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[00:01:03] <bennypr0fane> alright, it booted me straight to tty1
[00:01:28] <bennypr0fane> got a command line. I'm in here from my other pc
[00:01:32] <bennypr0fane> now what?
[00:02:02] <mtn> bennypr0fane: ok, so it does boot ok, probably a video driver problem. what does inxi -Gx tell you?
[00:02:48] <mike-zal> I would go and try: sudo mhwd -a pci nonfree 0300
[00:02:56] <mike-zal> it wouldn't hurt
[00:03:09] <mtn> mike-zal: it wouldn't hurt to gather a little info first, either
[00:03:13] <mike-zal> and might fix the problem if the wrong gpu driver is used
[00:03:24] <mtn> mike-zal: though guessing is fun, I guess
[00:03:33] <bennypr0fane> ugh, it's got the wrnog keyboard layout loaded. this *is* gonna be a pita after all. my keyboard is qwertz
[00:03:38] <mike-zal> of coruse it won't :P. I'm just getting to bed so I wanted to get it out of my chest ;P
[00:04:24] <bennypr0fane> mike-zal, I've never had to use non-free driver on this box before
[00:04:38] <bennypr0fane> It would be a surprise
[00:04:41] <mike-zal> then go: sudo mhwd -a pci free 0300
[00:04:52] <mtn> bennypr0fane: what does inxi -Gx tell you?
[00:05:20] <mike-zal> either way, if gpu driver is the issue, one of those commands should fix it. if not. you just switch to free or none free gpu.
[00:06:05] <mike-zal> of course the reason may be differnt but usually it's gpu..
[00:06:45] <bennypr0fane> mtn: card: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics controller Display Server: X.Org 1.17.4 driver: intel
[00:07:00] <mtn> bennypr0fane: hmm. ok. which desktop are you running?
[00:07:07] <bennypr0fane> KDE
[00:07:11] <mike-zal> so you don't have any nvidia or radeon card?
[00:07:15] <bennypr0fane> nope
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[00:07:25] <mtn> bennypr0fane: in the terminal: sudo systemctl  start sddm
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[00:08:19] <bennypr0fane> sddm?
[00:08:28] <mike-zal> yeap
[00:08:29] <mtn> sddm
[00:08:44] <mike-zal> that's plasma login manager (display manager)
[00:08:52] <bennypr0fane> "Failed to connect to bus: file or directory not found"
[00:08:53] <mtn> no, it is not. it is the dm
[00:09:09] <mike-zal> if gpu is correct then DM is not starting from some reason
[00:09:42] <mtn> bennypr0fane: hmm.  I think you removed something you should not have. not sure what, though
[00:10:05] <mike-zal> that's always tough... :(
[00:10:14] <mtn> bennypr0fane: try reinstalling sddm
[00:10:40] <mtn> bennypr0fane: did you edit the sddm files by any chance?
[00:11:24] <bennypr0fane> mtn, not that I know of
[00:11:33] <ringo32> oh running kde...
[00:11:41] <ringo32> didnt know
[00:11:47] <mike-zal> if that's dm problem and sddm won't start, you can try to install other dm, like light dm and enable/start it
[00:11:54] <thenewone1> bennypr0fane, did you find your solution
[00:12:06] <mike-zal> he's working on it
[00:12:09] <ringo32> sudo mhwd-gpu --check ?
[00:12:20] <thenewone1> ok ringo32 here
[00:12:28] <mtn> ringo32: it is not the driver
[00:12:43] <ringo32> but how come sddm fails?
[00:12:49] <mike-zal> thenewone1: gpu driver seeems to be fine, dm is not starting: "Failed to connect to bus: file or directory not found"
[00:12:49] <mtn> ringo32: [15:06] <bennypr0fane> mtn: card: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics controller Display Server: X.Org 1.17.4 driver: intel
[00:12:59] <ringo32> i awfull a lot :p
[00:13:10] <bennypr0fane> sorry I'm not famíliar with pacman yet, coming from debian. How i reinstall sddm?
[00:13:34] <ringo32> mhwd-gpu --check just checks the symlinking of mhwd
[00:13:36] <mtn> bennypr0fane: sudo pacman -S sddm
[00:14:22] <mtn> bennypr0fane: strange problem, my kde is running fine
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[00:15:13] <mike-zal> mine too. something went broken in system (alone or with.. help ;P)
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[00:15:56] <bennypr0fane> ringo32: Default lib32 support: true, xorg config symlink valid, libGl and libglx symlinks valid
[00:16:14] <tmsbrdrs> I've been trying to get genymotion running but haven't been able to get any headway. When running from terminal, I recieve genymotion: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: FcWeightFromOpenType
[00:16:26] <ringo32> systemctl --failed    also what is failing
[00:17:10] <bennypr0fane> after reinstalling sddm, should I just reboot, or try to startx?
[00:17:28] <ringo32> systemctl status sddm
[00:17:43] <mtn> good idea
[00:18:00] <mtn> bennypr0fane: then try: sudo systemctl  start sddm
[00:18:06] <mike-zal> didn't know I can get status on it. learning new every day :)
[00:18:15] <bennypr0fane> oops, couldn't reinstall. network seems to be down. could not resolve any hosts :-(
[00:18:24] <mtn> uh oh
[00:18:29] <ringo32> you can reinstall from cache
[00:18:37] <bennypr0fane> ringo32, how?
[00:18:39] <mike-zal> why it would be so easy... :P
[00:18:50] <mike-zal> yeah, how?
[00:18:50] <ringo32> hehh /var/cache/pacman/pkg
[00:18:59] <ringo32> ls sddm*
[00:19:08] <ringo32> look for that package if its there
[00:19:22] <ringo32> sudo pacman -U (that_package°
[00:19:22] <mike-zal> so first cd there?
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[00:19:32] <ringo32> just go to the cache
[00:19:34] <mike-zal> I'm just learning. my system is fine
[00:19:42] <ringo32> first look for the saved cache
[00:19:52] <ringo32> you can sometimes downgrade from there
[00:20:03] <ringo32> if you have it then you dont need the network
[00:20:25] <ringo32> pacman -Qs sddm   should also see if sddm is installed
[00:21:04] <bennypr0fane> do nyou guys have a qwerty keyboard? which key carries the *
[00:21:05] <bennypr0fane> ?
[00:21:17] <ringo32> i have azerty :)
[00:21:39] <ringo32> i got only one * its on my keypad :p
[00:22:03] <bennypr0fane> ringo32, great, taht works
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[00:22:19] <bennypr0fane> got sddm in cache
[00:22:28] <mike-zal> ok, so to resume: 1. cd to /var/cache/pacman/pkg 2. ls to see if there is sddm 3. if there is: sudo pacman -S sdd (or the full name of the package)?
[00:22:47] <ringo32> sysudo pacman -U (package)
[00:22:51] <mike-zal> ups, pacman -U
[00:22:52] <ringo32> sudo*
[00:23:08] <mike-zal> yeah, typed S by force of habit.. ;P
[00:23:12] <bennypr0fane> it's installed too
[00:23:38] <mike-zal> just reinstall it then
[00:23:44] <ringo32> systemctl status displaymanager
[00:23:58] <ringo32> should say installed whatever now?
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[00:24:54] <bennypr0fane> ugh. it couldn't find package sddm
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[00:25:30] <mike-zal> ringo32: my system is fine but "systemctl status displaymanager" gave me weird output... some fails, dumps, no files or directory, inactive... ;P
[00:26:38] <ringo32> systemctl status sddm
[00:26:47] <bennypr0fane> ringo32, systemctl status displaymanager gives me -failed to connect to bus: file or directory not found
[00:26:49] <mike-zal> if sddm was installed from live media and was never updated then maybe it won't be in cache
[00:27:07] <ringo32> bah typos
[00:27:10] <mike-zal> lol, the same as for me, although sddm works fine for me
[00:27:30] <mike-zal> ah, that explains
[00:27:41] <ringo32> systemctl display-manager
[00:27:45] <ringo32> systemctl status display-manager
[00:27:58] <bennypr0fane> ringo32, same!
[00:28:09] <mike-zal> not the same!
[00:28:31] <ringo32> sudo systemctl enable sddm
[00:28:33] <mike-zal> have huge otput
[00:28:37] <ringo32> sudo systemctl start sddm
[00:29:14] <bennypr0fane> I guess I am gonna reinstall after all... :-P
[00:29:40] <mike-zal> why? we're getting at something
[00:29:45] <ringo32> does it give faults ? with that command?
[00:29:58] <bennypr0fane> enable works, start gives same output as above "failed..."
[00:29:59] <mike-zal> you don't have correct sddm working it seems
[00:30:05] <ringo32> hehmm...
[00:30:11] <ringo32> i gues its sddm-plymouth
[00:30:24] <ringo32> this case... forgoth
[00:30:24] <mike-zal> then maybe you need to restore internet and intall it
[00:31:03] <bennypr0fane> what about the sddm-kcm?
[00:31:12] <ringo32> sudo mhwd-gpu --setgl mesa
[00:31:17] <ringo32> would also no wrong
[00:31:44] <ringo32> but..ssddm-kcm is a gui for sddm
[00:31:49] <ringo32> to change some themes
[00:32:11] <mike-zal> anyway, this "systemctl status display-manager" gave me very readable output about my sddm so it works nicely. if it doesn't work for you, then sddm is screwed somehow. it also looks it can't be enabled or started. so sddm reinstall may help.
[00:32:22] <bennypr0fane> ringo32, ah, I thought that was something more powerful
[00:32:44] <bennypr0fane> mike-zal, the reinstall isnÄ't working
[00:32:49] <ringo32> kcm is setting manager for kde type of stuf...
[00:32:53] <mike-zal> because of no internet
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[00:33:01] <bennypr0fane> ringo32, --setgl mesa seems to have worked
[00:33:15] <bennypr0fane> mike-zal, any hints how I can get it working?
