July 17, 2016 
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July 17, 2016 [00:00:00] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@86.108.119.69> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:00:08] *** manjaro-web|3029 <manjaro-web|3029!44e50339@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.229.3.57> has joined #manjaro[00:00:59] *** fradd <fradd!~fradd@unaffiliated/fradd> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[00:01:01] *** manjaro-web|3029 <manjaro-web|3029!44e50339@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.229.3.57> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:01:06] <manjaro-jwm> hi[00:01:08] *** fraddd is now known as fradd[00:01:14] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has left #manjaro[00:01:16] *** fradd <fradd!~fradd@136.200.91.92.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:01:16] *** fradd <fradd!~fradd@unaffiliated/fradd> has joined #manjaro[00:01:48] *** manjaro-darkstar <manjaro-darkstar!54369ed3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.84.54.158.211> has joined #manjaro[00:02:21] <manjaro-darkstar> hey guys can someone help me install ATI driver> how do i do it?[00:04:13] <manjaro-darkstar> lspci autput: VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Broadway XT [Mobility Radeon HD 5870][00:04:59] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-95-94.nt.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:05:12] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.49.127> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[00:05:17] <Jeannie> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Configure_Graphics_Cards[00:05:18] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/iXuLaS] Configure Graphics Cards - Manjaro Linux[00:05:29] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@189-69-67-68.dsl.telesp.net.br> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:05:53] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-95-94.nt.net> has joined #manjaro[00:09:58] *** will_sm <will_sm!~will-medr@c-174-62-107-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[00:12:30] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[00:13:25] <someuser77> on KDE, firefox got dark borders around the locationbar and searchbar. how to remedy?[00:13:39] *** yokel <yokel!~yokel@unaffiliated/contempt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[00:13:46] *** genpaku <genpaku!~genpaku@107.191.100.185> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[00:14:16] *** genpaku <genpaku!~genpaku@107.191.100.185> has joined #manjaro[00:14:18] *** yokel <yokel!~yokel@unaffiliated/contempt> has joined #manjaro[00:14:43] <Jeannie> There's a firefox-kde available[00:15:45] <someuser77> its in use it seems[00:17:44] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.12.188> has joined #manjaro[00:19:02] *** walle303 <walle303!~walle303@pisg/dev/walle303> has quit IRC (Quit: Disconnected)[00:19:08] *** n4cht <n4cht!~quassel@pool-71-244-233-243.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[00:20:04] *** n4cht <n4cht!~quassel@pool-71-244-233-243.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[00:21:25] <w30> someuser77, `try a different addon theme[00:21:54] <someuser77> w30 istalled arc theme, look good enough[00:21:58] *** not_dammit <not_dammit!~manjaro-k@bas2-toronto61-2925079864.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[00:22:44] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[00:23:38] *** walle303 <walle303!~walle303@pisg/dev/walle303> has joined #manjaro[00:23:46] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[00:24:33] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-092-076-215-066.092.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:25:21] *** fennectech <fennectech!~fennectec@68-112-153-64.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[00:25:36] <fennectech> hello[00:25:42] <fennectech> im looking to get help with a modem[00:25:52] <fennectech> i need to find a internal laptop modem that will worrk in linux[00:27:57] <someuser77> whats whith the system monitor labels in the panel? no way to remove them?[00:28:14] *** manjMate-user <manjMate-user!~manjaro-m@27.123.171.110> has joined #manjaro[00:29:12] <fennectech> right click then and uncheck *lock to panel*[00:31:11] *** bugzbunny <bugzbunny!~bugzbunny@d4.7b.39a9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com> has joined #manjaro[00:31:18] *** HoNgOuRu <HoNgOuRu!~fenix@r167-57-87-240.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:32:27] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@88-104-231-75.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com> has joined #manjaro[00:32:40] *** manjMate-user <manjMate-user!~manjaro-m@27.123.171.110> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:34:01] <someuser77> fennectech: i dont see that option[00:35:28] <fennectech> what DE you using[00:35:42] <someuser77> KDE[00:36:11] <someuser77> forgot to mention sorry[00:36:34] <fennectech> right click the little semi circle at the end of the panel and edit the panel[00:36:43] <fennectech> then just remove the objects you dont want C:[00:39:22] <someuser77> fennectech: there is no circle and right clicking at the last symbol brings up the menu for the panel[00:39:59] <someuser77> i wnat to get rid of the labels of the cpu and network widgets that i have placed inside the panel[00:40:32] <fennectech> ohhhh the lables[00:40:47] <fennectech> i dunno :/[00:41:21] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.49.127> has joined #manjaro[00:42:00] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:42:20] <someuser77> KDE has myriad of options but sometimes the most simple and logical options are missing[00:42:33] <fennectech> its been years since i used kde[00:42:35] <fennectech> i perfer mate[00:43:04] <someuser77> i like mate too[00:43:16] <Jeannie> MATE, soon ruined by a Gnome tooklit on a computer near you[00:44:23] <someuser77> i dont like kde normally, but i want a DE that is evoliving, hteres only kde and cinnamon[00:44:29] <someuser77> the rest seem to do nothing[00:44:35] <Jeannie> They work...[00:44:48] <someuser77> sure, but its a bit boring[00:45:04] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@92.57.69.219> has joined #manjaro[00:45:04] <Jeannie> Reliability can be boring, yes[00:45:43] *** manjaro-kde5- is now known as manjaro-kde5__[00:46:10] <fennectech> mate has made the jump to gtk3 without destroying the usability[00:46:28] * Jeannie looks at her MATE 1.14 GTK2 DE[00:46:53] *** jwmmanjuser <jwmmanjuser!~manjaro-j@172.red-88-18-30.staticip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[00:47:09] <someuser77> i always jump around[00:47:11] *** Ragdoll <Ragdoll!~Ragdoll@12.163.152.61> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:47:20] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@92.57.69.219> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:47:26] <someuser77> mate was the best all around i found[00:47:48] <someuser77> i checked cinnamon again, and this time its really good[00:48:01] <someuser77> before it had little issues i didnt like[00:48:14] <day|flip> I been getting my ass on working finishing my theme. I'm on the last part. sddm theme.... about bloody time i got here[00:48:24] *** Guest55182 <Guest55182!~GimmeMyMo@113.59.209.205> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:48:28] <Jeannie> I use CInnamon on one of my systems, it always feels one step more complicated to use than MATE[00:48:49] <day|flip> and I find xfce harder to used[00:48:57] *** jwmmanjuser <jwmmanjuser!~manjaro-j@172.red-88-18-30.staticip.rima-tde.net> has left #manjaro[00:49:07] <Jeannie> I hate xfce[00:49:15] <fennectech> ive used mate since 8.04[00:49:20] <fennectech> well gnome3[00:49:21] <someuser77> i think xfce mate and cinnamon are all very straight forward[00:49:23] <fennectech> 2*[00:49:24] <johnblood> I'm trying out budgie[00:49:36] <day|flip> .... wait... 8.04 ubuntu??????????????????[00:49:43] <day|flip> that will be gnome 2[00:50:03] <someuser77> cinnamon is just more modern[00:50:09] <fennectech> yeah that was YEARS ago[00:50:13] <fennectech> back when ubuntu was good[00:50:15] <Jeannie> Hehe, I started with Gnome2 in Ubuntu 7.10[00:50:45] <day|flip> i started with kde opensuse 11.0 then move to ubuntu 8.04 for more stable to used[00:50:49] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@187.152.142.200> has joined #manjaro[00:51:15] <Jeannie> 10.10 was the best Ubuntu imho[00:51:16] <someuser77> i always found kde to be the most unstable of the des i tried[00:51:18] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[00:51:20] <day|flip> i did not like 9.04.. went with F12 when that happen[00:51:27] <manjaro-kde5-> hello guys, one question[00:51:30] <fennectech> i left after maverick and just bounced arround for four or five years[00:51:41] <fennectech> then hit arch and knew it was the one[00:51:48] <fennectech> but the toxic community forced me out[00:51:57] <Jeannie> I abandoned Ubuntu immediately after I upgraded to 11.04[00:52:15] <fennectech> so i tried antergos then manjaro[00:52:20] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP140-04-1279467076.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:52:21] <johnblood> got a question about old amd chips[00:52:28] *** manjaro-web|2953 <manjaro-web|2953!b2991f98@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.178.153.31.152> has joined #manjaro[00:52:34] <day|flip> like how old?[00:52:38] <Jeannie> CPU or GPU?[00:52:40] <johnblood> I've got a hp nx6325 and want to upgrade the cpu[00:52:41] <someuser77> i dont mind unity, it just dont give me enough flexibility[00:52:59] <day|flip> my amd cpu is old but work wonders[00:53:12] <manjaro-kde5-> how can I know if mi installation is stuck or still working? It have been passed almost an hour in the operation bootloader[00:53:14] <johnblood> I've got a AMD sempron 3400+[00:53:26] <manjaro-kde5-> 88% and it does not moves[00:53:27] <fennectech> ive got in intel 8088 machine i want to run manjaro on[00:53:35] <day|flip> AMD Phenom II X4 965 @ 4x 3.4GHz[00:53:37] <fennectech> 12 mhz[00:53:43] <fennectech> or was it 8[00:53:48] <fennectech> (ibm 5170[00:53:49] <johnblood> and according to the HP manual it can take an AMD Turino 64 ML-60[00:53:50] <day|flip> that chip was before the bulldoser[00:54:01] *** manjaro-web|2953 <manjaro-web|2953!b2991f98@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.178.153.31.152> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:54:14] <johnblood> However, I cant find any of those chips on ebay.[00:54:46] <someuser77> i got a x6 flying around[00:54:50] <johnblood> I search and found the same laptop on newegg with a AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-50[00:55:14] <johnblood> My question is what is the difference between a ml-60 and a tl-50[00:55:45] <johnblood> do the tl-series fit in the nx6325 even though they are not listed in the manual[00:55:57] <vexare> uhm[00:56:10] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP140-04-1279467076.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[00:56:18] <fennectech> could manjaro fit in 1024 kbytes of ram?[00:56:20] <vexare> you can't upgrade that kind of laptops[00:56:47] <fennectech> even in a net edition[00:56:52] <fennectech> or hell just an initramfs[00:57:23] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zqdwwpnxdtlsadrc> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[00:58:00] <vexare> it's also such an laptop that a netbook outperforms it[00:58:03] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!)[00:58:10] <vexare> an old*[00:58:43] <someuser77> does the mate package load the whole thing with themes and all or just a vanilla mate?[00:58:55] <Jeannie> Just the basic DE[00:59:10] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:59:13] <fennectech> you get mate-themes has all the themes[00:59:17] <Jeannie> There's another package, calles mate-extra[00:59:21] <Jeannie> called even[00:59:22] <fennectech> and mate-extra for the stuff[00:59:32] <fennectech> theres mate-applets for tons of panel applets[00:59:39] <someuser77> is ther a meta package that gets me all the stuff?