July 14, 2016 
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July 14, 2016 [00:02:10] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~flipper@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:03:46] <w30> CountryfiedLinux, Tried an new hot distros?[00:05:25] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:07:00] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[00:08:48] *** Snake1130 <Snake1130!~MakerBlak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net> has joined #manjaro[00:09:31] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[00:12:36] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:14:02] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@138.219.49.156> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:14:08] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@138.219.49.156> has joined #manjaro[00:14:44] <BryzNSTY> is there a way to find the path of a file I know the name of?[00:16:07] <BryzNSTY> For example, im looking for "pacman.conf"[00:16:52] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:17:45] <w30> BryzNSTY, in terminal type locate pacman.conf[00:18:25] <verrlara> Don't you have to first download 'mlocate' and do sudo updatedb first?[00:19:06] <mtn> BryzNSTY: the file manager can search for files, too[00:19:46] *** jinsun <jinsun!~sm@124.155.252.52> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:20:19] <BryzNSTY> I prefer working in the terminal especially when i need root[00:20:37] <mtn> BryzNSTY: sure, but the gui is much easier ;)[00:20:50] <BryzNSTY> w30: works perfectly, thanks - ive been looking for something like this for a long time[00:21:24] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[00:26:07] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has joined #manjaro[00:28:12] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy[00:28:21] <w30> mtn, the command line is more powerful if you know how; which I don't *sigh*[00:28:24] <CountryfiedLinux> Yes w30 I recently made a Peppermint OS 8 video.[00:28:51] <CountryfiedLinux> w30, oops, that is OS 7 actually.[00:28:53] *** douglasb <douglasb!~douglasb@2804:7f5:280:641a::2> has joined #manjaro[00:28:53] <mtn> w30: it is very powerful. I use it, too. but, I use the gui when it is faster/easier[00:29:11] *** douglasb <douglasb!~douglasb@2804:7f5:280:641a::2> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:29:23] *** scott_ <scott_!~scott@CPE-123-211-11-82.lnse3.cha.bigpond.net.au> has joined #manjaro[00:29:46] *** scott_ is now known as Guest58933[00:29:53] <w30> CountryfiedLinux, /me goes off to look at it....[00:30:26] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:31:03] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has joined #manjaro[00:31:14] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:34:21] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has joined #manjaro[00:34:32] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.159> has joined #manjaro[00:35:03] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.126.78> has joined #manjaro[00:35:03] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@2a02:908:2f32:2960:5f6:b859:1ae8:3f96> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:36:01] *** kaelthas <kaelthas!~kaelthas@unaffiliated/kaelthas> has joined #manjaro[00:36:02] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:38:01] <kaelthas> Hi guys, is it possible for me to expand the size of my Manjaro Linux?[00:38:49] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@d54C44C51.access.telenet.be> has joined #manjaro[00:38:58] <mtn> kaelthas: yes, use gparted from a live disk. make sure to have backups first ;)[00:39:49] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@d54C44C51.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:39:50] *** AndChat|265524 <AndChat|265524!~PMunch@d54C44C51.access.telenet.be> has joined #manjaro[00:40:08] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:40:40] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has joined #manjaro[00:40:41] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:43:17] <kaelthas> Thank you, I will.[00:44:03] <CountryfiedLinux> Also let me know what y'all think of Linux Girl In Training. New to the show.[00:44:31] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@138.219.49.156> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:45:12] <Guest58933> Hi Countryfied, love your show. Great work.[00:45:46] <AndChat|265524> You've got a show CountryfiedLinux?[00:46:17] <CountryfiedLinux> AndChat|265524, It's my 3rd most recent video I think.[00:46:40] *** Manj-811-Xfce2 <Manj-811-Xfce2!~christina@96-37-225-177.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:46:41] <kaelthas> Linux Girl In Training?[00:46:51] <kaelthas> Can I get a link?[00:46:52] <AndChat|265524> Hmm, weird. My nick doesn't display properly..[00:47:03] <CountryfiedLinux> www.youtube.com/countryfiedlinux/videos[00:47:06] <CountryfiedLinux> 3rd most recent[00:47:41] <AndChat|265524> I'd love to check it out but I'm traveling in Europe and the internet is horribly slow where I'm staying..[00:48:33] *** Guest58933 <Guest58933!~scott@CPE-123-211-11-82.lnse3.cha.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:48:39] *** AndChat|265524 is now known as PMunch[00:49:11] *** scott_00_ <scott_00_!~scott@CPE-123-211-11-82.lnse3.cha.bigpond.net.au> has joined #manjaro[00:50:18] <PMunch> Think my nick is back now[00:50:27] <PMunch> Oh yeah :)[00:50:34] <CountryfiedLinux> bbl[00:50:39] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:51:40] *** Communi9389 <Communi9389!~communi@2a02:c7f:5e1b:5200:4a51:b7ff:febb:7a33> has joined #manjaro[00:54:52] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has joined #manjaro[00:57:07] <PMunch> Oh wow, 0.2mbps down and 0.08 up[00:57:35] <kaelthas> Damn, where are you?[00:58:31] *** manjaro-web|4257 <manjaro-web|4257!44508323@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.80.131.35> has joined #manjaro[00:58:59] *** manjaro-web|4257 <manjaro-web|4257!44508323@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.80.131.35> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:59:00] <NoirLess> PMunch, shit happens[00:59:09] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@177.193.235.201> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[00:59:36] <NoirLess> Im always have up to 4mbit/s in and 0.8 out :/[00:59:52] <PMunch> I'm staying at an AirBnb in Antwerp[00:59:53] *** frogger <frogger!47de062a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.222.6.42> has joined #manjaro[01:00:10] <PMunch> Used to 30/30 at home..[01:00:42] *** Communi9389 <Communi9389!~communi@2a02:c7f:5e1b:5200:4a51:b7ff:febb:7a33> has quit IRC (Quit: Communi 3.5.0 - http://communi.github.com)[01:00:48] *** frogger <frogger!47de062a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.222.6.42> has left #manjaro[01:01:26] <scott_00_> i haven't been getting many updates lately, is the Manjaro community still alive and well?[01:02:30] *** Communi9389 <Communi9389!~communi@2a02:c7f:5e1b:5200:4a51:b7ff:febb:7a33> has joined #manjaro[01:02:58] <NoirLess> PMunch, 30/30? is it ever possible?[01:03:15] <NoirLess> scott_00_, same here. Summer, m8. Everyone chills[01:03:36] <PMunch> Sure, it's actually the lowest tier my internet company offers[01:03:55] * NoirLess hates Pmunch[01:03:58] <NoirLess> :/[01:04:08] <NoirLess> I have best, my ISP provides here[01:04:15] <NoirLess> 4mbit/s adsl[01:04:16] <NoirLess> :/[01:06:19] *** GenZai <GenZai!~emil@mnt60-1-88-186-66-2.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:06:22] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p5B208340.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[01:07:38] <PMunch> Sorry to hear that NoirLess, the best I can get is 1000/1000 but it's a bit on the pricy side :P[01:09:15] <NoirLess> :/[01:09:22] *** NoirLess is now known as John[01:09:27] *** CivEx <CivEx!~CivEx@p20030058AB3FF200022710FFFEC92C54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:09:31] *** John is now known as NoirLess[01:09:57] *** NoirLess is now known as John_Cena[01:09:58] *** AndChat|265524 <AndChat|265524!~PMunch@d54C44C51.access.telenet.be> has joined #manjaro[01:10:53] <AndChat|265524> It even times out in IRC chats..[01:11:48] *** semeion <semeion!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[01:12:08] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@d54C44C51.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:12:10] *** AndChat|265524 is now known as PMunch[01:12:40] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has joined #manjaro[01:13:06] <PMunch> But I'm going to bed now[01:13:38] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!wmedrano@nat/google/x-ndmhaxpkphzjzxye> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:15:12] *** scott_00_ <scott_00_!~scott@CPE-123-211-11-82.lnse3.cha.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:16:50] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@d54C44C51.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[01:19:19] *** Manj-1604-Lxqt <Manj-1604-Lxqt!~chava@187.224.54.75> has joined #manjaro[01:19:20] *** Manj-1604-Lxqt2 <Manj-1604-Lxqt2!~chava@187.224.54.75> has joined #manjaro[01:19:23] *** Manj-1604-Lxqt3 <Manj-1604-Lxqt3!~chava@187.224.54.75> has joined #manjaro[01:19:23] *** Manj-1604-Lxqt2 <Manj-1604-Lxqt2!~chava@187.224.54.75> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:19:27] *** fradd <fradd!~ffza@unaffiliated/fradd> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:19:49] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:20:17] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:20:56] *** Manj-1604-Lxqt3 <Manj-1604-Lxqt3!~chava@187.224.54.75> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[01:21:12] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has joined #manjaro[01:21:23] *** Manj-1604-Lxqt <Manj-1604-Lxqt!~chava@187.224.54.75> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[01:24:21] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[01:26:38] *** thenewone <thenewone!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[01:26:43] *** torei <torei!~torei@c-73-20-236-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[01:28:25] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.80> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:29:17] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[01:29:30] *** John_Cena is now known as NoirLess[01:29:32] <Batch> day|flip hi man[01:29:57] <day|flip> Sup Batch. How you are you doing?[01:30:04] <Condor> yo :)[01:30:13] <Batch> good thankyou day|flip[01:30:16] <Batch> you?[01:30:31] *** NaoTix <NaoTix!~tix@176.139.185.179> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:30:42] <Batch> day|flip can you show me that screenshot again from earlier?[01:30:49] <day|flip> just waiting for the weekend so I can get started working on sddm theme[01:30:52] <Batch> when i said i was amazed[01:31:06] <day|flip> ahh give me a sec[01:31:15] <day|flip> see If i can find it in history[01:31:28] <Batch> nice thx[01:31:47] <day|flip> http://i.imgur.com/JnbtZ10.png was it this one?[01:31:48] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/fQ5S3x] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[01:31:51] <torei> Damn I had to use 15 pokeballs to catch my 833 snorlax[01:32:04] <Batch> exactly day|flip[01:32:05] <Condor> torei: gotta catch 'em all! :D[01:32:08] <Batch> looks so pretty man[01:32:11] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177891352.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[01:32:13] <Batch> Condor ^[01:32:37] <torei> Has anyone found a ditto?[01:32:48] *** NoirLess <NoirLess!~noirless@178.71.126.78> has quit IRC (Quit: brb)[01:32:55] <day|flip> torei... are you playing pokemon go?[01:32:59] <Condor> day|flip: looks great![01:33:06] <day|flip> thanks Condor :)[01:33:08] <torei> day|flip, yes, I love this game[01:33:08] <Batch> go find mew torei[01:33:29] <Condor> torei: nope, i have a shitload of rattatas and pidgeys :p[01:33:37] <Batch> pokemon go is only about catching and not battle?[01:33:39] <Condor> and an eevee :3[01:33:42] <Condor> yes[01:33:47] <torei> Batch, you can battle[01:33:55] <Batch> i don't want to[01:33:57] <Condor> gym battles but yea more catching stuff[01:34:01] <torei> I got a Vulpix and Snorlax[01:34:17] <Condor> nice :D[01:34:21] <torei> I have 3 eevee's, trying to get all the variations[01:34:31] <Condor> hahaha[01:34:38] <Batch> i think that game could been better[01:34:51] <Condor> battery and gps right?[01:34:57] <Condor> and traffik control :p[01:35:13] <Batch> nah, limited features i guess[01:35:16] <Batch> for what i saw[01:35:26] <Batch> pretty poor[01:35:29] <Condor> true[01:35:42] <Condor> it's kinda like pre release now though[01:35:50] <torei> It's more prerelease[01:35:53] <Batch> oh[01:35:58] <Condor> there'll probably be a shitload of updates later on[01:36:01] <day|flip> will the game can be better. Just start drinking[01:36:03] <torei> They want to give people time to catch pokemon before getting into more stuff[01:36:10] <Batch> day|flip +1 hahaha[01:36:21] <Condor> ahhahah[01:36:27] <Condor> xD[01:36:32] <day|flip> :)[01:37:37] <Condor> i wonder how many stupid asses will get a car accident cuz of it this summer though[01:37:53] <Condor> lots of people drive and play it simultaneously[01:37:56] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@138.219.51.21> has joined #manjaro[01:38:15] <Batch> people who do that should be locked in a dungeon[01:38:21] <Batch> :p[01:39:50] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:39:52] <Condor> i have a better idea[01:40:07] <Condor> force reset their game when their speed is higher than 70km/h :p[01:40:21] <Condor> they'll learn soon enough to not open that app in the car :p[01:40:30] *** philo <philo!~philo@2601:646:8f01:6e50:f378:ce94:eb30:af2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:41:06] <torei> They already commented that certain speeds will cause the game to lose GPS signal in the next update[01:41:20] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[01:41:26] <torei> They already patched out mock locations and are banning people[01:42:29] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177891352.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:43:14] <Batch> that sounds good[01:43:37] *** Communi9389 is now known as xircon1[01:45:03] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177891352.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[01:45:29] *** Snake1130 <Snake1130!~MakerBlak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:45:51] <day|flip> here a better idea. Give the location to the cop saying hay this guy is playing are game and driving.. so don't play and dirve ^.~[01:46:14] <day|flip> drive*[01:47:52] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:48:30] *** HoNgOuRu <HoNgOuRu!~fenix@r167-56-166-112.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy> has joined #manjaro[01:48:43] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has joined #manjaro[01:49:09] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:51:08] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has joined #manjaro[02:00:23] <xircon1> https://twitter.com/AwardsDarwin/status/753377214989762561/photo/1[02:00:25] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/vPIKWY] The Darwin Awards op Twitter: "Gotta catch em all. https://t.co/oWYObZ8mPq"[02:00:43] <xircon1> :)[02:01:08] *** usrlocalbin <usrlocalbin!~quassel@24-178-231-27.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[02:01:33] <day|flip> Apparently a hoax, but probably only a matter of time.[02:02:02] *** Amplificator <Amplificator!~quassel@unaffiliated/amplificator> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:02:32] <NanoSector> i don't have much faith in humanity, but i don't think people are *that* stupid[02:02:36] *** HoNgOuRu <HoNgOuRu!~fenix@r167-56-166-112.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:03:27] <day|flip> if they are that stupid. Then at less they will die faster. just hope there not going take other with them[02:05:03] <xircon1> Yes fake, just popped up on my twitter feed. never trust the internet :)[02:08:15] *** Amplificator <Amplificator!~quassel@unaffiliated/amplificator> has joined #manjaro[02:15:36] *** manjaro-web|2887 <manjaro-web|2887!6020005d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.96.32.0.93> has joined #manjaro[02:16:43] <manjaro-web|2887> Hi, This is my frist time using this OS so does anyone know any useful tips for this OS. I'm coming from Debain and Linux Mint.[02:17:13] <Lowl3v3l_> manjaro-web|2887, could you please be a little less vague?[02:18:17] <manjaro-web|2887> What do you mean? I just wondering if you have any tips or suggestions I can use since im new to the OS. No specific questions.[02:18:36] <NanoSector> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta[02:18:37] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/jhCqHt] Pacman/Rosetta - ArchWiki[02:19:15] <Lowl3v3l_> manjaro-web|2887 : learn to use your system, read all scripts that you execute, use journalctl and dmesg. you are on your way to a master-hacker.[02:19:30] <NanoSector> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/General_recommendations[02:19:31] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/JmX6pc] General recommendations - ArchWiki[02:19:40] <NanoSector> !wiki list of applications[02:19:40] <FatalException> List of applications - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications[02:19:58] * NanoSector wonders why he didn't just use that in the first place[02:20:32] <w30> I edited my smb.config file but it won't update with systemctl restart smbd, nmbd, winbindd. What gives?[02:20:52] <NanoSector> did you save the file[02:21:13] <w30> NanoSector, yes[02:21:21] <day|flip> manjaro-web|2887, will... with any linux system that on the easy to used side. Just start playing with everything. get used to where the app is at. get used to the gui de/wm that your using. before going into terminal[02:21:34] <NanoSector> w30: try validating it and see if errors are in[02:21:41] <NanoSector> maybe it doesn't recognise the option you added or something[02:21:49] <manjaro-web|2887> I used arch before. I only had as my main OS for a month because while it was nice I wanted something other people in my house can use since i share a pc with my siblings.[02:22:40] <day|flip> Gnome and Cinnamon will be the best bet for DE[02:22:49] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[02:23:11] <day|flip> maybe xfce[02:23:35] <Lowl3v3l_> manjaro-web|2887, anybody can "use" arch with some DE. i mean its not like any user of a pc has to be able to maintian it.[02:23:37] * day|flip I still cant get used to xfce at all. I don't know why[02:23:50] <w30> NanoSector, testparm says it's good to go except printers which is what I want[02:24:29] <w30> NanoSector, but it won't go[02:24:38] <NanoSector> checked cups?