July 15, 2016 
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July 15, 2016 [00:00:13] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-154-92.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:00:19] <verrlara> :D[00:01:03] <scott_00_> Is everyone else getting very few updates lately? Just wondering if i have a mirror problem.[00:02:15] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[00:02:55] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p5799038A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:04:02] *** pingupingu <pingupingu!~pinguping@unaffiliated/pingupingu> has joined #manjaro[00:05:35] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:05:36] *** SuccessPastaTime <SuccessPastaTime!46b0f163@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.70.176.241.99> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[00:09:58] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[00:12:02] <zero-ghost> scott_00_: try "sudo pacman-mirrors -g"[00:12:05] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@93.170.185.157> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:12:08] <zero-ghost> and then "sudo pacman -Syyu"[00:13:01] <zero-ghost> you can also clean pacman's cache with "sudo pacman -Scc"[00:13:24] <scott_00_> thanks, i'll try it[00:13:30] *** manjaro-web|4155 <manjaro-web|4155!4c458df3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.76.69.141.243> has joined #manjaro[00:13:47] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[00:14:16] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:14:22] *** manjaro-web|4155 <manjaro-web|4155!4c458df3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.76.69.141.243> has left #manjaro[00:15:24] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@94.52.131.232> has joined #manjaro[00:15:47] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@94.52.131.232> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:16:37] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[00:17:15] *** Iron0xid <Iron0xid!~Iron0xid@p54996E9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[00:17:17] *** tumbler <tumbler!~tumbler@unaffiliated/tumbler> has joined #manjaro[00:18:24] *** brenton32839 <brenton32839!~brenton@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has joined #manjaro[00:18:35] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[00:18:44] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as CluelessNewb[00:19:39] <brenton32839> hey guy need help. i have latest manjaro kde. cant mount any usb flash drives at all getting : An error occurred while accessing '961.0 MiB Removable Media', the system responded: The requested operation has failed: Error mounting /dev/sdg at[00:22:42] <scott_00_> have you recently installed? tried a reboot?[00:23:32] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[00:25:02] <CluelessNewb> Uh, where do I change my mouse pointer's speed?[00:25:14] <brenton32839> i will try a reboot. i did update to testing repos[00:25:19] <brenton32839> be right back[00:25:43] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:25:54] *** brenton32839 <brenton32839!~brenton@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:27:35] *** Mishari <Mishari!~Q8@178.161.94.172> has joined #manjaro[00:27:47] <Mishari> Salam 3lekom.[00:27:52] <Mishari> Good morning.[00:28:46] <Mishari> I got stuck in booting message on the screen like: " unable to boot root filesystem "[00:29:01] <Mishari> I got ubuntu os besides manjaro.[00:29:07] *** brenton32839 <brenton32839!~brenton@50-88-169-157.res.bhn.net> has joined #manjaro[00:29:36] <brenton32839> hey a reboot fixed it. who would have thought... thanks[00:29:55] <Mishari> any clue ?[00:30:03] <scott_00_> nice brenton, for an explanation see here https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=140344[00:30:04] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/m5OoEf] [SOLVED] Can't mount USB / Kernel & Hardware / Arch Linux Forums[00:31:22] <Mishari> FatalException, :*[00:31:24] <Mishari> thanks[00:31:33] <brenton32839> ah i see now.[00:31:49] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@mtg44-1-88-173-177-21.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[00:31:51] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@mtg44-1-88-173-177-21.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:32:47] <brenton32839> you know the other night i got someone here to do a pkgbuild and submit pykaraoke. that was so totally awesome.[00:34:09] <brenton32839> i need a plasma widget that will let me control command line version of mplayer.[00:35:44] *** iopar <iopar!~iopar@62.178.156.140> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[00:35:53] *** tulliana <tulliana!~demiray@178.233.235.6> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:37:27] <CluelessNewb> Anyone? Isn't there a simple way to adjust DPI? Nothing fancy, just increase it a bit...[00:38:03] <scott_00_> manjaro settings -> mouse?[00:38:52] <scott_00_> sorry settings ->mouse and touchpad -> sensitivity[00:39:44] <CluelessNewb> I don't see those options at all on KDE.[00:42:28] <brenton32839> sys settings/ input dev/ mouse/ advanced[00:43:49] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@179.247.164.77> has joined #manjaro[00:44:37] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@179.247.164.77> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:44:54] <CluelessNewb> Still no DPI option... would take a screenshot, but Print Screen doesn't work. Don't know if it should.[00:45:08] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p5B208A36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:45:15] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:46:18] <Mishari> manjaro is wonderful, but it needs caring really.[00:46:46] <CluelessNewb> ?[00:47:05] <day|flip> are you talking about there website/wiki issue?[00:47:59] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:48:21] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aupjkqqntypwoxri> has joined #manjaro[00:48:24] <Mishari> all thingd[00:48:28] <Mishari> things*[00:48:37] <day|flip> ehhh[00:48:43] <Mishari> I installed it too many times.[00:48:52] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!wmedrano@nat/google/x-jnbvofgphjpchgsx> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[00:49:07] <day|flip> then learn to stop braking your system[00:49:08] <Mishari> but when I update ubuntu , it breaks the booting grub of manjaro.[00:49:13] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has joined #manjaro[00:49:15] <Mishari> I can't.