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[00:33:43] <ringo32> if from cache you have surely sddm, but there is also a plymouth
[00:33:56] <ringo32> so enable sddm with plymouth is mostly sddm-plymouth
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[00:34:07] <ringo32> but direct sddm should also work with plymouth
[00:34:09] <mike-zal> it's weird that it's not working either. if it won't work after reboot then it's another issue to deal with... maybe network manager issue or wifi card problem?
[00:34:23] <ringo32> sudo systemctl disable sddm-plymouth
[00:34:28] <bennypr0fane> mike-zal, it's wired
[00:34:29] <ringo32> sudo systemctl enable sddm
[00:35:01] <mike-zal> anyway, gotta go. bennypr0fane ringo32 is very knowleagable so troubleshooting with him should bring you some solution if you are patient.
[00:35:17] <ringo32> depend..................
[00:35:28] <bennypr0fane> mike-zal, thanks for your time
[00:35:46] <mike-zal> bye to all
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[00:36:09] <bennypr0fane> ringo32, disable didn't work "failed..."
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[00:37:01] <ringo32> how big is that disk ?
[00:37:14] <bennypr0fane> 1TB
[00:37:24] <ringo32> manjaro partition? root?
[00:37:28] <bennypr0fane> but the system partition is only 54GB
[00:37:53] <ringo32> 54 gb is big enough
[00:37:55] <ringo32> :)
[00:38:37] <bennypr0fane> disable sddm worked, disable sddm-plymouth did not
[00:39:07] <ringo32> enable again ? sddm ?
[00:39:17] <bennypr0fane> yes, works
[00:39:39] <bennypr0fane> "symlink created"
[00:40:04] <bennypr0fane> any clue how I might get that internet connection up?
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[00:41:38] <ringo32> you can try to boot up or chack the status for results..
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[00:43:19] <bennypr0fane> when I did ls *sddm in /var/cache/pacman/pkg, it listed ssdm-kcm-5.6.5-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz. Is that the needed package, or something else?
[00:43:34] <bennypr0fane> check which status?
[00:44:01] <ringo32> systemctl status display-manager
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[00:44:08] <ringo32> you should see some green
[00:44:28] <ringo32> sddm-kcm is a gui package is not sddm
[00:44:38] <ringo32> pacman -Qs sddm
[00:44:46] <ringo32> you list all local files of sddm
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[00:45:15] <bennypr0fane> systemctl status display-manager isn't working
[00:46:51] <bennypr0fane> pacman -Qs sddm lists 4 items: sddm, sddm-andromeda-theme, sddm-kcm, sddm-maia-theme.
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[00:48:50] <bennypr0fane> I'll try rebooting and see if internet works then.
[00:51:19] <bennypr0fane> nah, no dice/internet
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[00:51:52] <bennypr0fane> I saw in the boot messages that it started plymouth
[00:52:03] <bennypr0fane> but then again, I knew that before
[00:52:33] <ringo32> it stopped
[00:54:37] <ringo32> ?
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[00:57:50] <bennypr0fane> ringo32, hm?
[00:58:18] <MialmaDib> Hello everyone! I just installed Manjaro Budgie yesterday and my app switcher isn't showing up. The keyboard shortcut works as intended, tho.
[00:58:35] <MialmaDib> Anyone has an idea on this?
[00:59:20] <bennypr0fane> Unless someone can help me fix the internet connection, I guess I'm left with reinstalling...
[01:00:40] <ringo32> im drained
[01:00:50] <bennypr0fane> me too
[01:01:39] <ringo32> did it happend after update?
[01:02:03] <bennypr0fane> possible. I don't remember
[01:02:16] <ringo32> or removal,?
[01:03:17] <bennypr0fane> I probably won't be able to retrace my steps unless I get into that GUI. or maybe pacman keeps a log of what it did?
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[01:03:57] <bennypr0fane> if installations/removals were performed with Octopi, that's also pacman behind the scenes, yes?
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[01:09:11] <ringo32> yes
[01:09:19] <ringo32> octopi is a frontend
[01:09:37] <ringo32> pacman.lolg can see what happends
[01:10:02] <ringo32> but normal octopi show a dialog if you remove some depency
[01:12:18] <bennypr0fane> I'll have to call it quits for tonight. Maybe I have a flashback at night that shows what the hell I did to my poor Manjaro
[01:12:30] <ringo32> :/
[01:13:48] <bennypr0fane> Thnaks a lot for your help. Should I try posting this in the forums?
[01:15:16] <bennypr0fane> Anyways, will be back when I find a solution. Good night all! Gotta go!
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[01:27:10] <MialmaDib> Hello, anybody can lend me a hand with an issue I'm having with Manjaro?
[01:29:54] <day|flip> what kinda issue?
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[01:31:06] <danis> Hello, When was the last manjaro update? is because I have installed manjaro 16.06 on June 24, but I have never received any updates. I have alredy run "  sudo pacman-mirrors -g & sudo pacman -Syyu" in the terminal, but It always says me "there is nothing to do"
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[01:31:18] <MialmaDib> Well, I made a Manjaro Budgie fresh install just yesterday and my app switcher isn't showing up. The keyboard shortcut works as intended, tho.
[01:32:51] <day|flip> like alt tabe?
[01:32:56] <day|flip> tab**
[01:32:59] <MialmaDib> Yes
[01:34:03] <day|flip> look in setting see if you see something about or look like box on the 4 corner of the screen
[01:34:27] <day|flip> you may have to set it up. I have not used budgie in some time
[01:34:37] <day|flip> Nor will i be able to test it
[01:36:02] <MialmaDib> You mean Settings > Keyboard?
[01:37:02] <danis> can anybody help me, please?
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[01:39:15] <day|flip> MialmaDib,    I guessing that your talking about hot corners
[01:41:02] <day|flip> danis, I can try
[01:41:05] <MialmaDib> Oh, no, no. I mean the app switcher, ALT + TAB, like on Windows.
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[01:43:23] <day|flip> ever desktop have support for alt tab. and a lot of floating window manager support it to.
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[01:44:41] <danis> Hello, When was the last manjaro update? is because I have installed manjaro 16.06 on June 24, but I have never received any updates. I have alredy run "  sudo pacman-mirrors -g & sudo pacman -Syyu" in the terminal, but It always says me "there is nothing to do"
[01:45:12] <day|flip> the last stable update was on 6/25/2016
[01:45:12] <MialmaDib> Maybe I don't have a window manager installed?
[01:45:15] <danis> Excuse my bad English, pleease
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[01:46:14] <day|flip> danis, here were manjaro let people know when there was a update. for stable repo it was in [Stable Update] 2016-06-25
[01:46:25] <day|flip> danis, https://forum.manjaro.org/c/announcements
[01:46:26] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/7bBMzV] Latest Announcements topics - Manjaro
[01:47:21] <day|flip> MialmaDib, In a way Budgie is a window manjaro. since it used gnome shell as a back end. just made lighter then gnome
[01:47:49] <day|flip> MialmaDib, so alt+tab is not working for you?
[01:48:45] <MialmaDib> It switches between apps, but it isn't showing up (Can't select the app I want to switch to)
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[01:49:14] <day|flip> alt+tab hold alt?
[01:50:06] <tmsbrdrs> yes
[01:50:26] <MialmaDib> nope, same issue
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[01:54:42] <day|flip> MialmaDib, I find something. It seem it been remove by mutter, witch is gnome wm
[01:54:44] <danis> day|flip, Thank you for your reply. I would want know another thing. How long does manjaro to launch new stable updates? I am a new manjaro user as you can see. XD
[01:55:02] <day|flip> give me one sec
[01:55:50] <day|flip> MialmaDib,  Missing tabpopup when using Alt-Tab switcher. It has been removed from mutter. you can find more about it here https://github.com/solus-project/budgie-desktop/issues/261
[01:55:52] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/UAPzbA] Missing features for compatibility with GNOME · Issue #261 · solus-project/budgie-desktop · GitHub
[01:56:19] <day|flip> danis, there a big reason why they been holding back
[01:57:01] <day|flip> danis, kde and lxqt app will not work right with gtk theme anymore by default. since the update is going have qt5.7
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[01:58:40] <day|flip> danis, there a weird work around. and they been trying to find a easier way to deal with it. qt5.8 is going fix this issue that qt5.7. were there was no issue in 5.6 and older
[02:00:24] <MialmaDib> Thanks for the heads-up, day|flip
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[02:00:34] <H-H-H> yeah thanks
[02:00:44] <MialmaDib> Guess the best bet is to install another DE, right?
[02:00:59] <day|flip> MialmaDib, maybe
[02:01:34] <day|flip> H-H-H, you been wondering why they been holding back too?
[02:02:26] <H-H-H> not only that but i also meant ty for the info regarding the QT upgrade
[02:02:32] <danis> Thank you a lot day|flip for your help. Have a nice day.
[02:02:44] <day|flip> you to danis, take care and good luck
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[02:03:17] <day|flip> H-H-H, ya i been using testing repo for some time
[02:03:34] <H-H-H> hey dodgejcr i finally got my BBW up and running again so if you need a tester for the arm manjaro version just hola lol
[02:03:51] <day|flip> So i been getting update and used the weird work around to fix the look so that way gtk theme work with qt's ones
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[02:04:17] <H-H-H> all my dev work regarding qt is on 5.6 lol so will have to look at 5.7 and 5.8
[02:04:52] <MialmaDib> Well, thanks for the help, day|flip. Have a nice day, mate!
