July 18, 2016 
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Still doesn't work[02:13:11] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:19:52] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[02:29:42] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:30:03] *** AndChat|261225 <AndChat|261225!~AndChat26@2607:fb90:25a8:60d:0:48:50b1:ef01> has joined #manjaro[02:31:47] *** AndChat-261225 <AndChat-261225!~AndChat26@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has joined #manjaro[02:31:53] *** AndChat|261225 <AndChat|261225!~AndChat26@2607:fb90:25a8:60d:0:48:50b1:ef01> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:32:46] *** Brenton32839 <Brenton32839!~AndChat26@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[02:32:49] *** AndChat|261225 <AndChat|261225!~AndChat26@2607:fb90:25a8:60d:0:48:50b1:ef01> has joined #manjaro[02:33:29] *** Brenton32839 <Brenton32839!~AndChat26@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has joined #manjaro[02:33:29] *** Brenton32839 <Brenton32839!~AndChat26@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:33:31] *** AndChat|261225 <AndChat|261225!~AndChat26@2607:fb90:25a8:60d:0:48:50b1:ef01> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:34:07] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[02:34:21] *** Keith512 <Keith512!516d7f93@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.109.127.147> has joined #manjaro[02:35:43] <Keith512> is there a package that controls the list of kernels in the manjaro settings[02:36:24] *** AndChat-261225 <AndChat-261225!~AndChat26@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[02:36:46] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:37:25] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has joined #manjaro[02:41:06] <Lowl3v3l> Keith512, nope, mhwd gets the list on line i suppose.[02:41:07] <Keith512> as my list only goes up to 4.6.2 in Manjaro 16.06.1 Cinnamon[02:42:17] <Keith512> ah i jsut asked as 4.6.4 got released recently and 4.7 (non rc) will be release in a few hours[02:42:21] <Lowl3v3l> Keith512, 4.7 isn't yet released. so 4.6 is the newest mainline stable kernel[02:43:07] <Lowl3v3l> Keith512, yeah well 2 minor numbers behind mainline is kinda normal since manjaro gets most packages from arch. especially if you are on manjaros stable branch[02:43:16] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:43:33] <Keith512> Arch just got 4.6.4[02:43:51] <Lowl3v3l> Keith512, yeah and from arch to manjaro stable its quite a step[02:44:53] <Keith512> some cinnamon packages just got updates there is a few nemo one left to update[02:46:52] <Keith512> manjaro would be perfect if there was a way to include the arch repo[02:47:08] <Lowl3v3l> arch is a completely different distribution.[02:47:15] <Lowl3v3l> if you want the arch software... use arch.[02:47:41] <Keith512> i though about that but it too hard to build[02:48:17] <Lowl3v3l> really? o.O well then bleeding edge software is definitely the wrong choice for you anyway, i am afraid.[02:48:22] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@189.0.205.15> has joined #manjaro[02:48:58] <Keith512> i tend to boot to a live cd a lot so i need a DE[02:48:58] *** manjaro-jwm is now known as Billi[02:48:58] <Lowl3v3l> Keith512, though i never met someone that couldn't set up arch with some reading ...[02:49:13] *** Billi is now known as Torna[02:49:45] <dodgejcr> I have. This someone and computers was.... just... cringeworthy[02:49:55] <Lowl3v3l> Keith512, uhm you can install all DE's i am aware of( okay Unity bitches around, but who'd want that?) in arch[02:50:07] <Lowl3v3l> dodgejcr, that bad?[02:50:15] <dodgejcr> But the messed up part is, this guy is a software developer for a large company[02:50:22] <Lowl3v3l> dodgejcr, abandon all hope, ye who enters here![02:50:22] <robin0800> Keith512, you can use architect http://architectlinux.boardhost.com/[02:50:24] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/qFN3gi] Architect Linux[02:50:59] <Keith512> interesting[02:51:06] <dodgejcr> very bad. Understood the software side of things better than most. But when it came to anything having to do with hardware/OS specific (like drivers) guy was a complete moron lol[02:52:10] <Keith512> we will get a update to manjaro in a bit with 16.08[02:52:16] <Lowl3v3l> robin0800, or Keith512 could just do it the right way, read the stuff up and set up arch xD[02:52:17] <dodgejcr> sad part is. I can go from no OS and new HDD to full arch with DE and other fun stuff in less than 20 mins. Most of it is partitioning and installing software[02:52:44] <Lowl3v3l> dodgejcr, okay if i am allowed to copy my config files i can do it in 20 minutes too xD[02:53:41] <dodgejcr> lol thats really all it should take. If someone reads everything a few times before even starting they can fly through the installation[02:54:05] <dodgejcr> but most people try to just start with the instructions open on a second device and they get overwhelmed[02:54:38] <Keith512> i found myself using linux more as windows kept naging about windows 10[02:54:57] <dodgejcr> Yeah that has converted more than a few people to linux[02:55:12] <dodgejcr> Converted my sister[02:56:01] <dodgejcr> Which is awesome. Im proud of her. She is a "Computers are only good for facebook and music" person and she installed manjaro by herself.[02:56:26] <Keith512> my brother was using libreoffice in windows and his machine rebooted and upgraded to 10[02:56:57] <Lowl3v3l> dodgejcr, wow thats great. i always like ocnversion stories^^[02:56:59] <Keith512> and on a sunday as well[02:57:10] <dodgejcr> lol. Well I have 10 on most of my machines along with linux. My wife and kids know it better and trying to explain linux to them is daunting. They are slowly getting used to kde tho[02:57:39] *** Torna <Torna!~manjaro-j@189.0.205.15> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:57:50] <dodgejcr> My son can use awesomeWM pretty well. Still gets confused on some of the KB shortcuts but knows the basics. At age 9, couldnt ask for much more[02:58:40] <Keith512> does anyone here run a gtx1080 in linux[03:00:31] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[03:03:02] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!)[03:04:08] <dodgejcr> I think my next ave the 1080[03:04:39] <dodgejcr> my next build*[03:08:41] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-092-076-215-066.092.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:10:36] *** HoNgOuRu <HoNgOuRu!~fenix@r167-57-129-98.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:11:07] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@186.82.70.156> has joined #manjaro[03:21:40] *** pottedplant42 <pottedplant42!491d87b2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.29.135.178> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[03:23:51] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 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has joined #manjaro[05:44:03] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[05:45:44] <shndns> Hello[05:46:43] *** shndns <shndns!~shndns@ip68-99-243-10.ph.ph.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[05:47:08] *** shndns <shndns!~shndns@ip68-99-243-10.ph.ph.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[05:49:17] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:50:43] *** shndns <shndns!~shndns@ip68-99-243-10.ph.ph.cox.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[05:53:00] *** shndns <shndns!~shndns@ip68-99-243-10.ph.ph.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[05:57:44] <i-> what happened to #manjaro-talk?[06:00:05] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[06:01:36] *** Pablo <Pablo!~Pablo@201.22.14.39.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has joined #manjaro[06:02:56] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[06:03:48] <shambles07> i don't ever see anyone chat in there... so i just stick in here lol[06:04:27] <bugzbunny> It disappeared[06:04:43] <shambles07> i started talking in here only a few days ago[06:04:53] <shambles07> so i never saw manjaro-talk be active[06:06:23] <shambles07> so, i installed nestopia[06:06:29] <shambles07> and somehow maximized it[06:06:40] <shambles07> and now my screens will flicker kind of randomly[06:06:45] *** dietr1ch <dietr1ch!~dietr1ch@186-79-141-92.baf.movistar.cl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[06:06:50] <shambles07> until i click on whatever is the active window on that screen[06:08:36] *** drama <drama!49d05461@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.208.84.97> has joined #manjaro[06:09:22] *** drama <drama!49d05461@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.208.84.97> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:11:21] *** shndns <shndns!~shndns@ip68-99-243-10.ph.ph.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:16:34] *** pingupingu <pingupingu!~pinguping@unaffiliated/pingupingu> has 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floown <floown!~quassel@unaffiliated/fanchon> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[10:30:39] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:31:06] *** floown <floown!~quassel@unaffiliated/fanchon> has joined #manjaro[10:31:59] <manjaro-kde5--> so hopeful[10:32:43] <ringo32> which kernel?