[02:25:04] <w30> NanoSector, I don't printing[02:25:21] <manjaro-web|2887> I was using arch without a DE for some time. I added gnome but was not a really big fan of it[02:25:30] <NanoSector> w30: i dunno mate[02:25:35] <w30> NanoSector, printer lines are commented[02:25:37] * NanoSector heads off to bed[02:26:02] <manjaro-web|2887> I do like cinnamon on Linux mint but my siblings didn't and forced me to change it.[02:27:03] <Lowl3v3l_> manjaro-web|2887, you know login managers can just start multiple window managers?^^[02:27:45] <manjaro-web|2887> Too much effort. The problem is everyone of my family members wants a different thing and I dont want to deal with it.[02:28:43] <manjaro-web|2887> Im considering just loading windows on a small partition for them just so they can stop asking me to change stuff.[02:29:31] <Lowl3v3l_> you notice that windows with admin rights for everyone doesn't solve the problem of idiot-users, do you?[02:30:49] <manjaro-web|2887> I was not going to give them admin if I did it. They are just a pain but they are too lazy to buy thier own pc.[02:30:51] <torei> Is mew even catchable?[02:31:04] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-95-94.nt.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:31:36] <Lowl3v3l_> torei, well its not among the original 150 pokemon, so i dunno how they handle event-pokemon^^[02:31:50] *** manjaro-web|2887 <manjaro-web|2887!6020005d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.96.32.0.93> has left #manjaro[02:32:13] <torei> I can't seem to evolve a jolteon either[02:32:57] <torei> I keep getting vaporeon[02:34:57] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-95-94.nt.net> has joined #manjaro[02:38:05] <day|flip> Lowl3v3l_, It in the first game. can be able to get it. But it weird on how you can.[02:39:06] <day|flip> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw2fL5E9yUw[02:39:07] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/SmgRj3] How to catch Mew in Pokemon Yellow/Red/Blue/3DS Version's (100% LEGIT, WITHOUT CHEATS!/TUTORIAL) - YouTube[02:39:24] <kaelthas> Hey guys, is it possible for me to play Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos and Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne on Manjaro Linux?[02:40:02] <Lowl3v3l_> day|flip, it is an event pokemon. The only non-cheat way was going to the corresponding nintendo-events and getting it loaded on your game ;)[02:41:00] <torei> kaelthas, Yes I do just fine with WINE[02:43:37] <torei> kaelthas, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WarCraft_III[02:43:37] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/AiXjQn] WarCraft III - ArchWiki[02:44:12] <kaelthas> Thank you, torei![02:44:20] <torei> np[02:45:20] *** w30 <w30!~Dubal@2601:245:8100:2347::3> has left #manjaro ("Exit; stage left")[02:47:47] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.159> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:48:44] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-087-030.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:49:29] *** usrlocalbin <usrlocalbin!~quassel@24-178-231-27.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:50:12] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[02:51:08] *** manjaro-jwm_ <manjaro-jwm_!~manjaro-j@2601:283:8100:ba56:d55:c1c2:d65:370> has joined #manjaro[02:51:08] *** manjaro-jwm_ is now known as verrlara__-[02:51:37] *** verrlara__- <verrlara__-!~manjaro-j@2601:283:8100:ba56:d55:c1c2:d65:370> has left #manjaro[02:51:48] *** torei <torei!~torei@c-73-20-236-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:53:13] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:53:42] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[02:55:57] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:56:14] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[02:56:22] *** manjaro-jwm is now known as glsmaxx[02:56:42] *** verrlara__- <verrlara__-!~manjaro-j@2601:283:8100:ba56:d55:c1c2:d65:370> has joined #manjaro[02:56:46] <verrlara__-> Anyone home?[02:57:10] <verrlara__-> I have a software issue. I installed connman having read it was better then netclt. 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host closed the connection)[03:43:34] *** gpunk <gpunk!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[03:44:12] <Batch> oke so[03:44:36] <Batch> sys-subsystem-net-devices-wlan0.device is dead[03:45:32] *** verrlara_ is now known as verrlara[03:45:47] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-95-94.nt.net> has joined #manjaro[03:46:04] *** verrlara <verrlara!~none@26.ip-149-56-99.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[03:46:04] *** verrlara <verrlara!~none@unaffiliated/verrlara> has joined #manjaro[03:46:49] *** sydney_untangle <sydney_untangle!~sydney@supertux/sydney> has joined #manjaro[03:47:25] *** sydney_untangle <sydney_untangle!~sydney@supertux/sydney> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:47:43] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[03:48:58] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-95-94.nt.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:52:11] *** sydney_untangle <sydney_untangle!~sydney@supertux/sydney> has joined #manjaro[03:54:13] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-95-94.nt.net> has joined #manjaro[03:55:19] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-95-94.nt.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:55:42] *** gpunk <gpunk!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has joined #manjaro[03:57:04] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@TOROON2634W-LP130-04-1177891352.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:01:05] *** mantra__ <mantra__!~no@14-201-221-216.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[04:03:15] *** Mate-1512 <Mate-1512!~manjaro-m@92-111-46-229.static.chello.nl> has joined #manjaro[04:06:50] *** Jay193 <Jay193!6020005d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.96.32.0.93> has joined #manjaro[04:06:52] *** gpunk <gpunk!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[04:08:17] <Jay193> Hello, Anyone know how to dual boot windows and manjaro. I have both OS installed but I can't get the selection of windows to load.[04:08:44] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-95-94.nt.net> has joined #manjaro[04:11:58] <Batch> i think something is wrong with netctl[04:12:00] <Jay193> Hello, Anyone know how to dual boot windows and manjaro. I have both OS installed but I can't get the selection of windows to load.[04:12:11] <Batch> hi Jay193[04:12:19] <Jay193> Hello[04:12:27] <Batch> sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub[04:12:31] <Batch> try that Jay193[04:12:47] <Jay193> Okay, thanks. Ill let you know how it goes[04:12:56] <Batch> goood[04:14:48] *** Jay193 <Jay193!6020005d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.96.32.0.93> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[04:16:11] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[04:16:16] *** manjaro-mate1512 <manjaro-mate1512!~manjaro-m@095-097-098-049.static.chello.nl> has joined #manjaro[04:19:39] *** Mate-1512 <Mate-1512!~manjaro-m@92-111-46-229.static.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[04:20:48] *** Jay193 <Jay193!6020005d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.96.32.0.93> has joined #manjaro[04:21:04] <Jay193> Thanks, it worked.[04:22:13] <Batch> np Jay193[04:23:26] <Jay193> Batch is this the only OS you use or do you dual boot with windows or other linux.[04:23:56] <Batch> i have multiple OS Jay193[04:24:30] <Batch> i dualboot my laptop with windows and got a desktop with arch[04:25:20] <Jay193> Nice. I was going to do arch but wanted something easier to use. I know its not that bad to set up but It just takes time.[04:26:05] <Jay193> Is there a way to update all apps you have installed. A command of button I'm missing.[04:26:09] <Batch> manjaro rocks![04:26:21] <Batch> sudo pacman -Syyu[04:26:25] <Batch> i use that daily[04:26:29] <Jay193> Yeah, I liked it when I was running it in a vm.[04:26:41] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!~wmedrano@2601:647:4601:ea84:6835:eccd:4e8c:100d> has joined #manjaro[04:26:55] <Batch> well daily i mean that's the thing i use to update[04:27:07] <Batch> you won't need to update daily in manjaro[04:27:23] <Batch> every 2 weeks or something like that[04:27:46] <Jay193> Yeah, Okay. I am coming from Linux Mint and Windows.[04:27:55] <verrlara> You know... you only need 1 y right?[04:29:01] <Batch> doesn't matter that much i guess[04:29:38] <Jay193> Im getting an error. What am I doing wrong. It says can't be run.[04:29:47] <Jay193> Invaild option[04:29:59] <Batch> sudo pacman -Syu[04:30:08] <Batch> caps S, the rest without caps[04:30:11] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.13.207> has joined #manjaro[04:30:12] <Jay193> I did that. Cap aswell[04:30:16] <Jay193> Give me a sec.[04:30:18] <Batch> hmmm[04:30:51] <Jay193> There we go. I just reloaded terminal.[04:30:56] <Jay193> Wierd.[04:31:42] <Jay193> So, How did you setup your linux arch. What DE.[04:32:27] *** Pablo_ <Pablo_!~Pablo@189.26.51.12.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has joined #manjaro[04:32:53] <Batch> verrlara what problem did you have earlier?[04:32:59] <Batch> i got something strange too now[04:33:18] <verrlara> netctl decided it didn't like me anymore and didn't see my wifi card anymore[04:33:37] <Batch> did you saw this in journalctl verrlara[04:33:38] <Batch> sys-subsystem-net-devices-wlan0.device: Job sys-subsystem-net-devices-wlan0.device/start timed out.[04:33:41] <Batch> ?[04:34:05] <verrlara> I didn't check my journal[04:34:08] <Batch> i think my problem is similar to yours[04:34:10] <Batch> oh[04:34:10] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@138.219.51.21> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[04:34:25] <Batch> i wonder if networkmanager uses netctl[04:34:39] <verrlara> I don't think so. I uninstalled it and I am still connected.[04:34:42] <verrlara> xD[04:35:09] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[04:35:15] <Batch> verrlara how?[04:35:21] <Batch> sudo pacman -Rn netctl?[04:35:29] <verrlara> What? sudo pacman -R netctl[04:36:07] <verrlara> After systemctl stop netctl, systemctl disable netctl[04:37:46] <Batch> looks like it's working here too[04:38:12] <Batch> thx verrlara[04:38:28] <verrlara> ^_^[04:38:37] <verrlara> I think netctl must have blown up in the last update.[04:38:50] <verrlara> Cause I syu'd today too[04:39:11] <Batch> [batch@666 ~]$ systemctl status netctl[04:39:11] <Batch> ● netctl.service - (Re)store the netctl profile state[04:39:11] <Batch> Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/netctl.service; disabled; vendor preset: disabled)[04:39:12] <Jay193> well mine my blow up aswell because I just did now.[04:39:36] <Batch> looks like still loaded ?[04:39:47] <verrlara> Says loaded[04:39:56] <Batch> seems like i can't stop it[04:40:32] <Batch> well lets just remove it lol[04:41:23] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@138.219.51.21> has joined #manjaro[04:41:32] <Batch> 50 terminals that are open[04:41:38] <Batch> almost[04:42:28] <Batch> looks like what i was lookin for[04:42:30] <Batch> problem solved[04:42:53] <verrlara> 50?[04:42:59] <verrlara> TERMINALS?![04:43:07] <verrlara> YOu might like tmux[04:43:11] <Batch> just kidding[04:43:12] <verrlara> o>0[04:43:17] <Batch> haha yeah[04:43:33] <verrlara> I know its exessive when I have six windows with 5 terminals each[04:43:44] <verrlara> Each running either a compiler or something.[04:43:55] <Jay193> Is dual booting Arch Linux a good idea and if anyone has done it any tips on how to do it well.[04:44:11] <verrlara> Hope you like cli installs![04:44:38] <Jay193> yeah I know.[04:44:58] <Jay193> I had it in the past for about 1 hour. Then i said this is to much effort.[04:45:30] <Jay193> I was considering dual booting it so i i get annoyed i can just go to my other OS for a bit and come back to it later.[04:45:46] <Jay193> Also thats part of the reason I got this os since it was based of it.[04:46:02] <Batch> well Jay193[04:46:09] <Batch> keep manjaro for a while[04:46:34] <Batch> if you really want arch then time will tell when you will install it[04:46:44] <Batch> and dualbooting is all possible[04:46:58] <Jay193> I was going to install it on my desktop with a dualboot to windows or manjaro.[04:47:07] <Batch> well[04:47:20] <Jay193> I need windows which upsets me.[04:47:21] <Batch> the problem with windows and dualbooting is[04:47:36] <Batch> you need to install windows first[04:47:45] <Jay193> Yeah, I have it installed.[04:48:03] <Jay193> Its a windows desktop I built 6 months back or so.[04:48:08] <Batch> but then managing existing partitions which have other installed os is hard[04:48:52] <Jay193> I have a black HD I can put in.[04:48:55] <Batch> it's handy if you have each OS on different HDD[04:49:13] <Batch> ah well voila[04:49:16] <Batch> :p[04:49:27] <Jay193> Yeah, I have 6 hard drives for no reason.[04:49:33] <Jay193> On my desktop[04:49:48] <Jay193> Then my laptop all alone with one.[04:49:57] <Batch> yeah[04:50:12] <Jay193> I wish I could ditch windows but i can't[04:50:16] <Batch> for a laptop it's really thinking which OS you really want and need[04:50:30] *** Smeef <Smeef!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[04:50:37] <Jay193> I want linux but need windows so it kinda sucks for me.[04:51:10] <Batch> well yeah[04:51:27] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[04:51:28] <verrlara> I love bspwm :D[04:51:35] <Batch> the best idea to think of is which linux distro would you really need[04:51:42] <verrlara> I stole the manjaro configs of github XD[04:51:51] <verrlara> Even though I run arch.[04:51:53] <Batch> nice :p[04:52:10] <Batch> everyone has it's flavours[04:52:16] <Jay193> Yeah, I keep testing out different ones.[04:53:13] <Jay193> I had debian,ubuntu,fedora,redhat,linux mint, kali, tails, whonix and thats all i can remember atm.[04:53:16] <Jay193> arch kinda[04:53:19] <Jay193> Just no DE[04:53:26] <Jay193> But installed XD[04:53:29] <Batch> i think manjaro will keep you cosy for a long time[04:53:48] <Batch> nice nice[04:53:51] <verrlara> manjaro hands you food. Arch expects you to grow it.[04:54:12] <Batch> yeah correct[04:54:39] <RyanKnack> Has bluetooth always been problematic on linux? I had tried manjaro a few weeks ago and it kept losing connection to my bluetooth mouse periodically, just wondering if this is a common issue.[04:54:39] <Jay193> Yep[04:55:05] <Jay193> Well for me it has never been but I have not tested it on Manjaro.[04:55:41] <Jay193> Most of my linux experience is around debian based OS.[04:56:18] <RyanKnack> I didn't have a bluetooth mouse a few years ago when I exclusively used linux, and I also have different hardware now, but I'm pretty certain bluez or perhaps the kernel wasn't playing nice with my mouse.[04:56:54] <RyanKnack> Like, bluetooth works, the mouse would just stop working periodically for a few moments until the mouse reconnected[04:57:31] <Jay193> Yeah, I know what you mean but i never had issues and I would havew known since i used bluetooth speakers to watch tv for a few hours at a time.[04:57:40] <Batch> RyanKnack maybe it's something with powersaving ?[04:57:44] <Jay193> and a bluetooth mouse at that point.[04:57:48] <Batch> or a timeout[04:58:19] <Jay193> I think it power because my windows would do that not linux XD[04:58:31] <RyanKnack> Possibly, I did try switching kernels, I was primarily on whatever manjaro set me on, whatever the LTS one is, then I switched to a version more current[04:58:47] <RyanKnack> When I switched to the more current kernel, bluez would lock up and require me to log out and log back in[04:58:48] <Batch> well i mean[04:58:58] <Batch> the mouse itself can have powersaving options[04:59:01] <RyanKnack> Windows has no problem with the mouse[04:59:09] <Batch> for example a friend has a logitech moush[04:59:22] <Jay193> Ohh lol. Mine did but was fixed when i changed it to balance and not power savings.[04:59:26] <Batch> it goes into powersaving, untill you hit a mousebutton[04:59:30] <Jay193> So my battery died even more often.[04:59:36] <Batch> but that's in windows[04:59:39] <RyanKnack> no[04:59:47] <RyanKnack> this would happen as I was using the mouse, as well[04:59:49] *** hoagies <hoagies!~manjaro-i@186.82.70.156> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[04:59:53] <Batch> oh[05:00:15] <RyanKnack> It's just a really annoying bug[05:00:28] <RyanKnack> the mouse works, but you almost get to the point of not wanting to use it[05:01:11] <Jay193> bluetooth is wierd. sometimes it works well and other times not so much. Thats why i got rid of my bluetooth mouse.[05:01:38] <Jay193> I was always having good days then bad days.[05:02:15] <RyanKnack> I should spin up a live usb of another distro and see how it goes[05:02:37] <Jay193> I use tails on my live usb because why not.[05:02:42] <day|flip> never been a fan for bluetooth on linux. and gnome bluetooth app have one the best setup to get it connecting. even then. it give me nothing but issue[05:02:51] *** eizua <eizua!~eizua@122.2.98.233> has joined #manjaro[05:02:51] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[05:03:25] <Jay193> I recomend tryng it out and finding some "interesting" sites[05:03:39] <Jay193> depending of what you find interesting XD[05:04:49] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[05:04:54] <Jay193> Do any of you do gaming on linux?[05:04:58] <Jay193> or use steamos[05:05:04] *** linux-dream <linux-dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has joined #manjaro[05:05:11] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[05:06:33] <day|flip> Jay193, I used to. but not anymore. Hell. It was the very reason why I move to linux almost 8 year ago[05:07:46] <Jay193> Yeah, I was going to try a few games but the problem is have I a decent amount of money in windows only games.[05:08:19] *** augiekk <augiekk!~august@172.56.13.207> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[05:08:24] <Jay193> So I can't make it my only gaming OS because of the amount of money I would be wasting.[05:09:59] <day|flip> well. when wow blew up my gpu card. my integrated card was not able to handle the one game I was more addictive then wow. they had version to work on window mac and linux. just take a guess witch os i try when window ran like shit[05:11:30] <Jay193> Linux I hope. If its mac im sad and will not have to cry myself to sleep.[05:11:36] <Jay193> now*[05:11:50] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yjkhhcjzbbttwtgh> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[05:11:51] <day|flip> i did not have the money to replace my gpu[05:11:58] <day|flip> it was linux[05:12:17] <Jay193> Good, What gpu was it if you remeber.[05:12:48] <Jay193> I have some old ati cards that got blown up.