[00:59:57] <fennectech> nah just get all four packages and youll get everything[01:00:10] <fennectech> mate mate-themes mate-extra mate-plugins[01:00:19] <vexare> this is not ubuntu lol[01:00:53] <fennectech> at least your not asking why we dont have a persistance file and telling us we should make it lol[01:00:58] <someuser77> but its not set up like it would be on a fresh iso, is it?[01:01:15] <fennectech> the mate community iso can be buggy[01:01:18] <fennectech> avoid it[01:01:37] <fennectech> just get the xfce version (or net if you can manage it)[01:01:45] <fennectech> and install mate via terminal[01:01:55] <Jeannie> I strongly recommend not to mix DEs[01:02:13] <Jeannie> Not even if ou want to replace one with another one[01:02:44] <fennectech> as long as you get rid of all the packages ittl all work fine[01:02:58] <Jeannie> I mae other experiences[01:03:09] <someuser77> i made both[01:03:09] <fennectech> all that happens is there are conf files and bits and bobs left over that wont hurt anything[01:03:29] <bugzbunny> KDE has issues that seem to never get fix....[01:03:42] * bugzbunny sticks with KDE for now[01:03:42] <fennectech> the important thing is to rm -rf .config when you change de's[01:04:06] <fennectech> thats where your issues will crop up[01:04:10] *** Ancient_ <Ancient_!~Ancient__@178.151.195.157> has joined #manjaro[01:04:32] <bugzbunny> Runs Mate and KDE at the same time, thus far, no apparent issues, except for .config/autostart[01:04:37] <d42> as long as you don't care about configs for everything else :v[01:05:00] <fennectech> yeah[01:05:04] <fennectech> ;v[01:05:07] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[01:05:24] <someuser77> manjaro got the fastes kde jet[01:05:24] <fennectech> i often just remove everything but my applications in my dir[01:05:57] <someuser77> what i always hated about kde since 4 was the slow boot[01:06:28] <someuser77> but now its as fast as cinnamon mint[01:07:14] <Jeannie> My last KDE test install took about 25 seconds to boot[01:07:33] <someuser77> it takes 11 here[01:08:07] <someuser77> normaly there is the post screen which takes those extra 10 seconds[01:08:11] <someuser77> but its no more[01:08:16] *** jirido <jirido!~jirido@mobile-access-bcee3e-97.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[01:08:20] <Jeannie> And I felt completely lost in configuration under Plasma5[01:08:40] <Ancient_> Build kerned week ago[01:08:43] <Ancient_> Works great[01:08:45] <Ancient_> *kernel[01:08:45] <someuser77> there are tons of options[01:08:53] <Ancient_> 4.6.3, from kernel.org[01:09:24] <someuser77> its definetly not as easy to use as other des[01:09:59] <someuser77> its the most feature ritch de though[01:10:03] <fennectech> config files are scarey[01:10:57] <someuser77> i just dont like whole library thing wher you got kde and gnome dependencies[01:11:18] <someuser77> and that the visuals are not compatible[01:12:36] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@187.152.142.200> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:14:46] <someuser77> i dont care too much about most kde apps themselves, btu dophin is a really good file manager[01:15:39] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@88-104-231-75.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:18:18] <Jeannie> And KMail is the most horrible mail application ever[01:19:11] <someuser77> thats true[01:19:59] <d42> it's pretty good if it works[01:20:06] <someuser77> if[01:20:15] <bugzbunny> lol @ KMail?[01:20:16] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[01:20:16] <d42> i have one mailbox that makes it unusable ,_,[01:20:32] <someuser77> i remember the setup was unusually complicated[01:20:39] <bugzbunny> I've tried KMail in the past, can't say I was impress, but I am trying again now[01:20:58] <bugzbunny> So far so good except for it doesn't pull my INBOX folder[01:21:02] <d42> it is a bit more complicated[01:21:02] <bugzbunny> sooooo....[01:21:26] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!)[01:21:39] <someuser77> there was also that keyring thing that you had to do[01:21:52] <bugzbunny> Thunderbird is TOO big and ClawMail, aside from not having IMAP IDLE support, has been working very well for me for quite awhile[01:22:29] <someuser77> too big?[01:22:49] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[01:23:15] *** brenton32839 <brenton32839!~brenton@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:23:19] <bugzbunny> Yup, Thunderbird is heavy handed when you just need an E-Mail client[01:23:36] <bugzbunny> ClawMail, is about ~10mb of Ram Usage[01:23:52] <bugzbunny> Package size is perhaps the same size[01:23:58] <someuser77> so you talk about ram[01:24:15] <bugzbunny> Package size, Ram Usage, and it being bloated[01:24:32] <Jeannie> My claws-mail currently uses 59,1 MB[01:24:37] <someuser77> i never really notice. 16gb for so many years, still no upgrade needed[01:24:54] <bugzbunny> In ram?[01:25:13] <bugzbunny> How E-Mail mailboxes do you have and how many E-Mail messages?[01:25:43] <Jeannie> 2 Mailboxes with a lot of mails inside[01:25:53] *** fradd <fradd!~fradd@unaffiliated/fradd> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:26:04] <someuser77> ram is not always comparable, if you have more ram, more will be used[01:26:19] <Jeannie> I have lots of ram actually[01:26:20] <someuser77> also, free ram is useless ram[01:26:22] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.49.127> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[01:26:45] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:26:56] <someuser77> thats why its taking more just in case[01:27:22] <bugzbunny> Mine is at 26Mb, I have about 6 mail boxes, one mailbox has about 3,000 E-Mails[01:27:38] *** GenZai <GenZai!~emil@mnt60-1-88-186-66-2.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:27:44] <someuser77> you have 2 gigs ram?[01:27:55] <bugzbunny> someuser77: For Linux Kernel, of course, Linux Kernel will typically use all your ram possible[01:28:12] <bugzbunny> Me? I have 8Gb[01:28:28] <bugzbunny> I really want 32GB but that's for some other time[01:28:36] *** NaoTix <NaoTix!~NaoTix@176.139.185.179> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[01:28:51] <someuser77> i just run out of ram in after effecs[01:28:58] <someuser77> t[01:29:10] <fennectech> id be happy with 8 gigs[01:29:22] <fennectech> ive run with 4 (and thats extremely painful)[01:29:41] <someuser77> but with linux its enough for most things[01:30:11] <bugzbunny> xD fennectech[01:30:23] <Ancient_> Nautilus is awesome :D[01:30:30] <bugzbunny> 8Gb is enough except, don't start Chrome[01:30:44] <bugzbunny> You keep Chrome/Chromium running, you will run out of memory[01:31:05] <someuser77> Ancient_: total commander >[01:31:13] <bugzbunny> Chrome/Chromium has use up to 7GB of memory on my system[01:31:15] <fennectech> i keep chromium running with 6 gb[01:31:25] *** Ancient_ <Ancient_!~Ancient__@178.151.195.157> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:31:29] <bugzbunny> fennectech: I thought you had 4Gb?[01:31:57] *** Ancient_ <Ancient_!~Ancient__@178.151.195.157> has joined #manjaro[01:32:04] *** Ancient_ <Ancient_!~Ancient__@178.151.195.157> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:32:07] <bugzbunny> Everyone has complained to the Chrome devs about this, they mark it as, WONTFIX[01:32:11] <bugzbunny> :([01:32:17] *** Ancient_ <Ancient_!~Ancient__@178.151.195.157> has joined #manjaro[01:32:38] <someuser77> if the ram is free, whats the problem?[01:32:45] <fennectech> ram is NOT free[01:32:52] <fennectech> and not even cheap[01:32:53] <bugzbunny> RIGHT!!![01:32:55] <someuser77> how can it take the ram then[01:33:01] <Jeannie> I have flagged chromium as "don't use" on my systems[01:33:08] <bugzbunny> lol @ Jeannie[01:33:21] <someuser77> not talking about price, availability[01:33:42] <Jeannie> And I have flagged all chromium clones as"don't use" too[01:33:47] <someuser77> good one[01:33:53] <bugzbunny> The problem really comes down to, when Chrome uses up all of your free ram, nothing is left for other applications[01:34:09] *** Ancient_ <Ancient_!~Ancient__@178.151.195.157> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:34:10] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@82-212-132-146.teledisnet.be> has joined #manjaro[01:34:19] <someuser77> if its noticable, then sure[01:34:34] <bugzbunny> Let me be blunt, when Chromium uses all you memory, in my instance, when you click on the KDE Launcher[01:34:39] <bugzbunny> Guess what HAPPENS[01:34:47] <bugzbunny> It has to pull data from SWAP[01:34:56] <bugzbunny> What is your user experience is like now?[01:35:24] <bugzbunny> I've been going back and forth with Chrome devs for months[01:35:34] <bugzbunny> Always, WONTFIX[01:35:45] <bugzbunny> It's to make it FASTER they say[01:35:48] <bugzbunny> Bullshit[01:35:55] <someuser77> just run the whole system from ram, smooth as butter :-)[01:36:23] <someuser77> use firefox then. thats what i use[01:36:52] <Jeannie> Trashed FF after they chromified the UI[01:37:50] <bugzbunny> FFx is done so much better with their memory management, except for, when you have tons of tabs open[01:37:57] <bugzbunny> There goes performance[01:38:21] <bugzbunny> But, I love my FFx extensions, and FFx syncs more information than Chrome[01:38:47] <Jeannie> Isn't mozilla about to break all extensions soon?[01:39:18] <someuser77> not all but yeah[01:39:43] <Jeannie> another step towards chromefox[01:39:56] <someuser77> most are already tailored to new[01:40:26] <someuser77> but at least theres still some fox[01:40:28] <Jeannie> "WebExtensions", largely chromium compatible[01:40:59] <someuser77> i trust mozilla more then any other still[01:41:29] *** jirido <jirido!~jirido@mobile-access-bcee3e-97.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:41:36] *** jirido <jirido!~jirido@mobile-access-bcee3e-97.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[01:41:40] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:41:44] <Jeannie> I lost all trust in motilla when I saw this[01:41:47] <Jeannie> https://air.mozilla.org/firefox-australis/[01:41:49] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/glrClx] Firefox Australis | Air Mozilla | Mozilla, in Video[01:41:53] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[01:42:03] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has joined #manjaro[01:42:38] <someuser77> what has this to to with trust?[01:42:52] <bugzbunny> yeah xD[01:42:54] <Jeannie> Look at these guys[01:42:57] <someuser77> they just changed the ui to something not so great[01:42:59] <Jeannie> Bouncing Unicorns[01:43:13] <Jeannie> "Streamlined tabs"[01:43:16] <Jeannie> Idiots[01:43:21] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:43:39] *** Ragdoll <Ragdoll!~Ragdoll@pool-108-36-111-20.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[01:43:39] <someuser77> the thing is, firefox is so customizeable, all easy to fix[01:43:40] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:43:53] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[01:43:54] <bugzbunny> Jeannie: Well, I am pretty sure FFx does a lot of research, if data says this is what users want[01:43:58] <bugzbunny> What's the problem?[01:44:03] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[01:44:03] <someuser77> you can still to this date have it all behave like oldschool ff[01:44:23] <bugzbunny> I admit, when FFx switch from 4, to Firefox 16-44 etc, to mimic Chrome[01:44:35] <bugzbunny> It was a bit of a, 'traitor'[01:44:38] <bugzbunny> But still..[01:44:39] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[01:45:05] *** johnblood <johnblood!~manjaro-b@ppp-69-214-2-47.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:45:09] <someuser77> ther was a ui changer extension from day one basically[01:45:26] <Jeannie> And if there was a tiny bit of trust in mozilla left here, I lost it when they introduced drm and webrtc[01:46:26] <someuser77> they were paid by google for many years anyway[01:46:37] *** manots <manots!~computer@24-217-91-243.