[02:05:09] <day|flip> take care MialmaDib :)
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[02:06:37] <day|flip> MialmaDib, I know solus-project is a distro. but they are the ones that made the Budgie Desktop
[02:07:01] <dodgejcr> H-H-H: im passing it on to another person in the next few months but Ill keep it mind :D
[02:07:41] <day|flip> don't look at me. I'm not a test subject ^.~
[02:08:18] <dodgejcr> lol
[02:08:28] <dodgejcr> I just dont have time to keep it going anymore
[02:08:36] <dodgejcr> too many medical/school/family stuffs going on
[02:08:52] <day|flip> sound like a big family
[02:09:04] <MialmaDib> day|flip, I'll check 'em out, but I'll probably keep with Manjaro, just another DE :P
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[02:09:21] <dodgejcr> day|flip: just wife + 3 kids
[02:09:45] <day|flip> still big. I was a only child
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[02:09:52] <dodgejcr> but I work full time, go to school full time, and getting through cancer so time is non existant
[02:10:17] <day|flip> and your able to make a badass awesome theme
[02:10:52] <dodgejcr> my awesome theme?
[02:11:19] <dodgejcr> ive go so many but that didnt take time lol
[02:11:21] <day|flip> MialmaDib, From what I last heard. there going have a rolling verison. they are limited to gtk stuff. very little qt apps. at less the last time I used theme
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[02:12:17] <day|flip> dodgejcr, you copycat ;)
[02:12:26] <day|flip> killer ^.^
[02:12:30] <day|flip> you
[02:12:42] <dodgejcr> lol I have a few I did from scratch somewhere around here
[02:12:49] <dodgejcr> but they arent as pretty
[02:13:16] <day|flip> and that why I get lazy as hell. go with copycat-killer
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[02:14:30] <H-H-H> anytime dodgejcr :)
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[02:17:20] <dodgejcr> yeah, takes too long to build up a good awesome shell. Much easier to use one and modify the crap out of it
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[02:39:06] <ShadowFlames> hello!
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[04:06:20] <manjaro-kde5_> may i have some help please
[04:07:40] <manjaro-kde5_> trying to share folders between a win7 computer and one with manjaro
[04:09:44] <manjaro-kde5_> manjro computer also dual boots win7. when both computers are running win7 sharing works great. i turned off password sharing and made shared folders available to 'everyone' works great
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[04:12:15] <manjaro-kde5_> when one is running manjaro and the other win7, i had to enter my username and password setup for samba to view what im sharing out on this computer. the windows 7 computer can see the folders but i get a you do not have permisson error.
[04:13:41] <manjaro-kde5_> on the manjaro computer i can see both machines in network/samba/workgroup. but when trying to view folders on the windows 7 machine it just sits there
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[04:21:09] <manjaro-kde5_> no help huh
[04:26:37] <manjaro-kde5_> i have tried instructions for manjaro share folder via file manager
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[04:28:16] * [[[archtard]]] smacks dat all up on da floor
[04:28:56] <manjaro-kde5_> i need help
[04:30:49] <manjaro-kde5_> manjaro goes down in history as yet another distro crap just doesnt work
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[05:26:57] <TaZeR> thats not true its in history as the best linux distribution to ever grace the 23 colonies of earth planets
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[05:32:20] <day|flip> TaZeR, the guy left out frustration.
[05:32:34] <TaZeR> oh no
[05:33:55] <TaZeR> he waited all of 15 minutes...
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[05:52:13] * [[[archtard]]] thinks we should have services for our fallen brother Handy
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[05:59:50] * day|flip is handy ever in the irc?
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[06:06:31] <Domaldel> Howdy folks.
[06:06:39] <Domaldel> Anyone on?
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[06:06:57] <somerf> hello guys anyone around?
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[06:07:16] <Domaldel> Well, I am...
[06:07:23] <Domaldel> Just logged in for the first time in a long while.
[06:07:23] <somerf> haha great
[06:07:38] <somerf> I have a simple question
[06:07:47] <Domaldel> Gotta warn you though, I'm no Arch wiz
[06:08:04] <somerf> is it possible to install a package after the installer is complete from the live usb?
[06:08:10] <somerf> no worries
[06:08:40] * Domaldel shrugs.
[06:08:41] <Domaldel> No idea.
[06:09:01] <Domaldel> Any reason why you can't just boot in properly and install them that way?
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[06:09:25] <somerf> my laptop has a broadcom wireless why requires a specific package to be installed, works during the installer but is missing once i boot so  i would like to install it once the installation is complete
[06:09:28] <Domaldel> Honestly I'd be surpriced if it's not possible.
[06:09:38] <Domaldel> Hum.
[06:09:41] <somerf> yeah i am sure there is a way
[06:09:50] <Domaldel> I have a similar problem myself (linux driver for my NIC not working)
[06:09:54] <somerf> *which
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[06:10:06] <Domaldel> My work around is using my phone as an ad-hoc wireless networking card.
[06:10:17] <Domaldel> Using USB internet sharing.
[06:10:19] <somerf> yeah that might be a good idea
[06:10:33] <Domaldel> That's how I'm connected right now actually.
[06:10:40] <Domaldel> Anyway, that's part of why I'm her myself.
[06:10:41] <somerf> or just find a place where i can use ethernet shortly... haha
[06:10:48] <Domaldel> *nods*
[06:10:54] <Domaldel> At least yours work.
[06:10:55] <[[[archtard]]]> mount your /home and download the pkgbuild and source there then when you reboot install the bcm from there
[06:11:21] <Domaldel> I assume that's aimed at somerf.
[06:11:24] <somerf> ?
[06:11:30] <somerf> awesome
[06:12:24] <somerf> so i need to mount home, download the package there (save it basically) and when i first boot simply pacman -S i guess
[06:12:34] <Domaldel> Anyway, basically what he's suggesting is that instead of installing and downloading the package in one you can download the package while in live and then install it from your home folder when you're running normally.
[06:13:03] <Domaldel> That's pretty much what I read from that.
[06:13:12] <somerf> sounds like a good plan, i was not sure whether or not i could save files to the home folder from the live usb
[06:13:20] <Domaldel> Although given that it's six in the morning and I haven't slept I might be totally off...
[06:13:30] <somerf> haha no worries
[06:13:33] <Domaldel> That I know that you can.
[06:13:41] <somerf> thank you both very much for your help
[06:13:46] <somerf> appreciated
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[06:17:16] <Domaldel> Ugh, that wasn't pretty...
[06:18:13] <Domaldel> Anyway, I was more concerned about how to get pacman to use the local file.
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[06:18:32] <ArifNoumanKhan> hello every one
[06:18:46] <Domaldel> Howdy =)
[06:18:57] <ArifNoumanKhan> sup
[06:19:19] <ArifNoumanKhan> where can i find the virtuabox folder installed from yaourt ?
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[06:22:33] * Domaldel shrugs.
[06:22:35] <manjaroCinnamon1> hola ?
[06:23:04] <Domaldel> Howdy =)
[06:23:24] <Domaldel> It's still a bit early here in Europe (and in my own case I haven't had any sleep yet so brain is kind of shut down)
[06:23:45] <Domaldel> You'll probably get more answers later when people start waking up. =)
[06:24:42] <manjaroCinnamon1> ok. thanks
[06:25:21] <Domaldel> Hum, any of you folks got any experience with intel NIC drivers compiled for AMD CPUs?
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[06:28:15] * Domaldel shrugs.
[06:28:21] <Domaldel> Well, I'll see you all later.
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[06:44:12] <Domaldel> Howdy, I managed to abort a folder move from my phone to my computer (and apparently losing all my vacation pictures in the process)
[06:44:26] <Domaldel> The phone is a Samsung S6
[06:44:32] <Domaldel> Any suggestions?
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[07:10:24] <mCOLe-Usr> is there a chat room for manjaro mcole i am having some issues and cant find answers on the forum
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[07:39:00] <manjaro-kde5_> How would i reformat a SD card that is stuck in read only mode and wont let me reset it
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[07:43:41] <Batch> manjaro-kde5_ does it have a slot?
[07:43:57] <Batch> i mean a lock switch
[07:44:03] <Batch> on the card itself
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[07:56:49] <manjaro-kde5_> yea it does but it keeps getting pushed back
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[10:46:50] <bolvary> Hi, I have messed up my lxde menu. How can I set it back to default?
[10:47:20] <ringo32> how did you messed up that menu ..
[10:47:36] <ringo32> if i may ask :)
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[10:51:50] <bolvary> I do no longer have the System Tools section, and all those applications are listed under Settings.
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[11:22:43] <ringo32> bolvary,  mayby i can get idea to test?
[11:26:02] <bolvary> ringo32: ?
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[11:30:10] <ringo32> i think all menu is located for lxde in .local
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[11:30:20] <ringo32> in the hidden
[11:31:04] <ringo32> is like https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=527921#p527921
[11:31:05] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/15s9TF] LXDE menu gone / Applications & Desktop Environments / Arch Linux Forums
[11:31:25] <ringo32> instead of deleting you can rename move to another map for backup with mv
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[11:39:58] <bolvary> thanks, i will try
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[12:19:32] <mike-zal-work> is someone familiar with seting up network printer?
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[12:44:29] <othniel> hey
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[13:00:43] <othniel> using manjaro at work got eclipse from aur running the HANA studio happy man
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[13:10:58] <shambles07> happy pappy
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[13:14:15] <TaZeR> nothing better than getting your OS running good shit man!
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[13:18:03] <othniel> nothing better now the dbadmin asking me howcome kde so fast haha........ lol ....... he never talks to me btw
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[13:21:32] <peetaur2> my computer isn't slow enough to know... is plasma5 now faster than the old bloated stuff?
[13:22:27] <othniel> its running sweet although i prefer xfce
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[13:25:51] <othniel> some ubuntu lover her bashing my head against a wall saying Manjaro hates security coz of the certificates issue on the old forums
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[13:42:08] <peetaur2> othniel: shame on manjaro's devs for doing that... and worse to tell people to set their clocks back... but it's still a great distro. At least the mistakes they made for the distro didn't make the actually installed OS broken like other distros :P
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[14:14:31] <shamb07> maaan
[14:14:37] <shamb07> it keeps saying that i can't identify as myself
[14:14:43] <shamb07> IRC WHAT R U DOING TO ME
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[14:15:20] <shamb07> oh sweet
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[14:16:10] <shambles07> ok... made it back
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[14:19:10] <mike-zal-work> lol, good you changed the nick shambles07. before shamb0 sounds in my language as: szambo, which means a whole in a ground filled with shit...