[05:12:59] <day|flip> nvidia gf 6600 was the card that blew up[05:13:38] <Jay193> I always used ATI now amd until recently when I got a nvida 970 on sale when the launched for 179 usd.[05:13:55] <day|flip> nvidia gf 6100 as for my integrated card[05:14:39] <day|flip> right now im using GeForce GTX 550 Ti[05:14:49] <day|flip> it been a really good card[05:15:43] <Jay193> I not only use mine for gaming but 3d rendering and photoshop.[05:15:58] <day|flip> that really cool[05:16:07] <Jay193> and software design[05:16:15] <day|flip> cad?[05:16:36] <Jay193> Mainly failed programing.[05:17:25] <day|flip> never heard of it. then again. I'm not a programer[05:17:51] <Jay193> I head of it but never worked with it. I mainly worked insdie windows enviorment and still do today.[05:18:22] <day|flip> i don't blame you for that. that were most of the money is at[05:19:01] <Jay193> Yeah, me and a few friends have been trying to get into linux. try and make an distro at some point.[05:19:18] <Batch> omg day|flip we have same gpu[05:19:30] <day|flip> back then or now?[05:19:38] <Batch> Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF116 [GeForce GTX 550 Ti][05:19:43] <Batch> atm[05:19:45] <day|flip> :)[05:19:51] <Batch> :p[05:20:06] <day|flip> evea?[05:20:07] <Jay193> Lol, then there is me with a 970. I feel left out.[05:20:10] <Batch> well i agree with you day|flip[05:20:18] <Batch> no mines an msi i guess[05:20:25] <Batch> not sure lol[05:20:28] <Jay193> Lol[05:20:29] <day|flip> lol[05:20:38] <Jay193> Mine is Asus strix[05:21:01] <Batch> let me see and hope i find it[05:21:20] <day|flip> omg.. just open up your case and find out[05:21:36] <Jay193> My case has a window. Its fancy XD[05:21:49] <Batch> lol[05:22:01] <Batch> min pc is shortly wired behind the desk[05:22:11] <day|flip> my case it meh.. some old as master blaster case[05:22:13] <Batch> the portal is against the wall[05:22:57] <Jay193> mine is a mid tower[05:23:12] <Jay193> next to me.[05:23:29] <day|flip> i need to build a new computer. really. having a am2 + mobo make this thing feel like it from the year 2009[05:23:32] <Jay193> cosair 500 thinks[05:23:46] *** linux-dream <linux-dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[05:23:49] <Jay193> I have the amd fx 9570 I think[05:23:53] <Batch> well, mine is asus too i think[05:24:00] <Jay193> give me a sec to check that[05:24:02] <Batch> gpu[05:24:11] <day|flip> ahh[05:24:21] <Batch> with the red stripes[05:24:21] <Jay193> correction amd fx 9590[05:24:24] <Jay193> yep[05:24:39] <day|flip> evga gpu batch[05:24:43] <day|flip> is my card[05:24:48] <Jay193> Mine has a fany light too[05:24:51] <Batch> well day|flip[05:24:58] <Jay193> So much wothless crap in my pc[05:24:58] <Batch> my next gpu will be evga too[05:25:09] <day|flip> :) i been really happy with them[05:25:40] <Jay193> Ill stuck with asus because i get discounts.[05:25:42] <day|flip> this card for being 100 usd. was so worth it back when i got it.[05:26:14] <Batch> i think i will take 950 or 60 or 70[05:26:16] <Jay193> What does the 970 cost anyway[05:26:17] <day|flip> it one my oldest cards[05:26:22] <Batch> not sure how the price will be[05:26:27] <day|flip> that stayed around[05:26:31] <day|flip> 3 year now[05:26:53] <Jay193> Mine was 179 at launch so yeah not sure what its at now but i also got it for almost 50% off[05:27:16] <Jay193> at the begining of last year I think not sure when I got it[05:27:19] <Batch> i guess i go for 960 :p[05:27:45] <Jay193> Get the 970 if you can.[05:27:46] <Batch> i really don't wanna spend more then 300€ to it[05:27:58] <Jay193> There is a large performance difference.[05:28:37] <Batch> yeah[05:28:58] <Batch> i'll see[05:29:12] <Batch> the 960 has 2gb and 4gb versions[05:29:27] <Jay193> https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Graphics-Cards-04G-P4-2975-KR/dp/B00NT9UUGI/ref=sr_1_49?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1468466954&sr=1-49&keywords=970[05:29:30] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/xBNtx6] Amazon.com: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 4GB Graphics Cards 04G-P4-2975-KR: Computers & Accessories[05:29:31] <Jay193> usd[05:30:03] <Batch> looks great[05:30:11] <Jay193> https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Installed-Backplate-Graphics-04G-P4-3967-KR/dp/B012NOWERC/ref=sr_1_52?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1468466992&sr=1-52&keywords=970[05:30:11] <Batch> but i keep thinkin about my wallet[05:30:15] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/ry6V7M] Amazon.com: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB SSC GAMING ACX 2.0+, Whisper Silent Cooling w/ Free Installed Backplate Graphics Card 04G-P4-3967-KR: Computers & Accessories[05:30:15] <Jay193> better link[05:30:51] <Jay193> 960 though whcih shows how much people pay for it and can get 970.[05:31:28] <Jay193> If you wait a few more weeks its will be even lower when the 1070 starts being mass produced[05:31:40] <Batch> awh i will wait a lot longer lol[05:31:50] <Jay193> I like mine for the price[05:32:13] <Batch> i can buy a used car for that price[05:32:13] <Jay193> 162.02 your currency[05:32:16] <Jay193> I think[05:32:28] <Batch> well[05:32:35] <Batch> i was also thinkin of the rx480?[05:32:37] <Batch> iirc[05:32:53] <Batch> but i heard the price of 1070 is not that high either[05:32:58] <Jay193> Yeah. I like that card but the 1060 is supposed to kill it[05:33:02] <Jay193> 1070 is 379[05:33:12] <Jay193> 1060 is supposed to be about 279[05:33:13] <Batch> so i got some brainstorming to do next days[05:33:19] <day|flip> Batch, don't get the rx480 till mesa 12 come out[05:33:36] <Batch> awh ok[05:33:36] <day|flip> other wise it will not work on manjaro[05:33:54] <Jay193> I had the card for 1 day and it was good.[05:33:59] <day|flip> you could try the aur. but i never been able to install mesa-git[05:34:04] <Jay193> It was up with my 970 or close[05:34:23] <Jay193> 8gb version though[05:34:40] <Jay193> my friend let me borrow hos to test it out[05:34:49] <Batch> 1070 looks nice[05:34:59] <Jay193> i would never buy it[05:35:04] <Jay193> 379 for a card[05:35:07] <Jay193> usd[05:35:27] <day|flip> will damn. a small distro got mesa 12[05:35:29] <Batch> well yeah[05:35:31] *** sotram <sotram!~sotram@cblmdm134-228-88-11.buckeyecom.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[05:35:39] <Batch> 1060 looks more what i want[05:35:49] <Jay193> what distro?[05:35:50] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@71-211-188-19.hlrn.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[05:36:10] <day|flip> Jay193, void linux[05:36:16] <Jay193> terminal is still updating XD[05:36:20] <day|flip> voidlinux.eu[05:36:29] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@71-211-188-19.hlrn.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[05:36:34] <Jay193> are you from the eu?[05:36:50] <day|flip> if you can't stand systemd or openrc. void linux is the next best thing[05:37:01] <day|flip> and no. im from the us. CO[05:37:29] <Jay193> Ohh, I though you where eu becuase site[05:38:12] <Jay193> I'm from NY.[05:38:19] <day|flip> for someone that been using linux since the fall of 2008. you think I done some distro hoping from time to time. i still do[05:38:24] <Batch> hmmm[05:38:42] <Jay193> So where are you from Batch[05:38:53] <Batch> 1060 and 1070 have less cores then rx480, gtx980 and 1080[05:39:05] <Batch> i'm belgium Jay193, you?[05:39:09] <Jay193> Yes. But higher clocks oer core[05:39:22] <Jay193> New York USA[05:39:33] <day|flip> Batch, I really thought your uk.[05:39:35] <Batch> ah cool[05:39:37] <Jay193> Upstate not the city[05:39:51] <Jay193> im too poor for that[05:39:57] <Batch> i'm poor too[05:40:02] <Batch> np[05:40:03] <Batch> :D[05:40:20] <Jay193> the clocks are at 1.7 right?[05:40:24] <Jay193> for the 1080[05:40:39] <day|flip> new york city is by far the most expensive city in the us[05:41:11] <Jay193> well. i just got a bug[05:41:14] <Batch> https://tweakers.net/nieuws/113253/3dmark-resultaten-van-geforce-gtx-1060-lekken-uit.html[05:41:15] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/FxQlrU] 3DMark-resultaten van GeForce GTX 1060 lekken uit - Computer - Nieuws - Tweakers[05:41:24] <Batch> have a diagram or whatever it's called in this link[05:41:25] <Jay193> I tried to ajust my brightness and now the logo is stuck on my screen[05:42:12] <Jay193> and now it turns itself back up?[05:42:14] <Jay193> wth[05:42:16] <Batch> :p[05:42:33] <day|flip> Batch, 1060 is on average faster then rx 480. so it may cost around 300 usd[05:42:34] <Batch> well checking these specs i think rx480 looks very attractive[05:42:46] <Batch> ah[05:42:48] <Jay193> yeah.[05:43:01] <Jay193> Ill stick with my 970[05:43:26] <Batch> the memorybus is limited to 192GB/s[05:43:27] <day|flip> I don't see the point in buy something that cost that much when I don't pc game anymore[05:43:31] <verrlara> I am contimplating....[05:43:34] <verrlara> returning to manjaro[05:43:39] <verrlara> from Arch[05:43:47] <verrlara> But I dont' want to loose my ssh key[05:43:48] <day|flip> hay verrlara[05:43:54] <verrlara> Hi day![05:43:55] <Batch> day|flip yeah agreed[05:44:05] <verrlara> xDDDD[05:44:38] <day|flip> verrlara, do you remember the last time I posted my theme on here?[05:44:44] <Batch> well, whatever, got more then time enough to compare all these cards[05:45:04] <Jay193> I think manjaro will be good for me until i can invest time into arch and make i right for me which will not be a while due to work and family atm.[05:45:17] <Jay193> since is has the respositorys for arch as well[05:45:29] <Jay193> wow i killed the spelling[05:45:43] <verrlara> Haven't frequented manjaro channel in awhile[05:45:45] <day|flip> when ever void linux start pushing kf5 into there repo. i switch back to them[05:45:46] <verrlara> Been on arch.[05:46:22] <day|flip> did you like the arch system?[05:46:43] <day|flip> i hear that the irc chat can get really trolly[05:47:31] <Jay193> im happy you dikdnt troll me when i asked for help[05:47:33] <verrlara> day|flip: I don't go on the main archlinux channel I go on the newbie channel.[05:47:45] <day|flip> ahh[05:48:15] <verrlara> But yes it can get trolly elitist and nasty.[05:48:23] <Jay193> at least as far as i can tell atm[05:49:44] <Jay193> I got to get going. Have a good Night/day everyone and thanks for the help.[05:49:47] <verrlara> If you ask a stupid question your head gets bit off[05:50:18] <day|flip> manjaro irc is very chill. we can get very off topic in here time to time. like for some reason we were talkin about pokemon go[05:50:36] <verrlara> xD[05:50:42] <verrlara> or car insurance this morning[05:51:16] *** Jay193 <Jay193!6020005d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.96.32.0.93> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[05:51:30] <day|flip> I'm normal not in here in the morning. ... ya. i'm at work in the morning[05:57:02] <eizua> Hey verrlara[05:57:13] <verrlara> hmm?[05:57:39] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[05:57:40] <eizua> Were you able to get the BSPWM Manjaro from the link I gave you yesterday?[05:57:49] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[05:58:06] <verrlara> My internet decided to give up the ghost right after that.[05:58:12] <verrlara> So no I haven't[05:58:28] <verrlara> namely I had a fight with netctl and had to switch to networkmanager.[05:58:31] <eizua> I see, sorry to hear that[05:58:47] <verrlara> No worries. Glad its fixed.[05:59:05] *** alexandr1 is now known as alexandros_c[06:00:56] *** Smeef <Smeef!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has joined #manjaro[06:01:46] <verrlara> ^___^[06:01:56] <verrlara> I am thinking of getting the bspwm community edition.[06:06:08] *** gwmedrano <gwmedrano!~wmedrano@2601:647:4601:ea84:6835:eccd:4e8c:100d> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[06:13:03] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:14:01] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xggoguqapbchelsu> has joined #manjaro[06:18:10] *** Jay193 <Jay193!6020005d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.96.32.0.93> has joined #manjaro[06:18:39] <Jay193> Hi.[06:18:46] <day|flip> welcome back[06:19:01] <Jay193> Yeah. I tried to sleep. Its not working.[06:19:22] <day|flip> 5 hour engery?[06:19:34] <day|flip> energy**[06:19:38] <Jay193> No, I just have a sleeping problem.[06:19:49] <day|flip> go for a run[06:19:59] <Jay193> Nothing helps.[06:20:07] <Jay193> I just have to wait it out.[06:20:13] <day|flip> maybe your body not using all it energy it need to used[06:20:27] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~HamRadio@67.148.122.154> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[06:20:58] <day|flip> beer + weed?[06:21:12] <Jay193> I tried a bunch of stuff like running and even sleep aids. The sleep aids help but I don't take them unless it gets bad. and I do't drink XD[06:21:17] <Jay193> don't[06:21:50] <Jay193> its only 1 am.[06:21:55] <day|flip> ya[06:22:05] <day|flip> it 10pm here[06:22:11] <Jay193> If it gets to 4 and i still cants sleep then I take them[06:22:24] <Jay193> I work from home so its a not like i really need to leave.[06:22:34] <Jay193> I can afford to sleep in.[06:22:34] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~HamRadio@67.148.122.154> has joined #manjaro[06:22:38] <day|flip> lucky[06:22:51] <Jay193> Yeah but that also means im always on call[06:23:38] <Jay193> Im going to try and see if can instal arch.[06:23:47] <Jay193> What vm do you recomend for linux.[06:24:00] <Jay193> I have vmware workstation pro key[06:24:16] <Jay193> im not sure if i should go with that or virtualbox.[06:24:20] <day|flip> will if it just for play. why not give voidlinux a try[06:24:28] <day|flip> if you know how to used arch[06:24:33] <day|flip> on your own[06:24:44] <day|flip> void will be no problem to used[06:25:02] <Jay193> Ill try void. How long is instal about[06:25:19] <day|flip> not very long[06:25:29] <Jay193> So, Vmware of virtualbox?[06:25:32] <Jay193> or*[06:25:38] <day|flip> thing is they have there own installing script[06:25:56] <day|flip> not sure. been a long time since i used vm or vb[06:26:10] <day|flip> since most ppl used vm. ill go with that[06:26:29] <Jay193> I use VMware workstaion pro normally since work gives me unlimted product key. :)[06:26:38] <Jay193> valid forever[06:26:43] <Jay193> unlimited uses[06:26:47] <day|flip> nice[06:27:03] <Jay193> well. It think is limited to 100 years and 100 million uses[06:27:09] <Jay193> but basically unlimited[06:27:53] <day|flip> the average life of a male is around 75 year[06:28:23] <Jay193> So yep unlimited for me.[06:29:16] <day|flip> about void. they have live cd. but the thing is. it only install the core system. so don't freek out when you reboot back into tty[06:29:37] <Jay193> Yeah i noticed[06:30:01] <Jay193> Try vmware workstation pro if you want. Ill give you a code.[06:30:07] <day|flip> na[06:30:09] <day|flip> im good[06:30:29] *** PcMasterRace <PcMasterRace!~anony@ip72-195-190-159.mc.at.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[06:30:29] <day|flip> i normally test on real hardware anyway[06:30:50] <Jay193> Yeah. I did until I habe 6 hard drives in my PC XD[06:31:10] <Jay193> I had space to make vms[06:31:23] <PcMasterRace> sup[06:31:26] <day|flip> i don't really have the ram space[06:31:29] <Jay193> and an 8 core at 5ghz and 32gb ram im good.[06:31:53] <Jay193> How much ram you have?[06:32:01] *** manjaroDeepin160 <manjaroDeepin160!~Manjaro-D@49.145.184.48> has joined #manjaro[06:32:29] <day|flip> 4gb[06:32:33] *** manjaroDeepin160 <manjaroDeepin160!~Manjaro-D@49.145.184.48> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:32:44] <Jay193> You can run 1 vm at a time.[06:32:48] <day|flip> i used 1.2gb to 1.8[06:33:15] <Jay193> give it 1.9gb if you ever want to run it. Thats what i do on this device my laptop which has manjaro on it[06:34:21] <Jay193> So, how long have you been using this distro[06:35:21] <day|flip> of and on since oct 2013[06:35:26] <day|flip> off**[06:35:42] <day|flip> i keep coming back[06:36:14] <Jay193> I used to do that with Linux Mint.[06:36:25] <Jay193> I used that for a long time.[06:36:33] <Jay193> I got tired of it always being out of date[06:36:37] <day|flip> there a lot of thing the keep pissing me the hell off. so i have a love hate for manjaro. even tho im making a theme for a community spin[06:36:54] <Jay193> what theme.[06:36:58] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~HamRadio@67.148.122.154> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[06:36:59] <day|flip> it a lxqt[06:37:23] <day|flip> http://i.imgur.com/JnbtZ10.png[06:37:23] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/fQ5S3x] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[06:37:28] <day|flip> what it look like[06:37:30] *** Manj-1603-Lxqt <Manj-1603-Lxqt!~julian@181.131.31.252> has joined #manjaro[06:37:47] <Jay193> it looks nice[06:38:19] <day|flip> ya. i keep making small post of it in here.[06:38:46] <Jay193> I was considering using manjaro as a base kernal setup to build a custom distro[06:38:48] <day|flip> I don't think the guy want to used the icon them im using[06:39:30] <Jay193> The icons look nice to me.[06:39:42] <Jay193> The only one that bugs me is about with the star[06:39:43] *** Pablo_ <Pablo_!~Pablo@189.26.51.12.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:40:04] <Jay193> I don't like star icons in general[06:40:10] <Jay193> im wierd[06:40:49] <day|flip> star?[06:41:02] <day|flip> the one with the V?[06:41:32] *** pingupingu <pingupingu!~pinguping@unaffiliated/pingupingu> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:41:33] <day|flip> oo about lxqt[06:41:35] <day|flip> i see[06:42:41] <Jay193> And VMWARE does not want to work om my laptop. And i don't want to turn on my desktop. It kills electricity[06:42:48] *** Manj-1603-Lxqt <Manj-1603-Lxqt!~julian@181.131.31.252> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:43:05] <Jay193> It burns up to 900 watts[06:43:23] <day|flip> damn[06:43:41] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@138.219.51.21> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[06:44:08] <Jay193> Ill instal void tomorrow when i working so m not just burning extra electricy for no reason.[06:44:14] <Jay193> Where i live it cost a lot[06:44:33] <Jay193> .13 per kwh[06:45:02] *** Oldiesmann <Oldiesmann!~Oldiesman@simplemachines/developer/Oldiesmann> has joined #manjaro[06:45:10] <Jay193> correction .14[06:46:31] <Jay193> im turning it on.[06:46:38] <Jay193> I want to try it[06:47:00] <day|flip> eehh that alot[06:47:13] <Jay193> how much does it cost youz?[06:47:23] <day|flip> no idea. never ask the owner[06:47:32] <Jay193> you rent?[06:47:41] <day|flip> 600[06:48:53] <Jay193> 600 watts?