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:46:52] <someuser77> but they are still more trustworthy[01:47:04] <someuser77> theres no alternative[01:47:21] <someuser77> opara had a good browser but closed source[01:47:22] *** ringo32 <ringo32!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye ALL#)[01:47:34] <Jeannie> I'm happy with PaleMoon[01:47:53] <someuser77> sure, but its jsut a fork[01:48:08] *** ok91 <ok91!~oleg@unaffiliated/ok91> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:48:31] <someuser77> you can also try waterfox[01:48:34] <Jeannie> No[01:48:39] <Jeannie> It uses the new UI[01:49:26] <Jeannie> And I'd rather use a cli browser than that Australis thing[01:49:29] <someuser77> change? die with fire![01:49:54] <Jeannie> If changes make things better or easier to use it's fine[01:50:21] <Jeannie> If they just change things for changes sake then the devs can keep their changes[01:50:48] <someuser77> i dont think its great either, but just install stylish and write some scripts or downlaod them and you can have everything like you want[01:51:41] <Jeannie> I have everything I want in palemoon, without scripts, stylish stuff from obsure sources or anything else[01:51:54] <someuser77> great then[01:52:23] <Jeannie> Indeed, sometimes things are so easy[01:52:27] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[01:53:55] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: mmh mmh bang bang boom boom pop pop)[01:56:49] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:57:19] *** tmsbrdrs 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No were done. It a good start. Plan not to have image box next to user name[02:36:19] <day|flip> http://i.imgur.com/AtZpkeC.jpg[02:36:20] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/N0I8Ay] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[02:40:33] *** jirido <jirido!~jirido@mobile-access-bcee3e-97.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[02:46:13] <bugzbunny> day|flip: What de do you have?[02:47:45] <day|flip> bugzbunny, what do you mean?[02:48:01] <day|flip> it just a screen shot of my test theme for sddm[02:48:19] <day|flip> browser is vivaldi-snapshot[02:50:21] <bugzbunny> Desktop Environment, looks like KDE[02:51:35] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[02:52:59] *** jirido <jirido!~jirido@mobile-access-bcee3e-97.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[02:58:34] *** HoNgOuRu <HoNgOuRu!~fenix@r167-57-87-240.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:02:46] *** Manj-811-Xfce2 <Manj-811-Xfce2!~rod@node-1w7jr9qo3o3i8wt5o4oa1uf1v.ipv6.telus.net> 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#manjaro[03:11:55] <day|flip> for me. that took a lot hard work[03:12:03] <bugzbunny> xD :)[03:13:24] <day|flip> Witch is why it going be for openrc lxqt editions[03:13:47] <day|flip> the them will be a in the manjaro repo. when the time comes[03:14:48] *** Matombo444 <Matombo444!~Matombo@p57A3E3B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[03:15:00] <bugzbunny> Good Good[03:16:11] *** jonas18175 <jonas18175!~manjaro-k@p5DC30F8E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:17:10] *** jonas18175 <jonas18175!~manjaro-k@pD9EA9B79.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[03:18:36] <day|flip> but this sddm theme is taking a lot longer. since it qml and qt quick. so i'm trying to figure out how to theme and learn about computer languages[03:18:37] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3E0EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[03:29:31] *** jonas18175 <jonas18175!~manjaro-k@pD9EA9B79.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 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*** manjaro-mate1512 <manjaro-mate1512!~manjaro-m@92-111-46-229.static.chello.nl> has joined #manjaro[04:01:16] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[04:01:52] <hisforever> what is Cinnamon in mam\njaro?[04:03:03] *** Mate-1512 <Mate-1512!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:04:05] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:08:00] *** SanzFC <SanzFC!~SanzFC@179.216.132.185> has joined #manjaro[04:09:54] *** SanzFC <SanzFC!~SanzFC@179.216.132.185> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:10:05] *** shambles07 <shambles07!~rob@c-50-178-83-159.hsd1.in.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[04:12:40] *** SanzFC <SanzFC!~SanzFC@179.216.132.185> has joined #manjaro[04:14:00] *** SanzFC <SanzFC!~SanzFC@179.216.132.185> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:16:05] *** Mate-1512 <Mate-1512!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has joined #manjaro[04:18:52] *** manjaro-mate1512 <manjaro-mate1512!~manjaro-m@92-111-46-229.static.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[04:21:02] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:22:05] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[04:26:36] *** SanzFC <SanzFC!~SanzFC@179.216.132.185> has joined #manjaro[04:27:18] <SanzFC> Hi[04:28:17] <alekzanther> Hey broski[04:28:45] <H-H-H> shame :([04:31:32] <SanzFC> Is Manjaro without packages updates for a long time or I have a problem?[04:33:47] *** eizua <eizua!~eizua@122.2.123.14> has joined #manjaro[04:35:25] <alekzanther> H-H-H, you are the shame of this channel[04:40:39] *** shambles07 <shambles07!~rob@c-50-178-83-159.hsd1.in.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[04:41:09] <SanzFC> I have no updates for a month... When I run pacman it returns only "nothing to do".[04:41:28] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[04:42:04] *** manots <manots!~computer@24-217-91-243.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[04:42:24] <H-H-H> lol alekzanther[04:43:19] <manots> oO[04:43:32] <manots> alekzanther: when did you get back from basic training?[04:44:22] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[04:44:45] <bugzbunny> check your internet connection alekzanther :)[04:44:49] <alekzanther> manots, just about a month ago[04:44:50] <bugzbunny> I have 4 updates today[04:45:13] <alekzanther> bugzbunny, you are scaring me[04:45:22] <alekzanther> what's with my internet connection?[04:45:40] <alekzanther> maybe you should check yours![04:45:41] <bugzbunny> I mean SanzFC[04:45:44] <bugzbunny> :-p[04:46:03] <alekzanther> oh[04:46:14] <manots> alekzanther: if you are looking for the regulars, the remnants have gathered at ##Freeosc[04:51:52] <SanzFC> I think can be a problem with pacman[04:52:44] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[04:54:20] *** jirido <jirido!~jirido@mobile-access-bcee3e-97.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[04:54:50] <SanzFC> Anyone have an idea to solve this?[04:55:12] <alekzanther> reboot[04:55:29] <alekzanther> no man, your problem description isn't perfect[04:55:33] <alekzanther> i don't know[04:55:45] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!)[04:56:42] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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<day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[05:58:29] *** SanzFC <SanzFC!~SanzFC@179.216.132.185> has left #manjaro ("Konversation terminated!")[05:59:03] *** LER0ever <LER0ever!~everette@49.72.189.243> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[05:59:50] *** LER0ever <LER0ever!~everette@49.73.246.38> has joined #manjaro[06:02:48] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[06:05:43] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[06:11:16] <day|flip> Sup batch[06:12:18] <day|flip> Batch, here my starting look and feel to my sddm theme. sddm is a DM.[06:12:20] <day|flip> http://i.imgur.com/AtZpkeC.jpg[06:12:20] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/N0I8Ay] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[06:12:33] <Batch> hi day|flip[06:12:39] <Batch> i'm good thankyou, you?[06:13:05] <Batch> wow looks cool[06:13:07] <day|flip> just had coffee. so im good and it 10pm at night[06:14:20] <day|flip> it must be morning over there[06:14:27] <Batch> it is :D[06:14:31] <Batch> 06:15[06:15:14] <Batch> i made some keyboard shortcuts to fix volume of audio and shortcuts for next and previous in clementime this night day|flip[06:15:25] <Batch> had some troubles with gst-plugins tho[06:15:31] <Batch> needed to force[06:15:52] <Batch> then i started play LFD2 and had some lag[06:16:00] <Batch> hope it isn't caused by the system[06:16:43] <day|flip> does steam need pulse?[06:16:44] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[06:17:12] <Batch> no, clementine wasn't working anymore[06:17:26] <Batch> local package db is a little messed up[06:17:31] <Batch> and ehm[06:18:06] <Batch> but gst-plugins interfere with some graphical drivers/apps/plugins[06:18:12] <Batch> dependencies you know[06:19:05] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-12823.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[06:19:05] <day|flip> not a fan for gstreamer[06:19:19] <Batch> yeah[06:19:27] <Batch> wel clementine uses it[06:19:36] <Batch> i like clementine really[06:19:48] <Batch> in windows i use itunes[06:19:59] <Batch> and i guess itunes looks pretty much thesame[06:20:21] <Batch> so for ease, i picked clementine cause of similarity[06:20:55] <Batch> i don't have an Ipod or whatever apple makes this days :p[06:21:00] <Batch> i just like itunes[06:21:46] <Batch> converts volume from each song to same volume automaticly etc, sound is perfect etc[06:21:55] <Batch> and so does clementine[06:26:47] <day|flip> audacious?[06:27:05] <day|flip> is kinda my fav gui player[06:27:10] <day|flip> audio player[06:27:41] <Batch> i could[06:27:49] <Batch> i'll give that a try some day day|flip[06:27:57] <Batch> i think i did try that too[06:28:14] <Batch> but don't remember if i had it configured well[06:29:11] *** Ragdoll <Ragdoll!~Ragdoll@pool-108-36-111-20.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:30:32] <day|flip> it have plugin it simple to used. it can look like xmms back 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You can simply log out and log back in doh[06:57:42] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[06:57:51] *** brenton32839 <brenton32839!~brenton@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[06:58:04] *** TestingKDEnCIRC <TestingKDEnCIRC!~TestingKD@41.82.165.236> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:59:57] *** brenton32839 <brenton32839!~brenton@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has joined #manjaro[07:00:09] <brenton32839> disabling compositing has no effect[07:00:10] *** shambles07 <shambles07!~rob@c-50-178-83-159.hsd1.in.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[07:00:57] *** shambles07 <shambles07!~rob@2601:243:c901:cd90::9> has joined #manjaro[07:02:59] <brenton32839> pressing shift and scrolling in dolphin is nice wish it did that without having to press the shift key[07:03:24] *** manjaro-web|3001 <manjaro-web|3001!b222a065@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.178.34.160.101> has 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https://forum.manjaro.org/t/nvidia-367-27-anytime-soon/4690/12[08:28:02] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/HQz2F5] NVidia 367.27 anytime soon? - Drivers - Manjaro[08:31:58] <NoirLess> Strit, nice to hear[08:32:32] <NoirLess> coz, afaik, nvidia made situation with optimus a bit better in this version[08:33:29] *** kalinko <kalinko!~kalinko@ip4d14fda6.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[08:34:17] *** Manj-1605-Lxqt <Manj-1605-Lxqt!~manjaro@79.105.188.82> has joined #manjaro[08:34:23] *** Manj-1605-Lxqt <Manj-1605-Lxqt!~manjaro@79.105.188.82> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:37:53] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@190.190.163.54> has joined #manjaro[08:38:25] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@190.190.163.54> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:39:42] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:b3de:3de9:531f:5ce2> has joined #manjaro[08:42:55] <day|flip> Will nvidia 367.3x is on unstable[08:43:16] <day|flip> NoirLess, ^^^[08:43:33] <verrlara> day|flip: :<[08:43:40] *** 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Not sure, if I wanna masturbate on terminal to fix everything. But thanks :D[08:49:33] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: mmh mmh bang bang boom boom pop pop)[08:51:53] *** daccs <daccs!1832f101@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.50.241.1> has joined #manjaro[08:52:31] <daccs> GoodEve!! Manjaro usrs...