[10:33:37] <manjaro-kde5--> arch[10:33:52] <manjaro-kde5--> soory[10:34:00] <manjaro-kde5--> *sorry[10:34:30] <manjaro-kde5--> 4.4.13-1[10:35:13] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has joined #manjaro[10:37:07] *** manjaro-web|4270 <manjaro-web|4270!55c96e6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.85.201.110.110> has joined #manjaro[10:37:27] <manjaro-web|4270> Hi[10:37:48] <manjaro-kde5--> hi[10:38:22] <manjaro-web|4270> After installing a fresh Manajaro 16.01.1, I ran into a keyboard issue[10:38:41] <manjaro-kde5--> describe more[10:38:46] <manjaro-web|4270> After wake-up, the keyboard becomes inactive... all the rest (mouse...) workng well[10:39:20] <manjaro-kde5--> I have reverse problem[10:39:30] <manjaro-kde5--> I tochpad don't work after that[10:40:06] <ringo32> ah i knew one his keyboard on laptop didnt work also[10:40:08] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@88.247.118.243> has joined #manjaro[10:40:55] <manjaro-kde5--> I think it related to your laptop model[10:41:26] <manjaro-web|4270> OK, then another driver to be used?[10:42:01] <manjaro-web|4270> what is strange is that I wake it up using the Enter key![10:45:05] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:45:19] <manjaro-kde5--> only use that key?[10:45:38] <ringo32> which kernel are you using ?[10:45:43] <manjaro-web|4270> or the power button, both do work for the wake up[10:46:44] <ringo32> is something on powersaving , dont know if its kernel related or xorg[10:49:11] <manjaro-web|4270> Which logging messages should I look at to find some relevant information?[10:49:33] *** 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Unless of course you have a more specific problem.[13:57:34] <Georgio> I tought it be better to ask a manjaro user[13:57:54] <peetaur2> and there are a bunch of options. I prefer command line options.[13:57:54] <Georgio> Im used to kali linux and just a bit lost[13:58:05] <Georgio> Yes that is what im looking for[13:58:32] <Georgio> i rarely use Graphical software for that[13:59:01] <Georgio> Im used to the apt-get thing meh[13:59:04] <peetaur2> and did you search online?[13:59:04] <mparillo> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Main_Page#Software_Management[13:59:05] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/dBMp7Q] Manjaro Linux[14:00:14] <Georgio> Install a package pacman -S package_name, that doesnt work for me[14:00:45] <peetaur2> pfft that link is cheating.... you have to give those answers in the form like this: https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=manjaro%20install%20software[14:00:46] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/z0jXqS] Let Me DuckDuckGo That For You - LMDDGTFY[14:01:16] <Georgio> Oh nice[14:02:02] <Georgio> So y'all not gonna help just laying around with your "modesty' up high or what ?[14:02:33] <peetaur2> not at all... and I'm sure it may frustrate you, but in the long term, showing you that it's easy to research these small things yourself will help you more.[14:03:09] <Georgio> If i'm here t's because i can't find a clear instruction in english which isnt my first language[14:03:34] <Georgio> Hope I'd get help but nvm , let me get to that reading 8 pages of bs to find the one command i need[14:04:38] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[14:04:57] <peetaur2> What do you suggest as the polite way to help someone who isn't showing any effort then?[14:05:07] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has joined #manjaro[14:05:45] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has joined #manjaro[14:06:15] <ringo32> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta[14:06:15] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/jhCqHt] Pacman/Rosetta - ArchWiki[14:06:18] <ringo32> :)[14:08:01] <ringo32> what is your languae Georgio ?[14:08:35] <peetaur2> my guess is French, by the ip address[14:09:10] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-172-137.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[14:10:18] <ringo32> i dont know :)[14:10:44] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.225.139> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[14:10:53] <ringo32> i lately dropped #manjaro-talk[14:11:12] <ringo32> gona drop ##manjaro soon :p with double ##[14:11:19] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@122.162.14.183> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:11:36] <peetaur2> didn't know there was a ##manjaro[14:11:42] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@122.162.14.183> has joined #manjaro[14:15:17] <ringo32> but is just made not official lol[14:15:53] <ringo32> i dropped #manjaro-talk seems there is a new owner :p or not :)[14:17:25] *** Softeisbieger <Softeisbieger!~Softeisbi@ip-62-143-13-166.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:20:29] *** captainkats <captainkats!~captaink@adsl-120.79.107.188.tellas.gr> has joined #manjaro[14:22:24] *** soulez <soulez!~user@unaffiliated/soulez> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:24:36] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-172-137.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[14:24:55] *** captainkats <captainkats!~captaink@adsl-120.79.107.188.tellas.gr> has left #manjaro[14:33:12] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[14:36:00] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[14:39:00] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[14:39:00] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[14:43:40] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@90.151.101.15> has joined #manjaro[14:43:44] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:43:55] *** manjaro-kde5_ is now known as DenArch[14:45:03] *** DenArch <DenArch!~manjaro-k@90.151.101.15> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:45:42] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[14:45:42] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[14:46:53] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[14:47:06] <Kranix> This is weird.[14:47:13] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@14.139.159.99> has joined #manjaro[14:47:42] <Kranix> I just changed the display formats to Danish standards, and now something like half of the text in Settings Manager is in Danish, even though my system language is still English.[14:47:49] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@14.139.159.99> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:48:06] <Kranix> I even tried changed the languages back from English - Denmark to English - UK while keeping only the formats.[14:50:03] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-58c037-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:51:14] *** Georgio <Georgio!52ee5844@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.238.88.68> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[14:51:19] <peetaur2> that sounds dreadful... reminds me of google's stupid web pages where instead of following standards as if they had a clue, you can set your browser to whatever language you want, and it just ignores it and does it by geolocation...and to undo that you have to navigate through menus of foreign languages to find the button to make it english again[14:51:30] *** kc9iid <kc9iid!~mark@c-68-44-47-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[14:51:49] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[14:52:15] <Kranix> I think I'll try switching to some third language and seeing if it makes the system "forget/refresh" some of it.[14:52:23] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:52:27] *** doggy2 <doggy2!52ee5844@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.238.88.68> has joined #manjaro[14:52:32] <doggy2> Anyone there[14:52:51] <Strit_Laptop> Was just about to suggest Kranix to reboot, before all changes are applied.[14:52:52] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@ppp91-122-152-23.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[14:53:00] <doggy2> is there a way to download softwares on manjaro without using the command line ? i can't find the answer on Google[14:53:29] <Strit_Laptop> doggy2, depending on your edition, thereøs Pamac and Octopi, both are package manager's with a GUI.[14:54:01] <doggy2> I used pacman but only in command line. didn't know that. Thank yu[14:54:10] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[14:54:24] <doggy2> Any idea on how to open Pacman GUI ?[14:54:43] <Kranix> Huh. I just changed everything to German, and it's still displaying this weird mix of Danish and English.[14:54:54] *** s8321414_ <s8321414_!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has joined #manjaro[14:55:11] <Strit_Laptop> Kranix, did you reboot after language change?[14:55:25] <Strit_Laptop> doggy2, pacman is only command line, while Pamac and Octopi are only GUI.[14:55:44] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@juv34-4-82-238-88-68.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[14:55:57] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[14:56:09] <Kranix> Reboot? I thought I saw a dialog saying I just needed to log out.[14:56:17] *** s8321414_ is now known as s8321414[14:56:34] <Kranix> Well, might as well try that as well.