[06:48:55] <day|flip> tbh. that really good around here. apartment run is a easy 1000[06:49:02] <Jay193> nvm[06:49:19] <Jay193> if you dont mind me asking what part of CO[06:49:31] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: tmsbrdrs)[06:49:37] <day|flip> North of denver[06:50:12] <Jay193> here is a noob question. How do i format a usb in manjaro[06:50:32] <day|flip> dd comand[06:50:48] <day|flip> but it can be slow[06:50:59] <day|flip> fdisk and gparted/parted[06:51:03] <day|flip> are faster[06:51:33] <day|flip> best bet will be parted/gparted[06:51:55] <Jay193> how does you use parted. I have only used fdisk[06:52:03] <day|flip> are you trying to install the iso to the usb?[06:52:42] <Jay193> Yeah. Ht usb currently has majaro on it[06:52:56] <day|flip> parted is easy to figure out. compare to fdisk[06:53:04] <Jay193> Okay, how do you use it[06:53:15] <day|flip> type parted in the terminal[06:53:18] <day|flip> then type[06:53:20] <day|flip> help[06:53:25] <day|flip> give you a good list[06:53:48] <day|flip> simple to understand. just take a few try to get it right[06:55:22] <day|flip> mkpart will be the main command to used[06:55:57] <Jay193> Im supprised noone has messed with me. Whenever i asked a question you or someone helped quicky[06:57:48] <day|flip> I tried my best. i learn a lot on my own. it did took me some time[06:57:49] <Jay193> how much hd space recomend. 16?[06:57:54] <day|flip> like overy a year[06:58:06] <day|flip> to test out a new distro[06:58:41] <Jay193> yeah. I really only used linux when i would do virus removal[06:59:05] <Jay193> I would boot into it with linux and wip hard drive if needed or delete files and stuff like that[06:59:26] <Jay193> that was what i used mint for.[06:59:53] <day|flip> 16 to 25 gb is about right for testing and using so long you not dl big media files[07:00:47] <Jay193> I choose cinnamon[07:00:59] <day|flip> like a bluray movie with 17gb dl[07:01:10] <Jay193> Yeah.[07:01:26] <Jay193> I dont do that. I got movies from netflix[07:01:30] <Jay193> and what not[07:02:22] <Jay193> you need a internet connection to instal?[07:02:32] <Jay193> install*[07:03:10] <day|flip> ya. the lastest iso will install the updates for the core install[07:03:52] <Jay193> booting now[07:04:35] <Jay193> I like the cinnamon sytle DE[07:04:44] <Jay193> But i also like KDE[07:05:06] <day|flip> void used kde stable[07:05:16] <day|flip> witch is like 4.13 or 14[07:05:43] <day|flip> another thing about void. it does not used systemd[07:06:08] <day|flip> but it still boot up very fast[07:07:46] <Jay193> it seem to be very fast and lightweight[07:09:08] <day|flip> this is why I suggested it. when ever void start getting kf5 in there repo. I'm moving to void[07:09:39] <Jay193> i oticed manjaro is a bit heavy on my laptop compared to mint[07:09:43] <Jay193> noticed[07:09:54] *** PcMasterRace <PcMasterRace!~anony@ip72-195-190-159.mc.at.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[07:10:38] <day|flip> i had once install kwin on void. but i had to compile all the kf5 and some plasma stuff to get it working[07:10:49] <day|flip> that took me 6hour[07:11:02] <day|flip> did not know what the hell i was doing[07:11:48] <day|flip> i wanted the kwin wm and lxqt working at the same time[07:13:18] <Jay193> I may install it to my laptop because its so easy to run. I may get a bit better battery and I can still modify it[07:13:22] <Jay193> to my needs[07:15:53] <Jay193> Im now tired. Nice talking to you and hope to see you again. Good night.[07:16:43] <day|flip> take care[07:16:46] <day|flip> good night[07:16:54] *** Jay193 <Jay193!6020005d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.96.32.0.93> has left #manjaro[07:21:48] *** manjaro-web|7113 <manjaro-web|7113!5685f0d5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.86.133.240.213> has joined #manjaro[07:24:23] *** manjaro-web|7113 <manjaro-web|7113!5685f0d5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.86.133.240.213> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[07:35:32] *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has joined #manjaro[07:36:38] *** kaelthas_ <kaelthas_!~kaelthas@unaffiliated/kaelthas> has joined #manjaro[07:39:31] *** kaelthas <kaelthas!~kaelthas@unaffiliated/kaelthas> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:47:28] *** crebe <crebe!49c43f7f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.196.63.127> has joined #manjaro[07:48:12] <crebe> hi, can someone please tell me how manjaro linux varies from arch linux?[07:48:14] <crebe> should[07:48:23] <crebe> I prefer to run arch instead?[07:50:23] <crebe> I want to replace windows and run a better os[07:51:12] *** kaelthas_ is now known as kaelthas[07:51:33] *** timb1ts <timb1ts!~timb1ts@unaffiliated/timb1ts> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:55:20] *** crebe <crebe!49c43f7f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.196.63.127> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[07:58:16] *** manjaro-web|3964 <manjaro-web|3964!49c43f7f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.196.63.127> has joined #manjaro[07:59:13] *** manjaro-web|3964 <manjaro-web|3964!49c43f7f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.196.63.127> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[07:59:27] *** day|flip <day|flip!~Days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!)[08:01:14] *** elcaven <elcaven!~manjaro-k@213.181.39.195> has joined #manjaro[08:01:44] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #manjaro[08:05:03] *** philo <philo!~philo@2601:646:8f01:6e50:968a:5033:2524:4180> has joined #manjaro[08:05:50] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has joined #manjaro[08:11:53] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-95-94.nt.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[08:12:08] *** BryzNSTY <BryzNSTY!~manjaro-k@NTL208H101-95-94.nt.net> has joined #manjaro[08:22:28] <BryzNSTY> https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/30eksf/arch_vs_manjaro/[08:22:29] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/tfBSxp] (link was unresponsive: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/30eksf/arch_vs_manjaro/)[08:22:37] <BryzNSTY> crebe[08:32:03] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[08:34:09] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~LyriCa@172.56.34.166> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[08:36:36] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[08:36:58] *** NNN <NNN!~test@37.57.0.235> has joined #manjaro[08:37:30] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has joined #manjaro[08:46:28] *** MiVo <MiVo!MiVo@2600:3c01:e001:3920::2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[08:54:46] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@92.253.38.93> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:56:28] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has joined #manjaro[08:57:34] *** semeion <semeion!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has joined #manjaro[08:57:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v semeion[08:59:00] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-154-92.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[09:03:37] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: mmh mmh bang bang boom boom pop pop)[09:08:03] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[09:09:27] *** Oldiesmann <Oldiesmann!~Oldiesman@simplemachines/developer/Oldiesmann> has quit IRC (Quit: No, no, no. Go past this. Pass this part. In fact, never play this again.)[09:10:01] *** Iron0xid <Iron0xid!~Iron0xid@p54996E9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[09:10:41] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has joined #manjaro[09:12:39] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-fpfbmtklklofwcfm> has joined #manjaro[09:20:10] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[09:25:19] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has joined #manjaro[09:25:34] *** Manj-1604-Lxqt <Manj-1604-Lxqt!~ms2300@c-73-196-63-127.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[09:26:57] <Manj-1604-Lxqt> hi I need help running a .deb in manjaro...?[09:27:21] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xggoguqapbchelsu> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[09:27:28] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has joined #manjaro[09:27:56] *** MiVo <MiVo!MiVo@2600:3c01:e001:3920::2> has joined #manjaro[09:28:14] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[09:31:08] *** Manj-1604-Lxqt is now known as merk[09:33:48] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@88.247.118.243> has joined #manjaro[09:35:19] <merk> is that even possible to run a .deb in manjaro?[09:42:48] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:b3de:3de9:531f:5ce2> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:42:48] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@s1v69-1-88-121-84-115.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[09:43:24] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@87.154.2.123.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #manjaro[09:43:56] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[09:43:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[09:44:21] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as manjaro-ata[09:45:35] *** manjaro-ata is now known as AG-Manjaro[09:46:54] *** manjaro-web|1322 <manjaro-web|1322!b89b8464@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.184.155.132.100> has joined #manjaro[09:47:34] *** philo <philo!~philo@2601:646:8f01:6e50:968a:5033:2524:4180> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[09:47:58] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@bb115-66-47-36.singnet.com.sg> has joined #manjaro[09:48:27] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@bb115-66-47-36.singnet.com.sg> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:49:04] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@88.247.118.243> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:49:11] *** manjaro-web|1322 <manjaro-web|1322!b89b8464@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.184.155.132.100> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:49:26] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@88.247.118.243> has joined #manjaro[09:50:02] *** AG-Manjaro <AG-Manjaro!~manjaro-k@87.154.2.123.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[09:50:41] *** logan123 <logan123!b89b8464@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.184.155.132.100> has joined #manjaro[09:51:39] <merk> hi does anyone here know how to run a .deb file in manjaro?[09:52:12] <Strit_Laptop> merk, You would need to re package it. You sure there's not an Arch package for it, either in repo or AUR?[09:53:05] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@87.154.2.123.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #manjaro[09:53:43] <merk> yes i already looked[09:53:44] <merk> thanks[09:53:45] *** logan123 <logan123!b89b8464@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.184.155.132.100> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:54:52] *** logan123 <logan123!b89b8464@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.184.155.132.100> has joined #manjaro[09:55:19] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@87.154.2.123.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:55:54] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@87.154.2.123.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #manjaro[09:57:01] <Strit_Laptop> merk, what software/package is it?[09:57:44] <merk> newest one i believe just installed it[09:58:15] <Strit_Laptop> I didn't ask about the version, I want to know what software the deb package contains?[09:58:29] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as manjaro-kde5-[09:58:45] *** manjaro-kde5- is now known as Mezardaa[10:03:49] *** flawless <flawless!~flawless@hst-31-89.splius.lt> has joined #manjaro[10:04:52] *** logan123 <logan123!b89b8464@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.184.155.132.100> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[10:04:54] *** Mezardaa <Mezardaa!~manjaro-k@87.154.2.123.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:05:49] *** logan123 <logan123!b89b8464@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.184.155.132.100> has joined #manjaro[10:06:15] *** logan123 <logan123!b89b8464@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.184.155.132.100> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:09:40] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@88.247.118.243> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[10:10:15] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@88.247.118.243> has joined #manjaro[10:13:39] *** Cerber <Cerber!~PHP7-0-8-@mail.de02.searchtrends.eu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[10:14:48] <merk> it has safejumper for my vpn installed[10:14:58] <merk> i need to install dpkg[10:15:14] <merk> new to manjaro from linux mint[10:19:34] *** Cerber <Cerber!~PHP7-0-8-@mail.de02.searchtrends.eu> has joined #manjaro[10:19:55] *** flawless <flawless!~flawless@hst-31-89.splius.lt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[10:20:00] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:20:09] <merk> so yarout dpkg ?[10:22:57] *** jarco_ <jarco_!~jarco@dD5E0341A.access.telenet.be> has joined #manjaro[10:24:27] *** Cerber <Cerber!~PHP7-0-8-@mail.de02.searchtrends.eu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[10:26:27] *** manjaro-web|8019 <manjaro-web|8019!4d6914fc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.105.20.252> has joined #manjaro[10:27:34] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-087-030.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[10:28:37] <peetaur2> merk: you should probably not ever install a deb in manjaro... instead just unpack it and use the files without install. And install software from AUR with yaourt[10:28:49] <Strit_Laptop> installing debs on manjaro is not recommended, and very rarely actually works.[10:29:14] <Strit_Laptop> merk, did you try this package: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/safejumper/[10:29:15] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/J07yiH] AUR (en) - safejumper[10:29:30] <Lowl3v3l> why would one even want to install deb packages in manjaro?[10:29:53] *** manjaro-web|8019 <manjaro-web|8019!4d6914fc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.105.20.252> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:30:06] <peetaur2> Lowl3v3l: because they have a deb and don't know what else to do ;)[10:30:48] <merk> thanks for site[10:31:54] <peetaur2> merk: use yaourt to install rather than the url[10:31:57] <Strit_Laptop> merk, I asked you if you had looked on the AUR and you said you had. The package safejumper is in the AUR, so you could install it with "yaourt -S safejumper"[10:34:12] <merk> my mistake[10:35:22] *** manj-1509-Lxde1 <manj-1509-Lxde1!~manjaro@bai129.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[10:37:21] *** merk <merk!~ms2300@c-73-196-63-127.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:39:03] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[10:45:17] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has joined #manjaro[10:48:59] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@softbank219033070003.bbtec.net> has joined #manjaro[10:49:25] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@softbank219033070003.bbtec.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:52:39] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-78-214-50.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[10:53:07] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:55:03] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oopofbohsqevijvz> has joined #manjaro[10:55:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[10:58:05] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-78-214-50.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[11:02:32] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:02:38] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@88.247.118.243> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:03:40] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has joined #manjaro[11:13:37] *** xircon1 <xircon1!~communi@2a02:c7f:5e1b:5200:4a51:b7ff:febb:7a33> has joined #manjaro[11:13:44] *** Tjong <Tjong!~Tjong@p5B208A36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[11:15:33] *** manj-1509-Lxde1 <manj-1509-Lxde1!~manjaro@bai129.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:16:16] *** jarco <jarco!~jarco@d54c3c471.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[11:18:13] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@88.247.118.243> has joined #manjaro[11:20:44] *** MiVo <MiVo!MiVo@2600:3c01:e001:3920::2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:26:43] *** GenZai <GenZai!~emil@mnt60-1-88-186-66-2.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[11:31:25] *** alexandros_c <alexandros_c!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[11:31:38] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has joined #manjaro[11:34:49] <Aria22> Guys, how do I receive a GPG key?[11:35:17] <peetaur2> Aria22: to your own personal keyring, gpg --recv-keys keyid. for keyid, prefer the long id aka fingerprint, otherwise the short id.[11:35:32] <peetaur2> short ids can be brute forced much easier... square root of the long[11:35:32] <Aria22> peetaur2: it gives me this:[11:35:36] <Aria22> [rose@rose-desktop ~]$ gpg --recv-key 1EB2638FF56C0C53[11:35:36] <Aria22> gpg: keyserver receive failed: No keyserver available[11:35:49] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[11:35:58] <peetaur2> ok then you'll have to either specify the keyserver, or find it in a file and gpg --import[11:36:13] <Aria22> How do I find the keyserver?[11:36:32] <Aria22> This one is for PacAUR[11:36:47] <peetaur2> you can probably look for the key id online, possibly with spaces between every 4 1EB2 638F F56C 0C53 (and that's a short key id)[11:37:11] <peetaur2> if you're paranoid, you must ensure the fingerprnit matches what you got in reasonably some safe way if you have used a short key id.[11:37:28] <peetaur2> (and the long id is the fingerprint, so you have likely already done that)[11:38:24] <Aria22> Is 1EB2638FF56C0C53 a short id or fingerprint?[11:38:34] <peetaur2> hmm actually I think the long key id is half the size of the fingerprint ;)[11:38:55] <peetaur2> it is the length of a short id[11:38:58] <peetaur2> er long[11:39:06] <peetaur2> I think short ids are deprecated and not used by newer software any mre[11:39:26] <elomatreb> Short IDs have become feasible to fake in recent years, so they're avoided where possible[11:40:02] <peetaur2> and I don't know where to find the key... I found one thread that has a keyserver but different id gpg --keyserver x-hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 1EB2638FF56C0C53 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=119473&p=20[11:40:02] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/JBOcH7] pacaur - an AUR helper that minimizes user interaction (Page 20) / Community Contributions / Arch Linux Forums[11:40:06] <peetaur2> I put your key in there though[11:40:27] <peetaur2> oh and now I read closer and he said it's for ffmpeg-full which is not what you want I guess[11:40:39] <Aria22> I already got it working.. I probably did it wrong though, since I did not verify the key..