[00:49:26] <Mishari> I only need to install manjaro alone[00:49:31] <day|flip> i love how stupidly powerful pacman is[00:49:37] <Mishari> lol.[00:49:39] <Mishari> yeah.[00:49:50] <day|flip> you can remove all the package with one word[00:49:55] <Mishari> how ?[00:49:55] <day|flip> pacman -Rcs base[00:50:11] <Mishari> what does that command do ?[00:50:23] <day|flip> pacman is the main package manager[00:50:30] <Mishari> exacylu.[00:50:33] <Mishari> exactly*[00:50:36] <day|flip> there two gui front ends[00:50:38] <bugzbunny> yum is easier :-p[00:50:41] * bugzbunny runs[00:50:46] <Mishari> apt-get also.[00:51:04] <day|flip> pacman really is not that hard to used.[00:51:31] <bugzbunny> apt-get? pfffff...[00:51:44] <brenton32839> you can use acceleration and threshhold to turn mouse sensitivity up and down. i have a huge monitor i like mine turned up a bit.[00:51:50] <day|flip> pisi is easier then apt-get[00:52:18] <Mishari> LOL[00:52:18] <CluelessNewb> Meh. This system is confusing me, even though this isn't my first Linux install. Then again, I probably shouldn't be installing a new OS past midnight. Maybe I should just go back to Windows for the night and try to make this work tomorrow...[00:52:21] <day|flip> brenton32839, 4k?[00:52:30] <brenton32839> you know the turks did such a great job on pardus.[00:52:40] <day|flip> :)[00:52:40] <brenton32839> no not a 4K monitor[00:53:04] <day|flip> never got around using pisi linux[00:53:22] <day|flip> if i remember they took over were pardus left off[00:54:02] <day|flip> CluelessNewb, what the issue you are having?[00:54:02] *** CluelessNewb <CluelessNewb!~manjaro-k@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:54:03] <brenton32839> if you are runing that high a resolution i can imagine you would want the mouse cranked up. just lower threshold to about 2 pixles and increase acc to about 20[00:54:05] <day|flip> dman[00:54:54] <day|flip> im happy with 1080p[00:55:07] <day|flip> right now. it also a 27" monitor[00:58:59] <day|flip> i guess as i'm waiting for this to compile... ehh from other people. it take 2 to 4 hour to compile... i guess I start working on my sddm theme[00:59:00] <bugzbunny> ^5 1080p, 40" and 20" here :) Mfgs just want you buy a GPU for $1000[00:59:18] <day|flip> bugzbunny, is the 40" a tv?[00:59:57] <bugzbunny> day|flip: Yup[01:00:22] <day|flip> my 27" is a monitor with 2ms rate[01:00:34] *** philo <philo!~philo@2601:646:8f01:6e50:968a:5033:2524:4180> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:01:03] <bugzbunny> 2ms rate?[01:01:27] <day|flip> computer monitor are different from tvg[01:01:30] <day|flip> tv**[01:01:59] <day|flip> ms is the rate how fast the monitor can refresh[01:02:18] <day|flip> it good for gaming on console ect[01:03:06] <bugzbunny> I never heard it put that way, my screen is 1080p@60hz[01:03:20] <day|flip> but this monitor have max 60Hz[01:03:49] <bugzbunny> Yum, max is 60hz[01:03:55] <bugzbunny> At 1080p[01:05:22] <day|flip> https://www.amazon.com/VE278Q-1920x1080-DisplayPort-Back-lit-Monitor/dp/B0043T34RK[01:05:26] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/h94EzJ] Amazon.com: ASUS VE278Q 27" Full HD 1920x1080 2ms DisplayPort HDMI DVI-D VGA Back-lit LED Monitor: Computers & Accessories[01:05:27] <day|flip> what im using[01:05:37] *** jonas18175 <jonas18175!~manjaro-k@p5DC31145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:05:45] <bugzbunny> My TV/Monitor has a special mode to decrease latency, I believe :/ Not too sure, haven't much about the settings in awhile[01:06:05] <bugzbunny> day|flip: LOL, my second monitor is a Asus VE, sigh, something lol[01:06:13] *** jonas18175 <jonas18175!~manjaro-k@p5DC31145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[01:06:17] <day|flip> :)[01:07:16] <day|flip> I paid 275usd when I got this thing. it the first monitor i have own that had zero dead pixels[01:07:18] <bugzbunny> day|flip: I have Samsung (I love for the color, the color is vibrant) and ASUS for it's reliabity. I dropped it over 20 times[01:07:24] <day|flip> witch is a god send[01:07:32] * bugzbunny paid < $100 for mine[01:08:07] <day|flip> over 20 times... you move a lot?[01:08:09] * bugzbunny wish he took pictures of one time the monitor dropped and cracked open[01:08:30] <bugzbunny> day|flip: I put it at edge or somewhere I walk buy a lot lol[01:08:50] <bugzbunny> Right now, it's on a fragile card boxed because I don't have enough desk room xD[01:09:17] <day|flip> lol[01:09:53] <bugzbunny> It's just blacks out time to time but other than that... works perfect[01:10:01] <bugzbunny> No cracks, no dead pixels[01:10:18] <day|flip> that nice[01:10:27] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[01:10:38] <day|flip> I had 2 to 3 other monitor before I got this bad boi[01:10:38] <bugzbunny> That's why, the next mobo I buy, will be a Asus[01:10:43] <bugzbunny> nice[01:11:23] <day|flip> mobo... don't care witch company make it. just going make sure it support zen cpu[01:11:48] <day|flip> I been waiting along time to build a new computer[01:12:08] <bugzbunny> Here is mine https://www.amazon.com/Asus-VE228H-21-5-Inches-LCD-Monitor/dp/B00413PHDM[01:12:12] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/kffQgR] Amazon.com: Asus VE228H 21.5-Inches LCD Monitor: Computers & Accessories[01:12:37] <bugzbunny> Nah, day|flip, don't just get anything, trust me..... You going to give yourself headaches[01:12:48] *** tumbler <tumbler!~tumbler@unaffiliated/tumbler> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:13:04] <day|flip> how come?[01:13:37] <bugzbunny> day|flip: I brought this Gigabyte Mobo, 1 week[01:13:38] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[01:13:43] <bugzbunny> It wouldn't POST[01:13:52] <bugzbunny> pfff[01:13:53] <day|flip> I had replace my psu 2 time already with this computer. my mobo is from 2009[01:14:00] <day|flip> using a am2[01:14:08] <bugzbunny> k[01:14:09] <day|flip> cpu[01:14:25] <day|flip> i replace my gpu 2 time[01:14:41] <day|flip> I think i can build my own computer now[01:14:52] <bugzbunny> Not saying you can't[01:15:03] <bugzbunny> But if you a mobo from a horrible mfg[01:15:14] <day|flip> mfg?