[14:56:37] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[14:56:38] <Strit_Laptop> Kranix, not sure about logging it. but maybe a restart of the xorg-server is needed.[14:56:42] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:57:07] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[14:57:31] <doggy2> octopi is awesome thanks[14:59:18] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[14:59:31] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@122.162.14.183> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:00:03] <Kranix> Now the login interface changed to German, but everything after logging is still Danish or English.[15:00:17] <Strit_Laptop> lol[15:00:31] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@223.72.251.249> has joined #manjaro[15:00:39] <Strit_Laptop> What are your language set to? german? or some mix of it all. :P[15:01:03] <Kranix> I set everything to German before this reboot.[15:01:31] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@user-188-33-64-53.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[15:01:35] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@user-188-33-64-53.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:01:49] <Strit_Laptop> Even in detailed settings?[15:01:58] <Kranix> Yep.[15:03:29] <Strit_Laptop> Well, The only reason I can think of, is that some of the languages are unfinished. I run the Danish UTF one without trouble though.[15:05:16] <Kranix> Maybe. I actually don't want Danish language at all, though. Just Danish formats and everything else UK English.[15:05:46] <ringo32> oh only keyboard?[15:06:33] <Kranix> Measurements, time and so as well.[15:07:48] <Kranix> Hm. Seems KDE sometimes fails to change the language on the whole system, judging by what locale command in shell tells me...[15:09:01] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has joined #manjaro[15:09:01] <Strit_Laptop> Oh, I'm on XFCE. Could be why it works for me, and not for you.[15:10:31] *** SubZ3ro <SubZ3ro!~subz3r0@152.93.60.94.rev.vodafone.pt> has joined #manjaro[15:10:39] <Kranix> Wow. Locale commands gives da_DK, locale.conf reads de_DE, and locale.gen has de_De, en_DK and en_GB uncommented.[15:11:36] <Strit_Laptop> hehe[15:13:09] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:15:53] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[15:17:20] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[15:18:26] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:19:14] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has left #manjaro ("Manjaro Strit is available at www.strits.dk!")[15:21:32] <ringo32> hi SubZ3ro[15:21:40] <SubZ3ro> hi ringo32[15:22:17] <ringo32> can you freez here a bit ?[15:22:19] <ringo32> :)[15:22:23] <ringo32> its kinda hot[15:22:26] <SubZ3ro> :P[15:22:27] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@84.19.166.49> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[15:22:37] <SubZ3ro> no luck my friend here in portugal its bad also :P[15:22:37] <ringo32> look at my new profile : https://forum.manjaro.org/users/ringosleeps/activity[15:22:37] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/fjJNuI] (link was unresponsive: https://forum.manjaro.org/users/ringosleeps/activity)[15:22:50] <ringo32> :)[15:23:46] *** Matumaros <Matumaros!3e9fed02@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.159.237.2> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[15:24:45] * ringo32 ooooooooooooooops[15:25:05] <ringo32> all my short cuts in my Xfce is almost perfect[15:26:20] <ringo32> mmm[15:26:30] <ringo32> just a little flaw in my script[15:29:34] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@122.162.4.126> has joined #manjaro[15:29:36] <SubZ3ro> you are again with xfce ringo ?[15:29:45] <ringo32> yeah :p[15:29:53] <SubZ3ro> manjaro or antergos'[15:29:57] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[15:29:57] <ringo32> antergos[15:30:25] <Kranix> Hm. Changing language via shell seems to do nothing, either.[15:30:27] <ringo32> for now i had to install Qt4 :/[15:30:49] <ringo32> localctl ?[15:31:25] <ringo32> localectl status[15:32:22] <Kranix> The output of that seems right. Or at least what the system does with it seems wrong.[15:32:24] <ringo32> http://ix.io/Nlc[15:32:25] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/4rmSQc] (not a web page, content type: text/plain)[15:32:26] <ringo32> for me[15:34:07] <Kranix> I don't know if we're talking about the same issue, or it was part of a conversation before I logged in...[15:35:28] *** Softeisbieger <Softeisbieger!~Softeisbi@ip-62-143-13-166.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #manjaro[15:35:40] <ringo32> my native language is dutch the locale language is dutch here[15:36:10] <ringo32> i asume system language should be english?[15:36:18] <ringo32> only keyboard DK?[15:36:51] <Kranix> Keyboard and formats for units of measurement, time and so on.[15:38:13] <ringo32> time is focused on timedatectl offcourse mayby pointed to wrong country ...[15:39:51] <Kranix> The formats are fine now, but at the same time, the language turned weird and mixed up.[15:41:39] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:41:48] <ringo32> came it from MSM that issue ?[15:42:52] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[15:46:16] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:48:30] *** shariebeth <shariebeth!~sb@unaffiliated/shariebeth> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[15:49:06] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@223.72.251.249> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:49:21] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@223.72.251.248> has joined #manjaro[15:50:20] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[15:52:23] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[15:52:55] <Kranix> FFS...[15:53:17] <Kranix> This language issue is getting seriously annoying. Really shouldn't give this volume of bugs.[15:53:38] <ringo32> you changed before in Manjaro settings manager ?[15:53:51] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-12889.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[15:54:32] <Kranix> What do you mean "before"?[15:54:39] <Kranix> It seems identical to the KDE locale settings.[15:54:57] *** Softeisbieger <Softeisbieger!~Softeisbi@ip-62-143-13-166.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:55:52] *** shariebeth <shariebeth!~sb@unaffiliated/shariebeth> has joined #manjaro[15:55:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v shariebeth[15:57:39] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:57:50] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[15:59:03] <ringo32> i dont use kde, i dont know also what went wrong ;./[15:59:52] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[15:59:56] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@223.72.251.248> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[16:01:50] <Kranix> Not your fault. I'm just really annoyed because I can't stand the kind of eyesores this thing makes.[16:06:13] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:06:13] <ringo32> het issues with localectl before , because TTY have not my keyboard fixed it on terminal with localectl and localegen[16:07:14] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~flipper@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has joined #manjaro[16:07:22] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[16:07:49] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: tmsbrdrs)[16:10:19] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[16:12:27] <Kranix> Another weird thing is that I don't even have Danish KDE localization installed, so it shouldn't be ABLE to display stuff in Danish.[16:18:23] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy[16:18:30] *** Guest42536 <Guest42536!~Tangeant@24.114.92.79> has joined #manjaro[16:18:32] *** LambdaComplex <LambdaComplex!~LambdaCom@unaffiliated/lambda-complex/x-6237632> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[16:18:37] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.225.139> has joined #manjaro[16:18:46] <Kranix> Hi.[16:19:59] *** Guest42536 is now known as manjaro-bspwm[16:20:54] *** LambdaComplex <LambdaComplex!~LambdaCom@unaffiliated/lambda-complex/x-6237632> has joined #manjaro[16:21:19] *** manjaro-bspwm <manjaro-bspwm!~Tangeant@24.114.92.79> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:21:36] *** Tangeant_ <Tangeant_!~Tangeant@24.114.92.79> has joined #manjaro[16:21:46] *** zoon <zoon!~zoon@96.56.232.211> has joined #manjaro[16:23:02] *** Tangeant_ <Tangeant_!~Tangeant@24.114.92.79> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:23:51] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109.92.154.1> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[16:27:49] <bolvary> Hi, I would like to install Light FF. However, the version installed from the repository does not even start. I have figured out that my CPU does not support SSE2 only SSE. I am wondering whether the version in the repo is for sse too. If not how can I remedy this situation?[16:27:58] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:28:28] *** Tangeant_ <Tangeant_!