[11:40:43] <Aria22> but what I used was:[11:40:53] <Aria22> gpg --recv-keys --keyserver hkp://pgp.mit.edu 1EB2638FF56C0C53[11:40:59] <Aria22> Which I got from a comment on the "cower" package in the AUR[11:41:05] <elomatreb> You can't really verify the key without a web of trust, which is infeasible for something like AUR keys[11:42:04] <peetaur2> hmm but I do happen to have this key, where the 2nd half seems to match yours 487E ACC0 8557 AD08 2088 DABA 1EB2 638F F56C 0C53[11:42:34] <peetaur2> which I have exported to here if you want it https://clbin.com/NxRgg[11:42:35] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/fvKQtE] (not a web page, content type: text/plain)[11:43:00] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:43:11] <peetaur2> rsa2048 ... bleh :P[11:43:32] <Aria22> So... how does one verify an AUR key, and what danger is there to using a bad key?[11:43:57] <peetaur2> yeah unless the AUR keys are for the project, eg. qemu, kernel.org, etc. it's not so easy to fully trust them[11:44:11] <peetaur2> not a bad key... just a bad guy that has a key[11:44:14] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[11:44:16] <peetaur2> he can prove the file is what he had and signed[11:44:22] <peetaur2> but you don't know if he's a trustworthy guy or not[11:44:26] <elomatreb> If you can't establish a line of trust to the key, trusting something like this chat to provide legitimate fingerprints is your only option[11:44:58] <peetaur2> but also you have to know where you got the key... so if you get it from my https link there, you have to trust that this irc convo wasn't manipulated, the key I have is actually his too, etc.[11:45:12] <Aria22> So basically there are some packages in the AUR that are malicious, and getting a genuine key for such a program would cause damage because it would allow an install? If I understand correctly?[11:45:35] <Aria22> Or would it somehow modify what program you're fetching from the AUR?[11:45:40] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@157.122.148.144> has joined #manjaro[11:45:45] <elomatreb> A gpg key is used to prove that a given package or file comes from the author you want it to come from[11:45:48] <peetaur2> Aria22: I have searched and actually found no malicious history in any AUR packages... so youcan't say there are any, just that there could be some hiding and people haven't spotted them yet.[11:46:07] <Aria22> elomatreb: ahhhhh[11:46:16] <peetaur2> so a key means you can prove who it was (which could be a pseudonym, without being able to find the culprit), but not whether the guy is trustworthy[11:46:45] <Aria22> How is the key linked to the file itself? Is it sort of like an md5 hash?[11:46:46] <elomatreb> It can even do that, but you need something called "Web of trust" to do that[11:47:11] <elomatreb> Aria22: gpg is based on asymmetric cryptography, in this case RSA[11:47:12] <peetaur2> Aria22: it's the result of a a cryptographic algorithm, just like md5, but not at all the same as md5[11:47:33] <Aria22> Sooo... someone could be posting a modified, malicious package, and steal a GPG key.. would that GPG key then work?[11:47:49] <elomatreb> If they manage to steal the *private* part of the key, yes[11:48:05] <peetaur2> Aria22: if they managed to steal the gpg private key, yes[11:48:07] <Aria22> Ahhh, so it has a public and /private/ part?[11:48:28] <peetaur2> yes "asymmetric" has that...[11:48:30] <elomatreb> Yes. Explaining it for encrpytion is a little bit easier, so:[11:48:53] <elomatreb> Anyone who has someones public key can encrypt for that person, but only the person holding the corresponding private key can decrypt irt[11:49:05] <Aria22> Okay... so what if someone stole a package, injected it with malicious code, but gave the public key without having the private key - an unaltered GPG key.. would the package then refuse to install?[11:49:08] <peetaur2> encrypt or verify signatures[11:49:29] <Aria22> gave the public key to the people who would install it *[11:49:33] <peetaur2> Aria22: a silly user would just disable gpg and install anyway[11:49:42] <peetaur2> Aria22: but yaourt, pacaur, etc. would refuse normally[11:49:53] <elomatreb> Aria22: If they tricked the users into believing the new key is legitimate, yes[11:49:54] <Aria22> Oh, good. I won't be disabling gpg then :o[11:50:32] <peetaur2> good that you don't... and don't be too paranoid, but you really never have to disable it[11:51:00] <peetaur2> like let's say he added the wrong key... so it's impossible to fix right? nope... you can find some other way to verify, like maybe someone has posted an sha512 hash of it on another site, and you can modify the PKGBUILD to use that instead of gpg[11:51:04] <Aria22> Well, obviously every system is exploitable, so every layer of security that's built in, in my opinion, is a good thing[11:51:45] <elomatreb> The problem with gpg is that the core mechanism is very secure, but it doesn't attempt to solve the problem we were discusing (which keys to trust)[11:51:45] <peetaur2> yep, everything has holes... just having a stack of pages with holes with the holes lining up together is much less likely[11:51:46] <Aria22> I mean, I've never seen a system that couldn't be exploited... do those even exisst?[11:52:03] <Aria22> elomatreb: Yeah, that does sound problematic :o[11:52:11] <peetaur2> Aria22: if you put your system in a black hole, it would be pretty resistant[11:52:22] <Aria22> peetaur2: Lol, but also (debatably) non-existent[11:52:26] <elomatreb> To be fair, RSA is from the 1970s and gpg from the early 90s[11:52:31] <peetaur2> not only can the data they steal never escape, but it's also nearly frozen in time and hard to interact with in your lifetime :)[11:52:54] <Aria22> What about SHA1? is SHA1 outdated?[11:53:00] <Aria22> or AES-256?[11:53:03] <peetaur2> sha1 is not "broken" as in made easier by some trick[11:53:12] <peetaur2> but it is weak... made easy by moores law + time[11:53:19] <peetaur2> md5 is however broken[11:53:22] *** fred-fri <fred-fri!~fred-fri@59-100-209-246.bri.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #manjaro[11:53:23] <elomatreb> SHA1 is becoming weaker and weaker, should not be trusted where collision resistance is important[11:53:25] <peetaur2> and even weaker[11:53:34] <Aria22> Yeah, I heard.. md5 has been cracked, right?[11:53:41] <Aria22> Okay, what about AES-256?[11:53:52] <elomatreb> AES is secure, but many "modes of operation" are being broken or incorrectly implemented[11:54:23] <elomatreb> AES can only encrypt blocks of a fixed size, so messages have to be split. This is very is to mess up[11:54:47] <Aria22> Okay, so what encryption available to consumers right now, is top notch in terms of resistance?[11:54:48] <peetaur2> Aria22: aes is symmetric, so 256 is lots and pretty secure...maybe similar to sha256; there are sites around that will compare them somewhere[11:54:49] *** Tiny- <Tiny-!~GimmeMyMo@113.59.210.125> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:55:03] *** fred-fri <fred-fri!~fred-fri@59-100-209-246.bri.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has left #manjaro[11:55:06] <peetaur2> aes can decrypt and encrypt, so nothing like sha[11:55:09] <peetaur2> but same number of bits[11:55:13] *** casimir <casimir!~casimir@150.129.169.98> has joined #manjaro[11:55:29] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@157.122.148.144> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:55:33] <elomatreb> The current "gold-standard" for transport encryption is the cipher system developed by Daniel Bernstein, ChaCHa20/Poly1305[11:55:55] *** Nishikino-Maki <Nishikino-Maki!~Thunderbi@157.122.148.144> has joined #manjaro[11:55:58] <peetaur2> and I assume you can't sign with AES... it relies on a shared secret (using key exchange algo probably), so anyone with the means to verify can also forge it, which makes not sense for signing[11:55:58] <casimir> hello[11:56:10] <elomatreb> Combined with Ed25519 and/or a PQ key exchange[11:57:09] <elomatreb> peetaur2: You can do very much with a generic block cipher primitive, but "true" algorithms are generally better[11:57:10] <peetaur2> ed25519 is supported by newer linux ssh, and maybe not some solaris or something[11:57:17] <peetaur2> but you can't always choose any algo...only what the software supports[11:57:35] <elomatreb> Everything except old Java and some WIndows clients supports Ed25519[11:57:43] <Aria22> So does the ssh in manjaro use Poly1305?[11:57:48] <peetaur2> Aria22: ah here's the page I was thinking of about comparing algos https://www.keylength.com/[11:57:49] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/Xi0Sw2] Keylength - Cryptographic Key Length Recommendation[11:58:09] <Aria22> peetaur2: Thanks :)[11:58:26] <elomatreb> Symmetric key length isn't generally a factor nowadays, as even AES128 is assumed to be PQ secure[11:58:34] <peetaur2> elomatreb: rumor has it that older linux (maybe rhel 5 and 6) and other non-linux *nix (bsd, solaris, dunno what) might not support it, so people say to use the less secure ecdsa which many don't trust and prefer rsa4096[11:58:54] <Aria22> Hmmm... that site, or the latest reports on it, recommend SHA-516[11:58:55] <peetaur2> obviously openbsd would support it since our ssh is just from them[11:59:07] <peetaur2> and so probably newer of any bsd too[11:59:23] <elomatreb> All of these options are fine, but some are easier to mess up than others. It's easy to have side-channel leaks in ECDSA for instance[11:59:36] <peetaur2> Aria22: sha-512 is the strongest sha2 hash algo, but you can't use it for everything... like decryption and signing[11:59:47] <elomatreb> djb-curves are designed to not required data-depended control flow, making them constant-time[12:00:21] <peetaur2> signing is not the same as hashing... I could send you a signature and program together insecurely and the public key securely, and it would still be secure. With a hash, you need it to be secure too.[12:00:22] <elomatreb> You can only use a hashing algorithm for hashing, and usually as a keyed function[12:00:48] <elomatreb> Bottom line: Modern crypto is very complicated[12:01:24] <peetaur2> and 2nd from the bottom line: many people don't update to new algos, so you end up supporting them too, so downgrade attacks are easy and a threat[12:01:49] <elomatreb> peetaur2: Your example wouldn't be secure, as an attacker could forge the public key in transit[12:02:01] *** casimir <casimir!~casimir@150.129.169.98> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:02:04] <elomatreb> Assuming the user has no trust verification[12:02:08] <peetaur2> really we should all just use sha2, rsa4096 and ed25519 or stronger... and even dsa (limited to 1024 bits) which was obsolete many years ago can still be found in use today[12:02:17] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@120.59.69.253> has joined #manjaro[12:02:57] <peetaur2> elomatreb: which example? I said "securely" and didn't specify how... eg. email it to you and hand you a piece of paper with the fingerprint on it (and make sure you verify it within 30 years or they could brute force a match by then)[12:03:13] <elomatreb> Ah, didn't see that[12:03:15] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:03:18] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has joined #manjaro[12:03:32] *** MiVo <MiVo!MiVo@2600:3c01:e001:3920::2> has joined #manjaro[12:03:42] *** shambles07 <shambles07!32b2539f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.50.178.83.159> has joined #manjaro[12:04:53] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@120.59.69.253> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:04:53] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-58c037-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[12:04:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Lukimya[12:05:40] <shambles07> hello manjaro community![12:06:06] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-58c037-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:06:09] <elomatreb> hello![12:07:11] <Aria22> hi shambles07 :o[12:07:27] <Aria22> I feel like changing my nickname.[12:07:38] <shambles07> brb![12:07:47] *** shambles07 <shambles07!32b2539f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.50.178.83.159> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:07:59] *** Aria22 is now known as Rose_Aleria[12:08:01] <Rose_Aleria> There ^.^[12:08:49] *** shambles07 <shambles07!~rob@2601:243:c901:cd90::9> has joined #manjaro[12:08:57] <shambles07> aaand i'm back![12:09:07] <shambles07> (switched to Konversation)[12:09:36] <Rose_Aleria> shambles07: I can highly recommend Quassel :3[12:09:43] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has joined #manjaro[12:09:58] <Rose_Aleria> It's a matter of preference, though. But quassel works really well and it has a built-in bouncer-ish server/client system ^^[12:10:11] <elomatreb> Hexchat + ZNC is nice[12:10:26] <shambles07> why Quassel?[12:10:36] <shambles07> intersting[12:10:46] <shambles07> sorry i just changed my colors and couldn't read what you typed :P[12:11:09] *** darjusit <darjusit!~darjusit@78.61.211.191> has joined #manjaro[12:11:20] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has joined #manjaro[12:11:49] <darjusit> I have manjaro 16.06 I am new to manjaro, how to make printcreen working?[12:12:00] <Rose_Aleria> elomatreb: I tried that, but between the backlog looking all weird, ZNC needing configuration via /znc, awkwardness with some IRC clients that don't properly part/join.. I prefer quassel, less buggy, more hassle-free[12:12:01] <shambles07> which DE are you using?[12:12:17] <shambles07> @darjusit[12:12:18] <darjusit> xfce[12:12:34] <shambles07> what's the built-in printsceen application for that?[12:12:36] <peetaur2> I like konversation fine... but it has no scripting so you can't annoy people with automated spam :([12:12:49] <shambles07> i'm on KDE so it uses spectacle i believe now[12:13:03] <shambles07> which i have to say i am a fan of[12:13:09] <elomatreb> Rose_Aleria: Haven't had any problems with ZNC, and to be honest I use Hexchat because it was preinstalled[12:13:22] <shambles07> HexChat os moce[12:13:24] <shambles07> is nice[12:13:26] <shambles07> lmao[12:13:40] <shambles07> http://www.cupoflinux.com/SBB/index.php?topic=3161.0[12:13:42] <Rose_Aleria> I like hexchat too[12:13:43] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/sCuWAf] [SOLVED] How to take a screenshot?[12:13:47] <Rose_Aleria> but i'm currently on KDE[12:14:06] <shambles07> that link should help[12:14:11] <shambles07> if it popped up for you[12:14:47] <Rose_Aleria> Why is cup of linux so popular? O.O[12:14:54] <shambles07> what IS cup of linux?[12:15:03] <shambles07> that forum i just linked...[12:15:04] <shambles07> lol[12:15:09] <Rose_Aleria> A youtube channel[12:15:10] <shambles07> i've never seen it b4 tbh[12:15:10] <Rose_Aleria> A person[12:15:23] <shambles07> didn't know that lol[12:15:24] <Rose_Aleria> ...with the brand name "Spatry's cup of linux"[12:15:49] <shambles07> how about your opinion on Nixie Pixel?[12:16:07] <darjusit> shambles07: were is screenshow soft but it seams it not set to button[12:16:54] <shambles07> you have to set a shortcut i believe[12:17:06] <Rose_Aleria> I like Nixie Pixel ^.^ Most Linux users on YouTube are male, and i'm a linux-using girl myself, so it's nice to see another linux girl ^^[12:17:20] <shambles07> her channel is informative[12:17:31] <shambles07> a bit cringey at times by saying pr0n like it's 2006[12:17:41] <shambles07> but other than that i think it's a great informative channel[12:18:01] <shambles07> and yeah that's true about linux being mostly a male thing[12:18:17] <shambles07> not very many women into IT or linux for that matter[12:18:23] <shambles07> at least from my experience in school[12:18:30] <shambles07> maybe one girl in a class of 20[12:19:28] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has joined #manjaro[12:20:00] <Rose_Aleria> I don't really like IT that much, but I sure do enjoy the freedom from the latest windows 10 fiasco...;[12:20:35] <Rose_Aleria> I'm more of a composer and musician :3 but i'm trying to get that running on Linux properly. Challenging, but I got a part of my studio running on it ^^[12:21:08] <elomatreb> Composer as in classical music?[12:21:10] <Rose_Aleria> And my latest song on YouTube was actually recorded on Linux :D the crackling while recording was a bit of a problem though. JACK is complicated >__<[12:21:17] <Rose_Aleria> Composer as in movie score, classical, and so on[12:21:22] <shambles07> i'm glad that you said that[12:21:28] <shambles07> linux is amazing[12:21:40] <Rose_Aleria> Here, i'll show you:[12:21:45] <shambles07> especially with how far it has come in the past year or so... plus we have vulkan to look forward to[12:21:54] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-92-25-205-196.as13285.net> has joined #manjaro[12:21:58] <Rose_Aleria> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rs5EM_WfWU[12:21:59] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/qMSfqh] New song WorkInProgress - Got movie score production working on Linux! - YouTube[12:22:05] <elomatreb> ah, nice. I have recommended LMMS as a free alternative to FL Studio a few times, was generally well received[12:22:13] <Rose_Aleria> The song is bad because it was just for demonstration purposes, better songs can be found on the rest of my channel ^^[12:22:16] <shambles07> i'll have to check that out![12:22:20] <shambles07> i produce music as well[12:22:26] <shambles07> kind of house/glitch-hop[12:22:30] <shambles07> been a while tho[12:23:02] <Rose_Aleria> I make a style of movie score that I try to make as organic as possible without having an orchestra at my disposal[12:23:06] <shambles07> question: do VSTs work on linux?[12:23:16] <Rose_Aleria> shambles07: Yes, look at the video :3 It takes some effort, though.[12:23:24] <Rose_Aleria> It's made a lot easier by the KXStudio project[12:23:30] <Rose_Aleria> It requires WINE and some KXStudio programs[12:23:34] <shambles07> oh wow[12:23:41] <shambles07> this is some really nice stuff Rose![12:23:45] <Rose_Aleria> Thank you ^^[12:24:07] <shambles07> you have KOMPAKT running through wine?[12:24:13] <Rose_Aleria> KONTAKT, but yes :)[12:24:17] <shambles07> my bad[12:24:25] <shambles07> i've heard great things[12:24:31] <shambles07> i just use FL Studio lol[12:24:31] <Rose_Aleria> Oh wait, yes, KOMPAKT as well[12:24:37] <Rose_Aleria> In the video it's KOMPAKT[12:24:41] <shambles07> all my friends have tried to get me to switch to ableton[12:24:46] <shambles07> thanks for the correction lol[12:25:00] <Rose_Aleria> Both FL studio and ableton don't fit my workflow...