[22:05:26] <ringo32> !wiki xerox
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[22:06:05] <torak> ringo32: that wont work.
[22:06:38] <ringo32> hah is scanner
[22:06:39] <ringo32> ooops
[22:07:20] <torak> If i can find a way to connect my usb to virtualbox that will do. But it doesnt even detect a device...
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[22:09:47] <torak> Can anyone help?
[22:09:50] <ringo32> hah you have extra stuf for virtualbox installed
[22:09:59] <ringo32> is for usb2.0 i gues
[22:10:18] <mike-zal> torak, are there any linux drivers for your scanner? like in rpm or deb format? if so, there is a chance you will also find them in AUR
[22:10:32] <torak> no but the problem is my linux doesnt see the device. So vm cant see it too.
[22:10:48] <torak> mike-zal: no there is no driver for this device.
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[22:11:12] <torak> mike-zal: its an old device :/
[22:11:12] <ringo32> but if virtualbox
[22:11:23] <ringo32> makes no co,ntact to usb then you also hooked?
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[22:11:54] <torak> ringo32: vbox sees my mouse my keyboard or card reader.
[22:12:10] <mike-zal> how old? brother usually have linux drivers even for 10 years old or older equipment. not sure abut xerox thou
[22:12:11] <torak> ringo32: everything exept scanner
[22:12:12] <ringo32> is not it
[22:12:25] <torak> mike-zal: its not brother its xerox 4800
[22:12:29] <ringo32> keyboard or mouse is different
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[22:12:46] <ringo32> extention pack need for extra stuf for virtualbox
[22:12:55] <ringo32> i gues
[22:13:05] <ringo32> is like to enable use usb 2.0
[22:13:12] <mike-zal> I know, but I'm just saying that there might be drivers for it. have you searched on xerox page?
[22:13:13] <torak> ringo32: okay let me install it and try like that but even lsusb doesnt see the device
[22:13:16] <louis__1> also printer and scanner combo many times tricky
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[22:13:46] <torak> mike-zal: xerox even have driver for windows 7. they just provide xp and 98 for this device. not mac too.
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[22:14:21] <ringo32> torak just standard makes things small you wanna use thinks then is extention pack needed
[22:14:29] <ringo32> also like disk sharing
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[22:15:24] <torak> ringo32: i am installing the ext pack right now. I hope it works
[22:15:37] <mike-zal> torak, sometimes it's possible to run some basic functions through generic drivers, although it's harder for scanner then printer.
[22:16:15] <torak> mike-zal: skanlite doesnt detect any device
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[22:17:21]
-FatalException- [https://is.gd/raW213] [ubuntu] [SOLVED] What do I need to get my xerox scanner working please? [Archive] - Ubuntu Forums
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[22:18:59] <torak> ringo32: this guys lsusb sees the device mine does not.
[22:19:41] <ringo32> try anothe rport?
[22:19:53] <torak> tried all of them
[22:21:45] <torak> ringo32: i cant install ext package it says "VBoxExtPackRegister returned VERR_VERSION_MISMATCH, pReg=0000000000000000 ErrInfo='VirtualBox version mismatch - expected 5.1 got 5.0'"
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[22:22:12] <ringo32> huhmmm
[22:22:36] <ringo32> but i gues problem is pc does not recognize scanner is think a bigger problem
[22:22:53] <torak> yes
[22:23:15] <ringo32> how old it xerox 4800 ?
[22:23:22] <torak> how dumb these guys should be to not releasing a windows 7 driver.
[22:24:07] <torak> ringo32: i am not sure but manual says 2003 august
[22:24:43] <ringo32> generally worked hp is around 70 / 80 euro and its supported, is just for think :)
[22:25:20] <ringo32> alround printers*
[22:25:20] <louis__1> vista driver should work in win 7
[22:25:41] <torak> louis__1: yes it should. :(
[22:25:43] <Jeannie> Vista means death
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[22:28:35] <torak> Jeannie: :D
[22:28:43] <bell> hi
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[22:29:05] <Guest92544> volume to low on max in baka mplayer
[22:29:17] <Guest92544> howto boost audio?