~Tangeant@24.114.92.79> has joined #manjaro[16:29:34] *** doggy2 <doggy2!52ee5844@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.238.88.68> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[16:31:44] <Lowl3v3l> bolvary, since you seem to have excessively old hardware : change distro or build it yourself[16:31:58] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@juv34-4-82-238-88-68.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:32:40] *** Tangeant_ <Tangeant_!~Tangeant@24.114.92.79> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:34:51] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-216-012-020.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:35:39] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[16:35:51] *** othniel <othniel!~manjaro-k@105.0.26.129> has joined #manjaro[16:36:03] <othniel> Hey guys[16:36:09] <othniel> and ladiez[16:36:23] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[16:36:26] <othniel> whats the best simple low resource video editor ?[16:36:50] <Kuvis> openshot is pretty ok iirc, othniel[16:37:21] <othniel> thank you kuviz[16:38:46] *** Tangeant_ <Tangeant_!~Tangeant@24.114.92.79> has joined #manjaro[16:39:12] <Kranix> My locale settings are absolutely stuck now.[16:39:24] <CountryfiedLinux> othniel, Kdenlive seems pretty snappy here.[16:39:59] <CountryfiedLinux> It launches in less than 1 second.[16:40:06] <CountryfiedLinux> But then again I have an SSD :)[16:40:45] <othniel> unfortunately no ssd here CountryfiedLinux[16:41:11] <CountryfiedLinux> They're not cheap. Luckily I had some extra cash at the time.[16:41:27] <CountryfiedLinux> I wanna get a bigger one and use this smaller one as an external.[16:41:33] *** kc9iid <kc9iid!~mark@c-68-44-47-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Goodbye Everyone)[16:42:15] <CountryfiedLinux> I have usb 3.0 external disk enclosure.[16:42:21] <CountryfiedLinux> The life of a laptop user :P[16:42:48] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[16:42:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[16:42:55] <CountryfiedLinux> BTW I saw someone comment under an article "Who uses laptops anymore to connect to the internet?" haha.[16:45:18] <CountryfiedLinux> bolvary, Try Lubuntu or Bodhi Linux maybe.[16:45:36] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:46:59] <bolvary> CountryfiedLinux: Thanks, but it is a Manjaro channel.... ;-)[16:47:40] <CountryfiedLinux> bolvary, Manjaro Openbox[16:47:43] <CountryfiedLinux> LXDE[16:47:46] <CountryfiedLinux> LXQT[16:47:50] <CountryfiedLinux> Trinity[16:47:58] <CountryfiedLinux> JWM[16:48:04] <CountryfiedLinux> Lots of light options[16:48:16] <CountryfiedLinux> ratpoison[16:48:17] <CountryfiedLinux> i3[16:48:41] <bolvary> CountryfiedLinux: thanks, but I need a light browser[16:48:54] <CountryfiedLinux> Budgie[16:48:54] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[16:48:59] <CountryfiedLinux> Dillo[16:49:01] <CountryfiedLinux> Lynx[16:49:04] <CountryfiedLinux> Links[16:49:08] <CountryfiedLinux> Midori[16:49:35] <CountryfiedLinux> Qupzilla[16:50:02] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[16:50:06] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@77.233.11.223> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:50:17] <CountryfiedLinux> Netsurf[16:50:21] <CountryfiedLinux> Not sure on the spelling[16:51:41] <bolvary> CountryfiedLinux: thanks. I know Dillo and Links and they work well[16:53:24] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:53:40] *** Tangeant_ <Tangeant_!~Tangeant@24.114.92.79> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:54:40] <CountryfiedLinux> YW bolvary[16:55:24] <CountryfiedLinux> Actually I did do a Manjaro base install before and used Links to navigate the Arch wiki to get stuff done.[16:56:03] <CountryfiedLinux> Back when Plasma 5 was still new. I had the impression since Manjaro was still on 4 that I'd do a base install and bring in 5 from the AUR. Still got stuck with 4 :P[16:56:22] *** Manj-1605-Lxqt <Manj-1605-Lxqt!~malu@212.225.226.16> has joined #manjaro[16:56:50] <CountryfiedLinux> On 5 now though after a long KDE absence. Gotta say, the KDE and Gnome teams have improved their desktops immensely, speed especially![16:57:48] <othniel> KDE is Boss[16:58:03] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@94.249.112.128> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:58:03] <Strit_Laptop> othniel, KDE is huge like a boss![17:00:09] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:b3de:3de9:531f:5ce2> has joined #manjaro[17:01:28] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@223.72.251.252> has joined #manjaro[17:01:36] *** Manj-1605-Lxqt <Manj-1605-Lxqt!~malu@212.225.226.16> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:03:01] *** varta <varta!~varta@78.171.58.190> has joined #manjaro[17:03:16] <varta> Merhaba[17:03:46] <CountryfiedLinux> Strit_Laptop, huge?[17:03:55] <varta> Sanal Terminalde türkçe karakter kullanamıyorum[17:04:04] <varta> yardımcı olabilecek birileri var mıdır?[17:05:27] <Strit_Laptop> CountryfiedLinux, yeah, installing KDE plasma desktop is a couple of Gigs of space.[17:05:54] <CountryfiedLinux> That's small for me and I have a 120 GB disk.[17:06:23] <Strit_Laptop> That's huge for me, since other, more stable desktops are only a few hundred Megs.[17:07:01] <CountryfiedLinux> It seems pretty stable here. Just as fast or faster than other desktops too. Depends on the hardware of the user of course.[17:07:33] <Strit_Laptop> I hear about loads of dbus and qt errors from kde users these days.[17:07:39] <CountryfiedLinux> Speaking of hardware, how come system requirements for games are overstated? Games that my laptop isn't suited for run just fine.[17:08:07] <Strit_Laptop> CountryfiedLinux, because they don't want the calls from people with obscure hardware, where the game doesn't run top notch.[17:08:24] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ipbcc0f0cb.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[17:08:47] <CountryfiedLinux> The closest thing to an error I've seen on here is Pamac looks like a Gnome app. That and when there's updates, clicking on the red pamac-tray icon on the panel does nothing, but it goes away after I update.[17:09:06] <Strit_Laptop> Pamac is a gtk app. :P[17:09:48] <Strit_Laptop> after my update to qt 5.7 manjaro settings manager does not use my gtk theme anymore though. :([17:10:09] <CountryfiedLinux> Well, there was one free game in the Windows Store when I was using Windows 10 called Forza Motorsport Beta or something like that. It wouldn't even let me run it because my hardware was "insufficient". I think they should at least let users try to run it. If it was from Steam instead of Windows Store it would've let me try.[17:10:47] *** SubZ3ro <SubZ3ro!~subz3r0@152.93.60.94.rev.vodafone.pt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:10:53] <CountryfiedLinux> Strit_Laptop, So are Hexchat, OBS, and Chromium, but I read something about Gtk3 apps still require Gtk2 libs to loop right on KDE.[17:11:19] <Strit_Laptop> Hexchat, OBS and chromium looks like they used to though.[17:11:39] <othniel> I love KDE just hate Firefox[17:11:42] <CountryfiedLinux> How did they used to look?[17:11:45] <Strit_Laptop> but i don't know abour on kde[17:11:57] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm using Chromium with pepper flash and widevine packages installed.[17:12:49] <CountryfiedLinux> Not sure if it's essentially any different than Chrome itself, but running Netflix without Chrome feels good somehow.[17:13:25] <CountryfiedLinux> I recken I'm a geek without they typical geek personality :P[17:14:12] <Strit_Laptop> CountryfiedLinux, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tvy_Pbe5NA[17:14:13] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/UHGjNN] Epic Rap Battle: Nerd vs. Geek - YouTube[17:15:30] *** varta <varta!~varta@78.171.58.190> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:18:53] <CountryfiedLinux> Strit_Laptop, In that case I'm more like a geek :P[17:18:55] <tmsbrdrs> Strit_Laptop: that's almost as good as the steve jobs vs. bill gates one[17:19:09] <CountryfiedLinux> Have y'all seen the iToilet?[17:19:15] <Strit_Laptop> yeah. I'm more in the nerd category. :)[17:19:41] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[17:19:49] <CountryfiedLinux> Or the Mactini?[17:25:37] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:27:02] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[17:32:45] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[17:33:14] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[17:33:22] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has joined #manjaro[17:33:28] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@177.84.220.9> has joined #manjaro[17:34:02] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@177.84.220.9> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:37:07] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has joined #manjaro[17:37:39] <Kranix> Is there some way to just reset my locale settings completely?[17:37:49] <Kranix> It seems to be broken somehow.[17:37:58] <Kranix> I've tried everything on ArchWiki and forums.[17:43:23] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:43:57] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[17:44:10] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:44:42] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@p5DE39327.