[12:25:08] <Rose_Aleria> because I record everything live instead of sequence[12:25:09] <shambles07> are you looking to maybe score a documentary or indie film?[12:25:13] <shambles07> that's really awesome[12:25:20] <shambles07> you have a lot of talent[12:25:24] <Rose_Aleria> I am looking to make it into a freelance job someday ^^[12:25:26] <Rose_Aleria> Thank you :)[12:25:43] <shambles07> well i'm considering making a documentary about some of the issues in the area i live in[12:25:57] <Rose_Aleria> uhuh? :D[12:26:06] <shambles07> i live by chicago, and there's a lot of things i feel need a voice that don't really currently[12:26:13] <shambles07> like the transgender community[12:26:20] <shambles07> and the heroin epidemic[12:26:25] * Rose_Aleria nodnods[12:26:28] <Rose_Aleria> I would be open to it ^^[12:26:38] <elomatreb> Rose_Aleria: I really enjoyed the track you sent btw[12:26:41] <shambles07> that would be really cool![12:26:42] <Rose_Aleria> elomatreb: Thanks ^^[12:26:53] <Rose_Aleria> elomatreb: You mean the video I sent? Ahh... that song is one of my worst :P[12:27:20] <shambles07> i have a buddy with a DSLR and he's realllllllly into working with his band but (imo it's not gonna go anywhere) and i think documentaries are the way to go[12:27:22] <Rose_Aleria> Try this one instead.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M98ovHgoP2A[12:27:23] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/IbLqQO] Ariana Silver - Song of the Moon (Original Song - Folk/Pagan/Cinematic) - YouTube[12:27:29] <shambles07> plus i have a really big interest in filmmaking[12:27:44] <shambles07> i actually made a music video for them recently... would anyone like to check it out?[12:27:55] <Rose_Aleria> shambles07: I am currently having some problems in life that are preventing me from starting freelance, but i'm working on that[12:27:59] <peetaur2> you two should get together and make a movie already[12:28:04] <shambles07> i understand[12:28:25] <Rose_Aleria> Oh, also... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymtShGH267w[12:28:26] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/m4D5Cj] Rose Tinted Dreams - Winter, Part II: Ice (PIANO ONLY VERSION / Raw Take / Original Song / Fantasy) - YouTube[12:28:33] <shambles07> lol i need the necessary tools first! shooting on my Note 4 will look decent, but i want the manual focus that comes with a DSLR[12:28:39] * Rose_Aleria giggles[12:28:47] <Rose_Aleria> Yeah, definitely don't want Note 4-quality recordings :P[12:29:12] <shambles07> i mean, they look GREAT, but there's no focus, no depth of field[12:29:30] <shambles07> it's good for like, short random vids, but not like a documentary[12:29:37] <Rose_Aleria> If you can afford professional quality, definitely go for that :3[12:30:05] <shambles07> i have access to the tools! just a matter of finding the time.. i start school in 6 weeks, 6 courses and an internship and i graduate[12:30:12] <Rose_Aleria> :D[12:30:19] *** NaoTix <NaoTix!~tix@176.139.185.179> has joined #manjaro[12:30:19] <Rose_Aleria> Oh, also, shambles07.. this is how I do it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIay56IlO3c[12:30:20] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/Xq27a7] Quick (piano)harp improvisation :3 - YouTube[12:30:20] <NaoTix> Hi[12:30:21] <shambles07> and i'm kinda working on getting in a relationship atm[12:30:25] <Rose_Aleria> That's one layer of a recording[12:30:32] *** xircon1 <xircon1!~communi@2a02:c7f:5e1b:5200:4a51:b7ff:febb:7a33> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:30:41] <shambles07> czeching it out now[12:31:05] <shambles07> and you play all these instruments?[12:31:08] <Rose_Aleria> Yup![12:31:12] <shambles07> that's amazing!![12:31:14] <Rose_Aleria> Thanks :D[12:31:29] <shambles07> you're very talented[12:31:34] <Rose_Aleria> Thank you :3[12:31:43] <shambles07> very elder scrolls sounding[12:31:50] <shambles07> hit up that modding community ASAP[12:32:02] <Rose_Aleria> Sadly, currently, some very controlling parents are preventing this composer lady from starting this professionally[12:32:08] <Rose_Aleria> Which I am working on...[12:32:10] <shambles07> ah, i understand[12:32:24] <shambles07> are you all self-taught?[12:32:48] <Rose_Aleria> Some of it is self-taught, when it comes to music. I started by learning guitar from a friend[12:32:54] <shambles07> nice![12:32:54] <Rose_Aleria> The rest, I branched out by myself[12:33:12] <shambles07> that's really cool[12:33:25] <Rose_Aleria> Thanks ^^[12:33:33] <shambles07> i play bass... have been playing for about 10 years but off/on[12:33:36] <shambles07> so i'm not that good at it[12:33:38] <Rose_Aleria> But yeah, since Windows 10 became a... well, problem, I've been trying to move my music production to Linuix[12:33:39] <Rose_Aleria> Linux*[12:33:41] <shambles07> but, i'm not terrible either[12:33:46] <shambles07> yeah i gotcha[12:33:47] <Rose_Aleria> the problem is that some VST's won't work[12:33:57] <shambles07> ahh, that's what i was wondering[12:34:07] <shambles07> since all my work is done through VSTs[12:34:12] <Rose_Aleria> Kontakt works, so does kompakt, and my piano VsT.. so most of the orchestral stuff works[12:34:24] <Rose_Aleria> But then there's the stuff that people like Adrian von Ziegler use - and it's called Forest Kingdom[12:34:33] <Rose_Aleria> That refuses to work over WINE[12:34:45] <shambles07> weird[12:34:56] <Rose_Aleria> It has to do with incompatibility between 64-bit and 32-bit[12:35:01] <shambles07> anyway, i thought i'd show you the music video i edited: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tORLFr6WOe0[12:35:03] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/hgQA51] Nimrod - Jump for Joy [Official Music Video] - YouTube[12:35:08] <Rose_Aleria> *clicks it*[12:35:26] <shambles07> i'm the one in the teal hat[12:35:37] <shambles07> (seafoam green if you want to get technical)[12:36:13] <Rose_Aleria> Wow! Looks very professional :D[12:36:25] <shambles07> think so? i thought it turned out pretty well![12:36:40] <Rose_Aleria> Yeah, all the cuts happen in line with the music ^^[12:36:58] <shambles07> that was a fun a lot of fun to do[12:37:04] <shambles07> wait..[12:37:08] <Rose_Aleria> I would definitely see this kind of thing being accepted by a TV ad company or likewise[12:37:10] <shambles07> you know what i meant lol[12:37:14] <Rose_Aleria> Yes :P[12:37:41] <Rose_Aleria> Very well-made :)[12:37:51] <shambles07> hopefully! this was my first i guess "big project" in any sort of film work[12:37:53] <shambles07> so thank you![12:38:05] <Rose_Aleria> You're welcome ^.^[12:38:39] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@162.216.46.193> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[12:38:40] <Rose_Aleria> But yeah, Forest Kingdom is what powers most of Adrian von Ziegler's instrumentals[12:38:51] <Rose_Aleria> As well as some other famous YouTube composers[12:38:59] <shambles07> but i've been watching a lot of short documentaries about all sorts of things, like VICE, but i prefer watching the smaller unknown folks type of stuff[12:39:17] <Rose_Aleria> I personally think VICE did a great job on covering the Panama Papers :)[12:39:18] <shambles07> i watched a great one about the crack community of atlanta. very interesting and sad[12:39:34] <shambles07> where i live there's a HUGE middle class heroin epidemic[12:39:40] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@88.247.118.243> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[12:39:43] <Rose_Aleria> (which sadly has gotten ignored by the mainstream media shortly after it was announced)[12:39:59] <Rose_Aleria> Like, more information flowed in but the mainstream news started ignoring it...[12:39:59] <shambles07> and i want to do something on that. because i feel like it needs to be known and people's stories need to be shared[12:40:13] <Rose_Aleria> Yeah, that definitely sounds like a problem O.O[12:40:20] <Rose_Aleria> Is that because of finance?[12:40:32] <shambles07> is what because of finance?[12:40:37] <Rose_Aleria> The heroin epidemic[12:40:44] <shambles07> mmm. i live near chicago[12:41:00] <shambles07> and the suburbs are filled with white kids who grew up with great families who turned to it[12:41:05] <shambles07> it's the new cocaine in this area[12:41:09] <Rose_Aleria> yikes...[12:41:12] <shambles07> like, 80's cocaine[12:41:25] <shambles07> it's terrible. so many friends have died[12:41:30] <shambles07> i'm clean a year and a half[12:41:39] <Rose_Aleria> And the people who are addicted to it want to get off it?[12:41:49] <shambles07> they do because it is ruining their lives[12:41:56] <Rose_Aleria> Understandable...[12:41:57] <shambles07> but it's a VERY VERY difficult thing to quit[12:42:04] <Rose_Aleria> I can imagine[12:42:06] <shambles07> one of the hardest things i've ever done[12:42:26] <shambles07> but, if i can do it, so can they, you know?[12:42:31] <shambles07> it's a matter of willpower[12:42:35] <Rose_Aleria> By the way, did you know that certain kinds of prescription medicine have many many many similarities to illegal street drugs?.. actually, some are nearly identical[12:42:41] <shambles07> yep![12:42:47] <shambles07> anything in the opiate class is basically heroin[12:43:02] <shambles07> it all comes from the same plant[12:43:05] <Rose_Aleria> And Ritalin, then.. I've read articles about it being similiar to cocaine[12:43:06] <shambles07> some are stronger, some are weaker[12:43:28] <shambles07> yeah, IV ritalin in blind tests has the EXACT effect of injecting cocaine[12:43:43] *** zproc <zproc!~zproc@laf31-6-82-241-3-109.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[12:43:54] <shambles07> that's another issue that's nationwide is the over-prescribing of ADHD medication[12:44:01] <shambles07> which is caused by diet[12:44:10] <shambles07> the inability to focus[12:44:24] <Rose_Aleria> Then there's also the misdiagnosis and overprescription of antipsychotics... which is even worse than ADHD medication[12:44:26] <shambles07> some people DO have issues that can only be fixed with stimulant medication[12:44:34] <shambles07> yeah, definitely[12:44:39] <shambles07> seen that first hand as well[12:45:06] <Rose_Aleria> It's terrible. Antipsychotics are being prescribed to people who aren't even the slightest bit psychotic. Sometimes even because they need better sleep[12:45:13] <shambles07> exactly[12:45:20] <shambles07> there are better medications for that[12:45:27] <shambles07> even natural ones[12:45:32] <Rose_Aleria> Exactly. Antipsychotics mess with your system far too much[12:45:34] <peetaur2> shambles07: I don't doubt diet is the most major cause, but is that really the only one?[12:45:35] <shambles07> melatonin, st. john's wort[12:46:05] <Lowl3v3l> peetaur2, nope its not[12:46:07] <peetaur2> in some places the number 1 cause is doctors that want more money ;)[12:46:07] <shambles07> our diets have changed drastically[12:46:13] <Lowl3v3l> this is antiscientific bullshit :D[12:46:15] <shambles07> peetaur2: you're right[12:46:16] <Rose_Aleria> peetaur2: Yeah, tell me about it...[12:46:33] <peetaur2> it's unscientific while it lacks any references, but it's not anti-scientific[12:46:53] <Rose_Aleria> (or if said references are not based on solid arguments)[12:47:30] <Lowl3v3l> peetaur2, the cause of such ideas usually is a deep distrust to the scientific process in general :) because if you accept the scientific process there is no room to abandon single fields of science^^[12:47:42] <shambles07> this might not be the best example but it's the first thing that i found regarding the diet/ADHD relationship[12:47:43] <shambles07> http://www.additudemag.com/adhd/article/6552.html[12:47:45] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/VpKJXA] ADHD Diet: What Foods to Eat & Avoid for Improved Symptoms[12:47:52] <Rose_Aleria> Yes, in some places, doctors prescribe very very powerful and harmful medication to people who don't need it, just so that they can get more money. Money at the expense of their pattients[12:47:55] <Rose_Aleria> patients*[12:48:38] <shambles07> that's why the heroin epidemic began[12:48:46] <shambles07> over-prescribing of opiate medication[12:48:50] <Rose_Aleria> Oh yikes...[12:48:54] <Rose_Aleria> That does make sense...[12:48:57] <shambles07> which is why vicodin is now schedule 2 instead of 3[12:48:58] <peetaur2> I accept the scientific process but I do not trust it ;) you can only trust what you can read down to the details, not the results. eg. studies showing milk cannot treat osteparosis ... are they valid? nope, they only test pasteurized skim milk, which is known to be worthless. Read the study not the media BS and you'll see the process breaks down once it's published in many cases, or even in the conclusion of the study itself in the[12:49:00] <peetaur2> case of this skim milk one.[12:49:27] <shambles07> i mean, yeah take each study with a grain of salt[12:49:35] <Rose_Aleria> Exactly.. Behind science, there are studies that "verify" certain things. Thing is, sometimes said studies have very biased verification and sources for their results, or they're just not very well-argumented[12:49:40] <peetaur2> to trust them blindly would be to commit the fallacy of appeal to authority[12:49:43] <Lowl3v3l> Rose_Aleria, usually a different thing is way more important : namely the fact how normative clinical psychiatry still is. There is strong stigma to mental illness, so way to many drugs are perscribed instead of proper therapy.[12:50:04] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[12:50:11] <Rose_Aleria> Lowl3v3l: I agree. Many of the issues that people face that are treated with drugs, can actually probably be solved with some good therapyt[12:50:12] <shambles07> but i've found that my symptoms will vanish completely if i'm making sure i get all the nutrients i need[12:50:13] <Rose_Aleria> therapy*[12:50:17] <Lowl3v3l> peetaur2, singular studies are NOT the scientific process. i chose my words pretty carefully.[12:50:35] <Rose_Aleria> Like, many problems can be solved by finding the root cause and solving said root cause[12:50:41] <Rose_Aleria> Instead of covering the symptoms with drugs[12:50:47] <shambles07> depression is major issue affecting my ability to focus[12:50:52] <Lowl3v3l> Rose_Aleria, this is a gigantic problem and theres even an own field of sociology that is all about the normativity coming from psychology and psychiatrics^^[12:51:08] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[12:51:11] <Lowl3v3l> shambles07, placebo effects are a thing, you know?^^[12:51:14] <shambles07> but i've been working on it[12:51:17] <peetaur2> Lowl3v3l: if the process means those bad studies are considered good and accepted in journals without ridicule, and then make it to the profiteering media organizations like the american heart and stroke foundation eg. saying egg yolks cause heart disease (which I think they have retracted finally), then the process is in fact broken[12:51:43] <shambles07> i know, i know everything there is to know about almost every class of psychotropic substances[12:51:45] <peetaur2> "the process" involves too many subjective decisions, so there are plenty of errors everywhere which those media companies can cherry pick[12:52:01] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-92-25-205-196.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:52:06] <shambles07> i was a drug nerd back in the day and still am to an extent.[12:52:16] <Lowl3v3l> peetaur2, usually media people do not want to present studies matter of factly, they have an agenda to make money. and that only works with big catchy ideas and overstatements.[12:52:20] <shambles07> it's very intersting to me. even though i don't use anymore[12:52:21] <Rose_Aleria> Lowl3v3l: It seems to me like the problem is being held in place and power by money, specifically, most likely, money used for top-notch lawyers, and the power that the drug companies have due to said money[12:52:39] <shambles07> well look at indiana and the ban of vape juice[12:52:50] <shambles07> just so they could shut out small businesses[12:52:57] <shambles07> tobacco industry was losing money[12:53:09] <shambles07> and people were becoming entreprenuers making their own juices[12:53:11] <Lowl3v3l> Rose_Aleria, nope, actually it is way more fundamental than that. Societies construct their own social environment. and that is where stigma happens, you switch cause and symptom there[12:53:49] <Rose_Aleria> Lowl3v3l: So it is the stigma that causes the prescription of drugs where therapy is usually sufficient?[12:53:50] <shambles07> so as of the beginning of this month, there are very strict regulations on the entire vaping industry[12:54:05] <shambles07> at least in indiana[12:54:24] <shambles07> it's also the pharm industry making sure they stay rich[12:54:33] <Lowl3v3l> Rose_Aleria, yeah. they are the fast way out where nobody notices you are ill[12:55:03] <Rose_Aleria> That's horrible.. I guess those people don't realise that the same thing could happen to them in the blink of an eye[12:55:32] <Rose_Aleria> For example with brain damage due to a car accident, etc[12:55:34] <Lowl3v3l> Rose_Aleria, we talk about deep processes here that happen subconsciously.[12:56:31] <Rose_Aleria> Lowl3v3l: So are you saying that there are deep processes in the subconscious of the minds of most of the people in society, that cause them to encourage the drugging of those who have problems?[12:56:45] <Lowl3v3l> Rose_Aleria, social constructivism is an extremely interesting field of study, similar things can be found about crime for example. at least parts of the immanent crime that happens is a direct result of the social construction of the narrative of "the criminal" or "criminal milieus"[12:57:34] <Rose_Aleria> It does sound extremely interesting[12:57:56] <Lowl3v3l> Rose_Aleria, they dont even encourage the drugging directly. They establish a society where being mentally ill, even in therapy and on the way out, is socially so inacceptable that any means necessary to just "work" somehow, i.e. not have symptoms, are acceptable to the people[12:58:25] <Lowl3v3l> and the only fast way to have no symptoms( which is way different from being healthy) is drugs. therapy takes time, sometimes years and years of struggle[12:58:38] <peetaur2> Lowl3v3l: you might be right, but I think the worst thing is that they focus on treatment instead of cause and prevention[12:59:02] <Lowl3v3l> peetaur2, people are lazy. they dont want to change something fundamentally.