[08:52:59] <Kuvis> hello[08:53:21] <daccs> qq?[08:53:34] <daccs> how do i disable backlight suspend[08:53:37] <daccs> any tips[08:55:42] *** Strit <Strit!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has left #manjaro ("Manjaro Strit is available at www.strits.dk!")[08:56:26] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[08:59:41] *** alekzanther <alekzanther!~alekzanth@90-225-37-196-no148.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #manjaro[09:03:13] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:07:28] *** daccs <daccs!1832f101@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.50.241.1> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[09:10:42] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:13:09] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[09:16:35] *** shambles07 <shambles07!~rob@2601:243:c901:cd90::9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[09:17:02] *** shambles07 <shambles07!~rob@2601:243:c901:cd90::9> has joined #manjaro[09:18:25] *** alekzanther <alekzanther!~alekzanth@90-225-37-196-no148.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:22:20] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@vlan-158-kiten-211.comnet.bg> has joined #manjaro[09:22:59] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-172-137.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[09:23:04] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-172-137.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:24:58] <manjaroCinnamon1> hi guys i wanted to ask if someone knows hhow to make my quick buttons work on linux? my anable / disable touchpad isnt working :? is there away to mak it working?[09:25:32] *** dietr1ch <dietr1ch!~dietr1ch@186-79-141-92.baf.movistar.cl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:26:31] <NoirLess> anable[09:26:35] *** dietr1ch <dietr1ch!~dietr1ch@186-79-141-92.baf.movistar.cl> has joined #manjaro[09:26:41] <NoirLess> depends on hardware[09:27:13] <manjaroCinnamon1> if i pres the buttton it changes color, but touchpad is still working[09:27:15] <NoirLess> sometimes everything works out of box, sometimes its possible to configure it manually, yep... but sometimes it wont work at all[09:27:39] <manjaroCinnamon1> im on a HP elitebook 8740w[09:27:53] <NoirLess> some DEs has functionality to disable touchpad themself[09:28:53] <NoirLess> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/will-buttons-on-hp-notebook-work-with-linux-393423-print/[09:28:54] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/uHErR7] LinuxQuestions.org - Will buttons on HP notebook work with Linux?[09:29:36] <NoirLess> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_keyboard_keys[09:29:37] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/OSy7Zs] Extra keyboard keys - ArchWiki[09:29:48] <NoirLess> not sure, if it will help, but probably[09:30:38] *** dietr1ch <dietr1ch!~dietr1ch@186-79-141-92.baf.movistar.cl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:31:18] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~flipper@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has joined #manjaro[09:31:37] *** dietr1ch <dietr1ch!~dietr1ch@186-79-141-92.baf.movistar.cl> has joined #manjaro[09:31:44] <manjaroCinnamon1> tnx guys im a little new to linux sorry for the stupid questions ; ) but yestarday i tried 6 hours to install vga drivers and i came hire and you helped me with a link for 10 sec : ) 10x you all your great!!! : )[09:43:08] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@vlan-158-kiten-211.comnet.bg> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:45:05] *** freecores <freecores!~freecores@145.132.131.160> has joined #manjaro[09:47:12] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[09:47:17] *** skulltus <skulltus!~skulltus@46-10-155-75.ip.btc-net.bg> has joined #manjaro[09:49:10] <Vlado9A> Hell o world[09:49:14] <Vlado9A> :)[09:50:15] *** dietr1ch <dietr1ch!~dietr1ch@186-79-141-92.baf.movistar.cl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:51:15] *** steepleone <steepleone!~ray@LFbn-1-6760-250.w90-120.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[09:51:45] *** dietr1ch <dietr1ch!~dietr1ch@186-79-141-92.baf.movistar.cl> has joined #manjaro[09:56:18] *** dietr1ch <dietr1ch!~dietr1ch@186-79-141-92.baf.movistar.cl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:57:38] *** dietr1ch <dietr1ch!~dietr1ch@186-79-141-92.baf.movistar.cl> has joined #manjaro[10:00:51] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:03:01] *** steepleone <steepleone!~ray@LFbn-1-6760-250.w90-120.abo.wanadoo.fr> has left #manjaro[10:03:31] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:b3de:3de9:531f:5ce2> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:03:31] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has joined #manjaro[10:07:17] *** shambles07 <shambles07!~rob@2601:243:c901:cd90::9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[10:09:31] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-172-137.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:15:42] *** dietr1ch <dietr1ch!~dietr1ch@186-79-141-92.baf.movistar.cl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:16:45] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@62.57.93.131.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #manjaro[10:16:45] *** manj-1603-Lxde2 <manj-1603-Lxde2!~manjaro@62.57.93.131.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #manjaro[10:16:47] *** manj-1603-Lxde3 <manj-1603-Lxde3!~manjaro@62.57.93.131.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #manjaro[10:16:47] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@62.57.93.131.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:16:50] *** manj-1603-Lxde3 <manj-1603-Lxde3!~manjaro@62.57.93.131.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:16:52] *** manj-1603-Lxde2 <manj-1603-Lxde2!~manjaro@62.57.93.131.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:17:15] *** fatalerrors <fatalerrors!~fatalerro@91.224.149.179> has joined #manjaro[10:17:43] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-172-137.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[10:19:23] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@x55b42964.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[10:20:57] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@62.57.93.131.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #manjaro[10:24:29] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 is now known as Boyfly97[10:25:03] <Boyfly97> I want to know the command to remove an application from the terminal[10:26:41] *** ok91 <ok91!~oleg@unaffiliated/ok91> has joined #manjaro[10:33:06] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:33:11] *** semeion <semeion!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has joined #manjaro[10:33:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v semeion[10:34:20] *** Prescott_SK <Prescott_SK!4e627efe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.98.126.254> has joined #manjaro[10:35:18] *** Prescott_SK <Prescott_SK!4e627efe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.98.126.254> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:40:16] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@122.162.14.183> has joined #manjaro[10:44:07] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[10:46:25] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[10:49:00] *** al4nc4ds <al4nc4ds!Elite16186@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-rjjrutqbkotvtfwh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[10:49:14] *** rocksteady <rocksteady!~tyfoo@ip4d166781.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Quit: have phun)[10:50:33] *** IDe_ <IDe_!itajari1@gateway/shell/tkk.fi/x-ivjhdrsppivvkfyn> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:51:27] *** al4nc4ds <al4nc4ds!Elite16186@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-iuzoxafnwwsjrjxz> has joined #manjaro[10:52:06] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-78-214-50.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[10:58:48] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-78-214-50.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[10:59:23] *** saleem <saleem!2736a088@gateway/web/freenode/ip.39.54.160.136> has joined #manjaro[11:01:22] <saleem> hi , i need help with permissions. When I try to open home direcotry of another linux in file manager i get this kind of error " Error opening directory '/run/media/saleem/Arch-Openbox 64/home/saleem': Permission denied"[11:01:32] <saleem> im lost how to fix this[11:01:45] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has joined #manjaro[11:01:46] <saleem> tried many different things but nothing works[11:02:06] <saleem> would somebody please guide me how to fix this?[11:02:41] *** Strit <Strit!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[11:02:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit[11:03:11] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-172-137.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:06:57] *** Boyfly97 <Boyfly97!~manjaro@62.57.93.131.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:19:28] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@117.242.192.126> has joined #manjaro[11:19:47] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as mimesis-aegis[11:20:05] <mimesis-aegis> hey guys[11:21:29] <mimesis-aegis> there's this external hd which is not recognized anymore after pluggingit into a mac system , it was working fine on windows ; and it's not recognized on manjaro as well what can be done?[11:25:48] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@115-64-75-132.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[11:26:25] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@115-64-75-132.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:26:44] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@122.162.14.183> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:26:55] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@122.162.14.183> has joined #manjaro[11:27:45] *** kalinko <kalinko!~kalinko@ip4d14fda6.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:31:06] <mimesis-aegis> hello?[11:31:17] *** saleem <saleem!2736a088@gateway/web/freenode/ip.39.54.160.136> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[11:31:26] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.49.127> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[11:31:29] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[11:31:30] <mimesis-aegis> how can i fix this ext hd on manjaro[11:31:43] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[11:31:46] <mimesis-aegis> any help would be greatly appreciated[11:34:08] <Vlado9A> mimesis-aegis: have you tried to mount it? And can you see it with lsusb command?[11:35:07] <Vlado9A> If you don't see it with lsusb, it might be dead[11:37:23] <manjaro-kde5-> Hi everyone! I am new to Plasma and just noticed that moving large files/folders from my HDD take a ridiculous amount of time. I suspect it gets transferred from my HDD (sdc) to my SSD (sda) for storage in trash. is that possible? If so, how do I fix it?[11:38:31] <manjaro-kde5-> As far as I know, any drive should have its own trash and just moving files/folders within one drive should only take a short moment because there is actually no real data transfer...[11:41:17] *** jarco is now known as ninjarco[11:41:24] *** ninjarco is now known as ninJarco[11:48:14] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[11:49:29] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[11:49:44] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has joined #manjaro[11:51:49] *** fred-fri <fred-fri!~fred-fri@59-100-209-246.bri.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #manjaro[11:52:29] <badbodh> shariebeth, something funny is going on in forum. What's going on ?