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:45:05] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[17:45:40] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:46:05] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@p5DE39327.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[17:46:23] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@p5DE39327.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:51:00] *** CountryfiedLinux 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<Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[19:30:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[19:30:24] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@wlan-141-23-90-44.tubit.tu-berlin.de> has joined #manjaro[19:32:06] *** Guest63837 <Guest63837!uid11755@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lgiaewssyvinnvmf> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[19:32:11] *** GunfighterJ <GunfighterJ!~gunfighte@2607:5300:60:34b:d::43> has joined #manjaro[19:32:52] *** GenZai <GenZai!~emil@mnt60-1-88-186-66-2.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[19:33:50] <Strit_Laptop> What driver would be best to run my GFX? regular nvidia or nvidia-340: Card-2: NVIDIA GF117M [GeForce 610M/710M/810M/820M / GT 620M/625M/630M/720M][19:34:01] *** elliot007 <elliot007!~elliot@103.254.56.102> has joined #manjaro[19:34:39] <elliot007> Hey can anyone tell me how to change the lockscreen background on both KDE and JWM[19:36:34] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@46.197.149.93> has joined 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Just checked the comparison between my integrated GPU and the Dedicated GPU. Not much difference it seems.[20:32:42] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@122.162.4.126> has joined #manjaro[20:33:38] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@alq129.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[20:33:51] <Strit_Laptop> The benchmarks with optirun, with primusrun and without any of them, is not that different either.[20:34:48] <Strit_Laptop> But optirun does have a few fps more. :)[20:36:07] <mike-zal> was trying to install some linux distro on coworker laptop and none of ubuntu alikes (and open suse) saw wifi broadcom card so I finnaly tried manjaro and... there was no issues...[20:36:29] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has joined #manjaro[20:36:32] <mike-zal> optirun is the old one and not supported anymore?[20:36:43] <mike-zal> at least not on manjaro[20:36:51] <Lowl3v3l> mike-zal, its not like there are no debian drivers for broadcom...[20:37:18] <mike-zal> Lowl3v3l: problem is, I never used cable connection so without wifi I can't find them[20:37:35] <Strit_Laptop> mike-zal, optirun is still supported I think. :)[20:37:35] <mike-zal> I mean, I can't find drivers[20:38:03] <mike-zal> Strit_Laptop: I never had optirun on manjaro. primusrun on the other hand is installed out of the box on manjaro[20:38:19] <Strit_Laptop> So is optirun, if you have bumblebee installed. :)[20:38:34] <mike-zal> nope. I have bumblebee and no optirun[20:38:40] <mike-zal> when I use it, no such command[20:38:44] <Lowl3v3l> mike-zal, uhm download, take a usb-stick and install the package using dpkg? no magic here.[20:38:47] <mike-zal> but primusrun works[20:39:06] <Strit_Laptop> mike-zal, do you have intel/nvidia installed?[20:39:18] <mike-zal> Lowl3v3l: have no idea what you just said. never had need to do so, so that's a black magick for me[20:40:09] <Lowl3v3l> mike-zal, installing a driver for hardware from an asshole-vendor manually is black magic? oh boy, you need to see some of the scripts that run on my machines...[20:40:24] <mike-zal> besides, it's easier and quicker to check out few distros live and see which one works rather then google, read and play with drivers. I don't have that kind of time at work.[20:40:59] <Lowl3v3l> you dont have like... 5 minutes when installing a notebook? xD[20:41:25] <mike-zal> Lowl3v3l: scrpts are high black magick ;P. manjaro is used by none tech users like me. I deal with stuff when I have to but don't expect me to know things, especially if I never needed or done it before[20:42:12] <mike-zal> Lowl3v3l: it's not 5 mintes when you have no idea what to do. you just said to me something and I still have no idea how to do it, so yeah, no time for it at work[20:43:03] <mike-zal> I'm sure if there were no other soultions I would have to find time, but so far, manjaro worked. my only issues is that it's rolling distro. it's perfect on home desktop but a bit risky at work[20:43:08] <Lowl3v3l> mike-zal, at least for debian it is. google "debian broadcom wifi" or something alike, find the wiki article, follow its like 2 steps -> you're done. I'd be surprises if it were different on *buntu.[20:44:24] <mike-zal> Lowl3v3l: I just had distros at hand, that was easer for me. if manjaro will cause troubles in work environemnt, I will google the issue, but so far I decided to go with it, as an experiment.[20:44:25] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@juv34-4-82-238-88-68.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[20:44:25] *** manjaro-kde5- is now known as manjaro-kde[20:44:46] *** xircon1 <xircon1!~xircon@2a02:c7f:5e1b:5200:4a51:b7ff:febb:7a33> has joined #manjaro[20:44:47] <mike-zal> my own home install works flawlessly since many months so maybe this on will too[20:45:43] <mike-zal> I used manjaro cinnamon for more windows familiar look. coworker has no ideas about systems. she just needs to do work on it, browsers and couple of programs. I'll be maintaining the system.[20:46:35] <mike-zal> anyway, my point was: none of ubuntu based systems came thorugh, manjaro on the other hand worked perfectly out of the box[20:46:58] <mike-zal> I even tried pre ubuntu 16.04 versions and they didn;t work too.[20:47:28] <mike-zal> as to primus/optirun, I red somewhere that optirun is older standard and is not developed anymore[20:47:43] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[20:48:04] <mike-zal> also for some computers it didn't work so well, although in general it's a bit more efficient then primusrun[20:48:08] * ringo32 calls optimus prime[20:48:21] <mike-zal> I wished they would implement automatic switch thou, like on windows[20:49:01] <ringo32> no need , why?[20:49:06] <mike-zal> on the other hand it's good that one can choose it manually. I have a game that doesn't work well with primusrun, because character textures don't show, but it works on intel.[20:49:16] <mike-zal> no need?[20:49:20] <ringo32> if you have steam you can configure steam to use optirun[20:49:29] <ringo32> on certain games[20:49:49] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[20:49:49] <ringo32> is making a step but then it uses nvidia[20:50:12] <ringo32> Mayby can make a wiki how to do it with steam[20:50:19] <ringo32> just make starters whatever for games[20:50:30] <mike-zal> you know that not linux users are tech-masters? I never knew that I had hybrid gpu till recently. my laptop was just always showing nvidia sticker and I didn't know that most intels have gpu in it anyway[20:50:53] <ringo32> you dot need to be tech master.. you should find the right channels :)[20:51:15] <mike-zal> because of that I even messed my manjaro install once. installed nvidia driver and system didn't boot. didn't know I can use tty to find that...[20:51:37] <mike-zal> so I for a long time I though my nvidia card is used[20:52:37] <mike-zal> anyway, I finally learned how it works and can switch to nvidia when I need it, but that requires some digging and reading, while on windows it "just works". You don't have know any of this stuff.[20:53:13] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-58c037-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:53:45] <mike-zal> that makes windows easier. I don't mean it's easier in general, but some things are just developed for total tech idiots, things have to work automatically and you shouldn't have to learn about it to use it[20:54:30] <mike-zal> linux on the other hand requires more thought, so not all users can handle it.[20:54:52] <ringo32> you need to have open mind on certain level[20:55:05] <mike-zal> if I didn't, I wouldn't be using manjaro :P[20:55:37] <mike-zal> manjaro wiki is finally working again! yay! finally![20:56:36] *** xylobyte <xylobyte!~Mutter@24.114.92.79> has quit IRC (Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com)[20:56:57] <ringo32> Linux is not really user friendly for sure :)[20:57:02] *** Delviax13 <Delviax13!~delvia@ool-44c16817.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[20:57:07] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[20:57:17] *** xylobyte <xylobyte!~xylobyte@24.114.92.79> has joined #manjaro[20:57:21] <ringo32> importand is which you know people and use the knowledge of those[20:57:49] <ringo32> i dont use manjaro anymore :) but is all linux[20:58:21] <ringo32> is a bit configured as Xubuntu here with taskbar plugin[20:58:32] <ringo32> and xfce works nicely on my keybindings i set[21:01:21] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@46.197.149.93> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:01:47] *** glsmaxx__ <glsmaxx__!