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[14:26:46] <mnords> www.manjaro.org/blog - File not found
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[14:32:37] <mike-zal-work> mnords: it's not the correct site yet
[14:32:45] <mike-zal-work> it's in production.
[14:32:57] <mike-zal-work> the official working site has a bit different link
[14:33:26] <mnords> then why put it in the channel topic?
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[14:35:33] <mike-zal-work> probably someone made mistake. manjaro site is curently rewritten and there are confusing links
[14:35:46] <mnords> okay thx
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[14:36:49] <mike-zal-work> saw some manjaro blog yesterday but now I can't find it
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[14:37:19] <mike-zal-work> but the guy was describing upcoming changes on manjaro site, so everything is moving
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[14:47:38] <mr_jason> hi all
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[14:49:12] <shamb> hello!
[14:49:53] <mr_jason> hi guys
[14:50:12] <mr_jason> recently installed manjaro with i3 interface
[14:50:17] <mr_jason> feel good
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[14:54:07] <shamb> nice!
[14:54:17] <shamb> don't believe i've tried i3 yet
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[14:55:04] <shamb> i tried JWM and BWSPM (i know i messed the last one up) and found them interesting, but they weren't for me
[14:55:21] <shamb> BSPWN maybe? lol
[14:56:02] <clements> anyone know a workaround for unity3d and nvidia bug that prevents game from launching?
[14:56:13] <shamb> steam?
[14:56:18] <clements> yes
[14:56:24] <shamb> hmm
[14:56:33] * shamb is not sure
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[14:57:34] * shamb wishes the best
[14:57:39] <clements> wonder if i moved to testing if it would work
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[14:57:55] <shamb> test it out!
[14:58:22] <clements> do i make that change in pacman.conf cant remember
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[14:59:31] <clements> nm checked the wiki.. :)
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[15:30:07] <Esclapion> lol : http://bit.ly/2a7BEmT
[15:30:09] -FatalException- [No short url] Linux Ubuntu
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[15:37:31] <mike-zal-work> 12 euro + shipment for lazy ones... ;P
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[15:56:17] <carlos> hello all
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[15:56:58] <carlos> i just installed solus os
[15:57:15] <Esclapion> i too, but in vbox
[15:57:36] <carlos> but i lost the manjaro grub
[15:57:45] <Esclapion> uefi ?
[15:57:50] <carlos> how can i dual boot?
[15:57:52] <carlos> yes
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[15:58:25] <Esclapion> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Restore_the_GRUB_Bootloader#For_UEFI_Systems
[15:58:26] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/ATfBWu] Restore the GRUB Bootloader - Manjaro Linux
[15:58:42] <carlos> tanks
[15:59:09] <carlos> but this will remove solus?
[15:59:21] <Esclapion> no
[15:59:31] <carlos> ok tanks :)
[15:59:40] <Esclapion> it will build a dual-boot, normally
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[16:06:34] <carlos> hello again
[16:06:45] <carlos> thanks for the tip
[16:07:40] <carlos> i reinstalled grub and now all is working
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[16:24:42] <othniel> solus is great but u will always use manjaro
[16:25:47] <othniel> anyone that uses R for data visualisation
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[17:36:55] <VoidFox> heya
[17:37:06] <VoidFox> anyone got some experience with file recovery?
[17:37:21] <VoidFox> cant even probably mount the sd card lol
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[17:38:16] <VoidFox> seems like /dev/sdc gets reserved for it, but cant find it with lsblk etc
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[17:38:47] <shambles07> have you used Parted Magic?
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[17:39:03] <shambles07> that might help. i've used that for a lot of data recovery
[17:39:36] <shambles07> throw it on a USB and it runs off your RAM. really nice distro for file recovery, fixing other linux builds, and all sorts of other stuff
[17:39:51] <shambles07> https://partedmagic.com/
[17:39:54] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/7N6rf6] PartedMagic - Partitioning, Cloning, Rescue, and Erasing.
[17:39:59] <shambles07> a bit more information there for ya
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[17:41:05] <VoidFox> ya.. but since there is no /dev/sdc it doesnt see the drive
[17:41:50] <shambles07> well that's why i suggested PM
[17:42:11] <shambles07> so you think you might not even have the drivers for the SD reader?
[17:42:27] <VoidFox> not using any sd reader
[17:42:27] <shambles07> is it part of the PC/laptop or external?
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[17:42:32] <shambles07> oh hmm
[17:42:46] <VoidFox> its the sd card.. really messed up somehow
[17:42:57] <shambles07> weird.. other cards work though huh?
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[17:44:30] <shambles07> i have a question myself. my screen has been flickering like CRAZY ever since i accidently fullscreened nestopia
[17:44:44] <shambles07> it worked decent after a reboot but now more issues
[17:46:01] <VoidFox> http://pastebin.com/J3mVFYA6
[17:46:02] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/xAPagS] Jul 19 17:39:06 blackbox kernel: usb 1-1.3: new high-speed USB device number 11  - Pastebin.com
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[17:48:56] <shambles07> so you're getting sdc but no sdc1...
[17:50:46] <shambles07> anything about it in your dmesg output?
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[17:51:22] <shambles07> maybe run this: dmesg | grep input
[17:51:39] <shambles07> or dmesg | grep device
[17:51:54] <shambles07> see if it's finding it, you don't have another SD card to test do ya?
[17:52:20] <shambles07> and i'm guessing sr0/sr1 are disc drives?
[17:52:31] <shambles07> my drive came up with lsblk -l
[17:52:36] <shambles07> as sdd
[17:53:44] <VoidFox> well.. the softlink /dev/sdc gets created when i plug it in... but the system doesnt seem to accept it as a disc drive
[17:53:54] <VoidFox> dmesg is at the top of my paste
[17:53:58] <shambles07> ok
[17:54:41] <shambles07> can you get the ####:#### number to look up so you can see if there's a driver?
[17:54:48] <shambles07> like maybe if someone else had the same issue?
[17:55:14] <VoidFox> ah the last entry is from lsusb.. there the drive is visible
[17:55:30] <shambles07> ok take the ID code and google that
[17:55:56] <shambles07> lsusb gives you the bus, device, and ID that you can use
[17:56:16] <shambles07> and try lsusb -v to get more output
[17:56:28] <VoidFox> 058f:1234
[17:56:35] <VoidFox> shit.. getting russian results xDD
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[17:57:16] <shambles07> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1674236
[17:57:17] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/v4lxU8] [SOLVED] flash drive not mounting or working?
[17:57:23] <shambles07> read the last post in that thread
[17:57:45] <shambles07> a lot of these are fixes for flash drives
[17:58:52] <VoidFox> thx for the tip
[17:59:01] <VoidFox> might get lucky there
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[18:38:25] <Vlado9A> hell o world
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[18:41:28] <nostrora> fb: switching to nouveaufb from EFI VGA when i try to boot livecd and nothing else happend. what i have to do ? (08 version)
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[18:43:57] <LyriCa> hello, anybody here uses btrfs?
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[18:45:46] <jeannie> btrfs: Better Try a Real FileSystem
[18:45:55] <LyriCa> Lol
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[18:46:20] <Kranix> Welp. It would appear that I've broken x.org.
[18:46:39] <Kranix> I didn't expect that xorg.conf backup to be empty...
[18:47:16] <Kranix> How to reconfigure from a TTY?
[18:48:01] <LyriCa> idk man, but try deleting the conf t will regenerate itself at boot
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[18:49:27] <mtn> Kranix: what video card/driver do you use? you may not even need a xorg.conf
[18:49:40] <clements> i used btrfs once.. until i had a power outage
[18:49:46] <Kranix> AMD Radeon with non-free drivers.
[18:49:47] <LyriCa> i use an amd hd7850
[18:49:54] <LyriCa> yeah
[18:50:06] <manjaroDeepin160> Hi people, one question: would it work/be a good idea to install papyros/veltos repositories?
[18:50:20] <LyriCa> clements, im trying btrfs and im liking it, mainly because of the snapshot thing
[18:50:22] <Kranix> I have to spend 5 minutes booting into Windows to get back on here. Live USB can't see my ethernet connection for some reason.
[18:50:30] <mtn> Kranix: there is a command to reinstall them, but I am not sure what it is. perhaps the wiki would help you?
[18:50:43] <jeannie> Merging in repos of another distro never is a good idea
[18:51:35] <Kranix> I'll try looking again. The Arch Wiki page looked pretty unwieldy, though...
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[18:53:38] <mtn> Kranix: I meant the manjaro wiki, for the mhwd command
[18:54:24] <Kranix> Oh. I didn't even think there was a Manjaro wiki. Arch Wiki always shows up first on searches.
[18:55:08] <mtn> Kranix: yes, there is. try: manjaro wiki ;)
[18:55:26] <Kranix> I did find it. I'll try rebooting and running it from TTY now.
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[18:59:30] <Kranix_> Huh. Seems that it solved itself before I even got to the TTY. Weird.
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[19:27:44] <Strit_Laptop> hi all
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[19:30:39] <elliot007> Any JWM user??
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[19:54:49] <nikkynike> hello
[19:54:58] <nikkynike> ringo32: how do i startx lxsession on boot?
[19:55:26] <nikkynike> systemctl status lxsession says no such service?
[19:55:39] <ringo32> it is no service
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[19:56:09] <ringo32> its going by .xinitrc  hidden maps but depend what you wanna start ?