[01:15:16] <bugzbunny> Watch it kill your PSU, Memory, HDDD[01:15:22] <bugzbunny> Manufacture[01:15:57] <bugzbunny> Then you back at to the store for a) refund or b) RMA[01:16:30] <day|flip> https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-M4A785-M-AMD785G-DDR2-Motherboard/dp/B002OJVNRO/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1468538147&sr=1-1&keywords=M4A785-M[01:16:33] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/T0kl3z] Amazon.com: ASUS M4A785-M - AM3 - AMD785G - DDR2 - HDMI - uATX Motherboard: Computers & Accessories[01:16:42] <day|flip> that my mobo[01:16:48] <day|flip> lol it asus[01:18:01] <bugzbunny> Yup[01:18:03] <bugzbunny> This is mine http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5289#ov[01:18:07] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/aBWfR7] GIGABYTE - Motherboard - Socket FM2+ - GA-F2A68HM-HD2 (rev. 1.0)[01:18:27] <bugzbunny> I will never buy another Gigabyte again, it's either ASUS or MSI[01:18:38] <day|flip> AMD Phenom II X4 965 (-MCP-) <---- the very best cpu i was able to get for this mobo[01:18:48] <day|flip> msi is that good?[01:19:25] <bugzbunny> I dunno, but I read good reviews on MSI[01:19:57] * bugzbunny has AMD A8-7600... My next mobo, looking into a FX chip[01:20:27] * day|flip be looking at zen cpu for my next build[01:21:12] <bugzbunny> nice[01:21:15] <day|flip> zen cpu is going lower power used compare to fx[01:21:20] <bugzbunny> I might opt for zen, we see[01:21:24] <day|flip> but be as fast[01:21:51] <bugzbunny> It's not out yet, AMD love to talk a lot, but hardly deliver but I am AMD fan till I die[01:24:32] <day|flip> for cpu. i don't mind amd[01:25:03] <day|flip> i'm not a hard core gamer. but i don't like my computer lagging[01:25:51] *** jonas18175-dev <jonas18175-dev!~jtschoch@p5DC31145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[01:26:33] <bugzbunny> yup[01:27:41] *** fred-fri <fred-fri!~fred-fri@59-100-209-246.bri.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #manjaro[01:28:29] *** jonas18175-dev <jonas18175-dev!~jtschoch@p5DC31145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:28:32] *** fred-fri <fred-fri!~fred-fri@59-100-209-246.bri.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has left #manjaro[01:28:41] *** jonas18175 <jonas18175!~manjaro-k@p5DC31145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:28:57] *** jonas18175 <jonas18175!~manjaro-k@p5DC31145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[01:30:56] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP140-04-1279466806.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[01:36:11] *** NaoTix <NaoTix!~NaoTix@176.139.185.179> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[01:42:22] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[01:48:54] *** bad63r <bad63r!~bad63r@178-221-146-136.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[01:51:49] *** bad63r <bad63r!~bad63r@178-221-146-136.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Changing host)[01:51:49] *** bad63r <bad63r!~bad63r@unaffiliated/bad63r> has joined #manjaro[01:51:58] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@108.61.123.68> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:55:14] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!wmedrano@nat/google/x-baobziugbpehwzlh> has joined #manjaro[01:57:09] *** Mishari <Mishari!~Q8@178.161.94.172> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:57:28] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[02:08:50] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:11:38] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!wmedrano@nat/google/x-baobziugbpehwzlh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[02:12:13] <bad63r> everybody sleeping? :D[02:12:23] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@181.131.31.252> has joined #manjaro[02:12:28] <bad63r> I'm doing some hard coding shit in VHDL 8-)[02:16:55] <day|flip> vhdl?[02:19:10] <day|flip> im trying to compile fifth. it a fltk web browser using webkit.[02:19:39] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:21:52] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[02:25:23] <verrlara> day|flip:[02:25:26] <verrlara> day|flip: question[02:25:29] <day|flip> yes[02:25:41] <verrlara> day|flip: where would I find my thermal sensors in the file system.[02:26:08] <day|flip> i think there a package for that.[02:26:31] <verrlara> lm_sensors?[02:26:41] <day|flip> ya[02:26:44] <verrlara> It shows that I have sensors and the temp but I am not seeing paths.[02:29:08] <day|flip> inxi -v3?[02:29:52] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[02:29:59] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!wmedrano@nat/google/x-xhwjcvromkbbmtoe> has joined #manjaro[02:30:01] *** clements <clements!~Manjarous@2601:807:4101:c2d0:922b:34ff:fe50:2a82> has joined #manjaro[02:30:05] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[02:30:46] <clements> anyone know why some steam games just insta crash as soon as i try to start them?[02:31:06] <clements> its a thing the periodically happens.. seems to mostly unity games[02:32:01] <day|flip> i think it have something to do with manjaro nvidia driver. since they used stable version of the driver that come out[02:32:24] <clements> hmm[02:33:12] <day|flip> Latest Short Lived Branch version: 364.19 ... they seem to follow the latest short lived[02:33:35] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:33:56] <day|flip> local/linux44-nvidia 1:364.19-7.. im on testing repo[02:34:51] <day|flip> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html[02:34:52] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/xr6UCs] Unix Drivers | NVIDIA[02:36:28] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[02:37:25] *** jonas18175 <jonas18175!~manjaro-k@p5DC31145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[02:37:38] <day|flip> verrlara, sorry if i was not helpful[02:37:49] *** timb1ts <timb1ts!~timb1ts@unaffiliated/timb1ts> has joined #manjaro[02:37:50] <verrlara> No worries. I found it.[02:38:17] <brenton32839> im on latest manjaro kde testing. thinking about adding additional lighter desktop environment. i have heard more than one DE is not a good idea. any thoughts?[02:38:18] <day|flip> i know that inxi used lm to show your status of it[02:38:41] <day|flip> lxqt[02:39:00] <day|flip> you can make it look god like good if you have the time for it[02:39:24] <brenton32839> would adding lxqt cause any conflict with kde?[02:39:28] <day|flip> brenton32839, http://i.imgur.com/JnbtZ10.png[02:39:29] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/fQ5S3x] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[02:39:37] <day|flip> why? it used qt[02:39:45] <day|flip> kde is mix of qml and qt[02:40:08] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:43:35] <bad63r> day|flip, ye, vhdl- very high speed hardware description language[02:43:56] <day|flip> ah. don't know much about it.