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:04:58] *** xylobyte <xylobyte!~xylobyte@24.114.92.79> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:06:57] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has joined #manjaro[21:07:58] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.225.139> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:09:01] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[21:09:37] *** Guest63837 <Guest63837!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[21:09:46] <ringo32> !!![21:09:51] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@157.122.148.149> has quit IRC (Quit: Nishikino-Maki)[21:10:28] *** Guest63837 is now known as SPF|Cloud[21:11:12] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-flgvelcdzwkcqiyc> has joined #manjaro[21:11:16] *** manjaro-kde <manjaro-kde!~manjaro-k@juv34-4-82-238-88-68.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:11:46] *** thenewone <thenewone!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has joined #manjaro[21:11:46] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v thenewone[21:13:25] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-172-137.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:13:33] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-172-137.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[21:14:55] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has left #manjaro ("Manjaro Strit is available at www.strits.dk!")[21:15:10] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@2a02:908:2f32:2960:5f6:ed65:68a2:6610> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:15:47] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[21:16:58] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[21:19:24] *** manjaro-web|4917 <manjaro-web|4917!2956195c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.41.86.25.92> has joined #manjaro[21:19:34] *** manjaro-web|4917 <manjaro-web|4917!2956195c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.41.86.25.92> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:22:39] *** thenewone1 <thenewone1!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has joined #manjaro[21:22:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v thenewone1[21:23:36] <ringo32> bla bla why do everyone hate me?[21:25:10] <mike-zal> because you're not using manjaro anyone ;x[21:25:12] <mike-zal> ;)[21:25:13] *** thenewone <thenewone!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[21:29:14] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:30:26] <thenewone1> i love you ringo32[21:30:40] <thenewone1> don't listen to other :D[21:33:29] <ringo32> http://imgur.com/a/RMgsE lol[21:33:30] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/6eor6Y] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[21:34:28] *** eizua <eizua!~eizua@112.204.3.221> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:35:09] <ringo32> i dont hate manjaro only one person :p mike-zal :p[21:36:05] <mike-zal> just one? you have to be saint ;)[21:36:17] <mike-zal> lot of people can get on your nerves[21:37:04] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has joined #manjaro[21:37:20] *** Delviax13 <Delviax13!~delvia@ool-44c16817.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[21:37:59] <ringo32> not lot people only one :p[21:39:05] <ringo32> if i hate then is just Pure hate :p like evil[21:40:19] <Jeannie> Talking about Gnome3?[21:41:41] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.38> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:41:43] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-172-137.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[21:43:23] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:43:55] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[21:45:29] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@ti0050a400-1869.bb.online.no> has joined #manjaro[21:45:45] *** manjaroi3 is now known as xirie[21:46:26] *** xirie <xirie!~manjaro-i@ti0050a400-1869.bb.online.no> has left #manjaro[21:49:26] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-12889.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:50:37] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@eduroam-24-13.eduroam.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> has joined #manjaro[21:51:29] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@eduroam-24-13.eduroam.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:54:02] *** phil <phil!5841bee1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.88.65.190.225> has joined #manjaro[21:54:29] *** phil is now known as Guest46620[21:54:42] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@ub-61-157.hirnport.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> has joined #manjaro[21:54:50] *** skulltus <skulltus!~skulltus@109.160.56.136> has joined #manjaro[21:59:27] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@ub-61-157.hirnport.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:59:55] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-083-120.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[22:00:24] <ringo32> Jeannie, no :p[22:00:30] <ringo32> artoo :p[22:00:38] <Jeannie> I see[22:01:17] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[22:01:51] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@cpe-76-84-41-206.neb.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[22:02:03] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@cpe-76-84-41-206.neb.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:02:12] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-216-012-020.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[22:03:24] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.57.74> has joined #manjaro[22:04:25] *** Nyek <Nyek!~holoirc@176.7.87.110> has joined #manjaro[22:04:40] <mike-zal> not a chance for love/hate relationship ;P?[22:05:10] *** Nyek <Nyek!~holoirc@176.7.87.110> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:05:47] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109.92.154.1> has joined #manjaro[22:05:54] <bolvary> Hi, I have installed lxde after my xfce install. Since lxde works much better, I would like to remove all xfce related stuff it is a good idea at all.[22:08:06] <bolvary> How can I do it?[22:08:47] <ringo32> pacman -Rs xfce4 xfce4-goodies ?[22:09:20] *** Guest46620 <Guest46620!5841bee1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.88.65.190.225> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[22:10:55] *** Cookiehunter <Cookiehunter!~cookiehun@host81-140-169-203.range81-140.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[22:10:57] *** nuno_nunes <nuno_nunes!~PC@bl19-239-197.dsl.telepac.pt> has joined #manjaro[22:11:30] *** nuno_nunes <nuno_nunes!~PC@bl19-239-197.dsl.telepac.pt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:13:13] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@84.19.166.52> has joined #manjaro[22:14:36] <bolvary> ringo32: How certain are you?[22:16:28] <ringo32> you must see offcourse what it removes offcourse[22:16:37] <ringo32> xfce4 and xfce4-goodies are package groups[22:17:13] *** manjaro-web|4346 <manjaro-web|4346!b457f52e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.180.87.245.46> has joined #manjaro[22:17:48] <manjaro-web|4346> Hi Guys, I have a lenovo laptop and it's not suspending, when I close the laptop lid, any solutions?[22:18:16] <manjaro-web|4346> I have configured it to suspend when lid is closed in "power manager"[22:18:33] <manjaro-web|4346> any help will be greate[22:19:01] *** skulltus <skulltus!~skulltus@109.160.56.136> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:23:18] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@84.19.166.52> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[22:23:59] <manjaro-web|4346> anyone?[22:24:08] <ringo32> i dont know which kernel ?[22:24:20] <ringo32> which desktop?[22:24:40] <manjaro-web|4346> Manjaro XFCE 4[22:24:49] <manjaro-web|4346> the lastest one, Daniella or somthing[22:24:55] <manjaro-web|4346> let me check the kernel[22:25:27] *** glsmaxx_ <glsmaxx_!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:25:27] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:25:38] <manjaro-web|4346> 4.4.13-1[22:26:05] <ringo32> pastebin : /etc/mkinitcpio.conf[22:26:26] <manjaro-web|4346> what should i change in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf[22:26:48] <ringo32> just pastbin current or line of hooks=[22:27:14] <manjaro-web|4346> what is pastbin[22:27:18] <manjaro-web|4346> sorry i am a noob[22:27:48] <ringo32> is a service like pastebin.com[22:27:59] <ringo32> you can send large text[22:28:03] <ringo32> into a service[22:28:12] <ringo32> does not spoil the channel[22:28:13] <ringo32> :)[22:28:44] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@p200300668E3FF1DB72672B156C22847A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[22:29:09] <Cookiehunter> basically what you have in that conf file you paste it on that website and it creates a file that ppl can view here. that way you don`t have to spam the chat with all those lines just with that link and we can view it :)[22:29:51] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:30:04] <manjaro-web|4346> well Thanks, I am doing that right away[22:30:08] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@p200300668E3FF1DB72672B156C22847A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:30:23] <ringo32> is just guessing but mayby is something forgoth is bad to change asap :)[22:30:28] *** ggr <ggr!