[19:57:00] <ringo32> lxsession is also a sort universal session program i think, you can make several own sessions with it
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[19:59:04] <SubZ3ro> hi guys
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[19:59:33] * ringo32 give me some ice
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[20:00:42] <nikkynike> i think then exec lxsession would suffice in .xinitrc for boot.
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[20:07:42] <SubZ3ro> ringo32, :)
[20:08:09] <ringo32> nikkynike,
[20:08:12] <ringo32> only startx
[20:08:28] <ringo32> exec lxsession   but which session for ...
[20:09:41] <nikkynike> my VPN requires polkit agent to be activated.,on boot
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[20:10:57] <nikkynike> i just run lxsession from the dmenu and it works. i dont know it has different sessions. and also for thunar /pcmanfm downloading a file from firefox i get permission denied or unauthorized due to polkit agent
[20:11:26] <ringo32> lxpolit is intoo lxsession
[20:11:50] <nikkynike> i didnt get you,what should i do
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[20:14:08] <nikkynike> did u try bitmask application its available for downloaded in aur, it uses a VPN called riseup.net, know it?
[20:14:12] <nikkynike> ringo32:
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[20:15:12] <nikkynike> u use VPN? which ringo32
[20:15:32] <nikkynike> if not try bitmask
[20:16:25] <ringo32> i dont use vpn :)
[20:17:41] <nikkynike> why
[20:17:44] <nikkynike> its free
[20:17:55] <ringo32> good Vpn's are not free
[20:17:56] <ringo32> ;:)
[20:18:07] <ringo32> you pay always a price
[20:19:16] <nikkynike> yeah, i want to execute a vpn file and it needs a password too, in uubuntu it starts automatically after seeing their questions,but here i have no idea how to start using sudo , authomatically. i only heard of cron,but no idea
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[20:19:37] <ringo32> gnome-key you need?
[20:19:54] <ringo32> or by an systemd service?
[20:20:14] <nikkynike> that was on ubuntu , not arch i3. yes systemd service
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[20:21:14] <nikkynike> sudo openvpn --config file ; i want to run this command on boot automataically. so scripts wont help either
[20:21:35] <ringo32> manjaro?
[20:21:43] <nikkynike> arch
[20:21:45] <nikkynike> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/10614/arch-linux-startup-application-script
[20:21:45] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/BlzZrp] boot - Arch linux startup application (script) - Raspberry Pi Stack Exchange
[20:22:21] <ringo32> like https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OpenVPN#systemd_service_configuration
[20:22:22] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/4Suegz] OpenVPN - ArchWiki
[20:22:22] <ringo32> ?
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[20:35:37] <nikkynike> hi ringo32
[20:35:41] <nikkynike> pacman --root /mnt --cachedir /mnt/var/cache/pacman/pkg --dbpath /mnt/var/lib/pacman --logfile /mnt/var/log/pacman.log -U *
[20:35:46] <nikkynike> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=146690
[20:35:47] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/Vd2Shp] [SOLVED] offline install / Installation / Arch Linux Forums
[20:36:37] <nikkynike> i have a doubt on this, /mnt there is no installed arch,so how did the cache come there? have you ever tried an offline installation?
[20:36:42] <nikkynike> H-H-H: hi
[20:36:56] <ringo32> nah :)
[20:37:06] <ringo32> well Manjaro is basicly an offline installatien :p
[20:37:53] <nikkynike> yes but i migrated to arch and hate that feature,and the channel animals too dont encourage it when i ask for they say i should stop using arch
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[20:40:52] <ringo32> but why should you stop arch ?
[20:41:10] <ringo32> from our famous mint : If aint broken dont fix
[20:41:32] <ringo32> i also dont use manjaro
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[20:43:51] <Strit_Laptop> nikkynike, I think your best bet is something like: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_from_existing_Linux for offline installs.
[20:43:52] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/OFGwLg] Install from existing Linux - ArchWiki
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[20:45:51] <mike-zal> ringo32: are you familiar with network printer sharing?
[20:46:49] <ringo32> nah but you can always ask :p
[20:46:54] <nikkynike> Strit_Laptop: so i need to download that bootstrap package for that.
[20:46:59] <ringo32> i dont use printer :)
[20:47:16] <ringo32> also my wife printer is foolish i have to enable it everytime
[20:48:03] <Strit_Laptop> nikkynike, yep. The thing is, the Arch iso does only contain the tools for the live session and chrooting. The rest is installed by downloading the packages.
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[20:49:37] <mike-zal> I asked today already and no one responded. I guess that was worktime so can't blame anyone.
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[20:50:07] <ringo32> which printers we talk about
[20:50:11] <ringo32> and its over wifi?
[20:50:33] <ringo32> mayby whe can drill Strit_Laptop  :p
[20:50:53] <Strit_Laptop> sounds dirty, ringo32  :P
[20:50:58] <mike-zal> I started to read arch wiki on it but it's still incomplete and filled with technical words that I don't understand. also it doesn't clear lot of my doubts and questions. also articles on arch wiki are incomplete (it's specifically mentioned that it's not complete)
[20:51:28] <ringo32> its also possible you thinking to dificult
[20:51:30] <mike-zal> yeah, it's on wifi. win10 is a server and linux is a client in this setup
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[20:51:41] <ringo32> Samba
[20:52:45] <ringo32> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS/Printer_sharing#Sharing_via_Samba_2
[20:52:45] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/bI3frC] CUPS/Printer sharing - ArchWiki
[20:52:48] <mike-zal> yeah, wiki says it too, but what does it mean? I saw samba on linux but wiki says I should use windows native samba. what?
[20:52:58] <mike-zal> found better: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS/Printer_sharing#Windows_server_-_Linux_client
[20:52:59] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/seKD3B] CUPS/Printer sharing - ArchWiki
[20:53:10] <mike-zal> but still it's not a nice read
[20:53:16] <ringo32> well, since the printer server is windows 10
[20:53:24] <ringo32> is not 1 on 1
[20:53:40] <mike-zal> uh, whatever that means
[20:53:50] <ringo32> i gues you have to tell cups it uses samba network
[20:54:03] <ringo32> smb://username:password@hostname/printer_name
[20:54:08] <mike-zal> it sais I can just use cups backend. does it mean via browser?
[20:54:10] <ringo32> as example
[20:54:27] <ringo32> or that othe rprinter config, you using kde ?
[20:54:34] <mike-zal> username is a windows user? right?
[20:54:47] <ringo32> name to log in to use the printer
[20:54:55] <mike-zal> hostname - what the fuck is this? a computer name?
[20:55:01] <ringo32> it means it must enter a windows network
[20:55:09] <ringo32> yes
[20:55:12] <ringo32> server name
[20:55:27] <mike-zal> ok, wait
[20:55:57] <mike-zal> do I need user creditials, name and password or windows home network passoword?
[20:56:04] <mike-zal> this is so confusing
[20:56:51] <ringo32> and the printer name
[20:56:52] <ringo32> :p
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[20:57:34] <ringo32> user -> password @ hostname how the server calls , printername probably printer port
[20:57:40] <ringo32> or the brand
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[20:57:43] <ringo32> i dont know
[20:57:50] <mike-zal> ok, I still don't know 1) what is user, a windows user? 2) what is host? 3) printer name is clear, I should use it with % where spaces are, if I get it right
[20:58:16] <nikkynike> can i arch-chroot in ubuntu/mint,etc ? hpw can i verify the chrooting completed sucessfully. even chroot /mnt/ubuntu does work even though chrooting is partial
[20:58:40] <mike-zal> also the problem is, I can get any response here at evenings where I'm at home, so I can't check anything.. :(
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[20:59:25] <nikkynike> ringo32: is your wife beautiful or average?
[20:59:41] <ringo32> nikkynike,  i dont tell you but you may have her for free*
[20:59:42] <ringo32> :)
[20:59:48] <mike-zal> lol, what that has to do with anything?
[21:00:09] <ringo32> nikkynike,  you cant arch-root it
[21:00:28] <ringo32> if you do machinectl and systemd-nspawn it can
[21:01:05] <ringo32> so it does not connect?
[21:01:16] <Strit_Laptop> Ugh, printer sharing is just so annoying. If the printer has wifi why not just conect directly to it, instead of the Win10 box?
[21:01:20] <ringo32> kde has a a printer-config of its own right?
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[21:03:12] <mike-zal> ringo32: also, what about printer driver? should I install it directly as if I was on trying to connect printer directly via usb so the system could use that driver? or should I install it during cups dialog? in such case that's a bit problematic because I have just few text files from old AUR with PKGBUILD but no make. I know how to install it from folder using terminal but during cups dialog? that's insane.
[21:03:26] <mike-zal> anyway, will wait for Strit_Laptop
[21:03:29] <H-H-H> did someone png me?
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[21:03:41] <mike-zal> ah, you are here Strit_Laptop :)
[21:04:08] <ringo32> H-H-H,  nikkynike  liked to ping you :)
[21:04:10] <mike-zal> Strit_Laptop: no, printer doesn't have own wifi. it's old and there were no printers with wifi in those times
[21:04:19] <Strit_Laptop> mike-zal, if it has a PKGBUILD, then you can build the package with "makepkg -s" and install it afterwards with "sudo pacman -U <path/to/package>"
[21:04:25] <mike-zal> so I must use it through windows
[21:04:31] <ringo32> which printer???
[21:04:47] <mike-zal> brother dcp 145C
[21:04:52] <Strit_Laptop> mike-zal, Oh okay. Well, I don't have much experience with printer sharing from Windows to Linux. Sorry.
[21:05:22] <nikkynike> ringo32: i thought arch-chroot runs proc sys dev command inside it. so using arch-chroot i can only chroot from arch to arch or arch to any distro?
[21:05:47] <mike-zal> Strit_Laptop: ok, so I must cd to folder, use "makepkg -s" (small s or big S?) and then during cups dialog I can somehow use command line to install package?