[11:57:40] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has joined #manjaro[11:57:53] <Vlado9A> It's usually not as it looks like on a first site[12:02:22] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has joined #manjaro[12:04:02] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p5B20884D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[12:04:23] <Wildfyr> Hello[12:05:01] *** Animtim_ <Animtim_!~timo@21-44-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #manjaro[12:05:08] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[12:07:02] <vexare> manjaro-kde5-: use delete?[12:08:03] *** Animtim <Animtim!~timo@21-44-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[12:09:15] *** skulltus <skulltus!~skulltus@46-10-155-75.ip.btc-net.bg> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:10:05] *** GenZai <GenZai!~emil@mnt60-1-88-186-66-2.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[12:10:51] *** varikonniemi <varikonniemi!~q@a91-153-231-199.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:13:32] *** 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mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[13:14:14] <verrlara> I appreciate the github with the bspwm manjaro skel files in it.[13:14:40] <verrlara> Even though I am an archy I prefer the presets of the manjaro bspwm sxhkd file.[13:14:49] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@61.pool85-53-161.dynamic.orange.es> has joined #manjaro[13:15:46] *** nyek <nyek!~nyek@i59F6DD6E.versanet.de> has joined #manjaro[13:16:21] *** nyek <nyek!~nyek@i59F6DD6E.versanet.de> has left #manjaro[13:16:21] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[13:17:13] <manjaro-kde5-> Hi[13:17:22] <manjaro-kde5> Hi![13:17:29] <manjaro-kde5> ;-)[13:17:37] <verrlara> Howdy[13:17:55] <NanoSector> heya[13:18:03] <manjaro-kde5> Does anybody know how to increase the movement induced my mouse scrolling?[13:18:09] <manjaro-kde5> by[13:18:14] <NanoSector> most DEs have a setting for it[13:18:16] <NanoSector> I know KDE does[13:18:23] <NanoSector> System Settings -> Input Devices -> Mouse[13:18:30] <manjaro-kde5> Right, but it does not seem to have any effet![13:18:44] <NanoSector> Hmm that's odd[13:18:45] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@61.pool85-53-161.dynamic.orange.es> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:18:48] <NanoSector> I'd ask in #kde[13:19:01] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@61.pool85-53-161.dynamic.orange.es> has joined #manjaro[13:19:20] <manjaro-kde5> I have more than doubled the preset and there is no perceivable effect.[13:19:26] <manjaro-kde5> I will try. Thx![13:21:03] <verrlara> How do I change virtual desktops bspwm? using the manjaro config?[13:21:17] * NanoSector never used bspwm[13:21:30] <verrlara> Your missing out NanoSector[13:21:33] *** fatalerrors <fatalerrors!~fatalerro@91.224.149.179> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:21:36] <verrlara> What do you use as a tiler?[13:21:37] <NanoSector> i don't like tiling wms[13:21:43] <verrlara> le gasp[13:21:53] <NanoSector> i have GNOME3 with the gTile extension[13:23:58] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:24:14] <verrlara> ah[13:25:21] *** jonas18175 <jonas18175!~manjaro-k@pD9EA9B79.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[13:25:47] *** ultrixx <ultrixx!~ultrixx@p5B2DE470.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:26:15] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[13:26:53] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has joined #manjaro[13:29:34] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!)[13:33:29] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@61.pool85-53-161.dynamic.orange.es> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:34:03] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@93-47-133-107.ip113.fastwebnet.it> has joined #manjaro[13:35:20] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@93-47-133-107.ip113.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:35:40] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[13:35:53] *** fatalerrors <fatalerrors!~fatalerro@ip-192.net-82-216-58.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[13:40:30] *** pingupingu <pingupingu!~pinguping@unaffiliated/pingupingu> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:47:37] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~vesna@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[13:50:04] *** freecores <freecores!~freecores@145.132.131.160> has quit IRC (Quit: Offline)[13:54:56] *** FatalException <FatalException!~FatalExce@unaffiliated/yoshi2889/bot/fatalexception> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:55:16] *** FatalException <FatalException!~FatalExce@unaffiliated/yoshi2889/bot/fatalexception> has joined #manjaro[13:55:19] *** FatalException <FatalException!~FatalExce@unaffiliated/yoshi2889/bot/fatalexception> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:55:36] *** FatalException <FatalException!~FatalExce@unaffiliated/yoshi2889/bot/fatalexception> has joined #manjaro[13:55:39] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[13:56:04] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@122.162.14.183> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:57:39] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[14:00:30] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[14:01:45] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[14:03:43] *** d4f <d4f!~d4f@27-32-191-254.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[14:08:32] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@42.115.141.14> has joined #manjaro[14:13:34] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[14:15:23] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@42.115.141.14> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:15:53] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@x55b42964.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:19:28] <d4f> hello anyone here?[14:19:46] *** manjaro_user <manjaro_user!~manjaro-k@69.196.11.58> has joined #manjaro[14:20:06] <d4f> i am trying to install zfs-dkms[14:20:23] <d4f> and it cannot find spl build dir[14:21:16] <Strit_Laptop> do you have spl installed?[14:21:55] <Strit_Laptop> you could try installing spl-utils. :)[14:23:06] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has joined #manjaro[14:26:10] <d4f> yes[14:26:34] <d4f> it was installed and added to dkms ... and successfully built[14:26:51] <d4f> found this on the forum[14:26:52] <d4f> https://github.com/manjaro/packages-extra/issues/89[14:26:54] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/i6Ppbf] zfs-dkms 0.6.5.7-1 not working · Issue #89 · manjaro/packages-extra · GitHub[14:27:24] <d4f> it says fixed.. but how? pacman still cannot deal with it[14:27:52] *** TestingKDEnCIRC <TestingKDEnCIRC!~TestingKD@41.82.165.236> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[14:28:24] *** fatalerrors <fatalerrors!~fatalerro@ip-192.net-82-216-58.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[14:29:30] *** fatalerrors <fatalerrors!~fatalerro@ip-192.net-82-216-58.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[14:32:37] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-12823.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:33:40] *** manjaro_user <manjaro_user!~manjaro-k@69.196.11.58> has quit IRC (Quit: Manjaro-KDE user leaving!)[14:40:13] *** NaoTix <NaoTix!~NaoTix@176.139.185.179> has joined #manjaro[14:40:25] <NaoTix> Hi[14:40:35] <verrlara> hi[14:40:42] <verrlara> I have a bash script issue.[14:40:52] <verrlara> This line is erroring and I don't know why[14:40:54] <verrlara> if [ grep -q "Not connected."] ; then[14:41:01] *** jonas18175 <jonas18175!~manjaro-k@pD9EA9B79.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:50:49] *** Snake1130 <Snake1130!~MakerBlak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net> has joined #manjaro[14:51:54] *** s8321414_ <s8321414_!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has joined #manjaro[14:52:04] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[14:52:17] *** s8321414_ is now known as s8321414[14:52:43] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-172-137.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[15:02:22] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[15:03:05] *** dietr1ch <dietr1ch!~dietr1ch@186-79-141-92.baf.movistar.cl> has joined #manjaro[15:03:49] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:04:21] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[15:06:54] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.115.171> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[15:09:04] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.13.47> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:12:34] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@h43n13-lid-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:14:40] *** RocknRolf <RocknRolf!~rolf@ip5f5afb2a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[15:15:25] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@h43n13-lid-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[15:16:10] *** fsckd <fsckd!~~@april-fools/2013/runnerup/fsckd> has joined #manjaro[15:18:01] *** TaZeR <TaZeR!~TaZeR@CPE788df7b300f3-CM788df7b300f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has joined #manjaro[15:22:55] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.13.47> has joined #manjaro[15:23:00] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@ip-176-198-219-168.hsi05.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #manjaro[15:23:28] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@ip-176-198-219-168.hsi05.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:23:36] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.13.47> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:24:00] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.13.47> has joined #manjaro[15:25:13] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-13095.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[15:25:17] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-154-153.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[15:25:53] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@agkh184.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[15:25:59] *** RocknRolf <RocknRolf!~rolf@ip5f5afb2a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[15:28:02] <mike-zal> does anyone know how to open java app in form of a jar file?[15:28:26] <mike-zal> double clicking opens it with ark[15:28:45] <mike-zal> when I use: open with->java, nothing happens[15:29:31] <mike-zal> jre8 i jre7 is installed[15:36:06] *** Rose_Aleria <Rose_Aleria!~Aria@unaffiliated/aria22> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)[15:37:01] *** LER0ever <LER0ever!~everette@49.73.246.38> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:43:36] <eizua> Hi mike-zal[15:43:45] <TaZeR> you need to in command line and type something like "java jar -packagename"[15:43:57] <TaZeR> java -jar -packagename[15:44:23] <mike-zal> thanks, it worked... partially. I got error window :([15:44:25] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[15:45:21] *** pottedplant42 <pottedplant42!491d87b2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.29.135.178> has joined #manjaro[15:45:32] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[15:46:43] <mike-zal> java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "reg":error=2, no such file or folder[15:48:09] <pottedplant42> hi, can makepkg be given the url of a PKGBUILD so that it installs from the web? like makepkg http://example.com/stuff/PKGBUILD[15:48:10] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/RYtRz4] (link was unresponsive: http://example.com/stuff/PKGBUILD)[15:48:43] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[15:48:53] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[15:51:01] *** slayslot 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(Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:02:37] <Strit_Laptop> you can try with "makepkg -p <link to pkgbuild>" but I don't think it works.