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[22:33:30] <ringo32> only on baka ?
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[22:33:53] <Guest92544> yup
[22:33:59] <Guest92544> bakend is mpv
[22:34:15] <Guest92544> so maybe question should be howto boost audio in mpv
[22:34:23] <Guest92544> backend*
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[22:39:20] <Guest92544> ringo32: yea, saw it didn't help will try it again
[22:39:41] <torak> do anyone need an AIESEC inten?
[22:39:44] <torak> intern
[22:40:36] <mike-zal> torak, are you sure your scanner is on?
[22:40:47] <torak> mike-zal: yes i am sure :)
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[22:40:59] <mike-zal> are you sure your scanner works...?
[22:43:47] <ringo32> mike-zal, donate him 70 euro :)
[22:44:16] <ringo32> xerox 4800 has no xsane drivers
[22:44:20] <Brenton32839> See previous pakagebuild I got someone to submit to aur recently
[22:44:25] <ringo32> only other type printer
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[22:44:48] <ringo32> !ayr pykaraoke
[22:44:53] <ringo32> !aur pykaraoke
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[22:45:56] <Brenton32839> Yea but there is a development version with extra features I would like someone to build and submit to aur so I can try it
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[22:47:28] <Brenton32839> Yea strit did that for me recently. Super nice
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[22:57:34] <Guest92544> ringo32: so managed to set up mpv - audio is ok
[22:57:47] <Guest92544> ringo32: but in baka it's almost not hearable
[22:58:18] <Guest92544> ringo32: located config file for baka, which is overwritten on every run - seems like a bug
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[22:59:42] <Guest92544> ringo32: thanks anyway
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[23:11:00] <bugzbunny> torak, You have to install VirtualBox 5.1 or fetch extension for VirtualBox 5.0.
[23:11:15] <ringo32> lol thats in testing :p
[23:12:33] * bugzbunny exits Windows and switch to Manjaro, wish me luck that my computer doesn't crash and burn
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[23:18:34] <Brenton32839> *luck wished
[23:19:28] * ringo32 wished very luck
[23:19:29] <ringo32> :)
[23:19:40] <ringo32> torak, or tarok?
[23:19:42] <ringo32> :)
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[23:20:46] <bugzbunny> Well, looks like EXT had to recover from journal... Looks like I didn't shutdown the computer down successfully because it got *stuck*
[23:20:59] <bugzbunny> And my monitor settings didn't stick in LXQT.... sigh..
[23:21:09] <ringo32> mmmm
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[23:24:17] <ringo32> how come?
[23:24:20] <bugzbunny> Uh oh, my server is screaming, something is wrong
[23:24:30] <ringo32> video ?
[23:25:01] <bugzbunny> ringo32: I have no idea, I am googling to figure out what 'keep monitors attach'
[23:25:09] <bugzbunny> mean
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[23:28:53] <kaelthas> Hi guys, how are you doing?
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[23:30:05] <ringo32> mmmmm dont know you talk about monitor but also ext?
[23:30:51] <bugzbunny> ringo32: My filesystem is fine, not an issue, the monitors I fixed until next reboot....
[23:31:23] <ringo32> oh not good
[23:32:03] <kaelthas> I have a few questions. 1) I don't see any updates in the update manager, is something wrong? 2) How do I get updates for stuff installed from the AUR? 3) I can't install some programs from the AUR, I keep getting:
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[23:32:20] <kaelthas> One or more files didn't pass the validity check!
[23:32:28] <ringo32> ah that
[23:32:35] <kaelthas> Makepkg was unable to build google-chrome.
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[23:34:59] <Esclapion> 2) yaourt -Syua
[23:35:16] <Brenton32839> Try chromium
[23:36:02] <Esclapion> 1) i have no updates too, there is a problem of themes, and philm wait
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[23:36:46] <ringo32> kaelthas,
[23:37:13] <ringo32> yaourt -S --m-arg (skippgpcheck) google-chrome
[23:37:16] <ringo32> ?