[02:44:54] <bad63r> btw I'm really impressed how stable manjaro is. I was like 2 years on arch and bcs of lack of time i switched to manjaro[02:45:00] *** Mate-user1512 <Mate-user1512!~manjaro-m@117.167.243.68> has joined #manjaro[02:45:08] <bad63r> but dammn. like 8 m now and 0 crash or someting to solve[02:45:20] <Mate-user1512> hello kogou[02:46:23] *** Mate-user1512 is now known as lu958622360[02:46:29] *** clements <clements!~Manjarous@2601:807:4101:c2d0:922b:34ff:fe50:2a82> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:48:40] <day|flip> bad63r, manjaro is stable. if you feel to have manjaro to be a little more up to date. you could switch repo. I used testing repo. there unstable. witch keep up with arch stable[02:49:39] <bad63r> Ya i know. I'm totally fine bcs I use this laptop as my stable working machine ;)[02:49:52] <day|flip> :)[02:50:07] <bad63r> I just don't like this new forum[02:50:14] <bad63r> old one was much more profesional[02:52:12] <day|flip> will thank the owner of the old forum for being very very hard to get a hold of. it working in the middle east. and he the only one that have the right to change the forum[02:52:22] *** Smeef <Smeef!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[02:53:23] *** lu958622360 <lu958622360!~manjaro-m@117.167.243.68> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:53:56] <day|flip> becuase of the ssl expired. they had to change thing to have more control. time like this is make manjaro look bad. but i say. try the distro before bashing the site issue. nobody is perfect[02:54:43] <bad63r> where do u live, what is ur middle east?[02:54:45] <bad63r> xD[02:54:53] *** scott_00_ <scott_00_!~scott@CPE-121-223-6-32.lnse2.cha.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:54:56] <day|flip> lol[02:55:05] <day|flip> me... i lived in the US[02:56:02] <bad63r> Your middle east is my west :D , kinda[02:56:13] <day|flip> :)[02:58:36] <brenton32839> widgets on plasma seem to be lock to grid type behaviour. how can i make them a little more free floating?[03:04:20] <day|flip> unlock your widgets[03:05:01] <day|flip> if i remember right. there a icon in the top right corner of your screen for widget[03:05:03] *** bad63r <bad63r!~bad63r@unaffiliated/bad63r> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:05:30] *** cscs <cscs!~cscs@c-98-246-77-16.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[03:09:25] <brenton32839> https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/41ri8h/widgets_snap_to_grid_how_to_disable_that/[03:09:26] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/11tMOD] (link was unresponsive: https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/41ri8h/widgets_snap_to_grid_how_to_disable_that/)[03:10:41] *** hisforever <hisforever!~Manjarous@192.161.76.87> has joined #manjaro[03:11:25] <brenton32839> i changed default cell size value from 6 to 3 as per instructions at that link. have to reboot to see changes. 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Both forum work, for me[13:17:15] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:17:27] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[13:18:37] *** gpunk <gpunk!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has joined #manjaro[13:20:01] *** semeion <semeion!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has joined #manjaro[13:20:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v semeion[13:20:30] <Official-Tr0ll> the main site.......it seems its been white for a day or so[13:21:36] <Esclapion> https://forum.manjaro.org/ works for me[13:21:37] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/gwp5v6] Manjaro[13:22:12] *** ace139 <ace139!~Soumyo@14.139.221.18> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:23:21] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@77.233.11.223> has joined #manjaro[13:23:21] <peetaur2> Official-Tr0ll: are you trolling?[13:23:35] *** Nishikino-Maki1 <Nishikino-Maki1!~Thunderbi@223.72.251.249> has joined #manjaro[13:23:48] <peetaur2> Official-Tr0ll: the site has an expired cert, so you have to add an exception....which firefox won't let you do except in private browsing mode. And maybe other browsers won't let you do it at all.[13:24:03] <Official-Tr0ll> obviously not if you go look at the page and posts in the forum[13:25:19] <Official-Tr0ll> thats the old address with the cert problem the new one has been down since 11.30 GERMAN TIME yesterday[13:25:33] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@223.72.251.248> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:25:34] *** Nishikino-Maki1 is now known as Nishikino-Maki[13:25:58] <Official-Tr0ll> seems forum is the only thing working..[13:26:17] <peetaur2> you mean http://manjaro.github.io/? which works for me[13:26:18] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/SgCc7j] Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity[13:26:37] <Esclapion> now : http://i.imgur.com/MFybJbl.png[13:26:38] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/uT50rQ] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[13:29:56] *** spaceraven <spaceraven!~spacerave@62.148.146.189> has joined #manjaro[13:33:21] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-12744.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined 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<manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@95.12.211.79> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:10:48] *** iopar <iopar!~iopar@213.227.165.4> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[19:12:34] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@189.59.180.4.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has joined #manjaro[19:15:23] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@122.162.95.17> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[19:15:33] *** mr_hubot <mr_hubot!~hubert@078088143215.jeleniagora.vectranet.pl> has joined #manjaro[19:15:48] <mr_hubot> What is differences between Mint and Manjaro?[19:16:35] <Strit_Laptop> Mint is based on Ubuntu. Manjaro is based on Arch.[19:16:40] <Strit_Laptop> They are very different.[19:17:58] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@182.69.35.185> has joined #manjaro[19:17:59] <mr_hubot> How system is easier to beginner in Linux?