~ggr@143-122-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: byezzz)[22:31:40] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:31:54] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[22:34:09] <manjaro-web|4346> i just pasted the conf file content in pastebin.com, title is "Manjaro lid issue"[22:35:31] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~ben@212095007101.public.telering.at> has joined #manjaro[22:35:37] <Jeannie> Usually pastebin creates a link that you can post here[22:36:10] <manjaro-web|4346> i dont see any thing, where i can share a link, but may be i need to log in[22:36:40] <Kranix> Just paste the URL from the adress bar.[22:36:52] <manjaro-web|4346> http://pastebin.com/fTnFmdbE[22:36:53] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/EXyPja] Manjaro lid issue - Pastebin.com[22:37:01] <bennypr0fane> Hi, my Manjaro isn't booting anymore, it freezes at the splash screen. I can get into the files though from Debian installed on the same system. Do you see a way to fox this without a reinstall?[22:37:10] <bennypr0fane> *fix[22:37:53] <Jeannie> Yay, the benefits of plymouth and quite boot[22:37:56] <Jeannie> quiet[22:38:16] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@ub-61-157.hirnport.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> has joined #manjaro[22:39:59] <manjaro-web|4346> do i need to change anything in there?[22:41:47] <ringo32> bennypr0fane, nonfree ?[22:42:20] <ringo32> manjaro-web|4346, currently i compare with my own , my resume is in other place but i think its notthe point..[22:42:32] <ringo32> you on xfce tyou can try something out for XFCE to begin?[22:43:33] <ringo32> manjaro-web|4346, go to xfce4-setting[22:43:39] <ringo32> settings you find xfconf[22:43:44] <ringo32> found it?[22:44:00] <manjaro-web|4346> let me check[22:44:16] *** bolvary <bolvary!~Thunderbi@adsl-62-167-57-4.adslplus.ch> has quit IRC (Quit: bolvary)[22:44:50] <manjaro-web|4346> yes[22:44:54] <manjaro-web|4346> i am in xconf[22:45:41] <ringo32> go to xfce4-power-manager[22:45:54] <manjaro-web|4346> i m in there[22:45:56] <ringo32> there you see something aboud lid?N[22:46:18] <manjaro-web|4346> lid-action-on-battery is set to 1[22:46:41] <manjaro-web|4346> lid-action-on-ac is also set to 1[22:46:45] <ringo32> ommm make that a 0 , just to try[22:47:20] <ringo32> nothing with logind ?[22:47:30] <ringo32> as https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xfce#Laptop_lid_settings_ignored[22:47:31] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/z41udI] Xfce - ArchWiki[22:47:33] <manjaro-web|4346> let me check[22:48:28] <bennypr0fane> ringo32, I don't understand the question. do you mean if I had non-free repos activated?[22:48:44] <ringo32> which video driver do you use,[22:48:45] <ringo32> ?[22:49:00] <ringo32> free (opensource) or closed[22:49:26] <bennypr0fane> free[22:49:30] <manjaro-web|4346> xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /xfce4-power-manager/logind-handle-lid-switch -s false[22:49:35] <manjaro-web|4346> worked like a champ man[22:49:39] <manjaro-web|4346> it's supending now[22:49:41] <Cookiehunter> nn everyone :)[22:49:42] <bennypr0fane> ringo32, I have IntelHD graphics[22:49:46] <manjaro-web|4346> wow[22:49:48] <ringo32> hah[22:49:51] <Kdax> hello mates, what is the shortcut in xfce to start the terminal?[22:49:54] <manjaro-web|4346> Thanks everyone for help[22:50:01] <ringo32> manjaro-web|4346, you welcome[22:50:01] <manjaro-web|4346> ringo32: +1[22:50:02] <Kdax> alt+t?[22:50:05] *** Cookiehunter <Cookiehunter!~cookiehun@host81-140-169-203.range81-140.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:50:28] <bennypr0fane> Kdax, I don't think there is one by default. You have to set it[22:50:45] <Kdax> Ok.[22:50:47] <ringo32> there are two way to come intoo manjaro[22:51:04] <ringo32> by grub intoo tty or use a live USB and chroot intoo it[22:51:19] <ringo32> chroot is taking control over the system by usb[22:51:34] <bennypr0fane> ringo32, how do I start tty from grub?[22:51:39] <manjaro-web|4346> who me?[22:51:44] <Kdax> but where can i set it? ;)[22:51:47] <ringo32> no, bennypr0fane :)[22:52:12] <manjaro-web|4346> sorry, did not sroll, though the question is for me, please ignore[22:53:19] *** GenZai <GenZai!~emil@mnt60-1-88-186-66-2.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:53:22] <ringo32> bennypr0fane, is easier to do a livecd[22:53:44] <bennypr0fane> kdax, https://duckduckgo.com/?q=xfce+keyboard+shortcuts&t=ffsb&ia=web second result...[22:53:44] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/ePYVGo] xfce keyboard shortcuts at DuckDuckGo[22:53:47] *** manjaro-web|4346 <manjaro-web|4346!b457f52e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.180.87.245.46> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[22:54:06] <ringo32> hum..??? who got blackscreen?[22:54:13] <ringo32> now i am feeling drunk somehow[22:54:36] <bennypr0fane> ringo32, Linux installed on the same system won't do the trick? I absolutely need a live usb?[22:54:56] *** sydney_u1tangle <sydney_u1tangle!~sydney@supertux/sydney> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:55:12] <ringo32> is easier but you must edit some grub line[22:55:34] <bennypr0fane> whatever you say. so what do I do?[22:55:45] *** sydney_untangle <sydney_untangle!~sydney@supertux/sydney> has joined #manjaro[22:56:37] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[22:56:50] <bennypr0fane> or rather, how exactly?[22:57:18] <bennypr0fane> ringo32, you think my bootloader is broken?[22:57:30] <ringo32> no[22:57:59] <ringo32> in my bootloader it tells how to do but i cant remember exact how :p[23:00:08] <bennypr0fane> then why do you think I not to edit grub?[23:00:33] *** zoon <zoon!~zoon@96.56.232.211> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[23:01:50] <bennypr0fane> *I need to[23:02:15] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@ub-61-157.hirnport.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[23:03:05] <ringo32> i lost what need to edit , it can boot in TTY in once[23:03:32] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@ub-61-157.hirnport.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> has joined #manjaro[23:04:03] <Kdax> sry my internet connection broke[23:04:29] <Kdax> does anyone know where i can set a shortcut for my terminal?[23:04:37] *** lifernux <lifernux!~quassel@192.85-87-24.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es> has joined #manjaro[23:05:17] <ringo32> Kdax, xfce?[23:06:00] <Kdax> yes[23:06:19] *** lifernux <lifernux!~quassel@192.85-87-24.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:06:32] <bennypr0fane> Kdax, I already gave you a link[23:06:52] <ringo32> Kdax, in xfce4-settings keyboard settings[23:07:13] <ringo32> bennypr0fane, if you are in grub this told in my grub theme :[23:07:15] <ringo32> For Non-Graphical Boot: Add systemd.unit=multi-user.target to the kernel command line[23:07:30] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[23:07:37] <ringo32> then it load directly intoo TTy[23:07:43] <bennypr0fane> ringo32, "the kernel command line" what's that?[23:07:57] <bennypr0fane> and once it's booted, what do I do?[23:08:14] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has joined #manjaro[23:08:51] <ringo32> thats another story also, hemm you can peak intoo logs, as mayby install another kernel, but i gues, checking commands like :[23:08:57] <ringo32> mhwd-gpu --check[23:09:13] <ringo32> mhwd-gpu --status if no really flaws or error[23:09:26] <ringo32> you can do always sudo mhwd-gpu --setgl mesa[23:10:20] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.38> has joined #manjaro[23:10:41] <ringo32> but running intoo livecd is easier because you have an GUI to handle some[23:10:49] <ringo32> so you can contact irc alltime[23:12:02] *** tripped <tripped!~trip@user-36c5b4e.cable.mindspring.com> has joined #manjaro[23:12:21] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@94.249.112.128> has joined #manjaro[23:12:55] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Quit: back to home planet weechat 1.5)[23:13:08] <Kdax> bennypr0fane thx[23:13:21] <Kdax> ringo32 thanks too[23:14:29] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109.92.154.1> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:15:19] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[23:16:22] *** lifernux <lifernux!~quassel@192.85-87-24.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es> has joined #manjaro[23:16:56] <bennypr0fane> Kdax, yw[23:17:55] <bennypr0fane> alright live usb it is then[23:18:30] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[23:18:33] <ringo32> livecd chroot is nice :)[23:20:03] <bennypr0fane> but it did boot ok a few times. I don't get why i twould suddenly stop working. I dind't change kernel or graphicws driver or anyhting[23:20:09] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@122.162.4.126> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:20:20] <bennypr0fane> but how does the chroot thing work?