[16:02:51] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has joined #manjaro[16:03:11] *** fatalerrors <fatalerrors!~fatalerro@91.224.149.179> has joined #manjaro[16:03:53] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[16:04:18] <pottedplant42> ok thank you, i will try[16:04:48] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[16:04:51] *** d4f <d4f!~d4f@27-32-191-254.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:07:20] <superbia> Strit_Laptop: have you seen PMunch?[16:07:55] <Strit_Laptop> nope[16:09:28] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[16:12:19] *** alexandr1 is now known as alexandros-C[16:12:25] *** alexandros-C is now known as alexandros_c[16:12:44] <superbia> hmz[16:12:50] 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And what are you grepping?[17:42:20] <LyriCa> Lowl3v3l i know how to work the tar i just want one that appears on nautilus right click[17:43:11] <LyriCa> since sometimes it gets annoying when i have to open up a terminal and cd my way into the directory im looking at in nautilus[17:43:25] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:43:28] <LyriCa> and theres no open terminal here prompt in nautilus[17:44:12] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[17:44:18] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[17:44:25] <bugzbunny> I can recall what it's called but it's supported by mate at least[17:44:25] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@2a02:810d:a640:d9c:1a94:c0a5:71aa:413b> has joined #manjaro[17:44:45] *** Deckon <Deckon!~manjaro-g@189.179.185.135> has joined #manjaro[17:44:49] <bugzbunny> You can right click, then select where you want to extract to, or if you wanted to extract in the directory you are in[17:45:03] <luck777> Jeannie: deleting xorg config allowed me to boot again into manjaro[17:46:00] <bugzbunny> LyriCa: See https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MATE#MATE_applications[17:46:01] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/DbQVJm] MATE - ArchWiki[17:46:06] *** Deckon <Deckon!~manjaro-g@189.179.185.135> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:46:06] *** Deckon <Deckon!~manjaro-g@unaffiliated/deckon> has joined #manjaro[17:46:27] *** Deckon <Deckon!~manjaro-g@unaffiliated/deckon> has left #manjaro[17:46:48] <bugzbunny> I dunno if File Roller supports Gnome 3 but perhaps it's a good start to go looking[17:47:21] <LyriCa> thanks[17:47:42] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[17:49:02] *** Deckon <Deckon!~Deckon@unaffiliated/deckon> has joined #manjaro[17:49:16] *** Deckon_ <Deckon_!~Deckon@unaffiliated/deckon> has joined #manjaro[17:49:23] *** Deckon_ <Deckon_!~Deckon@unaffiliated/deckon> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:49:30] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[17:49:37] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@x55b42964.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:49:47] <LyriCa> ok i found a plugin tahts called open in terminal , im fine w that[17:49:53] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[17:50:33] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@x55b42964.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[17:52:39] *** Deckon <Deckon!~Deckon@unaffiliated/deckon> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:54:00] *** luck777 <luck777!5e4cb607@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.94.76.182.7> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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My user password or blank does not work, and I didn't get prompted to select one during installation.[18:44:02] <mtn> Kranix: give an example of when it fails for you[18:44:07] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[18:44:25] <Kranix> I'm trying to do a system upgrade (Octopi).[18:44:55] <mtn> Kranix: and it asks for your password and then says incorrect password or what?[18:45:02] <Kranix> Yes.[18:45:12] <mtn> Kranix: and you are using your users password?[18:45:37] <Kranix> Yes.[18:45:47] <mtn> Kranix: check for typos, caps lock, etc.[18:46:32] <Kranix> Done. Still the same.[18:47:18] <mtn> Kranix: then you are making some basic mistake, like you forgot your password. do you know how to get to a tty?[18:47:28] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[18:47:35] <Kranix> Not really.[18:48:07] <mtn> Kranix: you would do ctrl+alt+F2. and ctrl+alt+F1 to get back to the gui.[18:48:20] *** Ma9876 <Ma9876!~manjaro-m@pD9505711.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[18:48:21] <mtn> Kranix: go to F2 and try to login as your user. does it work ok?[18:49:11] *** pman <pman!~pman@p4FF4770F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[18:49:23] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[18:49:31] <Kranix> Um, F2 seems to just go blank screen.[18:49:53] <mtn> Kranix: you did ctrl+alt+F2? and did not see a prompt?[18:50:07] *** Ma9876 <Ma9876!~manjaro-m@pD9505711.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:50:19] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[18:50:21] *** manjaro-mate1512 <manjaro-mate1512!~pman@p4FF4770F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[18:50:23] <Kranix> Indeed.[18:50:51] <mtn> Kranix: odd. ok, it looks like you are making a basic mistake. I think you forgot your password[18:51:35] <Kranix> But I just logged in. Unless I made a typo when creating it and somehow replicated that typo just before, that doesn't make sense.[18:51:39] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[18:51:46] *** manjaro-mate1512 <manjaro-mate1512!~pman@p4FF4770F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:51:46] *** pman <pman!~pman@p4FF4770F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:52:07] *** pman <pman!~pman@p4FF4770F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[18:52:14] <mtn> Kranix: no, it does not make sense. do you have more than one user? in other words, can you login as more than one user?[18:52:19] *** pman <pman!~pman@p4FF4770F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:52:59] <Kranix> No.[18:53:13] <mtn> Kranix: ok. is this a new install?[18:53:29] <Kranix> I don't know if I should mention that the graphical installer glitched and froze when installing a few years ago.[18:53:38] <Kranix> I had to just shut down and hope for it working, which it did.[18:53:45] <Kranix> days*[18:53:50] <Kranix> A few days.[18:54:02] <mtn> Kranix: and the password never worked?[18:55:52] <Kranix> Um...[18:55:55] <Kranix> *facepalm*[18:56:13] <Kranix> I didn't exactly make a typo, but I reversed the order of two parts of my password...[18:56:17] <Kranix> Sorry for wasting your time.[18:56:29] <mtn> Kranix: glad it was simple[18:58:29] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@aesg4.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:59:17] *** RudyD <RudyD!54e1e987@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.84.225.233.135> has joined #manjaro[19:00:04] *** eizua <eizua!~eizua@122.2.123.14> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:05:51] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[19:07:42] *** einseenai <einseenai!~einseenai@92.243.167.185> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:08:13] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@2a02:908:2f32:2960:29af:979c:73be:eac6> has joined #manjaro[19:08:42] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~flipper@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[19:11:32] *** NaoTix <NaoTix!~NaoTix@176.139.185.179> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:11:55] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~flipper@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has joined #manjaro[19:12:14] *** NaoTix <NaoTix!~NaoTix@176.139.185.179> has joined #manjaro[19:14:44] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@2601:646:8f01:6e50:9217:3cb8:2032:a9a1> has joined #manjaro[19:16:20] <manjaro> after installtion efi boots to my windows partition[19:17:08] <manjaro> I'm RTFMing the restore the grub bootloader page[19:18:14] <manjaro> it tells me to modprobe efivars... which gives no errors, but doesn't load the modual[19:19:22] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:19:45] <manjaro> as a result mount -t efivarfs efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars doesn't work, because the directory isn't there[19:20:41] <mtn> manjaro: you are looking at the arch wiki page? that should help and this might help, too: https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall[19:20:42] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/3rXobb] GrubEFIReinstall - 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A hand crafted IRC client)[20:13:14] *** captainkats <captainkats!~captaink@adsl-120.79.107.188.tellas.gr> has joined #manjaro[20:17:16] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:18:38] *** USER101 <USER101!bf630065@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.191.99.0.101> has joined #manjaro[20:18:48] <USER101> hello[20:19:05] <USER101> where is the software market on manjaro?[20:19:23] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[20:19:24] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@122.162.14.183> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:19:26] <Lowl3v3l> there is none. there is a package manager called pacman.[20:19:45] <Lowl3v3l> man pacman will tell you about it[20:20:13] <USER101> ok but if i want to install apps like wine or playonlinux?[20:20:27] <Lowl3v3l> again : read the manpage and use pacman.[20:20:36] <USER101> i typed in search but none results found[20:21:06] <Lowl3v3l> USER101, open a terminal and type "man pacman"[20:21:06] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:21:24] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[20:21:59] *** airsoftmodels <airsoftmodels!~airsoftmo@2602:306:8358:c070:580a:7fb7:c1a4:a19e> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:23:25] <USER101> wow[20:23:40] <mparillo> On the Manjaro KDE, there is octopi which provides a friendly front-end to pacman[20:23:51] <USER101> it looks hard to install programs maybe i should stay on linux mint[20:24:05] <USER101> guys what about security what do u recommend?[20:24:29] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@122.162.14.183> has joined #manjaro[20:24:29] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[20:24:30] <mparillo> Don't install random executables.[20:24:48] <Lowl3v3l> USER101, use your brain.[20:25:04] <captainkats> @USER101: you can check wiki https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Main_Page#Software_Management to get to know the distribution[20:25:06] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/kwsrTm] Manjaro Linux[20:25:58] <captainkats> https://wiki.manjaro.org[20:26:00] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/vPbjlO] Manjaro Linux[20:26:01] <USER101> i am using it but pacma looks complicated i mean in linux mint i can read about the apps on the market on a friendly eviroment i can not see that here in pacma[20:26:36] <Jeannie> Pacman or pamac?[20:26:45] <USER101> @lowl3v3l[20:27:02] <Lowl3v3l> USER101, pacman -Ss <packagename> tells you about it-.[20:27:18] <USER101> XD pamac i dont know why i keep calling it pacman[20:27:54] <Lowl3v3l> USER101, 2 different tools.[20:27:55] <Jeannie> pamac is a graphical front end to manjaro's package manager which is calles pacman[20:28:41] <USER101> here is a big question i have been trying to install a dual boot on my pc for 3 days now and i cant, i also cant install a OS on a flash drive[20:28:44] <USER101> help please[20:28:46] <captainkats> looks complicated until you get used to it, but it's not[20:29:50] <USER101> i made it to install it but i cant make a persistence usb[20:30:24] <captainkats> You wanna make a liveusb & then save the live serssion to it?[20:30:30] <captainkats> *session[20:30:41] <Jeannie> You need to install it to a flash drive just like you'd install it to a hard disk[20:30:57] <USER101> yeah but where do i put the grub?[20:31:06] <Jeannie> On the flash drive?