[19:18:03] <mtn> mr_hubot: both easy to use, but manjaro is a rolling distro[19:20:03] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.160> has joined #manjaro[19:20:04] <mr_hubot> Manjaro is more up-to-date?[19:20:14] <mtn> mr_hubot: yes[19:20:35] <mtn> mr_hubot: maybe you should look at their webpages. and read the distrowatch reviews[19:20:49] <mr_hubot> How repositories Manjaro uses?[19:21:16] <mtn> mr_hubot: read the distrowatch reviews[19:21:29] <mr_hubot> Ok[19:21:47] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[19:22:41] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@189.62.171.146> has joined #manjaro[19:23:49] <vexare> i switched to manjaro testing[19:24:33] <mtn> I'm sorry[19:24:55] <vexare> everything works fine[19:25:13] <vexare> i dunno why stable is so stuck into time[19:25:19] <mtn> heh[19:26:34] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@189.62.171.146> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:27:12] *** marco-parillo <marco-parillo!d8cb060b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.203.6.11> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[19:28:30] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[19:30:44] *** airsoftmodels <airsoftmodels!~airsoftmo@2602:306:8358:c070:b1a0:32d6:46ce:5f4e> has joined #manjaro[19:31:13] *** ok91 <ok91!~oleg@unaffiliated/ok91> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:32:37] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.45> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:34:03] <airsoftmodels> why does the wiki.manjaro.org use an invalid security certificate?[19:37:56] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has joined #manjaro[19:38:28] <airsoftmodels> it says the cert expired on 5/9/16[19:40:34] <airsoftmodels> neither firefox or chrome will let me go there.[19:40:46] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@154.241.118.242> has joined #manjaro[19:40:54] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@154.241.118.242> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:41:01] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@aftr-37-201-192-81.unity-media.net> has joined #manjaro[19:42:43] *** jinsun <jinsun!~sm@124.155.253.186> has joined #manjaro[19:43:14] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~flipper@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has joined #manjaro[19:44:34] *** airsoftmodels <airsoftmodels!~airsoftmo@2602:306:8358:c070:b1a0:32d6:46ce:5f4e> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:44:51] *** airsoftmodels <airsoftmodels!~airsoftmo@2602:306:8358:c070:b1a0:32d6:46ce:5f4e> has joined #manjaro[19:45:31] *** jinsun <jinsun!~sm@124.155.253.186> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:46:56] *** jinsun <jinsun!~sm@124.155.253.186> has joined #manjaro[19:48:06] *** jinsun <jinsun!~sm@124.155.253.186> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:48:31] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@176.59.5.128> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:48:54] <tefter> what's up with manjaro org and firefox 47?[19:49:17] <tefter> epiphany opens no problem firefox shows b;ank page[19:49:19] <Strit_Laptop> airsoftmodels, the cert just expired and hasn't been renewed.[19:49:28] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has joined #manjaro[19:50:00] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@aftr-37-201-192-81.unity-media.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[19:50:18] <airsoftmodels> Strit_Laptop: ok[19:50:31] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:54:01] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:57:07] *** airsoftmodels <airsoftmodels!~airsoftmo@2602:306:8358:c070:b1a0:32d6:46ce:5f4e> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:57:39] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@2.187.156.139> has joined #manjaro[19:57:39] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@176.59.5.128> has joined #manjaro[19:57:52] <manjaro-kde5_> hi[19:58:06] <manjaro-kde5_> how can I update yaourt[19:58:08] <manjaro-kde5_> ?[19:59:08] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@154.241.118.242> has joined #manjaro[19:59:48] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has joined #manjaro[20:04:35] *** manjMate-user <manjMate-user!~manjaro-m@79.106.109.171> has joined #manjaro[20:05:04] *** Oldiesmann <Oldiesmann!~Oldiesman@simplemachines/developer/Oldiesmann> has quit IRC (Quit: No, no, no. 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(in arch it is not)[20:53:13] <Strit_Laptop> it is in manjaro.[20:53:30] *** eizua <eizua!~eizua@122.2.98.233> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:53:36] <madknight> then it updates via normal manjaro pacman update :)[20:54:17] <Strit_Laptop> yep[20:55:07] *** bolvary <bolvary!~Thunderbi@adsl-62-167-57-4.adslplus.ch> has joined #manjaro[21:01:37] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@ip4-83-240-73-44.cust.nbox.cz> has joined #manjaro[21:02:22] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@189-46-37-137.dsl.telesp.net.br> has joined #manjaro[21:02:40] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@189-46-37-137.dsl.telesp.net.br> has left #manjaro[21:03:26] *** Manj-1605-Lxqt <Manj-1605-Lxqt!~a@x590c3ddf.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[21:04:08] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@ip4-83-240-73-44.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:04:47] *** Manj-1605-Lxqt <Manj-1605-Lxqt!~a@x590c3ddf.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:07:15] <bolvary> Hi, I have installed xfce but it is too heavy for my old laptop. Is there a guide similar to switching to KDE and Gnome for LXDE or LXQt because I think that these would be better suited for my hardware?[21:07:57] <mtn> bolvary: the arch wiki would be a big help to you[21:08:41] <mtn> bolvary: kde and gnome are very "heavy", you don't want to use them[21:09:19] <bolvary> mtn: I know, that is why I would like to have lxde or lxqt. Which one do you recommend?[21:09:36] <mtn> bolvary: I have never used either of them[21:09:54] <bolvary> mtn: Which one is lighter?[21:10:17] <mtn> bolvary: I have no idea, since I have never used either of them ;)[21:10:45] <bolvary> mtn: Thanks, I will look into the arch wiki[21:12:02] *** mac__ <mac__!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:12:21] *** mac__ <mac__!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[21:12:33] *** fradd <fradd!~fradd@unaffiliated/fradd> has joined #manjaro[21:12:58] *** mac__ <mac__!