[21:06:00] <Strit_Laptop> small s
[21:06:03] <mike-zal> ok
[21:06:13] <Strit_Laptop> No idea about CUPS and installing it that way.
[21:06:20] <nikkynike> H-H-H: i was thinkking if you could try an offline install and later guide me
[21:06:26] <nikkynike> since u are alented
[21:06:29] <Strit_Laptop> This way, is just for locally installing the package.
[21:07:06] <nikkynike> *talented and know it well. i did create repo called custom but that has no core,extra.db files.
[21:07:39] <mike-zal> that's a complicated part. cups are insanely confusing anc complicated for a average user. why no one came with some nice, simple gui? cups has only access via browser, it's not easy to find what you must type in browser to access it, then you have some gui similar to wiki filled with technical jargon
[21:08:14] <nikkynike> it did create some files custom.db custom.files which was in /root. but pacman -U --root=/mnt --cachedir=/mnt/var/cache/pacman/pkg --dbpath=/root fucks up real bad
[21:08:16] <H-H-H> an offline install of what ?
[21:08:21] <nikkynike> of arch
[21:08:38] <mike-zal> Strit_Laptop: then I install it locally first and maybe I will be able to use it in cups dialog, will try tomorrow
[21:08:55] <Strit_Laptop> mike-zal, yeah, maybe. :)
[21:09:10] <H-H-H> as far as i know you cant as the iso only has the stuff to boot the cd and chroot the est is downloaded as needed
[21:09:24] <H-H-H> rest*
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[21:09:33] <nikkynike> i also pacman.conf custom repo at the end. but that fuck ups. if u could write command by command a detailed process that is not confusing in a text file, and put it on pastebin or something?
[21:09:53] <nikkynike> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=146690
[21:09:53] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/Vd2Shp] [SOLVED] offline install / Installation / Arch Linux Forums
[21:10:07] <ringo32> mike-zal,  in gnome have also a printer congi kde should one also
[21:10:21] <mike-zal> what makes me mad, there are lot of articles but none of it explains it fully or easily or even claims "it SO EASY" but then gives no info and google doesn't help at all. so easy that no one can write or answrer on question how to do it... hrrr...>:(
[21:10:41] <nikkynike> that's confusing first pacstrap -Sy to get database files, then he cache in /mnt/var/cache ? but that partition is empty
[21:10:56] <mike-zal> will be trying to install that printer in manjaro cinnamon.
[21:11:17] <mike-zal> I used that edition to make it look familiar to windows - that's for coworker
[21:11:38] <mike-zal> she didn't knew she was using linux... so she was suprised when I told her
[21:12:24] <mike-zal> don't know what is printer congi
[21:12:26] <ringo32> you have cinnamon?
[21:12:32] <ringo32> config
[21:12:35] <mike-zal> not on my laptop
[21:12:59] <mike-zal> I installed it on usb as a company system ;)
[21:13:16] <mike-zal> she plugs usb pen and starts it
[21:13:22] <ringo32> system-config-printer
[21:13:43] <ringo32> but there is a network part but wifi should be connected first?
[21:13:52] <mike-zal> wifi is working
[21:14:29] <mike-zal> ubuntu alike systems were not kind to broadcom card so I decided to use manjaro. works perfectly so far. and fast.
[21:15:52] <mike-zal> didn't expect it to work so far via usb, but she has a good laptop, usb 3 and I bought a better pen
[21:16:01] <mike-zal> so fast*
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[21:17:19] <ringo32> i mean wifi to make a network contact to the windows host?
[21:18:43] <ringo32> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS#Installation
[21:18:44] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/75Rli6] CUPS - ArchWiki
[21:19:01] <ringo32> also i think the windows10 server should have the samba
[21:19:12] <ringo32> i i think you should enable avahi-daemon
[21:19:22] <ringo32> sudo systemctl enable avahi-daemon
[21:19:42] <ringo32> makes searching easier for unknown printer in network
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[21:27:04] <mike-zal> yeah, that avahi sounds interesting. will pursue it when normal samba won't pan out
[21:27:27] <ringo32> avahi is normal already in
[21:27:31] <ringo32> only enable
[21:27:55] <ringo32> with avahi-daemon on you can use pidgin to talk internally
[21:28:03] <ringo32> without extern network :p
[21:28:33] <mike-zal> I have 2 meters for another workstation so my vocals are better then pidgin ;)
[21:28:50] <mike-zal> well, maybe 4 meters
[21:28:56] <mike-zal> nevermind
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[21:30:09] <ringo32> lol mayby good to send some erotic messages when the kids are around :p
[21:31:40] <shambles07> ringo32: best message to see when you enter the konversation
[21:31:49] <shambles07> :D
[21:32:17] <mike-zal> ;)
[21:32:32] * ringo32 hexchat FTW :)
[21:34:17] <Jeannie>  +1 for hexchat
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[21:35:47] <ringo32> lol
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[21:37:12] <ringo32> i want top op, but i dont want to hop again :p
[21:37:22] <ringo32> My Xfce config to day messed somehow bigtime
[21:37:24] <ringo32> pfffff
[21:37:31] <ringo32> had to remove my xfce4 map
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[21:47:19] <pistaxo> hello all
[21:47:42] <pistaxo> guys my steam client stop working
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[21:48:14] <pistaxo> from the terminal guives this
[21:48:17] <pistaxo> http://pastebin.com/9QdNTTrV
[21:48:18] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/G50lk4] [carlos@carlos-pc ~]$ steam  Running Steam on manjarolinux 16.06.1 64-bit  STEAM - Pastebin.com
[21:48:30] <pistaxo> anny idea? thanks
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[21:49:55] <ringo32> just updated?
[21:50:01] <pistaxo> no
[21:50:13] <pistaxo> that is the srange thing...
[21:50:14] <ringo32> sudo mhwd-gpu --check
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[21:51:06] <pistaxo> http://pastebin.com/DfpHxwtN
[21:51:07] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/CDCLwe] [carlos@carlos-pc ~]$ sudo mhwd-gpu --check  [sudo] password for carlos:   Using - Pastebin.com
[21:52:15] <mike-zal> pistaxo: in the worst case you can install windows steam thorugh wine
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[21:52:45] <pistaxo> i just remembre, i didn't update the system
[21:53:04] <pistaxo> but the steam client auto updated
[21:53:10] <mike-zal> I saw this bug some time ago... exactly the same
[21:53:18] <ringo32> you can try this? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Steam/Troubleshooting#Possible_symptoms
[21:53:19] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/oAaWI7] Steam/Troubleshooting - ArchWiki
[21:53:33] <mike-zal> but didn't have time to follow discussion so I don't know what came out of it
[21:53:44] <ringo32> is mayby some library's of steam mismaching also..
[21:54:18] <mike-zal> pistaxo: manjaro has utility of purging libraries, that might help
[21:54:21] <pistaxo> ok guys
[21:54:29] <mike-zal> I mean, just steam purge libraries
[21:54:29] <pistaxo> thanks a lot!
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[21:54:59] * ringo32 have to go now bBl
[21:55:23] <pistaxo> see you all later thanks
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[22:01:48] <Kranix> join #crawl
[22:01:58] <Kranix> Bah, typo.
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[22:38:27] <ringo32> bacl
[22:38:29] <ringo32> back
[22:38:29] <ringo32> :p
[22:38:38] <ringo32> H-H-H for fun
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[22:44:57] <linux_dream> i am about to install manjaro cli
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[22:45:05] <linux_dream> what should i use to start the install process?
[22:45:13] <Jeannie> sudo setup
[22:45:19] <linux_dream> sudo cli-installer like manjaro is saying or sudo setup like the wiki?
[22:45:21] <linux_dream> hmm
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[22:46:18] <linux_dream> ok it does the same thing, thanks
[22:47:16] <linux_dream> how do i check whether i can use GTP?
[22:48:03] <Jeannie> GPRS Tunneling Protocol?
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[22:49:02] <linux_dream> i mean im asked to make sure my OS can support gtp but it doesn't give any command
[22:49:05] <ringo32> GPRS :lol
[22:49:13] <ringo32> gpt you mean?
[22:49:22] <Jeannie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPRS_Tunnelling_Protocol
[22:49:23] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/q9JxB7] GPRS Tunnelling Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[22:49:31] <linux_dream> GUID Partition Table
[22:49:37] <linux_dream> (GTP)
[22:49:45] <ringo32> GPT
[22:49:49] <ringo32> linux_dream,
[22:50:12] <ringo32> never tried it.... but is just like playing with fire
[22:50:21] <linux_dream> so i choose no?
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[22:50:30] <ringo32> is it a gpt disk?
[22:50:33] <ringo32> dual?
[22:50:35] <ringo32> boot
[22:50:43] <ringo32> win10 on gpt?
[22:50:43] <linux_dream> no, it's a fresh bought new hard disk
[22:50:50] <linux_dream> i want to install manjaro only on it
[22:50:52] <ringo32> how much TB?
[22:50:55] <linux_dream> 0.5
[22:51:00] <linux_dream> 500 GB
[22:51:05] <ringo32> just mbr is good enough ?
[22:51:13] <linux_dream> ok
[22:51:16] <linux_dream> thanks ^^
[22:51:47] <linux_dream> the cli installer tells me:
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[22:52:18] <linux_dream> Setup detected no MS-DOS parition table on /dev/sda. Do you want to create a MS-DOS partition table on /dev/sda?
[22:52:28] <linux_dream> do I need such partition?
[22:52:47] <ringo32> a fresh disk have to partition table to start with
[22:52:54] <ringo32> no partition table
[22:53:02] <linux_dream> ok
[22:53:07] <ringo32> first you need a partition table
[22:53:12] <linux_dream> MS-DOS is ok?