[12:59:06] <peetaur2> Lowl3v3l: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do3bhS3aSNg[12:59:07] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/rrlBlK] Skidmarks Disease Town Allopath - YouTube[12:59:28] <Rose_Aleria> Lowl3v3l: Even though changing the fundamentals solves way more of the problem without any of the bad effects that drugs cause[12:59:53] <Lowl3v3l> peetaur2, same thing with crime again, it is easier for a group of people to continue as they did for ages and lock up prisoners than to get rid of the causes of crime ( by investing in education and social programs for example)[13:00:18] <shambles07> i'm out! later everyone! nice chatting with you all![13:00:21] <Rose_Aleria> But.. yeah, what you're saying... That's seriously selfish of those people[13:00:25] <Lowl3v3l> Rose_Aleria, yeah but people are lazy. they like the "just keep on doing what we ever did"-mentality. there are reasons for this too though, its not them being malevolent[13:00:31] *** shambles07 <shambles07!~rob@2601:243:c901:cd90::9> has left #manjaro ("Konversation terminated!")[13:01:26] <Rose_Aleria> So then that's a case of stalled progress due to laziness?[13:01:44] <Rose_Aleria> And perhaps unwillingness to take risks or step into unknown territory[13:01:47] <Rose_Aleria> Out of their comfort zone[13:02:25] <Rose_Aleria> These are just guesses, though[13:03:39] <Lowl3v3l> Rose_Aleria, there are multiple processes happening there ,you might want to take a look at the critical theory of adorno and horkheimer, they wrote a lot about why we dont make any real progress^^[13:03:54] <Rose_Aleria> Lowl3v3l: I'll write that down, thank you :)[13:05:31] *** manj-1509-Lxde1 <manj-1509-Lxde1!~manjaro@bae6.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[13:06:36] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[13:16:55] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:22:50] *** Mate-user1512 <Mate-user1512!~manjaro-m@neu67-6-78-225-47-59.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[13:22:55] <Mate-user1512> Hello everyone ![13:23:48] <Mate-user1512> i have installed manjaro mate edition last week, and find out that xfce fits best for my need :/ should I reinstall manjaro xfce or I just use the one I installed from aur ?[13:25:23] <peetaur2> Mate-user1512: most likely all you have to do is install xfce, and optionally remove mate, and possibly switch display managers too[13:26:05] <peetaur2> display managers can let you pick which DE you want to log into, but some don't support all... sddm probably supports all. I don't know what mate uses, but xfce manjaro probably uses lightdm.[13:27:27] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[13:27:53] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has joined #manjaro[13:28:15] <Mate-user1512> yes i can log onto xfce, it's working[13:28:36] <Mate-user1512> but I think I have some.. bugs like xfwm4 --display looks like it using too much ressources[13:28:55] <Mate-user1512> also screen brightness not working properly (cannot be changed from keyboard)[13:29:24] <Mate-user1512> and volume now.. not working no more :/ that's why I thought about a fresh install[13:29:54] <Mate-user1512> and for gaming, maybe reinstall windows before and do a dual boot.. dunno..[13:33:55] *** GreenBob <GreenBob!~manjaro-k@s1v69-1-88-121-84-115.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[13:36:37] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[13:39:01] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@108.61.123.68> has joined #manjaro[13:48:12] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[13:53:08] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has joined #manjaro[13:55:22] *** thenewone <thenewone!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has joined #manjaro[13:55:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v thenewone[14:00:51] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@5.234.201.24> has joined #manjaro[14:00:56] <manjaro-kde5> hi[14:01:17] <manjaro-kde5> I want to insall .deb files in arch[14:01:29] <manjaro-kde5> do you know how can I install it[14:01:51] <manjaro-kde5> ?[14:03:43] <manjaro-kde5> what about the rpm files?[14:04:51] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[14:05:46] *** Cinnamon-813 <Cinnamon-813!~Manjaro-C@host129-255-static.240-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[14:07:00] <Cinnamon-813> Hello?[14:07:42] *** Cinnamon-813 <Cinnamon-813!~Manjaro-C@host129-255-static.240-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:09:07] <manjaro-kde5> hello[14:09:20] <manjaro-kde5> so hopefull to get answer[14:10:51] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@108.61.123.68> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:12:25] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Quit: exit (xchat 2.4.5 или старше))[14:13:37] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[14:15:38] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zidmwkofkyupsbqj> has joined #manjaro[14:16:17] *** D3mian <D3mian!~manjaro-k@206.132.109.74> has joined #manjaro[14:16:29] <peetaur2> manjaro-kde5: what is with people installing .deb files lately? Don't do it...get something from aur. Use yaourt.[14:26:11] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@88.247.118.243> has joined #manjaro[14:26:27] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[14:28:42] *** alexandr1 <alexandr1!~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[14:33:32] <manjaro-kde5> it dont work[14:34:02] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@ad004105.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #manjaro[14:34:39] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@ad004105.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:34:42] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@c-63c7e555.05-264-73746f39.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has joined #manjaro[14:36:42] *** tmsbrdrs <tmsbrdrs!~tmsbrdrs@68-189-191-24.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[14:36:56] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@c-63c7e555.05-264-73746f39.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:39:56] <tme> what would you like to install?[14:40:15] <manjaro-kde5> Atom[14:40:17] <manjaro-kde5> or[14:40:30] <manjaro-kde5> Visual stadio code[14:40:38] <manjaro-kde5> or other things[14:41:33] <tme> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/atom-editor/[14:41:33] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/sA3Y6R] AUR (en) - atom-editor[14:41:34] <tme> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/visual-studio-code/[14:41:34] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/Apqp0V] AUR (en) - visual-studio-code[14:41:41] <tme> what's wrong with these?[14:41:44] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@2001:b07:6451:e2a6:42f0:2fff:fe9f:1a04> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[14:41:57] <tme> you can install both directly from AUR, easy as hell[14:42:24] <manjaro-kde5> how should I install that[14:42:30] *** thenewone <thenewone!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[14:44:28] <tme> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=731014#p731014[14:44:29] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/wpws4u] [SOLVED] How to install from AUR? / Newbie Corner / Arch Linux Forums[14:46:26] <darjusit> someone have steam working on xfce?[14:47:15] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.138.97> has joined #manjaro[14:47:18] <tme> manjaro-kde5: if you think that's too complicated then install yaourt to install any packages from AUR[14:47:53] <tme> so basicly just pacman -S yaourt && yaourt -Syy && yaourt -S atom-editor visual-studio-code[14:48:56] <manjaro-kde5> ( Unsupported package: Potentially dangerous ! )[14:49:02] <manjaro-kde5> it show me this erroe[14:49:11] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[14:49:19] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:49:20] <tme> yeah, I have seen it many times also[14:49:26] <tme> just continue and give it a shot[14:50:06] *** slayslot <slayslot!~slayslot@171.50.180.162> has joined #manjaro[14:51:00] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[14:51:08] <manjaro-kde5> why octopi dont't have that package[14:51:13] <manjaro-kde5> or other[14:51:31] <manjaro-kde5> ?[14:52:19] <peetaur2> octopi should have it if you have installed either yaourt or pacaur and have enabled usage of whichever you installed inside octopi[14:52:43] <manjaro-kde5> I install yaourt[14:52:44] <peetaur2> in my octopi, there's a little green alien button that enables pacaur[14:53:50] *** manj-1509-Lxde1 <manj-1509-Lxde1!~manjaro@bae6.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:54:35] <manjaro-kde5> I have that[14:54:51] <manjaro-kde5> but when I press it there is no diffrent[14:56:12] <manjaro-kde5> do you know why my laptop touchpad don't work after liding?[14:56:13] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[14:57:05] <peetaur2> after sleep? 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laptop[17:32:28] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: is start-on-lan turned on in the bios?[17:32:44] <manjaro-kde5> no[17:33:17] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: how much ram and now big is your swap?[17:33:28] <mtn> now/how[17:34:21] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@5ED1F36D.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[17:35:19] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has left #manjaro[17:37:40] <manjaro-kde5> 0[17:37:55] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: ?[17:38:03] <manjaro-kde5> No Byte[17:38:07] * mtn can write in macros, too[17:38:15] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: do you speak english?[17:38:23] <manjaro-kde5> yes[17:38:29] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: how much ram and now big is your swap?[17:39:10] <manjaro-kde5> 800Mib ram , 0 Swap[17:39:42] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: well, hibernate will not work if swap is not as large as ram. so....[17:40:02] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:40:16] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@5ED1F36D.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:40:43] <manjaro-kde5> what should I do[17:40:44] <manjaro-kde5> ?[17:41:04] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: make a swap or don't use hibernate.[17:42:38] <manjaro-kde5> ohhhhhhhhhh[17:42:48] <manjaro-kde5> I get your mean now[17:43:11] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has joined #manjaro[17:43:13] <manjaro-kde5> 7.7 Gib ram and swap[17:43:28] <LyriCa> anyone knows of a good vnc server??[17:44:05] <manjaro-kde5> 800Mib ram , 0 Swap .this are usage of them[17:44:26] <manjaro-kde5> What about now?[17:45:11] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: if I were you, I would check to see about wake on lan[17:45:27] <manjaro-kde5> What 's that?[17:45:45] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: is start-on-lan turned on in the bios?[17:45:57] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: you said it was not on, but I know you did not actually look[17:46:29] <manjaro-kde5> how should I do that?It that can replace on hibernate[17:47:30] <manjaro-kde5> ?[17:47:43] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: I don't understand what you are asking. do you know what the bios is?[17:48:12] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@93.37.188.159> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:48:20] <manjaro-kde5> yes Plaese forgive me for my bad english knowledege[17:48:42] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: do you know how to open your bios?[17:48:49] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~dedword@unaffiliated/eddie/x-2286721> has quit IRC (Quit: the mac is asleep)[17:49:25] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-92-25-205-196.as13285.net> has joined #manjaro[17:49:32] <manjaro-kde5> yes by restarting and pressing del[17:50:03] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: open your bios. check to see if wake-on-lan is on. turn it off if it is on[17:50:57] *** Naologramme <Naologramme!~NaoTix@176.139.185.179> has joined #manjaro[17:51:40] <manjaro-kde5> where is that[17:51:53] <manjaro-kde5> I mean in which part[17:51:54] <manjaro-kde5> ?[17:52:08] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: every bios is different. I can't see your computer screen[17:52:59] *** NaoTix <NaoTix!~tix@176.139.185.179> has joined #manjaro[17:53:20] *** Naologramme <Naologramme!~NaoTix@176.139.185.179> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:53:55] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@81.red-176-83-221.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:54:09] <manjaro-kde5> but do you sometime hibernate work but not at all[17:54:26] *** mac__ <mac__!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[17:54:26] <manjaro-kde5> okay I'm going to check that[17:54:31] *** NaoTix <NaoTix!~tix@176.139.185.179> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:54:48] *** NaoTix <NaoTix!~NaoTix@176.139.185.179> has joined #manjaro[17:55:34] *** elcaven <elcaven!~manjaro-k@213.181.39.195> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:55:43] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.187.158.135> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:58:47] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~Strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[17:58:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[18:00:44] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-92-25-205-196.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:02:24] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.187.158.135> has joined #manjaro[18:02:32] <manjaro-kde5> hi again[18:02:36] <manjaro-kde5> mtn[18:03:02] <manjaro-kde5> you said check the the wake on lid or wake on on lan[18:03:04] <manjaro-kde5> ?[18:03:19] <mtn> wake on lan, in the bios[18:03:44] <manjaro-kde5> but there is no choice in there[18:03:46] <manjaro-kde5> ?[18:03:51] <manjaro-kde5> what should I do[18:03:54] <manjaro-kde5> ?[18:04:19] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: start with reading the arch wiki section on hibernation. maybe you will find some clues[18:04:49] *** Oldiesmann <Oldiesmann!~Oldiesman@simplemachines/developer/Oldiesmann> has quit IRC (Quit: No, no, no. Go past this. Pass this part. In fact, never play this again.)[18:05:48] <manjaro-kde5> thansk[18:05:51] <manjaro-kde5> thanks[18:06:19] <manjaro-kde5> did you know some software like max+pluse[18:06:22] <manjaro-kde5> plus[18:06:31] <manjaro-kde5> for manjaro[18:07:26] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-176-198-144-53.hsi05.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #manjaro[18:08:02] <mtn> manjaro-kde5: no idea what that is[18:08:40] *** flawless <flawless!~flawless@hst-30-177.splius.lt> has joined #manjaro[18:19:33] *** Troupal <Troupal!~manjaro-k@AToulouse-652-1-172-137.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:24:47] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[18:24:54] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@92.186.119.8> has joined #manjaro[18:25:03] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:25:09] *** manjaroi3 is now known as ohme[18:25:17] *** flawless <flawless!~flawless@hst-30-177.splius.lt> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:25:22] *** ohme <ohme!~manjaro-i@92.186.119.8> has left #manjaro[18:26:59] *** AleSiS <AleSiS!~AleSiS@user-5-173-55-189.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[18:27:12] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.80> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:29:33] *** thenewone <thenewone!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has joined #manjaro[18:29:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v thenewone[18:32:20] <manjaro-kde5> KDEInit could not launch 'natron':[18:32:21] <manjaro-kde5> Could not open library 'libkdeinit5_natron'.[18:32:23] <manjaro-kde5> Cannot load library libkdeinit5_natron: (libkdeinit5_natron: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)[18:32:23] *** flawless <flawless!~flawless@hst-30-177.splius.lt> has joined #manjaro[18:32:29] <manjaro-kde5> what should I do?[18:34:11] *** Wildfyr <Wildfyr!~tanay@unaffiliated/spmd12345> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:37:30] *** mac__ <mac__!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:37:39] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~flipper@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has joined #manjaro[18:37:54] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-176-198-144-53.hsi05.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:39:15] <manjaro-kde5> please[18:39:23] <manjaro-kde5> I need help[18:40:22] *** pancutan <pancutan!~s@190.113.128.142> has joined #manjaro[18:40:28] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@lia60-2-88-189-96-131.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[18:41:16] <pancutan> Hi guys[18:41:32] <pancutan> Pacman is not showing new updates since a week[18:41:58] <pancutan> Anybody of us have the same behavior?[18:42:28] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@2.187.146.227> has joined #manjaro[18:43:27] *** lixa <lixa!~lixa@135-23-142-134.cpe.pppoe.ca> has joined #manjaro[18:43:27] *** lixa <lixa!~lixa@135-23-142-134.cpe.pppoe.ca> has quit IRC (Changing host)[18:43:27] *** lixa <lixa!~lixa@unaffiliated/lixa> has joined #manjaro[18:43:35] *** berm <berm!~bermdinge@37.48.109.246> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[18:43:55] *** mac__ <mac__!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[18:44:22] <Strit_Laptop> pancutan, last update to stable was on the 25th of June.[18:44:33] *** berm <berm!~bermdinge@37.48.109.246> has joined #manjaro[18:44:33] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2.187.158.135> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:45:18] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@lia60-2-88-189-96-131.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[18:46:34] <pancutan> Strit_Laptop: that's means that no need to new fresh updates[18:46:39] <pancutan> ?[18:47:56] <Strit_Laptop> That means that the update manager has not registered any updates since. So there are no updates within the last week.[18:52:36] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has joined #manjaro[18:53:52] <pancutan> Strit_Laptop: thanks buddy.[18:54:01] *** mantra__ <mantra__!~no@14-201-221-216.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: mantra__)[18:54:28] <pancutan> I was a quite worry, because after -Syyu there was no new bananas :D[18:54:59] <Strit_Laptop> Yep. If you want more frequent bananas, switch to either testing or unstable branch. :)[18:55:52] *** GenZai <GenZai!~emil@mnt60-1-88-186-66-2.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:57:40] *** GenZai <GenZai!~emil@mnt60-1-88-186-66-2.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[18:58:02] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@116.108.162.4> has joined #manjaro[19:01:11] *** mac__ <mac__!