[23:37:42] <kaelthas> Should I run: yaourt -S --m-arg (skippgpcheck) google-chrome?
[23:37:54] <ringo32> wait
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[23:40:24] <Esclapion> google-chrome is flagged red "out-of-date"
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[23:41:23] <ringo32> kaelthas, i know a repo
[23:41:29] <ringo32> you have google as package
[23:41:36] <ringo32> :)
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[23:42:13] <Esclapion> you can also try google-chrome-beta
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[23:42:49] <ringo32> kaelthas, yaourt --m-arg "--skipchecksums --skippgpcheck" -Syua
[23:42:56] <ringo32> :p
[23:43:02] <ringo32> there is also other way
[23:43:14] <ringo32> Esclapion, :p
[23:43:20] <kaelthas> But what does it mean if it didn't pass the validation?
[23:43:26] <kaelthas> What kind of validation?
[23:43:51] <ringo32> wtf it does not work
[23:43:52] <ringo32> :)
[23:44:07] <ringo32> kaelthas, yaourt --m-arg "--skipchecksums --skippgpcheck" -S google-chrome
[23:44:07] <Esclapion> file are corrupted on the server or the pkgbuild doesn't contain the right validation sums
[23:44:08] <ringo32> should
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[23:45:01] <ringo32> kaelthas, yaourt --m-arg "--skippgpcheck" -Syua
[23:45:06] <ringo32> doing my self moment
[23:45:22] <Esclapion> those sums serve to verify the integrity of the files
[23:45:41] <ringo32> there is also a repo
[23:45:57] <kaelthas> I get the same with google-chrome-beta.
[23:46:40] <ringo32> kaelthas,
[23:46:56] <ringo32> look on the site
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[23:49:26] <ringo32> yaourt --m-arg " " between " " does resemble the makepkg --skippgpcheck as example
[23:49:56] <ringo32> so yaourt --m-arg "--skippgpcheck" , does skip the pgp check
[23:50:48] <bugzbunny> google-chrome installs fine here
[23:51:08] <ringo32> i dont know how to fix pgp i did always skip
[23:51:09] <ringo32> lol
[23:51:10] <bugzbunny> It's a bit odd you would be running into problems.. hmmm
[23:51:12] <ringo32> cheating
[23:51:29] <ringo32> but i use google-chrome from repo
[23:51:43] <bugzbunny> ringo32: From AUR?
[23:52:01] <ringo32> no
[23:52:25] <bugzbunny> Mine is from AUR and IIRC... It got updated a few days ago
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[23:53:33] <linux_dream> iiiimmmm going to testing yaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy
[23:54:26] <Esclapion> same error here
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[23:55:14] <Esclapion> ==> ERROR: One or more files did not pass the validity check!
[23:55:26] <Esclapion> ringo32, dangerous, no ?
[23:55:37] <ringo32> you tried yaourt --m-arg "--skippgpcheck"
[23:55:39] <ringo32> ?
[23:56:01] <linux_dream> just manually add the key into trusted keys
[23:56:04] <ringo32> there is also a place to config in yaourt
[23:56:10] <ringo32> im lazy :p
[23:56:40] <bugzbunny> I think what might be happening, md5sum checksum is failing
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[23:56:53] <bugzbunny> linux_dream: AUR packages are not signed
[23:57:00] <ringo32> is also signed
[23:57:18] <bugzbunny> ringo32: The actual package that get's download remoately
[23:57:23] <bugzbunny> IE, the actual source
[23:57:28] <bugzbunny> That doesn't get signed
[23:57:57] <ringo32> yaourt got pgp protected
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[23:58:33] <Esclapion> yaourt -S google-chrome -m-arg "--skippgpcheck"
[23:58:33] <Esclapion> pacman : option invalide -- '-'
[23:59:05] <bugzbunny> I am not saying it doesn't, let me inspect the google-chrome AUR
[23:59:09] <ringo32> yaourt --m-arg "--skippgpcheck" -S google-chrome
[23:59:39] <Esclapion> my bad : 2 - before m-arg