[22:53:38] <ringo32> yes
[22:53:41] <linux_dream> thanks
[22:53:45] <ringo32> MS-DOS = MBR
[22:53:59] <ringo32> Master Boot Record as MSdos Boot Record
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[22:54:26] <linux_dream> ok now I am on parted  command line
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[22:54:46] <linux_dream> I will need to create /     and swap partitions
[22:54:55] <linux_dream> do I need a partition for grub?
[22:55:02] <ringo32> not necessary
[22:55:13] <ringo32> but you make that partition that contains grub bootable
[22:55:18] <ringo32> dont forgeth it
[22:56:10] <linux_dream> where can i see the commands ?
[22:56:13] <linux_dream> or guide
[22:56:17] <linux_dream> coz im lost ^^
[22:56:53] <mtn> linux_dream: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/35676/how-to-choose-a-partition-scheme-for-your-linux-pc/
[22:56:53] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/px4bPg] How to Choose a Partition Scheme for Your Linux PC
[22:57:03] <mtn> linux_dream: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/
[22:57:03] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/llGnfk] (Page title not found or empty. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.)
[22:57:57] <ringo32> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Cfdisk_Basic_Partitioning_Scenarios
[22:57:57] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/W2HShj] Cfdisk Basic Partitioning Scenarios - Manjaro Linux
[22:58:22] <linux_dream> hmm why should i create a separate /home partition
[22:58:29] <linux_dream> im used to have only /    and swap
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[22:58:59] <mtn> linux_dream: you don't need a /home partition
[22:59:07] <linux_dream> ok
[22:59:15] <linux_dream> also i dont see anything related to grub in the 1st link
[22:59:21] <linux_dream> no need for a grub part?
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[22:59:36] <linux_dream> just / and possibly swap?
[22:59:44] <mtn> linux_dream: if you are doing a legacy boot, not uefi, then there is no partition for grub
[22:59:56] <linux_dream> thanks a lot. yes I'm doing legacy
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[23:00:09] <linux_dream> I'm using the commandline, prompt of parted
[23:00:11] <mtn> linux_dream: then grub just gets installed to the mbr of the first drive
[23:00:15] <linux_dream> not sure what to type
[23:00:19] <linux_dream> ok
[23:00:26] <mtn> linux_dream: why not use the gui on the live disk?
[23:00:37] <linux_dream> there was a GUI??
[23:00:46] <linux_dream> i am using the net install
[23:00:48] <mtn> linux_dream: sure, it is called gparted.
[23:01:02] <mtn> linux_dream: why are you doing that when you don't know what you are doing?
[23:01:12] <ringo32> linux_dream,
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[23:01:20] <ringo32> there is also a automatic installer
[23:01:22] <linux_dream> ive been suggested 100 times to use the net version
[23:01:26] <ringo32> it do choose for you
[23:01:28] <linux_dream> so here i am
[23:01:44] <ringo32> only you get 3 partitions i gues
[23:01:45] <linux_dream> yes ringo32 but i dont want a 8 GB swap part
[23:01:52] <mtn> linux_dream: no reason at all to use that unless you are needing it for some reason. use the normal installed and all is easy!
[23:02:02] <mtn> installer
[23:02:13] <ringo32> normal oinstaller is better maintained aswell
[23:02:15] <linux_dream> nah im tired of removing half of manjaro afterwards
[23:02:23] <linux_dream> i prefer the cli
[23:02:31] <mtn> linux_dream: very silly. good luck.
[23:03:55] <ringo32> on cli you have few options... you partition manuarlly or it do auto only you have to do is, place spaces of swap root and mayby home
[23:04:11] <ringo32> but on that is grub on different partition standard
[23:04:21] <ringo32> tjas minor
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[23:04:40] <linux_dream> ringo32, I started the "auto prepare",  and it asks me a /boot partition
[23:04:51] <linux_dream> i dont want it.  there's no way I can bypass it?
[23:04:52] <ringo32> yeah how big.. right?
[23:04:57] <linux_dream> yes
[23:05:06] <linux_dream> i can't put 0. the min is 150
[23:05:42] <ringo32> but is stil easier if manualy is confusing
[23:05:57] <linux_dream> i just need a guide like the arch wiki
[23:06:03] <linux_dream> so i can follow the recipee
[23:06:14] <ringo32> well manuaryy is straight forward...
[23:06:15] <linux_dream> i dont know which commands to type in parted
[23:06:25] <linux_dream> mkpart .... ?
[23:06:29] <ringo32> undno
[23:06:32] <ringo32> no
[23:06:46] <ringo32> uyou get cfdisk
[23:07:07] <ringo32> under have a option bootable   you have to set file system you get a list
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[23:07:20] <ringo32> since you want 2 you must set one /   and one swap
[23:07:32] <linux_dream> i am prompted with parted
[23:07:33] <ringo32> range of 27 28 if i gues
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[23:07:39] <linux_dream> parted program is started automatically
[23:08:01] <ringo32> hummmmmm no cfdisk?
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[23:08:09] <linux_dream> there's no guide so i dont know which commands to type.    right, no cfdisk
[23:08:16] <ringo32> is like https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Cfdisk_Basic_Partitioning_Scenarios
[23:08:16] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/W2HShj] Cfdisk Basic Partitioning Scenarios - Manjaro Linux
[23:09:01] <ringo32> it is not that?
[23:09:06] <linux_dream> no
[23:09:09] <linux_dream> it's parted
[23:09:18] <linux_dream> GNU PArted 3.2
[23:09:39] <ringo32> then is Cli installer suck these days :p
[23:10:01] <ringo32> Artoo did a lot modification on it
[23:10:14] <ringo32> also he prepair the cli installer for a network installing system
[23:10:24] <ringo32> aka arch / antergos
[23:10:37] <linux_dream> if only there wsa a guide to follow I'd do it
[23:10:56] <ringo32> thats manjaro brings something out and dont document it properly
[23:12:12] <linux_dream> even the arch wiki lacks a tutorial with parted in the beginner'S guide
[23:12:14] <linux_dream> I'm toast
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[23:12:23] <linux_dream> how do i install manjaro net now
[23:12:29] <ringo32> its not arch fault
[23:12:41] <ringo32> its manjaro fault since its not documented properly
[23:12:49] <linux_dream> i agree
[23:13:04] <ringo32> i see it replaced cfdisk with parted
[23:13:16] <linux_dream> i need a pro to help me with parted ^^
[23:14:08] <ringo32> dont think much users used the cli lately
[23:14:32] <linux_dream> over 900 downloads this week i tihnk
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[23:14:45] <ringo32> does not tell everything
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[23:15:27] <ringo32> i dont know the latest net-install not used it
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[23:15:50] <ringo32> if the auto build works do the auto prepair i would say
[23:16:05] <linux_dream> nah i dont want to build a system i dont like
[23:16:14] <linux_dream> i dont want that nasty /boot part
[23:16:44] <linux_dream> i will check arch wiki on parted
[23:17:01] <ringo32> cannot imageine how it looks :)
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[23:17:36] <linux_dream> not so bad at all : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNU_Parted
[23:17:37] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/lB4ROx] GNU Parted - ArchWiki
[23:17:40] <linux_dream> i think I can deal with it
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[23:18:03] <ringo32> ok
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[23:18:55] <ringo32> but its in line of manjaro how to document thinks properly....
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[23:20:24] <linux_dream> mpart primary ext4 start end
[23:20:33] <linux_dream> I need to specify "start" and "end"
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[23:21:12] <linux_dream> start can be    1M    for example
[23:22:04] <ringo32> you see also blocks?
[23:22:08] <linux_dream> no
[23:22:14] <linux_dream> i wish I could see the siez of my disk
[23:22:19] <linux_dream> so I could split it into 2
[23:22:21] <NanoSector> lsblk
[23:22:32] <linux_dream> I am inside parted's prompt NanoSector
[23:22:38] <NanoSector> and if you don't want to mess with cli tools, use a live gparted disk
[23:22:39] <linux_dream> can't reach the tty
[23:22:40] <ringo32> i though it have to do with blocks ....
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[23:23:00] <ringo32> you can partition first yeah :p
[23:23:01] <NanoSector> linux_dream: if you are in parted's prompt you were in a tty to being with
[23:23:05] <ringo32> with gparted
[23:23:18] <linux_dream> long ago yes NanoSector , but I started the cli setup
[23:23:27] <NanoSector> oh, right, manjaro
[23:23:28] <linux_dream> it started parted
[23:23:32] <linux_dream> yeah ^^
[23:23:44] <NanoSector> i only do manual arch installs, sorry
[23:23:45] <ringo32> NanoSector,  suck is they made something but not documented in wiki
[23:24:11] <linux_dream> NanoSector, I'm following the arch wiki
[23:24:16] <linux_dream> they give an eample
[23:24:24] <ringo32> i thought what start and end meand like you begin with block 1 end with 24000 as example
[23:24:36] <linux_dream> mkpart primary ext3 1MiB 20GiB
[23:24:46] <ringo32> on the second partition you go further?
[23:24:48] <linux_dream> I think I have 500 GB disk but I'm not 100% sure
[23:24:50] <ringo32> im dreaming :p
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[23:25:01] <linux_dream> I want to allocate exactly 4 GB of swap
[23:25:04] <NanoSector> i always use cgdisk for partitioning in cli
[23:25:07] <linux_dream> and the rest of the disk, all /
[23:25:15] <NanoSector> are you on uefi
[23:25:16] <NanoSector> ?
[23:25:18] <linux_dream> no
[23:25:26] <linux_dream> i dont use windows so no uefi
[23:25:29] <ringo32> manjaro dropped the CFdisk
[23:25:40] <ringo32> for parted
[23:25:42] <NanoSector> linux_dream: uefi doesn't mean you run windows
[23:25:48] <linux_dream> i know
[23:25:49] <bugzbunny> right NanoSector
[23:25:52] <bugzbunny> :)
[23:25:55] <linux_dream> but no need to use uefi
[23:26:11] <NanoSector> that's wasn't my question though; do you use uefi?