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:01:21] <verrlara> or Arch[19:01:42] <verrlara> Why does everyone do -Syyu? Its -Syu[19:01:55] * Strit_Laptop feels like a nerd. Just ordered Warcraft - The Beginning on a Limited Edition Steelbook (Bluray/DVD).[19:02:17] *** Manj-811-Xfce2 <Manj-811-Xfce2!~raphook@AOrleans-652-1-129-180.w90-19.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[19:02:39] *** Manj-811-Xfce2 <Manj-811-Xfce2!~raphook@AOrleans-652-1-129-180.w90-19.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:04:19] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has joined #manjaro[19:04:24] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-92-25-205-196.as13285.net> has joined #manjaro[19:04:55] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@116.108.162.4> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:05:24] <lixa> crafting that war[19:05:30] <lixa> like a boss[19:06:13] <Strit_Laptop> Yep. I always enjoyed the games and I think the movie is awesome. So it deserves my moneys so they can do another one.[19:06:33] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@2.187.146.227> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:06:57] <marco-parillo> verrlara: I see it all the time also. Passing two --refresh or -y flags will force a refresh of all package databases, even if they appear to be up-to-date. https://www.archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.8.html[19:06:59] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/ybwab6] pacman(8)[19:07:01] <lixa> great fights in the movie. Plus they used blender in a scene : ) made me happy[19:07:02] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[19:07:31] <verrlara> Alrighty[19:07:34] <verrlara> Learn something new[19:07:36] <verrlara> :D[19:07:49] <marco-parillo> And just today, I saw -uu for the first time. Pass this option twice to enable package downgrades; in this case, pacman will select sync packages whose versions do not match with the local versions. This can be useful when the user switches from a testing repository to a stable one.[19:08:23] *** asraelite <asraelite!~asraelite@x590f6ba8.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[19:09:51] *** xspeed <xspeed!~xsp@89.222.181.124> has joined #manjaro[19:12:11] *** MiVo <MiVo!MiVo@2600:3c01:e001:3920::2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[19:13:51] <verrlara> So -Syyuu? wow[19:14:36] <asraelite> I just ran -Syu on a fresh install on an 8GB usb and without installing anything extra other than Chrome my storage space has gone down to 500MB. What's taking up all the space and how do I delete it?[19:17:22] <Strit_Laptop> asraelite, proably pacman cache.[19:17:40] <asraelite> How do I clear that?[19:17:44] <Strit_Laptop> pacman keeps all packages in cache, so you have a change to downgrade if you need too.[19:18:04] <Strit_Laptop> asraelite, you can clear packages, except the newest with "sudo pacman -Sc"[19:18:59] <asraelite> That didn't clear anything, so if I want to keep the newest versions I need them all in the cache?[19:19:38] <Strit_Laptop> asraelite, no, it's just the cache. You don't need to keep them. But if you delete them you can't downgrade if the next update fucks up.[19:19:53] <Strit_Laptop> How big is your root partition?[19:20:02] *** manmi <manmi!~manmi@p4FE17316.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[19:20:05] <asraelite> Oh, ok. Is there a pacman command to do that or will I just manually delete them?[19:20:24] <Strit_Laptop> I believe "sudo pacman -Scc" will clean them all out.[19:20:31] <Strit_Laptop> Not certain on that one though.[19:20:48] *** mac1202 <mac1202!~mac@95.211.205.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[19:20:52] <Strit_Laptop> I always keep at least the latest working packages.[19:21:09] <lixa> package folder is /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ That's basically what gets cleared[19:21:28] <NaoTix> asraelite: first bad idea: installing Chrome ... if you're on Linux instal Firefox or Chromium ...[19:21:29] <Strit_Laptop> yep[19:21:37] <NaoTix> (but ok it's not the answer to your question)[19:21:53] <asraelite> partition is 7.44GB[19:22:05] <asraelite> I need Chrome because I'm using it for web development[19:22:17] <asraelite> Oh yeah, Chromium is what I meant, I just call it Chrome[19:22:20] <Strit_Laptop> 7.44 is quite small. WHy did you make it so small?[19:22:28] <NaoTix> ;)[19:22:52] *** cspack <cspack!~cspack@162.216.46.193> has joined #manjaro[19:22:54] <asraelite> 8GB is the largest USB I had and I just needed something to do web development on, but I thought I'd get more than 500MB to work with[19:23:22] <Lowl3v3l_> asraelite, then get a different distro. manjaro is the wrong choice for minimal installations[19:23:23] <Strit_Laptop> You installed Manjaro on a USB stick?[19:23:42] <asraelite> Yeah, what distro would you recommend?[19:23:44] <Lowl3v3l_> asraelite, and besides if it is not a live image it will most likely kill your stick soon[19:23:51] <Strit_Laptop> Manjaro takes around 6.5 GB on a fresh install.[19:24:18] <asraelite> If I use a different file system will it do less damage to the stick?[19:24:42] *** thenewone <thenewone!~thenewone@unaffiliated/thenewone> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[19:24:47] <Strit_Laptop> nope[19:24:57] <Lowl3v3l_> asraelite, essentially... nope. not without major tweaking( no swapping, tmp mounted to ram...)[19:25:26] <Lowl3v3l_> if you want a live stick take a live image. then you are usually fine, no writing happens there[19:25:37] <asraelite> Ah, ok. I also have an external SSD, would that be ok?[19:25:58] <Lowl3v3l_> yeah. ssd's can be written way more often[19:26:20] <asraelite> Ok, I'll use that then[19:26:57] <asraelite> Thanks for the help.[19:27:33] <verrlara> Strit_Laptop: How is your laptop version of manjaro?[19:27:53] <verrlara> Strit_Laptop: Are people on the laptop version able to make themselves a bspwm-manjaro setup?[19:27:54] <Strit_Laptop> verrlara, laptop version?[19:28:06] <verrlara> Strit_Laptop: The iso[19:28:20] <verrlara> Strit_Laptop: I thought you had your own iso... I might be wrong?[19:28:29] <Strit_Laptop> The Minimal ISO of Manjaro Strit is the same as the regular, just without all the bloat apps.[19:28:43] <Strit_Laptop> So DE, theme etc are still there.[19:29:50] *** flawless <flawless!~flawless@hst-30-177.splius.lt> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:30:00] *** asraelite <asraelite!~asraelite@x590f6ba8.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:30:08] *** fradd <fradd!~fradd@unaffiliated/fradd> has joined #manjaro[19:30:41] *** lixa <lixa!~lixa@unaffiliated/lixa> has left #manjaro[19:31:24] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[19:31:39] *** Jay193 <Jay193!6020005d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.96.32.0.93> has joined #manjaro[19:32:17] <verrlara> Strit_Laptop: Perfect. So I can remove the DE, and go flying WM only off that?[19:36:47] *** fradd <fradd!~fradd@unaffiliated/fradd> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:36:54] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@2.187.146.227> has joined #manjaro[19:37:57] <Strit_Laptop> verrlara, probably, if that's what you want. :)[19:38:21] *** Jay193 <Jay193!6020005d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.96.32.0.93> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[19:41:20] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:43:11] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[19:43:33] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:43:36] *** corpsegrinder <corpsegrinder!~corpsegri@unaffiliated/corpsegrinder> has joined #manjaro[19:46:47] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:48:57] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@2.187.146.227> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[19:49:41] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:49:51] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@2.187.146.227> has joined #manjaro[19:54:14] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[19:56:30] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:56:30] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[20:01:56] *** user123irc <user123irc!~quassel@78-62-111-164.static.zebra.lt> has joined #manjaro[20:02:29] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[20:02:53] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:03:20] *** Alecs <Alecs!~man@84.123.72.197.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #manjaro[20:03:28] *** Alecs <Alecs!~man@84.123.72.197.dyn.user.ono.com> has left #manjaro[20:03:50] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@88.41.105.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has joined #manjaro[20:03:59] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@88.41.105.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:04:39] *** philo <philo!~philo@73.93.152.127> has joined #manjaro[20:05:26] *** eizua <eizua!~eizua@122.2.98.233> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:05:41] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-92-25-205-196.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:06:20] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@2.187.146.227> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:10:45] <Strit_Laptop> Nice. Just plugged in my TV as second monitor. Took really no effort to get it to play video on that.[20:10:45] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:187:c200:1b0c:d6c6:4926:dc0c> has joined #manjaro[20:11:48] <verrlara> wow. Do you think the reverse is possible? Plug an hdmi into a laptop for lazy access to ones deskotp?[20:12:04] *** philo <philo!~philo@73.93.152.127> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[20:12:13] <Strit_Laptop> The hdmi ports in laptops are not inputs. But outputs.[20:12:21] <verrlara> Poop[20:12:23] <verrlara> :<[20:12:34] *** kc9iid <kc9iid!~mark@c-68-44-47-116.hsd1.in.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[20:12:50] * verrlara diabolical plan for using a deskop while laying in bed has failed.[20:13:19] <Strit_Laptop> verrlara, well, you can always install teamviewer or VNC.[20:13:39] *** xircon1 <xircon1!~xircon@2a02:c7f:5e1b:5200:4a51:b7ff:febb:7a33> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[20:13:41] <verrlara> Might be a bit much for lazyness and bandswidth would suffer.[20:13:53] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@46.197.149.93> has joined #manjaro[20:13:56] <verrlara> I dunno if my chromebook can handle teamviewer either.[20:15:04] *** marco-parillo <marco-parillo!d8cb060b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.203.6.11> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[20:15:12] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-154-92.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[20:15:26] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[20:15:35] *** MiVo <MiVo!MiVo@2600:3c01:e001:3920::2> has joined #manjaro[20:15:42] * Strit_Laptop is watching Penny Dreadfil - S03E08.[20:15:50] <Strit_Laptop> Dreadful*[20:18:49] * verrlara is currently listening to: Damh the Bard - John Barleycorn (album: The Hills They Are Hollow)[20:19:40] *** Na3iL <Na3iL!~Na3iL@ubuntu/member/na3il> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[20:21:50] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oopofbohsqevijvz> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[20:26:08] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@93.170.185.157> has joined #manjaro[20:26:40] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:27:30] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-154-92.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[20:28:06] *** tulliana <tulliana!~demiray@178.233.235.6> has joined #manjaro[20:28:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tulliana[20:28:40] *** Randomer666 <Randomer666!~Randomer6@185.35.36.100> has joined #manjaro[20:29:15] *** Randomer666 <Randomer666!~Randomer6@185.35.36.100> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:30:45] <bugzbunny> Chrome is bad? O really :|[20:30:50] <anonkun> hi[20:30:58] <anonkun> is anyone having any trouble with the kernels?[20:30:58] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[20:31:09] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:31:28] <Lowl3v3l_> anonkun, you shouldn't use the RC-kernels^^[20:31:50] <anonkun> I'm having an issue with 46 as well[20:31:56] <anonkun> it worked fine so far[20:32:08] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[20:32:19] <Lowl3v3l_> 4.6 is released, i suppose it is somewhat unlikely that the upstream kernel is buggy[20:32:28] <anonkun> ah nvm I figured out the issue[20:32:35] <anonkun> I manually installed the packages and missed a vital package[20:32:39] <Strit_Laptop> only kernel trouble I have is with te odroid-c2 kernel.[20:32:46] <anonkun> r8168 for linux :D[20:32:51] <anonkun> The manjaro app is installing it[20:33:22] <Mate-user1512> hey guys do you[20:33:46] <Mate-user1512> sorry pressed enter before the end lol[20:33:50] <anonkun> lol[20:34:00] *** Someone4562 <Someone4562!52ee5844@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.82.238.88.68> has joined #manjaro[20:34:18] <Someone4562> Hi there could anyone tell me how to run windows game on manjaro ?[20:34:36] <Someone4562> Is playoninux the best option ?[20:34:41] <Mate-user1512> I have installed manjaro mate but I feel better with XFCE right now.. the only thing is I have some bugs and I think it's because I have installed XFCE on mate edition.. should I reinstall everything ?[20:34:45] *** armandg <armandg!4df79503@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.247.149.3> has joined #manjaro[20:34:56] <Strit_Laptop> Someone4562, depends on the game.[20:34:59] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p5799038A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[20:35:01] <anonkun> Mate-user1512: ideally yea[20:35:03] <Someone4562> Dofus , league of legend[20:35:27] <anonkun> Mate-user1512: but if you are curious and a power user, you should try tracking down what is causing the issue/issues[20:35:37] <anonkun> let me guess, some parts of the theme are broken?[20:36:14] <Mate-user1512> anonkun, no it is more about screen brightness from keyboard, volume that doesn't work no more[20:36:36] <Mate-user1512> and sometimes xfwm4 --display is using a lot of power consumption[20:36:37] <anonkun> then you may just need to bind the keys in xfce[20:36:48] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[20:37:24] <Mate-user1512> anonkun, they are binded, but brightness doesn't change :/ the notification appears when I try to, but it change nothing[20:38:14] <anonkun> hmm, try booting with the xfce edition ISO[20:38:24] <anonkun> it would just be simpler, assuming you just set up your mate recently[20:39:36] <Mate-user1512> anonkun, ok thanks, I try :D[20:39:51] <armandg> hey guys, could I get some hints on what services I should check for errors when troubleshooting wireless network connection?[20:39:55] *** Mate-user1512 <Mate-user1512!~manjaro-m@neu67-6-78-225-47-59.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:40:09] <Someone4562> Does anybody know if playonlinux is reliable ?[20:40:24] <NanoSector> i never use its installers[20:40:28] <NanoSector> apart from that it's quite decent[20:40:35] <Someone4562> Playing league on Manjora is hard to set up ?[20:40:58] <NanoSector> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/League_of_Legends[20:40:59] -FatalException- [https://is.gd/YOR8f9] League of Legends - ArchWiki[20:41:07] <Someone4562> Thx[20:44:50] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[20:45:19] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-45761563.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #manjaro[20:45:53] <Someone4562> Id like to install Manjora from my usb stick wich im curently running on to my harddrive replacing windows, that possible ?[20:46:52] <NanoSector> if you're using the Live ISO, you can[20:48:30] *** steepleone 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I'm having an issue with Manjaro i3, would anyone be able to help me?[23:52:06] *** scott_00_ <scott_00_!~scott@CPE-121-223-6-32.lnse2.cha.bigpond.net.au> has joined #manjaro[23:52:13] *** robin0800 <robin0800!~robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:53:19] *** xircon1 <xircon1!~xircon@2a02:c7f:5e1b:5200:4a51:b7ff:febb:7a33> has quit IRC (Quit: Communi 3.5.0 - http://communi.github.com)[23:53:37] <verrlara> Lots. Ask![23:53:44] <verrlara> !ask[23:53:47] <verrlara> :D[23:54:03] <SuccessPastaTime> Okay, thank you. Well, basically, the problem is i3 won't respond to any of my keyboard commands.[23:54:14] <SuccessPastaTime> I have it installed in VirtualBox.[23:54:38] <SuccessPastaTime> Well, I'm actually in the live environment at the moment, but, I've reinstalled about 3 times, and I still have the issue.[23:54:41] <verrlara> Hmm that is a pickle. Do you know what key strokes are in your config file?[23:54:58] <verrlara> Also there is a #i3 channel that is very active too. Just putting that out there.[23:55:00] <SuccessPastaTime> I've tried deleting the config file that is included in Manjaro, but it doesn't ask me to create a new one like a stock i3 install would.[23:55:30] <verrlara> Well there is your issue. no config means it doesn't know any commands I would think.[23:55:37] <SuccessPastaTime> I do, I'm told to use the mod key, and I don't know which of the two Manjaro uses, but I've tried both and nothing happens[23:55:47] <verrlara> hmm[23:55:47] <SuccessPastaTime> It's either alt or super.[23:55:59] <verrlara> Mod-return does not spit out a terminal?[23:55:59] <SuccessPastaTime> I've actually installed i3 on a stock Arch install with no issues.[23:56:13] <SuccessPastaTime> Well, even with the config, it still doesn't work.[23:56:23] <SuccessPastaTime> Nope, no terminal from mod-return.[23:56:25] <verrlara> Thats weird. Might be a virtualbox issue.[23:56:42] <SuccessPastaTime> The only way i got to the chatroom was by clicking the link on the Manjaro welcome screen.[23:56:58] <verrlara> #i3 might be able to help you. Do you know how to change channels?[23:57:08] <SuccessPastaTime> Yeah, I think it might be then, I'm look at keyboard settings, and haven't had much luck though.[23:57:16] <SuccessPastaTime> Yeah, I do, thank you, I will head over there then.[23:57:18] <verrlara> You go /join #i3[23:57:20] <SuccessPastaTime> I appricate the help.[23:57:24] <verrlara> No problem :D[23:57:27] <SuccessPastaTime> :D[23:57:37] <verrlara> Also[23:57:40] <verrlara> Stay in here too[23:57:44] <SuccessPastaTime> I'll let you know if I solve it.[23:57:50] <verrlara> have both windows open. :P[23:57:55] <SuccessPastaTime> Errr... they help me solve it.[23:57:57] <SuccessPastaTime> Will do.[23:58:23] <verrlara> ^_^[23:58:25] <verrlara> Good luck[23:58:50] <SuccessPastaTime> Thanky.