~mac@95.211.205.141> has left #manjaro[21:13:16] *** mac__ <mac__!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[21:15:07] *** mac__ is now known as mac1202[21:15:25] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:15:48] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[21:17:12] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@189.59.180.4.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has joined #manjaro[21:17:51] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~manjaro-k@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[21:18:04] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[21:18:56] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.45> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:20:57] *** astrofog <astrofog!~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog> has joined #manjaro[21:22:31] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[21:23:16] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.124.24> has joined #manjaro[21:23:26] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@189.59.180.4.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:23:33] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@189.59.180.4.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has joined #manjaro[21:23:43] <NoirLess> any news about updates, guys? Ik, its summer and etc, but anyway[21:23:52] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.160> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[21:24:14] <Strit_Laptop> NoirLess, Phil is very busy at work, but he just did another testing update.[21:24:45] <NoirLess> Strit_Laptop, ah, okie then[21:24:56] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@189.59.180.4.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:29:27] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@162.216.46.193> has joined #manjaro[21:30:00] *** tumbler <tumbler!~tumbler@unaffiliated/tumbler> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:39:12] *** semeion <semeion!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[21:40:28] *** semeion <semeion!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has joined #manjaro[21:40:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v semeion[21:40:32] *** semeion is now known as mnemonic[21:42:05] *** gpunk <gpunk!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:43:26] *** gpunk <gpunk!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has joined #manjaro[21:43:28] *** RhinoFlip <RhinoFlip!~filip@37-48-22-200.tmcz.cz> has joined #manjaro[21:43:33] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:43:47] <RhinoFlip> what up[21:43:57] *** JoeMaro1 <JoeMaro1!~Thunderbi@p57B408CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[21:44:19] <NoirLess> guys, did someone try manjaro-kde? is it stable enough, or plasma still crashes?[21:46:29] <RhinoFlip> i have problem with default user/password prompt.. it still want me to log in[21:46:37] <RhinoFlip> like hundred times again and again[21:47:14] *** manjMate-user <manjMate-user!~manjaro-m@79.106.109.171> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:50:59] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-12744.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:51:08] <RhinoFlip> i'm trying to fiddle QEMU, but i'm not sure where nor what is the problem[21:51:49] *** poser_destroyer <poser_destroyer!~poser_des@79.106.109.171> has joined #manjaro[21:51:55] *** poser_destroyer <poser_destroyer!~poser_des@79.106.109.171> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:52:12] *** D3mian <D3mian!~manjaro-k@206.132.109.74> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[21:52:21] *** fradd <fradd!~fradd@unaffiliated/fradd> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:52:24] *** D3mian <D3mian!~manjaro-k@206.132.109.74> has joined #manjaro[21:56:57] *** D3mian <D3mian!~manjaro-k@206.132.109.74> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[21:57:39] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~stuart@199.116.226.109> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[21:57:47] *** albitos <albitos!~albitos@89-72-123-136.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[21:57:47] <albitos> l[21:57:52] <albitos> hello[21:58:04] <albitos> does anyone have memory leak after updating today to plasma 5.7?[21:58:43] <RhinoFlip> ok, i have workaround[21:59:07] <albitos> i literally do nothing and watch my system consume more and more RAM O.O[21:59:13] <RhinoFlip> i wanted to install mandjaro anyway, so i logged as root and started with setup-cli[21:59:17] <albitos> 7GB right now[21:59:27] <albitos> just konsole and irssi running...[22:01:09] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~stuart@199.116.225.253> has joined #manjaro[22:06:35] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@182.69.35.185> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[22:08:17] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:09:45] *** albitos <albitos!~albitos@89-72-123-136.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[22:09:47] *** RhinoFlip <RhinoFlip!~filip@37-48-22-200.tmcz.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:10:03] *** RocknRolf <RocknRolf!~rolf@ip5f5afb2a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:11:49] <mparillo> Plasma 5.7? Are you using the testing repos?[22:12:36] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@176.59.5.128> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[22:13:10] *** RhinoFlip <RhinoFlip!~filip@37-48-22-200.tmcz.cz> has joined #manjaro[22:18:16] *** Iron0xid <Iron0xid!~Iron0xid@p5B28CFFE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[22:18:48] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.124.24> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[22:19:35] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[22:20:09] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.159> has joined #manjaro[22:21:34] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@chello089173005239.chello.sk> has joined #manjaro[22:21:34] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@chello089173005239.chello.sk> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:22:13] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.159> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:22:44] *** RhinoFlip <RhinoFlip!~filip@37-48-22-200.tmcz.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[22:24:15] *** ravenow <ravenow!