[23:26:12] <linux_dream> or am i wrong
[23:26:17] <linux_dream> i dont know
[23:26:24] <NanoSector> you should
[23:26:31] <linux_dream> which command can tell it
[23:26:31] <NanoSector> what is your motherboard
[23:26:53] <linux_dream> i dont know.  my machine used to have uefi but got repaired and last time i installed manjaro xfce iso, it was without uefi
[23:27:03] <linux_dream> so i dont know whether they replaced a piece in my laptop that removed uefi
[23:27:11] <NanoSector> no
[23:27:14] <NanoSector> what laptop do you have?
[23:27:18] <NanoSector> you can't simply 'remove' uefi
[23:27:26] <linux_dream> positivo BGH 800 something
[23:27:45] <linux_dream> trust me, manjaro showed 0 option of uefi
[23:27:50] <linux_dream> during the install
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[23:28:22] <NanoSector> if it's a windows 8 laptop, 100% sure it has uefi
[23:28:24] <linux_dream> i had typed some efibootmgr commands to check if i could support uefi after the install , and was told that it was not compatible
[23:28:42] <linux_dream> yes it was.  as i said, i had uefi first, then repaired the laptop
[23:28:43] <NanoSector> then you booted in CSM mode i think
[23:29:08] <linux_dream> anyway i decided that i dont care at all about uefi
[23:29:16] <linux_dream> there'S no big diff
[23:29:31] <linux_dream> im stuck at the install with the net version
[23:29:45] <NanoSector> uefi has many non-visible advantages over bios, but anyway
[23:30:22] <NanoSector> if you're sure you're running in bios mode you need no /boot partition, you do otherwise
[23:30:24] <linux_dream> like what
[23:30:58] <linux_dream> ok I'll restart the install process and pick the auto installer
[23:31:05] <linux_dream> it will create a /boot partition with GTP
[23:31:08] <NanoSector> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface
[23:31:09] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/FDhtKw] Unified Extensible Firmware Interface - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[23:31:11] <linux_dream> I sasume it will install the uefi manjaro
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[23:31:35] <NanoSector> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Advantages
[23:31:35] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/JsDLNx] Unified Extensible Firmware Interface - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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[23:31:38] <NanoSector> more specifically
[23:31:58] <linux_dream> i remember i need GTP
[23:32:02] <NanoSector> yes
[23:32:04] <linux_dream> GUID partition table
[23:32:06] <linux_dream> fine
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[23:32:16] <NanoSector> GPT with an ESP (/boot)
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[23:32:59] <linux_dream> thanks a lot im following the install now
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[23:33:24] <linux_dream> so wait, only need /boot, /swap (I want it)  and /  right
[23:33:43] <NanoSector> swap doesn't need to be a different partition, can also be a swapfile
[23:33:46] <NanoSector> !wiki swap @ linux_dream
[23:33:46] <FatalException> linux_dream: Swap - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Swap
[23:34:04] <NanoSector> but if you want hibernation, get a partition
[23:34:24] <linux_dream> gosh manjaro forces me to have a /   AND a /home
[23:34:32] <linux_dream> fine.
[23:34:33] <NanoSector> it should not
[23:34:47] <NanoSector> a /home directly on / is a valid setup
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[23:34:53] <NanoSector> installer broken by design, i guess
[23:35:03] <linux_dream> well  Itried to allocate the remaining space to / but it tells me it'S too big
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[23:35:16] <linux_dream> and it tells me the rest of the space will be allocated to /home
[23:35:29] <NanoSector> that makes no sense
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[23:35:34] <linux_dream> ...
[23:35:46] <linux_dream> so yeah the install process is too hard for me i guess
[23:35:58] <linux_dream> manually there'S no guide and using the auto installer sucks
[23:35:58] <NanoSector> or the installer just sucks
[23:36:09] <linux_dream> yes
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[23:36:45] <linux_dream> tempted to try arch linux now
[23:36:54] <NanoSector> !wiki beginner's guide @ linux_dream
[23:36:54] <FatalException> linux_dream: Beginners' guide - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_guide
[23:36:56] <linux_dream> i didn't want to spend hours on this
[23:37:01] <NanoSector> !lucky antergos @ linux_dream
[23:37:03] <FatalException> linux_dream: A modern, elegant, and powerful Linux operating system. From long-time Linux users to Linux users of only a few months, Antergos is for everyone. - https://antergos.com/
[23:37:12] <NanoSector> antergos = arch with installer
[23:37:22] <linux_dream> hmm
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[23:38:47] <linux_dream> i want to see in the forum whether someone faced the problem to install manjaro net
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[23:40:18] <linux_dream> or i do the manjaro install manually with a pro who can help me
[23:40:25] <linux_dream> to figure out the size in MB of my disk
[23:40:59] <linux_dream> BINGO
[23:41:02] <linux_dream> BINNNNGO
[23:41:13] <NanoSector> ?
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[23:41:28] <linux_dream> when i tried manually, asked me to put GTP I said yes, it said that it has to convert md-dos to GTP
[23:41:37] <linux_dream> which it did and now the disk manager is cgdisk
[23:41:43] <linux_dream> CGDISK!!!!
[23:41:48] <linux_dream> it'S not parted anymore!!!!
[23:41:55] <linux_dream> so it means ringo32 can help me :D
[23:42:23] <ringo32> i uefie is for cgdisk
[23:42:27] <ringo32> i dont have :)
[23:43:28] <linux_dream> NanoSector, I need an EFI partition right?
[23:43:45] <NanoSector> you need an esp
[23:43:49] <NanoSector> so yes
[23:43:54] <linux_dream> First section 2048 MB,  last sector 2048 + 512 MB  is ok?
[23:44:02] <NanoSector> no
[23:44:05] <linux_dream> oh
[23:44:13] <NanoSector> first sector -> use default
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[23:44:20] <NanoSector> last sector -> +200M
[23:44:25] <NanoSector> type -> ef00
[23:44:28] <linux_dream> default is 2048
[23:44:38] <NanoSector> at first sector, yes
[23:44:51] <NanoSector> at last sector, enter +200M
[23:45:00] <NanoSector> because 200 MB is plenty for an ESP
[23:45:08] <linux_dream> im told now
[23:45:33] <linux_dream> Current type is 8300 (Linux filesystem)  Hex Code or GUID (L to show codes, Enter = 8300)
[23:45:40] <NanoSector> ef00
[23:45:53] <linux_dream> ok thanks
[23:45:57] <NanoSector> for a name, enter something like ESP
[23:45:58] <linux_dream> now its name.  EFI ?
[23:46:00] <linux_dream> ok
[23:46:04] <NanoSector> it's not important
[23:46:10] <NanoSector> just that you recognize it later
[23:46:19] <NanoSector> then add a new partition and use defaults for everything
[23:46:22] <NanoSector> and optionally enter a name
[23:46:29] <NanoSector> unless you want swap as a different partition
[23:46:51] <linux_dream> wtf though.....  done  but now when it displays the partitions I see free space 1007.0 KiB  ,  and 100.0 KiB for EFI System  part
[23:47:02] <NanoSector> yes
[23:47:06] <linux_dream> that's normal?
[23:47:18] <NanoSector> does it show the ESP being 100 KB?
[23:47:22] <linux_dream> yes
[23:47:26] <NanoSector> that'ś not right
[23:47:45] <linux_dream> i need to edit it then
[23:47:54] <NanoSector> or delete it and try again
[23:48:47] <linux_dream> ok I see my mistake
[23:48:59] <linux_dream> i had entered 200  instead of 200 M
[23:49:29] <linux_dream> is it ok to have 1007.0 KiB  of free space just before the ESP partition?
[23:51:19] <bugzbunny> Doesn't grub need 1MB for bios boot
[23:51:23] <bugzbunny> IIRC
[23:51:31] <bugzbunny> for GPT partitions
[23:51:35] <NanoSector> yes linux_dream, it's normal
[23:51:40] <linux_dream> a
[23:51:41] <linux_dream> ah
[23:51:48] <NanoSector> bugzbunny: what do you mean?
[23:51:58] <linux_dream> can I put the swap partition right after the ESP partition?
[23:52:03] <NanoSector> yes
[23:52:23] <linux_dream> Hex code is swap?
[23:52:29] <linux_dream> or GUID
[23:52:37] <bugzbunny> NanoSector, http://askubuntu.com/questions/362689/gpt-detected-please-create-a-bios-boot-partition-while-using-boot-repair
[23:52:38] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/dpnWlc] grub2 - "GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition" while using boot-repair - Ask Ubuntu
[23:53:17] <bugzbunny> However, don't believe that's needed if you are using UEFI to boot the system doh
[23:53:38] <linux_dream> 8200 is swap
[23:53:45] <linux_dream> according to http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/cgdisk-walkthrough.html
[23:53:46] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/93otwf] A cgdisk Walkthrough
[23:54:02] <linux_dream> fine ^^
[23:54:05] <linux_dream> worked fine so far
[23:54:23] <linux_dream> what's the GUID of the root partition?
[23:55:21] <linux_dream> 8300 ?
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[23:56:13] <linux_dream> I did that.  I guess I'm done with it.  now what, NanoSector ?  do I Align, or Type, or Verify?
[23:56:17] <linux_dream> or Write
[23:58:28] <ringo32> in cgdisk ?
[23:58:55] <linux_dream> yes
[23:59:05] <linux_dream> damn i am reading the arch wiki, i am worried
[23:59:14] <linux_dream>  EFI System Partitions require code EF00 with gdisk and EFI System with fdisk.
[23:59:15] <linux_dream> GRUB requires a BIOS boot partition with code EF02 with gdisk and BIOS boot with fdisk when installing GRUB to a disk.
[23:59:15] <ringo32> write is to write it on disk
[23:59:38] <ringo32> cgdisk or cfdisk you prepair generally first

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