[23:20:55] <thenewone1> bennypr0fane, when you boot from the usb you mount the partitions and you chroot[23:20:56] <bennypr0fane> I mean how do I get in?[23:21:06] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[23:21:20] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[23:21:30] <bennypr0fane> how exactly do I chroot?[23:21:53] <thenewone1> i wish i could type all but my game start now[23:22:04] <thenewone1> who play league of legends euw ?[23:22:19] <thenewone1> bennypr0fane, one s[23:23:03] <bennypr0fane> thenewone1, ?[23:23:09] <mike-zal> bennypr0fane: there should be artickle on manjaro wiki about chroot[23:23:13] <thenewone1> bennypr0fane, i said wait plz :D[23:23:27] <mike-zal> bennypr0fane: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Restore_the_GRUB_Bootloader[23:23:28] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/EzpPEI] Restore the GRUB Bootloader - Manjaro Linux[23:23:41] <bennypr0fane> thenewone1, oh.[23:23:54] <mike-zal> bennypr0fane: if you'r system won't boot for example because you installed wrong driver, it won't help[23:24:13] <mike-zal> you must identify what's wrong[23:24:13] <thenewone1> bennypr0fane, looking for a simple video to follow[23:24:40] <mike-zal> that is why someone adviced you to turn off quite boot to see boot messages to see at what point boot stops[23:24:44] <thenewone1> bennypr0fane, this man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8DsR1P7cbQ explain in more details but the video verry long[23:24:45] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/Y5kPpj] 350 - Fix Your Broken Linux with chroot - YouTube[23:24:49] <thenewone1> brb[23:25:40] <mike-zal> bennypr0fane: if your grub starts and system just freezes during boot, then grub is fine[23:26:05] <mike-zal> only GPU or some other system parts are somehow malfunctioning[23:26:14] <bennypr0fane> mike-zal, ah, that might be a good idea. I wouldn't pursue the wrong driver path first, I don't think that's the problem[23:26:21] <mike-zal> usually GPU is the cause[23:26:47] <mike-zal> what did you do before the issue?[23:26:57] <bennypr0fane> ok then, to turn off quiet boot, I need to use chroot?[23:27:03] <mike-zal> system rarely doesn't boot just by itself[23:27:30] <mike-zal> no, chroot is for restoring grub or installing things if you have no access to tty[23:27:46] <bennypr0fane> mike-zal, wouldn't we always like to know that :-P Except I don't remember...[23:27:57] <bennypr0fane> ok, so no chroot necessary[23:28:12] <mike-zal> bennypr0fane: do you have home on another partition?[23:28:27] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[23:28:27] <bennypr0fane> no[23:28:31] <bennypr0fane> same[23:31:22] <mike-zal> if you have home on another parition you can reinstall system and your settings and files (but not programs) will be unharmed. also settings of the old programs will be there once you install them again.[23:31:54] <bennypr0fane> that kinda never worked for me[23:32:15] <mike-zal> I'm telling that, because sometimes it's quicker to do reinstall. the best way would be to find and fix solution but you might not know linux enough to do it at the moment[23:32:47] <ringo32> i use always chroot :p[23:32:49] <mike-zal> it should. backup home and settings will work, at least if you have the same system and DE[23:33:04] <mike-zal> ringo32: you know how to do it. for a newbie it's pain in the ass.[23:33:36] <ringo32> you have atleast a GUI to contact also IRC[23:33:46] <bennypr0fane> mike-zal, I'd prefer to try the non-reinstallation first[23:33:48] <ringo32> you can go from grub to Console[23:33:56] <ringo32> but then .. :)[23:34:01] <bennypr0fane> I can also go on IRC from my laptop[23:34:09] <dodgejcr> morning[23:34:12] <mike-zal> bennypr0fane: then again, you need to check what's wrong and watch boot messages[23:34:12] *** Kdax1 <Kdax1!~kdax@eduroam-24-13.eduroam.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> has joined #manjaro[23:34:24] <ringo32> after boot putting escape should disable the plymouth[23:34:45] <ringo32> but i gues you are now in another partition?[23:34:46] <mike-zal> so turn off silent boot (f12?) and see where the things goes wrong[23:35:02] <mike-zal> or escape, don't remeber exactly[23:35:08] <bennypr0fane> yes,I'll try that[23:35:16] <bennypr0fane> F12 or Esc?[23:35:21] <mike-zal> then google or come here with your findings[23:35:29] <mike-zal> try... :P[23:35:31] <ringo32> if you are now on a second partition with debian on same machine you can look up for the logs[23:37:24] *** Kdax <Kdax!~kdax@ub-61-157.hirnport.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[23:39:14] <bennypr0fane> ringo32, dmesg logs?[23:39:24] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!wmedrano@nat/google/x-lzkygukwqllnlevp> has joined #manjaro[23:40:52] <ringo32> xorg.log ?[23:40:59] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:41:52] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[23:42:15] <mike-zal> too many longs from too many system parts, it's confusing. I always google it, can't learn it...[23:42:49] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[23:43:23] *** Zipristin <Zipristin!~manjaro-k@160.red-79-144-73.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[23:43:33] <bennypr0fane> so this is dmesg: http://pastie.org/private/tme2x5457fzcoetbttbauq[23:43:34] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/8lNx5l] Private Paste - Pastie[23:44:27] <Zipristin> Hi, any mpv user here? someone knows if there is a keybinding to disable osc?[23:45:30] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:45:36] <bennypr0fane> here's xorg.log: http://pastie.org/private/krlibkp84jndngcdrhnndg[23:45:37] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/GgEqXJ] Private Paste - Pastie[23:45:56] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has joined #manjaro[23:46:45] <bennypr0fane> problematic part should probably near the end of the file, yes?[23:46:47] *** lifernux <lifernux!~quassel@192.85-87-24.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:46:57] *** johnblood <johnblood!~manjaro-b@ppp-69-214-2-6.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net> has joined #manjaro[23:47:16] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:48:03] <bennypr0fane> I don't see anthing there that looks like an error message, but than again, I have no clue...[23:48:30] <mtn> bennypr0fane: how far does the boot up go? what is the last thing you see?[23:48:38] <bennypr0fane> mike-zal, what exactly would you googel for?[23:48:43] *** Kdax1 <Kdax1!~kdax@eduroam-24-13.eduroam.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:48:59] <bennypr0fane> mtn, the last thing I see where?[23:49:10] <mtn> bennypr0fane: uh, on the screen[23:49:22] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@122.162.4.126> has joined #manjaro[23:49:27] <bennypr0fane> mtn, the boot splash[23:49:38] <mtn> bennypr0fane: ok, and it just stays there?[23:49:44] <mike-zal> bennypr0fane: for a proper log, where to find it. in this case boot log[23:49:44] <bennypr0fane> yes, frozen[23:50:04] <mtn> bennypr0fane: do you see a grub menu when the computer boots?[23:50:06] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!wmedrano@nat/google/x-lzkygukwqllnlevp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[23:50:10] <bennypr0fane> mtn, yes[23:50:25] <bennypr0fane> I am also able to choose other boot options from grub[23:50:38] <mtn> bennypr0fane: edit the kernel line and remove quiet and splash. then you should see how far it boots and what errors if any[23:50:39] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffac> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:50:43] <bennypr0fane> I tried initram fallback boot option, same result[23:50:59] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Quit: bbl)[23:51:12] <bennypr0fane> mtn, how can I edit the kernel line?[23:51:35] <mtn> bennypr0fane: in grub menu, look down at the bottom. hit e to edit[23:52:11] <bennypr0fane> mtn, ok. does it say there what exactly to remove from the line?[23:52:28] <mtn> bennypr0fane: I just told you what to remove[23:53:17] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[23:53:30] <mtn> bennypr0fane: this change is not permanent, so it can't hurt anything[23:54:04] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:54:08] <bennypr0fane> mtn, yes, but I don't know yet what exactly that looks like in the line. if it's something like "quiet boot" and "splash", I'll know, If it's something like "ljasgu" and "klk-tkx", I won't.[23:54:25] <mtn> bennypr0fane: what language is it in? english?[23:55:52] <mike-zal> is it just easier to use esc or f12?[23:56:15] <bennypr0fane> mtn, basically, English, but you know how sometimes configuration options are not in any natural language at al... I don't know if that's the case here or not, but I'm about to go find out ;-) brb![23:56:36] <mtn> bennypr0fane: in this case it is "quiet" and "splash". just plain english[23:56:46] <bennypr0fane> mtn thnaks, good to know[23:57:26] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~ben@212095007101.public.telering.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:59:37] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)