~ravenow@217.107.125.35> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:24:32] <bad63r> mparillo, he has to. there is no 5.7 in stable yet[22:24:45] <bad63r> plasma 5.7 just came like 2 weeks ago to arch stable[22:24:46] <bad63r> or les[22:24:47] <bad63r> less[22:25:05] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@177.94.108.110> has joined #manjaro[22:25:37] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@177.94.108.110> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:25:49] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has joined #manjaro[22:28:35] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[22:30:56] *** bolvary <bolvary!~Thunderbi@adsl-62-167-57-4.adslplus.ch> has quit IRC (Quit: bolvary)[22:34:03] *** mr_hubot <mr_hubot!~hubert@078088143215.jeleniagora.vectranet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[22:35:42] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[22:38:31] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@182.69.35.185> has joined #manjaro[22:39:51] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.45> has joined #manjaro[22:41:06] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[22:46:02] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.124.24> has joined #manjaro[22:46:54] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@acpy212.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[22:46:55] *** mr_hubot <mr_hubot!~hubert@078088143215.jeleniagora.vectranet.pl> has joined #manjaro[22:47:04] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.13.176> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[22:47:23] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cbrnfpgrbrrvirje> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[22:49:13] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-092-076-215-066.092.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:50:34] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-092-076-215-066.092.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[22:53:01] *** Cookiehunter <Cookiehunter!~cookiehun@host81-140-169-203.range81-140.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[22:53:33] *** mr_hubot <mr_hubot!~hubert@078088143215.jeleniagora.vectranet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:55:02] *** bad63r <bad63r!~bad63r@unaffiliated/bad63r> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[22:56:29] *** not_dammit <not_dammit!~manjaro-k@209.171.88.11> has joined #manjaro[22:59:16] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-89-241-175-89.as13285.net> has joined #manjaro[23:01:55] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mipatsuchlorjswj> has joined #manjaro[23:06:01] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~flipper@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:06:27] *** not_dammit <not_dammit!~manjaro-k@209.171.88.11> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[23:07:53] *** manots <manots!~computer@24-217-91-243.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[23:15:36] *** bad63r <bad63r!~bad63r@109-92-82-12.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[23:16:35] *** ggr <ggr!~ggr@143-122-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #manjaro[23:17:07] *** linux-dream <linux-dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has joined #manjaro[23:19:02] *** Drunk_Rye <Drunk_Rye!~Drunk@35.47.202.84.customer.cdi.no> has joined #manjaro[23:19:35] *** OrangeRange <OrangeRange!~manjaro@dynamic-92-244-151-215.cpe.vektor.net> has joined #manjaro[23:20:28] <OrangeRange> Hi guys, I just booted up Manjaro in live session but I dont have sound.. Can anyone help me?[23:21:49] <mtn> OrangeRange: have you tried using pavucontrol to check your devices and settings?[23:22:24] <OrangeRange> mtn, im using default volume icon in manjaro xfce[23:22:51] <mtn> OrangeRange: see if pavucontrol is installed. install if necessary[23:23:55] *** Iron0xid <Iron0xid!~Iron0xid@p5B28CFFE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:24:20] *** Drunk_Rye <Drunk_Rye!~Drunk@35.47.202.84.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:24:23] <OrangeRange> It's a shame I have to use pulseaudio for my sound to work. That is most unfortunate.[23:24:49] <mtn> OrangeRange: it happens on all distros from time to time. depends on the hardware, of course[23:25:30] <OrangeRange> mtn, pavucontrol hangs on "Establishing a connection to PulseAudio. Please wait."[23:25:35] *** Iron0xid <Iron0xid!~Iron0xid@p5B28CFFE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[23:26:02] <mtn> OrangeRange: I wonder if you have a bad install disk or had an error when you made it[23:26:03] *** Cookiehunter <Cookiehunter!~cookiehun@host81-140-169-203.range81-140.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:27:20] <OrangeRange> Didn't get any errors. How can I check if this burn is valid?[23:27:36] *** ggr <ggr!~ggr@143-122-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[23:28:12] <mike-zal> OrangeRange: check out other official manjaro release. if it will work then probably the first one was somehow corrupted. or you can try one of many community editions like gnome one, which is very good.[23:28:37] <mtn> though the gnome one completely failed the last big gnome upgrade :([23:28:54] *** OrangeRange <OrangeRange!~manjaro@dynamic-92-244-151-215.cpe.vektor.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:29:05] *** skulltus <skulltus!~skulltus@62.73.108.6> has joined #manjaro[23:29:38] <mike-zal> OrangeRange: you can check checksum, it should be in sourceforge to download, then use some checksum utility to see if it matches[23:30:56] <mike-zal> mtn: heh? that's new to me. my gnome installation is from last year and working well continously, alongside plasma that I added to it.[23:31:35] <mtn> mike-zal: on two different computers, complete failure during that last big upgrade.[23:32:11] <mike-zal> gnome 3.20 update went rather smoothly. I had to uncheck extention version check to be able to turn most of them on, but 99% of them worked in new gnome version so there was no issue[23:32:43] <mike-zal> mtn: is that your experinece or some general issue?[23:32:47] <mtn> mike-zal: strange how it could be so different on different computers. yours was installed from the gnome community version?[23:32:57] <mike-zal> yes[23:33:02] <mtn> mike-zal: mine too[23:33:27] <mike-zal> probably 12-15 or whatever version it was at the end of the last year[23:33:44] <mike-zal> working fine[23:34:24] <mtn> mike-zal: mine was from around then, too. the desktop was locked, network manager was removed, etc.