[20:31:17] <captainkats> this could work[20:31:31] <USER101> i can install it on a flash drive but what i want is a persistence USB[20:31:44] <Jeannie> That is what I am talking about[20:32:02] <Jeannie> Use the manjaro installer to install a system on a usb drive[20:32:12] <USER101> i want to travel my flash drive with OS inside and all my files there and boot it on any pc i want[20:32:26] <USER101> it keep showing me errors[20:32:36] <Jeannie> Which errors?[20:32:37] <USER101> idk if UEFI is making this hard[20:32:59] <captainkats> errors when you try to boot to another pc?[20:33:09] <captainkats> or when you install to usb?[20:33:13] <Jeannie> UEFI and a persistent usb install might interfere with each other[20:33:27] <USER101> exactly[20:33:43] <USER101> booth i just have 2 pcs and booth have UEFI[20:33:56] <Jeannie> That's actually a UEFI problem[20:34:09] <USER101> im going to attemp again with THUS installer[20:34:55] <captainkats> try with UEFI disabled for the moment. then reenable for the other systems & check if it works fine w/o UEFI. in both machines[20:34:57] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[20:35:06] <Jeannie> UEFI systems require the bootloadr to be installed in the efi boot partition. You cant create a efi boot partition for a persistent usb install on a harddisk.[20:35:09] *** Deckon <Deckon!~Deckon@unaffiliated/deckon> has joined #manjaro[20:35:12] *** Kartenmann <Kartenmann!~manjaro-k@p5DD8321F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[20:35:17] <USER101> if i disble uefi i cant boot from USB LIVE[20:35:47] <Jeannie> Is secure boot and/or fast boot enabled?[20:36:10] <USER101> i cant see those options on my bios[20:36:32] <captainkats> pls post information of your systems[20:36:45] <captainkats> it would help us a lot[20:36:54] <USER101> im rying[20:37:08] <USER101> how do i send a picture of the screenshot?[20:39:27] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[20:40:58] <USER101> how can i take a screenshot? i already pressed Prt Sc nothing happened[20:42:54] <captainkats> I dont think you can here, probably only text would do[20:43:04] <USER101> sudo apt-get install unetbootin[20:43:13] <USER101> and nothing happened on terminal[20:43:26] <captainkats> are you on manjaro now or mint?[20:43:33] <USER101> manjaro[20:43:42] <captainkats> apt is not working on majaro[20:43:53] <USER101> >_<[20:43:58] <captainkats> try hwinfo --short[20:44:03] <USER101> so how do i install that?[20:44:04] <captainkats> to provide info[20:44:44] <captainkats> pacman -S unetbootin, if the name is the same[20:44:48] <captainkats> let me check[20:45:15] <USER101> https://thepb.in/p/66hV6OM2pOLUW[20:45:17] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/jj638E] TheP(aste)B.in - For all your pasting needs![20:45:20] <USER101> there are my pc info[20:45:27] <Jeannie> unetbootin wont work with manjaro isos[20:45:57] <mparillo> I used dd for mine[20:46:15] <Jeannie> I use image writer[20:46:22] <captainkats> there is also isousb[20:46:52] <USER101> unetbootin its like rufus?[20:47:22] <captainkats> not exactly but does some work[20:47:31] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[20:47:46] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[20:47:54] <captainkats> better try imagewriter, or isousb or plain dd to write the iso to a usb stick[20:48:15] <USER101> dude isoUSB is windows EXE[20:48:21] <USER101> cant install it here[20:48:24] <captainkats> then you can have a live usb for your needs[20:48:50] <captainkats> sudo pacman -S isousb[20:49:02] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:49:02] <captainkats> it's in pacman repos[20:49:30] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[20:49:31] <captainkats> or you can search with pamac using words like usb + iso[20:50:51] <captainkats> actually, check also wiki page[20:50:52] <captainkats> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Burn_an_ISO_File[20:50:53] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/f5FmGP] Burn an ISO File - Manjaro Linux[20:50:58] <USER101> all i want is ti make a persistent Linux USB[20:51:28] <USER101> i was following this guide http://tuxtweaks.com/2014/03/create-linux-mint-persistent-live-usb/[20:51:30] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/gxU0Vq] Linux Mint Persistent Live USB[20:51:40] <captainkats> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Installation_Guides[20:51:41] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/Zp4Q9d] Installation Guides - Manjaro Linux[20:51:59] <captainkats> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=UEFI_-_Install_Guide[20:52:00] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/Yqkgpf] UEFI - Install Guide - Manjaro Linux[20:52:23] <captainkats> check these pages to get an idea, probably they would help you a lot[20:53:10] <USER101> how do i secure boot off?[20:53:17] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[20:53:22] <USER101> im stuck in that step[20:53:43] <USER101> i enter in my bios im on a Asus[20:53:46] *** Infamous <Infamous!znc@185.38.14.119> has joined #manjaro[20:54:00] <USER101> but i cant found that option this is a very basic bios[20:54:04] *** Kranix <Kranix!~manjaro-k@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:54:25] *** captainkats <captainkats!~captaink@adsl-120.79.107.188.tellas.gr> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:54:25] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:54:25] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.225.139> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:54:25] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:54:26] *** Strit <Strit!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:54:26] *** walle303 <walle303!~walle303@pisg/dev/walle303> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:54:27] *** anonkun <anonkun!~anonkun@unaffiliated/anonkun> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:54:27] *** Ace0r <Ace0r!~aceor@184.68.170.134> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:54:27] *** dfgg <dfgg!damian@195-154-165-176.rev.poneytelecom.eu> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:54:27] *** DerEnderKeks <DerEnderKeks!~DerEnderK@derenderkeks.me> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:54:27] *** uvclay- <uvclay-!~uvclay@167.88.5.174> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[20:55:07] <Jeannie> Bios or UEFI?[20:55:36] <USER101> BIOS[20:56:00] <Jeannie> Why would you want to try to install in uefi mode on a bios machine?[20:56:33] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:57:08] <USER101> because when i try to boot from live USB i cant so i have to PRESS F2 then ENABLE UEFI and then choose boot from USB otherwise USB wont SHOW[20:57:40] *** ggr <ggr!~ggr@143-122-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #manjaro[20:58:16] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[20:58:29] * Jeannie scratches her head[20:59:09] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-172-137.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[20:59:17] <USER101> i know right its so complicated[20:59:25] <USER101> i have been tryng for 3 days[20:59:33] <USER101> its so stressful[21:00:21] <Lowl3v3l> USER101, somehow i doubt you fully understand what you are trying to do...[21:00:24] <USER101> i just need dual boot or a persistent USB because i just want to use windows for autocad and Photoshop[21:00:29] <GenZai> I did this from noobuntu[21:00:30] <GenZai> https://www.reddit.com/r/ManjaroLinux/comments/47v221/how_can_i_create_a_manjaro_bootable_usb_from/[21:00:31] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/C3yutT] (link was unresponsive: https://www.reddit.com/r/ManjaroLinux/comments/47v221/how_can_i_create_a_manjaro_bootable_usb_from/)[21:01:46] <USER101> dudes i can install a usb boot live usb on my drive im actually using it right now[21:02:02] *** Cookiehunter <Cookiehunter!~cookiehun@host81-140-169-203.range81-140.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:02:06] *** Strit <Strit!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[21:02:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit[21:02:08] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[21:02:14] <USER101> what i cant do is a dual boot installation or a persistent USB[21:02:48] *** pottedplant42 <pottedplant42!491d87b2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.29.135.178> has joined #manjaro[21:03:39] <GenZai> I don't know, you need to take off your uSB after the install[21:04:50] <GenZai> if you keep your USB in the computer, it will boot from your USB instead of bootinh from your hard drive[21:04:50] <Lowl3v3l> USER101, pretty simple actually : get a multi-boot setup on it like you would on a hdd. usb is handled kind of the same way as ide and sata so there is no big problem with this.[21:05:19] *** danis <danis!~Manjarous@190.72.118.96> has joined #manjaro[21:05:48] <USER101> lowl3v3l how?[21:05:53] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has joined #manjaro[21:06:59] <Lowl3v3l> USER101, uhm if you want to have two partitions to boot from on your usb install two there. If you just want grub to be able to boot fr0om the usb too make grub boot from the harddrive and add some grub shenanigans to boot from the usb( or even chainload the grub on the usb)[21:07:58] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/lafemme> has joined #manjaro[21:08:07] <Lowl3v3l> USER101, if you do it the second way you have the benefit of this stick working on other pc's too. Though i have to warn you : especially cheaper usb's will take some hardware damage pretty fast if there is a lot of writing on them, so you should at least mount tmpfs to ram and stuff to make it last longer[21:08:21] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[21:10:57] *** tefter <tefter!~bmaxa@109.72.51.248> has joined #manjaro[21:10:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tefter[21:10:59] <Lowl3v3l> USER101, so if i understood you correctly the steps i'd take are the following : 1.) install the distro to usb and configure it like you normally would 2.) boot up your computers main distro and add the stick stuff to grub then it should work iirc ( didn't do sth like this in at least 10 years, but back then it was not much of a hazzle)[21:11:50] *** H-H-H <H-H-H!~H-H-H@host-92-10-118-33.as43234.net> has joined #manjaro[21:12:32] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.38> has joined #manjaro[21:13:05] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-172-137.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[21:13:26] *** dfgg <dfgg!damian@195-154-165-176.rev.poneytelecom.eu> has joined #manjaro[21:13:32] *** DerEnderKeks <DerEnderKeks!~DerEnderK@derenderkeks.me> has joined #manjaro[21:13:35] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[21:13:35] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[21:13:41] *** Ace0r <Ace0r!~aceor@184.68.170.134> has joined #manjaro[21:13:43] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.225.139> has joined #manjaro[21:13:45] *** walle303 <walle303!~walle303@pisg/dev/walle303> has joined #manjaro[21:13:51] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@176.59.1.134> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:14:32] *** anonkun <anonkun!~anonkun@1.ipv4.jackson.mtbnc.us> has joined #manjaro[21:16:03] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[21:16:31] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[21:16:35] *** fsckd <fsckd!~~@april-fools/2013/runnerup/fsckd> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.5")[21:16:38] <USER101> Lowl3v3l why i cant install manjaro on dual boot from the OS Installer[21:16:55] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:17:32] <mtn> USER101: explain what you mean. what goes wrong, etc.[21:17:59] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[21:18:17] <Lowl3v3l> USER101, because installers as a whole are bad software that does way to much magic^^ But i assume you miss something like "do magic so it simply dual boots"... i doubt manjaros installer has this, so it is sane at least in this regard.