[23:34:41] <mike-zal> well, I deleted evolution suite from it, and also pamac but rest is there[23:35:00] <mtn> mike-zal: I mean the upgrade made those changes[23:35:16] <mtn> mike-zal: I was happy with it until then ;)[23:35:21] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@138.204.143.58> has joined #manjaro[23:35:31] <mike-zal> hmm... again, was that only your experience or others had that issue too?[23:35:41] <mtn> mike-zal: mine and someone else, too[23:36:15] <mike-zal> it seems then that there is some issue but just few had it[23:36:32] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@138.204.143.58> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:36:39] <mtn> mike-zal: those are always the best :P[23:36:56] <mtn> mike-zal: now I am using kde, which is great, so it was not a total loss[23:37:00] <mike-zal> yeah, no one knows what went wrong[23:37:27] <mtn> mike-zal: makes me nervous about manjaro, though[23:37:33] <mike-zal> I'm using both, kde and gnome. usually more kde but lately more gnome because it's more optimized for steam ;p[23:37:39] <mtn> mike-zal: the wiki issue doesn't help, either[23:38:31] * bugzbunny would like to try KDE in a VM[23:38:57] <bugzbunny> I figure, installing KDE along side Mate is a bad idea xD[23:39:04] <mike-zal> luckily I was able to access manjaro wiki through vivaldi. still, I am suprised they didn't move it. it lasts months... this should be priority. distro cannot be user friendly or inviting without proper documentation[23:39:32] <mtn> mike-zal: I agree[23:40:00] <mtn> bugzbunny: you can install both, as long as you make a new user to use kde. that way the configs will stay seperate[23:40:34] <mike-zal> bugzbunny: why? gnome and kde work well. I don't see why mate and kde would be problematic. two different DEs, using different technologies, they should have been very seperate. however it's better to keep gtk and qt programs for any of them, so the content may be doubled[23:40:35] <bugzbunny> mtn: It's not that you can't, it just, it's very likely to break my system[23:40:51] <bugzbunny> I use the same home for KDE and GNOME in the past without issue...[23:40:51] <mtn> bugzbunny: why would it do that? no reason I can see[23:41:05] <bugzbunny> mtn: LOL, the horrors I read on this channel[23:41:08] <bugzbunny> xD[23:41:13] <bugzbunny> no no no[23:41:29] <mtn> bugzbunny: with gnome and kde, there will be some bleed over in my experience. I won't share configs between them any more[23:41:34] <bugzbunny> Besides, I don't think 20GB is enough for both[23:42:18] <bugzbunny> Some one installed KDE, then later on install XFCE, then finish with a re-install[23:42:38] <mike-zal> the only bleed was evolution suite from gnome (it autostarts on all DEs) - delete. or akonadi from kde - also delete[23:42:42] *** bandithijo <bandithijo!~bandithij@36.83.42.218> has joined #manjaro[23:43:20] <mike-zal> bugzbunny: I was experimenting with DEs and it's not so bad, however there are some minor issues.[23:43:22] <mike-zal> for example:[23:44:30] *** skulltus <skulltus!~skulltus@62.73.108.6> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:44:40] <mike-zal> manjaro kde + gnome + i3 + deepin, deepin dock was autstarting randomly on... i3...[23:44:58] <mike-zal> when I added xfce it worked but couldn;t run compiz or kwin on it[23:45:07] <bugzbunny> i c[23:45:08] <mike-zal> while on clean xfce there is no problem[23:46:05] <mike-zal> also docky was autostarting in several DEs even if I didn't want it (again with deepin: has own dock but docky was showing)[23:46:24] *** sgm is now known as void9[23:46:25] <bugzbunny> Okay, I think, I'll give it a shot[23:46:26] <mike-zal> but in overall, you can add lot of DEs and make it work[23:46:31] <bugzbunny> What KDE packages should I install?[23:46:48] *** GenZai <GenZai!~emil@mnt60-1-88-186-66-2.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:46:53] <bugzbunny> I would backup my /, but it will take forever, plus I don't any place to back it up too[23:47:06] <mike-zal> currently I have: gnome, kde, lxqt and they work well, no issues. but like I said, I got rid of akonadi and all evolution+telephaty programs from gnome[23:47:37] <mtn> bugzbunny: Not having backups means you don't care about losing your personal files and settings.[23:47:49] <mike-zal> probably plasma-desktop. will take a look on my notices.[23:48:08] <mike-zal> uh, backup is essential[23:48:17] <mike-zal> usually when something can go wrong it does... ;)[23:48:19] <mtn> bugzbunny: the arch wiki will tell you what to install for any desktop[23:49:15] <mike-zal> bugzbunny: just copy your home folder, that's the major backup (no programs but all their setttings will be there alongside your personal files)[23:49:53] <mike-zal> send it to cloud, ftp, pendrive, external drive, etc.[23:49:58] <bugzbunny> I have home on separate partition[23:50:33] <bugzbunny> The reason I mention about backing up /, is so I can quickly restore root[23:50:33] <mtn> bugzbunny: a seperate partition is not a replacement for a backup[23:50:39] <mike-zal> backup means a calm mind. I scewed my system many times so I learned to watch buckups so now I don't wory if anything goes wrong[23:51:36] <mike-zal> ah, when home is seperate then it should work as long you don't mix partitions during potential system install ;)[23:52:08] <mtn> yes, nothing should break, unless it does :P[23:52:10] <bugzbunny> My critical files are already backed up to a cloud[23:52:21] <bugzbunny> I will be just be losing my configuration[23:52:25] *** bandithijo <bandithijo!~bandithij@36.83.42.218> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:52:56] <mike-zal> I also learned, that external backup drive CANNOT under ANY circumstances be connected to computer during system installas or partition changes[23:53:09] <mtn> heh[23:53:45] <bugzbunny> Pff[23:53:53] <bugzbunny> I never made that mistake[23:53:56] <bugzbunny> :-p[23:54:11] <mike-zal> I did xD and I never will again ;)[23:56:04] <mike-zal> anyway, seperate home is good but it's like connected backup drive, it's not 100% safe[23:56:43] <bugzbunny> yeah[23:56:51] <bugzbunny> I always go for Manual partition[23:57:13] <bugzbunny> If anything breaks here, I blaming you guys xD[23:58:00] <mtn> bugzbunny: money back guarantee![23:58:14] <mike-zal> yeah, "MONEY" ;)[23:58:39] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!wmedrano@nat/google/x-wgkrxhohfeseyiii> has joined #manjaro[23:59:33] *** linux-dream <linux-dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)