[21:18:17] <USER101> i want to install majaron alonside windows 7[21:18:48] <Lowl3v3l> USER101, cool, just partition it yourself and you are fine, whats the big deal? thats like ... 5 minutes of reading and 30 seconds of doing o.O[21:18:56] <mtn> USER101: dual boot installs are simple. what problem are you having?[21:19:03] <USER101> dude[21:19:12] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[21:19:15] <USER101> i already shrink my disk[21:19:31] <USER101> i even have 100000 left unallocated space[21:19:49] <mtn> USER101: what problem are you having?[21:19:59] *** Delviax13 <Delviax13!~delvia@ool-44c16817.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[21:20:12] <USER101> when i choose that unallocated space it say i have too many partios[21:20:40] <Lowl3v3l> USER101, if you have an mbr partitioning scheme 4 primary partitions is the maximum, yeah.[21:21:10] <mtn> USER101: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/[21:21:12] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/llGnfk] (Page title not found or empty. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.)[21:22:22] <USER101> so i have a recovery partition a SYSTEM i thinks this is EFI (100mb size) and the OS and the unalocated free space[21:23:53] <Lowl3v3l> USER101, afaik manjaro at least generates a swap in the standard layout, if you manually partition it you can leave the swap out and create a swapfile later.[21:24:24] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-154-153.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[21:24:32] *** SanzFC <SanzFC!~SanzFC@179.216.132.185> has joined #manjaro[21:25:11] <USER101> ok but then it ask me where do i want to save the boot[21:25:20] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/lafemme> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.5")[21:26:19] <Lowl3v3l> USER101, i'd really advise to do some reading before you attempt the install[21:26:20] *** anonkun <anonkun!~anonkun@1.ipv4.jackson.mtbnc.us> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:26:20] *** anonkun <anonkun!~anonkun@unaffiliated/anonkun> has joined #manjaro[21:26:43] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~flipper@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:26:51] <USER101> if i want to dual boot where should i save the boot?[21:27:22] <Lowl3v3l> boot doesn't have to be a separate partition. and not even a shared one.[21:27:36] *** uvclay <uvclay!~uvclay@167.88.5.174> has joined #manjaro[21:30:50] <SanzFC> Just follow the instructions of the installer. You need only a Swap partition, a Linux partition and save the GRUB (boot manager) on the MBR.[21:30:55] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:31:05] <USER101> the boot should be save in the separeted one?[21:31:23] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:31:25] <USER101> whats the MBR[21:31:26] <USER101> OMG!![21:31:51] *** Snake1130 <Snake1130!~MakerBlak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:32:08] <Lowl3v3l> SanzFC, a swap isn't needed.[21:32:23] <Lowl3v3l> USER101, as i said : you really need to so some reading[21:32:23] <mtn> may not be needed ;)[21:32:29] *** Diskord__ <Diskord__!~diskord@178.120.57.74> has joined #manjaro[21:32:51] <Lowl3v3l> mtn, well its not "required" in a strict sense[21:32:59] <mtn> Lowl3v3l: agreed[21:33:22] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:33:24] <bugzbunny> but why not set it up now?[21:33:28] <SanzFC> Master Boot Record, like /dev/sda, for example.[21:33:53] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[21:35:04] <USER101> lets set it up[21:35:14] <USER101> come on im trusting you guys[21:35:20] <USER101> we can do this man[21:35:40] <Lowl3v3l> USER101, please please just do some reading...[21:37:11] *** not_dammit <not_dammit!~manjaro-k@199-7-157-73.eng.wind.ca> has joined #manjaro[21:37:39] <SanzFC> Read the wiki's, follow the steps, it's very simple[21:38:01] <USER101> cant find[21:38:20] <USER101> alll they say is choose install alonside windows[21:38:42] <USER101> i dont have that option in the installer even thou i have freespaced unallocated[21:39:08] *** johnvan_ <johnvan_!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP140-03-2925478258.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[21:39:33] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP140-04-1279467076.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:40:24] *** Snake1130 <Snake1130!~MakerBlak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net> has joined #manjaro[21:40:57] <USER101> https://mega.nz/#!Rl9hQKSJ[21:41:00] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/Keq9IQ] MEGA[21:41:03] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has joined #manjaro[21:41:10] <USER101> this is how my installer looks right now[21:41:21] <USER101> whats the next step?[21:41:21] <SanzFC> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Graphical_Installation_Guide_for_Beginners_0.8.8[21:41:22] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/6JbxbB] Graphical Installation Guide for Beginners 0.8.8 - Manjaro Linux[21:41:42] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.161> has joined #manjaro[21:41:49] <Jeannie> Interresting link, pssword protected[21:42:08] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has joined #manjaro[21:42:23] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:43:14] <mtn> USER101: paste your pic to imgur.com and give us the link[21:43:38] <mtn> nice to see the wiki is back up. finally![21:44:08] <SanzFC> First read about disk partitioning[21:47:20] *** not_dammit <not_dammit!~manjaro-k@199-7-157-73.eng.wind.ca> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:47:28] *** not_dammit <not_dammit!~manjaro-k@199-7-157-73.eng.wind.ca> has joined #manjaro[21:48:03] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@ipbcc0f0cb.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:48:44] <USER101> mnt http://imgur.com/5Pjt97b[21:48:45] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/kXaq6x] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[21:48:47] <USER101> http://imgur.com/5Pjt97b here[21:48:47] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/kXaq6x] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[21:50:43] *** Snake1130 <Snake1130!~MakerBlak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:50:49] *** NaoTix <NaoTix!~NaoTix@176.139.185.179> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[21:51:21] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #manjaro[21:51:44] *** Delviax13 <Delviax13!~delvia@ool-44c16817.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[21:51:49] <mtn> USER101: if you doubleclick the free space, does a window come up with options?[21:52:21] *** not_dammit <not_dammit!~manjaro-k@199-7-157-73.eng.wind.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[21:52:22] <Vlado9A> USER101: you need to read manjaro manual as SanzFC said few minutes ago[21:52:44] <Vlado9A> all information you need is there[21:53:38] <USER101> mtn yes man[21:53:46] <Vlado9A> cause it's not easy to explain disk partitioning in several words to a new linux user[21:53:59] <mtn> USER101: give us a pic, imgur.com again[21:54:07] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109.92.154.1> has joined #manjaro[21:54:42] *** USER102 <USER102!bf630065@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.191.99.0.101> has joined #manjaro[21:54:48] <USER102> ok mnt[21:55:07] <USER102> mnt im on my other pc now running linux mint[21:55:16] <USER102> i just got this message[21:56:03] <USER102> http://imgur.com/FqWtk9Q[21:56:04] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/BMEOPw] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[21:56:04] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[21:56:25] <USER102> This machine's firmware has started the installer in UEFI mode but it looks like there may be existing operating systems already installed using "BIOS compatibility mode". If you continue to install Debian in UEFI mode, it might be difficult to reboot the machine into any BIOS-mode operating systems later.[21:56:25] <USER102> If you wish to install in UEFI mode and don't care about keeping the ability to boot one of the existing systems, you have the option to force that here. If you wish to keep the option to boot an existing operating system, you should choose NOT to force UEFI installation here.[21:57:23] <mtn> USER102: so, do you uefi turned on the bios?[21:57:30] <mtn> USER102: or is it legacy boot?[21:58:54] <USER102> i dont know[21:58:59] <USER102> i think its UEFI[21:59:21] <USER102> mnt[21:59:35] <USER102> @ment[21:59:37] <USER102> @mnt[21:59:45] <USER102> mtn[22:00:11] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@109.94.198.70> has joined #manjaro[22:00:33] <mtn> USER102: don't guess. go look. the message you showed us says all you need to know, but you have to go look for sure.[22:00:35] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[22:00:56] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[22:01:36] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@ipbcc0f0cb.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[22:01:56] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@ipbcc0f0cb.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:02:04] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ipbcc0f0cb.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[22:03:05] *** USER101 <USER101!bf630065@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.191.99.0.101> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[22:06:19] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[22:06:29] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[22:06:43] *** USER102 <USER102!bf630065@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.191.99.0.101> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[22:07:27] *** alexandr1 is now known as alexandros_c[22:09:50] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[22:10:02] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[22:10:08] *** Kartenmann <Kartenmann!~manjaro-k@p5DD8321F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Manjaro-KDE user leaving!)[22:12:08] *** alexandr1 is now known as alexandros_c[22:14:03] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[22:16:42] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has joined #manjaro[22:18:07] *** H-H-H <H-H-H!~H-H-H@host-92-10-118-33.as43234.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:18:32] <mparillo> When I was looking for Octopi, I went to: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Octopi The KDE version looks very different, but I would not want to update the wiki if that is still accurate for the Openbox flavour, which is what is shown on https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Graphical_Software_Managers[22:18:33] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/RuyrDv] Octopi - Manjaro Linux[22:19:37] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@162.216.46.83> has joined #manjaro[22:21:17] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@157.122.148.147> has quit IRC (Quit: Nishikino-Maki)[22:23:30] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-13095.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:28:15] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[22:28:59] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@2a02:908:2f32:2960:29af:979c:73be:eac6> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:30:06] *** Deckon <Deckon!~Deckon@unaffiliated/deckon> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:30:11] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.225.139> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:32:09] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[22:36:08] *** danis <danis!~Manjarous@190.72.118.96> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:41:31] *** pingupingu <pingupingu!~pinguping@unaffiliated/pingupingu> has joined #manjaro[22:43:01] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:43:27] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[22:47:36] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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